1 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the short stuff. I'm Josh, and 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: Chuck's here, and Jerry's here, and we're all here, and 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: this is short stuff with even more talk on cremins. 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: You thought we were done with talking cremains. We're not 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: done talking cremains. Don't you remember cremains is offensive to 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: the funeral directors. It's cremated remains. Oh did they say that? Yeah, 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: we said that because people wrote in and told us that. No. 8 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:32,919 Speaker 1: I think we found it in our research atually. Yeah, 9 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: I think we talked about it on one of our many, 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: many episodes where we've talked about human remains. All right, well, 11 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: I apologize then to start off this short stuff. That's okay. 12 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: It's really tough not to say. It's everywhere too. It's 13 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: just so catchy. But apparently what the basis of it 14 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: is that what you're talking about is needs more dignity 15 00:00:55,720 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 1: than a jargony catchphrase like cremaine. I'm with you, it's 16 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: not a it's not a McDonald's product. It's not me 17 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: saying that. No, you're thinking of mc ashes. So what 18 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: we're talking about is what people do with cremated remains. 19 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: It's so hard not to say it now, and a 20 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: lot of things. You know, sometimes people keep it in 21 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: a vase in their home or in a box or 22 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: something like that. But it seems like more and more 23 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: the thing to do, and what I would like done 24 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: as well, is is to scatter those cremated remains somewhere 25 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 1: meaningful for for that person, whether it be a place 26 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: they went camping or their favorite uh rooftop pool at 27 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: a high end hotel or huh are you speaking about 28 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: something specific or just pulling stuff out of your cuffs. 29 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: Out of the cuffs? So okay, Wow, that was really 30 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: nice and random. I love it. Um or you know 31 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: someone's favorite restaurant you name it, like the man Chuck 32 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: really love the steakhouse. So we're gonna sneak some cremated 33 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: remains in here and put a couple of spoonfuls in 34 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: the palm plant by the front door. Yeah, and maybe 35 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: sprinkle a little bit in the bottle of tomorrow. Yeah 36 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: why not? Yeah, That's what you just described is what's 37 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: called wildcat scattering, where you know that there are rules 38 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 1: in place, and there are plenty of rules in place 39 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: about scattering cremated remains, but you're just flouting it. You say, 40 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: I don't care. Chuck wouldn't care. Chuck would want me 41 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: to spread them all over this steak joint, and that's 42 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: what we're going to do. Yeah, so that's called wildcat scattering. 43 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: What's interesting about the term wildcat scattering is I'm not 44 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: sure if our friends at house stuff Works made that 45 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: up or not. Yeah, this is from Nathan Chandler from 46 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: houstuffworks dot com. Do you think they made that up? 47 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what it might be triggering a different memory. 48 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: When I was learning to drive, the woman who taught 49 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: me to drive, like the like I went to an 50 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: actual driving school, she said, you know when you when 51 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: you're in a snarl of people on the highway and 52 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: you have to kind of wiggle your way out and 53 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: speed up, call them wolf packs. Oh okay, And I 54 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: thought that that's what they were called. And I remember 55 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: saying that to a friend within the next year and 56 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: they were like, that's not what that's called, and they said. 57 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: It was such confidence that I realized that that woman 58 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: had made it up and was basically trying to spread 59 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: it around as if it were real, to make it real. 60 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: So I saw wildcat maybe a triggered wolf pack who knows. 61 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: You don't think it could have been a regionalism. I don't. 62 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: I've never heard anybody else call it a wolf pack. 63 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: Well we'll find out if someone writes in and they 64 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: were like, oh yeah, and Treboygan we call them wolfpacks, 65 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: right for somebody writing and be like that's so high O. 66 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: Wolf pack is one place that if you if you're 67 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: interested in scattering remains in a meaningful place, one place 68 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: that you can do so in the wild, legal with 69 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: permission is at a national park. Yeah, you got to 70 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: have to get a special permit for those. You can 71 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: also put them in bodies of water as well, public 72 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: body of water, but again it's their regulations and a 73 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: lot of times you need to get permission or a 74 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: permit and then they say like, hey, listen, you can 75 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: do that, but you can't do it, you know, fifteen 76 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,119 Speaker 1: feet from the shore because no one wants to swim 77 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: up on that stuff. Like, get out there one hundred 78 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: feet or whatever the rule is and notify us and 79 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 1: then you're good to go. Well, from what I saw, 80 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: you need to be out three nautical miles to scatter 81 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: somebody's ashes legally. Is that's in an ocean clearly. Yeah, 82 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: but what about in your favorite like municipal lake. I 83 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: don't know, man, I do not know what the rule 84 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,559 Speaker 1: is on that because it probably depends on the place. 85 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: The whole thing that they're trying to do is get 86 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: around people getting open up against the cremated remains that 87 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: are not floating in your lake. You know, um, no 88 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: matter how you feel about it, you probably don't want 89 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: to kayak through a like a puddle of or not 90 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: a slick. A slick of cremated remains is kind of 91 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: floating there. That wouldn't bother me. Okay, So I'm wondering 92 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: about this because a lot of people might. But all 93 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: over the internet there are some people who are like, oh, yeah, 94 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: you don't want to do that, and other people are like, 95 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: that's the most disgusting thing I've ever heard. And it's like, 96 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: you're not like throwing body parts into the lake. I mean, 97 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: these are cremated remains. This is ashes, pulverized ash. And 98 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: what's more, the temperatures that the corpse is exposed to 99 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: are on the order of about fifteen hundred degrees f 100 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: eight hundred and fifteen degrees celsis. There it's considered sterile 101 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: ashes are sterile um, But I think it's just the 102 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: association with the fact that it used to be a 103 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: body that that's what really bothers people, right, I guess so, 104 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: and everyone is different. I'm not yucking a yum or 105 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: yemming a yuck, but I see it if I had 106 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: done that, if I, like canoe through something that turned 107 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: out to be remains, I would see that as like, Wow, 108 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: that's kind of like an honor, almost like getting upgraded 109 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: by a whale exactly. But the thing is okay, So yes, 110 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: I understand that. But what if when you got out 111 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: of the lake and you put your behind your trailer 112 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: and it was just smeared on your canoe. Wouldn't you 113 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: feel bad about toting the person's remains with you, you know, 114 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: putting them in your garage, on your canoe, or even worse, 115 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: hosing them off at home. Sure, that's I think one 116 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: of the other problems. People who aren't grossed out by 117 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: it don't want the responsibility of, yeah, somebody's cremated remains 118 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: like on their shoe and not knowing what to do 119 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, that's true. All right, I'm gonna think 120 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: hard about this while we take our break and we'll 121 00:06:49,839 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: be right back, okay, just like stars so much so 122 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: we talked about places to do it legally in there. 123 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: There are plenty of places. The key seems to be 124 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: asking permission ahead of time, right. There are places where 125 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,679 Speaker 1: if you ask permission ahead of time, they'll say no, no, 126 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: and don't you dare do it anyway. Right. One of 127 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: those places, that's one of the most popular places to 128 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: engage in wildcats scattering sometimes if you do it as 129 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: a group, that's a wolfpack wildcat scattering is disney World 130 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: in Disneyland. Yeah, theme parks, and of course Disney is 131 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: going to be the big daddy. That place means a 132 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: lot to a lot of people. And you know people 133 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: that go there. We know people that go there many 134 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: many times every year of their life and just it's 135 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,559 Speaker 1: a part of their fabric and they're like, I want 136 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: to be dumped in the Pirates of the Caribbean. That's 137 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: where I want to be. That's one of the big ones, 138 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: as Pirates of the Caribbean. And it's a small world, 139 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: I think. And then also the Haunted Mansion is another 140 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: big one, and you can kind of understands. Yes, they're 141 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: literally called dark rides, but the Pirates of the Caribbean 142 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: one and It's a Small World makes sense because you're 143 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: dumping the ashes into the water and it's really becoming 144 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: part of that ride. The Haunted Mansion in particular, is 145 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: a really bad choice because they're probably going to see 146 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: you do it. They're probably going to stop the entire ride, 147 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: evacuate everyone from the ride. Ye bring in a special 148 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: custodial team and vacuum up the ashes and dump them 149 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: in the trash. That's what's going to happen. That's where 150 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: Grandpa will end up because there's, like he said, there's 151 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: cameras everywhere, but people still take this risk. Although I mean, 152 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: didn't something in this article say that Disney said that 153 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: people don't do this. Yeah, so this article said that 154 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: Disney's official stance is that it does not happen. I 155 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: saw a twenty eighteen Wall Street Journal article. I should 156 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: say I saw a lot of reference to it. I'm 157 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: too cheap to spring for the subscription, but apparently in 158 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: that article they interviewed people who were with Disney saying like, yes, 159 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: this happens a lot, a lot, and here's what happens 160 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: when they do that, and Ultimately, the bottom line is, 161 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: even if you get away with it, even if you 162 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: don't get caught and escorted out of the park and 163 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: probably banned for life from any Disney attraction. Yeah, the 164 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: cremated remains are going to be swept up one way 165 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: or another and thrown in the trash. Your grandpa is 166 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: not going to forever be part of the Haunted Mansion, 167 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: right because they clean those rides thoroughly and frequently, and 168 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: he's not going to there anymore. He's going to end 169 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: up in the trash. And is that really where he 170 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: wanted to be? Yeah? Yeah, meaning now right, that's what 171 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: I saw is basically the bottom line to the whole thing. Yeah, 172 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: And like you said, you you're probably gonna get kicked out. 173 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: I don't even know if they have a public stance, 174 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: like official stance on that, because their public stance is like, 175 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: no one does that here, right, keep coming, keep coming 176 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: the Disney world. You're not when you drag your hand 177 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: in the water of the Pirate scribbean, And it's not 178 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: just literally full of cremated remains. Maybe a tooth bobbing 179 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: up and down here or there's now that would that 180 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: would gross me out? Sure? That would be very disturbing. 181 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: I still I do see the Pirates of the Caribbean 182 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: Rye being the smart one. Though. If you're gonna do 183 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: it anyway, if you're such a wildcat that you listen 184 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: to this episode and still do it, we guess that's 185 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: probably the best way to do it. I want to 186 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: be scattered at my camp. Oh yeah, I'm sure of that. 187 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: Unless something changes. That seems like a great, great place 188 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: to spend eternity. Yeah, way to go, man, it's a 189 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: great It's a great thing to settle on. You mean, 190 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: I are still trying to figure that one out. Well, 191 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: let me know. Maybe me doing it, Okay, I will 192 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 1: if you go. If you guys go down in a 193 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: hill of gunfire at a bank robbery or something, well, 194 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: if it's gonna be you doing it, then definitely Pirates 195 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: of the Caribbean. Right, want me banned from Disney World? 196 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 1: You got anything else? I got nothing else me either. 197 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: Wildcats scattering don't do it. Short. Stuff is out. Stuff 198 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 1: you Should Know is a production of iHeartRadio. For more 199 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: podcasts my Heart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 200 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.