WEBVTT - Short Stuff: Theme Park Cremations

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, and welcome to the short stuff. I'm Josh, and

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck's here, and Jerry's here, and we're all here, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is short stuff with even more talk on cremins.

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<v Speaker 1>You thought we were done with talking cremains. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>done talking cremains. Don't you remember cremains is offensive to

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<v Speaker 1>the funeral directors. It's cremated remains. Oh did they say that? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we said that because people wrote in and told us that. No.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we found it in our research atually. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we talked about it on one of our many,

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<v Speaker 1>many episodes where we've talked about human remains. All right, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I apologize then to start off this short stuff. That's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really tough not to say. It's everywhere too. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just so catchy. But apparently what the basis of it

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<v Speaker 1>is that what you're talking about is needs more dignity

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<v Speaker 1>than a jargony catchphrase like cremaine. I'm with you, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a it's not a McDonald's product. It's not me

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<v Speaker 1>saying that. No, you're thinking of mc ashes. So what

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about is what people do with cremated remains.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so hard not to say it now, and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things. You know, sometimes people keep it in

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<v Speaker 1>a vase in their home or in a box or

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. But it seems like more and more

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<v Speaker 1>the thing to do, and what I would like done

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<v Speaker 1>as well, is is to scatter those cremated remains somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>meaningful for for that person, whether it be a place

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<v Speaker 1>they went camping or their favorite uh rooftop pool at

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<v Speaker 1>a high end hotel or huh are you speaking about

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<v Speaker 1>something specific or just pulling stuff out of your cuffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of the cuffs? So okay, Wow, that was really

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<v Speaker 1>nice and random. I love it. Um or you know

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<v Speaker 1>someone's favorite restaurant you name it, like the man Chuck

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<v Speaker 1>really love the steakhouse. So we're gonna sneak some cremated

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<v Speaker 1>remains in here and put a couple of spoonfuls in

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<v Speaker 1>the palm plant by the front door. Yeah, and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>sprinkle a little bit in the bottle of tomorrow. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>why not? Yeah, That's what you just described is what's

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<v Speaker 1>called wildcat scattering, where you know that there are rules

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<v Speaker 1>in place, and there are plenty of rules in place

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<v Speaker 1>about scattering cremated remains, but you're just flouting it. You say,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care. Chuck wouldn't care. Chuck would want me

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<v Speaker 1>to spread them all over this steak joint, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what we're going to do. Yeah, so that's called wildcat scattering.

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<v Speaker 1>What's interesting about the term wildcat scattering is I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure if our friends at house stuff Works made that

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<v Speaker 1>up or not. Yeah, this is from Nathan Chandler from

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<v Speaker 1>houstuffworks dot com. Do you think they made that up?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it might be triggering a different memory.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was learning to drive, the woman who taught

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<v Speaker 1>me to drive, like the like I went to an

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<v Speaker 1>actual driving school, she said, you know when you when

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a snarl of people on the highway and

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<v Speaker 1>you have to kind of wiggle your way out and

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<v Speaker 1>speed up, call them wolf packs. Oh okay, And I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that that's what they were called. And I remember

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<v Speaker 1>saying that to a friend within the next year and

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<v Speaker 1>they were like, that's not what that's called, and they said.

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<v Speaker 1>It was such confidence that I realized that that woman

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<v Speaker 1>had made it up and was basically trying to spread

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<v Speaker 1>it around as if it were real, to make it real.

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<v Speaker 1>So I saw wildcat maybe a triggered wolf pack who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't think it could have been a regionalism. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never heard anybody else call it a wolf pack.

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<v Speaker 1>Well we'll find out if someone writes in and they

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<v Speaker 1>were like, oh yeah, and Treboygan we call them wolfpacks,

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<v Speaker 1>right for somebody writing and be like that's so high O.

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<v Speaker 1>Wolf pack is one place that if you if you're

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<v Speaker 1>interested in scattering remains in a meaningful place, one place

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<v Speaker 1>that you can do so in the wild, legal with

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<v Speaker 1>permission is at a national park. Yeah, you got to

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<v Speaker 1>have to get a special permit for those. You can

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<v Speaker 1>also put them in bodies of water as well, public

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<v Speaker 1>body of water, but again it's their regulations and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times you need to get permission or a

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<v Speaker 1>permit and then they say like, hey, listen, you can

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<v Speaker 1>do that, but you can't do it, you know, fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>feet from the shore because no one wants to swim

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<v Speaker 1>up on that stuff. Like, get out there one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>feet or whatever the rule is and notify us and

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<v Speaker 1>then you're good to go. Well, from what I saw,

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<v Speaker 1>you need to be out three nautical miles to scatter

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's ashes legally. Is that's in an ocean clearly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but what about in your favorite like municipal lake. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, man, I do not know what the rule

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<v Speaker 1>is on that because it probably depends on the place.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole thing that they're trying to do is get

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<v Speaker 1>around people getting open up against the cremated remains that

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<v Speaker 1>are not floating in your lake. You know, um, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter how you feel about it, you probably don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to kayak through a like a puddle of or not

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<v Speaker 1>a slick. A slick of cremated remains is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>floating there. That wouldn't bother me. Okay, So I'm wondering

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<v Speaker 1>about this because a lot of people might. But all

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<v Speaker 1>over the internet there are some people who are like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to do that, and other people are like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the most disgusting thing I've ever heard. And it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not like throwing body parts into the lake. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>these are cremated remains. This is ashes, pulverized ash. And

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<v Speaker 1>what's more, the temperatures that the corpse is exposed to

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<v Speaker 1>are on the order of about fifteen hundred degrees f

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred and fifteen degrees celsis. There it's considered sterile

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<v Speaker 1>ashes are sterile um, But I think it's just the

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<v Speaker 1>association with the fact that it used to be a

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<v Speaker 1>body that that's what really bothers people, right, I guess so,

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone is different. I'm not yucking a yum or

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<v Speaker 1>yemming a yuck, but I see it if I had

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<v Speaker 1>done that, if I, like canoe through something that turned

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<v Speaker 1>out to be remains, I would see that as like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of like an honor, almost like getting upgraded

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<v Speaker 1>by a whale exactly. But the thing is okay, So yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand that. But what if when you got out

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<v Speaker 1>of the lake and you put your behind your trailer

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<v Speaker 1>and it was just smeared on your canoe. Wouldn't you

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<v Speaker 1>feel bad about toting the person's remains with you, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>putting them in your garage, on your canoe, or even worse,

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<v Speaker 1>hosing them off at home. Sure, that's I think one

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<v Speaker 1>of the other problems. People who aren't grossed out by

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<v Speaker 1>it don't want the responsibility of, yeah, somebody's cremated remains

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<v Speaker 1>like on their shoe and not knowing what to do

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<v Speaker 1>about that. Yeah, that's true. All right, I'm gonna think

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<v Speaker 1>hard about this while we take our break and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be right back, okay, just like stars so much so

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about places to do it legally in there.

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<v Speaker 1>There are plenty of places. The key seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>asking permission ahead of time, right. There are places where

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<v Speaker 1>if you ask permission ahead of time, they'll say no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>and don't you dare do it anyway. Right. One of

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<v Speaker 1>those places, that's one of the most popular places to

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<v Speaker 1>engage in wildcats scattering sometimes if you do it as

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<v Speaker 1>a group, that's a wolfpack wildcat scattering is disney World

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<v Speaker 1>in Disneyland. Yeah, theme parks, and of course Disney is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the big daddy. That place means a

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<v Speaker 1>lot to a lot of people. And you know people

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<v Speaker 1>that go there. We know people that go there many

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<v Speaker 1>many times every year of their life and just it's

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<v Speaker 1>a part of their fabric and they're like, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to be dumped in the Pirates of the Caribbean. That's

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<v Speaker 1>where I want to be. That's one of the big ones,

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<v Speaker 1>as Pirates of the Caribbean. And it's a small world,

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<v Speaker 1>I think. And then also the Haunted Mansion is another

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<v Speaker 1>big one, and you can kind of understands. Yes, they're

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<v Speaker 1>literally called dark rides, but the Pirates of the Caribbean

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<v Speaker 1>one and It's a Small World makes sense because you're

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<v Speaker 1>dumping the ashes into the water and it's really becoming

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<v Speaker 1>part of that ride. The Haunted Mansion in particular, is

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<v Speaker 1>a really bad choice because they're probably going to see

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<v Speaker 1>you do it. They're probably going to stop the entire ride,

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<v Speaker 1>evacuate everyone from the ride. Ye bring in a special

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<v Speaker 1>custodial team and vacuum up the ashes and dump them

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<v Speaker 1>in the trash. That's what's going to happen. That's where

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<v Speaker 1>Grandpa will end up because there's, like he said, there's

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<v Speaker 1>cameras everywhere, but people still take this risk. Although I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't something in this article say that Disney said that

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<v Speaker 1>people don't do this. Yeah, so this article said that

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<v Speaker 1>Disney's official stance is that it does not happen. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw a twenty eighteen Wall Street Journal article. I should

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<v Speaker 1>say I saw a lot of reference to it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>too cheap to spring for the subscription, but apparently in

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<v Speaker 1>that article they interviewed people who were with Disney saying like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this happens a lot, a lot, and here's what happens

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<v Speaker 1>when they do that, and Ultimately, the bottom line is,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you get away with it, even if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't get caught and escorted out of the park and

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<v Speaker 1>probably banned for life from any Disney attraction. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>cremated remains are going to be swept up one way

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<v Speaker 1>or another and thrown in the trash. Your grandpa is

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<v Speaker 1>not going to forever be part of the Haunted Mansion,

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<v Speaker 1>right because they clean those rides thoroughly and frequently, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's not going to there anymore. He's going to end

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<v Speaker 1>up in the trash. And is that really where he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be? Yeah? Yeah, meaning now right, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I saw is basically the bottom line to the whole thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And like you said, you you're probably gonna get kicked out.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if they have a public stance,

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<v Speaker 1>like official stance on that, because their public stance is like,

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<v Speaker 1>no one does that here, right, keep coming, keep coming

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<v Speaker 1>the Disney world. You're not when you drag your hand

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<v Speaker 1>in the water of the Pirate scribbean, And it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just literally full of cremated remains. Maybe a tooth bobbing

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<v Speaker 1>up and down here or there's now that would that

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<v Speaker 1>would gross me out? Sure? That would be very disturbing.

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<v Speaker 1>I still I do see the Pirates of the Caribbean

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<v Speaker 1>Rye being the smart one. Though. If you're gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>it anyway, if you're such a wildcat that you listen

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<v Speaker 1>to this episode and still do it, we guess that's

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<v Speaker 1>probably the best way to do it. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>be scattered at my camp. Oh yeah, I'm sure of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Unless something changes. That seems like a great, great place

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<v Speaker 1>to spend eternity. Yeah, way to go, man, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>great It's a great thing to settle on. You mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I are still trying to figure that one out. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let me know. Maybe me doing it, Okay, I will

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<v Speaker 1>if you go. If you guys go down in a

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<v Speaker 1>hill of gunfire at a bank robbery or something, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's gonna be you doing it, then definitely Pirates

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<v Speaker 1>of the Caribbean. Right, want me banned from Disney World?

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<v Speaker 1>You got anything else? I got nothing else me either.

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<v Speaker 1>Wildcats scattering don't do it. Short. Stuff is out. Stuff

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