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Speaker 2: Oh it is a championship Sunday beyond jacked up. Yes,

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Speaker 2: it's way early on the West Coast. My throat feels

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Speaker 2: like someone is running me through gravel right now. But

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Speaker 2: me that's the way you want to wake up on

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Speaker 2: a Sunday morning. So for two hours, just sit back

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Speaker 2: and luxuriate in the way that I speak and articulate.

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Speaker 2: We've got a special guest star that's gonna join us

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Speaker 2: on the show momentarily. But I can't do it alone.

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Speaker 2: I'm Mike Carmen alongside me, a legend in broadcasting, a

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Speaker 2: man who's cv runs a long way, a man with opinions,

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Speaker 2: a man who's run many a promotion. You want him

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Speaker 2: on your side, it's Andy Furman.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Over there, we got Bucky Brooks. He wins bottom barrel

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Speaker 2: betting with some regularity. I mean, I gotta say what

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Speaker 2: I hear. He writes for Fox Sports dot Com NFL

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Speaker 2: dot Com. You see his face. He's a coach, a mentor, prognosticator,

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Speaker 2: does a podcast. His partner just released a mock draft.

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Speaker 2: So I was like a little kid and I got

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Speaker 2: that squeal going. But we've got to start with a

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Speaker 2: special guests because you know, as I'm flying up the

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Speaker 2: four h five freeway, I heard you guys. You know

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Speaker 2: it's football and you're fired up trying to find the

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Speaker 2: diamond in the rough, which we'll do again here a

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Speaker 2: little bit new audience, new participant in me for these

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Speaker 2: championship games. But I heard a little bit of Baseball

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame chatter and standing for one Carlos Beltran. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so America, welcome our special guest star. That people is

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Speaker 2: a trash can. It kept him from getting a job

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Speaker 2: with the Mets. He was the only guy named and

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Speaker 2: called out for the cheating scandal that played baseball. Oh wait,

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Speaker 2: it didn't because Rob Manford said, there's a giant rug

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Speaker 2: over there, sweep it under there. Nobody goes in that

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Speaker 2: quarter of the office. So to be consistent, Carlos Beltran

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Speaker 2: guys labeled as cheater, as there's far more evidence, hard

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Speaker 2: evidence that he cheated the game of baseball than a

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Speaker 2: lot of guys that had been left out.

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Speaker 1: Well that's the reason why he's not in the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Well, but he's got seventy percent of the vote. He

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Speaker 2: shouldn't be anywhere near that.

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Speaker 3: Because the Johnny cum lately voters don't remember that that

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Speaker 3: was twenty seventeen to twenty ninety. Well, the old guys

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Speaker 2: Rob Parker's still putting in his vote. I told him,

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Speaker 2: let next year. He's screwed because he only voted for

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Speaker 2: CC in ECHI row next year. There's not a single

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Speaker 2: guy that should be a first time time Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 2: So if suddenly he votes Beltran and he gets over,

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Speaker 2: I will never let him hear the end of it.

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Speaker 2: In these hallways, I'll be wearing a Beltron mask every day, jeez,

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Speaker 2: as well as I'll be sending Beltron masks to all

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Speaker 2: the other voters.

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Speaker 4: The gas mask.

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Speaker 2: That's it. Got to give him the gas face. Go

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Speaker 2: back to third base back in the day. You like that.

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Speaker 2: There's a random reference from rap Royalty back in the day.

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Speaker 2: But fellas, it's so good to be with you here.

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Speaker 2: We've already got some Women's English Premier League up on

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Speaker 2: the TV. We've got all sorts of highlights and breakdowns

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Speaker 2: of Bills and Chiefs, and we're so lucky to get

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Speaker 2: another one of these. And it started well, and I

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Speaker 2: don't know how many people watched, right, ratings are down

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Speaker 2: and miserable. I split screen it with Saturday Night's main event,

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Speaker 2: because well, I'm a wrestling nerd. But we got the

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Speaker 2: twenty fifth regular season game between Lebron and Steph Curry yesterday,

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Speaker 2: and we're getting towards the end of him right right now,

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Speaker 2: Lebron after yesterday's win, ten point win, he's up thirteen

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Speaker 2: the finals again?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 2: I mean Steph Curry with four and a half minutes

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Speaker 2: that's one of those. I'll remember where I was. I

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Speaker 2: because then Steph Curry went oh for eight in the

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Speaker 2: get many of these anymore so as much as there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of hate watching that may go on today.

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Speaker 2: You know, we got bad Blood, which was a great

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Speaker 2: including Bill's quarterback Josh Allen's fiance Hailey Steinfeld. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're getting it on later on today. See, I got backstories.

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Speaker 2: I wove it, I wove rich tapestry this morning on one, I.

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Speaker 1: Got a backstory for you, all right? Can I go back?

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Speaker 3: Because I'm not a tremendous fan of Carlos Beltrent, but

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Speaker 3: I think if you guys got the numbers, I think

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Speaker 3: you should be in there for those aren't familiar with that.

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Speaker 3: Only five players in history of four hundred home runs

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Speaker 2: Hey, hey, hey, I did not take.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, However, here's the addendum to this story.

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Speaker 3: Gaylord Perry threw spitballs after the pitch was outlud. Why

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Speaker 3: do Ford scuff baseballs with his wedding ring to gain

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Speaker 1: Haink Greenberg, my guy.

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Speaker 3: Haink Greenberg even admitted by participating in a sophisticated sign

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Speaker 3: stealing operation that helped the Tigers win the pennant back

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Speaker 3: in nineteen forty.

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Speaker 2: Take them all out. Andy, I'm just saying, ay more

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Speaker 2: more sophisticated, and we take it maybe more seriously, and

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Speaker 2: we go back to the origins right where you had

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Speaker 2: a dozen people not vote for Babe Ruth because they

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Speaker 2: and all of those things.

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Speaker 3: I mean, but it doesn't bode well for Pete rose Was.

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Speaker 3: I think Pete should get into the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: But if Belcha's not getting in because did a garbage

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Speaker 2: Now sign the piece of paper that, unfortunately is wasn't

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Speaker 1: But let me leave you with this. You know, we

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Speaker 3: We just brought it up because I thought it was

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Speaker 2: Really we did probably two hours on it that day.

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Speaker 3: Well, Well, I thought I told this that the buck.

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Speaker 3: I said, I think Major League Baseball should announce the

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Speaker 3: new inductees of the Hall of Fame at this ceremony

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Speaker 3: in July because to have the announcement come out in

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Speaker 2: Oh, but you're trying to find something on the calendar, right,

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Speaker 2: You're trying to pop your head up, and unfortunately every

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Speaker 2: The euro thing got a lot of run because you

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Speaker 2: had the you know, the witch hent to find out

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Speaker 2: who that one guy was, right, and everybody that wanted

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Speaker 2: is he shoulding to get in? Should he not? Right?

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Speaker 2: He gets in on the tenth tenth ballot? And you know,

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Speaker 2: that's a whole other kettle of fish for another time.

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Speaker 2: We'll do that over drinks cigars in chaos at a

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Speaker 2: of it. But it's just the idea of, yeah, you're

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Speaker 2: trying to find a way, right. That was the college

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Speaker 2: football playoffs Bucky Man Monday night, January twentieth, Martin Luther

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Speaker 2: King Junior Day, full day of NBA action to commemorate it,

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Speaker 2: Inauguration Day, and there's the college football playoffs that end

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Speaker 2: basically like an NHL or NBA playoffs three months later.

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Speaker 1: I know, I mean, so which is the bigger events?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean depends on how invested you are. Right.

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Speaker 2: For some folks, they've they've run and hid from politics

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Speaker 2: wants to hear what folks have to say coming out

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Speaker 2: and surprise to it. All right, because now we're talking

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Speaker 2: about you know, the landslide, obligatory Fleetwood Mac reference, I'll

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Speaker 2: So all of that to say, we are we have

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Speaker 2: made it tochampionship Sunday. And I'm very invested in this

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Speaker 2: told fellas, that's where we have to go. But as

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Speaker 2: we get to this game, right, the appreciation slash hate

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Speaker 2: because we certainly do it with Hollywood. Oh here's this

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Speaker 2: But it happens in all of the things that we

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Speaker 2: watch voyeuristically that at some point you become that villain,

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes playing games Look, it's great gamesmanship. I thought

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Speaker 2: we liked the villains. I thought we were all anti

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Speaker 2: hero I just celebrated seventeen years of breaking bad guys,

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Speaker 4: Still are?

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Speaker 2: We move it on, Andy, I like a good villain.

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Speaker 3: Part of the problem is not the villain as much

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Speaker 3: as just we're tired of seeing the same faces. And

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you something, I think a lot of the

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Speaker 3: problem is also they're tired of seeing Taylor Swift every

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Speaker 3: They could take a shot up to the private box

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Speaker 1: It doesn't bother me, I promise you.

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Speaker 3: But there are people that's, oh Taylor Swift again, you know,

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Speaker 3: the football junkies.

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Speaker 1: They didn't want to see that. That's the deal.

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Speaker 2: Can I walk door to door and give him all hugs, Bucky?

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Speaker 2: Because she accounts for about thirty seconds of a three

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Speaker 5: I mean it, it's so rediculo all the it, right,

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Speaker 5: about in the country, right, we say we appreciate greatness

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Speaker 5: and excellence in those things, but as soon as we

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Speaker 5: encounter that, we hate on it. We hate Tom Brady,

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Speaker 5: we hate the Patriots when they were good.

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Speaker 4: We now hate the kan City Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 4: and everyone arounds him, annoys.

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Speaker 5: Us, Travis Kelce and his girlfriend, Like we don't like

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Speaker 5: the Swifties.

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Speaker 4: And all of that.

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Speaker 5: And we claim that we love an underdog, but guess

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Speaker 5: what underdog stories don't do well for us because we

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Speaker 5: say we like it and then we see him on

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Speaker 5: the big stage and then it's never what we want

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Speaker 4: It just doesn't happen.

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Speaker 5: And so to me, I respect that the Kancity Chiefs

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Speaker 3: Well, you appreciate the winning buck we do, but you

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Speaker 2: Football guys, got the man.

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Speaker 4: What we're saying, Listen to what we're saying. In a way,

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Speaker 1: That's how you have to set up.

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Speaker 4: No, but we're not talking about what the league wants.

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Speaker 5: The people on that, which is crazy, like, no, we

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Speaker 2: I get tweets regularly whenever we get down the Chiefs

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Speaker 2: I heard you, Bucky. You brought up the turnover differential.

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Speaker 1: It's done, and you have to say that the Bills

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Speaker 3: You picked Buffalo, right, Yeah, I did before the year,

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Speaker 5: You know, it's funny because in a way, these teams

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Speaker 4: We don't want to acknowledge it, but the Kansaity Chiefs

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Speaker 4: Fighter that they gonna win on points. They're gonna win

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Speaker 5: They really don't have knockout power, so they just wait

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that the general public would like to

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Speaker 2: Well, that narrative certainly took off. And look it goes

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Speaker 5: See, everyone thinks that the fix is in, like the

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Speaker 4: It's not.

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Speaker 5: It's everyone is emotional. Everyone's in their feelings because they

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Speaker 5: equate being a Carolina fan, Carolina basketball fan, the Chiefs

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Speaker 3: How foolish does it even think the referees would be

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Speaker 1: Right now. It's out of control.

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Speaker 2: Well, but that's just it, right. You get a bunch

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Speaker 3: He was playing Brigham Young in basketball, okay, and they

436
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Speaker 3: lost by thirty. Guy and Brigham Young at the b

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Speaker 3: puts up a three pointer. All right, he made it.

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Speaker 3: The coach apologized to the Cincinnati coach why he did it.

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Speaker 3: The good news is for the fans, they got, like

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Johns free his sandwiches after the game because they

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Speaker 3: got a certain amount of points. Maybe that's why he's

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Speaker 3: in it. I don't know why he did it, but

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Speaker 3: maybe there was a point spurre on the guy. I

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Speaker 3: don't look, I didn't see the spread between Brigham Young

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Speaker 3: and you.

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Speaker 2: See last night now, But now you got me interested.

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Speaker 3: Okay, But why would a guy take a three at

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Speaker 3: the buzzer and he made it?

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Speaker 2: Was he a guy that normally doesn't play then he

450
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Speaker 2: wants to show up in a box?

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Speaker 1: Could be right.

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Speaker 2: It's like running your fifth, fifth string running back. You

453
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Speaker 2: can walk off the field. You don't walk off the

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Speaker 2: field before the buzzer sounds. I'm scoring on your ass.

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Speaker 3: All that happened years ago when when Cincinnati I went

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Speaker 3: to the game with May he rest in peace. Joe

457
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Speaker 3: Paterna when Penn State played Cincinnatian football way back when

458
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Speaker 3: and they beat him sixty two nothing, and there was

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Speaker 3: like a lot of complaints that why did you run

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Speaker 3: up the score? And Joe p said, look, I didn't

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Speaker 3: run up the score. I had my third third stringers

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Speaker 3: in there, and they want to show me what they

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Speaker 3: could do because they have a play wow rings in

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Speaker 3: there in the second quarter.

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Speaker 2: Right nowadays, I mean, there's a lot of money on

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Speaker 2: the line, right, you get to be seen. Maybe you

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Speaker 2: can enter the n I L sweepstake something. We're talking

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Speaker 2: about a lot Ohio State. How many guys might suddenly

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Speaker 2: jump in the portal because there's a giant check waiting

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Speaker 2: for him. Jeremiah Smith, Right, I mean Ryan Day and

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Speaker 2: is painted beard already complaining, Hey, they're coming from my guys.

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Speaker 2: What do you do? Of course they're coming for your guys.

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Speaker 5: We don't we don't think. We don't think the beard

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Speaker 5: is is natural.

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Speaker 4: We don't think that.

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Speaker 2: I think it's the old commercial with Walt Frasier and

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Speaker 2: Keith Nanz looks, so we think it was it was

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Speaker 2: that Greece.

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Speaker 4: Is that what it was? What was that that old commercial.

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Speaker 4: Is that what it is?

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Speaker 1: They still do it? Still see doing that?

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm sure he does.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, let's see what a commercial?

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Speaker 2: What's that commercial? Just for men?

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Speaker 1: Just for men?

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Speaker 2: I mean, Brian her Lockham. You go to Chicago, There's

487
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Speaker 2: there's billboards everywhere with his new had a hair guy

488
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Speaker 2: played bald for years and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: there he is with a muppet on his head. What

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Speaker 2: a good for him?

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Speaker 1: Keep warm?

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Speaker 2: Well, you look at Chicago you want to? I mean,

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Speaker 2: it got down really cold the last few days. As

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Speaker 2: wild woolye week in the coaching carousel. Some of the

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Speaker 2: hires seem like they were done three months ago. That

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Speaker 2: national title game between Ohio State and Notre Dame seems

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Speaker 2: like it was done a month ago. There's just been

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Speaker 2: so much information and weaving all the way through, whether

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Speaker 2: it's the Hall of Fame, whether it's you know, the

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Speaker 2: nil talk, and then obviously leading up to these champmionship games,

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Speaker 2: but the coaching carousel ran am uck, and on Friday

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Speaker 2: we got what you would call in the business a

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Speaker 2: news dump. Yes it was expected, but there's one Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame receiver that certainly was not happy about it.

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Speaker 6: Two NFC East teams in NFC Championship Game being played tomorrow,

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Speaker 6: our eyes on the Philadelphia Eagles and the Washington Commanders,

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Speaker 6: our enemies on all fronts, and a hole in a

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Speaker 6: position that we haven't held in thirty years.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the longest drought by any NFC East team, any

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Speaker 7: NFC team period, thirty years.

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Speaker 8: We're losing ground on this NFC right Well, don't we

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Speaker 8: know who's going to be in the NFC Championship game.

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Speaker 8: We haven't been there in thirty years.

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Speaker 4: Let me just break down what.

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Speaker 8: That means to be, because when people said he said,

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Speaker 8: O hum ohum o hum, but no ohumd that that's

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Speaker 8: thirty damn years.

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Speaker 4: Forty years is a generation.

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Speaker 1: We got thirty years right here right now. It was

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Speaker 1: critical mass.

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Speaker 6: It was time to bring somebody in that to shape

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Speaker 6: things up and.

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Speaker 8: Grab this last leg off Cowboy's nature.

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Speaker 2: Now the question becomes who would be that coach? Obviously

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Speaker 2: Brian Schottenheimer gets the job. They fixed the glitch, whatever

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Speaker 2: you believe about the end days of Mike McCarthy. They

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Speaker 2: played hard, down the stretch, won some games, did some things.

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Speaker 2: You got continuity. He was an analyst before he became

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Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator. So some of that makes sense for Shottenheimer,

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Speaker 2: But we get these old narratives for Jerry Jones that

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Speaker 2: pop up once again. Fellas. I was curious for our

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Speaker 2: nationwide audience that may have missed your conversations on this

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Speaker 2: a little bit earlier. Andy, what do you think should

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Speaker 2: they have made a bigger splash or should Jerry Jones

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Speaker 2: have hired Michael That was his voice.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't think you can make a bigger slash.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what Marty Miles, Marty Shott, what Brian

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Speaker 3: Schott namerged one in the NFL to create a bigger splash.

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Speaker 3: What has he done. I don't think it's a major

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Speaker 3: difference or anything. I don't think you're bettering yourself without

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Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy. I like Mike McCarthy. He's got a better

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Speaker 3: track record. I think he'd get the job done. He

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Speaker 3: had injuries, he had Dak Prescott on the shelf. I

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Speaker 3: think it was a foolish move and I don't know

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Speaker 3: why it was done. I know he was internal because

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Speaker 3: he was on the offensive side of the football. But still,

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Speaker 3: in all I don't see any change. I don't think

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Speaker 3: he's going to elevate that team to another level.

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Speaker 1: I just don't. He's not a Kyle Shanahan offensive guy.

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't know about all of that in terms

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Speaker 5: of like the play calling those things, because being a

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Speaker 5: head coach has a little to do it being a

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Speaker 5: play caller.

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Speaker 4: But I will say he said it to any of his.

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Speaker 5: Dad, who was one of only eight coaches with two

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Speaker 5: hundred wins, if he learned anything from Marty Schottenheimer in

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Speaker 5: terms of playing Marty ball, which is we've talked about

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Speaker 5: the two teams that are remaining in the AFC, how

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Speaker 5: they take care of the ball, they don't turn it over,

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Speaker 5: they are opportunistic on the defensive side of the ball,

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Speaker 5: and it's led to wins. If he does the same

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Speaker 5: thing in Dallas, he's going to win. Really, it's not

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Speaker 5: about making these sizzle plays.

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Speaker 4: In those things.

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Speaker 5: It's doing the ordinary things exceptionally well and it's making

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Speaker 5: the fewest mistakes to win games. That's what his dad preached,

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Speaker 5: and I'm sure Brian understands that. And just because then,

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Speaker 5: I'll use Mike Rabel as an example. Mike Rabel was

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Speaker 5: a middle of the road defensive coordinator for Houston Texans

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Speaker 5: when he got the job the head job for the

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Speaker 5: Tennessee Titans, and at the time it was kind of crazy, like, man,

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Speaker 5: he wasn't even great as a coordinator, but he ended

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Speaker 5: up becoming a really good head coach. I think Brian

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Speaker 5: Schottenheimer has the potential to be able to do that.

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Speaker 4: He understands what it's supposed to look like.

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Speaker 5: He's been around great coaches throughout his time as a

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Speaker 5: NFL assistant. He has plenty of experience twenty four years

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Speaker 5: on the sideline at the NFL level, fourteen of those coordinator,

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Speaker 5: I think he understands how to get it, and more importantly,

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Speaker 5: his relationship with the higher ups, their collaboration, their chemistry,

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Speaker 5: their ability to work together, gives him an opportunity to

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Speaker 5: be successful. So I wouldn't dismiss the idea of him

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Speaker 5: being successful, even though it's not the sexy pick that

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Speaker 5: bren Downson was with the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 1: I hear what you say, but is it a better

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Speaker 1: move than getting rid of Mike McCarthy. Would it be

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Speaker 1: better off keeping McCarthy.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's fine, but like, let's be real, and

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Speaker 5: I love Mike McCarthy. I think you did a really

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Speaker 5: good job winning twelve games three straight years, but people

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Speaker 5: are judged on your playoff success, right, So there's all

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Speaker 5: this future all that goes to Mike Tomlin in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 5: not because he hasn't had a losing season, but because

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Speaker 5: they haven't won a playoff game.

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Speaker 2: It's happened with the Caliboy now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and so for the Cowboys, they haven't won playoff games.

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Speaker 5: And so if you're Brian Schottenheimer and if you're able

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Speaker 5: to just win a playoff game in advance to the

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Speaker 5: next round, you're better than your predecessor. Can he do that?

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Speaker 5: Dak Prescott to come there. They have a good relationship.

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Speaker 5: He was in Seattle with Russell Wilson and Pete Carroll.

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Speaker 4: He saw how it's done there.

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't dismiss it. And just because you don't win

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Speaker 5: the sizzle of the press conference doesn't mean that you

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Speaker 5: won't be a good coach. Look at Dan Cambell and

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Speaker 5: how we laughed and stick it when he talked about

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Speaker 5: kneecaps and ankles and biting and all that other crazy stuff.

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Speaker 4: He spewed out his first.

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Speaker 2: Press Well, look at one of the guys up there today,

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Speaker 2: Coach Bucky, I mean Dan Quinn. The last time before

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Speaker 2: he became a head coach for Washington, he got run

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Speaker 2: off the field by the Green Bay Packers that gave

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Speaker 2: up a one fifty eight point three rating. And now

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Speaker 2: he's a head coach. They've gotten a culture together. How

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Speaker 2: about you guys enjoying the stories about Dan Snyder being

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Speaker 2: you know, really kicked off.

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Speaker 1: I love it, Oh, I love it.

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Speaker 2: And there's a couple of guys. Former executive Jason Wright

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Speaker 2: go Katz. He was at a bar last week. He

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Speaker 2: immediately posted avocate we were building and to see this

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Speaker 2: like tears in his eyes, like there's just that pride.

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Speaker 2: I was hearing from my friends who had been Washington

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Speaker 2: fans for as long as I've known him and been

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Speaker 2: in this business, you know, showing me pictures of them

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Speaker 2: when they were six years old, wearing their old monk

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00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 2: jerseys and all of those things.

654
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Speaker 3: But who doesn't want to Who doesn't want an operation

655
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 3: to fail? Once you get fired, it's normal. Look, I'm

656
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 3: not a fan of Dance Snightder. I didn't like the

657
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 3: fact that he was hesitant about changing the name of

658
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 3: the Redskins. I think it was the wrong thing to do.

659
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 3: They eventually did it. But the point is that he

660
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 3: was honest in the sense that, hey, look you got

661
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 3: rid of me. That the heck would I to see

662
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,959
Speaker 3: the team go down the tubes? That's the way it is.

663
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 3: And I mentioned this to Bucky Doug Peterson was fired

664
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Speaker 3: as Koja Jacksonville. You don't think he wants to see

665
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 3: that team lose? Now, of course he does. He don't

666
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 3: never say it. That's why credit Dance Snyder. He went

667
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 3: public and said it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I appreciate it. I appreciate him saying it.

669
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 5: Like we all are kind of bitter, Like you never

670
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 5: want to feel like you were a disposable part.

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Speaker 4: Of the operation.

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Speaker 5: We all like to have enough self esteem to think

673
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 5: that we're very valuable commodities and Dan Snyder is sitting

674
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 5: here looking like, Man, I cannot believe after all these years,

675
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 5: they decide now that they're going to be a winning team.

676
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 4: Right and after.

677
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 5: Penny pinching and doing all the other stuff that he did,

678
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 5: and they're notorious for being huge penny pinchers, the Commanders

679
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 5: are good.

680
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 4: And it's sad.

681
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 5: One of the researchers that I work with at NFL Network,

682
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 5: I guess he was born in ninety three. He said,

683
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 5: I've never seen my team be a good team. This

684
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 5: is the first time in my lifetime. And I'm looking

685
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 5: at him, like, what are you talking about? Like the

686
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 5: Redskins used to dominate, but I forgot they haven't been

687
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 5: a dominant team since the nineties. The Cowboys there, yeah, yeah,

688
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 5: so it's more of a Folsey the only And I'm

689
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 5: gonna say this, and I know, like when we talk

690
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 5: about the previous logo and nickname of the Commanders is

691
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 5: politically incorrect, but to me, there is something about them

692
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 5: being good and watching I would say the Cousin uniforms, right,

693
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 5: because they're trying to wear the gold pant, the gold pant,

694
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 5: the yellow pants and all that. But I'm just like,

695
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 5: there's a part of me just like, can we just

696
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 5: go back? Like, can we just go back to the

697
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 5: old UNI. We can change the logo so the headdress

698
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 5: and stuff is not there, but instead of dancing with it,

699
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 5: can we just go all the way back to what

700
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 5: it used to look like? Because to me, that's that's

701
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 5: the part of Washington that I miss. I missed him

702
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 5: singing the chance httr, I miss all of it.

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Speaker 2: Good John.

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Speaker 5: I know we can't wax weet it or whatever, and

705
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 5: I know that we've evolved in those things, but there's

706
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 5: a part of me that wishes they connect with the

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00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 5: old fan base because those things, to me, are so

708
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 5: nostalgic and traditionish.

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00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me go back to the country situation today,

710
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 3: because you talk about like a bucket board of the

711
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 3: fact that Mike Tomin's getting some heat right now on

712
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 3: a playoff game. You know that's great when the fan

713
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 3: base is so demanding. I live in the Cincinnati area.

714
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 3: They haven't made the playoffs in two years, and it's

715
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 3: ho hum. No one cares. No one cares, the fans care.

716
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 3: All right, what did the ownership do? They fired Louis Anarumo,

717
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 3: the defensive coordinator, and the press cover.

718
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Travis Kelcey on his podcast had a lot of

719
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 2: big four letter words and Jeron's that he wanted to

720
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 2: get on that because that's kind of where I want

721
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: to go as we go. Did we find a savior

722
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,959
Speaker 2: for a team? My team in this? And I also

723
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 2: want to since you brought up the Bengals, Andy, I

724
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: want to talk about the worst term in sports hashtag

725
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 2: bad words at Swollen Dome, at Andy Furman FSR, at

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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks. We'll tell you what that's all about next

727
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio. Hey, welcome back in Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Fox Football Sunday, Andy Furman, Bucky Brooks and

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00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: me Mike Carmon. As we continue, guys, very excited right

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00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 2: in Chicago. And they might as well have a ticker

731
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 2: tape parade for Ben Johnson. Already ain't all the right

732
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: things in the media. You got Caleb Williams dressing like

733
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 2: he's an neo in the matrix, all of these things.

734
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 2: It's now too big to fail in Chicago. They tell me, Andy,

735
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: tell me why this is the change.

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Speaker 3: I think they think he's an offensive genius and they

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00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 3: got the quarterback of the future.

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Speaker 1: So let's see what happens over there.

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00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 3: But look, I think it's great when they have a

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00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 3: coach or they make a hire that gets the community

741
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Speaker 3: and the fan base excited.

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00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: That's important. It really is.

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00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 3: To some extent that may be more important than actually

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00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 3: winning when the season starts, because you want people with

745
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 3: to buy tickets and get all excited, to get hyped up.

746
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 3: The media gets hyped up. So I think that's the

747
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 3: name of the game right there. That's what they did.

748
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they certainly went out to win. The

749
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 5: presser right, sure, this is a date and those things

750
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 5: and all of that stuff.

751
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 4: And he came in and look, he was a.

752
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 5: Rousing success, right, energized the building immediately.

753
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 4: He talked about coach and what we got to do

754
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 4: to serve the players.

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00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 5: Even took a jab at the Green Bay Packers, which

756
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 5: I would say is not a wise one, because now

757
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 5: you've given them fodder, so there'd be a lot of energy.

758
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 5: And we'll hear the press or the introductory press conference

759
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 5: quotes again when they play the Packers. But look, on

760
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 5: the surface, it looks great. But I'll say this and

761
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 5: I'll say this about it every time. We never know

762
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 5: how good a head coach is. Going to be until

763
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 5: he is a head coach. Yeah, there's no indicator, So

764
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 5: we'll see how he handles it. And with the quarterback,

765
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 5: I'll say the same thing Caleb Williams and those things.

766
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 5: But what I can tell you about Ben Johnson, Ben

767
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 5: Johnson coach is hard and so the feel good unless

768
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 5: coach kayleb Williams with a feather, that's not what he's getting.

769
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 5: He's getting a hard nosed coach when it comes to

770
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 5: the quarterback, and we will see how he responds to that.

771
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 5: We'll see in significant if he can get the best

772
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Speaker 5: performance out of the number one overall pick.

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Speaker 2: Still, some all those comparisons to Jaden Daniels pushed aside

774
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 2: because they got their guy all right now, Bears fans

775
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: and pundits, you can't complain. This is the guy you

776
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 2: stumped for and you used every metric to do. They

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00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 2: make the big splash that in thirteen million.

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Speaker 4: Don't you don't sound really excited about it?

779
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: Well, it's infrastructure time, right, It's like and I like

780
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 2: the way he talked about it. But you know, as

781
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 2: my buddy Todd Furman, who the Bet the Board podcast,

782
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 2: joins Jason and I every every week, and he's on

783
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 2: with Arnie and playing on Sunday nights wrapping stuff up.

784
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 2: He goes he doesn't get to bring on on Ross

785
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: Saint Brown. He doesn't have a quarterback who's really good

786
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 2: at the timing stuff right now like Jared Goff became,

787
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 2: and that offensive line doesn't come. So that's that's kind

788
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 2: of where I'm at. A lot lot of build you,

789
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 2: and I'll continue chopping this up because you've got to

790
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 2: make me feel better. That needs a Cubs fan. But

791
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: we'll move on from that. And yes we are hearing

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00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 2: the tire rag dot com studios. I mentioned the term

793
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 2: I hate more than anything else in our sporting universe

794
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 2: is quote unquote house money. There is no such thing.

795
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 2: And Andy Brown up the Cincinnati Bengals as the greatest example.

796
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 2: And I've told this story on Fox Sports Radio and

797
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: in parties and dinners a million times. I remember everybody

798
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 2: leaving that Super Bowl against the Rams. It's the era

799
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 2: of good times. We're gonna keep running back there every year.

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Speaker 2: House money. No no, no, no, no, you got them

801
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 2: fabulous run.

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00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:19,479
Speaker 4: Now.

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00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 2: Ask Dan Marino about house money. Oh, he was only

804
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 2: in a second year. Ask Jim Kelly about house money.

805
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 2: If we want to go to the Bills or Thurman, Thomas,

806
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: Andre Reid and all those other guys, even Aaron Rodgers. Right,

807
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: you got one, yeah, right, Mike Tomlin, Mike McCarthy, John Harbaugh,

808
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 2: all these guys, you got one. And that's a long

809
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 2: time ago. So the term house money to me is

810
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: just foolhardy trying to convince yourself that everything going forward

811
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 2: you will have no obstacles and you're following down the

812
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 2: yellow brick road to Oz where the wizard will actually

813
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 2: be your friend.

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00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 3: There's another turn that goes hand in hand with house money.

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00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 3: It's culture. And I can't stay in the big list bucket,

816
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 3: you know as well as I do. You know they

817
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 3: say culture can change the cold. No, get the personnel.

818
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 3: I don't care if they don't talk to one another.

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00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 3: You've got great players.

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00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: That's a hot take. In the final minutes, we need

821
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 2: we want to stay on for another fifteen minutes.

822
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 3: We are family in Pittsburgh. Remember that, you know. I

823
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 3: don't think cold is that big of a deal.

824
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: Start at the field.

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00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 3: They got the job, do your job, Go out there

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Speaker 3: and go your own way.

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00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 1: I don't care.

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00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 2: Wow, that's spicy. Wow. I should have let the show.

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00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 1: Than trash with you guys.

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00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: Wow, you're the best. Hey, Andy, who'd you pick for today?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 1: It's easy, got the Eagles and the Chiefs.

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00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: There you go, rematch and Bucky. We'll talk about it

834
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: a little more next hour. But for those who may

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00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 2: have a change of programming or need to go walk

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00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: the dog. What do you got?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

838
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 5: I mean, look, it's gonna be Eagles and Chiefs.

839
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 2: I got the Eagles and the Bills. That's Andy Furman

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00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 2: and Andy Firman FSR bug in Bucky and I continue

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00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 2: next on. Get those fours up, four teams remaining three

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00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: games so we crown a champion, and then we'll begin

843
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,239
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Speaker 2: Fox Football Sunday, Mike Harmon alongside Bucky Brooks with you

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Speaker 2: you read him NFL dot com, Foxsports dot Com you

851
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 2: see him his face. Ah, yes, you read him, you

852
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 2: hear him on his podcast, all of these things, all

853
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 2: the goodness, he's a coach. We were talking at the

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00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: end of last hour, Bucky. You disagreed very strongly with

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00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: our guy Andy Furman because he'd threw up culture as

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00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: a four letter word and dropped his microphone and right

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Speaker 2: out out the door like night.

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00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 5: I think you and everyone else who have been around

860
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 5: teams that have not been good would like dispute that

861
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 5: at the end of the season. I found it interesting

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00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 5: because in a player's league where everyone thinks that the

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00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 5: players coach is the one that gets along with the

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00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 5: players as opposed to the one that holds them accountable.

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Speaker 5: At the end of the year, I heard Cole Comet

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00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 5: and I heard several Bears players talk about we got

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Speaker 5: to fix the culture in the locker room. We got

868
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,959
Speaker 5: to hold people accountable. We can't have people come in late.

869
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 5: We can't have people not practicing to the level that

870
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 5: they need to practice so we can play at a

871
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 5: higher level.

872
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 4: That's environment.

873
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 5: And so when people talk about culture, it's a group

874
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 5: of people who have shared values.

875
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 4: When it comes to their belief system.

876
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 5: And if you don't have that, then how can you

877
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 5: ever achieve what you need to achieve because you have

878
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 5: to have guys who hold people accountable to a certain

879
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 5: standard that has been set. That standard can be set

880
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 5: in the established by the coaches or whatever, but it's

881
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 5: uphill by the players.

882
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 4: So despite the talent that Andy.

883
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 5: Was alluding to, we can have a great team, we

884
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 5: can be superbly, supremely talented, but if everyone isn't operating

885
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 5: with the same standard in mind, will never achieve what

886
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 5: we could achieve because everyone is not capable of being

887
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 5: trusted that they're going to perform at their best when

888
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 5: their best is required.

889
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: Oh this is where we get teams and we get

890
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 2: the surprise like we have today with the Commanders and

891
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: what dan Quinn was able to install again, you know.

892
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,479
Speaker 2: And Jason laughs at me all the time, my partner,

893
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,479
Speaker 2: Jason Smith during the week because remember he was coming

894
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 2: out of getting bounced out of Dallas because of what

895
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: happened with Jordan Love. But immediately it's like, all right,

896
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: here's the vision, let's go and the Bears. You mentioned

897
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 2: Cole Comet, you can go find audio before eber Flues

898
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 2: got fired of him. Jalen Johnson and several other team

899
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 2: leaders who were already barking up that tree. And then

900
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 2: you go and promote Thamas Brown and he did work

901
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 2: some wonders right as coordinator with Caleb Williams, they got

902
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: rid of some of the stuff. Look, I hate that

903
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 2: everybody wanted to pin on the Hey, look, he hasn't

904
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: thrown an interception in forever. It's like, yeah, that also

905
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 2: tells me you're not trying to push the ball right,

906
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 2: You're not being aggressive in your play calling in structure.

907
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: But that's for Ben Johnson to now figure out. But

908
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 2: all of that to say, you had that, you had

909
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 2: that in Miami right with Mike McDaniel, and now you

910
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: my god, now you get the Tyreek Hill thing where

911
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 2: he's like, well, you know, I've always been a winner.

912
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 2: I've always been great. I'm paraphrasing quite obviously and giving

913
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 2: you the full camera effect here in Hollywood, and you're like, wow,

914
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 2: I mean so for me, I mean, I was just

915
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 2: frustrated because I'm just so used to being so great,

916
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 2: which okay, and that's all find and good, but Mike

917
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 2: McDaniel really just calling out the entire locker room. It's like,

918
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 2: look in the mirror. You had eighteen weeks to fix that.

919
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 4: I can't. I can't.

920
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 5: I mean, look, I can only find him. I can

921
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 5: It's only so much I can do. If they keep

922
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 5: being late. What if everyone is late, there's nothing that

923
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 5: you can do. I mean, guys are gonna be late.

924
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 5: So it's only so much you can do. I can

925
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 5: only take so much money out of their pocket or whatever. Well,

926
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 5: then if they are perpetually late, at some point you

927
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 5: got to let them go. You got to sit them down.

928
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 5: That's the only thing that I know that resonates at

929
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 5: every level. If you put someone on the bench and

930
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 5: take their playing time, that quickly gets their attention. No

931
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 5: matter how much money you make, these guys are all

932
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 5: the same. If they're not doing what you want them

933
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 5: to do, sit them down, the behavior changes. There's a

934
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 5: great clip out there Bobby Knight talking about how there

935
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 5: is something that the bench does through osmosis to get

936
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 5: people to play better. And so if you find that clip,

937
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 5: it explains it all. But Bobby Knight says it, and

938
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 5: I agree with it. If you don't like what you're getting,

939
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 5: you don't like their behavior, sit them down to make

940
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 5: the behavior change.

941
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 2: Guys on the edge of their seats, hoping to get

942
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 2: their five minutes, steal a little bit of time where

943
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: maybe they wouldn't in a normal matchup. Same thing, right times,

944
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 2: you got to send the strong match message right with Andy,

945
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 2: you know, he brings up the Bengals and what they

946
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 2: were doing, and obviously I brought up the Super Bowl

947
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: of the expectations of running back. Well, Zach Taylor's failed

948
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: them every September, and obviously Joe Burrows had some injury issues.

949
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 2: But if you don't play football in September, you can't

950
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 2: expect to be able to charge down the field like

951
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 2: like a thoroughbread at the Kentucky Derby in December, because

952
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 2: then you need a lot of stuff to go your way. Right,

953
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 2: horse gets tired, jockey gets you know, frustrated, can't close out,

954
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 2: starts to go a little wide because it's tired, all

955
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 2: of those things. Like you're banking on everything to go

956
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 2: perfectly for you if you give away those games early.

957
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: So I always get up frustrated. I was like, Ah,

958
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: it's an early September game. It's like that's finding college football, right,

959
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,320
Speaker 2: as long as you're within the parameters of a twelve

960
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 2: team playoff High Alabama that you're going to get a

961
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 2: chance to go play for a title. But in Bros,

962
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: that's not the way it works.

963
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 5: It doesn't work that way. And you have to continue

964
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 5: to work on them when it comes to that part

965
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 5: of it, like they need to continue to work on

966
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 5: making sure that everyone is on the same page.

967
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 4: You got to hold them accountable.

968
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 5: You got to get that part right before you can

969
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 5: even think about the x's and o's. And it's funny

970
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,479
Speaker 5: because we have seen lesser teams go to the Super

971
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 5: Bowl that you being a Bears fan, the team that

972
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 5: with Devin Hester and those guys, they were talented, but

973
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 5: that was not the most talented team that you've seen

974
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 5: come through Chicago.

975
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 2: Oh, everything had to go right, go back to turnovers

976
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 2: and the ball bouncing your way, defensive turnovers, Devin Hester

977
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 2: setting records. The offense had its moments, right, Thomas Jones

978
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 2: and those guys they had, they had their moments. But

979
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 2: certainly it wasn't the wizardry around Rex Grossman that got

980
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 2: that to work. Sometimes you win lucky, you win ugly.

981
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, And it was the vibe and the energy right,

982
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 5: Like the vibe was right, the players are right, that

983
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 5: defense I just remember going to Washington practice early in

984
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 5: the year and how Lovey Smith had them running to

985
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 5: the ball like mad men, how Pena Tillman was knocking

986
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 5: the ball out, and how it was contagious when it

987
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 5: came to their defense. Their defense was their best offense,

988
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 5: and how they would pick up everything and the expectation

989
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 5: wasn't that they were going to turn the ball over.

990
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 4: They talked about scoring every time they got a turnover.

991
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 4: It was like a.

992
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 5: Coordinated return team when you receive that Bears team go offensively.

993
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 5: They weren't great, right, they did enough, but they that

994
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 5: team went to a Super Bowl. There have been teams

995
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 5: that are better, more talented than that group that Chicago

996
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 5: can't even get to a winning record. And part of

997
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 5: that is the culture and the environment, you know, I mean,

998
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 5: that's what it is.

999
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 4: And you have to fix that.

1000
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 5: And so we'll see if Ben Johnson is able to

1001
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 5: implement and install a culture that allows those guys to

1002
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 5: play better. But every athlete, every player that's worth assault,

1003
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 5: they want structure, discipline, and consistency. They want to know

1004
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 5: that every day they come in it's going to be

1005
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,479
Speaker 5: the same kind of structure and environment, so they can

1006
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 5: settle in and do what they need to do to

1007
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 5: be ready.

1008
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 2: Their kids, their kids going to school. Here's my structure,

1009
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 2: one three, five day, here's the classes I gotta go.

1010
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 2: Here's when lunch is. And that's what Billy's gonna call

1011
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 2: me a jerk. I'm gonna, you know, you know, do

1012
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 2: the little hand gestures like I'm from a mob movie.

1013
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 2: We're gonna nod our heads and move on with our day.

1014
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's structure, it's it's continuity, right, whenever

1015
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 2: you have something that comes out of the weeds. Right,

1016
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 2: I can plan to get here early to record a

1017
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 2: podcast or whatever, but guess what, I'm in Los Angeles.

1018
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,800
Speaker 2: What was a forty minute drive becomes two hours. Sorry,

1019
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 2: we'll have to do it after the show or tomorrow.

1020
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 2: I you know, best laid plans and all of those things.

1021
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 2: But you're trying to have a structure, a continuity, post

1022
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 2: consistently all of those best practices kind of things that

1023
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,279
Speaker 2: you go through. So I have to ask you out

1024
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 2: of these hires. We're still waiting on New Orleans to

1025
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 2: figure out what they're doing. Uh, And I figure you're

1026
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,240
Speaker 2: gonna just give me a thread of like nine thousand

1027
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: things of what really happened with Liam Cohen and everything

1028
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 2: there in Jacksonville. Who's your favorite higher out of the six?

1029
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 4: You know? My favorite high is Pete Carroll going to

1030
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 4: the Las Vegas Raiders.

1031
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 5: And the reason why is I want to see if

1032
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 5: Pete Carroll is able to do what he did at

1033
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 5: USC and Seattle, where he being the ultimate culture builder,

1034
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 5: jumps in there like the pie Piper, sings all this

1035
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 5: positive songs, you know, throws the ball around while chewing

1036
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 5: that bubblelicious bubblegum and just trying to get the Raiders going.

1037
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 5: Because there's some decent players with the Las Vegas Raiders,

1038
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 5: but what they've missed is what we talked about, the consistency,

1039
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,720
Speaker 5: the structure, the discipline, and even the detail.

1040
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 4: And even though Pete Carroll is a little.

1041
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 5: Loosey goosey if you compare him to like the Nick

1042
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 5: Saban and Bill Belichick types, he has had a lot

1043
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 5: of success doing it his own way. So I want

1044
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 5: to see if he can get the Raiders to play

1045
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 5: like the Raiders while having fun and doing all that

1046
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 5: other stuff that he.

1047
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 4: Does within a very structured environment.

1048
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 5: So I'm excited about that and I'm also excited about, Like, look,

1049
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 5: all of these coaching hires can't work.

1050
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 4: So if you have six coaching hires, one is going

1051
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 4: to hit in a major.

1052
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:17,280
Speaker 5: Way, Maybe another one or two more may be okay,

1053
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 5: and then three are gonna feel miserably.

1054
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 4: I want to see what Aaron Lynn does.

1055
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 5: Going back to New York, going back to where he played,

1056
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 5: where he was reared and developed under Bill Parcelles and

1057
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,879
Speaker 5: Bill Belichick being there, and I want to see how

1058
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 5: much of that hard knows stuff he's able to implement there,

1059
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 5: because knowing Ag personally, I have seen him in an

1060
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 5: environment where high school kids completely tear them the streds

1061
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 5: when they did not meet the standard. So I can

1062
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 5: only imagine when Aaron Rodgers is over there doing his thing,

1063
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 5: his witchcraft and all this other stuff and his.

1064
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 4: Philosophizing on the sideline. Only imagine how long.

1065
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 5: That's gonna go over Will before he blows a gasket

1066
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 5: and tries to get him in line.

1067
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think I think we assume, yeah, as

1068
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 2: your word's there, I've got to assume that Rogers comes

1069
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 2: back and they get a placeholder, build the foundation. Kind

1070
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 2: of year we had Jason Cole on the other day

1071
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 2: he writes for the thirty third Team and Hall of

1072
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 2: Fame Voter, a bunch of books, the Lway Books, fantastic.

1073
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 2: He just raised his hand as Smith was trying to

1074
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 2: take a victory lap Jets guy, of course, for those unaware.

1075
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 2: Right after the Bears and Ben Johnson, the next day

1076
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 2: we get Aaron Glenn. But he just asked, rhetorically, how

1077
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 2: much different is this other than maybe he's more fiery

1078
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: than Robert Salah in terms of what you're bringing in

1079
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: the CV the history obviously Glenn played, but in terms

1080
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 2: of temperament and what he's bringing to the table, you know,

1081
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:59,280
Speaker 2: major differences. That's suddenly gonna make the Jets a contender.

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00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 4: I mean, that is a really good point. I don't know.

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00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 5: I mean I wonder what does change? What does change

1084
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 5: with all of it? Do they can't? Can can he

1085
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 5: get him? Can he get him better? Who's gonna be

1086
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 5: the offensive coach? You know how they're going to do

1087
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 5: it when it comes to defensively?

1088
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 4: Is you gonna call it? Or is you gonna be

1089
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 4: the CEO type?

1090
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 5: All of those things are really interesting to me, really

1091
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 5: fascinating when it comes to it.

1092
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 4: But Jason Cole brings up a good thing.

1093
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 5: How is he different than Robert Salad because the gest

1094
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 5: is some unusual. Normally you go from defensive coach to

1095
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 5: offensive coach, back to defensive coach, et.

1096
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 4: Cetera, et cetera, because you always want the opposite of

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00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 4: what you had.

1098
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 5: Not that they're the same, but they are the same,

1099
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 5: two defensive guys that are like fire and brimstone types.

1100
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 2: What changes, right, new head men, right, new new territory

1101
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: for them to traverse. Aaron Wilson reporting that the passing

1102
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 2: game coordinator tight ends coach Nick k of the Rams

1103
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 2: is the leading candidate to be their offensive coordinator. So

1104
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 2: if you do bring back Rogers, right, it's well, you're

1105
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 2: gonna have to shuffle out some of his friends. So

1106
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 2: get through the moodiness there, and then how much do

1107
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 2: you take him at his word that the back half

1108
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 2: of the season was happy because he played some pretty

1109
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 2: good football at times. Right, They collapsed in the fourth

1110
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 2: quarter of games, So still some question marks there, but

1111
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: the numbers look good. Top ten in a bunch of

1112
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 2: categories touchdown to interception ratio. Is there a little bit

1113
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 2: more mobility? Did he need more time post injury to

1114
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 2: get back to more of Aaron Rodgers. You have to

1115
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: go and figure out how to Playkate Garrett Wilson, who

1116
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 2: clearly hated everybody and everything in the final weeks of

1117
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 2: that season. So that DeVante Adams does he come back,

1118
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: I mean, you've got some personnel questions, you got a

1119
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 2: new GM that comes in from Denver. All of that

1120
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 2: to say, you know, last year they won the offseason,

1121
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 2: everybody got excited, and it was an absolute train wreck.

1122
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 2: And now we look to the next Pete Carroll higher

1123
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 2: to me, Bucky is is fun for a million reais

1124
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 2: because as long as these guys are wandering the sideline

1125
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 2: him there and Belichick, you know down in North Carolina,

1126
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 2: you're Alma mater, and you'll go and you know you're

1127
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 2: gonna get me a bunch of sign pictures and stuff.

1128
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 2: Thank you. And then the or lebron and Staph that

1129
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 2: we talked about in now ur one. So long as

1130
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 2: they're playing, I don't feel so old.

1131
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 5: M hm.

1132
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 4: I mean, yes, I'm with that, you know what I mean.

1133
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 2: And then Andy Reid sixty eight doesn't seem sixty eight.

1134
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 2: But the question is, now does he color his mustache

1135
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 2: like Ryan Day?

1136
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 4: The Ryan Day thing is fascinating. It's funny like it

1137
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 4: it is, it is, it is funny.

1138
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 2: Well, I mean the guy can coach, right, We established that,

1139
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 2: and everybody called it the lunatic fringe of potentially getting

1140
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 2: fired and whatever. It's always the conversation that we have

1141
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 2: of who are you gonna find that's better. But we've

1142
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 2: watched with a number of coaches where those the cacophony

1143
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 2: of voices starts to rise up. Like I said, I

1144
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 2: do a weekly spot in Baltimore. They didn't lead with

1145
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 2: the Andrews drop. They led with Harbaugh and then got

1146
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 2: to Lamar Jackson and eventually got to Mark Andrews. You

1147
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 2: knew the meat was there for Mark Andrews quite obviously,

1148
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 2: because as I said during the week, and everyone's like, wow,

1149
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 2: it's still ninety seconds Josh Allen and blah blah blah,

1150
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 2: And I'm like, they gave up six points in the

1151
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 2: second half. Did the Baltimore defense They gave up twenty

1152
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 2: one in the first half. Seven of them off of

1153
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: the Lamar Jackson gaff gift right defense have played really well.

1154
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, would you rather have the two point conversion

1155
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 2: and fight Josh Allen or say, we don't get it,

1156
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 2: but you know what, we got a sliver of a

1157
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 2: chance to collect an on side kick. Oh and then

1158
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,239
Speaker 2: we have to trust Justin Tucker if we can't get

1159
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 2: a touchdown in those final minutes.

1160
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 4: Come on, you're okay with that?

1161
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 2: Bad arguments bad?

1162
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean you're okay with what that is going

1163
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 5: on to be. So it's look, man, it's a tough

1164
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 5: situation for the poor ravens Lamar Jackson. I actually felt

1165
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 5: like Lamar Jackson's reaction after the game was almost as

1166
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 5: if a weight was lifted off his back because it

1167
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 5: was the first time he really played well in that round.

1168
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 5: We can talk about the turnovers and those things that

1169
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 5: he had.

1170
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,439
Speaker 4: He played really well the second.

1171
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 5: Half and in fact, that last drive was everything that

1172
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 5: you wanted to see that people that talked about can

1173
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 5: lead him back and whatever.

1174
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 4: And so he is.

1175
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 5: A drop two point conversion away from I would say

1176
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 5: a legacy performance.

1177
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 2: At least anything to push it over. Yeah.

1178
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, If anything, I think he comes walks away from

1179
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 5: that with more confidence that, Okay, if I can just

1180
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 5: settle in, I can do this at a high level

1181
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 5: in these big games.

1182
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 2: You know, it's fun stuff at Bucky Brooks where you

1183
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 2: find them, read them, NFL, Foxsports dot Com Podcast, everything else.

1184
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah your partner on the pod. He put up

1185
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 2: his first first round mock draft. You want to dive

1186
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 2: into that a little bit, Let's do that as we continue.

1187
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,360
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1188
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1189
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,680
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1192
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1194
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:38,800
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1195
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1196
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1207
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Speaker 2: hitting the snooze button and listening to us a little

1209
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 2: bit more, whatever the case is. Thank you. We love

1210
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 2: trying to entertain, inform, sometimes in rage and enrage each

1211
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 2: other as we go at Bucky Brooks where you find

1212
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 2: them on Twitter, at Big Play Football Instagram find me

1213
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 2: over at Swollen Dome in both places. Now I mentioned

1214
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 2: mock draft season has begun. We've got the Shrine game

1215
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 2: coming up. Shador Sanders with one of the great quotes

1216
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 2: of all times, like don't we try to get parents

1217
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 2: to be involved in their kids' lives and help them along.

1218
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 2: As people were asking about Dion and the Invisible Hand

1219
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 2: and whether it's a detriment to him, it's like it's narratives, goes.

1220
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 2: But isn't that what we always strive for? Isn't that

1221
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 2: the talking point? I really like the answer for him,

1222
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 2: as he smiled at the reporter the entire time.

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00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like that, And I would say, like, yeah,

1224
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 5: Dion is involved. He's very active and as much as

1225
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 5: he can influence and impact his kids career between the lines,

1226
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 5: he's done that and it's no different than what every

1227
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 5: parent would like to do.

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00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 4: That's why we have a bunch of plumbers out there called.

1229
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,919
Speaker 5: Johnson or Smith and Sons. Yeah, that's what you do.

1230
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,880
Speaker 5: I mean, that's what we do. And people don't like

1231
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 5: nepotism until they don't like nepotism, I.

1232
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 2: Mean, yeah, unless it's helping you.

1233
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, But like we all are tasked with trying to

1234
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 5: help and elevate our kids to put them in.

1235
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 4: A position now.

1236
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 5: We want to equip them though with the work ethic

1237
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 5: that they're competent and that they're able to do the

1238
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 5: job and do the job exceptionally well. But I feel

1239
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 5: like the job of the parent is to set the

1240
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 5: kid up for success, and I think that's.

1241
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 4: What Diana is certainly trying to do with both of

1242
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 4: his kids should do and shoot. It is funny, and

1243
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 4: Shoulder had a great answer to that.

1244
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 5: I am down in Dallas right now to look at

1245
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 5: East West Rim both practices call the game on Thursday,

1246
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 5: and I'm disappointed that he's not playing, but I certainly understand,

1247
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 5: and he came to do what is the important part

1248
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:33,439
Speaker 5: of the gig now for him, the interviews, to make

1249
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 5: the people at the top of the board comfortable with

1250
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 5: him as a potential franchise quarterback. And there's a lot

1251
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 5: of conversation because he has become the polarizing figure. I've

1252
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 5: already seen the.

1253
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 4: Conversation the father that's out there like, oh, I.

1254
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Speaker 5: Wouldn't even take him with a first round pick. He's

1255
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 5: the second rounder. I don't even know if he's.

1256
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 2: That Tell me you needed the clicks like a police

1257
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 2: police officer told to add some extra park tickets on

1258
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 2: the Thursday.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, let's calm down when it comes to that. Yeah,

1260
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 5: there's some flaws in his game and there's not.

1261
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Speaker 4: A perfect prospect.

1262
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 5: But remember everyone wasn't convinced that this year's class was good.

1263
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 4: Do you remember the.

1264
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 5: Outrage over bow Knicks considered the first round picks A

1265
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 5: checkdown guy shutting down char smart games. He's old, Michael Pennix.

1266
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 5: I mean, he's beat up. He's heard all of the conversation.

1267
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 5: We are now in what I call silly season, because

1268
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 5: it's about to get silly some of the narratives that

1269
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 5: we're going to hear about these things. There was a

1270
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 5: world in which people were already beginning to talk themselves,

1271
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 5: and they drew all their being maybe the best quarterback

1272
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 5: prospect of the ones that could be there, drew all

1273
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 5: of from Penn State who elected to come back.

1274
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Speaker 4: Conversations. Yeah, those are the conversations.

1275
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 5: That we're beginning to have where everyone is trying to

1276
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 5: one up the other to get more eyeballs on their stuff.

1277
01:01:58,360 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 4: And so it's it's funny.

1278
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 5: I'm glad my god, DJ took a swing at his

1279
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 5: first mock draft. I have you know, Mike, as we

1280
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 5: were sitting here doing the radio show, I am tentatively

1281
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 5: outlining my first mom here we go drop this week,

1282
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 5: and so I'm beginning to have some of those like Okay,

1283
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 5: here we go, Like let's make sure that we get

1284
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 5: the names right in the first round, but where can

1285
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 5: we maybe have some conversation starters.

1286
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Speaker 4: That's what we'll call them, yeah, you.

1287
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 5: Click bake, we will call them conversation starters, to be

1288
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 5: able to have a conversation.

1289
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 4: Well, it's like we this player in those things.

1290
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 2: It's like we were talking about with the Hall of

1291
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 2: Fame stuff, Right, do you start doing the blind resume stuff? Hey,

1292
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 2: why is this guy in? And this guy can't be considered?

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Speaker 2: And then you put the N pullet back and you

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01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 2: put the name up. It's like, oh, yeah, because he

1295
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 2: was a jerk, or because I didn't like his politics

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Speaker 2: or this or that. I'm obviously the most prescient example

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Speaker 2: is Kurt Shilling. But you go all the way down

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01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 2: with all the guys that were suspected ped guys, a

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01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 2: couple of guys who've already gotten in, They're like, wow,

1300
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 2: is the exact opposite of what happened with Sammy Sosa

1301
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 2: that year that he went away in the off season.

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01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 2: These guys went away for three months. And these guys

1303
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 2: are forty five pounds lighter, are they? Okay? Oh yeah no,

1304
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 2: it's just a great diet, just great diet.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, disagreed, disagreed, Just a great diet.

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01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:26,919
Speaker 5: They have terrific nutrition at these places, and so I yeah,

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Speaker 5: I get it.

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Speaker 2: Hey, as a guy working through my PhD weight loss,

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Speaker 2: Jason and I have been doing it. I'm I'm creeping

1310
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Speaker 2: past a weight I haven't seen in a long time.

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Speaker 2: I'm plunging over the goal line this week, Bucky lean

1312
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Speaker 2: and mean for twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: Look at you lean, mean, fighting machine.

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Speaker 2: Now we're trying getting it down. Yeah, that way, then

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Speaker 2: I can I can start running. Maybe I get back

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01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,640
Speaker 2: on a pitch somewhere and run around in these fifty

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Speaker 2: before my knee flies into the fourth row. Of course.

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Speaker 5: Okay, A be easy with that, because I look, I

1319
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 5: started the year like that. Yeah, I started the year

1320
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Speaker 5: like you know what, man, I just missed running. I'm

1321
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 5: gonna go out there and look. Harmony was great until

1322
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 5: it wasn't. He was great for about two weeks and

1323
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 5: then my kniece started having the perpetual ache.

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Speaker 4: That I was like, and this is why I stopped running.

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01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 2: Yep, and swells are bad.

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Speaker 5: And this is why the achiness, the twenty four hour

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Speaker 5: achingess is why.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna have to go and do the old

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Speaker 4: man walk thing. And we're walking, you know what?

1330
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Speaker 2: Effective? And you make a lot of friends in your

1331
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 2: neighborhood although every once in a while they give me

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01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 2: garbages I'm walking my dog around because when they see

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01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 2: the big studio headphones out, they know I had no

1334
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 2: desire to talk to anybody. Right If I've got the

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Speaker 2: earbuds in and they can't see, they'll approach if they,

1336
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Speaker 2: you know, think that I'm not wearing all. I think

1337
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 2: I'm running down the street. Hey how are you?

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Speaker 5: Men?

1339
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 2: Women are everybody that's out and just kind of hanging

1340
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Speaker 2: around down there in Redondo? And then but the big

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Speaker 2: headphone is like, oh serious, look on the face. He's

1342
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 2: got somewhere he's got to be. I'm yeah, sit in

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01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 2: traffic for nearly two hours to go to work. We've

1344
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 2: had this conversation, all right, So Daniel Jeremiah right off

1345
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 2: the jump abdual Carter from Penn State, and I love

1346
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 2: this because that's the Brian Cranston doing the circuit and

1347
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 2: answering the question from the guy that got funny and

1348
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 2: said something about the dude's mom and then dropped the microphone.

1349
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 2: But Edge Rusher Titans, Chad Brinker and I think for

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01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 2: a lot of us, and I'm sure you did too.

1351
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Speaker 2: And Daniel even writes it in his blurb saying, hey,

1352
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 2: we can't pass up on a generational guy. That led

1353
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 2: me to Carter in my thinking when he said that.

1354
01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 2: But maybe I'm blinded by my big ten allegiance.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, I mean generational.

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Speaker 2: Well, we use that term very flippantly anymore.

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Speaker 4: We do.

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Speaker 5: And then we have to determine was he generational in

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Speaker 5: September when we talked about it, Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if I heard about him generational, But

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Speaker 5: like now we're in micraft season. Yeah, generational. He's a

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Speaker 5: generational past rusher. He's a great athlete. He certainly is

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Speaker 5: Dad the double sticks that LeVar Arrington made famous, followed

1364
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 5: by Michael Parsons and others, and so, yeah, look, he's

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01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 5: a talented player. He can come off the edge. He

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Speaker 5: has a speed, the athleticism in quickness. You at the

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Speaker 5: top of the board, what you're looking for is someone

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Speaker 5: that you can squint your eyes and see all pro

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Speaker 5: maybe Hall of Fame potential.

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Speaker 4: It makes sense in that regard.

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Speaker 5: But we at the top of the board, and we

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Speaker 5: know everyone loves a quarterback, and so are we going

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Speaker 5: to bypass an opportunity to get a quarterback?

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Speaker 4: And run it back.

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Speaker 5: With Will Levis, Mason Rudolph or Sam Darnod, we'll just

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Speaker 5: throw that name out there.

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Speaker 4: Do we feel good about those things? If you're Brian

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Speaker 4: Callahan and his year.

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Speaker 5: Two and we're seeing how quickly coaches are being dumped,

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Speaker 5: are we okay with a quarterback being one.

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Speaker 4: Of those guys? Because if we are, then yeah, you

1382
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 4: can make that move. But we aren't.

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Speaker 5: And you bypass one of those quarterbacks and one of

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Speaker 5: those quarterbacks turns out to be a Jaden Daniels type,

1385
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Speaker 5: do you survive? That?

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Speaker 4: Just something to think about.

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Speaker 2: Well, considering you had a lot of people in December

1388
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 2: wondering if Callahan was coming back, right, because it is

1389
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 2: enamor status with Will Levice, who can throw the ball

1390
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Speaker 2: the country mile. He will also throw it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he can do splits evidently based on the commercial

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Speaker 5: he can do splits. And he's great with Mayo and

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Speaker 5: Mayo and and all that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, like eccentricity, right, I mean we're radio hosts and

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Speaker 2: media guys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's great. I love it.

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Speaker 5: I love I love having that as a as a

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Speaker 5: story to tell when we talk about But Will.

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Speaker 2: Right as you're looking at this and you're getting ready

1401
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 2: for the shrine game. Buck, you'll be on the broadcast Thursday.

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01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 2: We'll make sure to tweet that out and promote as

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01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 2: you get ready, because then we'll get to chop it

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01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 2: up on what you saw next Sunday. But when we

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Speaker 2: look at the top of the board, are any of

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Speaker 2: those quarterbacks other than the fact that their quarterbacks and

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01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 2: we're desperate that you really say, is a guy like

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Speaker 2: if you had Chidor in the room, are Ward? What's

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01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 2: the first question you're asking him?

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Speaker 5: I think for cam Ward is Kenny Hardest, Kenny Harness

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Speaker 5: to gun slinging.

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Speaker 4: He is a talented player who has done it at

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01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 4: three different.

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Speaker 5: Places incarnate Word first, Washington State, second, Miami third. The

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Speaker 5: good part of that is you've seen him progress and

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01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 5: you've seen him actually step up in competition with each

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01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 5: change in location. So you feel good about his ability

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01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 5: to adapt and adjust to the next level because he's

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01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 5: shown that the more you give him, the more he

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Speaker 5: can do. You can say the same about Shadr Sanders

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01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:39,679
Speaker 5: shadur Gorn from Jackson State HBCU two year starter goes

1422
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 5: to Colorado two year Starter turned around both programs. We

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Speaker 5: can't dispute that as a quarterback, we can talk about

1424
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 5: he's non athletic and some of the things that you

1425
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 5: hear about him were the things that hung around c. J.

1426
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 5: Stroud in terms of the athleticism and those things hangs

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01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 5: onto the ball a long time. There're being comparisons loosely

1428
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 5: made to Geno Smith in terms of Geno Smith the Pro.

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Speaker 4: Bowl caliber talent. Here's what I say. He's played in

1430
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Speaker 4: a bunch of big time games and.

1431
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 5: He has had a lot of spotlight on him. And

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Speaker 5: when we talk about the franchise quarterback and the amount

1433
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,759
Speaker 5: of attention that comes with that, he has handled himself

1434
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:19,640
Speaker 5: pretty well in the scorching eye of the storm that

1435
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 5: comes with being the son of Deion Sanders and all

1436
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 5: the stuff that they've done. So I think both guys

1437
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Speaker 5: are NFL starters. Both guys have the ability to be

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Speaker 5: winning quarterbacks. I can say that they're transformational in terms

1439
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 5: of how they're going to change the game and those things.

1440
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 5: But I think both guys can be winning quarterbacks. And

1441
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:40,959
Speaker 5: if you have an opportunity to get a winning quarterback,

1442
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 5: you jump at the notion. To me, people will then say,

1443
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 5: like I have Bolnicks graded above them. I think you

1444
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 5: can put them in bow Knicks all in the same category.

1445
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 5: When I look at bow Knicks and what he did

1446
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:55,639
Speaker 5: his first year in the league, playoff appearance, played well,

1447
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 5: challenged Jayden Daniels as Offensive Rookie of.

1448
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 4: The Year based on how he led the Broncos.

1449
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 5: I think all of us would take that, which is

1450
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 5: why I'm hile cam Ward and Shuter.

1451
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 2: Sanders impressive all around. We'll keep an eye out for

1452
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 2: Bucky and his first round mock at the end of

1453
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:11,960
Speaker 2: the week and all of his coverage at Bucky Brooks

1454
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 2: at Big Play Football, what he's got going on with

1455
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 2: the Shrine game as he calls that on Thursday. I

1456
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 2: know the practices are going and all the interviews, all

1457
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 2: the fun stuff, the medicals and all of that that

1458
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 2: you can get to. And I applied for my virtual

1459
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 2: media access so I could sit around in my T

1460
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:31,680
Speaker 2: shirt and shorts instead of getting out. Well, man, look man,

1461
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 2: it's expensive flying around at this point. I got kids

1462
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 2: to get around. But we got all of that, We've

1463
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 2: got prop bets, we've got our examination of the championship

1464
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:44,559
Speaker 2: game ahead. Last point, off of what we talked about

1465
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 2: house money and everything, ask Bobby slow cow House money.

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Speaker 5: Goes see, Hey, I'm glad, I'm glad you brought that up, right.

1467
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 5: Bobby Slogan was the hottest guy right and everyone was like, hey, man,

1468
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 5: make sure you get the right job. You don't take

1469
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 5: the head job. Make sure it's to write one harmon.

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01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 5: We've said this. When someone offers you an opportunity to

1471
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 5: run a team. Yeah, we can talk about fits and

1472
01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 5: gotta have this an alignment or whatever, but they're only

1473
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 5: thirty two of them, and you got to get it

1474
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:19,679
Speaker 5: when you're hot, and so we can debate about, hey,

1475
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 5: is it a perfect storm, and you can act like

1476
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 5: your ice and top gun and you're waiting for the

1477
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,799
Speaker 5: perfect shot. But sometimes you got to operate light Maverick.

1478
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,480
Speaker 5: Sometimes you just got to shoot and figure it out.

1479
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 5: And unfortunately for Bobby Slowick, he didn't do it. He

1480
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 5: didn't get a gig, and so now he almost has

1481
01:11:36,320 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 5: to start back at the bottom of the ladder to

1482
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 5: climb back up to be a viable head coaching candidate,

1483
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 5: which is nothing that any of us saw heading into

1484
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 5: the season.

1485
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 2: And escalated quickly. Bad offensive line, a lot of injuries.

1486
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:51,759
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter you win the division. They expected more

1487
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 2: just how fickle a business it all is. At Bucky

1488
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 2: Brooks is where you find and find me over at

1489
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 2: Swollen Dome. Now it's time to bring you on a

1490
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 2: man who's full of information. Notice how I didn't drag

1491
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 2: that out so you can connect the dots and fill

1492
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 2: in the blank with your own feelings of Isaac Lowlancron,

1493
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 2: because I think he's a man of great integrity and

1494
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 2: knowledge at Isaac Lolandkron on Twitter.

1495
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 9: Well, well that's gonna be uh. I appreciate that very much.

1496
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 9: But with the content of this particular report, that's all

1497
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 9: going to be destroyed within the next two minutes. Thanks

1498
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 9: to you out there, the sports fans of America, particularly

1499
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 9: in cities involved in the conference championship games today that

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Speaker 9: coming up just moments from now. But first we start

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01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 9: with Saturday night's NBA Action break up. The Los Angeles Lakers.

1502
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 9: They won at Golden State. What eighteen to want to

1503
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 9: wait on Saturday night to improve to a season best

1504
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 9: seven games above five hundred and twenty five. At eighteen,

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01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 9: they're on a three game winning street. They've won five

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Speaker 9: of six. The Houston Rockets won in Cleveland, won thirty

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01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 9: five to one thirty one. The Rockets a Men Thompson

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01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 9: with a triple double, the Knicks Josh Harden with a

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01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:56,000
Speaker 9: triple double, and they're one forty three to one twenty

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01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:59,799
Speaker 9: triumph over the Sacramento Kings. Earlier Saturday, Dallas forward maxi

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Speaker 9: but broke his right foot in a loss to the

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Speaker 9: Boston Celtics. Conference Championship Sunday kicks off at three pm

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Speaker 9: Eastern with the NFC Championship Game as the Philadelphia Eagles

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Speaker 9: host the Washington Commanders. Now last night in Philadelphia, a

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Speaker 9: large group of Commanders fans held a get together at

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01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 9: the hard Rock Cafe in downtown Philly, leading one of

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01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 9: them to post this clip of the get together with

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Speaker 9: the caption quote taking over Philly.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 9: Eagles fans were not amused at Donut Dan responding quote

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Speaker 9: the hard Rock Cafe was Applebee's full or something. Jalen

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Speaker 9: Carter muse posting tell me you ain't been to Philly

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01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:54,679
Speaker 9: without telling me you ain't been to Philly. And finally

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01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:58,560
Speaker 9: Julyissa posting hard Rock Cafe is a place where teenagers

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01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 9: go for their birthday dinner. Is lmfao anyway? The encore

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01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 9: of that at six point thirty eastern, the Kansas City

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01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 9: Chiefs hosting the Buffalo Bills in the AFC Championship Game,

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Speaker 9: and from the sublime to the ridiculous in social media

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Speaker 9: conspiracy theory news. As many of you out there know,

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01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 9: Buffalo Bills fans are known from, among other things, leaping

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01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 9: into folding tables. Well, there is a rumor circulating on

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01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 9: social media right now that Kansas City area retailers are

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01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 9: refusing to sell folding tables to anyone without a Missouri

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01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 9: driver's license. The rumor apparently originated in a Bills fans

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01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 9: Facebook group, but sadly, there is no evidence out there.

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Speaker 2: That this rumor is true. Back to you guys at

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01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 2: Isaac Lowancrown, and I'll say this, I support small businesses.

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01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 2: I love small business. If you're refusing them from going

1539
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 2: and busting a table based on the team that they

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01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 2: cheer for, you're a dope. Just you jack up the

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01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 2: prices what you do, and you deserve to suffer some consequences,

1542
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 2: because I mean, that's just printing money here. I ordered

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01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 2: extra eight foot tables, let's go. I even saw it

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01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 2: a little bit into him, like I'm a Hollywood producer,

1545
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 2: so it can go through like you know, you'd break

1546
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:19,839
Speaker 2: a guitar over a guy's head, like you're Jeff Jarrett.

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01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 2: How do you like that? He's Isaac, that's Bucky. I'm Mike.

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01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 2: As we continue here Fox Sports Radio, Fox Football Sunday,

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01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 2: we'll talk all things championship games as we close up

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Speaker 2: this hour. That's Sex on Fox. Hey, welcome back in

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01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 2: It's Fox Football Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. Coming up in

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01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 2: ten minutes, we got countdown to Kickoff presented by Bett MGM,

1553
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 2: Bill and Jeff and Brian. Getting you ready for a

1554
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 2: couple of championship games, the ends and the outs, the parlays,

1555
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 2: the live betting lines, and where maybe you lean in

1556
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:53,680
Speaker 2: do some of the historical between these squads, cause it's

1557
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:55,600
Speaker 2: setting up to be a fun day. You got the

1558
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 2: upstart Washington commanders. Nick sirianni Is he's still on a

1559
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 2: hot seat, Jalen Hurts, how big is that brace gonna be?

1560
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 2: And on the other side, now everybody hates the chiefs Bucky.

1561
01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:09,680
Speaker 2: Now they're talking about not only sky Judge kind of thing.

1562
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 2: But now we're gonna maybe expand reviews some more chefter reporting.

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01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:17,680
Speaker 2: Yesterday the replay assists is looking like it's going to

1564
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 2: expand this offseason to where you can get the red

1565
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 2: button and zap down to the officials. That'll start including

1566
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:27,640
Speaker 2: quarterback slides, those out of bounds plays and all that

1567
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:28,479
Speaker 2: other fun stuff.

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01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 5: Wow, that's I mean, that's big that it takes some

1569
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 5: of the conspiracy theorists. That's just satisfy them, you know,

1570
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 5: to be able to add another layer to it.

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01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 4: I wonder how many.

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Speaker 5: Well, if it's coming straight down from that, that's just

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01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 5: an extension of what they're already doing, so it shouldn't

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01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:45,679
Speaker 5: change anything.

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01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 2: No, that's it right in theory. It's just a more

1576
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 2: transparency over what you're already supposed to be doing. Right,

1577
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:55,719
Speaker 2: because they've expanded it a couple of times and putting

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01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 2: in more language. I don't know if it's like a

1579
01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 2: player contract where we just want everything enumerated. At this

1580
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 2: point of what they might look at. To me, it

1581
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 2: just sho just blinking say common sense as two controversies

1582
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:09,720
Speaker 2: and making sure we get it right, particularly with the

1583
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 2: high definition televisions and giant seventy two inch ninety six

1584
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 2: inch screens. Everybody's watching this stuff on with innumerable replays.

1585
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 2: Got to get it right. It's a lot of money

1586
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 2: being transacted, both in the betting markets and just in

1587
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 2: general people going to games and the television revenue, et cetera.

1588
01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 2: Schefter then pointed this out from just a little less

1589
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 2: than a half hour ago during the Chiefs eight game

1590
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 2: win streak in the playoffs, roughing the passer opponents six

1591
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 2: Chiefs zero, unnecessary roughness opponents four Chiefs one. Now, there

1592
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,040
Speaker 2: was a stat during the National title game that just

1593
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,960
Speaker 2: floored me that I couldn't believe it was right when

1594
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 2: they said that there had only been one holding penalty

1595
01:17:55,760 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 2: called against the Ohio State defense all year, like as

1596
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 2: their pass rushers are coming in like no opponent, like,

1597
01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 2: there was literally one call of holding as they tried

1598
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 2: to suppress the pass rush that was coming from Ryan

1599
01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 2: Day and his squad. So that's kind of interesting. But

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Speaker 2: we love conspiracy theories, and certainly there'll be plenty of them.

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01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 2: I think we'll see the twitter whale during the evening game.

1602
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 2: You think all that's gonna take is one play, Get

1603
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:27,559
Speaker 2: those memes ready for those that want to hate Taylor Swift.

1604
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 2: You'll have that. Maybe Caitlyn Clark shows up again, because

1605
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 2: now she's getting a low back.

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01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:37,719
Speaker 5: You are talking about absolutely blowing up the Twitter verse

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01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 5: if you get Caitlyn Clark and let's get them side

1608
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 5: by side into booths like we saw the other day.

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01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 2: They just keep playing the bad Blood video. It's it.

1610
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 2: It's one of the greatest music videos ever made. It's

1611
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 2: got everybody, Selanna Gomez, Steinfeld, Taylor Swift. So why do

1612
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 2: I sound like Patrick Warburton in my own head? But

1613
01:18:57,439 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 2: as we go through we talked about the games, is

1614
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 2: who's the guy that you're looking for a breakthrough surprise

1615
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 2: performance to tip the scales for either of these for

1616
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 2: any of these squads.

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01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:09,799
Speaker 1: I think Xavier.

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01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,040
Speaker 5: Worthy has to be a big part of the thing

1619
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 5: for the Kancity Chiefs. But the guy who's a surprised

1620
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 5: how about DeAndre Hopkins maybe showing up and kind of

1621
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 5: being what they want him to be.

1622
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 2: Zero catches last week first.

1623
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 5: Zero catches non factor, but remember the experience matters, and

1624
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 5: then let's go to the commanders.

1625
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 4: Somebody else has to do it. So how about Dianmi.

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01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:30,719
Speaker 5: Brown catching some big passes to alleviate some own oppression

1627
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:31,599
Speaker 5: on Terry mcvaran.

1628
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:33,720
Speaker 2: Let's see if we can get another John Cena. You

1629
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:36,599
Speaker 2: can't see me handing his face and a dime from

1630
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:39,640
Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels, He's Bucky Brooks. Following at Bucky Brooks, I'm

1631
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 2: over at Swollen Dome count down to kick off his

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Speaker 2: next Enjoy the games,