1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: On this episode of Newts World, I'm joined by members 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: of my Inner Circle Club for a fascinating conversation about 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: a wide range of issues and topics on their minds. 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: We hold these regular video conference calls so that we 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: can have an honest discussion about what is happening in 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: America today. I find it extraordinarily helpful to me personally 7 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: and helping think through the issues that are facing us. 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: So I hope you'll find this episode of Newts World informative, 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: and if you'd like to become a member of my 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: Inner Circle Club, please go to newts Inner Circle dot 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: com and sign up for a one or two year 12 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: membership today. I'm really pleased. This is a guest Vivak Remiswamy, 13 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: who has actually done several podcasts. He's always interesting. He 14 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: is now a Republican candidate for president. He is a 15 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: former biotech CEO and America Business Leader, New York Times 16 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: bestselling author of two books, Woke Ink and Nation of Victims. 17 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: Born and raised in Cincinnati, Ohio, he was a nationally 18 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: ranked tennis player. Valedictorian of his high school. Went to 19 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: Harvard majored in biology, graduated simonicum laude, and he received 20 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: his law degree from Yale Law School. While working at 21 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: a hedge fund, he started the biotech company Royvan Sciences, 22 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: where he oversaw the development of five drugs that went 23 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: on to become FDA approved. In twenty twenty two, he 24 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: founded Strive, an Ohio based asset management firm that directly 25 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: competes with asset managers like black Rock, State Street, Vanguard, 26 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: and others companies who used the investment dollars of everyday 27 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: citizens to advance environmental and social agendas the many citizens 28 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: and capital owners disagree with. And I should say, he's 29 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: done all of this, and he is only thirty seven 30 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: years old, so from my perspective, he has a long 31 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: career ahead of him. But he's not exactly hanging out 32 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: doing nothing. His campaign website, which all of you should note, 33 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: is two two four dot com. Let's v v e 34 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: K two O two four dot com. And I think 35 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: you're going to find it a fascinating thing to watch. 36 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: First of all, VEC welcome. Let me just toss it 37 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: to you from Ante. I have to confess the two 38 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: times we were together for a podcasts, you were fascinating. 39 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: You clearly were critical of the current system, but it 40 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: didn't quite occur to me that at thirty seven you'd 41 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: be running for president. So I think you ought to 42 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: start and tell us why so nude. I just think 43 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: we're in the middle of this national identity crisis where, yes, 44 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: most people my age, you brought in my age, but really, 45 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: ask people any age in this country what does it 46 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: even mean to be an American? Today? You get a 47 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: blank stare in response, And I think that is a problem. 48 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: I think that's actually the vacuum at the heart of 49 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: our national soul when faith, patriotism, hard work, family, these 50 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: things have disappeared, and that's what allows vokeism or gender ideology, 51 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: or climb or covidism to fill the void, because human 52 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 1: beings still have a need to believe in something higher. 53 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: Yet we can't even answer the question of what it 54 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: means to be a citizen of this nation. And so 55 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: that's why I decided rather than just doing what even frankly, 56 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: I'm not going to blame other conservatives, I'll even just 57 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: blame myself rather than what I've been doing for much 58 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: of the last several years of just complaining about that problem. 59 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: And I do think there's a role for identifying a 60 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: problem that other people don't see and seeing it with 61 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: clear eyes, that's fine. But we've done that. Now, how 62 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: do we actually deliver a solution? And I think the 63 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: right answer isn't just to stamp out the poison one 64 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: at a time. It's to go upstream and fill that 65 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: black hole, fill that void with the vision of American 66 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: national identity that runs so deep that it dilutes this 67 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: woke agenda to irrelevance. And I want to do it 68 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: in a way that doesn't drive us to a national divorce, 69 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: but drives us to a national revival. And so, if 70 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm being blunt about it, my wife and I did 71 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: talk about the fact that shouldn't I be more trade 72 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: and educated and prepared for even a job like this 73 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: if I wanted to take it on twenty years from now, 74 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: And in some ways you can't debate that that's almost 75 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: by definition true. But I think we live in this 76 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: moment where actually there's room for somebody who comes in 77 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: from the outside who did what Trump did, by the way, 78 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, which I respect to say that I'm 79 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: not going to take the norms of a broken and 80 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: even in some ways corrupt system for granted, I'm going 81 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: to actually just bring in my question of what is right, 82 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: deliver what's right doing a way that's nationally unifying, unifying, 83 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: Not by showing up in the middle and saying can't 84 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: we all compromise and hold hands and sing Kumbaya guys. No, No, 85 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: not that kind of national unity, fake national unity, actual 86 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: national unity. By embracing the radicalism, the extremism. Dare I 87 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: say of the ideas that set this nation into motion 88 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty years ago, from meritocracy to excellence, 89 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: to free speech and open debate, to self governance over aristocracy, 90 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: to even the rule of law itself. Embrace those basic 91 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: ideas that bind us together across our different shades of melanin. 92 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: You know, you have a different skin color than I do, 93 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: So what who cares about that kind of diversity? If 94 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: there's nothing greater that binds us together across that diversity. 95 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: I actually believe those ideals that bind us together still exist. 96 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: We've forgotten them, we can't see them because we've been 97 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: taught that we're divided. I believe pretty deep in my 98 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: bones that those ideals still exist, and I'm running for 99 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: president to revive them. I'm fascinating, partly because you're obviously 100 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: really smart. I mean, you didn't get through Harvard and 101 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: Yale at the level you did without some reasonable like you. 102 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: But in addition, you're astonishingly successful. I mean it's important 103 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: for people remember well. And I'm not going to emphasize 104 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: your youth, because obviously I'm not your age, But I 105 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: do think it's interesting that you're at a point in 106 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: your life where you have been so successful scientifically, so 107 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: successful in founding a company, so successful, and then founding 108 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: financial investment firm, so you can afford to do this, 109 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: and you bring to the game all the lessons you've 110 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: learned of leadership and of managing people and of getting 111 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: things done. How do you think that changes your approach 112 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: from normal people. I think it helps me in two ways. 113 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: I mean, one is, you have a lot of Republicans 114 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: theorizing about shutting down the administrative state, gutting departments. I've 115 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: called for the abolition of the Department of Education. Others 116 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: have joined me. I'm not going to shut down the FBI. 117 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: Outhers haven't joined me on that one. I didn't go 118 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: shut down the FBI and replace it with something new, 119 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: built from scratch. Yes, I went to Yelaw School, so 120 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: I have a deep understanding of the Constitution. You would 121 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: think you would hope for how much you pay to 122 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: go through that education, and I've been a scholar of 123 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: it afterwards. My books are you know, some of them 124 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: are certainly legally well grounded. But I combined that not 125 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: as an academic, but somebody who's been a chief executive. 126 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: And so I'll explain this view of Article two of 127 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: the Constitution to you. Okay, I've been a chief executive before. 128 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: If somebody works for you and you can't fire them, 129 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: that means they don't work for you. It means you 130 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: work for them because you're responsible for what they do 131 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: without having any authority over it whatsoever. That means that 132 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: a lot of those civil service protections, if they're going 133 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: to be read so expansively, we don't need to do 134 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: some sort of schedule F exception. To be cute about this, 135 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: and I'm referring to, you know, a good step that 136 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: the Trump administration took it the tail end of its term. 137 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: We need to take a strong view of article too 138 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: of the Constitution that says you fire them. And I 139 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: don't think that article too the meaning says that you 140 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: can create agencies that don't exist if Congress hasn't budgeted. 141 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: But it's a one way ratchet that says that if 142 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: you do run the federal government, you know that's going 143 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: to be waste, fraud, and abuse, or somebody that works 144 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: for you that's going to undermine the objectives of effectuating 145 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: the laws of the United States. You absolutely have constitutional 146 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: authority and even a constitutional duty to do with the 147 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: one thing a chief executive ought to do with the 148 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: next Anthony Fauci or Merrick Garland or James Come. You 149 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: fire them, You fire the legions of people under them, 150 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: You dismantle the managerial industrial complex around them. So I 151 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: think that's one of the things that's different from me. 152 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: The other thing that frankly, my success in living the 153 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: AMA Dream allows me to do in the financial sense 154 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: of this is to not be tethered to the donor 155 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: class in this country. I did not ask for anyone 156 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: for permission to run. I did not friendly with Donald Trump. 157 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: We'll have a great relationship. I didn't ask him for 158 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: permission to run. But I also didn't go to a 159 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: bunch of Republican donors and asked them for permission to 160 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: run either ringing a tin can with a hat in hand, 161 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: and that liberated me from that process. And I saw 162 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: firsthand even this last weekend why that's important. One of 163 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: the things I wrote an opened in the Wall Street 164 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: Journal that ran in print yesterday, which made what was 165 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: initially an unpopular case but I think is now hopefully 166 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: becoming more popular, that the federal government should not have 167 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: been bailing out and it was a bailout these Silicon 168 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: Valley bank depositors tech companies. The government lied, they said, 169 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: it's not a bailout. I think you had to see 170 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: through it. It wasn't a bailout of Silicon Valley Bank, 171 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: but it was a bailout of Silicon Valley tech companies 172 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: that had made rash decisions putting money at a bank 173 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: that they shouldn't have put that much money in that then, 174 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: when in their hour of need, went to the federal 175 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: government for help and got it. I criticized that decision. 176 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you something I lost. And these are 177 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: billionaires who called me over the weekend, I mean many 178 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: of them, countless people trying to influence me because I 179 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: was a public voice on this, especially after I published 180 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 1: in the Journal on Sunday to say no, no no, no, 181 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: you got it all wrong. Throwing arguments like spaghetti against 182 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: a wall. It actually gave me greater conviction. And why 183 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: it has to be an outsider that's untethered to those 184 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: interests because many of those people were going to be 185 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: would be supporters of my campaign potentially in big ways. 186 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: And you know what, I stuff to stick with what 187 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: I believe. I lost that that was painful. It didn't 188 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: leave me feeling very happy. There's something about going through 189 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: it that you're thinking. You feel good when you something 190 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: like that happens. You don't when you're running a race 191 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: to the top amount everest. But it's going to take 192 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: people who actually share my convictions to fill that void instead, 193 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 1: just for a second, because you know these people much 194 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 1: better than I do. What is the argument of a 195 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: high tech billionaire as to why everyday working Americans should 196 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: cover their stupidity? They tried every argument in the book. 197 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: Nude first was this is the most uristic, but the 198 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: most honor. They said, Hey, the k you should know better. 199 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: You know, we're the engine of innovation. I'm just telling 200 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: you stuff they told me over the weekend. Okay, you know, 201 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: and you talk about China all the time on how 202 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: the US needs to be more competitive, Well, why would 203 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: you make us less competitive because you know we're the 204 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: bleeding edge of American innovation. That's bogus, and said that, 205 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: you know what, if we're the bleeding edge of American 206 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: innovation led by people who are buffoons concentrating four and 207 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 1: eighty million dollars in one bank, in Silicon Valley Bank 208 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: because they helped you with some personal favors and that 209 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: was part of Silicon Valley Bank's model for winning business, 210 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: I said, then they are probably not the leaders in 211 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: American innovation. So they say, Okay, that argument didn't work, 212 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: So they try a different argument with me. Okay, okay, 213 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: this guy's oh he's populist conservative, Okay, let me try 214 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: an argument that works with him. Then, hey, no, no, 215 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: this is about small businesses and workers in the American economy. 216 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: People aren't going to be able to make payroll. Bogus 217 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: argument again, because you know what, if you're a startup 218 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: company that has a viable business model that was the 219 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: same business model three weeks ago, Okay, it hasn't changed. 220 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: So that means that if your CFO made a big 221 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: screw up and gave money to a bank that weigh 222 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 1: too much concentration in a bank that he shouldn't have 223 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 1: concentrated in. Well, venture investors can still put in more 224 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: money because your business model supposedly still works right now. 225 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: That's painful if you're a CEO or a founder or 226 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: even an existing venture capitalist, because you take equity dilution, 227 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: which means you make less money upon success. That's not 228 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: a reason for a bailout. So then they pontify these 229 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: workers and say, no, no no, no, we'd have to lay 230 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: off these workers. That's bunk. It's a lie. But it 231 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 1: takes somebody who's able to see through this. And I'm 232 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: gonna be very honest with this man. I've already put 233 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: in eight figures into my campaign already, but it's going 234 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: to take a whole movement to fill the wake of 235 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: that billionaire class in Silicon Valley and elsewhere that would 236 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: have otherwise been supporters. And that's why I've gotten better 237 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: at this. I wasn't good at this on day one, 238 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: but I've gotten better at this, And just asking for help, 239 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: do we have some questions, mister speaker, good evening, and 240 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: mister Ramaswami. I just storted your new book and actually 241 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: just arrived and I can't wait to read it. It 242 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: struck me that for years a lot of these big 243 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: corporations were giving out politically correct messages to appease those 244 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: customers of theirs who were oversensitive and might boycott them. 245 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: But now I turn around and look that these corporate 246 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: bigwigs really have these deeply woke ideologies. And corporations to 247 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 1: me were always you know, people are about to make 248 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: money and the big gruff corporate fat cats and they're 249 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: not woke. So how did this change happen? And when 250 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: to let me reveal what's actually going on behind the 251 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: scenes that's topped down. It's actually the ESG movement in 252 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: this country, right, And you see this more in public 253 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: companies than private ones. Why because the top shareholders of 254 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 1: almost all public companies in the United States are three institutions, 255 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: Black Rock, State Street, and Vanguard. They're using the money. 256 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: I would venture to say, probably of most people on 257 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: this call to tell American companies to invest in those companies, 258 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: but to tell them that we the shareholders, are demanding 259 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: that you adopt these environmental or social goals or else 260 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: will dock your pay as CEO or else we might 261 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: even fire you from your board seat. And so that's 262 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: actually the top down fource that turned upside down the 263 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: model of the nineteen nineties, where the ninety nineties you 264 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: would have said that if the CEO is using corporate 265 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: resources to advance a social agenda, the shareholders are to discipline. 266 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: But now they've turned that game upside down and they said, 267 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: we are the shareholders Black Rock or Vanguard, and we 268 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: demand that you adopt a Scope three emissions cap if 269 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: you're Chevron, even though you didn't want to in twenty 270 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: twenty one, or that you adopt a racial equity audit 271 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: if your Apple or Home Depot in twenty twenty two, 272 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: even though those companies initially didn't want to. So that's 273 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: actually where the secret invisible hand behind the scene comes from, 274 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: is from the black Rocks and state streets of the 275 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: world and make government favors in response. So that's this 276 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: ESG cancler that I've focused on not only exposing but 277 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: also trying to defeat through the market. I started Strive. 278 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: It was the only in leading effort to actually take 279 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: this on. Strive crossed over half a billion dollars in 280 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: the first three months after launching its first fund because 281 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: of this hunger that people have. Once you're educated on this, 282 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: it's hard to unsee. But I think that's a big 283 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: part of the problem. Now. I think that there's a 284 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: demand side to it, too, right, It only works if 285 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: you have a general populace in a culture in America 286 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: that's willing to buy up what they're selling. That's what 287 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: I want to fix my running for the presidency through 288 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: this broader cultural revival. That's great. Hi, I'm from Atlanta, Georgia, 289 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: a little bit north New Good evening. Simple question, the 290 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: US has lost standing on the world stage. We are 291 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: not where we used to be. Why should jijiin king 292 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: and Vladimir frutin respect or hopefully fear you well, thank 293 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: you for saying that. I believe that we should actually 294 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: use US military resources to who would have ever thought 295 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: protect the United States? And so one of the first 296 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: things that I'll do in office, and I've actually been 297 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: the first candidate by far who has pledged to do this, 298 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: though I hope and expect that others will catch on too, 299 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: is to say, look, we have an ability to use 300 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: a justified use legally, morally and ethically justified use of 301 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: military force to protect our own border and to solve 302 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: the Fennel crisis. I was actually just talking to somebody 303 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: about this shortly before this call. I think we should 304 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: be able to do to the cartels what we did 305 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: on the other side of the world. To isis to 306 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: al Zawahiri, to Slamani, to Bin Laden, because those are 307 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: actually narco terrorists that are undermining the United States from within. 308 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: And I think that does a couple of things. Of course, 309 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: it solves the Fennel crisis, which is supply driven. And 310 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: I think that I just refuse as an America I'm 311 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: talking to you from Central Ohio today, I just refuse 312 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: to sit by passively and watch one hundred thousand deaths 313 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: per year level in a homelessness crisis driven by a 314 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: problem that we can actually solve. That just irks me. 315 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: I refuse to just watch with passivity. But I think 316 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: it also sends a signal for what we're actually willing 317 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: to do to protect American interests. The other thing I've 318 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: called for it, and I think this is not going 319 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: to be easy, but I think we're going to do 320 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: it is actually declare independence from communist China. I think 321 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: that is the you know, I know our host today 322 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: is a historian and a history buff. Your history PhD 323 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: right is right. This is the declaration of independence that 324 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: Thomas Jefferson would sign if he were alive today. I 325 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: think it's the declaration of independence that I intend to 326 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: sign as the next president. That is not easy, right, 327 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: We've got addicted to buying cheap stuff. There will be 328 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: some short term economic inconvenience for us. But here's my 329 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: theory of foreign policy. Okay, if you're willing to make 330 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: a sacrifice, that's precisely when you don't actually have to 331 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: make one. All Right, we need to start thinking on 332 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: the time scales of history, not on the time scales 333 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: of election cycles. A little bit more Churchill and a 334 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: little less Chamberlain in America. Now, that's unfair to Chamberlain 335 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: if you actually understand the true history of it. But 336 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: you understand what I'm saying, okay, is that if we're 337 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: willing to declare economic independence from China, we actually got 338 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: to recognize and remember that China's in a weak spot 339 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: right now. Sis and Pink tried to hold onto power 340 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: for that unprecedented third term that he took over last 341 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: October that gives us an opportunity to take the economic 342 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: rug out from China so we can defeat them economically 343 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: so that we'll never have to militarily. But you can 344 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: only even be willing to make a sacrifice if you 345 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: know what you are sacrificing for, and that is this 346 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: thing we call America. Which is why it comes back 347 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: to the thing I opened with, this revival of a 348 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: missing national identity. That's why I'm running afternoon do they 349 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: I'm from Local Rock, Arkansas, and I think it seems 350 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 1: like to me that we could just like I would 351 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: like to have a gazillion vivix in this country, and 352 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: it seemed like to me that we don't have this 353 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: immigration thing down. Why do you think Biden is not 354 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: stopping illegal immigration over the border. I just think it's 355 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: intentional or you can see these people they rice the border. 356 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: What do you think is the whole skinny on this? 357 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: It is part of this culture of apologizing for the 358 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: essence of who we are, American exceptionalism. You can't even 359 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: say that anymore. It's a four letter word. I say 360 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: it all the time. It's a heart of our it's 361 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: the heart of our campaign. Message is a belief in 362 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,719 Speaker 1: the exceptionalism of the ideas that set this nation int emotion, 363 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: that constitute the heart and soul of this nation. But 364 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: I think that it's part of this culture of apologizing 365 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 1: for who we are. It's the same thing that puzzlingly 366 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: makes them hostile to nuclear energy. Why because nuclear energy 367 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: might actually be too good at solving their own supposed 368 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: climate problem. But it also might be even if you 369 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: buy into the tenets of this climate cult. But it 370 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: also is pro growth. That's why there's an anti growth 371 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: agenda and anti GDP growth agenda in this country for 372 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: the same reason that we believe in the dissolution of 373 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 1: our own borders. It's an apology for who America is. 374 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,959 Speaker 1: And so I think immigrants, and I'm a first generation 375 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: America I was born here. But I think immigrants and 376 00:18:54,200 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: even first generation Americans have a responsibility to actually revive 377 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: that lifeblood of our nation. And so what does our 378 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: immigration policy look like right now? We have accidental immigration, 379 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: which is illegal immigration. Forget about that. We should have 380 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: a hard line against that. Nobody's more hard line against 381 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: illegal immigration, including the use of the military to secure it, 382 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: than I am. But I also think that we need 383 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: to pair that with getting rid of other forms of 384 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: accidental immigration, an H one B lottery system. Why on 385 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: earth would we have a lottery system when you could 386 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: just pick the best ones. I'd say take meritocratic immigration instead, 387 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 1: points based immigration, factoring in both contributions you're likely to 388 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: make to this country, but also civic commitments to this country. 389 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: Actually knowing something about the history and the principles of 390 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: this country, and actually, you know what, Then you bring 391 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: in people who actually believe in a nation, who actually 392 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: have something to contribute to people who might be just 393 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: taken for what they inherited for granted. And I think 394 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: we need to revive this idea of citizenship in our country. 395 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: I'll share something with you just for funds. And we're 396 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: on a zoom here, just having some fun late in 397 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: the late afternoon. Here. Take this in that spirit, imagine 398 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: the opposite system, making this a two way street efforts 399 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: met Nude actually when he came to college when I 400 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: was a freshman in college. He won't remember this, but 401 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: he had this idea. It was just a fun idea. 402 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,719 Speaker 1: We're in high schools across this country. You should give 403 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: the kids who do best in math and science classes. 404 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 1: You should give them some extra cash so that they 405 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:17,719 Speaker 1: can take someone out on a date and be one 406 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: of the cool kids. Okay in high school nude, do 407 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: you remember that? Yeah, okay, yeah, I remember it. It's 408 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: stuck with me. Actually, you had an impression on me, 409 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: and it's like, I'm talking. I wasn't thinking you'd like 410 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,479 Speaker 1: the money. Absolutely, yeah. I was good at math, so 411 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: I would take that. Actually, I was like, why wasn't 412 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: he The principle of my high school is that I 413 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: was thinking. I was a freshman as eighteen years old 414 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: at the time you made an impression on me. Here 415 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 1: I am, you know, less than about twenty years later 416 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: and running for president, taking inspiration from people like you 417 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: who touched me twenty years ago without even knowing it 418 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: because I was sitting in the audience and we didn't 419 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: even meet, right, But I take that same idea. So 420 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: the spirit of that idea, having some fun with this is, 421 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: you know, let's give somebody some money. Give him fifty 422 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: thousand dollars one hundred thousan dollars in this countr. If 423 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: you don't believe in the ideas of this nation, we'll 424 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: write you a check. Go to another country. The only 425 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: thing is you don't get to come back. Okay, we'll 426 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: build the wall, my kids, the military security, the wall. 427 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 1: We got a secure border. Now why do I bring 428 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: up that thought experiment because it will remind people who 429 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: are not just immigrants who came to this country because 430 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: they love it, but people who have a choice to 431 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: stay in this country because they actually love it. They 432 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: just forgot it. Because you can't value something you just inherit. 433 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: You value you something, have a stake in building and choosing. 434 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: And I'm just about reviving that lifeblood of citizenship, of 435 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: belief in this great nation. That's part of what we've forgotten. 436 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: And you know, thank you for saying that. Honestly, I'm 437 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: just gonna shamelessly say this is forget the question of 438 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: who you vote for in this election until next year. 439 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: You could save that for next year. Nobody's cast in 440 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: ballots this year. This year is about the what and 441 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 1: the why. What do we stand for? Why do we 442 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: stand for it? And my next goal is the next step. 443 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: There's a step by step processes. Get a prominent spot, 444 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: not a side spot, a prominent spot like Nudad in 445 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: twenty twelve. And by the way, I watched you in 446 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: those debates. You did more for this country in those 447 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: debates than Mitt Romney did as the non I'm just 448 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: gonna say that bluntly because he actually took a lot 449 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: of what you said too. But I'm just gonna make 450 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: it a shameless because there's nothing to be ashamed of. 451 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: This is about the country we're talking about here. Everybody 452 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: in this call. I don't know if it's one dollars 453 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: one dollar, if it's the max out of thirty three 454 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: hundred dollars thirty three hundred dollars, but just go to 455 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: Vivic twenty twenty four dot com and make sure we 456 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: actually drive that agenda this year. Actually, that's what matters. 457 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,959 Speaker 1: Forget forget the who Kevin McCarthy or somebody else right 458 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 1: Rona McDaniel or somebody else who cares. These are boring questions. 459 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: They don't matter. We bicker over them because we never 460 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 1: stopped to first define the what and the why. Let's 461 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:35,959 Speaker 1: do that and put me in a position to do 462 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: that for you. That's what I hope to do it, 463 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: not only as a first generation American, but as somebody 464 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 1: who's now running for president of the the United States. I 465 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,719 Speaker 1: appreciate I know how busy you are running for president, 466 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: having tried it myself, I do want to mention to 467 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: you close and I are now developing a movie series 468 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: called Journey to America, which is first generation immigrants who 469 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: have made this country dramatically better, and I think you 470 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: would find it when it gets done a few weeks. 471 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: It's really pretty amazing people like Henry Kissinger and others 472 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: who really have dramatically enriched this country as your parents did. 473 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: We're coming here, so I want to remind everyone V 474 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: I V E K two O two four dot com. 475 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: This is one of the brightest people to run for president, 476 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: and I think somebody who's going to bring a lot 477 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: of energy and already has made a lot more impact 478 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: than I think people thought he could six or eight 479 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: weeks ago. So we're going to follow you closely, and 480 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: we really appreciate you tending the time with us, and 481 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: we wish you very safe travels and maybe in a 482 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: few months we can revisit and see how your campaign's coming. 483 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: Appreciate that. Thanks a lot. Good to meet everybody this way, 484 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: and it's always good to talk to you, you know, 485 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: so people'll talk to you said thank you, thank you, 486 00:23:46,600 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: very much, mister speaker. Yes, and I'd like to ask 487 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: you please. I notice in the run up to this 488 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: next election, you've got mister Trump and you've got mister DeSantis. 489 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: They're all and they're starting to say take pot shots. 490 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: I just wonder, do you think there's a chance that 491 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: both of them, like Reagan and Bush did, would team 492 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 1: up to run in twenty four They might? This is 493 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: wide open. Remember if we were talking at this point 494 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,479 Speaker 1: in two fifteen, nobody would have told you Donald Trump's 495 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: gonna be the nominee. He hasn't even come down that 496 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 1: long escalator at this point, doesn't do that till June. 497 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: So I would say that they're a possibility. I frankly 498 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: was very impressed the other night by Governor Huckabee Sanders, 499 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: who I thought did a great job answering the Democrats. 500 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: Governor Kim Reynolds in Iowa has had an amazing record. 501 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 1: Senator Tim Scott is a remarkable guy. There's a lot 502 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: of people out there, and I would not automatically assume anything. Clearly, 503 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is the front runner, and clearly if he 504 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: decides to run, governor to senis right now would be 505 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: the number two position. But It's a long way from 506 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: here to the election, and I wouldn't automatically assume that 507 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: it will be stable and that it's automatically frozen in 508 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: place current in Dallas, Texas. And my question following up 509 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: on Vic's probe was with regard to federal unions and 510 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: the contracts we have with them, because they do dominate 511 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: policy at the end of the day. And I don't 512 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: think it's a coincidence that the two most inefficient industries 513 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 1: in America are both either either fuel completely or mostly 514 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: by federal government dollars, and that is the education industry 515 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: in the bureaucracy. Is there a way to break those 516 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: contracts by the president or must he go through Congress? 517 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 1: Or how does addressing those contracts work. Philip Howard has 518 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 1: a new book out. He's one of the brightest lawyers 519 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: looking at government and how it operates, and his new book, 520 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: he basically argues that, much like Veveik did, that the 521 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: very definition of our constitution allows the voters to elect 522 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 1: people to whom they give power, and that the nature 523 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: of public employee unions is unconstitutional because it violates the 524 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: right of the voter to give power to somebody, because 525 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: it puts in place, as Veveik made very clear, people 526 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: who you can't fire, you can't control, who have their 527 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: own agenda. So Philip Power now is gathering up the 528 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: resources to file a lawsuit to go to the Supreme 529 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: Court to get them to rule that by definition, public 530 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: employee unions are unconstitutional. Now, if he wins that case, 531 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: and he thinks he's got a very realistic chance of 532 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: winning it, that will change everything, and it will be fascinating. 533 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: And I happen to think you have to have a 534 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: very profound overhaul of the whole structure of the bureaucracy, 535 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: and that can only be done either through the Supreme 536 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: Court or coming out of the twenty twenty four election 537 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: by having a Republican House and Senate and a Republican 538 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: President who make it one of their highest priorities in 539 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: January of twenty twenty five. But clearly the current bureaucracies 540 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: just don't work there muscle bound, they're geriatric, they're decaying, 541 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: and they're just not competent, and it's going to take 542 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: real change. I don't understand the difference between equity and inequality. 543 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 1: The way they use it in the liberal media and 544 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 1: often is not in Congress, in the Senate, could you 545 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: tell me what you think. I think if you're on 546 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: the left, equity means you get the same outcome. So, 547 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: for example, if one group of students can't do math, 548 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 1: then you should not allow another group of students to 549 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: do math. So in a very famous case in Virginia, 550 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: they had a high school in which a very high 551 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: percent of the students were Asian American. Because they're parents 552 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,679 Speaker 1: are very education oriented, they insisted that their children do 553 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: their homework. They really valued them doing well. So from 554 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: a liberal standpoint, that was an inequitable outcome because they're 555 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:16,479 Speaker 1: not interested in the highest quality. They're interested in racial 556 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: and sexual and other devices to define who you should be. Which, 557 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: by the way, when you start getting to either running 558 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: the Department of Transportation badly, or you can start getting 559 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: to medical schools where instead of bringing in the brightest 560 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: and the best people, you start bringing in people who 561 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: may not be as bright or may not do as well, 562 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: but they fit your model. You're building up problems for 563 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: the future that are very real. So I think we 564 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: stand for equality of opportunity, not equity of outcome. We 565 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: stand for people doing their very best and as Vavay said, 566 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: we stand for a meritocracy. We think you ought to 567 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: be able to earn a better future. And the people 568 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: who say, no, I don't want to work, I don't 569 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: want to do anything, but you owe me. The whole 570 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: conversation about the Silicon Valley Bank. If some person out 571 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: there is a multi millionaire and they're stupid enough to 572 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: put their money in a bank that was clearly on sound, 573 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: why should all the rest of us have to work 574 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: and pay to bail them out. They sure weren't going 575 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: to help us as long as they were rich. So 576 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: I'm very unsympathetic to the billionaires in Silicon Valley, and 577 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: I think Biden was just playing wrong to say, you know, 578 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: if you're part of the Federal Deposit Insurance Company, you 579 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: get two hundred and fifty thousand dollars because that's what 580 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: was paid in. That's the insurance you bought. But if 581 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: you haven't have thirty million dollars in an account, you 582 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: get two hundred fifty thousand dollars. You don't get thirty million. 583 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: And I think this is a huge mistake. And if 584 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: the federal government gets in the habit of bailing out stupidity, 585 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: it's going to really be very, very expensive. Let me 586 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: remind all of you by the way, I hope you 587 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,959 Speaker 1: found this interesting. We hope to eventually have all the 588 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: presidential candidates, including the Democrats, come and join us in 589 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,959 Speaker 1: the Inner Circle. And if you find it useful, I 590 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: hope you'll tell your friends and encourage them to join it. 591 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: I find it helpful and fascinating to listen to the 592 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: questions and see where it goes. 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