1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Friday edition, Clay Travis buck 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. It is a fabulous Friday. I know many 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: of you. Maybe you're cutting out of work a little 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: bit early today. Maybe you're out at lunch right now 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: on the East Coast and you're throwing up the deuces 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: and headed off into what should be an awesome July 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: fourth weekend, and there is much to celebrate as we 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: begin today's show with you. We're going to be joined 10 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: halfway through by Shannon Breem, who is the Fox News 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: You're a host of Fox News Sunday, but also has 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: been covering the Supreme Court for Fox News for a 13 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 1: long time. Now we'll have her breakdown these rulings in 14 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: more detail, but let's go ahead and dive right in. 15 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: Buck off the top here double Supreme Court six three 16 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: decisions coming on the heels of yesterday's six ' three 17 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: decision to indefirmative action in college and university admissions. Simplifying 18 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: what happened today the Biden attempt to cancel, and by 19 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 1: cancel we mean just take on as more of our 20 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: federal debt four hundred billion some odd dollars in student 21 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: loan debt was struck down as unconstitutional by the Supreme 22 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: Court six ' three margin. Also, in what feels to 23 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: me like an eminently reasonable yet also very significant ruling, 24 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: we've had this question over what can be compelled? What 25 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: can a business person be compelled to do? When it 26 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: comes to unique talent? A website designer in Colorado who 27 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: refused to do websites for gay weddings. You can correct 28 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong on this, Buck, in terms of 29 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: the factual details here, cannot be compelled to create those 30 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: websites for gay couples. Six ' three decision, preserving both 31 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: First Amendment rights and also freedom of just basic humanity. 32 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: When you are a talented individual, you cannot be compelled 33 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: to use your talents in a way that you do 34 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: not see fit. Seems eminently reasonable. Just kind of break 35 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: it down. If you can't discriminate against somebody, if you're 36 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: selling everything to the general public, but you cannot be 37 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: compelled to make a specific product for a specific person 38 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:37,399 Speaker 1: based on what their sexuality might be. So Buck, this 39 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: is a victory lap for Donald Trump. You can well 40 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: imagine what these rulings would have looked like if Hillary 41 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: Clinton had won in twenty sixteen. The most significant impact 42 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: I believe of Donald Trump's presidency the three Supreme Court 43 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: justices that he got on this court that are helping 44 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: to preserve liberty, insanity in America. 45 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 2: Look, it's a great week for freedom. It's a great 46 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: week for America. What can I tell you? The efforts 47 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: at totalitarianism, Marxism racial Marxism have failed, at least with 48 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 2: regard to the major challenges making their way all the 49 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: way up to the Supreme Court. Three pretty substantial wins. 50 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:23,119 Speaker 2: I mean, I think when you when you rack them up, 51 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: the affirmative action decision is just the beginning, as we 52 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: said yesterday, of further challenges. Everyone's pointing to the fact 53 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: that Harvard has looked at what they're calling the loophole 54 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: of oh, you have to write about your experience overcoming 55 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: racial discrimination. And other people were writing in yesterday listeners 56 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: and saying, well, what about gender identity stuff? And this 57 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 2: is not going away overnight, But you know what's going 58 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: to happen if Harvard has eleven percent this group and 59 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: fifteen percent that group, and so on years and years 60 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: in a row, and someone sues again, they're going to 61 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: be able to make a case that this discrimination has 62 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: effectively continued when they get access to the numbers. Now, 63 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: Harvard and other schools may try to make that harder 64 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: by making the numbers that you apply with, notably the 65 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 2: SAT optional, but the point is it's unconstitutional. The left 66 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 2: has been wrong on this, and now we move forward. Okay, 67 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: on the cake situation, you know, the the bake, that cake. 68 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 3: Is what people always refer to this stuff, as. 69 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: You know. 70 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: I think this one shows you just how extreme actually 71 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: this is. Three to zero three creative is the case, 72 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: how extreme the left has gotten where they in the 73 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 2: state of Colorado want to make you have to right 74 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: things that you don't want to write on a cake. 75 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: They want to make you create things and engage in 76 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: creative enterprises for. 77 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: Things that you do not agree with. 78 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 2: And anyone who doesn't really understand what the game is 79 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: here and see what they've done to Masterpiece Cake Shop 80 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: where the guy I think his name is I think 81 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 2: his name is Jack Smith. I could be wrong on 82 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: that one, but the owner of Masterpiece Cake Shop team 83 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 2: check his name for me, so I get that one right. 84 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: And now I think I'm the special Counsel's Jack Smith. 85 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember this guy's name, but anyway, he's 86 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: had activists show up to make him make Satan cakes 87 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 2: and penis cakes and all of this stuff. Right, Yeah, 88 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: the point is to make everyone bend the knee. The 89 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: point is that the activists of the LGBTQ I A 90 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: plus plus plus community show up and say, oh, you 91 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,799 Speaker 2: think you were a believing traditionalist Christian, You're now gonna 92 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: play it Jack. 93 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 3: Phillips, Sorry, I knew it was Jack something. Jack Phillips. 94 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: I knew you're gonna rather, you're gonna play at rway 95 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 2: or else. And the Supreme Court has at least carved 96 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:50,679 Speaker 2: out a little bit. 97 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 3: Of religious freedom. 98 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: This is not a lot, but it has said that 99 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: religious freedom is not entirely dead. The funniest one is 100 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: that Joe Biden won Clay. Everybody knew this was illegal. 101 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 2: Everybody knew Joe Biden, including Yeah, I mean this is 102 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 2: one of those Obama did this too. If you remember 103 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: where they would say under the Obama administration, uh, you know, 104 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 2: I don't have the authority to do that, and then 105 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: they do it. And this has happened again with Joe 106 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,679 Speaker 2: Biden where it's clear to everyone he can't just wave 107 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: his his old Joe Biden hand and make these debts 108 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: go away. He's socializing them to the taxpayer, and he 109 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: doesn't have the authority to do it. So it's amazing 110 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 2: to see the left wing response to all this too 111 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 2: truly delusional stuff. And also the descents. I mean, I'm 112 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: just going to say, the descents from Jackson and so 113 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: of my or in the affirmative action case, we're embarrassing. 114 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 3: It's not just I disagree with. 115 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 2: Them, I mean they're they're logic, the emotion, all of it, 116 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: the lack of logic, it was embarrassing. And the legal 117 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 2: commentators who are trying to make the case for the 118 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: affirm for a. 119 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 3: Loan forgiveness also embarrassing themselves. 120 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and and and I do think this is a 121 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: cardon moment to step back and think about what Donald 122 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: Trump accomplished. He did exactly what he said he was 123 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: going to do on the Supreme Court. I don't think 124 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: there's a single person listening who could say that Trump 125 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: was anything other than a grand slam in a sports analogy. 126 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: When it came to the way that he put three 127 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: justices on the court and I know that they worked 128 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: with him to ensure that he had a list of 129 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: reliable justices. But when you look at Kavanagh, Gorsuch, and 130 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: Amy Cony Barrett, to me, they are preserving liberty in 131 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: a really significant way. Buck, Because just think I was 132 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: going through thinking about this, if Hillary Clinton had won 133 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, the Supreme Court of the United States 134 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: would have said that every working American basically could be 135 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: compelled to get the COVID shot as a condition of employment. 136 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: They would have said that, they would have said, affirmative 137 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: action is still law in the land. They would have 138 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: compelled this website designer to make websites for any person 139 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: that wanted to take her on as a as a 140 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: website designer. They would have fundamental not to mention, Roe v. 141 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: Wade wouldn't be back at the States the amount of 142 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: fundamental protection and sanity that has been restored just based 143 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: on that those three justices. Buck, think about how crazy 144 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: the world we would be living in would be right 145 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: now if Hillary Clinton had won in twenty sixteen and 146 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: she had made all three of these appointments. 147 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's also worth noting that right now 148 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 2: and the state of Michigan. 149 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 3: I feel badly. 150 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: We have a lot of listeners in Michigan and that 151 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: Gretchen Whittmer is their governor. I think that she's this. 152 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 2: I think you could say she's the second worst governor 153 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 2: in America. I actually think Kathy Hokeel may be the 154 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: worst at this point, Gavin Newsom, you like him too much? So, oh, 155 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: we got to talk about RFK. By the way, we 156 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: got an RFK junior problem. My friend, we got to 157 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: talk about this. Knew this was gonna happen by I 158 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: knew it. Don't underrate Pritzker on that's true. Well, but 159 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 2: back to Michigan just for a second. The Michigan House 160 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: has passed a bill making wrong pronouns a felony findable 161 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: up to ten thousand dollars if you intimidate somebody by 162 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: using quote wrong pronouns. I just want to ever understand 163 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: what this is. The Michigan House has passed a bill 164 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: that if you walk up to a three hundred pound 165 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: dude who has long hair and address on and you 166 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 2: say hey man or excuse me sir, and you refuse 167 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: to call her call him a he a she, you 168 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 2: can be fined up to ten thousand dollars and can 169 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 2: even result in prison time. This is the death of 170 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: the First Amendment, which is the death of freedom altogether 171 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 2: in this country. 172 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,119 Speaker 3: If this becomes thanks. 173 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 1: To the court that we have, it'll take a while 174 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: to get their bucket. It has to be used again 175 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: somebody first before it becomes actionable. 176 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: I bring it up not because I think they have 177 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: some brilliant legal strategy here that's going to manage to win. 178 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: But I will tell you, do you think that Soda, 179 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 2: my Ore and Jackson. Do you think that they would 180 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 2: overturn this? 181 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:16,599 Speaker 1: I do not. 182 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 3: I think they would come up with some Oh but 183 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 3: if you. 184 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 2: Use the wrong pronouns for somebody, you're erasing them as 185 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 2: a person, and so it's basically, you know, genocide. They 186 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 2: would come up with some version of the First Amendment 187 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 2: doesn't count if it defends the transgender community. And people 188 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: need to know about this because this is now pretty 189 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: common in this country. It's common enough that you have 190 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: to be on guard for it. The most fundamental freedoms, 191 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: the most basic constitutional freedoms aren't incidentally under assault. The 192 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:50,599 Speaker 2: left is waging and all out storm the trenches destroy 193 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 2: campaign for the most important liberties that we have and 194 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: they're doing it every day. 195 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: And I also want to mention, by the way, buck 196 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 1: we said that this would get struck down as unco institutional, 197 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: but Joe Biden and his advisors mostly knew this. This 198 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: was a calculated attempt to try to drive up young 199 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: voter turnout in the midterms, and now that it's been 200 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: struck down, Biden or whomever the nominee is going to 201 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: be will run against the illegitimacy of the Court and argue, hey, 202 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: if you want student loan debt relief, then you need 203 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: to vote for me so we can replace these justices 204 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: and or potentially pack the court, which is where I 205 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: think this is headed. 206 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: I do believe that court packing is on the dockets, 207 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 2: so to speak, for the next Biden term, if there 208 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 2: is one, I think that it would probably be Kamala 209 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 2: Harris appointing those justices. But nonetheless, I think that that 210 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 2: is absolutely why they create this. The narrative really now 211 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: is the court is illegitimate. That's what they say. You know, 212 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 2: when the Right was losing and the Democrats got used 213 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: to having the Supreme Court as on key cases for 214 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 2: a long time. They're super legislature they can't get it 215 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 2: through Congress, they'll get it through the court. They can't 216 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: get the people to vote for it, they will get 217 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: the justices to mandate it. 218 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 3: That's been really. 219 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 2: Clay for our you know, most of our adult lives, 220 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 2: that's been and even before we're paying attention to politics, 221 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 2: that's been the reality. Well that has finally changed, and 222 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 2: they're not acclimating to it. I remember what it was 223 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: like when conservatives felt like every time something important went 224 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: to the court, we were getting five four decisions against us. 225 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 2: Our attitude. You never heard the right talk about court packing. 226 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: You never heard the right talk about how. 227 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 3: Oh, but the Supreme Court doesn't count anymore, we're gonna. 228 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: It was all right, we've got to get better constitutionalist 229 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 2: justices the next time around. 230 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 3: We've got to work to educate the public. 231 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 2: But you know, our response to this is how do 232 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 2: we win within the system the next time around? The 233 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 2: left's responses tear it all down, you know, break into 234 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 2: the Apple store and loot it like they're doing it 235 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 2: in France right now. 236 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: Or Brett Kavanaugh. It's amazing how that just vanished, right Buck. 237 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you literally had a guy show up armed 238 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: outside of Brett Kavanaugh's house to try to murder him 239 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: so that he couldn't have the law that his vote 240 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: didn't count right after the Leak Supreme Court opinion. It's 241 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: amazing how that story just vanishes. Never happened before Leake 242 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: Supreme Court opinion and an attempted assassination to keep that 243 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: opinion from becoming the law of the land. If a 244 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: right winger had done that, it would be one of 245 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: the top two or three stories that gets run all 246 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: the time on the left news cycle. Instead, they just 247 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 1: pretend that that didn't happen. 248 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 3: It's it's true. We'll come back. We'll take a lot 249 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 3: of your calls. 250 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 2: It's Friday, after all, it's going into an Independence Day weekend. 251 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: So much to discuss here. Eight hundred two A two 252 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 2: two eight A two Clay, we are. 253 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 3: Going to have to you. We're a little we'll talk 254 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 3: about mister r. F K Junior. 255 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: I little think he may be the nominee for John All. 256 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 2: Right, we're going to have to have a little dis 257 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 2: little back and forth O. 258 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 3: RFK Junior. 259 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw what he said about 260 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 2: some of the stuff going on right now, but you've 261 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 2: got to stay with us, and we'll get into it. 262 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 2: There's an economist out there with an opinion that you 263 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 2: need to hear, issuing a strong warning. 264 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 3: Her name is Nomi Prince. 265 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 2: She says a small group of financial elites are plotting 266 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 2: drastic action unlike anything we've seen in fifty plus years 267 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: since nineteen seventy one. 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There 284 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 2: are some moments where something goes so viral online that 285 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: I think, Clay, everybody, at least everyone who's living this 286 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 2: online existence that we do, has to take note of it. 287 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: I am slightly familiar with this account, having seen before 288 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: this is on Twitter for everybody, having seen before a 289 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 2: lot of attacks on Republicans conservatives from it. It's it's 290 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: a young woman who goes by the handle Erica Report 291 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 2: and this this tweet I got. 292 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 3: I should check what it is now. 293 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: As of last night, I think it have been seen 294 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 2: six million times, so it's getting a lot of play. 295 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 2: She's a Democrat activist who has she her in her 296 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 2: profile bio. 297 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: Now. 298 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 2: I know there are some who are saying this is 299 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: a parody account. I can neither confirm nor deny. I 300 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: do not believe it as a parody, but I don't 301 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 2: know for sure. But this individual tweeted out today's Supreme 302 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 2: Court decision this is from yesterday, is a direct attack 303 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 2: on black people. No black person will be able to 304 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 2: succeed in a merit based system, which is exactly why 305 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 2: affirmative action based programs were needed. Today's decision is a travesty. 306 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 3: Now, This is just one. 307 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 2: Person, I understand, but a lot of people saw this 308 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 2: and were reminded of the quiet bigotry that often exists 309 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: on the left with regard to a lot of these 310 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 2: programs and stuff, which is that they say things either 311 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: in public or in private like this Clay to which 312 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: everybody else goes No. A lot of black people will 313 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 2: do fantastically, don't say crazy racist, weird things. 314 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 3: What is wrong with the libs? 315 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: Twenty two point three million people have seen that tweet, Buck. 316 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: That's one of the most viral tweets I've seen in months. 317 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it is sadly, as you said, emblematic of 318 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: what many white liberals believe, which is that minorities are 319 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: not capable of success in this country, and so that's 320 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 1: why the rules have to be bent and changed in 321 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: their favor, which is super racist. I mean, it just is. 322 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: It's it assumes inferiority. You remember that great viral video 323 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: the comedian I think it was Ryan Long did where 324 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: it was like, what what super woke people believe and 325 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: what super racist people believe, and it points out that 326 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: they actually have essentially many of the same beliefs. Because 327 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: I go in full. 328 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 2: Full there's an extreme a lot of white liberals, an 329 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 2: extreme condescension towards certain minorities came out unintentionally when they 330 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 2: were responding to that affirmative action case. 331 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: No doubt, do something good for yourself right now, buy 332 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: yourself a pair of my slippers from my Pillow while 333 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: they're on sell at twenty five bucks a pair, eighty 334 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: per plus percent discount off the regular price. You will 335 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:22,239 Speaker 1: love it. So many are buying these my slippers. They 336 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: are actually the number one selling my Pillow product. Now 337 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: guess what. Use our name's Clay and Buck. You can 338 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: get a twenty five dollars price on those slippers at 339 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: MyPillow dot com. My wife, I tell you this, she 340 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: is wearing them indoors as she studies for the bar 341 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: exam downstairs. Right now. You will love them. Go to 342 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 1: my pillow dot com, click on the radio listeners square 343 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: twenty five bucks. Usually they cost one nine ninety eight. 344 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: They're limiting them to ten pairs that check out. Enter 345 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: the promo code Clay and Buck eight hundred seven nine 346 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: to two thirty two sixty nine. Welcome back in Clay 347 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:11,640 Speaker 1: Travis Buck Sexton show. I want to play some of 348 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: the reactions on CNN and MSNBC, so that those of 349 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: you out there who probably are not spending very much 350 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: time watching CNN, R or MSNBC are aware of what's 351 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: being said. But before I do that, I want to 352 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: make sure that we don't forget the lovely ladies on 353 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: the view who consistently have the stupidest opinions anywhere in media. 354 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: Here's Whoope Goldberg yesterday reacting to the Supreme Court decision 355 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 1: ending affirmative actions in colleges and universities. 356 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 4: And there's a Washington Post poll that says more than 357 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 4: six and ten Americans oppose the use of race and 358 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 4: college admissions, however, and equally strong majority favorite efforts to 359 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 4: boost racial diversity on campus. A race it does matter, ever, 360 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 4: I think most of because agree there has to be reported. 361 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 5: But when you have a justice who says something as 362 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 5: ridiculous as I don't get it, it just makes a kid, 363 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 5: an Asian kid, and a Native American kid, a black kid, 364 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 5: feel like you don't matter, Like you didn't. You don't 365 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 5: understand why my struggle is hard, or your struggle or 366 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 5: your struggle. You know, is this leading to no women 367 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 5: in colleges soon? 368 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 2: I mean that that's amazing because there are more women 369 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 2: than men in college in America right now, women outperform 370 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,239 Speaker 2: men on average on the SAT and and you know, 371 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 2: women are taking over colleges. No women in colleges. This 372 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 2: is insane. But I also think Clay, a lot of 373 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 2: the affirmative action commentary that you hear from the from 374 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 2: the you know, the punditocracy out there, they just have 375 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: no idea what they're talking about when it comes to 376 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 2: how the system actually functions. They don't understand this whole part. 377 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 2: They think of this as you know, and you even 378 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 2: saw this in some of the sort of my ore 379 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 2: and and Jackson descents it. Well, this is about you know, 380 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 2: the legacy of slavery and all the suppression and okay, 381 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 2: what about Hispanics? 382 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and okay, what about Asians? 383 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 2: And what about Middle Easterners and what about you know, 384 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 2: go down the list, what about people who are you know, 385 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 2: come from the Pacific Islands like we have. There's a 386 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 2: point system they have for all these people, whether they 387 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 2: say it or not, and that's gross and it's unconstitutional. 388 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 3: But they keep falling into this. 389 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: Oh but what about what about all the racism in 390 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 2: America that exists and has existed in the past. 391 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 3: And you say, so. 392 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 2: An Asian you know, first generation or any Asian American 393 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 2: in this country, but an Asian first generation immigrant whose 394 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 2: parents arrive here penniless, he or she has to pay 395 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: the price for the history of American racism. 396 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 3: And and you know, the history of slavery one hundred 397 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 3: and fifty years ago. 398 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 2: That makes sense to somebody explain that one, like, it's 399 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 2: just it's delusional. 400 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. And by the way, on what pe Goldberg saying, 401 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: is this going to lead to know women in colleges? Buck? 402 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,479 Speaker 1: To your point, sixty percent of all college graduates are 403 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 1: women now sixty percent. It's I mean, that is a 404 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 1: staggering stock. I most people listening to us right now 405 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: we're not aware sixty percent of college graduates are now women. 406 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 1: So yes, this is not going to have. If anything, 407 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: there should be affirmative action for men so that we 408 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: get back closer to fifty to fifty. Okay, Buck, This 409 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: was CNN a anchor there, Sarah Sidner. I don't know her. 410 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: She says that the Supreme Court decision on free speech 411 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: today may well lead to the return of Jim Crow. Listen, 412 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: what is. 413 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 6: Your reaction to this and what the fallout may well 414 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 6: be a lot of people worrying about things like Jim Crow. 415 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 6: Could somebody decide that they want black folks to come 416 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 6: in the back door because they don't want them in 417 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 6: their store. I mean, how far might this go? 418 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: This is dumb on a level that is beyond dumb 419 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: even for CNN Buck look for people out there is 420 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: simply put, if you sell a product, anybody can walk 421 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: in and buy that product, no matter what their background 422 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,959 Speaker 1: is in the United States of America. But you cannot 423 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: mandate that someone use their unique and special talent that 424 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: you have to do something for them. This is like, 425 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: this is so simple, and yet they're trying to turn 426 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: it into something that is not remotely similar. 427 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 2: To I think it's very clear that if the ACLU 428 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 2: and the activist left really got their way, it would 429 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 2: be that, you know, Catholic or Protestant priests have to 430 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 2: do Satanic weddings. I mean if they, I mean eventually 431 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 2: down the line, it would be you know, you perform 432 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 2: this for other people, you do this for us you 433 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 2: and I know people say, oh, but what. 434 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 3: About the First Amendment right to religious liberty? They're trying 435 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 3: to destroy it. Folks. 436 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 2: They're actively trying to make your religious belief something that 437 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 2: you effectively have to hide, like Christians do in Saudi Arabia, 438 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 2: Like you can't do it out in public, you can't 439 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 2: wear a cruic bixs, you can't do all this stuff. 440 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,719 Speaker 2: They're also lined everybody about what's really an issue here. 441 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 2: I mean, that's the biggest part of it, refusing service 442 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 2: to a. 443 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 3: Gay couple is what they always say. 444 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 2: They leave out of this what I brought up, which 445 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 2: is that you have these activists. 446 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 3: Who go searching for I'm just gonna throw this out there. 447 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 2: There aren't that many evangelical cake makers in Colorado, right, 448 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I'm not saying there aren't a handful. 449 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 3: But this like you have to go and find one. 450 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 3: And they went and. 451 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 2: They found Jack Phillips Masterpiece cake Shop. And what they 452 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 2: don't report on is that they didn't just wanted to 453 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 2: make a cake for a gay wedding. They want them 454 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 2: to make satanic cakes. They want her to make graphic 455 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 2: sexual cakes. It was all just bend the knee. The 456 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 2: left gets to call the shots, and with this case 457 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 2: of the graphic designer, she has off the shelf products 458 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: for weddings. You can have the you know, the a 459 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 2: here's the template, you go, there's the website for your wedding. 460 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 3: But they can't make her go and use. 461 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 2: Her creative skills and her knowledge to do something that 462 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 2: is specific for a ceremony she doesn't agree with. So 463 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 2: it's a very narrow protection of religious freedom. And they 464 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 2: act like, you know, people are saying, what about the 465 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 2: return of Jim Crow, because if we don't have totalitarians 466 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 2: in the left, cries. I just want to understand. If 467 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 2: we don't live in a totalitarian society where the left 468 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 2: can be as anti God and can be as obsessed 469 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 2: with race as they possibly want, they're going to cry 470 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 2: and say that, you know, Hitler has come to America. 471 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: Here's another CNN discussion buck They said, because this website, 472 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: free speech case exists. Up next, interracial weddings aren't going 473 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: to be allowed. Listen to cut three. 474 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 3: Here. The court has found this is speech. 475 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 2: There is expressive content here, and therefore it is entitled 476 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 2: to First Amendment protection. 477 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 3: But that leads to all sorts of questions. How about 478 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 3: cater Is there an artistic expresses? 479 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: More laws? 480 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 3: This is what we're gonna see right, Absolutely. 481 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 7: I suppose this wedding website designer, when she actually does 482 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 7: go into business, can't say you can't come in the store, right, right. 483 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 7: And there are some things that maybe I could be 484 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 7: forced to do, but designing a website for a gay 485 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 7: wedding is not one of them, right. 486 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 3: I mean that was one of the hotly contested questions here. 487 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 3: Can she turn away? 488 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 2: Let's say if a biracial couple comes in or an 489 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 2: interracial couple comes in, right, And that's the concerned voice 490 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 2: in the dissent. 491 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 3: Where is the line here? 492 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: I don't see this as remotely difficult, Buck. If you 493 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: are skilled in some way, you aren't compelled to have 494 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: to service everyone and take it outside of this particular 495 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: kind of website. I owned a website that I sold OutKick. 496 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: Someone could look at my website, Buck and say, you 497 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: know what, I don't want to use my specific set 498 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: of skills to work on Clay Travis's website because I 499 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 1: disagree with the political opinions that are shared there. Good 500 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: for you. You should be able to make that choice. You 501 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: should be able to choose how you use your labor. 502 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: And again, this is not complicated to me, because let's 503 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: just say that you sell cakes that are already made. 504 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: It just says happy Birthday on it. Right. If you 505 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: go into a lot of places, they have these pre 506 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: made cakes. Right, you can just go buy a happy 507 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: birthday cake. Anybody should be able to buy that. But 508 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: when you have a unique talent and you are asked 509 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: to use that unique talent for something that you disagree with, 510 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: this doesn't seem challenging to me at all. You shouldn't 511 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: have to do it. You shouldn't be able to be 512 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: compelled to have to do something that you disagree with. 513 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: We all choose whether to sell our labor and use 514 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: our voice as we see fit. 515 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 2: I also think it's worth noting the same the exact 516 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 2: same people you see on TV, the same activists, the 517 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 2: same left wing legal organizations that are in a in 518 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,479 Speaker 2: a frenzy about oh my gosh. You know, if you 519 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 2: can't make this person use her creative talent for the 520 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 2: expression of a new website, you can't just buy one 521 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 2: of the websites she already has it and can buy. 522 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: We're heading back to you know, Jim Crow, whatever it 523 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 2: was that CNN analyst or anchor said, all these same 524 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: individuals we're making that those kinds of claims would agree 525 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 2: with the Michigan If you use the wrong pronoun, you 526 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 2: should probably be find ten thousand dollars. Just so you know, 527 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 2: just so everyone's clear on who they are, they think 528 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 2: that you should be fined ten thousand dollars because you 529 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 2: say that a man is a man. This is what 530 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 2: we're heading toward in society. This is the reality that 531 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 2: we face. So you know, we've got these are the 532 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 2: right Supreme Court decisions. But I also, Clay, I have 533 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: to stop and say the fact that these are even 534 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 2: things that have to be adjudicated, and that it's just 535 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 2: the beginning, shows you how far things have gone in 536 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 2: the other direction. 537 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 3: I mean, what really happened. 538 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 2: I mean, underlying the whole affirmative action situation is about. 539 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 3: Whatever twenty thirty years ago it was. 540 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 2: You can't have quotas, because we understand that's just wrong. 541 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 2: You can't have quotas. 542 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 3: So all the universities just set up stealth quotas. 543 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 2: They created all this flowery language about diversity and inclusion 544 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: and the benefits of a quotas. Yes, that's what they 545 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 2: were doing. Just whoever understands the whole thing was alive, 546 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 2: they set up quotas, which is why Harvard lost because 547 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 2: you could see the same number of black students, same 548 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 2: number of eight and students same you know, within a 549 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 2: percentage point or two Mathematically. Does anyone think that's the 550 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 2: way it's really going to go? 551 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: The problem is, Buck, you're well right here when we 552 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: talked about it yesterday, They're just going to keep doing 553 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: it and demand that they be sued. And you know 554 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: this is this is what I mean, a way to hide. 555 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 2: So while these are the right Supreme Court decisions. Okay, 556 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 2: so Biden can't just wave a magic wand and give 557 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 2: four hundred billion dollars to people that he thinks are 558 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 2: likely to vote for him, because he says so. The 559 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 2: fact that the President of the United States right now 560 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 2: took that action just goes to show you how lawless 561 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 2: he act actually is. 562 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, he doesn't care. 563 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: It's true. So you know what I mean, It's like 564 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: Iran to with the eviction moratorium. Buck, that was even crazier. 565 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: He said he didn't have the authority to do it himself, 566 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: and he did it anyway. That is one of the 567 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: most egregious acts imaginable. All his advisers told him he 568 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: couldn't do this. This was all political on student loan. 569 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 2: One thing that and you know, we'll get into some 570 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 2: of your calls here in a second, but I just 571 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 2: want to put this out there for everyone. 572 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 3: One thing that the Left has become really. 573 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 2: Really confident in doing on a regular basis as part 574 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 2: of the strategy is doing things that they no violate 575 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 2: core principles, that they no violate the Constitution, that they 576 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 2: know aren't going to survive judicial scrutiny. But they just figured, 577 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 2: let's get away with it as long as we can. 578 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: Yep. 579 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 2: Let's just see how long it takes to grind through 580 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 2: the system, how many people we can actually get to 581 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 2: just go along with our totalitarian instincts. That's what you say. 582 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,479 Speaker 2: It's huge with the two A with Second Amendment issues too. 583 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 2: They do the same thing and all these Blue states. 584 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: And then buck even nastier than that. They then say 585 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court's illegitimate when the Supreme Court actually ends 586 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: up and enforces the Constitution, which allows them to then 587 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: continue their argument, which is where we're headed. Let's be 588 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: clear that they're going to court pack and it's necessary 589 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: to add additional justices. 590 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: Yes, Democrats, the Party of Irrational Tantrums. Look, we're big 591 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 2: fans of Chalk, the all natural supplement company in Texas 592 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 2: and a sponsor of this program. They're patriots, they appreciate 593 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 2: independence and self reliance, and they make phenomenal products. 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All right, 610 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 2: welcome back to Clay and Buck. Uh just want to 611 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 2: remind you all please subscribe, become a VIP go to 612 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 2: Clayndbuck dot com and uh, if you're not already subscribe 613 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 2: to our podcast, you should do so. The iHeartRadio app 614 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 2: a great place to listen to the podcast, and you 615 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 2: can subscribe to Clay and Buck there. There's content that's 616 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 2: not available any any other way because while we do 617 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 2: this radio show, we're adding other things into that feed, 618 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 2: that stream. We want to take some of your calls 619 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 2: before we get to them, though. R f K Junior, 620 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say, we gotta we gotta have a 621 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 2: little little talk here, everybody, little talk about the latest 622 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 2: RFK Junior statements. 623 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 3: Weighing in on I Love Them, on COVID, on. 624 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 2: Some other stuff. We got to have a discussion. I'm 625 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 2: not saying it's it's all over. I'm just saying it's, 626 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 2: uh my my initial instincts about some things were correct. 627 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 2: We'll get to that, you know, coming up in the 628 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 2: next hour. So that's a few minutes out here. Plus Clay, 629 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 2: we did he is he is very buff though he 630 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 2: has that going for him super ripped. 631 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get super ripped one day, Buck, And like 632 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: I've said for a long time, just claim push up 633 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: set ups. That's what I did. 634 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,560 Speaker 3: I will tell you this, and I know about this. 635 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 2: I have some I have some friends who are and 636 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 2: I'm obviously not one of them. In the fitness industry, 637 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 2: you know, and the number of people who make, especially 638 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 2: later in life, radical transformations. I'm talking about forty or 639 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 2: fifty plus when they get in the best shape of 640 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 2: their life ever and they claim it's just from you know, 641 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 2: intermittent fasting, eating chicken breast and like doing enough deadlifts. No, 642 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 2: that's not That's not the only thing that's happening. I'm 643 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 2: just I'm just put out there. 644 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: You're more in the gym circuit than I am. Like 645 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: you're down in Miami and like these fancy gyms and stuff. 646 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 1: I can't get over the number of videos that people 647 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: take of themselves working out solo. 648 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 2: Now there is something called tripod squad and at the 649 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 2: gym where I go, where I wear a baggy T 650 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 2: shirt and try to mind my own business instead of 651 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 2: everyone's way. Just so I'm as like unobtrusive and and 652 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 2: you know, out of the way as possible. There are 653 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 2: women who put tripods down to film themselves working out 654 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 2: because they have millions of. 655 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 3: Followers on social media. 656 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: This is crazy to me. 657 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean, you know, it's a thing, 658 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 3: so yeah. 659 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I I don't know when this all started. 660 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: It seems crazy to me that I understand if you 661 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,720 Speaker 1: you know, are involved in a sport, or you're working 662 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,439 Speaker 1: out in a group, or even if you're doing like, hey, 663 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: I want to see if I can jump up you 664 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 1: know on this new you know, new height or something 665 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: like that. You've got a friend like holding it. But 666 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: the idea that you would like film your workouts and 667 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: like your squats and your bench presses, it's crazy to me. 668 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 3: It's a constant down here, I can say in Miami for. 669 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 2: A lot of other players. I've never seen it in 670 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 2: New York before, to be fair, but I. 671 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: See it on Instagram all the time when I scroll through. 672 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 1: It's just like mostly women, less than I mean, what 673 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: do you think ninety percent women doing this. 674 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 3: And they have millions of followers. Truly, how weird is that? 675 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 1: To be a dude watching a chick work out like that? 676 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 1: Seems super weird to me. 677 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 3: I don't know, man. Yeah, let's get to some calls. 678 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 3: Bill in Maine, Bill, what have you got for us? 679 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 8: Hello? There. Dennos's rush would say, this is very simply 680 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 8: a true free speech caase has nothing to do with 681 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 8: public accommodation or denial of service. If a gay person 682 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 8: comes in and ask for something just non controversial, or 683 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 8: is the person providing the service in this case content agrees. 684 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 2: With, there's no problem. 685 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 8: Similarly, if a straight person came in and demanded a 686 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 8: message that is counter to the beliefs of the provider, 687 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 8: under free speech, the person can deny the production of 688 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 8: that message. 689 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 2: It's a good point, Yep, that's correct. Your read on 690 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 2: this is correct, sir. Thanks for calling and Bill, We'll 691 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 2: get to some more calls in the next hour. So 692 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 2: are rent out of time there talking about tripod squad. 693 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,439 Speaker 1: I can't believe it. I can't believe this is real, 694 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: that this is happening everywhere. 695 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 2: Well, some people find ways to monetize it too. Yeah, 696 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 2: we are going to talk. I mean, hey, look at 697 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 2: all the look at all the media play RFK got 698 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 2: for doing like nine pushups, Clay, I'm just gonna throw 699 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 2: this out there. We're not seventy, but you and I 700 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 2: could both do nine push ups. I don't think it 701 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 2: would get millions of views. 702 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: I did it live on television. Buck tried to do uh. 703 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:55,840 Speaker 1: I think it was fifty unbroken. 704 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 3: How'd that go? 705 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,280 Speaker 1: Strict Not that well