WEBVTT - BONUS: Steve Nash Fired by Brooklyn Nets

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<v Speaker 1>You're tuned into heat Check with a quick on this

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<v Speaker 1>episode of This League. Oh, I mean the Heat Check.

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<v Speaker 2>We have breaking news. Alert Alert, we have breaking news.

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<v Speaker 3>Steve Nash Yoda has been fired by the Brooklyn Nets folks.

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<v Speaker 1>Let that sink in for a little bit. Let that

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<v Speaker 1>sink in for just two minute. Let it news in

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<v Speaker 1>your soul.

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Nash has been given his walking papers.

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<v Speaker 1>Me. I am speechless, I am shocked, befuddled.

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<v Speaker 2>But for a lot of new fans on the Heat Check,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a ton of history you probably don't know about

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<v Speaker 2>why this is such a big deal for the show.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like this should surprise anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>But let me tell you, I don't know a single

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<v Speaker 2>person who thought that this would happen seven games into

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<v Speaker 2>the season. But what I'm gonna do is take a

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<v Speaker 2>deep breath, relax, and break it all down for you.

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<v Speaker 2>He checks style, Nick Berlansky, you beautiful, thick walked man.

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<v Speaker 2>Drop that motherfucking beat.

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<v Speaker 1>Alright, alright, alright, alright.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not someone who dances on graves. I'm not a

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<v Speaker 2>person that beats on dead horses.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a person who celebrates.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone losing their job, And I'm not talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>scumbags like Matt Lower or Roger Ayles. Those guys I

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<v Speaker 2>do celebrate their demise, but usually this kind of news

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<v Speaker 2>is like, ah, he was so sweet, he gets to

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<v Speaker 2>go back to Manhattan Beach. Now, man, you got a

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<v Speaker 2>raw deal. And to be fair, I do sort of

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<v Speaker 2>feel bad for Steve Nash.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not celebrating or dancing on his grave.

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<v Speaker 2>Over the fact that he lost his job after two

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<v Speaker 2>years about a cup of coffee, even though.

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<v Speaker 1>I did say it's a bad match, it's a bad decision,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bad decision.

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't really about Steve Nash though, as it really

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<v Speaker 2>is about Internet culture, in cell culture, douchebag culture, and

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<v Speaker 2>how they basically these in cells and coworkers.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they're both.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, try to end my fucking career because

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<v Speaker 2>I had.

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<v Speaker 1>The kahonas the stones to.

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<v Speaker 3>Suggest that maybe, just maybe Brooklyn should not have hired

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<v Speaker 3>Steve Nash. Maybe Brooklyn was not the best fit for

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<v Speaker 3>a guy who had never coached a single game in

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<v Speaker 3>his life or assisted on the bench, even was in

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<v Speaker 3>the second row on the bench in his entire life,

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<v Speaker 3>not one game. And how maybe handing the keys to

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<v Speaker 3>the Castle to the most exciting franchise with to the

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<v Speaker 3>big superstars in the league at the time, to an

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<v Speaker 3>untested candidate when there were numerous qualified coaches with tons

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<v Speaker 3>of experience staying in line waiting in line, many of

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<v Speaker 3>them black coaches, which that's important to note, was maybe

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<v Speaker 3>not a good idea, especially when we're going through a

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<v Speaker 3>national race debate spurred on by George Floyd.

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<v Speaker 2>I know what a fucking maverick eye was to say that,

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<v Speaker 2>what a fucking go out on a limb person. I was,

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<v Speaker 2>how could you be so brave?

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<v Speaker 1>I at the time. People were very bad. At the time.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, what are you saying? People are like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we all knew that. Now he's fired, and they was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very obvious.

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<v Speaker 2>People were standing for Steve Nash when his dumbass was

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<v Speaker 2>rolling out Blake Griffin in the playoffs last year after

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<v Speaker 2>being down three zero. Maybe experiment a little earlier before

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<v Speaker 2>getting swept.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. I even said I like him, he

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<v Speaker 1>could be successful. I don't know. I gave him the

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<v Speaker 1>better for the down, said maybe he'll be successful.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, these two aren't players are very talented. I

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<v Speaker 2>do know other smart point guards were unqualified and they

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<v Speaker 2>got jogged out much in some past. Those guys did

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<v Speaker 2>coach on the bench before, though it wasn't like they

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<v Speaker 2>came out of the fucking like beach bum like.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like literally, I still have sun blocks still on

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<v Speaker 1>their face.

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<v Speaker 2>This is like still has maple syrup and bottles of

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<v Speaker 2>maple syrup in their pockets.

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<v Speaker 1>Like this dude hasn't done anything.

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<v Speaker 2>He played basketball and then he went into obscurity, had

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of divorces, maybe just one couple of kids,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was that. But I did think it was

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<v Speaker 2>a bad idea, you know what I mean. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was a bad bad optics.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what optics. Bad optics is bad look, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a bad look.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't matter what it is, doesn't matter if he turns

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<v Speaker 2>out okay, does actually matter, But at the time didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really matter.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought maybe it would be good.

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<v Speaker 2>So I blogged this, right, I blog this. I was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to be funny too, like I'm trying to be now.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe won't land today, Maybe you won't land today. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>have to see. I call them the most problematic hiring

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<v Speaker 1>sense Fred Hoiberg and people got very mad.

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<v Speaker 2>Couple of people from the South called me on a

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<v Speaker 2>radio station hours and skewered.

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<v Speaker 1>Me, how could you say this?

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<v Speaker 2>We got into a conversation about white privilege and whether

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<v Speaker 2>it exists.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't want to talk about that, did not did not Internet.

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<v Speaker 2>Started a blaze Reddit threads calling for my firing.

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<v Speaker 1>Thought I might actually be fired. Ever, wonder why my.

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<v Speaker 2>Podcast is a two point two rating on Apple and

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<v Speaker 2>a four point seven on Spotify.

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Nash, Ben Simmons, that's it. Philly and inceels Philly

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<v Speaker 1>and racist in cels. That's what I mean. Maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 1>some overlap there. Who knows?

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<v Speaker 2>Thousands of them thousands left one star?

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<v Speaker 1>Rebuse Do you ever look at the podcast?

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<v Speaker 2>If you listen to this podcast, go on Apple and

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<v Speaker 2>see it's either five stars or one star.

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<v Speaker 1>Wonder why this is? Why?

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<v Speaker 2>So this feels cathartic to me. It feels like the

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<v Speaker 2>chickens coming home to cook. Look, roost, I was right,

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<v Speaker 2>I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Right about both knowing. Will ever give me respect over it?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? What all that matters is what's in my soul?

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<v Speaker 2>And with the record book says the fact that Ben

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<v Speaker 2>Simmons contributed to getting Steve Nash fired is.

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<v Speaker 1>Gold for me, gold for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Turns out being a woman and being right seems to

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<v Speaker 2>infuriate the Incels.

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<v Speaker 1>But it wasn't just the trolling mob. It wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>It was coworkers. They helped whip the mob into a frenzy.

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<v Speaker 2>They gained clout from whipping up the mob, and they

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<v Speaker 2>sold T shirts. They made T shirts calling Trista doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>know basketball. They tried to get my podcast canceled from

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<v Speaker 2>inside the own company. They were literally in my foxhol throwing,

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<v Speaker 2>throwing fucking shells at me, all to garner favor with

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of trolls that they just wanted to like

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<v Speaker 2>them for who knows why, probably another ten thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>on their paycheck for the year, because that's what insecure

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<v Speaker 2>bros do and that's what trolls do. So yeah, had

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<v Speaker 2>to get that off my chest.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it came off well. So it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>It's interesting Charms is reporting that the parting was mutual.

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<v Speaker 1>Woach says he was fired. I think he was fired personally.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, Nash doesn't seem like the kind of guy who's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm out, let me go, Please let me go. I

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<v Speaker 2>can never coach this group. These people tried to tell

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<v Speaker 2>me when he was hired that he.

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<v Speaker 1>Was the ultimate consummate communicator. He was the number one

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<v Speaker 1>team builder. Doesn't appeer he built the team. Does not

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<v Speaker 1>appear that worked.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, he had plenty of chances to bail already.

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you what. He handled it diplomatically.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't count on though, Kevin Durant.

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<v Speaker 2>When Kevin Durant said I want this fucker fired and

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<v Speaker 2>they said no, that Kevin Durant wasn't like, well, let

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<v Speaker 2>me do it my own self like Kevin Durant always does.

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin Durant's like, let me put the team on my back.

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<v Speaker 2>And get this shit done. And you know what he did.

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<v Speaker 2>That did that for Steve Nash too. You got to go.

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<v Speaker 1>He played zero defense.

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<v Speaker 2>He had the worst plus minus in the entire NBA

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<v Speaker 2>in seven games, shocking to no one.

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<v Speaker 1>Nash, though, here's the thing, he was just never the

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<v Speaker 1>right guy. Even when things were going as good as humanly.

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<v Speaker 2>Possible, when they were one foot step away for making

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<v Speaker 2>it and winning the whole damn thing, because.

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<v Speaker 1>They probably would have beaten the Suns.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's be honest, it was still not going well.

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<v Speaker 1>Really.

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<v Speaker 2>Even then, Nash struggled with his rotations, his substitutions, understandings,

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<v Speaker 2>the ebbs, and the flows of the game.

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<v Speaker 1>From a coaching.

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<v Speaker 2>Standpoint, that's hardly indictment on him, since I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Check's notes, hasn't coached before ever on any level.

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<v Speaker 1>Does he have a little binder full of plays? Probably not.

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<v Speaker 2>The season ended because Kevin couldn't carry the team another minute,

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<v Speaker 2>because Steve Nash put six players in an ot closeout

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<v Speaker 2>game against Jonnis. There's a reason Kevin Durrant bawled out

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<v Speaker 2>and air bowled his last shot in O T because

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<v Speaker 2>he was exhausted. Playing for Steve Nash meant you had

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<v Speaker 2>to play off the minutes. He was going to let

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<v Speaker 2>these players ball till the wheels fell off.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not coaching, folks, That's called.

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<v Speaker 2>Being vintage Tom Thibodeau. And we probably should have seen

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<v Speaker 2>it coming when Mike D'Antoni, the creator of the offense

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<v Speaker 2>that Steve Nash decided to run, when he won two MVPs,

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<v Speaker 2>when Harden won multiple MVPs, he was like, I am.

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<v Speaker 1>Out of here. After one season, there were multiple rumors.

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<v Speaker 2>Floating around about why and how he wasn't a fan

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<v Speaker 2>of the way that Steve Nash coached last year, absolute clusterfuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Harden was like, yeah, I know I asked to be here,

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<v Speaker 2>but I want to get out of here. Get me

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<v Speaker 2>out of here. The Nets then get Ben Simmons, who

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<v Speaker 2>never suits hip in an entire game season, then get

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<v Speaker 2>swept this offseason. We already know what that was, most

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<v Speaker 2>toxic offseason in their history.

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<v Speaker 1>His legacy, this part I have to say say I'm

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<v Speaker 1>conflicted about because I hate it for Steve Nash, but

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<v Speaker 1>I love it for me.

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<v Speaker 2>His legacy will be remembered as a failure, starting.

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<v Speaker 1>With Kyrie going on walk about not knowing where he was.

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<v Speaker 1>How did he not know where he was? How did

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<v Speaker 1>he not know.

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<v Speaker 2>To call him and say where are you at? Did

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<v Speaker 2>he just not answer? If your star player's not answering

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<v Speaker 2>the head coaches calls or text we got problems? Doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>get vaccinated. You guys already know you already know what

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<v Speaker 2>it was. Was Nash responsible for this calamity? No, but

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't help it either. This team needs a daddy

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<v Speaker 2>and all they got was a substitute teacher trying to

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<v Speaker 2>be their best friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Yoda.

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<v Speaker 2>So Nash has gone now, and I've got questions why now.

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<v Speaker 1>Why they do it now? Why not in the off season?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Jacques Vaughan is now the interim head coach. Back to

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<v Speaker 2>the circle that is Jacques Vaughan. Jacquevond gets done so wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>gets done so dirty in the process. He always has

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<v Speaker 2>to be an interim coach. He's always awesome. They never

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<v Speaker 2>hire him full time. Shams though, now is reporting that

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<v Speaker 2>e may Udoka will be taking over and hired as

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<v Speaker 2>the coach of the Brooklyn Nets.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 2>Remember when everyone told me Emai Udoka would never coach again.

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<v Speaker 2>Turns out not only will he coach again, not only

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<v Speaker 2>will he be a head coach again, he might coach

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<v Speaker 2>the Brooklyn Nets.

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<v Speaker 1>Tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna talk about that Portland stand up. Portland's back

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<v Speaker 2>on the map. If emay Udoka gets this job, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>tell you what I I will feel good for my city.

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<v Speaker 2>The one one or who knows, maybe more indiscretions didn't

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<v Speaker 2>stop this man from doing what he does best, which

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<v Speaker 2>taking a bunch of young men and turned him in

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<v Speaker 2>discipline monsters who played defense and go to the finals.

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<v Speaker 2>Does hiring e may you mean that Kevin Durant will

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<v Speaker 2>stay does it mean that Kyrie will straighten up?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. One thing is for certain. If anyone

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<v Speaker 1>can do it, it's emy.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened in Brooklyn was not Steve Nash's fault, but

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<v Speaker 2>that obscures the most important fact.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, I'll say it again. I'll say it again. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>say it again.

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<v Speaker 2>The Brooklyn Nets should have never hired Steve Nash in

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<v Speaker 2>the first place, and even more so. And maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>think this is me making it about me and not

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<v Speaker 2>about the news, but you know what, this is personal.

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<v Speaker 2>I was fucking right, and no amount of cyber bullying,

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<v Speaker 2>no amount of T shirts, no amount of coworker conspiracies

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<v Speaker 2>will ever stop me from planting my flag boom from that.

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<v Speaker 2>They will not chase me away from my truth. Unlike

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Nash, Unlike Ben Simmons, I'm not going to goddamn place.

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<v Speaker 1>This league.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all the time that we have for the emergency

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<v Speaker 1>We out this bitch.