1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: This dude can go up and make plays. I think 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna be one of the best players on the 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: team this year. I do like the fact that even 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: if somebody gets hurt, you're never gonna have a secondary 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: unit out there where quarterback looks at the Ravens defense 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: and says, I'm going right here, like who do you 7 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: throw to? Who are you trying to pick on? If 8 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: you're a quarterback playing the Ravens this year, I mean, 9 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 1: there's no like week Lane. He already is fitting that 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: guy for a green jacket. Green jacket is gonna win 11 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 1: the master's gold jacket. Welcome into the lounge. We're officially 12 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: on summer break. Well, the players are great summer break. 13 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: I don't feel like it's on summer break. We're sitting 14 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: here in a freezing cold room taping a podcast. It's 15 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: so cold that I did the old tuck of my 16 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: arms into the T shirt scene right now, so I 17 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: can't really move. I don't have my usual nimbleness. You 18 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: look like a four year old. This move never fails, 19 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: never fails. So anyway, we're here to break down what 20 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: we've seen from O T A S and minicamp. It's myself, 21 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: Garrett and Clifton. Hello. Ryan likes pronouncing my name like 22 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: my fourth grade fantasy for reason. I think it makes 23 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: you sound more like a Transformer or like a superhero. Cliffton. Okay, 24 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: I'll take the Transformer check if anybody want. But yeah, 25 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: we have a lot to talk about here, and let's 26 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: start out by reading an email. This one comes in 27 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: from Mark Faye. This one's spicy, spicy, Mark Whistle. Mark says, 28 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: I always enjoy the Lounge episodes and other Ravens content 29 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,639 Speaker 1: late for work, Final Drive, news and notes. Hey, Cliff, 30 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: you write news and notes a lot Final Drive for Garrett. 31 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: There's nothing on here that I do. What the hell 32 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: uh says, but I will stop listening and reading if 33 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: I hear or see one more episode about the players 34 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: from last year who left get over it already. The 35 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: Ravens have lots of new talent focus on that. I'm 36 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: gonna blame this on Garrett because this came in the 37 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: morning after the Final Drive about Wink Martin Dale's reaction 38 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: to losing those guys. So I'll take this. I'll take 39 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: this one on the chain. I mean, I think Barba's 40 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: definitely well fired up. About that. But in my defense, 41 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: is the first time we heard from Wink since some 42 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: of those moves, and his point was, yes, those are 43 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: tough losses, but I'm also fired up about the new 44 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: guys and the young guys and all the opportunities we 45 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: have in front of us. So I was trying to 46 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: take that spin, not just focus on how are we 47 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: ever going to replace these players? Yeah, here's what I 48 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: think is unique about the situation. I mean, obviously, Terrell 49 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: Suggs is a legend here of fame. Here's the funny part. 50 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: Mark says, don't talk about these guys that are gonna 51 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: go into a long thing year about the guys that 52 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: left exact take this Mark, but uh, I mean, obviously 53 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: Suggs a legend, mostly really good. They were just so 54 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: shocking that I think, like, that's why people have talked 55 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: about it for so long. But here's what I don't 56 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: get is people talk about Eric Weddle, and I agree, 57 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: like losing Eric Weddle. He is a fan favorite, and 58 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 1: you know, releasing him was you know, surprising to see 59 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people, But we signed Earl Thomas. Let's 60 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: not pretend like like it was. I think the Ravens 61 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: feel like it was an upgrade at the position. Uh, 62 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: that's why they made the moves they did. So, like, 63 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: let's not forget about that. We got a six time 64 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: pro bowler and Earl Thomas. Yeah, I mean, look, then 65 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: watch oftentimes gets lost in the conversation. I think that 66 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: Wet is much different than the other guys because that 67 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: wasn't cut. I mean, the Ravens made that decision exactly, 68 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: so I think the Ravens expected c J and Sugs 69 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: to be back. Anyway, enough talking about guys that last, 70 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the guys that are here. That's where 71 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: we want to put our focus. Because I watched what 72 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: I saw during the offseason workouts during mini camp. Um, 73 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: let's start with that. Yeah, well, I think, really what 74 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: to to kick this off? We went into O T 75 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: A S in minicamp and everybody was talking about Lamar 76 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: Jackson and what's he gonna look like, how's this throwing 77 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: gonna look? Uh, Cliff, why don't you kick it off? 78 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: How do you think Lamar did? I think he looks 79 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: better as a thrower than the end of the the last year, 80 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: no question. I think it's fundamentals are more solid. I 81 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: think Um, he's still searching for more consistency. I think 82 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: that's the biggest challenge for him. Uh, kind of narrowing 83 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: the number of throws that really you wonder where they 84 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: came from. He has to reduce those from last year. 85 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: And to me, you're not really gonna know the story 86 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: until Sundays because you can work on fundamentals all you want. 87 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: When the lights are on, do you then revert to 88 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: what you always did, or do the new fundamentals kick in. 89 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: I love the work that you see him doing away 90 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: from the team with James Urban. I think a lot 91 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: of the drills you see him doing make a out 92 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,799 Speaker 1: of sense, whether it's ball protection, moving around in the pocket, 93 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: buying time. But we're really not gonna know until the 94 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: game start how much different Lamar is. But one thing 95 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: about him, you know how hard he works. I like 96 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: the way his upper body looks stronger. He's carrying himself 97 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: with an air of confidence, which I like to I 98 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: mean that, Yeah, I mean Lamar is an interesting guy 99 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: in that he's confident yet uh not with the big head, 100 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: very humble. Yeah, it's it's um, he's comfortable with being 101 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: who he is, So yeah, I think that gods still 102 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: gravitate to him. I love hearing players who haven't seen 103 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: him before, like Earl Thomas, talk about their first impressions 104 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: of him, how he's just a super super athlete. So 105 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: I think they're way more positives with Lamar than negatives. 106 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: And I think the first look was a good look. Yeah, 107 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: I think that. Here's the way I've always looked at 108 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: Lamar's passing game. What he needs to do to improve 109 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: from last year is you gotta hit the layups like 110 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: there were some layups slash. Then you steal this straight 111 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: from Cliff. This is what he always sucks about. Well, yeah, 112 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: but he didn't say it, so Cliff left it out. 113 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: You forgot your line, man, Yeah, it was right there 114 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: for you. So so you gotta hit the layups. And 115 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: I think that he is doing a better job of that. 116 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: And then the other thing is is if if he 117 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: would have, say, three to five throws a game that 118 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: were like where what was that? Like? That was ugly? 119 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: Make that now one to three. If you've cut down 120 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: from three to five and now you have one to three. 121 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: And then the other thing, and this is what we 122 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: haven't seen yet. To me, this is still kind of 123 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: one of the big questions with the passing game. What 124 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: we haven't seen yet is the big play. And the 125 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: reason we haven't seen the big play is because the 126 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: big play guy hasn't been on the field, and that's 127 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown and so that's gonna have to wait until 128 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: training camp. I also feel like it's hard to gauge 129 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: truly where this offense is at this point because they 130 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: are not during practice. The running game is not a 131 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: factor at all. Even if they are doing some running plays, 132 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: it's not real. There's no paths, there's no full contact, 133 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: and the running game is gonna be what of this 134 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: offense seventy percent of this offense. So if if seventy 135 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: percent of the offense is removed and all you're focusing 136 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: is on the then it's hard to get a real 137 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: testament to where this offense is right now. So look, 138 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: I thought that I said it when we did our 139 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,119 Speaker 1: takeaways this week. The final practice of minicamp was probably 140 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: the best day of the Lamar had of the entire 141 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: off season. He was sharp, good touch on the football, 142 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: carved up to defense in a red zone drill, during 143 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: a passing seven on seven drill. So I think there's 144 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: a lot to like, but you it's just hard to 145 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: really assess where the offense is when you don't have 146 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: the running game as part of the equation. I'll be quick, Uh. 147 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: I think Lamar has made a lot of improvements from 148 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: last year. I always go back to this. The first 149 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,679 Speaker 1: time we're going out for rookie minicamp. Last year after 150 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: he was drafted, there were some straight ducks out there. 151 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it looked like a game of duck hunt 152 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: out there, and uh, and now it does not look 153 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: like that. I think that he's made big strides in 154 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: his mechanics. He just the ball comes out of his 155 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: hand cleaner. There's still some wobble and whatnot occasionally, But 156 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: to be honest, like from O T A S even 157 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: to Mini camp, that's not a long period of time. 158 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: A month working with James Urban intently and all that. 159 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: I thought that improved. I thought the ball was just cleaner. 160 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, is the ball 161 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: getting to where it needs to be on time. That's 162 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: what's most important. That's all that matters. If it has 163 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: a little You know, Peyton Manning, he had a wabble 164 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: in his past. He did all right in his career, 165 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: uh so, and I think oftentimes it did. Like for 166 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: a long time, Lamar didn't throw a pick in o 167 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: tis that I saw. He had one really rough day 168 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: in mini camp where he threw like three in red 169 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: zone drills, then rebounded and threw five touchdowns of five 170 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: different guys in the red zone same drill a day later. 171 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: So you know, I think that Lamar has definitely made 172 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: improvement as a passer. He's ever going to be a 173 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: Drew Brees passer. He's never gonna be a paint manning 174 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: even though his ball looks like that. Sometimes that's just 175 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: not gonna be Lamar. But those guys can't run like 176 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: Lamar either. So so as long as Lamar is to me, 177 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: reaches the point where he's a solid passer, that's gonna 178 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: be good and he's gonna be a really good quarter. 179 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: He just can't be a bad passer, right And I 180 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: think what's interesting with his offense is that it it looks 181 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: to me like they want to do a ton of 182 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: quick strike stuff. You know, they want to throw the 183 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: ball to the tight ends in a hurry. Obviously the 184 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: RPO is a huge piece of this, but I just 185 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: think they're gonna be getting the ball out of their hands, 186 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: out of Lamar's hands quickly. And I think that he 187 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: is pretty good in the middle of the field, when 188 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: you're getting the ball to a tight end right over 189 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: the middle of the field. I think that is where 190 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: he has done has shine at times. Uh So they're 191 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: gonna be doing a ton of that, Yeah, yeah, no doubt. 192 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: And when he's on the move, I think he's still 193 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: but I like it when he does kind of a 194 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: pump fake and then rolls and then throws it deep 195 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: from there like he hit I forget who it was, 196 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 1: maybe Jalil Scott on one of those where he did 197 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: the old pump ake rollout, and that I think is 198 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: when he's just playing. That's when he's at his best. Yeah, 199 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: I agree, all right, So let's move on. So let's 200 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: talk about we want to identify each of us got 201 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: a chance to do this, one player on offense and 202 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: one player on defense that stood out to you. Miss 203 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 1: and Garrett, you start off. I'll start on offense. Mark Andrews. 204 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: Mark Andrews is a stud. He shined during his rookie 205 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: season and then he just took it to another level 206 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: throughout the entire offseason. Workouts he seems to have great 207 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: chemistry with Lamar. I mean, I loved what he did 208 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: during the final day of mini camp. He was talking 209 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: trash to Deshaun Elliott, Kenny Young, Matthew Jude and he 210 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: was taking off the entire defense. It looked like he 211 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: was about the fight Matthews and he takes off the 212 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: entire defense. He caught some touchdowns. This dude can go 213 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: up and make plays. He's gonna be how many guys 214 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: in the team are better than Mark Andrews like, he's 215 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: one of the I think he's gonna be one of 216 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: the best players on the team this year. Not just 217 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: not just a good tight end. I think he's gonna 218 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: be one of the best players on the team this year. 219 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: And the Ravens gotta see with him in the third round. 220 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: So I'll give a shout out to Tom Valente in 221 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: our PR department. Yeah, he already is fitting that guy 222 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: for a green jacket. Green Jackie is gonna win the Masters. 223 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: Wait gold jacket, gold jacket. Tiger was baby. He might 224 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: he might be good at golden I haven't. I haven't 225 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: seen him play for a gold jacket. He compares him 226 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: the Jason Witten like and I don't think that's a 227 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: terrible comparison. Both are good route runners. I mean that's 228 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: really Mark Andrew's strong suit. I don't think he's quite 229 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: doesn't have quite the fuel for the game obviously that 230 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: Witten did. But he's definitely faster than Witten. I think 231 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: he could become that. I really like Mark Andrews a 232 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: lot too. I think, what round are you gonna take 233 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: him fancy football this year? I might have to take 234 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: him one round before you. Yeah, I definitely think he 235 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: would be a good fantasy football take a really good 236 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: fantasy all right, to use your defensive guy, all right, 237 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: I'll be quick on this. I think Peanut Patrick Owasso uh. 238 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: And what stands out to me with Peanut is not 239 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: necessarily what I've seen on the field, because you know, 240 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: I don't think the inside linebackers making a ton of 241 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: place during offseason practices is without the paths and all 242 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: that stuff. But this dude has really grown. I think 243 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: from a personality standpoint, he's comfortable leading the defense in 244 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: the middle huddle with Moseley gone, Peanuts the guy that's 245 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: now wearing the headset and directing traffic there in the middle, 246 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: And like even this is a small thing. But like 247 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: he used to be, he used to hate doing the 248 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: media stuff. He didn't feel comfortable doing it. Now he 249 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: goes up there, he's very comfortable. He's he just feels 250 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: like a guy who has grown tremendously. He's comfortable in 251 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: his own skin. He's very comfortable in his own skin. 252 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: He's just grown tremendously. I think off the field um 253 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: as much as on the field. And and that's what 254 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: this defense needs. They need somebody, they need some new leaders. 255 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: They knew new leadership, and Peanuts seems like he's the 256 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: guy that's ready to do that. I thought it was 257 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: interesting that he also said he's still tosses C. J. 258 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: Mosley a lot, And I think that's a good move. Uh. 259 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 1: To talk to a guy who you're trying to emulate 260 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: in that role being the leader of the center of 261 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: that defense, I think is a great way for him 262 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: to learn to accelerate that process. It's not his natural 263 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: personality to be the loudest voice in the room. But 264 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: with Suns gone, with Moseley gone, with what all gone, 265 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: other guys who might not have done it before are 266 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: gonna have to. And he seems really to have taken 267 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: to that. Well, some guys have told him, like, you're 268 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: not gonna need to be more vocal. I think told 269 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: him what Earl Thomas. When Earl Thomas first arrived here, 270 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: he sat down with Peanut and said, hey, you might 271 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: need to be a little bit more vocal. And like 272 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: Peanut took that advice to heart and he's doing it. 273 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: But it seems like some guys try to be more 274 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: vocal and it seems for or it seems fake. I 275 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: don't think that's the case with Peanut. I just think 276 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: it's a it's a natural progression of a guy that 277 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: was undrafted, that was fighting to make the team, and 278 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: now he's the starting linebacker in the middle of the 279 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: defense and he's become a new leader of the group. Yeah, 280 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: totally agree. Alright, Cliff, hit us with your offensive guy 281 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: and defensive guy. Offense, I'm going with gust the bus 282 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: Ewarts bus baby one. I love the way he looks. 283 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: He's a little leaner, certainly hasn't lost his power, I 284 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: don't think, but he looks great, like he's ready to 285 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: go week one right now. Also, like like the way 286 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: he's worked on being a receiver. I'm not thinking Gus 287 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: Everard's gonna catch fifty balls next year, but he's caught 288 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: everything thrown to him during doing these workouts, and it's 289 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: obviously he's worked at it. So Gus, I think, has 290 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: taken the challenge of Okay, you guys brought in marketing goer, 291 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,680 Speaker 1: understand why you wanted a veteran back, but I still 292 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: want to be a big part of this offense. So 293 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: I think he's done a great job with that. Defensively, 294 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: my guys, Jimmy Smith. First of all, it's just great 295 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: to see Jimmy out here healthy. Uh. There was a 296 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: lot of talk he wouldn't even be with the Ravens 297 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: uh this season, So to have him out there with 298 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: the cornerback group they have, I think he's gonna have 299 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: a heck of a season. I think he's really changed 300 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: a lot. He's talked about his diet, how he's a 301 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: lot more serious about taking care of his body. Once 302 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: he came back last year from missing the first two games, 303 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: he didn't miss a game. We all know when Jimmy 304 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: Smith plays, his performance is not a problem, and I 305 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: think that he's really wants to show people that he's 306 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: still an elite corner we know that Marlon Humphrey looks 307 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: like he's on the Virgin Star him. If Jimmy Smith 308 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: is gonna be a guy on the other side with 309 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: Brandon car and then you got Tvis and they go back. 310 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: This talk about the Ravens having the best corner group 311 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: in the NFL, I think it would be true, and 312 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: Jimmy is a big part of that. And I just 313 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: think it's really good to see him looking so good, 314 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: being healthy as part of that group. Jimmy was also 315 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: coming off the achilles last year, Let's not forget about that. 316 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: So it was a shock that he was even on 317 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: the field during this time last year. If you remember 318 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: people like, wait, did you just tear your achilles? How 319 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: are you back out here five months later? It really 320 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: feels like this is the year finally, in what year nine? 321 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: I think it is for him that he could put 322 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: everything together. Can I just say that when everybody was 323 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: ready to cut Jimmy Smith this offseason, most importantly Ryan Making, 324 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: I was ready, he's gonna he's gonna make fifteen million dollars. 325 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: That's not worth it. You gotta get rid of him. Look, 326 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: I don't think that Jimmy's He's paid, like the second 327 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: best corner in the NFL is Jimmy Smith right now, 328 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: the second best corner in the NFL. So make it 329 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: once again trying to cut him. I was. I was 330 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: over there standing on the table saying, I don't like 331 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: the idea of getting rid of this guy because it's 332 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: hard to find good corners. He obviously is that, and 333 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: and you need a good compliment of guys there. Guys 334 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: get hurt, and we have seen too many times when 335 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: players get hurt in the secondary. What happens to this defense, 336 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: particularly him, Like over the past nine years since he's 337 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: been here, many times the defense has been the defense 338 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: with Jimmy Smith and the defense without it. Well, I 339 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: want him on the team. And he to me, like 340 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: you're saying, is gonna be in line for a great year. 341 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: So I'm really glad that the Ravens found a way 342 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: to keep this guy. I agree, they're their strongest obviously 343 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: when they can rotate those three guys. I mean, the 344 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: crazy part of it is you have three bona fide, 345 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: legit starters at corner. Any one of those and Tavan 346 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: is the starting slot guy. I mean Brandon Carr, Marlon 347 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: Humphrey or Jimmy would no doubt be starting for any 348 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: other team, all three of them. So it's just odd 349 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: to me that, Like when I watched practice and you're 350 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: watching minicamp and here's Marlon Humphrey running with the second 351 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: team defense, You're like, the world, what kind of universe 352 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: are we in here? Marlin Humpy was named the team 353 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: MVP last year and he's running with the second team, 354 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: So that that's the only reason, Like if it came 355 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: down to dollars and cents and you're really extight against 356 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: the right, but the Ravens didn't have to make a move, 357 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: I'm glad they didn't have to. You're obviously better with Jimmy, 358 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: so it's great. All right, Uh, minds you guys. I'm 359 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: going a little more under the radar. You know, you 360 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: guys just take the easy big name I the Intrepid 361 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: Parking really like the big the big ves franchise record 362 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: for rookie tight ends last year. This was the right 363 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: Max Williams previously had that record. That's not like to 364 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: act like this was something longstanding impressive record that Mark Andrews. 365 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: All right, s quick flapping your gumps. Here's my guys 366 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: on offense, I'm going Jalil Scott didn't even see the 367 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: field last year. He's come out a big time draft 368 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: pick who I think was more of a developmental guys 369 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: fourth rounder last year. They knew he was a late 370 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: bloomer in college. They knew it was going to a 371 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: little time. He essentially got a red shirt year, and 372 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: he's coming out and looked a lot better. I mean, 373 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: he still has a little ground to makeup, I think, 374 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: and getting end and out of his brakes. Quicker. That's 375 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: never gonna be a strong suit just because how big 376 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: he is, how tall he is. But what he's doing 377 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: is maximizing what he brings to the table, and that's 378 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: going up and plucking balls away from defensive backs, especially 379 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: in the red zone, especially in the end zone. Uh So, 380 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: a lot of strong hands catch us from him. I've 381 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: just been impressed deep when you talk about the deep game, 382 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: passing game, he's been probably the best guy in terms 383 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: of making big plays out there on the field. Uh Defensively, 384 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: another second year player who didn't see the field last year, 385 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 1: and that's Deshaan Elliott, the joke at safety. I'm telling him, 386 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: I think the Ravens were content going into this year 387 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: with Tony Jefferson and Deshaun Elliott as their number one 388 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: DeShawn Slash Chuck Clark as their safeties, and then when C. J. 389 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: Mosley fell through and signed with the Jets, then they 390 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 1: pivoted and they signed Earl Thomas, and that thus bumped 391 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: DeShawn into or of a backup role, but he was 392 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: in line. I think I think they had enough confidence 393 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: in him to make him a potential center field starter 394 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 1: on this defense, and he's shown that he would have 395 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: been capable in O T A S and minicamp had 396 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: the Ravens not signed Earl Thomas. So let me ask 397 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: the question, is there a way that we find that 398 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 1: the Ravens find a way to get Earl Thomas, Tony Jefferson, 399 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: and Seawan Elliott on the field at the same time. 400 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:26,479 Speaker 1: I mean, Athlee Levin sometimes is that guy. But like 401 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure I wouldn't rule it out, wouldn't 402 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: rule it out. And also I think that the beauty 403 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: of this is that I think the Ravens for sure 404 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: should be a defense that gets more takeaways this year. 405 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: I mean, Elliot's a ball, Hall we know Earl Thomas 406 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: is a ball. I think that more times you can 407 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: have guys like that who that's a d NA to 408 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: create turnovers, then that leads you to a defense and 409 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: can make bigger plays and as good as the Ravens 410 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: world last year being the number one ranked defense, getting 411 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: takeaways was not a strength, and I think this year 412 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: it could be because they just have guys like Elliott, 413 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: like Thomas who naturally that's what they look to do. 414 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: So I think it could be hard to get all 415 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: three of those guys with you there on the field 416 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: a lot. But I do like the fact that you know, 417 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: if somebody gets hurt, you're never gonna have a secondary 418 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: unit out there where a quarterback looks at the Ravens 419 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: defense and says, I'm going right here, like who do 420 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 1: you throw to? Who do you who's your matchup? Who 421 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: you trying to pick on? If you're a quarterback playing 422 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: the Ravens this year, I mean, there's no like weak 423 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: link if they're all healthy. That has really not always 424 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: been the case here, and I think that's gonna be 425 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: a big difference. Yeah, I mean, I think Tony Jefferson 426 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: will probably play a little closer to the line of 427 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: scrimmage this year, and I think especially in passing downs. 428 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: They could drop him closer to the box and have 429 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: him try to lock up the tight end over the 430 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: middle of the field or whatnot, and then have the 431 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: Sean back there as another center fielder with Earl Thomas. 432 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: So I think they'll find ways to get the joker 433 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: on the field. And I'm still shocked at this guy 434 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: last until day three. You look at his college stats, 435 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: he's kind of like Justin Tucker. You know, Justin Tucker 436 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: was making that joke. Oh where did you find Justin Tucker? 437 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 1: Or hitting gym? I was playing at Texas, But have 438 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: you ever heard of Texas playing for an hundred thousand 439 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:11,640 Speaker 1: fans and hit the huge dick against Texas? Exactly? Yeah. 440 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: So I mean, here's the Sean Elliott playing at Texas 441 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: making plays all over the field. The guy was a 442 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: turnover machine in college and somehow last still day three. 443 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: It's beyond me. But he looks really good. Alright. So 444 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: a lot of attention has also just been on what's 445 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: this offense gonna look like? Greg Romans in his first 446 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: year's coordinator. The Ravens obviously have a very unique offense 447 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson. Uh So, what is your impression. What 448 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: do you still expect from this offense, Cliff gun Well, 449 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, obviously running, you can't get away 450 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: from it, that they're gonna that's gonna be their bread 451 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: and butter. I think. I think what I'm most curious 452 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: about is how game plan centric is this office is 453 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: gonna be from week to week When you talk to 454 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: Greg Rome and it seems like he's thinking of a 455 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: billion possibilities for things that they could do. Uh, we 456 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 1: haven't even mentioned trades, because only who a guy who 457 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: might be like Lamar kind of was last year at 458 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: the beginning when Joe was starting. As a guy you 459 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: put in a quarterback who might run it, who might 460 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 1: throw it, you can do pretty strong, I think. So, 461 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: so are they going to be one week a team 462 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: that you know where you see Lamar only run it 463 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: two or three times and they do other things, and 464 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: then another week you know he's running it twelve times, 465 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: or Mark Ringham was getting it fifteen times one week, 466 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 1: four week next, you don't know. I think the tight 467 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: ends are gonna be a huge part of his offense though, 468 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: no matter how it shakes out. We already talked about 469 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: how good Mark Andrews has looked. You know, they also 470 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: have eight and Herds and Nick Boil and I think 471 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: Garret will probably hate this coming, but I think hayden 472 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: Hurst looked pretty good too, plucking some balls over in 473 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: the middle of the field. I was just doing fatuated 474 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: with Mark Andrews doing that. I think that with the 475 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: three time ends they have, they want to be a 476 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: team where where they line up with one, two or 477 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: three of them, you still don't know if they're gonna 478 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: run it, throw it, and exactly what they're gonna do. 479 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: So the diversity is great, but at some point you 480 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: have to establish what you really do well and not 481 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: get too caught up in the trying to trick people 482 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: or out scheme people. So I think it's really gonna 483 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: be interesting to see what they do with all these weapons. Yeah, 484 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: I really want to know what the role is going 485 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: to be for Hollywood Brown, because we haven't obviously seen 486 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: him on the field. You know, he can go deep, 487 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: but I don't think that the Ravens got him just 488 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 1: to send him on fly routes. Like that's kind of 489 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: what what you're talking about this earlier today off off 490 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: before we started the podcast, But that's basically what John 491 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: Brown was last year. He was basically the go deep guy. 492 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: I would think that Hollywood brings the ability to as 493 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: so much more underneath from a screen pass standpoint. Are 494 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: they going to use him in that shallow crossers, shallow crossers, 495 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: drag routes across the middle, Like can they get him 496 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: the ball? They want to get on the ball in 497 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: space and let him go fly. Um. I think about 498 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: what the Stelers do with Antonio Brown. They could get 499 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: seven yards and seem like any time they wanted, but 500 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: just throw it out there to Antonio Brown. He would 501 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: put a move on and get seven yards. That is 502 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: what I think. If they can do that with Hollywood, 503 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: that completely changes this offense. Yeah, I mean, I think 504 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: this offense is really going to be based off of 505 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: the run. Games sets things up for the big play, right, 506 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: I mean, you just have to be able to hit 507 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: that big play. So you have you're gonna suck up 508 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: the safeties. They're gonna do a variety of different things 509 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: to do that with short passes, screens, things like that, 510 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: and then you're gonna have to beat him over the top. 511 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: And the question is are you gonna be able to 512 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: beat him over the top? So so this offense is 513 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 1: gonna pound the rock. There's no doubt about that. I Mean, 514 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: we we haven't talked a lot about mark Ingram, but 515 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: if we're talking fantasy football, I'm taking mark Ingram before 516 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: I'm taking Mark Andrews because he's gonna be at so 517 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: anybody in my fans football leagues, let's ignore that comment. Um, 518 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: but they're gonna they're gonna pound it with he and 519 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: Gus and then I think it's it's a matter it's 520 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: still a matter of whether Lamar then can beat people 521 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: with his arm. Like I said, he has to be 522 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: a good, okay to good passer. Can he do that? 523 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: And can the wide receivers do that? That's the question. 524 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: Because they're gonna be able to hit the tight ends short, 525 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to hit you know, all the 526 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: running game. The running backs I think are going to 527 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: catch a fair amount of balls. It's can they hit 528 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: those wide receivers and make people pay when those safeties 529 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: come forward because the Chargers slowed them down when they 530 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: did that. What's the what's the average passing yards per game? 531 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 1: That is a sweet spot for Lamar to Honda. If 532 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: you if if he throws for two hundred yards a 533 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: game and then say it runs for it doesn't make 534 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 1: a mistakes, Yeah, because obviously cut down cuts down on 535 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: the fumbles. Isn't twing interceptions. She did a pretty good job. Yeah, 536 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: then they probably win because then he probably runs for 537 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: fifty yards and you probably have Ingram Gus that combined 538 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: for a hundred fifty between the two of them. Yeah, 539 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 1: so completely, Yeah, you've got to have some home runs though, 540 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: you've got We saw how John Brown really disappeared from 541 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: the offense late last season. They brought in Hollywood, like 542 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: you're saying God for big plays. I mean, whether he 543 00:25:55,119 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: produces four, eight, twelve, whatever, they need big play element 544 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: out of him and others too. I mean, because if 545 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: you just have these twelve fifteen yard drives a lot 546 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: of times they end up with field goals. A lot 547 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 1: of times you're doing fine. And one mistake big penalty fumble, 548 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: dribs killed that was kept them from me from being 549 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: an elite offense. They an elite running offense last year, 550 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: but if they have some big plays mixed in with 551 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: the running game, then they can become an elite offense. 552 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: So whether it's Hollywood, which he's the most likely candidate. 553 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: They also drafted Hill out of backfield to try and 554 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: produce some big plays they need every once in a while, 555 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: once or twice a game, boom boom, touchdown. If they 556 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: can do that, then to me, they're really hard to 557 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: deal with. If not, then you know you're gonna be 558 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: looking at these fourth quarters. You're sitting there, they're down 559 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: three and are up three. Who's gonna win? We're yeah, 560 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: I guess that's how it works. What's wrong with like 561 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: quick striking and having a four teen point league? Agree? 562 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: I agree? I agree? All right. So a lot of 563 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: tension obviously on the d and we don't want to 564 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: get into the people who we lost again because we're 565 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: gonna get another nest Mark's gonna get fired up exactly. 566 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: But the question, I think, you know, the big question 567 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 1: is will this number one defense take a step back? 568 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna take this one off the top here, 569 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: And uh, I don't think so. I really don't think so. 570 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: And here's the thing I thought winks comments on this 571 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: were interesting. You know, Tarrell Suggs because of who he is, 572 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: was a shock, right, But if you don't, if you 573 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: take yourself out of the sentimentality of the whole thing, 574 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: and you look at it from a football perspective. Darrell 575 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: Suggs is a great player. He brings a lot to 576 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: the table, but there ain't no question that he's on 577 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: about the sixteen hole. Yeah yeah, okay, and he was 578 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: not super effective down the stretch last year in the 579 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 1: second half of the season. I honestly think that from 580 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: a football perspective, the guys that you have replacing him, 581 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: and Tim Williams and Tias Bowser, who have taken a 582 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: lot of criticism for guys who haven't even really gotten 583 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: an opportunity because of who's been in front of him, 584 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: I think from a football perspective, you might be better off. 585 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: You might be wink. Martindale literally said, the biggest thing 586 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: that we lost with those guys Starrell Sucks and c 587 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: J Leaving was the communication. He did not point to 588 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 1: the sack production, the tackle production, those things. He said 589 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: communication that is an important that is that is an 590 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: important piece that that definitely is And I'm not trying 591 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: to downplay that. I think they've been good communicating from 592 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: what I hear. You know that everybody's talking. We just 593 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: got done talking about how peanuts doing more of it. 594 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: But I think from the front front seven perspective, you 595 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: might not be as bad off as people are making 596 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:51,479 Speaker 1: it seem. And you upgraded because you lost C. J. Mosley, 597 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,239 Speaker 1: and you upgraded in the back end right you got 598 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: Earl Thomas. So I think the defense from next is 599 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: no standpoint. Like you were saying, Cliff will probably make 600 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: more plays, and I think they might just be just 601 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: as strong defense. No question, they're younger and faster. I 602 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: don't think there's any question that they could be more 603 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: of a playmaking defense. But in particularly in key situations 604 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: and late in the season, will you miss the smarts 605 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: and experience that guys like wettal Mosley sucks that, even 606 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: if they're not making the play, can help others make 607 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: the play, whether they were in a big situation. Can 608 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: you ride to the occasion a way sucks good to 609 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: me for the last four or five years. He's a 610 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: guy who you may not hear from for a couple 611 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: of quarters, but it seems like a lot of times 612 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: in big situations that's where you hear from them. That too, 613 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: that's not a coincidence. Um In situations like that, you know, 614 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: the great ones figure out a way to to make 615 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: a play. And now with so many new faces. We 616 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 1: know Earl Thomas has been type of guy with Seattle, 617 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: but with so many new faces, you know, the doors 618 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: wide open for the for Tim Williams, you know Tis Bowser. 619 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: You go on and on about guys who have an 620 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: opportunity now Shane Ray to be to help Jude on 621 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 1: with the pass rush. Somebody's gotta step up and do 622 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: it though, because with the secondary as good as it is, 623 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: if there's no pass rush, that's tough. If there is one, 624 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: then yeah, it doesn't sougs Like you said, he said 625 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: he wanted to rail songs of his prime. So one 626 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: of these other guys the opportunity is there to actually 627 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: have more of an impact. But let's see if they 628 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: can do it. Well, there's and there's no denying that 629 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: the Ravens still did want to add more pass rushers 630 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: to this defense. They went after Ezekiel Ansa reportedly after 631 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: Ezekiel Ansa and Jeremy obviously not reportedly Kary McCoy. Uh 632 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: So there's no doubt that they still feel like we 633 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: could boost the pass rush. Uh All right, next question, 634 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: what's your biggest concern at this point my is the 635 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: offensive line we haven't seen again. As I've said, you 636 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: can't really get an assessment of the offensive line because 637 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: they're not hitting the not of pads. But it's the 638 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: same offensive lines last year. UM. Jermaino Lumino has been 639 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: taking the reps as as a starting left guard throughout 640 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: the offseason program. James Hurst has been a bit of 641 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: a rover. He was working at right guard before mars 642 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: Gianna came back, Um, and then when Yanda was back, 643 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: it was a Luminore getting most of the reps. Yeah. Now, 644 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: I think if the if the Ravens were to play 645 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: a game today, hers would probably be the starting left 646 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 1: guard because he played there last year, and Scourge are 647 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: starting center. But those guys got beat up a little bit, 648 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: to be honest in the playoff game against the Chargers. 649 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: I mean, the Chargers control the line of scrimmage in 650 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: that game, so they didn't really make any changes on 651 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: the offensive line. They added Ben Powers as a mid 652 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: round draft pick, but Powers is not working at this 653 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: point with the starting offensive line, so we'll see if 654 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: he ends up moving into the starting line up at 655 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: some point this year. Right now, that seems to be 656 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: a long ways off. So I'm just a little bit 657 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: concerned about where this offensive line stands. Are they going 658 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: to be able to run the ball when teams know 659 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: that Lamar is going to be the cornerback quarterback and 660 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: this is going to be a run heavy offense like that, 661 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: to me is the biggest question on offense because I think, um, 662 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: I just think that there's still questions there about whether 663 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: they can pass protect and whether they can pave the way. 664 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: This is the case of the playoff game haunting your 665 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: nightmares because the offensive line was pretty darn good the 666 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: second half of last season. No team in the NFL 667 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: even remotely came close to running the ball is effectively 668 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: Novens did. So really, when you look at thet when 669 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: you look at the whole the offensive line was darn good. Left, 670 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: But how was the offensive line of running the ball 671 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: before Lamar Jackson came in and took over his quarterback? 672 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: Not great, not goodmar Jackson's the quarterback, so that no, 673 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: I know, But but no, it isn't move because defenses 674 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: now understand what a little bit more of what this 675 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: offense is going to look like. I think there was 676 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: an element of the protest in the ground up. I 677 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: think that once there was an element of surprise that 678 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: once Lamar took over last year that defense has had 679 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: to adjust to. And I'm I'm not saying that the 680 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: Chargers cracked the code. I'm not going that far, But 681 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: I do think that teams are gonna be better prepared 682 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: for Lamar Jackson's the starting quarterback than they were when 683 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: he first took over last year, no question about it. 684 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: So you've got to be able to clear if if 685 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: this team can't run the ball because they can clear 686 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: the way up front, then it's not going to be 687 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: a good offense and it's not going to be a 688 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: good team. Very true. All right, this is a pessimistic question, 689 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: So I want to hate on you too much, Cliff. Yeah, 690 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: I already kind of mentioned the pass rush is my 691 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: biggest concern um. First of all, the passwords is so 692 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: important because if you have one, it covers up so 693 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: many deficiencies and gives all quarterbacks problems. If you don't 694 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: have a pass rush, even as good as the secondary is, 695 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: it's just hard to keep some of these top receivers 696 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: and top quarterbacks and finding a connection. So yeah, I mean, 697 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: there's plenty of candidates between Shane Ray and Janalen Ferguson. 698 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 1: We haven't mentioned them. They drafted him who they want 699 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: to step up to help Matthew Judo and with the 700 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: pass rush, But opponents may decide, look, we're not gonna 701 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: let Matthew Judon beat us, and they can do that, 702 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: I think easily more easily this year without Sugs and 703 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 1: Zarias Smith being around. If you double team Judon, who's 704 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: gonna pick up the slack? And we'll then wink after 705 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 1: call more blitzes which could leave things vulnerable elsewhere. So 706 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: the pass rush would be my biggest concern. I feel 707 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: that they can get one, but you're asking a lot 708 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 1: of guys who haven't put up numbers. We know first 709 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: thing did it in college, but a lot of guys 710 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 1: who haven't put up numbers in a couple of years, 711 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: same race since he's been heard, hasn't put up the numbers. 712 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: Who's gonna step up and fill that void? Okay? Legit 713 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: uh mine is with the passing game and and that 714 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: wide receiver. Kind of to your point, Garret, if they 715 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: can't run the ball, offense not gonna be It's not 716 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: gonna be good. If you can't throw it. It's also 717 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: gonna be tough if you if this offense is super 718 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: one dimensional, it's gonna be tough to win games. And 719 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: I mean, like I said at the top, I think 720 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: Lamar has made improvements. I think the path he is 721 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: improving as a passer. But at the end, at the 722 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: end of the day, you look at it and your 723 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: your wide receiver. Your starting wide receivers are Willie Steed, 724 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: Chris Moore, and Marcus Brown is probably your number three. 725 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: Those your top three guys, and Marcy's Brown were not 726 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: really you know, he's still got lingering health concerns coming 727 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: off the list, Frank. So if if you're not able 728 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: to scare anybody over the top, like I mentioned, uh 729 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: with your speed that you added. You know, Miles Boyken 730 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 1: is the third round pick. We'll see what we get 731 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: out of him. As Scott, he was your most impressive 732 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: player of the off season. Man, Yeah, we gotta get 733 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: in training, camping in games. He has done in games 734 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: yet he was if games, I'll stay with no harms, 735 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: no harms. But I mean, I still think that the 736 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: passing game has to prove itself. These wide receivers have 737 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: to prove themselves. Uh, and and if you can't back 738 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: up those safeties and whatnot, it could be a long, 739 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: long year. Uh, that's what they have to prove. All Right, 740 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: we're finished on this one because we're get a little 741 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: long that's not here here all right? And well, and 742 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 1: then a positive note, what are you least concerned about? Well, 743 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: I'll be quick on this because we've just spent a 744 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: good amount of time talking about it and you guys 745 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,919 Speaker 1: kind of hammered at home. I'm really not worried about 746 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: the defense, like when you see it just stood out 747 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: to me when the defense and all the starters get 748 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 1: back out there during mandatory mini camp and Judeon's there 749 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: and Tony Jefferson's there and Earl Thomas is out there, 750 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: like this is still a really really good defense. I'm 751 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 1: just not that concerned about it. Maybe they go they 752 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: were number one last year, Maybe they go if they 753 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: go from one to let's just say seven, Like that's 754 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: a you know, that's a much surprised by that big 755 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: a drop, right, that's a somewhat steep drop. You're still 756 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: a top ten defense. And I think that like if 757 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: even if you fall back that far and maybe the 758 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: turnovers increase. You're just as just as fine as you 759 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: were last year potentially, and you should have an offensive 760 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: is a ball control offense. I think this defense is 761 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 1: gonna be great. I'm not worried about it at all. Okay, yeah, 762 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about them running the football. Uh you 763 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 1: know obviously bringing in mark Ingram, I think it's huge. 764 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: We talked about Gus how he looks You've got Kenneth 765 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: Dixon's name and come up and then of course Lamar, 766 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: I mean so to me, they've got five backs, they'll 767 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: all be fresh all the time. I understand your concerned 768 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: guy about the offensive line, but with the diversity, I 769 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 1: think that Greg Roman, that's especialty. The running game, I 770 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: think they're gonna have plenty of run schemes to keep 771 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: offenses off balance. Unlike the charge of game in the playoffs, 772 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 1: I think they'll be able to hang their head on 773 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: that running game. And I'm gonna go with the easy 774 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 1: one here, and that's the secondary. I think that Ravens 775 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 1: have the best secondary in the NFL when you look 776 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 1: at just the starters, and they might have the deepest 777 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: secondary in the NFL. I mean, you can sustain injuries. 778 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,400 Speaker 1: Knock on wood, crap my arms. There we go. Uh, 779 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: you're not gonna we don't have any injuries. But even 780 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: if you do have one, I think you're in pretty 781 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: good shape. I mean a corner safety, both spots. I mean, 782 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,840 Speaker 1: this secondary should be really, really good. I like you said, Cliff, 783 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 1: I don't know who they pick on. I don't know, 784 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,439 Speaker 1: uh why. I know the Browns have some really good 785 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: wide receivers this year. It's gonna be a good battle 786 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,360 Speaker 1: out there seeing them against the Ravens. Corners and safeties. 787 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: You're gonna have it. You know. We're gonna probably do 788 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,359 Speaker 1: a fifty three man roster prediction before we get into 789 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: training campus the early roster prediction in a future podcast. 790 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: Little teas there, but you're gonna have some really interesting 791 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: position battles at court in the second area, because you're 792 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: gonna have like a guy like Marias Cannedy, he's played 793 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: a lot of football here over the past few years. 794 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: Is he on the team? Is he not justin Bethel 795 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: a guy that you signed. You would think that he's 796 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 1: on the team from a special team standpoint, But that's 797 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: a crowded group. Like so we'll get to that it's 798 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 1: a little tease. Yeah. Well that's it for us today. 799 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, and uh, the rookies are still in town, 800 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: so we're gonna try to track down one of them 801 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: for next week's episode. No promises, but we'll try. But 802 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 1: as always, you can reach us at the lounge at 803 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 1: Ravens dot NFL dot net. Thank you very much to 804 00:38:53,520 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: Clifton today. We'll be back with you next week. Steps 805 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: be incidents, the bass pass past incidents. The expence adds 806 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,839 Speaker 1: Bax Bax baxpa