Speaker 1: Forever. Okay, So, for those of you who are just
Speaker 1: tuning in at the very beginning of the episode, everyone's
Speaker 1: wearing orange today except for Andrew. So if you're wearing
Speaker 1: orange patch yourself on the back, you made it. You
Speaker 1: did it, kiddo, So proud of us. Andrew. Do you
Speaker 1: own anything orange?
Speaker 2: No? I don't own anything orange.
Speaker 1: Hmm, Well, I don't you know which your coloring. I
Speaker 1: don't know what it's gonna look like. I don't know
Speaker 1: what it's going to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if it meshes well with the
Speaker 3: colors of your eyes, but.
Speaker 1: Right I don't know if it pairs well with your undertones.
Speaker 2: We have the same color eyes?
Speaker 1: Who is the same color eyes?
Speaker 2: Don't we all have? We all have brown eyes.
Speaker 1: My eyes are hazel bin.
Speaker 3: Marie does have a different shade of brown than everybody else.
Speaker 1: I mean, the sun has to be directly in my eyes,
Speaker 1: you see it. But it's a tiny bit less doodle
Speaker 1: than doodle, you know. Yeah, It's so true.
Speaker 3: And I love like I don't Sometimes I'm I'm scared
Speaker 3: because I will look into your eyes when the sun
Speaker 3: is hitting you, and I'm like, am I in love
Speaker 3: with her?
Speaker 1: I mean you're dating somebody who does have like very
Speaker 1: obviously light lighter eyes. So yeah, you're saying that when
Speaker 1: you look into my eyes and the sun is shining,
Speaker 1: it feels like home for you. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie, Mary. It's good eyes. You have
Speaker 3: great eyes.
Speaker 1: Good eyes. Speaking of good eyes, we were on the
Speaker 1: phone earlier today talking about fillers. When I think of fillers,
Speaker 1: I think of Courtney Cock's oar cat. I don't even
Speaker 1: know if she still go about our cat. But you know,
Speaker 1: when people get too much fillers, their eyes kind of
Speaker 1: like recede into their head and the rest of her
Speaker 1: face gets really puffy. But I don't know. We saw
Speaker 1: somebody today who got filers done to black woman and
Speaker 1: she looked good. So should I get fillers?
Speaker 3: I don't even think she needed it, per se, not
Speaker 3: six hundred dollars worth of filler. But I did it
Speaker 3: before dollars six hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: She's oh wait, No, I was talking about the girl
Speaker 1: that Carolina sent us, the girl from Instagram. Oh I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't at the end, I don't know how much
Speaker 3: she paid. But it did look really good. It looked amazing,
Speaker 3: and I really wanted. I was like fuck, because I
Speaker 3: when I don't wear a makeup, I look fine, but
Speaker 3: I can visibly see how tired I am. And if
Speaker 3: you get fillers, you looked, you look more refreshed.
Speaker 1: So fillers go under the eye, like if you have
Speaker 1: like lines under your eye, or if you have like hyperpitmentation,
Speaker 1: it like yes, set out, so it makes it look
Speaker 1: less dark.
Speaker 3: Yes, less dark. And also you lose elasticity in your
Speaker 3: skin the older you get, so your your your face
Speaker 3: kind of droops a little bit, or or you lose
Speaker 3: a little bit of fullness in your face. So so
Speaker 3: filler you know, ads, But what is this.
Speaker 1: Obsession with having a full face when you're grown. I
Speaker 1: want to be gaunt. I want to be like skinny,
Speaker 1: sunk in. I want my cheekbones to look like a
Speaker 1: lady got god prosthetic. I just want my face to
Speaker 1: be sharp. I want to look like Cruela de Ville
Speaker 1: in the cartoon. That's what I want my face to
Speaker 1: look like when I'm old.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you look at us when we're younger,
Speaker 3: like our baby faces, there they are, it's fuller. It's
Speaker 3: a it's a sign of youthfulness or for some people
Speaker 3: it's puffiness, yes, but I don't want to.
Speaker 1: When I look at pictures of me from even when
Speaker 1: we first met a couple of years ago, my face
Speaker 1: was round. It not it was round, Yes, it was.
Speaker 1: It was round my face.
Speaker 3: Marie, you said a couple of years ago, but it
Speaker 3: was eight years ago.
Speaker 1: Friend, that was a couple of years ago face.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, okay, wow, wow, I thought you arguing
Speaker 3: around you.
Speaker 1: Yes, ma'am, truly girl. Whatever a couple of years for
Speaker 1: you means what twenty nineteen?
Speaker 3: Pretty much? Yeah, a couple. A couple is two or three.
Speaker 1: Oh, y'all talk.
Speaker 3: But you know English is not my first language, and
Speaker 3: that's not what that's not a couple. Oh Lord, have
Speaker 3: mercy Jesus Christ. Okay, So yeah, you want to have
Speaker 3: a gun face. I like a gone I like a
Speaker 3: sharp face too, but I do hate that like underneath
Speaker 3: my eyes is like a little sunken in because I
Speaker 3: did get fillers. I got fillers like maybe five years.
Speaker 1: Ago, and it was a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: Yo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it wasn't It wasn't a good job. And
Speaker 3: I try to go back and get it fixed and win.
Speaker 1: What's a bad job? He hit your eye.
Speaker 3: Like what is a bad job when it comes to fillers,
Speaker 3: A bad job is you can see the actual like
Speaker 3: where they like punctured my skin with the needle. You
Speaker 3: can see where the needle was inserted. It was a
Speaker 3: bad job. I can send you pictures, we.
Speaker 1: Can pose like it sounds like he needs to uh
Speaker 1: he should have used a tinier needle, Like what does
Speaker 1: that now?
Speaker 3: He just wasn't good like this is and it was
Speaker 3: like a hookup from a friend who worked at this
Speaker 3: the METS spot shit. You don't go to a met spot.
Speaker 3: Just go to a certified plastic surgeon like its met SPA.
Speaker 3: You can get like, you know, facials and you can
Speaker 3: get things to like brighten your skin. But when you
Speaker 3: get that needle thing, when you when they start doing
Speaker 3: stuff with your face. I just go to a professional
Speaker 3: like a metspa's like a city MD for surgery.
Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 3: Pretty much?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think when it comes to surgery,
Speaker 1: you either got to save up the money to do
Speaker 1: it the right way with the right eye, or you
Speaker 1: gotta get somebody else. You said, you might have to
Speaker 1: secure a little sugar daddy so they can pay for it,
Speaker 1: But like, I don't understand why people be trying to
Speaker 1: cut corners when it comes to plastic surgery.
Speaker 3: No, your your body, your face is not like a shirt.
Speaker 3: It should not be on sale. Like right, y'all, don't
Speaker 3: be watching botched. No, yeah, I mean the fact that
Speaker 3: people go to other country, Well, I get while they
Speaker 3: go to other countries because they sometimes they do do
Speaker 3: a better job. But I don't know the risks, the risk,
Speaker 3: the fact that I don't know their language. I don't
Speaker 3: know what this is.
Speaker 1: Is that why people get surgery done in other countries
Speaker 1: because ye better job. I thought they went because it
Speaker 1: was cheaper in like Columbia or dr or Mexico or
Speaker 1: Costa Rica or whatever.
Speaker 3: No, they it's it's a better job in terms of
Speaker 3: like these are the girls who have the bbls And
Speaker 3: you're like, oh my, who the.
Speaker 1: Fuck it is calling me? I'm sorry, it's not like
Speaker 1: we don't have this standing appointment every single week.
Speaker 3: As wild Yeah sorry friend, Yeah, it's just uh like
Speaker 3: when you go to Columbia, you see the bodies, you
Speaker 3: see the girls. You go to Brazil, you see they
Speaker 3: bodies Like these are the bodies that people aspire to have,
Speaker 3: and it's because they're getting those things left and right.
Speaker 1: Yes, but all of the bodies in Brazil, all of
Speaker 1: the bodies in Central America, are not fake and built bodies.
Speaker 1: Some of those are their natural.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. People want to look like their
Speaker 3: natural bodies.
Speaker 1: Right. You gotta take that up with the God that
Speaker 1: you serve, Babe, talk to your mother and your father
Speaker 1: about why your body is shaped how it's shaped. But like,
Speaker 1: somebody's natural body is always gonna look better than your
Speaker 1: built body. Somebody who has the body shape that you're
Speaker 1: going in to get surgery for, if they have it naturally,
Speaker 1: it's gonna look better than yours because it's real. Right,
Speaker 1: that's what I think. You think you think if somebody
Speaker 1: brings in a photo of a body and they're like,
Speaker 1: this is what I want to look at. Like, let's
Speaker 1: talk about Kim Kardashia, for for example, people be bringing
Speaker 1: her photos into the plastic surgery place, like I want
Speaker 1: to look like Kim.
Speaker 3: And then she'd be bringing it she Yeah, she brings
Speaker 3: in old pictures of her body and she's like, so
Speaker 3: I want this, but like a little bit bitty, it's
Speaker 3: a mess. It's just like either you accept your rough draft,
Speaker 3: you know, body, or you know, you try to get
Speaker 3: the final draft that you thought you were meant to have.
Speaker 1: No. See, I'm not shaming anybody who's going in to
Speaker 1: get plastic surgery or whatever. If you're not happy with
Speaker 1: your rough draft, body, then go ahead, sis upgrade to
Speaker 1: like a thicker sheet, you know, that glossy photo paper
Speaker 1: if you need to. But like, just don't be trying
Speaker 1: to cut corners with it. Like, don't don't go somewhere
Speaker 1: where the doctor is doing ten implants in one day.
Speaker 1: He might he might do yours. Cricket.
Speaker 3: Don't get your titties on groupon period. And that is
Speaker 3: the title. That's the title of this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see what happens, okay. So uh, speaking of
Speaker 1: appearances and stuff, we were talking about aunties. For me,
Speaker 1: calling me an auntie feels like a slur because I
Speaker 1: am not an auntie. When I went to UH. I
Speaker 1: was at this event a few weeks ago, and people
Speaker 1: that I went to school with were there, and they
Speaker 1: all of them have children and stuff now, and they
Speaker 1: look to me like aunties, Like they look like what
Speaker 1: my aunts and uncles look like to me when I
Speaker 1: was a kid, like they're shaped like our parents, Like
Speaker 1: they just look older and I'm walking around with my
Speaker 1: you know, my my my high school body still, So
Speaker 1: I don't I don't subscribe to this auntie title. It
Speaker 1: feels it feels mean when people call me an auntie.
Speaker 3: I mean, Murray, do you think do you think I
Speaker 3: feel like my my body doesn't give auntie vibes? Yeah,
Speaker 3: but your energy is auntie. Sometimes I don't think that
Speaker 3: your body is auntie at all. Absolutely, I don't feel
Speaker 3: like I dressed like an aunt I see Andrew's face.
Speaker 3: What's your fucking face?
Speaker 1: Talk to me.
Speaker 2: Wait, I'm okay, get in, Marie. You're going to this
Speaker 2: event and you're saying, like the meanest thing that like
Speaker 2: anybody could call you is auntie. However, you're saying that
Speaker 2: everybody else at the party is that so like that's mean.
Speaker 2: You're saying.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not calling them aunties. I'm saying they look
Speaker 1: exactly how Like when I was a kid and my
Speaker 1: aunts and uncles will come to the house, think about
Speaker 1: what they look like, think about what they were wearing,
Speaker 1: think about what their body shaped was. That's what these
Speaker 1: people I went to school with look like, now I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that they're aunties. I'm saying no, I'm saying
Speaker 1: they are. That's what they are. That's what Andrew.
Speaker 3: Andrew was like, I'm just trying to clarify this, just.
Speaker 2: Trying to clarify you're saying the thing. Okay, but it's
Speaker 2: because it is anybody saying that to you, people.
Speaker 1: Within the roop chat that I'm in, being like, we're aunties. Now,
Speaker 1: this is auntie and I'm like, but I'm not an auntie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm an I'm an auntie in a real life
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I'm not an aunt Oh.
Speaker 1: Wow, Sydney's an AUNTI in real life. Sidney, you are
Speaker 1: an auntie, baby, I've been.
Speaker 3: I've been an aunt since like I don't know, I
Speaker 3: was a kid.
Speaker 1: My niece.
Speaker 3: My niece is thirty now, I think she's thirty or
Speaker 3: twenty nine.
Speaker 1: Sydney, you are an aunt when you were six pretty much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I see her laughing. It's not funny.
Speaker 1: I mean it is funny, but your siblings are like
Speaker 1: twenty years older than you. Yeah, it makes sense, it
Speaker 1: makes I don't know, wild it is just anti because
Speaker 1: I don't dress like an auntie, and I don't. I'm
Speaker 1: not shaped like an auntie. That's why I'm not. Also,
Speaker 1: I don't have any nieces or nephews.
Speaker 3: I'm an honor in real life. But I'm just saying
Speaker 3: I think when I'm in my home, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna wear my bonnet, I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Like, ooh, I'm hot, I'm cold.
Speaker 3: Ooh, I need a blanky like yes, peak auntie.
Speaker 1: That's that's grandmother behavior right there. I need a play
Speaker 1: kid for.
Speaker 3: My legs, Like I need to have the ac on
Speaker 3: and the heater and then wrapped up in a blanket.
Speaker 1: I like, I mean the way I look at.
Speaker 3: Things on a computer, I'm just like squinting, squint the squint,
Speaker 3: I do the scra Are you doing the squint and
Speaker 3: then you pull the thing away so you could read
Speaker 3: it better? Oh no, no, no, I don't do that, not yet.
Speaker 3: That is that's full blown on m that's my dad.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 3: We just don't want to fucking grow up. We don't
Speaker 3: want to grow up. When we were kids, were like,
Speaker 3: I can't wait to grow up, and then it's like
Speaker 3: you don't want to grow up, you don't want to
Speaker 3: age you don't want people to associate you with, you know, olderness.
Speaker 1: But it's not that I don't want to grow up.
Speaker 1: I mean, being an adult is definitely ghetto. Two stars
Speaker 1: would not recommend, but I just don't feel grown up,
Speaker 1: you know. And then every once in a while, I'll
Speaker 1: be doing something in my house and it will hate
Speaker 1: me that I am an adult, and I'll be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: dial like I this, no, but I don't know. When
Speaker 1: I talk about gen Z now, I'll be like, well,
Speaker 1: what the kid's talking about? So I do call them
Speaker 1: the kids. So the youth like the youth, the youth's
Speaker 1: what's the youth's doing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like it's like I at the end of
Speaker 3: the day, we're all gonna hit forty one day, Like
Speaker 3: if we're lucky, if we're lucky, if we're you know,
Speaker 3: if God willing, you know, we're gonna hit it. And
Speaker 3: it's like, do I want to be forty talking about
Speaker 3: you know, I'm actually twenty nine?
Speaker 1: Like no, But I also when I hit forty, that's
Speaker 1: a milestone that like, I think when you hit forty,
Speaker 1: that's when you're don't give a damn hits like turbo
Speaker 1: because at forty years old. You just want to sit
Speaker 1: down and you want to I don't know, stand up
Speaker 1: in your back, don't cray. I don't know what forty wants.
Speaker 1: But I feel like when you're the older you get,
Speaker 1: the less you care. So people in they fifties are
Speaker 1: still lying about how old they are.
Speaker 3: No, I mean, I mean truly, I want to get
Speaker 3: to that point of not caring because I care too much.
Speaker 3: Like my brain is plagued with other people's thoughts or
Speaker 3: my thoughts of what other people think of me, and
Speaker 3: it's sickening. And I am closer to forty than everybody
Speaker 3: on this call. So it's just I'm like, when do
Speaker 3: I get to the I don't give a fuck stage?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: Sidney? You so wait, hold on, take a step back.
Speaker 1: You're saying that you care what people think about you?
Speaker 1: You you so what that affects how you live your life?
Speaker 3: Sometimes sometimes it does affect I.
Speaker 1: Mean, I don't know. There's you're pretty open and you
Speaker 1: be sharing your business with people. It don't seem like
Speaker 1: you care what people think about what you who you
Speaker 1: are and what you're you've dealt with Andrew, I disagree.
Speaker 2: I think that Sidney, you're very protective of your your
Speaker 2: of yourself, and when someone does have something negative to say,
Speaker 2: such as like a negative review, there is a reaction.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So no, I'm not saying I agree with what
Speaker 1: you just said. When someone has something to say, there's
Speaker 1: a reaction. But I'm saying Sidney lives her life essentially
Speaker 1: like an open book. She's she's open about her sobriety journey,
Speaker 1: she's open about her mental health journey. She's very open,
Speaker 1: and I think that is something that people that is
Speaker 1: that draws people to Sydney, that she is open and
Speaker 1: she you know, it seems like you don't care about
Speaker 1: how people perceive you in those situations because you're like,
Speaker 1: this is what it is. Yeah, but.
Speaker 3: Let let's get into it right. So, like I obviously
Speaker 3: Marie had to sit down with me and intervention. I
Speaker 3: am obviously too friendly and I make friends with people.
Speaker 1: But what Marie, go ahead, go ahead, Sidney.
Speaker 3: And she was like, Sidney, you have to stop, like
Speaker 3: you just I don't know if I can deal with
Speaker 3: this anymore because it's the ASPCA. You got strays everywhere,
Speaker 3: and I like, I do care about what you think
Speaker 3: and like other close friends.
Speaker 1: Think of me.
Speaker 3: But also I know what it is to feel like
Speaker 3: shunned or like not cool or people don't want to
Speaker 3: be friendly with me, and so I just like I
Speaker 3: like having interactions with people and people feeling like, oh,
Speaker 3: we're we're cool, they feel safe.
Speaker 1: They Oh you want you want people to feel like
Speaker 1: they're friends with.
Speaker 3: You, Yes, without necessarily having to.
Speaker 1: Be friends with me. But you will give your phone
Speaker 1: number to a stray dog.
Speaker 2: Okay, Sydney, we actually do need to talk about this.
Speaker 2: Your phone number is on your Instagram account.
Speaker 1: Your phone number is on your Instagram account. I don't
Speaker 1: see it.
Speaker 2: I don't it is in your Instagram account. Someone messaged
Speaker 2: me like two weeks ago and was like, in the
Speaker 2: same vein of what we're talking about, Yeah, there is
Speaker 2: a button call Sidney Washington and it is your phone number.
Speaker 3: Oh well let me okay, so let me how do
Speaker 3: I get that out?
Speaker 1: Honestly, it don't matter because Sydney is giving her phone
Speaker 1: number to people who come to comedy shows. Sidney's giving
Speaker 1: her phone number to people who are like, oh, I
Speaker 1: love uh you know you on Instagram or I love
Speaker 1: your podcast. Sidney is giving her number to people she
Speaker 1: does not know, who know more about her than she
Speaker 1: knows about them, and so they already have the number.
Speaker 2: So I think it does speak very highly of you
Speaker 2: that you're very approachable and you're very nice and friendly.
Speaker 2: But I think that we need to.
Speaker 1: I took it off.
Speaker 2: Okay, great, that's.
Speaker 1: Like somebody going up to Beyonce, and I am definitely
Speaker 1: comparing myself to Beyonce in this situation. Somebody coming up.
Speaker 3: To Beyonce and saying, Oh, I love you so much,
Speaker 3: I would love to cook for you in my house,
Speaker 3: or and then Beyonce shows up, or oh girl, like.
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan, and Beyonce is like, okay, well
Speaker 1: call me sometime. We had a nice little conversation tonight,
Speaker 1: Like that's not how it works, especially somebody in our professions.
Speaker 1: The more we do, the more visible we are, and
Speaker 1: now everybody has access to you. You won't let these
Speaker 1: stranger dangers into your house.
Speaker 3: No, no, I I have to work on it, and
Speaker 3: I have. I've heard you sist you you have been heard,
Speaker 3: and I mean no, really.
Speaker 1: Wish that you would be specific about this example, which
Speaker 1: is why I told you that you needed to stop
Speaker 1: with this. But I don't know if you you want
Speaker 1: to get into that.
Speaker 3: No, it's just it's just me at shows. It's it's
Speaker 3: me at shows, it's me. It's me everywhere. I have
Speaker 3: to I have to. I just don't think anything of
Speaker 3: my phone number and I'm like, oh yeah, sure, like
Speaker 3: but it.
Speaker 1: Makes no sise. We were out and somebody, one of
Speaker 1: these people may or may not have offered ketamine to
Speaker 1: people that we know, and it was like, who is
Speaker 1: this person? And everybody was like, oh, that that's Sydney's friend.
Speaker 3: No, and on paper that's Sydney's friend, but you don't
Speaker 3: know anything about that person.
Speaker 1: But they're they're in your space. They're they're they're taking
Speaker 1: up space with people that you do know, and that's
Speaker 1: what you want to be affiliated way.
Speaker 3: Uh, you're right, your I I have to work on it.
Speaker 3: It's it's hard. I like, I think, in the back
Speaker 3: of my head, I see myself in these other people,
Speaker 3: Like I just I just was not cool for not
Speaker 3: saying that these people aren't cool. But I wanted to be.
Speaker 3: I wanted to be accepted. I wanted people to be
Speaker 3: nice to me. I wanted like and now I just
Speaker 3: didn't get that for so long until I don't know,
Speaker 3: one day it clicked in, people were like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: Sidney's Sidney's cool, Sidney's hot, Sidney's funny. And then you know,
Speaker 3: I was just able to make friends anywhere and everywhere
Speaker 3: I went, but in the back of my head and
Speaker 3: I felt like I was always trying to like have
Speaker 3: these people accept me, like prove myself.
Speaker 1: You know. Okay, So two things here. One, I also
Speaker 1: was not cool not running around doing what you're doing.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing anything remotely close to what you're doing.
Speaker 1: A lot of the people, a lot of us went
Speaker 1: to school and were not cool. A lot of us
Speaker 1: grew up and became who we are and became, you know,
Speaker 1: this adult, grown up version of ourselves that like, you know,
Speaker 1: we have taste based on what we want and what
Speaker 1: we like, not based on what people are gonna other
Speaker 1: people are gonna have on other people are gonna like.
Speaker 1: So that I wasn't cool thing. I heard it. I've
Speaker 1: heard it, I've heard it all before. It don't matter.
Speaker 1: But then you said you want to be nice. You
Speaker 1: can still be nice to somebody and be smart about it,
Speaker 1: Like you can beat nice and not give somebody your
Speaker 1: phone number. You can be nice and not be like yeah,
Speaker 1: come we get in dinner, come with us to give food. Like,
Speaker 1: you can be nice and still keep your distance.
Speaker 3: Yeah, be nice, keep your distance.
Speaker 1: Be nice and back up. Like yeah, okay, nice to
Speaker 1: meet you.
Speaker 3: Like, be nice and backup. I like that too. That's
Speaker 3: a good title.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, Andrew, what do you think about them? Wasn't
Speaker 1: cool and being nice?
Speaker 2: Okay? So I think two things. I think that you
Speaker 2: know Sidney first and foremost, I think, if this is
Speaker 2: your toxic trait to have, I think this is a
Speaker 2: perfectly okay, justifiable toxic trait. People have much worse toxic
Speaker 2: traits than being too friendly.
Speaker 3: Yes, it is a toxic trait of mine.
Speaker 2: But I think it's like at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: like being too nice, that's okay. However, I think Marie,
Speaker 2: what you're saying about like, Okay, we exist and like
Speaker 2: if we were that I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying we both weren't cool, but we're not approaching not
Speaker 1: ye out in public the same way socially, right.
Speaker 2: But I think that like Sydney's allowed to approach her
Speaker 2: adult self differently now that she's responding to the situation.
Speaker 1: Andrews, I'm telling you, is they missing ears the tail
Speaker 1: is clipped. Sydney is picking up people, and I'm like, Sidney,
Speaker 1: we live in a very crazy time and people are
Speaker 1: you don't ever know who you're talking to when you're
Speaker 1: talking to them. And I've seen The Bodyguard and I've
Speaker 1: watched too much lor on sv you. I've watched too
Speaker 1: much Lifetime to just welcome any and everybody into my space. Specifically,
Speaker 1: I'm talking to people who are listening right now. People
Speaker 1: be like, Oh, I love you on Instagram, I love
Speaker 1: you on this I saw you here. I mean I
Speaker 1: was on an app today. This guy was like, is
Speaker 1: the knitting factory coming back? Y'all are freaking hilarious. People
Speaker 1: recognize me or people think they know me, and that
Speaker 1: for me gives me pause. Anybody who feels like they
Speaker 1: know me, I already don't really like you because I
Speaker 1: don't know anything about you right So for me, it's
Speaker 1: like a safety thing. You you're if you're calling yourself
Speaker 1: a fan of mine, then I don't really want to
Speaker 1: be friends with you. Like we can, you can come
Speaker 1: support and I'll chit chat. We can take pictures, but
Speaker 1: like we not go hang out after.
Speaker 3: I think I don't live my life in fear because
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I used to go. I've I've been roofed before. I
Speaker 3: used to go to the clubs by myself. I've you know,
Speaker 3: I've taken drugs from strangers. I've done so much that like,
Speaker 3: I just don't live my life like somebody is out
Speaker 3: to hurt me and kill me and doesn't have my
Speaker 3: best interests. Like obviously that all those things are true,
Speaker 3: but I also look at myself and say, hey, I
Speaker 3: can feel vibes when I feel like unsafe, and I
Speaker 3: go off of that.
Speaker 1: But Sidney, when's the last time you felt unsafe? Because
Speaker 1: when I see you, you you're sitting on the stranger's laps. No,
Speaker 1: but if you're lying, I just feel like you get
Speaker 1: real comfortable real quick. You're taking your shoes off at
Speaker 1: somebody's house. You fall asleep on the couch in the
Speaker 1: middle of the party, Like that's what you real comfortable.
Speaker 1: So in that sense, I think really lying, I'm lying.
Speaker 1: When's the last time you.
Speaker 3: Should take your shoes off at somebody's house? You should
Speaker 3: be it should be a shoes off situation you should
Speaker 3: never have.
Speaker 1: In Sidney, We've been in plenty of dirt plenty of
Speaker 1: a dirty white person place for you to have been
Speaker 1: having your shoes on and they kicked off on them
Speaker 1: next to the west down couch. So okay, Sidney, I
Speaker 1: will say this then, Yeah, if you don't live your
Speaker 1: life in fear, you are definitely braver than me, one
Speaker 1: hundred braver than me, because I am terrified every time
Speaker 1: I go outside. I'm like, oh somebody might might could
Speaker 1: do something to me.
Speaker 3: So yes, A yeah, I love that, but I get
Speaker 3: I can't recognize people come up to me and they
Speaker 3: like it's the people who don't come up to me.
Speaker 3: Those are the people that I'm scared of. Those were
Speaker 3: the people that I think are plotting, the people who.
Speaker 1: Are like, hey, what's going Like?
Speaker 3: I think that they're just like fans, Hey, oh my god,
Speaker 3: I love your work, you know, like.
Speaker 2: What what?
Speaker 1: Andrew? What what?
Speaker 2: Wait? You're saying you're scared of the people that don't
Speaker 2: come up to you. Yeah, so like that you're passing
Speaker 2: people on the street, Like are you afraid of just them?
Speaker 2: Or who are you saying here that aren't aren't approaching you?
Speaker 3: Like sometimes I could just be like walking late at
Speaker 3: night and somebody city, what are you walking?
Speaker 1: Wait, so late at night you walk into an uber
Speaker 1: from across the next question, next caller, wait, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: And also you would rather that person in the middle
Speaker 2: of the night approach you and be like, hey, love
Speaker 2: the pod or what would you You would feel safer
Speaker 2: in that situation.
Speaker 1: Guys, the people, the people who are listening.
Speaker 3: I love how you know over zealous you are about
Speaker 3: the pod and knowing us and coming to the shows.
Speaker 3: I love that we need that, we need. I want
Speaker 3: people to ride for us. I want to have a hive.
Speaker 3: I think I don't want to ever make people feel
Speaker 3: weird about being obsessed with us. We're fucking dope. We
Speaker 3: put out great content and we are not making people
Speaker 3: feel bad.
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, I put no over zealous. Hold on.
Speaker 1: I just need to look up the word over zealous
Speaker 1: because I feel like that's not what I want. Okay,
Speaker 1: I want people to come to the shows. You see us,
Speaker 1: come say hi. I love that. I love that. I
Speaker 1: agree with Sydney on that. But hanging out with me
Speaker 1: after the show, that's the difference. Sydney wants to hang
Speaker 1: out with these people, and it's very eminem stand moment,
Speaker 1: It's very dear slim. I meant to you know, I
Speaker 1: called you. I just drank a bit. That's what That's
Speaker 1: what I feel. So you saying I want y'all to
Speaker 1: be excited about us. I love that you come talk
Speaker 1: to us on the street. Yes, be excited, but don't
Speaker 1: follow me to where I'm going. This is this is
Speaker 1: where this is where the tour roads diverge. Sis and I.
Speaker 1: I was walking down the street once and it was nighttime,
Speaker 1: and this guy was on the street and when I
Speaker 1: passed him, he spoke to me, and I was like
Speaker 1: ew and like he was like, he's like, oh, how
Speaker 1: you doing tonight? And I was like I'm fine, and
Speaker 1: I like sped up a little bit. And then he
Speaker 1: mentioned something about my beef with Azalea Banks, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, a friend. And then I slowed down.
Speaker 1: But also I slow down because he was gay. Like
Speaker 1: I don't need no straight men talking to me at nighttime. Yeah,
Speaker 1: whether you know me or not. But uh, then he
Speaker 1: was gay, so gay for me is safe. But I'm
Speaker 1: still not giving you my phone number. I understand what
Speaker 1: y'all saying. I get it. I heard it. Y'all.
Speaker 3: Y'all are making a lot of sense. But I'm also
Speaker 3: like I enjoy the fandom, and it's it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: sometimes we don't know who we're reaching, and everybody who
Speaker 3: comes up to us are hot and so sweet. Yeah,
Speaker 3: everybody's a little off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're all off.
Speaker 3: Okay, if first of all, if you're starting a podcast,
Speaker 3: you're strange, and if you're listening to a podcast, you're
Speaker 3: so strange. Yeah, so we're both in the same motherfucking boat.
Speaker 3: All right, period.
Speaker 1: Period.
Speaker 3: We went to San Francis. We went to San Francisco,
Speaker 3: and the people were waiting outside in the cold for
Speaker 3: an hour from us, Sidney.
Speaker 1: That's because we're good at what we do. Period. Right
Speaker 1: on the other side of that sentence, all those people
Speaker 1: that came to see us in San Francisco, I was
Speaker 1: not texting them later like thanks for coming out. Let
Speaker 1: me know where I should get something to eat tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Like it was just like, you see us for a moment,
Speaker 1: We have a good night, we share a nice night together,
Speaker 1: and then everyone goes about their their day. You collecting,
Speaker 1: you just collecting friends like pokemon and and I'm saying friends,
Speaker 1: but these people are You're not friends with these people.
Speaker 1: You're not friends with them. Sidney, you have more actual
Speaker 1: friends than anybody that I know, and you talk to
Speaker 1: those people all day long. So these other people's numbers
Speaker 1: that you're collecting, you just taking them just to take
Speaker 1: up space on your iPhone sys. Your eye cloud gotta
Speaker 1: be full. But by now, yeah, you paying for extra
Speaker 1: y cloud storage.
Speaker 3: M hm, I am, but yeah, no, you're right for
Speaker 3: people that you don't know, girl, I'm yeah, I'm I
Speaker 3: definitely got some things to work through. You're not wrong,
Speaker 3: But I think that you both.
Speaker 2: Can learn something from each other.
Speaker 1: I think that, come on, Andrew, you better mediate.
Speaker 2: Sydney might be too receptive, and then you, Marie, I
Speaker 2: think you're not receptive enough. Potentially.
Speaker 1: I don't think that though. When people approach me on
Speaker 1: the street or people approach me after a show, I
Speaker 1: always engage with them. We have a conversation now if
Speaker 1: they get too comfortable and they start to maybe like like,
Speaker 1: I had somebody to come up to me the other
Speaker 1: day and was like, don't act like I don't know you, Marie.
Speaker 1: And I had to tell her you don't you don't
Speaker 1: know me, and like her face was like she was
Speaker 1: taken aback a little bit. But you listen, to me
Speaker 1: for an hour a week, maybe an hour and twenty
Speaker 1: five if we feeling funny. But you don't know me,
Speaker 1: you know my viewpoint on certain things. You see me
Speaker 1: do stand up a couple of times, but like that
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that we're friends. It doesn't mean that like
Speaker 1: we've ever interacted before this moment, you know. So I
Speaker 1: think boundaries are important boundaries, and I think that ultimately,
Speaker 1: anybody who's ever met me from this podcast or from
Speaker 1: my YouTube or from Instagram, if they told me that
Speaker 1: they recognized me from any of those places, I was
Speaker 1: nice to them. No, they didn't talk to me before that.
Speaker 1: I might have been mean, but that's because my mother
Speaker 1: told me not to talk to strangers. Right, there's valid.
Speaker 3: There's nothing wrong with that. I mean, you know, I
Speaker 3: I we did we did our the solo show last Friday,
Speaker 3: and you know, I was very emotional, and you know,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm working on myself and working on my childhood story.
Speaker 3: And I feel like people know me a little bit
Speaker 3: better after watching it. And I will be a little
Speaker 3: bit friendlier after that show, because that's such a like
Speaker 3: vulnerable show.
Speaker 1: I might pass my number out. I don't know. I'm just.
Speaker 3: That's Andrew.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't pass your number out. I mean, like now
Speaker 2: it's not even on the Instagram anymore.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Should have been getting more calls. I should have been
Speaker 3: getting more call my phone. Don't be blowing up.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Sidney, Yes, your phone is always blowing up.
Speaker 1: It literally rings at least twice when we do this
Speaker 1: podcast every week, and then Carolyn will come down on
Speaker 1: break and be like, what's happening? So your phone is
Speaker 1: always ringing?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Update. I just want you to let you all know
Speaker 3: about our good, good gal Molly. I did hire her
Speaker 3: as an assistant and I used her for my solo
Speaker 3: show and she got me a videographer and she was
Speaker 3: there early and she helped me put up things for
Speaker 3: the back of the stage. She got me water, she
Speaker 3: got me Red Bull, she did the slide show.
Speaker 1: She did.
Speaker 3: She was a good assistant.
Speaker 2: Uh no, don't do that. I did the slide show.
Speaker 3: You did the slide show. But she like helped me. Okay, okay,
Speaker 3: oh wow, like.
Speaker 1: I did about.
Speaker 2: No, no, like as if I would like not catch it.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, that's how I wasn't saying it like that, Andrew.
Speaker 3: I was saying Okay, whoa Okay, good, good to know.
Speaker 1: Okay, So give us the rest of the Maley update.
Speaker 1: You give us a performance review for her sis.
Speaker 3: I think she wants to learn. She wants to she.
Speaker 3: I spoke to her. I told her, I said, hey,
Speaker 3: you were doing too much on the pod. I know
Speaker 3: you're trying to be funny, but like, we don't know
Speaker 3: you like that. The audience don't know you.
Speaker 1: Is it funny? Okay? Well what else you know? She
Speaker 1: was trying to be funny on the podcast? I said,
Speaker 1: it wasn't funny. The people were not laughing, they were
Speaker 1: not entertained. They were not entertained.
Speaker 3: And she, you know, it was a it was a
Speaker 3: small pill to swallow, but it was a learning experience
Speaker 3: and everybody deserves to learn and maybe, you know, get
Speaker 3: another chance. And I'm happy with the work that she's
Speaker 3: currently doing.
Speaker 1: So are you paying her? Is there a stipend? Yes?
Speaker 3: I paid her. I paid her for her work. You know,
Speaker 3: we're going to be doing an hourly thing. She's actually
Speaker 3: going away. She won't she won't be here for until September.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, started a job and is going to be
Speaker 1: going for two months.
Speaker 3: Very very very black of her. I love that she's
Speaker 3: she's a part of the fam.
Speaker 1: Now it's giving niggardly interesting. Yeah, okay, so she's going
Speaker 1: to be doing work. You said, what's this hour thing
Speaker 1: that you're doing.
Speaker 3: So whenever I have, whenever I say yes to shows
Speaker 3: or whatever, I'm just gonna be forwarding her things and
Speaker 3: she's going to send me Google invites. So it's in
Speaker 3: my calendar because I just won't put it in my calendar.
Speaker 3: If people need me to send in stuff, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: be like, here's her email. She knows my schedules. She'll
Speaker 3: tell you what I'm available for.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, Sydney, this is very exciting. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: a tiny bit jealous. Now I really want an assistant
Speaker 1: even more. But I don't want that one. Okay, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want I would love I would love a
Speaker 1: straight white man assistant. So if you're listening to this,
Speaker 1: please please go ahead and phone call Sidney the number
Speaker 1: that you see on her Instagram and she'll get you me. Lol.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh my god. She's very helpful. Andrew helps whenever
Speaker 3: he cans, and uh, you know, I always am thankful
Speaker 3: for the assistance that I can get whenever I can
Speaker 3: can Mmm, I have no I have no problem asking
Speaker 3: for help. I think it is foolish and silly to
Speaker 3: think that you could do everything by yourself. It's no,
Speaker 3: there's no need, there's people to help.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: I can't. I really can't. In my part of my
Speaker 3: life and my career. I can't be overwhelmed the way
Speaker 3: that I get overwhelmed. I can't do it anymore. It
Speaker 3: just it's debilitating.
Speaker 1: M debilitating mm hmmm mm hmm. Oh man, everybody's calling today.
Speaker 3: Everybody's calling today. Sorry, I apologize. Is that one of
Speaker 3: your fans, No, it's my girlfriend. It's my girlfriend. She called.
Speaker 1: It's you know, it makes sense. I mean your girlfriend
Speaker 1: listens to the podcast. Yeah, and she doesn't know that
Speaker 1: you record the podcast on Wednesdays.
Speaker 3: Uh no, No, I like, you know, I should tell
Speaker 3: her that and be like, maybe you have your assistant
Speaker 3: message your girlfriend let her know that you're unavailable Wednesdays
Speaker 3: at noon.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so again I just want to say, you know,
Speaker 3: shout out to Molly for coming through and doing what
Speaker 3: she needed to do. And she read all of y'all comments,
Speaker 3: and you know, stay tuned because everybody deserves, you know,
Speaker 3: some compliments, some nice words said their way.
Speaker 1: You says stay tuned, like you've got to bring Molly
Speaker 1: back for a partner.
Speaker 3: No, no, should we have a partner?
Speaker 1: Look at me, and Andrews faces. We don't need your
Speaker 1: assistant to come back on the podcast. To believe that
Speaker 1: she's a good assistant. You could just give us weekly updates.
Speaker 1: And honestly, Sidney, every time you FaceTime me and it's
Speaker 1: your face and you're alive, I'm like, oh, Molly's doing
Speaker 1: a great job.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, she's doing fantastic.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Also, I want to speak to the people who are
Speaker 3: leaving their comments. You know, the internet is mean. The
Speaker 3: internet is mean. The people just will write anything like
Speaker 3: a human being is not reading.
Speaker 1: What you're saying. What did they say that was so bad?
Speaker 3: Someone of stuff was just like it was rude. It
Speaker 3: was downright rude. And if I'm twenty one reading comments
Speaker 3: from the internet.
Speaker 1: It's mean.
Speaker 3: You could you could say that you don't trust somebody
Speaker 3: without like bringing them down all the way like.
Speaker 2: No, I will I will say this. I was thinking
Speaker 2: about that too. I was like, some of these comments
Speaker 2: are like as a twenty one year old I would
Speaker 2: be hurt by this. It was mean really affect my day. However, However,
Speaker 2: the fact that she was bold and brash enough to
Speaker 2: do this podcast, she understood the ramifications of coming onto
Speaker 2: this podcast yep. And so I think that, you know,
Speaker 2: that's just like the way it goes.
Speaker 1: I think that you have nobody to blame but yourself
Speaker 1: if people are if you, if you're increasing your own
Speaker 1: visibility in that way. We didn't, we didn't We didn't
Speaker 1: force her to do the podcast. We didn't tell her
Speaker 1: to put herself out there. Ask somebody who claims to
Speaker 1: listen to the unofficial expert, which people were questioning in
Speaker 1: the comments, rightfully, So as somebody who claims to listen
Speaker 1: to the podcast, you should you already see what type
Speaker 1: of commentary the people are giving on a regular basis.
Speaker 3: So I don't know that was I need y'all to
Speaker 3: have that same energy when we post episodes period. The
Speaker 3: way y'all came out of left field, I didn't even
Speaker 3: know we could get to that many comments on the
Speaker 3: fucking post.
Speaker 1: No straight up and down, straight up and down, sitting
Speaker 1: no no, no, no no, no, said don't act like you did,
Speaker 1: not just say you love an over zealous fan, I love.
Speaker 3: An overze They do that in person, but they don't.
Speaker 3: They don't be giving this energy on the socials. I'll
Speaker 3: tell you that much. If everybody who wrote a comment
Speaker 3: about Molly actually reposted the pod and told people about us,
Speaker 3: I think we didn't be doing We have a lot
Speaker 3: more rating Toney, just saying, just.
Speaker 1: Sitting I hear what you're saying, but I think you
Speaker 1: mad at the wrong people.
Speaker 3: I'm not mad at the wrong people. I'm just I'm
Speaker 3: making a valid point. It's like, when it's time to
Speaker 3: be negative, everybody would real d but when it's time
Speaker 3: to there's so many good episodes that we have that
Speaker 3: we have never had this many interactions with ever. So
Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm not wrong for putting out a valid point, Manrew.
Speaker 2: I think the listeners were also concerned for your well
Speaker 2: being as well. I think that that was coming across
Speaker 2: that there were that they were coming out of the woodwork.
Speaker 1: People were seeing red flags and they commented on the
Speaker 1: red flags. Yeah, every comment was not a negative comment. Yes,
Speaker 1: it was like one hundred and thirty comments or whatever
Speaker 1: the hell it is, but the vast majority of those
Speaker 1: comments were not mean. They're not mean spirited, they weren't nasty.
Speaker 1: No one was calling her a bitch. Nobody was like
Speaker 1: this dumb ass, ugly ass, young ass beach. People were
Speaker 1: just like, you know, she didn't know about Seminaryaki. That
Speaker 1: was a whole thread about some Saraokia on the post.
Speaker 1: They're like interacting with each other. So I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't like how you're talking to our support,
Speaker 1: our overzealous supporters. Definitely don't like how you're talking to
Speaker 1: your friends about your friends on.
Speaker 3: The podcast, and so you're only agreeing with him because
Speaker 3: that's how you felt. If they were saying otherwise, you
Speaker 3: would be like, it's.
Speaker 1: Not I'm not saying. If you go back and look
Speaker 1: at the comments that I've liked, I liked good and bad.
Speaker 1: I liked ones that were like, yeah, give Molly the job,
Speaker 1: it's gonna shake things up in there. Those were There
Speaker 1: were plenty of comments like that, and then there are
Speaker 1: other people who are like, mm mmmm, it's given, it's given,
Speaker 1: ticky ticky boom. I liked some of those as well.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying that you're you're you're telling people
Speaker 1: that they were being mean and the internet is blah
Speaker 1: bla blah blah blah. The internet is can definitely be
Speaker 1: a mean place. People feel very bold behind a computer
Speaker 1: or a phone screen, and they'll say things that they
Speaker 1: wouldn't say in real life. But also, Molly put her
Speaker 1: herself out there. She jumped on this platform. She knew
Speaker 1: what it was. She thought she was gonna be funnier,
Speaker 1: she thought she was gonna be more relatable. I guess,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but that's not what came across. And
Speaker 1: people called her on it.
Speaker 2: And also take that to the Bank, Molly, that you
Speaker 2: had a lot of people talking about your hour as well,
Speaker 2: you know, Bank, like, yeah, well.
Speaker 1: We're talking about her right now. She used to be
Speaker 1: one of y'all.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, Shed.
Speaker 3: And it doesn't matter if they had positive or negative reviews.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you that what they all agreed on
Speaker 3: is Andrew needed a raise.
Speaker 1: Like everybody loved Andrew.
Speaker 2: There were there were a few mean comments towards me
Speaker 2: scattered throughout, but really there were a few that there
Speaker 2: were that it seemed like I was being protective of
Speaker 2: my position with you both.
Speaker 3: Well, sir, you're the producer, so I mean she Molly
Speaker 3: wasn't gonna take your job.
Speaker 2: So I'm just saying, I'm just saying, nah, not a
Speaker 2: blanket term. Not all the comments were were fully for me,
Speaker 2: but I do this.
Speaker 1: Is what I'm saying. All the comments were not anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all of the comment it was. It wasn't all one
Speaker 1: thing or all another thing. They were kind of all
Speaker 1: over the place. But the general consensus was, yeah, let
Speaker 1: Sydney work with her first, and if she's still alive
Speaker 1: in three months, then you could bring her on as
Speaker 1: a team. And I said I liked those. I thumbs
Speaker 1: up to those. I said, I penned those. Hilarity.
Speaker 3: Wait, do we have any We have some emails, I know,
Speaker 3: but I didn't.
Speaker 1: Read them before. I don't. I don't like to read
Speaker 1: them without reading them first. Damn.
Speaker 2: Do you not want them?
Speaker 3: Then?
Speaker 1: Huh? Well, I mean said some the other day that
Speaker 1: we we didn't get to. But let me look.
Speaker 2: This one's really long.
Speaker 3: Yeah if it's too long? So many words?
Speaker 1: Mmmm? Is it the one about ghosting? Okay, I'll just
Speaker 1: read it. I'll read it real. Oh no, it's so long.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Oh okay, but she included a bunch of photos.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, Wow, Okay, here, so I'll read the ghosting
Speaker 1: one ready. Okay, yeah, yeah, Hey Sidney, Marie and Andrew
Speaker 1: Boo boo boo, Amali in parenthesies. No, she's not here.
Speaker 1: Longtime listener here looking for some insight advice on a
Speaker 1: perfect date that somehow went wrong. Please include music from
Speaker 1: Snapped in the background, okay, like you know, or Twilight
Speaker 1: Zone music. Before I jump in, here's a little info
Speaker 1: on me. I'm a twenty four year old bisexual woman
Speaker 1: living in Toronto and have written into the show before, oh,
Speaker 1: regarding having my first one night stand in January and
Speaker 1: being choked in a white man's basement Sydney. This is
Speaker 1: the one that we were talking about in San Francisco.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, let's goh.
Speaker 1: He repeat.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know what episode you guys got to go
Speaker 1: back to to hear her story, but that's a repeat.
Speaker 1: It was on a Patreon too, the one we did
Speaker 1: a video I love Okay, so gorgeous. Great to see
Speaker 1: you again, Bange. How you doing girl? Yes, I'm still
Speaker 1: out here making questionable decisions. Ever since that first one
Speaker 1: night stand, I entered a little bit of a whole
Speaker 1: phase and would do my thing, go on dates or
Speaker 1: sleep with them, et cetera, and with someone and probably
Speaker 1: ghost them afterwards. I'm not proud of it, but like sometimes,
Speaker 1: the dick was trash and I really didn't want to
Speaker 1: associate it with them. No more. We love her, yarroh,
Speaker 1: we love it. Okay. Fast forward to a few weeks ago.
Speaker 1: I haven't been on a date or even seen anyone
Speaker 1: in a while. Shout out to COVID until I met
Speaker 1: this girl. Okay, lean in, lean In. We started talking
Speaker 1: for a little bit and found out we had a
Speaker 1: lot in common and the chemistry was instantly great. We
Speaker 1: met up and even went on low key picnic in
Speaker 1: the park and really enjoyed ourselves. Oh okay, wow making
Speaker 1: out Okay. After that date, we talked every day until
Speaker 1: we made plans to meet up a week later. This time,
Speaker 1: we went to a busy part of the city, got drinks, food,
Speaker 1: spent our day together. She even surprised me buying me
Speaker 1: a plant as a gift.
Speaker 3: Huh, that's something that I would do. Yes, keep going, Oh,
Speaker 3: that is something you would do.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. We were very flirty and very close. It was
Speaker 1: clear she was into me, and I was making it
Speaker 1: clear that I was into her too. Okay, the cities
Speaker 1: was out, Uh did She didn't say that things got
Speaker 1: weird when the date was winding down. Nothing changed between us.
Speaker 1: We're still cracking jokes and being cute and shit, until
Speaker 1: suddenly it stopped. She got really quiet and a bit distance,
Speaker 1: but I chalked it up to being out in the
Speaker 1: sun too long and smoking a little weed and didn't
Speaker 1: think too much of it. She walks me home. I
Speaker 1: invite her up to my apartment. I thought it was
Speaker 1: my chance to finally pull a move, but instant this
Speaker 1: girl spends the whole time.
Speaker 3: My cat, my actual cat, not my possess. And when
Speaker 3: she ends up.
Speaker 1: Leaving to go back home, she literally gave me the
Speaker 1: cold shoulder. I'm talking about the one armed hug situation.
Speaker 3: Oh come on, Marie, The barely.
Speaker 1: Making eye contact kind of goodbye, the little awkward wave
Speaker 1: and head nod as she walks away without looking back.
Speaker 1: You gotta do to look back, just to see if
Speaker 1: they're looking at you. You know WHOA. That was the
Speaker 1: last time I heard from her. It's been a week
Speaker 1: since and we haven't talked once. I'm genuinely at a
Speaker 1: loss because I'm not sure what went wrong. I went
Speaker 1: over the whole day in my head and thought maybe
Speaker 1: I said something or I did something weird or offensive,
Speaker 1: but I couldn't think of anything. We really hit it
Speaker 1: off and had a good time smiles and good vibes.
Speaker 1: As an expert in ghosting, I know sometimes you just
Speaker 1: don't feel it anymore but and cut contact for whatever reason.
Speaker 1: But I honestly thought we were vibing and meshing really well.
Speaker 1: I've never been ghosted before. Everybody at the same time.
Speaker 1: Oh so maybe this is karma finally catching up to me.
Speaker 1: Is this a sign for me to stop ghosting? What
Speaker 1: advice can you give me? I'm pretty bummed things didn't
Speaker 1: work out, but more so curious as to what reasons
Speaker 1: she would have. It really seemed like it was going
Speaker 1: well as usual. Here's some pics of me so you
Speaker 1: can get a full visual. Let me see.
Speaker 3: Oh she's cute, God, Oh she's hot.
Speaker 1: I like here she is with some pasta.
Speaker 3: Okay, now a question, y'all are hanging out or whatever?
Speaker 3: Is she pain all time? Are y'all going Dutch?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: Cause that that kid? Like we hanging out too many times?
Speaker 3: And I'm putting my car down. I can feel some
Speaker 3: double way. I'm like, m I don't know.
Speaker 1: She said she bought her a plant as a gift.
Speaker 1: They were very flirty. Things got weird when the date
Speaker 1: was winding down. Nothing changed, we were still cracking jokes
Speaker 1: and and it just she suddenly just got quiet. Did
Speaker 1: she get a text from an ex? No, she must
Speaker 1: have got a message or something that made her that
Speaker 1: put her in her own head or something right right.
Speaker 3: Maybe, but still like, I don't know. If we just
Speaker 3: started talking and having a I'd be like, can you
Speaker 3: believe this nigga just text me? Like I would have
Speaker 3: casually mentioned it. I like, we're not We're not serious,
Speaker 3: Like we're just we've been hanging out. It's not if
Speaker 3: there's no reason to not be honest when there's nothing
Speaker 3: really at stake.
Speaker 1: Y'all are in the beginning. Okay, so I understand what
Speaker 1: you're saying. But maybe this is maybe if somebody she'd
Speaker 1: been with for a while, maybe it was the person
Speaker 1: that she just broke up with. If that person messages you,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm necessarily on a date gonna
Speaker 1: say can you believe this man just texted me? Because
Speaker 1: then I'm talking about then I'm talking about my old
Speaker 1: relationship on a first, second, third day. Like, there's a
Speaker 1: time and place I think to talk about people you
Speaker 1: used to talk to based on how you feel about
Speaker 1: them too.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, but
Speaker 3: I just listen. Guys, y'all have got to fucking grow up. If, like,
Speaker 3: just if you don't want to deal with somebody anymore,
Speaker 3: just give them the goodbye. Like, hey, I thought I
Speaker 3: wanted like to date you, or I was looking forward
Speaker 3: to blah blah blah, but my mind changed. I'm not
Speaker 3: in a place that just give somebody an ending so
Speaker 3: they don't have to fucking go in their head over
Speaker 3: and over and over and try to figure out what
Speaker 3: the fuck happened, right, Just say hey, I like, I'm good,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry things didn't work out, and send them on
Speaker 3: their way.
Speaker 1: It's especially especially if it's the person. If the person
Speaker 1: was nice, nice, Yeah, it's a nice person, there's no
Speaker 1: reason to ghost them, like it's for me, honestly, truly,
Speaker 1: it's easy to just tell them the truth. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: easier to be like, hey, you know, maybe the reason is, hey,
Speaker 1: I think I jumped into this too soon, I'm all ready.
Speaker 1: We'll hit them with the Yeah, you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: really feeling it. The vibes weren't there for me, two
Speaker 1: things that I've said to two different men, So yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not really feeling the vibes or you know, just yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought that I was ready for this, but I
Speaker 1: guess I'm not, or you know, I'll be in touch
Speaker 1: and then actually be in touch.
Speaker 3: It's just like we went through a whole fucking pandemic,
Speaker 3: like the worst of the worst has happened. The least
Speaker 3: you can do is give somebody a closing like, hey,
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not really feeling this. You think it
Speaker 3: hurts to tell somebody I'm not into you, but it
Speaker 3: actually hurts more when you give them no answer at all,
Speaker 3: because they're just gonna be thinking about, like, what did
Speaker 3: they do wrong?
Speaker 1: I think that, Yara, something that you could have done
Speaker 1: differently and should do differently next time. Is what's wrong?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, if it goes from hot to cold to
Speaker 3: be like is everything good?
Speaker 1: And I'm inviting you to the house and you playing
Speaker 1: with my cat put out my cat, I'm gonna be like, hey,
Speaker 1: are you okay? And then see how they respond because
Speaker 1: something definitely happened. Yeah, something I definitely went down.
Speaker 3: Something, something went down. She I don't know, y'all. You
Speaker 3: gotta let us know what's she paying?
Speaker 1: What's she paying? What were you wearing? Did you call somebody?
Speaker 1: Was a slur used? Like what happened in Toronto that day?
Speaker 3: Something happened, Something definitely happened.
Speaker 1: Did she sneeze and you didn't say? Let you like, girl,
Speaker 1: what happened?
Speaker 3: But if you're not feeling it, and then I still
Speaker 3: come up to your place, I mean, what could it
Speaker 3: have been happened? What possibly has happened with me? Is
Speaker 3: like I just want to see your place, like I
Speaker 3: want to check it.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool? Yeah, I'm inviting you to my house. If
Speaker 1: you're if we're on a date and I'm inviting you
Speaker 1: to my house, then you know what it is and
Speaker 1: you know what it ain't. Granted. When we get to
Speaker 1: my house, I can change my mind. Maybe you can
Speaker 1: get shoes off, and I'm like, ill, the sock, that's
Speaker 1: the socks? Yeah, film the socks or I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm in my house and the vibes are off,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you to leave. But why are you
Speaker 1: coming up to my house if you don't, if you
Speaker 1: don't want to even acknowledge me in my home. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the weird thing.
Speaker 3: That's that's the thing that I'm like, you don't have
Speaker 3: to come up to somebody's house and fuck, but you
Speaker 3: definitely can't come up to somebody's house and be acting
Speaker 3: all like distant giving me church ladyhook. Yeah, that's weird.
Speaker 3: That's disrespectful. And you could take your ass home. You
Speaker 3: can always take your ass home. You don't have to
Speaker 3: do anything. You could if you're in a bad mood
Speaker 3: or the vibes are, you can go home, sweetie, go home, sweetye.
Speaker 3: I like that title as well, go home, sweet home sweetie.
Speaker 1: I mean she worked her home. She a plan.
Speaker 3: That feels like a good day to me.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, up until it got weird.
Speaker 2: It's also been like a full month since this email
Speaker 2: from Yara, so I'm wondering if there's been any updates since.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yara, if you're listening, please please.
Speaker 2: But also she didn't mention I think this might go
Speaker 2: without saying, but this like barely making eye contact goodbye
Speaker 2: that they had. She said that that was the last
Speaker 2: she heard from her, and it's been a week and
Speaker 2: they haven't talked once. But Yara didn't mention if she's
Speaker 2: tried reaching out. Yeah, did she ever say.
Speaker 1: That, I don't be in here your babe, sweetie?
Speaker 2: Follow up?
Speaker 1: Please give us the Please give us a follow up
Speaker 1: on this, because I think that sometimes for our peace
Speaker 1: of mind, it's easier to just ask, hey, is everything okay?
Speaker 1: Like I thought things were cool? What happened? And then
Speaker 1: give them a chance to see if they're even gonna
Speaker 1: be honest with you. They're gonna lie. But sometimes you
Speaker 1: sometimes you just don't get closure from these things. You're
Speaker 1: not guaranteed closure with every single person that you do with. No, No,
Speaker 1: you don't have to get closure.
Speaker 3: But if you're listening to this podcast, you're not always
Speaker 3: gonna get closure. But I think it's it's okay to
Speaker 3: give someone closure. Don't feel like, oh, I don't have
Speaker 3: to do anything like I Sometimes I want to end
Speaker 3: things so that we don't have to discuss this. No mo,
Speaker 3: So there's no back and forth, right if you if
Speaker 3: you let somebody know, el fiend, this is the end,
Speaker 3: then if they hit you back up, that's on them.
Speaker 3: You know, it's a power move to be honest. It's
Speaker 3: a power move to end things and be like I'm
Speaker 3: I'm all set on this. But it's also a power thing.
Speaker 3: When you don't give someone a reason and you have
Speaker 3: them guessing, that's it's a power thing. But I think
Speaker 3: that's a toxic.
Speaker 1: It's also a cowardly thing too. Though it's easy to
Speaker 1: just say, hey, I don't really like you like that,
Speaker 1: or you know what, when you smiled at me, the
Speaker 1: sun bounced off your tooth and hit me in the
Speaker 1: eye and I didn't like that, Like give me a
Speaker 1: reason or just like, like to be a woman, ghosting
Speaker 1: another woman feels like a little bit of a hate crime.
Speaker 1: It is a hate crime like this, I get a
Speaker 1: tamp on that one time, Like what do you girl?
Speaker 3: You have my hair tie in your hair right now,
Speaker 3: and then you're gonna ghost me.
Speaker 1: Beach, I gave you a scrunchy when you needed it
Speaker 1: the most, and you're not gonna tell me what happened. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean just say that for the men. But even then,
Speaker 1: like it's easier to just be honest, just in all
Speaker 1: aspects of life. I think it's just easier to tell
Speaker 1: the truth than it is to lie or omit things,
Speaker 1: because sometimes you be forgetting your lies or sometimes you
Speaker 1: sit there and you're like, well, why did I what
Speaker 1: happened with that?
Speaker 3: Her?
Speaker 1: Damn?
Speaker 3: And if you want us to do the legwork, just
Speaker 3: send us her email. You got her number, I'll text her,
Speaker 3: I'll call her. Yeah, I'll call her.
Speaker 1: And we still yeah what Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't have any problem with checking in and being like, yo,
Speaker 3: what's really good?
Speaker 1: Nah?
Speaker 3: I mean you you ghosted my good siss a month ago?
Speaker 1: What happened? What happened was yeah, message Mali at assistant,
Speaker 1: Mali at assistant do yeah.
Speaker 3: Imagine if she emails that would be funny, though, that
Speaker 3: would be fun.
Speaker 1: I feel like I used to ghost people, but I
Speaker 1: don't do that anymore. What was her reasoning? I didn't
Speaker 1: really like them to begin with, so okay, that's real
Speaker 1: or you know sometimes they like sometimes they'll say the
Speaker 1: wrong thing. But like also when I say used to ghost,
Speaker 1: I don't do that anymore. Like it's just easier, especially
Speaker 1: if a dude is persistent and like, you know, we've
Speaker 1: spent more than just one time together, then it's it's
Speaker 1: just easier to tell a nice person, hey, I'm not
Speaker 1: really feeling this. Yeah, you know, the person's not mean,
Speaker 1: they didn't do anything bad to you, Like tell them
Speaker 1: the truth.
Speaker 3: It's annoying to be shut down, But like y'all got
Speaker 3: to also be able to take these ls too, Like
Speaker 3: if somebody's like, I'm not into you, like, okay, just
Speaker 3: take it, like, don't fight it, because that also is
Speaker 3: what makes people not want to be honest. You're like
Speaker 3: me because you're like, oh, what can I do? You know,
Speaker 3: I just know they don't like you. It's okay, Yeah,
Speaker 3: well what can I do? You got to change your face? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I hate the you were sweet? Yeah, your pasture is terrible, terrible,
Speaker 3: it's given terodaptyal beak, it's not straight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I think it's just easier for
Speaker 1: me as a grown up now because what happens when
Speaker 1: you guys are out that now that outside is open,
Speaker 1: you out when you bump into this person in the wild.
Speaker 3: Yeah, now now it's awkward.
Speaker 1: Because your ass couldn't couldn't say what you needed to
Speaker 1: say to me. Yeah, and I'm gonna roll up on
Speaker 1: you if I got enough to kill it in my sisters,
Speaker 1: Well that's what I remember when I want to die. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fight, well, not me. If I see somebody.
Speaker 1: If somebody shows me that they're not interested in me,
Speaker 1: then I obviously that person is dead to me. May
Speaker 1: they rest in peace. If I see you out in public,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be looking good.
Speaker 3: My friends will always all without a doubt, without a doubt,
Speaker 3: all the.
Speaker 1: More reason to not go outside in a bonnet, because
Speaker 1: you gotta be looking amazing, just.
Speaker 3: To say somebody who ghosted you was there. That's one
Speaker 3: thing that we're gonna do. We're gonna we're gonna pull
Speaker 3: up and it's gonna look.
Speaker 1: Good, right good. We're gonna be late, but we're gonna
Speaker 1: look good.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's a great thing. I'm probably could have
Speaker 3: been in the same room with somebody I used to
Speaker 3: have sex with, but I came so late that they
Speaker 3: left already. I missed the window to see them exactly.
Speaker 1: And you know what, who is that, God, God, universe? Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I think we did what we needed to do. We did.
Speaker 3: Oh my God, so proud of us. We haven't had
Speaker 3: a solo in a minute. So that was cute. Thank
Speaker 3: you friends, and idless I was as well. I was
Speaker 3: as well sprise. So you know, after hearing everything that
Speaker 3: we say, you know, just comment more, bitch, comment more
Speaker 3: if you like. We just there was no drama here,
Speaker 3: so you know what I mean? If you have, you
Speaker 3: want to say one.
Speaker 1: Hundred and forty one hundred and I want to see
Speaker 1: one hundred comments under this post, even when we boasted.
Speaker 3: Not asking, not not asking for too much? Y'all, just
Speaker 3: one hundred and forty comments.
Speaker 1: Talk amongst yourselves, poor. But also we want to hear
Speaker 1: about your last your last ghosting experience. Have you been ghosted?
Speaker 1: Have you ghosted somebody? Yeah? Tell us why and give
Speaker 1: us a little synopsis.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to know when your last ghost and why.
Speaker 3: And then hopefully the person who you ghosted is also
Speaker 3: listening to the pot and they can see in a thread.
Speaker 3: If it's the reason why, we can all get some
Speaker 3: closure in the comments. Closure in the comments. Look at
Speaker 3: that in the comment, closure in the comments.
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