1 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: I'm Buzznight, the host of the Taken o Walk podcast, 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: and here's another look at this week in music history 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: for the week of February tenth, and we go over 4 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: to the music history desk to musicologist, radio historian, radio legend, 5 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: media executive. What else can I pile on to your resume? 6 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: Harry Jacobs Welcome. 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: I appreciate the kind words and the musicologist. I kind 8 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 2: of like that. That's my favorite. And that's what we're 9 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 2: doing right because we're fans of music. That's it. The 10 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: week of February tenth kind of a kind of a 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: neat week. Some fun things to talk about. You know, 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: Alex van Halen's book just came out in October, and 13 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: it was this week in nineteen seventy eight that the 14 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: first Van Halen album came out. Remember hearing Eruption or 15 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: You Really Got Me? Remember how powerful that was to 16 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: hear Eddie van Halen ripping through You Really Got Me? 17 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: Those opening chords of that song, the way that they 18 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: did it. 19 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, they just burst down the scene and it just 20 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: was just like we hadn't really heard anything really like this. 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: This was something that kind of took us all on 22 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: a real ride and you know, through various generations of 23 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: the band, they continued to do that, you know, easily. 24 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: I love a half a dozen of those songs, if 25 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: not more. Shame now that he's gone and Van Halen 26 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 2: is probably done, you know, forever at this point. Yep. 27 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: In two thousand and eight, the fiftieth Annual Grammy Awards happened. 28 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: Amy Winehouse won five of them, including Best New Artists 29 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 2: and Record of the Year for Rehab. I always love 30 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: the Rehab. That's a song, Boy, that's a song. 31 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: We did not comprehend all of her amazing talent until 32 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: she left us Earth, and we also, I think didn't 33 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: really understand and the depth of her darkness either. 34 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: She was a troubled individual. There's no question the opioids 35 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: got their hook into her. And that rarely finishes well, 36 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 2: It really has a rarely has a really good ending. 37 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 2: There's a handful of people that you know that did 38 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 2: it at that level, that recovered. You know, Robert Downey's 39 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 2: got a good story, right, remember the horror stories, right, 40 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: you know, climbing into someone else's bed, in someone else's house, 41 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 2: and the craziness he did, and he got straight and 42 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 2: on the straight and narrow but then you you know, 43 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: you see Amy and she's the rule versus the exception. 44 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: It would seem right unfortunately, so yep. In nineteen sixty three, 45 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: February eleventh, the Beatles recorded Please Please Me, and it 46 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 2: was a one day session. It lasted ten hours at 47 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: Abbey Road Studios. Incredible ten hours of those boys driving 48 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 2: each other crazy, for sure. Twenty twelve, Whitney Houston passed 49 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: away in Beverly Hills. Speaking of torture, right, a lot 50 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 2: of torture there. Yeah, did you ever watch the reality 51 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: show with her and Bobby Brown? I did not. Oh, 52 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: this was, you know, right around the time I'm assuming 53 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 2: right after the Osborne's. I don't know where we are 54 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: chronologically with that, but that was a shit show. She 55 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: was another one. I mean it kind of goes hand 56 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: in hand with this Amy Winehouse conversation out about drugs 57 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: and just a sad, sad story from an unbelieve another 58 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: unbelievably talented singer and woman. Did you stay close? I mean, 59 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: you've been a rock guy your entire career, you know, musically, 60 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: and now since taking a walk and music Save Me, 61 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: you know, you're branching out the country. You're dealing with pop, 62 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: you're dealing with rap, You're dealing with all kinds of 63 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: different music. Have you been a guy that's been out 64 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: of that rock realm. I've known each other for forty years. 65 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: I've never asked you that question. Do you enjoy Did 66 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: you enjoy you know, Whitney Houston and Amy Winehouse and pop? 67 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: Do you appreciate it? Tell me talk to me about it? 68 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: Yes, and more so in later years, as the work 69 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: I would do for radio companies would expand beyond rock, 70 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: so I had to buy the nature of that as well. 71 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: I had to understand, you know, pop or just different genres, 72 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: never forgetting that pop actually is short for popular, which 73 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: is always interesting to come around and talk about. But 74 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: I had to branch out, and you know, it's it's 75 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: fun to do that, especially when there's music that can 76 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: kind of, you know, once again in a moment, just 77 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: you know, be that guilty pleasure. 78 00:04:55,040 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 2: You know. At the end of twenty twenty four, I 79 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: think the last week of the year, you re ran 80 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 2: your top five guests on taking a Walk, and I 81 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 2: went through that list blindly. Generally, we know what we're 82 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: going to talk about when we when we talk and 83 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: and I was so curious to see what you had, 84 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 2: what you had picked, And Carlos Santana was on that 85 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: that list and in two thousand, on February twelfth, he 86 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: won eight Grammy Awards for Supernatural. This is a perfect 87 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: example of someone getting a whole another life and a 88 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 2: whole nother audience. It's almost like the lives that Aerosmith 89 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 2: has had in terms of, you know, different iterations of 90 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: their music and you know, pre MTV, MTV, you know, 91 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: their breakup, all this stuff. Santana was, you know, a 92 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: classic rock artist that didn't have a lot of mainstream 93 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: exposure at that time. Certainly, you know, there were some 94 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: hits that got radio play, pop pop music, but this 95 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: album was unbelievable. Whole bunch of guest singers, I think, uh. 96 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 1: Rob Thomas from Matchbox twenty yeah, and Carlos is still, 97 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: you know, reimagining things in the way that he creates 98 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: these days. You know, we had on Music Saved Me 99 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: and on a Future Taking a Walk, Darryl run dmc McDaniels, 100 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: and Darryl and Carlos teamed up on this latest album 101 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: of Carlos's on some Music as well. So it's so 102 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: admirable that a guy is still curious. 103 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 2: He still you. 104 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: Know, bends the genres a bit along the way and 105 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: still is experimenting. 106 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 2: And and for those of you that are fans of 107 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: you know, Run DMC and Darryl just you know, a 108 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 2: quick shameless plug. Our other podcast Music Saved Me and 109 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 2: Taking Away Walk both feature time with him. There are 110 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 2: recent releases and if you haven't checked them out, check 111 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: them out. Linn Hoffin did an amazing job with him 112 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 2: and you, as always with Carlos. Were you on zoom 113 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: with him? Did you actually? Yeah? See all right, tell 114 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: me about a fanboy moment. Tell me about that. 115 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: It's just the wildest thing when because it came together 116 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: very quickly. It was the last minute, come together thing. 117 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: They're promoting tour dates for Live Nation, and it's just 118 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: surreal when you sign on and there you see the 119 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: legend himself right before your very eyes. You know, it's 120 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: just it's surreal. I can't put it any other way. 121 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: So I ultimately have to contain my fanboy noess, but 122 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: I can't contain it all Harry, you know that. 123 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's and then when you got some one like him, 124 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 2: it was just you know, a monster, It's it's amazing. 125 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: Nineteen seventy. February thirteenth, Black Sabbath released. Black Sabbath, often 126 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: regarded as the first real heavy metal album Paranoid and 127 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: iron Man. 128 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: I don't think back then we understood how significant it 129 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: was when it came out. I think it was it 130 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: was just different because of it. You know, it's hard, 131 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: and you know the heavy metal side and everything. But 132 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: when you really reflect on that one, for you know, 133 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: the core songs in particular, which are staples of you know, 134 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: rock radio, classic rock radio, it is really awesome to 135 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: this day to see what Black Sabbath did and was 136 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: all about. 137 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: There are these comparisons to you know, satanic and cults 138 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 2: and craziness. You know that people concocted about Black Sabbath 139 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 2: back then and for years then. Right oh, in two 140 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 2: thousand and five, Ray Charles won five Grammys and at 141 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: that point in two thousand and five, Ray Charles had 142 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 2: passed away, so he received those Grammys posthumously. 143 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: Always rather see them when they're alive, get them, That's 144 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: all I'll say on that. 145 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 2: You know, one of my favorite Beatles songs, All you 146 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:22,599 Speaker 2: Need Is Love. February fourteenth, nineteen seventy two, John and 147 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: Yoko felt that all they needed was love and decided 148 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: to spend their week long stay in and Bet the 149 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: Presidential Suite the Amsterdam Hilton Hotel promoting world peace. 150 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: Pretty badass move if you think about it. 151 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 2: Huge, huge move, huge move. I mean it's listen, it's 152 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: right up there with Bob Rivers staying on the radio 153 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: for ninety days when the Baltimore Orioles were losing. I 154 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 2: look at those two things similarly. That's right, it's a moment. Yeah, 155 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: there you go. I'll leave you with two more things here. 156 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 2: February sixteenth, Quickly, Sergeant Pepper's won four Grammy Awards, including 157 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 2: Album of the Year. It was the first rock album 158 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 2: to win Album of the Year. 159 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: I would have to say, my opinion, number one album 160 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: of all time. 161 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: You're not going to get a disagreement from me at all. 162 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: And this album set people like Brian Wilson and Phil Spector, 163 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 2: who we talked about in the last week's episode. This 164 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: set guys like that that were the geniuses that kind 165 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 2: of looked at themselves as competing with each other, you know, 166 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: at that time, and this set that world, especially Brian 167 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 2: Wilson on his side when Sergeant Pepper's came out, and 168 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: I agree, probably the best album, best rock album of 169 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: all time. Yep, quick last topic for this week in 170 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 2: music history. Also on February sixteenth, Ike Turner was incarcerated 171 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 2: for cocaine possession. Where can get another troubling chapter in 172 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 2: the life of Ike Turner. I cannot, for the life 173 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 2: of me think of a kind thing to say, so 174 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: I'm going to listen to my mother and what she 175 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 2: used to say, which was, if you don't have anything 176 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: nice to say, Harry, say nothing at all, And I'll 177 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 2: leave you with a final thought on Ike Turner. Talented, 178 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 2: but ugh, the ick It's just the ick factor is 179 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 2: high heavy ick factor. 180 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: Well, Harry, thanks for wrapping up another week in music 181 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: history the week of February tenth, and thanks for checking 182 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,599 Speaker 1: out the Taking a Walk podcast. 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