WEBVTT - The Pushkin Prize for Egregiously Deceptive Self-Promotion

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin, and the Emmy goes too, and the Oscar goes

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<v Speaker 1>to and the People's Choice Award goes.

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<v Speaker 2>To Thank you to the Academy for this incredible recognition.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so honored. I'm so honored.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody want to know what I would do if I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't win.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess we'll never know.

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<v Speaker 6>Everybody gets a prize in modern America, actors, writers, musicians.

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<v Speaker 6>But you know who doesn't get a fancy prize the

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<v Speaker 6>hard working administrators of America's elite colleges and universities. For years,

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<v Speaker 6>I've observed this oversight with what can only be described

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<v Speaker 6>as dismay, until I decided, damn it, if this country

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<v Speaker 6>wasn't gonna honor the beleaguered giants of the Ivy League,

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<v Speaker 6>then I would. My name is Malcolm Blackwell. You're listening

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<v Speaker 6>to Revisionist History, my podcast about things overlooked and misunderstood.

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<v Speaker 6>In this episode, we are pleased to inaugurate the first

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<v Speaker 6>annual Revisionist History Higher Education Award in honor of our

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<v Speaker 6>company's namesake. We're gonna call them the Pushkin Prizes. Folks.

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<v Speaker 6>These prizes are super prestigious. You can't see this because

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<v Speaker 6>this is audio but we have little gold statuettes of

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<v Speaker 6>Alexander Pushkin himself. You're gonna walk into the lobby of

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<v Speaker 6>your favorite eighteenth century ivy colored marble granite University Administration

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<v Speaker 6>building and they are in a glass case. Below the

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<v Speaker 6>tiffany chandelier is going to be a Pushkin. That is,

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<v Speaker 6>if you're lucky. I promise that over the next few years,

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<v Speaker 6>the giants of American academia will be graced with a

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<v Speaker 6>Pushkin statuette in recognition of one stupendous achievement or another.

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<v Speaker 6>And in this episode, we begin our awards program with

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<v Speaker 6>the mac Daddy of Pushkin Prizes, the George Santos Memorial

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<v Speaker 6>Pushkin Prize for egregiously Deceptive Self Promotion.

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<v Speaker 7>My parents came to this country in search of the

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<v Speaker 7>American dream. Today I live that American dream, only in

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<v Speaker 7>this country, only in this country. And the little boy

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<v Speaker 7>born in a basement apartment in Jackson Heights, Queens in

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<v Speaker 7>New York City, become a United States Congressman at thirty four.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a story of survival, of tenacity, of grit, as

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<v Speaker 7>we like to call it.

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<v Speaker 6>Actually, it's not a story of survival, tenacity and grit

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<v Speaker 6>as we like to call it the story of George Santos,

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<v Speaker 6>Congressman from Long Island, is the story of someone who

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<v Speaker 6>made up basically everything on his resume. And it is

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<v Speaker 6>that shamelessness that we seek to reward with the first

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<v Speaker 6>of the coveted Pushkin Prizes.

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<v Speaker 7>Good morning, Chabatsalom too, everybody. Thank you for being here,

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you for having me. We're no stranger to persecution.

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<v Speaker 7>My grandfather fleeing Ukraine in nineteen twenties to Belgium.

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<v Speaker 6>Turns out he's not Jewish. Santos said his mom was

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<v Speaker 6>a nine to eleven survivor. Turns out she wasn't even

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<v Speaker 6>in New York City during nine to eleven. He said

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<v Speaker 6>he worked at Goldman Sachs. It turns out he never

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<v Speaker 6>set foot in Golden Sex. And then there was this

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<v Speaker 6>tallest of tall tales, which I love so much.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, you know what's funny, George. You go right to

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<v Speaker 4>the heart here of me. Sid and Bernie.

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<v Speaker 6>This is Santos on a local New York radio show

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<v Speaker 6>Sid and Friends in the Morning during his first congressional

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<v Speaker 6>run in twenty twenty, and the host Sid Rosenberg starts

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<v Speaker 6>talking about sports.

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<v Speaker 4>At the very end of your biography, It says in

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<v Speaker 4>his spare time, George Anthony enjoys volleyball and tennis.

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<v Speaker 6>Rosenberg says, that's funny because both his daughter and his

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<v Speaker 6>co host daughter are avid volleyball and tennis players. Then

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<v Speaker 6>Santo's response, you know, it's funny.

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<v Speaker 8>I actually went to school on a volleyball scholarship.

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<v Speaker 6>I did what I did.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, when I was in Beruke, we were the number

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<v Speaker 8>one volleyball.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you graduate from barok? Did you graduate from them?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>So did I did?

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<v Speaker 8>I did so?

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<v Speaker 4>Did I?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh? Very cool cho great institutions. But it's funny that

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<v Speaker 8>we went to play against Harvard Yale and we play them.

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<v Speaker 8>We were champions across the entire Northeast corridor. Every school

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<v Speaker 8>that came up against us, they were shaking at the time.

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<v Speaker 8>And it's funny. I was the smallest guy and I'm

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<v Speaker 8>six two. We had on our block, on our on

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<v Speaker 8>our on our block alone, there were six seven sixty eight.

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<v Speaker 8>These guys weren't jumping, they were just stretching their arms up.

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<v Speaker 8>We were, we were and all of us could have

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<v Speaker 8>been playing basketball, but we chose volleyball because it was easier.

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<v Speaker 8>So it was a great time I look, I sacrificed

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<v Speaker 8>both my knees and got very nice knee replacements. Knee

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<v Speaker 8>replacements from Assa's playing volleyball. That's how serious I took

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<v Speaker 8>the game.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's how serious you're taking politics as well. Remember

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<v Speaker 4>this name, folks, George Santos out in the third district.

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<v Speaker 6>This is, to my mind, the gold standard George Santos fabrication,

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<v Speaker 6>a wedding cake of prevarication. The Washington posted a breakdown

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<v Speaker 6>to the tape, and here's what they found. Let's start

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<v Speaker 6>with the smallest lies and work backwards. Brooke didn't beat

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<v Speaker 6>Yale at volleyball because Yale doesn't have a varsity volleyball team.

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<v Speaker 6>Santels later said he played the position of striker. Volleyball

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<v Speaker 6>teams don't have strikers. That suck. Nor did Santos have

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<v Speaker 6>a volleyball scholarship at Baruque because Baruq doesn't give out

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<v Speaker 6>volleyball scholarships, and at six', two he would not have

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<v Speaker 6>been the shortest player in the team even if he

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<v Speaker 6>had been on the, team but he. Wasn't he never

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<v Speaker 6>played volleyball At, baruk maybe because he never Attended baruk at,

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<v Speaker 6>all which means his needs are perfectly, fine unless that,

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<v Speaker 6>is he blew them out playing some other imaginary. Sport

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<v Speaker 6>that's seven lies in a. Row and if you listen

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<v Speaker 6>to the, tape it's clear that he made up the

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<v Speaker 6>whole string on the. Fly the man is an. Icon

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<v Speaker 6>and with our First Pushkin, prize we ask What american

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<v Speaker 6>college came closest in the past year to this lofty.

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<v Speaker 6>Standard believe, me they were many, nominees all of them.

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<v Speaker 6>Worthy envelope, please and the winner Is Columbia.

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<v Speaker 2>University the big beginning when you heard when you, SAID

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<v Speaker 2>i want to Investigate columbia's rise to number, two did,

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<v Speaker 2>you in the back of your mind think there might

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<v Speaker 2>be something questionable going?

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<v Speaker 5>On, yes not even, no not in the back of my.

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<v Speaker 5>Mind at the front of my, mind.

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<v Speaker 6>You're listening to a math professor At columbia Named Michael,

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<v Speaker 6>thaddius fifties long. HAIR i went to see him in

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<v Speaker 6>his office on The columbia, campus full of books and,

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<v Speaker 6>strange captivating jottings on the. Wall my father was a.

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<v Speaker 6>MATHEMATICIAN i have great affection for the. Species if you Google,

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<v Speaker 6>thadius you'll find papers that begin with things like we

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<v Speaker 6>discuss sympletic cutting For hamiltonian actions of Non abelian compact.

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<v Speaker 6>Groups by using a degeneration based on The vinburg, monoid

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<v Speaker 6>we give in good cases a global quotient description of

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<v Speaker 6>a surgery construction introduced By woodward n mind, ranking and

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<v Speaker 6>show it can be interpreted in algebra geometric. TERMS i

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<v Speaker 6>have no idea what that, means But Michael thaddius, does

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<v Speaker 6>which is to say that when it comes to numbers

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<v Speaker 6>and statistics and, things he's someone to take very. Seriously

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<v Speaker 6>so one, day not long, ago he hears something that

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't seem.

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<v Speaker 5>Right SO i saw That columbia had risen to number.

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<v Speaker 5>TWO i think in, fact this was even mentioned by

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<v Speaker 5>our own dean at a faculty. MEETING i think that's

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<v Speaker 5>HOW i found out about.

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<v Speaker 6>It the dean announces to, EVERYONE i have amazing. News

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<v Speaker 6>columbia has just risen to number two in THE Us

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<v Speaker 6>News college, rankings just a hair Behind. Princeton everyone basks

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<v Speaker 6>in the glow of the school's extraordinary, achievement because you

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<v Speaker 6>know what a HIGH Us news rankings, means more alumni,

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<v Speaker 6>dollars more, prestige more, applications more excitement and desire from

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<v Speaker 6>neurotic upper middle class suburban. Parents for anyone With Ivy league,

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<v Speaker 6>dreams it's the holy. GRAIL i, mean if you have

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<v Speaker 6>a kid in high school and your kids, Said, MOM

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<v Speaker 6>i just got Into, columbia you will be over the.

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<v Speaker 6>Moon and why would you be over the Moon Because

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<v Speaker 6>columbia is number two in THE Us news. Rankings so

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<v Speaker 6>The dean makes for big, announcement But Michael, thaddeus the numbers,

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<v Speaker 6>guy isn't buying.

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<v Speaker 5>It and that just piqued my. Curiosity two is pretty high.

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<v Speaker 5>Ranking you, Know in, particular we were tied With harvard AND,

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<v Speaker 5>mit which are institutions that objectively have certain big advantages over.

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<v Speaker 5>Us they have much larger, endowments they have much more

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<v Speaker 5>space than we. Do AND i just you, Know i've

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<v Speaker 5>also over the, Years i've taken a greater and, greater

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<v Speaker 5>perhaps almost obsessive interest in facts and figures about the.

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<v Speaker 5>UNIVERSITY i look at a lot of websites where the numbers,

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<v Speaker 5>appear AND i just, wondered how Could columbia have performed

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<v Speaker 5>so well on this ranking as to be tied with

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<v Speaker 5>institutions that have these objective advantages over. It how do

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<v Speaker 5>the numbers break?

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<v Speaker 6>Down columbia started in these rankings at, eighteenth then began a,

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<v Speaker 6>steady dramatic climb Past, Cornell, washington Uw, Rice, Vanderbilt, Brown, Dartmouth, Northwestern, Duke,

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<v Speaker 6>Caltech Penn Johns, Hopkins university Of, Chicago, Yale. Stanford in

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<v Speaker 6>the past five years, alone they've gone from fifth to

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<v Speaker 6>third to, second shooting like a shiny asteroid past their glittering.

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<v Speaker 6>Peers i'm a.

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<v Speaker 4>Runner you.

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<v Speaker 6>Know in the running, world the tell for whether someone

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<v Speaker 6>is doping is in an unexpected. Improvement you, know when

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<v Speaker 6>the twenty seven year old miler suddenly lops three seconds

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<v Speaker 6>off their personal. BEST i see you, say.

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<v Speaker 5>Sudden improvement is the tell sudden out of context.

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<v Speaker 6>Improvement oh. My the first Thing thadius did after the

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<v Speaker 6>faculty meeting is by a subscription to THE Us news.

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<v Speaker 6>Rankings he downloaded the Data columbia submitted for his, application

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<v Speaker 6>and his eye falls on class. Size columbia reported TO

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<v Speaker 6>Us news that eighty two point five percent of its

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<v Speaker 6>classes had less than twenty. Students thaddius looked at that

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<v Speaker 6>number and, thought.

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<v Speaker 5>Huh anyone who was taught here AS i have for

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<v Speaker 5>the last twenty five, years knows that our class sizes

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<v Speaker 5>are not particularly small for an elite, university and that

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<v Speaker 5>they have been steadily. Growing i'm teaching, calculus OR i

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<v Speaker 5>have just finished teaching a calculus course that had about

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<v Speaker 5>seventy six, students and that's typical for a course of that.

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<v Speaker 5>NATURE Us news said that what was it? AGAIN i

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<v Speaker 5>think eighty two point five percent of all classes enrolled

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<v Speaker 5>below twenty, students and that just did not square with

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<v Speaker 5>my experience at.

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<v Speaker 6>All so he decided to fact Check columbia's. Claim he

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<v Speaker 6>went to the university's class catalog and pulled out the

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<v Speaker 6>data on all thirty thousand of the school's.

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<v Speaker 5>CLASSES i took THE html code of those, pages downloaded

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<v Speaker 5>the source, code concatenated all the. Files THEN i used

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<v Speaker 5>a text, Editor emacs to edit the resulting gigantic file

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<v Speaker 5>in such a way THAT i turned it into a

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<v Speaker 5>database comma separated database with the course, names, numbers, enrollments

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<v Speaker 5>and THEN i opened it up In.

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<v Speaker 6>Excel he analyzed the, data double checked his, math and

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<v Speaker 6>realized his pokey feeling was.

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<v Speaker 5>JUSTIFIED i was able to arrive at an estimate it

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<v Speaker 5>was more like sixty two to sixty eight, percent a

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<v Speaker 5>far cry from eighty three.

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<v Speaker 6>Percent now he's getting. Suspicious he picks another. Number THE

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<v Speaker 6>Us news rankings penalizes the school if it has too

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<v Speaker 6>many part time. Faculty columbia TOLD Us news that it

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<v Speaker 6>only had one hundred and thirty seven part, timers but

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<v Speaker 6>that has found that the school also had to report

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<v Speaker 6>the statistic to The department Of.

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<v Speaker 5>Education the number reporter of the government was over one,

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<v Speaker 5>thousand AND i think that that's the more accurate number to,

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<v Speaker 5>me this is a really important figure that the balance

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<v Speaker 5>between full time and part time faculty is a crucial

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<v Speaker 5>matter for the future of intellectual life and the future

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<v Speaker 5>Of american. Universities if we just casualize our, faculty we

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<v Speaker 5>switched to the sort of gig economy model where most

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<v Speaker 5>people are working contingentally at part. Time that's going to

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<v Speaker 5>be disastrous for the quality of. Education it's going to

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<v Speaker 5>be disastrous for the quality of intellectual. Life and so

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<v Speaker 5>we need to have, honest reliable figures about. This and

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<v Speaker 5>yet we have these two figures From columbia that differ

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<v Speaker 5>by a factor of.

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<v Speaker 6>Eight he kept, GOING Us news wants to know what

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<v Speaker 6>percentage of your faculty has a terminal degree in their. Field,

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<v Speaker 6>basically do they have a PhD or. Not columbia reported

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<v Speaker 6>the highest terminal degree number of any college in the entire,

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<v Speaker 6>country ninety nine point five, percent WHICH Us news rounded

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<v Speaker 6>up to one hundred. Percent that's. Everyone So thadius goes

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<v Speaker 6>through the faculty directory and looks to see if there's

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<v Speaker 6>anyone teaching At columbia who only has a bachelor's degree

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<v Speaker 6>and finds dozens and dozens of faculty with no more

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<v Speaker 6>than A ba to their.

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<v Speaker 5>Name and that was enough that there was no way

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<v Speaker 5>that the percentage could have been ninety nine point.

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<v Speaker 6>Five columbia says it's student faculty ratio is six to.

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<v Speaker 6>One it's. Not it's more like eleven to. One on

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<v Speaker 6>and on.

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<v Speaker 5>Every single figure that WHERE i could check it, INDEPENDENTLY

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<v Speaker 5>i found a significant discrepancy between what was reported TO

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<v Speaker 5>Us news and WHAT i could confirm.

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<v Speaker 6>Elsewhere then he sat down and wrote up a massive

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<v Speaker 6>analysis of his findings, charts, graphs computer, analyzes pages upon.

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<v Speaker 6>Pages he puts it up on his faculty web, page

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<v Speaker 6>and there it sits for weeks and weeks, until for

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<v Speaker 6>some strange, reason someone posts a link To thaddeus's manifesto

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<v Speaker 6>on the message board of the running Website let's run dot.

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<v Speaker 6>Com if you are unfamiliar with the message boards Of Let's,

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<v Speaker 6>run here are some typical. Threads two he runs crazy

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<v Speaker 6>four to twenty three anchor leg FOR Nc, state but

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<v Speaker 6>still not enough for d mr. Or at twenty, SEVEN

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<v Speaker 6>i finally realized every tattoo anyone has is for attracting

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<v Speaker 6>a mate Or Rip, spencer the official dog of The Boston,

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<v Speaker 6>marathon has. Died now how DO i know about? This

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<v Speaker 6>Because Let's run is one of my favorite. WEBSITES i

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<v Speaker 6>am one of those people dutifully reading The Let's run message.

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<v Speaker 6>Boards SO i see a link and click on. It

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<v Speaker 6>because you know HOW i feel about THE us news.

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<v Speaker 6>Rankings i'm obsessed with. Them i've lost track of how

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<v Speaker 6>many revisionist history episodes have been devoted to testifying to their.

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<v Speaker 6>STUPIDITY i don't understand why college administrators care so much about,

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<v Speaker 6>them why parents and their college bound teenagers go nuts about.

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<v Speaker 6>Them when law schools and medical schools began dropping out

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<v Speaker 6>of THE us, RANKINGS i walked around the streets Of

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<v Speaker 6>New york pounding on my chest LIKE i was personally.

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<v Speaker 6>Responsible do you see What i'm? SAYING i was the

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<v Speaker 6>target audience for The thaddeus Expose.

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<v Speaker 5>AGAIN i salute. You you were serre of the tipping,

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<v Speaker 5>point AS i, SAID i, mean but when you started

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<v Speaker 5>tweeting about, it that was when the rest of the

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<v Speaker 5>world started to take. Notice So i'm grateful for.

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<v Speaker 6>That, oh the first nice thing anyone has ever said

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<v Speaker 6>about My. Twitter so the story goes. Everywhere colombia goes

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<v Speaker 6>into a defensive, crouch and THE Us news reanalyzes the

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<v Speaker 6>situation and Downgrades columbia back to. Eighteen, oh how the

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<v Speaker 6>mighty have. FALLEN i know what you're. Thinking The Pushkin

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<v Speaker 6>prize is a highly prestigious. Award those statuettes are. Coveted

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<v Speaker 6>so how can we be sure That columbia meets the

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<v Speaker 6>elevated standard set by our Namesake George? Santos very good.

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<v Speaker 6>Question please join me as we break it. Down to my,

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<v Speaker 6>mind there are three Criteria columbia needs to meet to

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<v Speaker 6>rise To santos level. Deception the first is. Gratuitousness that's

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<v Speaker 6>the power of The santos bit about his volleyball career At.

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<v Speaker 6>Baruk this was a lie fundamentally different from his claims

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<v Speaker 6>to Being, jewish working At Golden sachs and running a

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<v Speaker 6>charity for unwanted. Pets SORRY i left that one out.

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<v Speaker 6>Before those were all lies that helped his case with

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<v Speaker 6>the voters Of Long. ISLAND A jewish investment banker who

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<v Speaker 6>loves domestic animals is pretty much The Long island equivalent

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<v Speaker 6>Of George. Clooney but no one was going to vote

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<v Speaker 6>for him because he blew out two knees battling as

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<v Speaker 6>the shortest man on The barut volleyball. Squad he had

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<v Speaker 6>them A Jewish Goldman sachs and abandoned. Kittens the volleyball

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<v Speaker 6>lie was pure gilding the, lily and that's what makes

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<v Speaker 6>it so. Heroic santos lied when it wasn't even in

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<v Speaker 6>his interest to. Lie now Does columbia meet this? Standard

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<v Speaker 6>was their deception? Gratuitous in order to answer this, QUESTION

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<v Speaker 6>i turned To Revisionist history's resident data, Scientist Lauren. Lavelle,

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<v Speaker 6>Lauren Lauren, Lauren, Hey, malcolm we ride. Again some of

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<v Speaker 6>you may Remember lauren from The Project dillard episdisode Of Revision's.

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<v Speaker 6>HISTORY a group of undergraduates that read college hacked their

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<v Speaker 6>way into THE Us news, algorithm which gave them a

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<v Speaker 6>computer model that can test any hypothesis about a school's.

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<v Speaker 6>Rankings SO i Asked, lauren who studied statistics At, read

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<v Speaker 6>to use the model to figure out how a historically

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<v Speaker 6>black college could rise in THE Us news. Rankings you

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<v Speaker 6>may recall her. Answer it was the best way for

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<v Speaker 6>a college full of black students to rise in THE

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<v Speaker 6>Us news rankings was to let in lots of white.

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<v Speaker 4>Students AND i.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't emphasize enough that this model was built by undergraduate

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<v Speaker 3>students for a class. Project they did a great, job

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<v Speaker 3>and this model works. Amazingly you, know it wasn't some

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<v Speaker 3>super prestigious data scientists getting paid millions of dollars to

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<v Speaker 3>do this for some super prestigious university like it's.

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<v Speaker 6>Students in other, words the barriers to manipulation are. Low,

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<v Speaker 6>Yes SO i said To, lauren let's use the Trusted

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<v Speaker 6>read college model to get at this question of. GRATUITOUSNESS

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<v Speaker 6>i send her a list of questions starting with tell

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<v Speaker 6>me which Of columbia's whoppers mattered the, most and her

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<v Speaker 6>conclusion was a.

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<v Speaker 3>Shocker the thing that really making the biggest difference is

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<v Speaker 3>the faculty resources. Category so for faculty, resources we have

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<v Speaker 3>our class, size our percent of our faculty that are

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<v Speaker 3>full time and our student to faculty.

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<v Speaker 6>RATIO Us news grades all universities on a scale of

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<v Speaker 6>zero to one, hundred So princeton at number one is one.

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<v Speaker 6>Hundred columbia is a close second at ninety. Six according

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<v Speaker 6>To lauren's, analysis fiddling with just those three variables Gave

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<v Speaker 6>columbia an eight point. Boost and the reason that's unexpected

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<v Speaker 6>is because faculty resources only count for a tiny amount

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<v Speaker 6>in the OVERALL Us news ranking. Algorithm you tinker with those,

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<v Speaker 6>variables you get a massive.

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<v Speaker 3>Payoff exactly when you change just one or two of, them,

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<v Speaker 3>again it's only like a one or two, Point but

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<v Speaker 3>when you put all three of them, together it's the

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<v Speaker 3>synergies between these variables that create these big. Jumps, wait

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<v Speaker 3>so on.

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<v Speaker 6>Apausitives, yeah this is really interesting because this supports the

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<v Speaker 6>notion that this was not an accidental happening At. Columbia

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<v Speaker 6>this suggests there was some significant thought behind, this because

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<v Speaker 6>what you told me is something that's not. Intuitive. RIGHT

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<v Speaker 6>i would have thought that you could identify one whiz

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<v Speaker 6>bank that would have given us a massive. Payoff we

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<v Speaker 6>wouldn't have had to do anything. Else but what you're

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<v Speaker 6>saying is, no You, actually it's an unexpected area gives

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<v Speaker 6>you a huge. Payoff and also if you want to

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<v Speaker 6>get a twelve point, swing you have to tinker with

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of.

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<v Speaker 3>Variables, absolutely, Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 6>And there's there's some kind of thing greater than the

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<v Speaker 6>some of its parts that's that work here that you

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<v Speaker 6>could only stumble on if you went behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 6>and sort of tried to figure out a murky black

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<v Speaker 6>box that is us.

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<v Speaker 3>News, yes that is exactly What i'm. Saying so can

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<v Speaker 3>we do screen share on? Here is that a? Thing

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<v Speaker 3>CAN i show you my?

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<v Speaker 6>Code can? You can you tilt your camera to just

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<v Speaker 6>show me the thing IN i? See, oh oh it's

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<v Speaker 6>on your? Screen can you screen share an? Emo, Lauren

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<v Speaker 6>i'm fifty nine years. OLD i barely know how to

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<v Speaker 6>work a. Computer, sorry this went on for a. Bit

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<v Speaker 6>this is what happens when a data scientist tries to

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<v Speaker 6>communicate with a boomer over. Zoom lauren laps into geek

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<v Speaker 6>mode for like twenty, minutes talking about unexpected. Nonlinearities her

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<v Speaker 6>point was that the way to climb the rankings is not.

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<v Speaker 6>Obvious it's a laundry list of nips and tucks that

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<v Speaker 6>an unexpected combination give you a. Facelift if you tried

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<v Speaker 6>to do it just by eyeballing the criteria THAT Us

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<v Speaker 6>news makes, public you'd fail to go back to the

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<v Speaker 6>POINT i was, saying to my, mind this argues powerfully

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<v Speaker 6>for some kind of premeditation on the part Of. COLUMBIA i,

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<v Speaker 6>mean we have no idea what they, did so it

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<v Speaker 6>is all in the realm of. Speculation but they basically

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<v Speaker 6>manufactured a twelve point. Swing and it's very hard to

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<v Speaker 6>imagine how you could manufacture a twelve point swing by

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<v Speaker 6>the seat of your, pants because it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>INTUITIVE i, agree there's probably some dirty play happening, Somewhere.

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<v Speaker 6>Lauren they hired someone like, you that's what they. Did

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<v Speaker 6>somewhere out, there there is some brainy twenty six year

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<v Speaker 6>old with blood on their.

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<v Speaker 3>HANDS i, mean, maybe to.

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<v Speaker 6>Be, CLEAR i don't know that they hired someone Like

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<v Speaker 6>lauren to coordinate. This but here's the crucial fact that

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<v Speaker 6>Puts columbia In George santo's. Territory lots Of columbia's inventions

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<v Speaker 6>don't have much of a, payoff, like for, instance their

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<v Speaker 6>most spectacular nonsense of all The Big kahuna concerns something

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<v Speaker 6>called instructional resources the more money you spend on, teaching

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<v Speaker 6>the MORE Us news rewards. You and the number Of

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<v Speaker 6>columbia claim to spend on teaching was hilariously, large just

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<v Speaker 6>over three billion. Dollars that he has spent a huge

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<v Speaker 6>amount of time trying to figure out just where that

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<v Speaker 6>preposterous number came, from before he realized they just added

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<v Speaker 6>in the one point two billion they spend every year

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<v Speaker 6>on patient care At columbia's medical. Center they're pretending that

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<v Speaker 6>the person getting an Appendect toby is a, student which

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<v Speaker 6>is completely and utterly. Bananas now what difference did this

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<v Speaker 6>particular outrageous bit Of shenanigan.

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<v Speaker 3>Make let's, SEE i have a graph. Somewhere, Okay So

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<v Speaker 3>columbia reported that it spends about three billion dollars on an.

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<v Speaker 3>Instruction this is for fiscal year twenty twenty, two and

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<v Speaker 3>it's consolidated financial. Statements they report for instruction and educational

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<v Speaker 3>administration about two billion. Dollars.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh the reason we know this is a lie is

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<v Speaker 6>that on its official financial, statements which are audited by actual,

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<v Speaker 6>professionals the school doesn't pull the same.

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<v Speaker 3>Stunt so that's a billion dollars extra that they're reporting TO.

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<v Speaker 3>Us news, basically and when that works out on a

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<v Speaker 3>per student, basis you, know it's a lot of money

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<v Speaker 3>that they're kind, of you, feel playing around with Their.

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<v Speaker 6>Are you telling me long that a billion dollars is

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of money in your?

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<v Speaker 3>Book, yeah imagine, That like this number that's so large

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<v Speaker 3>the human brain literally can't even. Understand. Imagine and yet

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<v Speaker 3>when we drop that three billion down to two billion,

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<v Speaker 3>dollars we're still only seeing like a three point drop

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<v Speaker 3>in the, score two or three. Points so from about

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<v Speaker 3>ninety six to about a ninety four or ninety three three.

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<v Speaker 6>Points that's. It if they were only going to cheat

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<v Speaker 6>by inflating their student instructional expenditures by a, billion they

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<v Speaker 6>only get a three point jump. Exactly, okay, right it's

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<v Speaker 6>good to.

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<v Speaker 3>Know which sounds, crazy, Right like that's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>money to not really make a big difference in your. Score.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah so if you're the president Of columbia AND i

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<v Speaker 6>come to you AND i say we can drop an

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<v Speaker 6>imaginary billion into this and we're only getting three, points you're, Saying,

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<v Speaker 6>okay But i'm. Not it's not floating your.

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<v Speaker 3>Boat, yeah it doesn't seem like a very high return.

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<v Speaker 3>Rate you know What i'm, saying it's.

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<v Speaker 6>Gratuitous it's just Like George santos And baruke volleyball in.

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<v Speaker 6>Retrospect that was their, error wasn't. It they shouldn't have

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<v Speaker 6>done the bill. Done the billion dollar thing was so

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<v Speaker 6>obvious to At, regis and it gave them such a small. Payoff,

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<v Speaker 6>yeah why if you're trying to get away with some,

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<v Speaker 6>shenanigans would.

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<v Speaker 3>You it's a ridiculous, overstatement like it's more than it's

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<v Speaker 3>larger than the corresponding figures For, Harvard, yale And princeton.

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<v Speaker 3>COMBINED i, know, Bananas like it's so.

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<v Speaker 6>Bananas here's my you know what my interpretation. Is so

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<v Speaker 6>there's like some dude man or woman is charged with

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<v Speaker 6>coming up with a strategy and that that's the one

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<v Speaker 6>they do. Last so it's like it's It's monday morning

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<v Speaker 6>at three. Am they got a hand in their proposal

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<v Speaker 6>for hacking THE Us. News by nine, am they've been

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<v Speaker 6>up for forty eight. Hours they've done all the hard,

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<v Speaker 6>stuff and they're, like f let's just throw it an

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<v Speaker 6>extra bill on this they why.

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<v Speaker 3>Not throw in a few extra?

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<v Speaker 6>Zeros the bar set By George santos was very. High

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<v Speaker 6>The Pushkin prize committee Believes columbia met it okay criteria number.

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<v Speaker 6>Two the second thing our, Namesake George santos teaches us

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<v Speaker 6>is that you have to show as little remorse as.

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<v Speaker 6>Possible when the furer over his lies was at its,

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<v Speaker 6>peak he was.

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<v Speaker 7>UNRUFFLED i don't understand where these allegations come. From, Oh

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<v Speaker 7>George santels lives in a fantasy world or whatever it

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<v Speaker 7>is that they're trying to elude, there because it's just

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<v Speaker 7>people who know me know that that's just not the.

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<v Speaker 6>Case people who know, me which is, hilarious, right because

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<v Speaker 6>the whole reason there was a controversy Over George santos

0:28:55.876 --> 0:28:58.316
<v Speaker 6>is that he wouldn't tell us who he. Was at some,

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<v Speaker 6>point some enterprising journalists counted seven different names That santos

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<v Speaker 6>has used over the years For Pushkin prize. Consideration we

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<v Speaker 6>need that kind of. Morselessness let me give you WHAT

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<v Speaker 6>i think is a relevant. Counterexample it Concerns Temple university's

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<v Speaker 6>Online Business. School the story goes the dean of the

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<v Speaker 6>b school, there a man Named Mosha, pori was upset

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<v Speaker 6>about his school's LOW Us news, ranking so he sends

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<v Speaker 6>several of his underlings To, washington D. C to complain

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<v Speaker 6>to THE Us news rankings, team and in the course

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<v Speaker 6>of that, MEETING Us news let slip that they don't

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<v Speaker 6>actually check any of the data that schools send. Them

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<v Speaker 6>so the underlings report this back To, mosha And mosha's, like,

0:29:44.076 --> 0:29:47.156
<v Speaker 6>GREAT i guess there's no state troopers on this stretch

0:29:47.156 --> 0:29:50.476
<v Speaker 6>of the university Prestige. Highway so he hires a data.

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<v Speaker 6>Scientist they figure out that what really matters for online

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<v Speaker 6>business schools is what percentage of the school's incoming class

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<v Speaker 6>has taken THE. Gmat In temple's, case it's something like nineteen.

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<v Speaker 6>Percent So mosha changes that number to one hundred, percent

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<v Speaker 6>And Vola temple's Online business school faults to number one

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<v Speaker 6>in THE Us News online B school. Rankings now you

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<v Speaker 6>hear that story and you say to, yourself why Wasn't

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<v Speaker 6>mosha up for a pushkin? Price and believe, me we

0:30:24.556 --> 0:30:27.756
<v Speaker 6>thought long and hard about his. NOMINATION i, Mean mosha

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<v Speaker 6>was convicted of fraud and sentenced to fourteen. Months he

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<v Speaker 6>committed a.

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<v Speaker 9>Crime the charges Against parat were not just simply that

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<v Speaker 9>he DEFRAUDED Us News, rankings but that he defrauded applicants

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<v Speaker 9>to the, school students at the, school and, donors all

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<v Speaker 9>of whom look at the rankings and making their decision

0:30:50.596 --> 0:30:52.516
<v Speaker 9>about where to direct their.

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<v Speaker 6>Money That's Jennifer, williams who was in THE Us attorney's

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<v Speaker 6>office In philadelphia at the time of The temple.

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<v Speaker 9>Case and in, fact the, scheme as charged in the,

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<v Speaker 9>indictment was very. Successful not only did the rankings improve,

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<v Speaker 9>dramatically but the enrollment went way up and the total

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<v Speaker 9>amount of tuition That temple was able to get due

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<v Speaker 9>to the increased enrollment was almost forty million dollars over

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<v Speaker 9>the course of several. Years so that is the goal

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<v Speaker 9>of the. Fraud that's what made this a.

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<v Speaker 6>Crime so why Doesn't temple get The Sentos award, because

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<v Speaker 6>and this is, crucial the school has too much Remorse

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<v Speaker 6>when word leaks out About moshess. Shedanigans the school hires

0:31:33.836 --> 0:31:37.556
<v Speaker 6>a big name outside law, Firm Jones day to. Investigate

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<v Speaker 6>the university pays out millions of dollars in damages to

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<v Speaker 6>the students who enrolled thinking they were getting a degree

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<v Speaker 6>from the number one rank school in the. Country it

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<v Speaker 6>Was temple who turned In mosha to the. Authorities this

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<v Speaker 6>is not How columbia behaved at. All thaddeus releases his

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<v Speaker 6>report On february twenty, eighth twenty twenty, two And columbia

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<v Speaker 6>responds with a press release from the school's provost On june,

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<v Speaker 6>thirtieth months. Later i'm. Quoting columbia has long conducted what

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<v Speaker 6>we believe to be a thorough process for gathering and

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<v Speaker 6>reporting institutional, data but we are now closely reviewing our

0:32:22.956 --> 0:32:27.636
<v Speaker 6>processes in light of the questions. Raised the ongoing review

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<v Speaker 6>is a matter of. Integrity we will take no shortcuts

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<v Speaker 6>in getting it. Right temple, hired one of the world's

0:32:35.996 --> 0:32:40.236
<v Speaker 6>biggest law. Firms colombia launched a.

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<v Speaker 5>Review the approach has been just to say as little as,

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<v Speaker 5>possible try to attract as little, attention and wait for

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<v Speaker 5>the storm to blow.

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<v Speaker 6>Over you're saying that no member of the administration has

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<v Speaker 6>reached out to you since you published that.

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<v Speaker 5>Article Good. God, no, wait that's. Nuts that's. Nuts i'm

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<v Speaker 5>glad you think. SO i asked the question at a faculty.

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<v Speaker 5>Meeting did the review That columbia conducted explore the question

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<v Speaker 5>of intent about whether you know these falsehoods were provided?

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<v Speaker 5>Intentionally did anyone know that they were? False and if so,

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<v Speaker 5>who and the answer, was, well, no our review did

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<v Speaker 5>not look into that. Question so it's clear to me

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<v Speaker 5>that the review was not seriously intended to get to

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<v Speaker 5>the bottom of the. Matter was not a review.

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<v Speaker 6>Because The santos criteria are so. RIGOROUS i REALIZED i

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<v Speaker 6>needed to take further steps to see If columbia's remorselessness

0:33:34.796 --> 0:33:38.436
<v Speaker 6>remained in. Place, FIRST i waited to see whether they

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<v Speaker 6>would update The june thirtieth press. RELEASE i, waited waited

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<v Speaker 6>six months, past so THEN i DECIDED i needed to

0:33:48.836 --> 0:33:52.636
<v Speaker 6>contact them. DIRECTLY i sent an, email asked for an

0:33:52.636 --> 0:33:58.236
<v Speaker 6>interview with the. Provost, waited, waited, waited until finally someone

0:33:58.276 --> 0:34:01.436
<v Speaker 6>in the media relations department emailed me back with a

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<v Speaker 6>link to the press release Of june. Thirtieth we are

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<v Speaker 6>not commenting beyond the statements issued, BELOW i was. Told

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<v Speaker 6>SO i respond BECAUSE i don't want some blogger down

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<v Speaker 6>the line SAYING i rush to judgment on the remorselessness.

0:34:17.356 --> 0:34:22.396
<v Speaker 6>Criteria are you? SURE i write. BACK i talk About Michael,

0:34:22.396 --> 0:34:25.236
<v Speaker 6>THADDEUS i tell him About lauren and her computer. MODEL

0:34:25.556 --> 0:34:28.396
<v Speaker 6>i tell him About Jennifer williams talking about The temple.

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<v Speaker 6>Case are you? Sure for the university not to comment

0:34:32.996 --> 0:34:38.396
<v Speaker 6>under these, circumstances, will from your, perspective be. Problematic don't

0:34:38.436 --> 0:34:42.716
<v Speaker 6>you THINK a week, PASSES i get an email, Back

0:34:43.316 --> 0:34:47.596
<v Speaker 6>we're working on. IT a month. Passes finally get another,

0:34:47.636 --> 0:34:52.396
<v Speaker 6>email essentially restating the original press. RELEASE i print out

0:34:52.436 --> 0:34:55.676
<v Speaker 6>the statement and run around the office holding it. HIGH

0:34:55.836 --> 0:34:58.676
<v Speaker 6>i can't believe. It we have met the formal standard for.

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<v Speaker 6>Remorselessness one last part of. Me you have to be

0:35:04.516 --> 0:35:07.316
<v Speaker 6>reckless to win A pushkin. Prize your lines have to

0:35:07.356 --> 0:35:09.676
<v Speaker 6>put you in potential jeopardy if if you want to

0:35:09.716 --> 0:35:13.916
<v Speaker 6>win one of our coveted gold. Statuettes we have, gratuitousness

0:35:14.316 --> 0:35:23.676
<v Speaker 6>we have, Remorselessness but do we have? Recklessness we? Do

0:35:24.436 --> 0:35:27.036
<v Speaker 6>and to say, HOW i need to be serious for a.

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<v Speaker 6>SECOND i actually Love. COLUMBIA i think it's an extraordinary

0:35:31.596 --> 0:35:35.716
<v Speaker 6>place full of extraordinary. PEOPLE i can't tell you how

0:35:35.716 --> 0:35:38.476
<v Speaker 6>many Times i've sat in the office of some professor

0:35:38.476 --> 0:35:41.196
<v Speaker 6>At columbia and had the world opened up for. ME

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<v Speaker 6>i Love, columbia even THOUGH i Know columbia will never

0:35:45.396 --> 0:35:48.596
<v Speaker 6>Be princeton Or. Harvard they're never going to have fifty

0:35:48.716 --> 0:35:52.036
<v Speaker 6>billion dollars in the, bank and without fifty billion dollars

0:35:52.036 --> 0:35:54.516
<v Speaker 6>in the. Bank it's awfully hard to climb to the

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<v Speaker 6>top of THE Us news. Rankings but The president Of

0:35:57.836 --> 0:36:00.596
<v Speaker 6>columbia ought to be able to stand up and, say

0:36:01.156 --> 0:36:03.636
<v Speaker 6>we are the pre eminent institution of learning in the

0:36:03.636 --> 0:36:06.196
<v Speaker 6>greatest city in the, world and if we have lots

0:36:06.236 --> 0:36:08.916
<v Speaker 6>of part time, faculty it's because we are drawing on

0:36:08.956 --> 0:36:12.316
<v Speaker 6>the resources of amazing people who spend their working days

0:36:12.316 --> 0:36:15.756
<v Speaker 6>On broadway Or Madison avenue Or Wall. Street and if

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<v Speaker 6>our classes are, large it just means that every student

0:36:19.196 --> 0:36:22.116
<v Speaker 6>has the privilege of rubbing shoulders with lots of other

0:36:22.236 --> 0:36:25.396
<v Speaker 6>curious and willing. Students and by the, way if you

0:36:25.476 --> 0:36:27.676
<v Speaker 6>are someone who believes at the best measure of a

0:36:27.796 --> 0:36:31.516
<v Speaker 6>university's intellectual vitality is how much money it has in the,

0:36:31.556 --> 0:36:35.476
<v Speaker 6>bank or what percentage of its faculty have, PhDs or

0:36:35.516 --> 0:36:38.676
<v Speaker 6>how many students are in its, classes Then columbia is

0:36:38.876 --> 0:36:43.036
<v Speaker 6>probably going to be wasted on. You The president Of

0:36:43.196 --> 0:36:46.356
<v Speaker 6>columbia ought to be able to stand up and explain

0:36:46.396 --> 0:36:49.956
<v Speaker 6>to the world What columbia is and what it stands.

0:36:49.956 --> 0:36:54.316
<v Speaker 6>For but he didn't do, that and his school got

0:36:54.356 --> 0:36:58.556
<v Speaker 6>consumed with succeeding at a rankings game that is morally

0:36:58.636 --> 0:37:03.756
<v Speaker 6>and intellectually bankrupt some jackass in The columbia. Administration AND

0:37:03.836 --> 0:37:05.916
<v Speaker 6>i have no idea who it, was BUT i hope

0:37:05.916 --> 0:37:07.996
<v Speaker 6>they are found out and made to do one thousand

0:37:08.036 --> 0:37:12.036
<v Speaker 6>hours of community service teaching arithmetic to some first. Grader

0:37:12.516 --> 0:37:16.236
<v Speaker 6>that jackass decided to cook the. Books and now what

0:37:16.276 --> 0:37:19.116
<v Speaker 6>do we have a school that has broken the most

0:37:19.116 --> 0:37:21.036
<v Speaker 6>fundamental of promises.

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<v Speaker 4>To its own.

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<v Speaker 6>Community let me quote to you from The Columbia University

0:37:28.476 --> 0:37:32.836
<v Speaker 6>code Of, conduct The Ethical. Standard columbia holds its own

0:37:32.996 --> 0:37:40.076
<v Speaker 6>students to, falsification, forgery or misrepresentation of information to any

0:37:40.196 --> 0:37:43.836
<v Speaker 6>university official in order to gain an unfair academic advantage

0:37:43.876 --> 0:37:48.116
<v Speaker 6>in coursework or lab work on any, application, petition or

0:37:48.196 --> 0:37:55.196
<v Speaker 6>documents submitted to the university is. Prohibited this, includes but

0:37:55.396 --> 0:37:59.516
<v Speaker 6>is not limited, to falsifying information on a, resume fabrication

0:37:59.636 --> 0:38:04.476
<v Speaker 6>of credentials or academic, records misrepresenting one's own, research and

0:38:04.716 --> 0:38:12.436
<v Speaker 6>providing false or misleading. Information ladies and, GENTLEMEN i give

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<v Speaker 6>you the winner of The Pushkin prize for, gratuitous, remorseless

0:38:16.796 --> 0:38:40.396
<v Speaker 6>and recklessly deceptive self. Promotion this episode Of Revisionist history

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<v Speaker 6>was produced By Kiara powell With Leemingestou Ben Adafh haffrey

0:38:44.516 --> 0:38:48.356
<v Speaker 6>And Jacob. Smith original scoring By Luis, skara fact checking

0:38:48.436 --> 0:38:52.196
<v Speaker 6>By Kishelle williams And Tolly. Emlin our showrunner Is Peter,

0:38:52.276 --> 0:38:56.756
<v Speaker 6>clowney mastering By Flaon, williams engineering By Nina, lawrence and

0:38:57.316 --> 0:39:02.196
<v Speaker 6>special things To columbia's Own Michael, fatius who not only

0:39:02.236 --> 0:39:05.716
<v Speaker 6>did the research that inspired this, episode but also made

0:39:06.076 --> 0:39:08.956
<v Speaker 6>a joke WHEN i was talking to him that inspired

0:39:09.236 --> 0:39:21.756
<v Speaker 6>name of our first Ever Santos Memorial. Prize there's a

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<v Speaker 6>PostScript to this. Story On june, sixth two days before

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<v Speaker 6>this episode, Aired Columbia university made an announcement they were

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<v Speaker 6>dropping out of THE Us News undergraduate, rankings becoming the

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<v Speaker 6>FIRST Ivy league school to abandon THE Us news methodology

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<v Speaker 6>that did so much to make THE Ivy league THE Ivy.

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<v Speaker 6>League the press, release like so many of the press

0:39:46.356 --> 0:39:50.076
<v Speaker 6>releases issued By columbia over the course of this, controversy

0:39:50.676 --> 0:39:53.236
<v Speaker 6>read like it was dictated by a room of ten

0:39:53.316 --> 0:39:56.996
<v Speaker 6>thousand dollars an hour attorneys on a zoom call from Midtown.

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<v Speaker 6>Manhattan in a, Statement columbia said that in response to

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<v Speaker 6>the allegations of, cheating it had, quote conducted an exhaustive internal,

0:40:05.716 --> 0:40:10.476
<v Speaker 6>review and where errors were, confirmed is shoot public corrections

0:40:10.836 --> 0:40:14.716
<v Speaker 6>and made changes to the collection methodologies that led to the.

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<v Speaker 6>INACCURACIES i got an email From Michael thaddeus almost. Immediately

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<v Speaker 6>this is completely, untrue he. Wrote columbia has never corrected

0:40:25.796 --> 0:40:28.996
<v Speaker 6>the false information it, provided probably over many, years TO

0:40:29.116 --> 0:40:32.876
<v Speaker 6>Us news about class sizes or about proportion of full time.

0:40:32.916 --> 0:40:36.436
<v Speaker 6>Faculty for. Example what it did was admit in a

0:40:36.516 --> 0:40:40.956
<v Speaker 6>general way to quote, outdated end or incorrect methodologies and

0:40:40.996 --> 0:40:45.796
<v Speaker 6>acknowledged that quote class sized data was previously reported incorrectly,

0:40:46.116 --> 0:40:50.996
<v Speaker 6>unquote but it never corrected the false, figures nor has

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<v Speaker 6>it even specified which figures were false or for how.

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<v Speaker 8>Long end of.

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<v Speaker 6>Quote oh and by the, way the school's, provost whose

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<v Speaker 6>office is responsible for its submissions TO Us, news suddenly

0:41:04.996 --> 0:41:08.996
<v Speaker 6>announced that she was resigning after an unusually short term.

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<v Speaker 6>Office we may have to do a follow, up don't

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