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Speaker 1: Everybody. It's a Bill Courtney with an army of normal folks.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Shop Talk number thirty nine. Welcome in. How

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Speaker 1: you doing, Alex? Yeah, good to be in the shop.

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Speaker 1: Got an email from Judy Anne. I hope it's NEB.

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Speaker 1: What do you think any e B?

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Speaker 2: Need? Yeah? What else would it be?

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Speaker 1: Judy and need or NEB?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but probably need forgiving.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Judy Anne says. Hi. Bill absolutely love your podcast.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Judy Anne. Please tell everybody about it so

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Speaker 1: we can grow it. I have a suggestion for a

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Speaker 1: shop Talk.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: Judy Ane gets yay, she's in this show. I spend

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Speaker 1: several hours a week with elderly people. The number one

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Speaker 1: complaint among them is that they are lonely. Please encourage

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Speaker 1: your listeners to spend more time with their parents, grandparents,

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Speaker 1: or elderly neighbors. Just an hour can really brighten their

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Speaker 1: whole week. Thank you for changing the world, one normal

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Speaker 1: folk at a time. Big fan, Judy Anne, Need need

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Speaker 1: Well you said it says D here, Really it says

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Speaker 1: need one, says B. One says D Judy Anne, I'm

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Speaker 1: butchering your name. I don't know if it's need or need.

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Speaker 3: I'll look it up and I'm pretty sure it's need.

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Speaker 1: Need.

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Speaker 1: It's Needeh Okay, Judy and need.

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Speaker 2: So oh that's my fault. She actually wrote it right

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Speaker 2: in the email. Well you can't tye and you can't read.

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Speaker 2: As we found out we were doing.

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Speaker 1: That apparently not Shot Talk number thirty nine. Give your

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Speaker 1: time to some lonely folks. I think it's really valuable,

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Speaker 1: and I have a a short story about why it matters,

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Speaker 1: and Mike com matter for you too. Right after these

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Speaker 1: brief messages from our general sponsors, Hey everybody, welcome back.

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Speaker 1: Shop Talk number thirty eight. Judy Anne neb. We've cleared

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Speaker 1: that up to remind you absolutely love your podcast. Have

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Speaker 1: a suggestion for a shop Talk. I spent several hours

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Speaker 1: a week with elderly people. The number one complain about

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Speaker 1: them among them is that they are lonely. Please encourage

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Speaker 1: your listeners spend more time with their parents, grandparents, and

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Speaker 1: early neighbors. Justin hour can really brighten their whole week.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for changing the world, one normal folk at

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Speaker 1: a time. Big fan, Judy Anne Need, Thanks Judy Anne.

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Speaker 1: My maternal grandmother, Janice Schubert was an amazing woman. She

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Speaker 1: She was not your typical you know, when you hear grandmother,

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Speaker 1: that was not my grandmother. My grandmother actually was a

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