1 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the to the pod. 2 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 2: You know what time it is. It's off the edge 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: of me, your host Cam jordan' oh man. 4 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: We're getting blessed. We're getting blessed with two for. Here 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: we go, We're getting blessed with a two for. 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: You know about Adam Thielen is a pro bowler, you know, 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 2: just just a guy who was a stable for the 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 2: Minnesota Bike is now with Carolina Panthers Wide receiver one 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: for real. I mean when you talking about possession receiver, 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 2: my guy is fris Is Stack. 11 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: Put it loon one. Bryce, We're gonna talk to you too. 12 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: It fell the come on. 13 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 2: We were sitting next to Bryce Young showing a miss 14 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: talent and mist growth this year. I mean, what you 15 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: overcame this year was nothing short of amazing, just because 16 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: you know, there was a stint where uh you know, 17 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: the red rocket came in. 18 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: And was out there throw a red rocket rifle. I've 19 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: always messed that. 20 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 3: Up, but anywhere. 21 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, but Andy Dalton, you know, and then you took 22 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: over and you came back with a vengeance. 23 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 4: My boy appreciation. 24 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: What's your mindset like? 25 00:00:59,120 --> 00:00:59,959 Speaker 4: Uh, just just. 26 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 5: Want to keep stacking, you know, just want to be consistent. 27 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 5: While I was doing I was gravy for the opportunity. 28 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 5: And then I just want to be be consistent, lean 29 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 5: on guys like this, uh, which which helped, you know, 30 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 5: just lean on the team, and yeah, I just want 31 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 5: to be. 32 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: A picture of consistency. 33 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 2: Adam feeling, come on, man, wherever they put you, you 34 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: show out and you don't get the process that you deserve. 35 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna give your flowers now. Boy, it's 36 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 2: always it's always pleasure to see you. You take the 37 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: field and like, no, Adam feeling like he's getting older. 38 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: You can guard them, and yet you snag everything. I'm like, bo, 39 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: stop disrespecting people that don't need to be disrespected. 40 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 3: Man, Well, we and I talk about a lot. You know. 41 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 6: I'm just really good at finding zones, you know, find 42 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 6: holes in the defense. 43 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: Not fast enough to beat man the man cover just. 44 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: You know, wow, tell them I'm white without saying craft, 45 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: you understand the defensive spot. I don't like it for you, bro, No, 46 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: I've seen I've seen the burners on. You know we're 47 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: not doing that. But I mean, just you guys, chemistry, 48 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: how did that? How did that go along? This last 49 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: two years? 50 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: Now? 51 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, well for me, honestly, just just coming in his 52 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 5: rookie not knowing how to you know, not know what 53 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 5: you expect, not knowing what what everything was trying to 54 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 5: find my footing. Having a guy like Adam who has 55 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 5: had so much success for so long he was I 56 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 5: appreciate he was super super communicative. 57 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 4: Is that how you say that communicative communicator? I appreciate. 58 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 4: I see what I was like. 59 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 3: I just go over it. 60 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 5: But he communicated super well about He was super open 61 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 5: about about talking, Hey, this is how I see things? 62 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 4: How do you see things? Just want to be on 63 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 4: the same page. 64 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 5: And having that urgency about it for me as a 65 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 5: young guy coming in was super beneficial. And I was 66 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 5: always wont to hear his opinions on stuff because you know, 67 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 5: he had seen a lot more He's seen a lot 68 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 5: more NFL ball than I had one to hear that, 69 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 5: and him making himself available and then obviously that translates 70 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 5: to the field of you know, it's a lot gets 71 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 5: open a lot, So it's always just crafty. 72 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly exactly his own covers man. 73 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 5: So I'm always uh, yeah, he he makes it makes 74 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 5: it a lot easier for me to be a position. 75 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: Look, you with Obama. You you've been to Carolina. You 76 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 2: guys have ran in some country, you. 77 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 6: Know, like, but you got a receiver to you didn't 78 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 6: want sc right, Yeah, I mean Bama of the North. 79 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: I guess. 80 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 6: About they think about Mankato. Uh, it's a southern Minnesota. Wow, 81 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 6: we can just call it's Minnesota state. It sounds a 82 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 6: little better. 83 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I was born to eating prairie. 84 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 2: But what we're not gonna do is ever say Minnesota 85 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 2: anywhere is country. It's Canada. It's the very nice, polite people. 86 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 2: But I mean, let's talk about the kid Xavier. I'm 87 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: not even leg leget Okay, yeah that makes sense. When 88 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: he talks, I cannot like. And I've been I've been 89 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: to Opelousas, I've been to Lake Charles. I mean, I'm 90 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 2: throughout Louisiana. No, it's he's one of those like New 91 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: Iberia types. 92 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 6: My favorite thing is in receiver meetings is no one 93 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 6: knows what he's saying except for me. So so Coach 94 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 6: more will literally ask me a question, Xavier will respond 95 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 6: and then Coach will immediate look to me like what 96 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 6: did he say? And I have to translate and then 97 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 6: everyone's like why are you the one who's translating. It 98 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 6: doesn't make any sense, but for some reason, I just 99 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 6: understand what he's saying. 100 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: Ah, got it, got it? Hints why is the south 101 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: of the North? Yeah? 102 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 3: Exactly. 103 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: So in a huddle, yeah, you called out a play. 104 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 105 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: In practice he comes to you when he starts talking 106 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: to you. Hey, I mean I've. 107 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 4: Gotten better too. 108 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 5: I honestly I feel like at first adjustment, but like 109 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 5: I think, going to Bama, we had a couple of 110 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 5: guys that I'm not gonna lie. He's he's the most egregious, 111 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 5: but we've had a couple of guys that were closed. 112 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 5: So I've gotten better. And when we have union meetings 113 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 5: to this day, like he'll say something. Whenever he says 114 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 5: something in union meeting, he'll say, you know, something like normal, 115 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 5: I'm gonna try to do his voice, but something like okay, 116 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 5: so I got an outside released on that and legit 117 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 5: will be signed for two sakes. Everyone just start cracking 118 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 5: up and like this is like week seventeen. I'm like, bro, 119 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 5: I heard him, Like is everyone still this behind? 120 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: Yes? 121 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 4: So I think I've adjusted a little bit. 122 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 5: It's just yesterday I seen him, Uh and it was 123 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 5: like a little loud where we were at and it 124 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 5: was dark. So I'm like, all right, bro, I'm not 125 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 5: gonna lie man, like I can't Like normally I do better, 126 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 5: I know, but like not right now, Like I can't 127 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 5: even reach your lips. 128 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie this. We can't have a conversation. 129 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: I just want to know. 130 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: Like, like we saw the viral clips of like Thanksgiving 131 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: came around and he came in with the. 132 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: With the coon. He tried it right there with the raccoon. 133 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: There we go. 134 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, yo, who actually, Like 135 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: I've ate some wild stuff, Like I've gone to Japan, 136 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 2: I've ate some wild stuff. I've gone to Korea. I've 137 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 2: gone to you know whatever, Egypt. I've had some some 138 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 2: some random meats. You know, I've gone to Liberia and 139 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 2: had some bush meet pauls wild And then when I 140 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 2: think about just like so he comes in with you 141 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: know whatever whatever it was, it was raccoon right tried it. 142 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 3: Well, here's the deal. 143 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 6: So SO built a pretty good relationship with him over 144 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 6: over the year, you know, and he's my guy. I mean, 145 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 6: I love that kid. He's a great kid, works hard. 146 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 6: He tried to do things the right way. So when 147 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 6: you have a guy like that, you just kind of 148 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 6: root for guys like that, right as you know. 149 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 3: And so anyways, we build up a strong relationship. 150 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 6: So over the season he's like, hey, man, like raccoon 151 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 6: is so good, Like you'll like it, I promise you. 152 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 6: I'm like, all right, like you know, we got a 153 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 6: good relationship. I'll trust you. I'll try it. So, you know, 154 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 6: he kept saying he's gonna bring in never did. Finally, 155 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 6: around Thanksgiving time, brings it in to the locker room 156 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 6: and it's like it's like he didn't have it in 157 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 6: the cooler, like it was just like in a tupperware 158 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 6: and he's like just like carrying it through the locker 159 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 6: room like not cold, like this is just like you, 160 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 6: this is room temperature. 161 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 3: Raccoon. You tried it and I tried it. 162 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: Did you try it? That's my last question. I did 163 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: not try it. 164 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 3: I have super spece. 165 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. 166 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 6: Tap out and uh yeah, yes tomorrow I got nothing 167 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 6: so I'll see them all. So anyways, I took a 168 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 6: little pinch of it and I tried it. 169 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: It was like it's like a pitch of dip and he. 170 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 6: Swears that it's like good, and it's not good. Yeah, 171 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 6: it's not good. It's just like super well they obviously 172 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 6: his I think it's his uncle who makes it and 173 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 6: is like he swears, but oh, he's the only one 174 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 6: that can cook, the only one I'll eat it from. 175 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 6: And so I think they just put so much seasoning 176 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 6: on it. It's like you're just tasting tasting seasoning, got it, 177 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 6: you know, but like the actual meat is like it's disgusting. 178 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: Ah, yeah, I figured, you know, I'm not I'm gonna 179 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 2: lie like I get it. They say, like raccoons wash 180 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: their hands for the eat. What is the guy to 181 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: do what they're eating? You know, Like I'm I'm savage. 182 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: I'm glad I tried it though, cause it's like, you know, 183 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: you now know you never want any raccoon again. 184 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, and like it's it's kind of cool, like how 185 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 6: many people have actually eaten raccoon? 186 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: Okay, I mean yeah, it's not gonna be me. 187 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: And I've had like random foods now, like I think 188 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: I've had horse and I didn't like wow, yeah, you know, 189 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: I hope I have never had dog. 190 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: But then again, I've gone to some places where I 191 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: never asked. 192 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 6: I think it just makes it worse that you like, 193 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 6: know what a raccoon is, you know what I mean, 194 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 6: Like if it was just like here's some meat, like 195 00:07:59,080 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 6: try it. 196 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, you might partake. Yeah, I'm like, you've had that 197 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 7: rabbit before, right, Yeah, I've had rabbit. That's fine with that, 198 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 7: Like rabbits. Rabbits are fine, right, you know in my 199 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 7: mind like eventually I'll have armadillo one day. I've had 200 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 7: snake multiple times, crocodile, crocodile. 201 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 202 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: I think I've even had like shark somewhere blue whale, 203 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: which will probably get me struck by peda. But of course, 204 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: come on, my my six year old, no, my yeah, 205 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: my six year old loves octopus. Goes out of her 206 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: way to say, yeah, dad, give me the give me 207 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 2: the legs, and I know exactly what she's talking about. 208 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, baby, Okay. 209 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 2: We also lived in Spain for three months, so like 210 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 2: I've opened up their minds to other things, you know, 211 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: lived in Spain and somewhere she became a fan of 212 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 2: of poopo, which is octopus, and she's. 213 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, give it, that's funny. Yeah, monsters not what 214 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: I was eating when I was six. 215 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, absolutely not. 216 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out how to create a chip 217 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: for these kids, cause these kids are growing up like 218 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: the NIL era college kids, Like what do they actually 219 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: have to want? 220 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: Like the video game? Yeah they get those, like, you know, 221 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about a food. I was going 222 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: to be there. Yeah, Like what where is their chip? 223 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: Their house? Amazing? 224 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 3: I know, I I often think about that. 225 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 6: I'm like, maybe when I'm done playing that we should 226 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 6: like move into like a you know, I don't know, yeah, 227 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 6: small little place just yeah, like hey, this is this 228 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 6: is like it's not just like you don't get to 229 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 6: just do whatever you want and have this cake little easy, 230 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 6: easy way in and out. But you know, I think 231 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 6: you just try to install those those that foundation and 232 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 6: and make sure that they understand, like you know that 233 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 6: you have to work hard and work for the things 234 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 6: you want, right, But it's hard to do. 235 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 2: It's hard to do, Like you can work hard and 236 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: do everything else, but you expect now to be rewarded. 237 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 6: I know, I know, I agree, it's it's tough, but 238 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 6: it makes you think differently when you have kids, right man. 239 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 2: That's all I'm like, I said, I'm trying to figure 240 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 2: this part out. I'm like, man, I've never had jay. 241 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 2: So I got to college and I bought them. My 242 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: kids came out like Jordan Brand athletes. 243 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, every year they got a new pair every year, 244 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 6: like every three bucks. 245 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 2: Like oh man, like we got the family set, you know, 246 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 2: like it's it's a beautiful, awesome thing to do. But 247 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, where's their chip? Anyways, I'm thinking, I'm thinking 248 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: in my in my line of working, I've seen you 249 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: start to grow in the space, which. 250 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: You never really did. 251 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 2: When I say space, the media space, Like, so you 252 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 2: see a future in the media, I mean the last 253 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: few years you started you started dabbling. 254 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I I really enjoy it. Definitely see a future. 255 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 6: I don't know what that looks like. But yeah, I 256 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 6: love talking. 257 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 3: About the ball. 258 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 6: I love meeting you guys talking about how they got 259 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 6: to where they are. I love all sports. So I 260 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 6: grew up playing four sports all the way through high school. 261 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 3: So yeah, so. 262 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: What's that Minnesota will be soccer? 263 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 3: We I never played soccer. 264 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: I was a soccer guy. 265 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 3: I don't know what it was. 266 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 6: I went to one soccer I have a soccer story, 267 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 6: but I went to one soccer practice when I was 268 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 6: probably five six years old, and my mom drops me off. 269 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 3: I get there. 270 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 6: The first thing we did was run laps around the 271 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 6: entire field, and I immediately never went back, never went 272 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 6: back to ever went to a soccer practice. Cover again, 273 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 6: like that, that's not me. Like, give me a ball 274 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 6: and give me a goal. I'm good, okay, But like 275 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 6: so the four sports football, basketball, baseball, and golf. 276 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: Oh wow, yep yep. 277 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 6: All the way through high school and then even even 278 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 6: my first year of college, came back and played summer 279 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 6: baseball just because I just I love to like I 280 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 6: love the. 281 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,599 Speaker 3: Change of scenery. You know, I got a little add 282 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 3: you know. 283 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody's ever said, oh man, yours focus is so strong. No, no, no, 284 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:35,479 Speaker 2: it's it's fleeting. 285 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 6: Yeah and so and so I just wanted to change 286 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 6: the pace. And then that made me excited. 287 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 3: You know. 288 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 6: When it went from football to basketball season, it was 289 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 6: like a whole new challenge and got to lock in 290 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 6: and you got to practice, and like you have this 291 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 6: urgency to get better quickly because you have like two 292 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 6: week break between football season and basketball season to like 293 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 6: get your skills, you know, freshened up. Where most of 294 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 6: the kids are just playing basketball. So they've been playing 295 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 6: all fall ball and all that. It's like, no, I'm 296 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 6: gonna find a way to be better than you with 297 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 6: two weeks of practice. 298 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: For sure. 299 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 2: It's the competitive in you. Like that's how we stay competitive. 300 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 2: I love the idea of like not singlely focusing on 301 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 2: one sport. Yeah, kids these days are like oh yeah, 302 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 2: like thirteen years old, like, yeah, I'll just play football, 303 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 2: tackle football. 304 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: How do you just play one sport? 305 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 6: I I have parents come up to me all the time, like, 306 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 6: you know, at watching my kids play sports. 307 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: Hey, what do you what do you think of them? Yeah? 308 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 6: What do you think about Like, well that too, but 309 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 6: you know, you get to like what do you think 310 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 6: about multi sports? 311 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 3: Do you think they should be specialized or not? 312 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 6: You know, but I always think it's like I wouldn't 313 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 6: be where I am without the sports I played, like 314 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 6: without basketball, Like most of what I do is from basketball, right, 315 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 6: body control and you know, being able to feel the 316 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 6: game and like feel the space around you is mostly 317 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 6: from basketball. 318 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: High pointing the ball and stuff like that. 319 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 2: Social awareness Yeah, yeah, absolutely. In soccer, you driven on 320 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 2: the ball, you have to be aware of not only 321 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 2: with the defender in front of you. But who's coming 322 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 2: for you? Yeah from the side, wow, crazy from you know, 323 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: from whatever the attack it is. I mean basketball, the 324 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 2: same way as you're drilling up, dribbling up the court, 325 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: you could have a trailer headed your way. You could have, 326 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 2: you know, a guy that you you try to pass to, 327 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: but oh man, you know you can't make a cross 328 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: court of pass. I'm like if I did, if I 329 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 2: just played football, just imagine just growing up a defensive lineman. 330 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: How shifty are you going to be? 331 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 2: Not so shifty if all you do is grow up 332 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 2: as a wide receiver. Yeah, you're gonna be fast and catch, 333 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 2: but like, are you gonna be able to be physical? 334 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? 335 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 6: I always say like if I'm if I'm a scout 336 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 6: or if I'm a GM. Yeah, the first thing I'm 337 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 6: I'm watching is like, what what what they do in 338 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 6: high school basketball? Like were they scoring points where they 339 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 6: Like I don't want a guy that was a rebounder. Yeah, 340 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 6: I want a guy that was like dog getting the paint, 341 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 6: scoring points right, And like, that guy's gonna be good 342 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 6: receiver probably, And I want to I. 343 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: Want to know his mentality. Speaking of that, if you're 344 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 2: if you're a GM, right, are you gonna be like 345 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: the Ravens GM Eric da Costa, who who said they 346 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 2: use Madden ratings as part of their player of euation. 347 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 3: I am not using Man ratings for sure? 348 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: What next? Pff? 349 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 6: Uh definitely not pff no offensive pff people, But but 350 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 6: uh no. 351 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 3: I am. 352 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 6: I I just feel like there's so much of the 353 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 6: feel is gone from scouting. It's all numbers and all 354 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 6: the analytics, which some of that stuff is great, great, 355 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 6: but like there's no feel anymore. 356 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 3: You have some feel. 357 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 2: Guys, get guys, get get put up on this draft board, 358 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: gets after a combine, like he's got ten games worth 359 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 2: the film, and he gets excellent combine numbers, and next 360 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 2: thing you know. 361 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 7: It's like, oh man, he's jumped the leaderboard, Draft Stock 362 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 7: Rising Draft. 363 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: He's gonna lock in for top fifteen. You're like, excuse 364 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: the hell? 365 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 3: Right? 366 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 2: And then and then a year later you're like, oh man, 367 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 2: we had such high hopes for him. Don't give up now, No, no, 368 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 2: you chose this man. 369 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 6: Well, I also love the like oh yeah, like, well, 370 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 6: we got good coaches, we'll coach them'll coach them, he'll, he'll, he'll. 371 00:14:58,920 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 3: Learn the game. 372 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 6: It's like, if you don't know, if you haven't like 373 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 6: figured out the game by the end of your college career, 374 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 6: like probably not going to just like magically fast out 375 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 6: in the NFL. Absolutely, and the coaches are I mean 376 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 6: obviously coaching. 377 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: Coaching matters. 378 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 3: Coaching matters officially now that I know, I was. 379 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: Like, oh, no, you can always overcome coaching. 380 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 2: I have officially had coaching in a position where I 381 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 2: was like, you can't overcome this. Yeah, there's there's there's 382 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 2: guys that try to outthink themselves in this game, and 383 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 2: sometimes you have to let people be great with they're 384 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: great at. 385 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 6: And I think I think it depends on where you're 386 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 6: at in your career too, Right, it's a bummer for 387 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 6: guys to come into the league and not have any direction. 388 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, not have like. 389 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 6: Solid mentorship and coaching, because if you put your energy 390 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 6: in it in the wrong direction, Uh, it can really 391 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 6: it can do. 392 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 393 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: You could be like if you if you had a 394 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 2: coach that understood technique, formation, recognition and help you in 395 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 2: those ways, you could become a better player. I'm I'm 396 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 2: now one hundred percent confirmed. I appreciate you tapping in 397 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 2: with me. In the pod. Thank you for being the 398 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 2: player you are being consistent and crafty. I could keep 399 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 2: keep on balling. I'm not going to ask you how 400 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 2: many years are going to have left. Guy, I see 401 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: you're gonna play in this game as long as you 402 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: want to. So you know it's not it's not clearly. 403 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: You know your mentality, your fortitude is whatever it's going 404 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 2: to be. 405 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 3: Yes, sir, Yeah, no, it's uh. 406 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 6: You know how it is like towards the end of 407 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 6: the year, you're like, man, I don't know if I 408 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 6: can do this anymore. 409 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. I got rebirth towards the end of 410 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: the year. I was like hell yeah, I was like, 411 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: give me all these reps I had for mine. 412 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 6: Anyways, I had two weeks after the season. I'm like, 413 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 6: oh this is I could play easy. My body's starting 414 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 6: to feel good. I got my energy back. 415 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: Uh. 416 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 6: You know it's like the end of the season es actually, 417 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 6: you know, like you have kids, like you have no 418 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 6: energy and you get home and you're like, I got 419 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 6: nothing for you. And so like having those two weeks 420 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 6: after the season, like you just like boom, like oh 421 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 6: this is awesome. 422 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 8: I forgot what it's like to like be able to, 423 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 8: like you get used to it, yeah, but anyways, appreciate it, yes, sir. 424 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 8: What a blessing to be a blessing to people you know, Yes, sir. 425 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 8: I hope, I hope you listeners are tuning in. 426 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 2: My guy Adam feeling is the epitome of what it 427 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 2: is to be a probe m m hm m m 428 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 2: m m m