1 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: Ye, man, this cross will tell you what appeared to 2 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: be a Jefferson County police officer shot in the back 3 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: of our building. He end that movie, It is one 4 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,080 Speaker 1: of us. They have got one down and they just 5 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: look bad. It looks bad you. 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 2: In nineteen ninety five, Detective Tony Richardson was trying to 7 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 2: figure out who killed a fellow officer, Deputy Bill Hardy. 8 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 3: Had it been my decision the day we caught the 9 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 3: people that did it, Let's let's put them on death. 10 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: Throat Without solid evidence, the case comes down to who 11 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 2: is believed and who is ignored. 12 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 4: Evidence wise, we had versually no evidence. We had the 13 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 4: word of a fifteen year old who told lies, a 14 00:00:58,280 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 4: lot of lies. 15 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 5: She said she was there and I was there. That's 16 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,639 Speaker 5: a life, a life, that's a shame. 17 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: When the deputy was shot at the hotel, to Forest 18 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 2: Johnson was four miles away, but now he's on death row. 19 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 6: This case is all about alternative worlds that are in 20 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 6: conflict with each other and in conflict with truth and 21 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 6: in conflict with what our justice system stands for. 22 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 4: We had a weak case based on testimony in one witness. 23 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 5: The only evidence supposedly they had against was this ear 24 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 5: witness who had never heard him speak before, who had 25 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 5: no idea who he was. 26 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 7: And I just started sobbing, like uncontrollable because I was like, oh, 27 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 7: my goodness, we did connect to an innocent man and 28 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 7: he's been on death row all these years and I 29 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 7: didn't know it. 30 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: I'm Beth Shelburne from Lava for Good Podcasts. This is 31 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: ear Witness. 32 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 8: The best thing that a person probably can do for 33 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 8: themselves that's suspected of a crime is do not talk to. 34 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 4: The bout these period. 35 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: Now that's really interesting coming from a retired detective, but 36 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: that's the truth. Listen to Earwitness starting on September nineteenth 37 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get 38 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: your podcasts, and to hear episodes one week early with 39 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: no ads, Subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple 40 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: Podcasts