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Rick Neuheisel from cbsport which 19 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: will stop by what did we learn more about USC 20 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: or Colorado over the weekend? What do you have? Seaton? Yeah, 21 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: we got up there. 22 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,479 Speaker 3: The best loss of the weekend, Bears, Jets, Colorado other 23 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 3: Right now, the Jets at fifty percent have the best 24 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 3: loss this weekend, followed by Colorado. Bears are at just 25 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 3: sixteen percent of the vote. 26 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: Now, the Bears put their hands in the you know, 27 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: the franchises in the hands of Justin Fields. They decided 28 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: they were going to stay with him. He rushed for 29 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: eleven hundred yards, they had the number one pick, they 30 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: traded the number one pick, they got a very good receiver, 31 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: and they'll have Carolina's number one pick coming up this 32 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 2: next year. But you start to look at this, even 33 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 2: though they got DJ Moore and he's had multiple one 34 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: thousand yard seasons, he had over one hundred and twenty 35 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: yards yesterday in the loss. Having Justin Fields in there 36 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: doesn't ensure that he'll stay there next year. They'll be 37 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: looking for a new head coach next year, and they're 38 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: going to be on the clock, probably with the number 39 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: one overall pick, or at least one of the top 40 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: three or four first round picks, maybe top two. When 41 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: you think about it, with Carolina, those are two teams 42 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 2: that aren't going anywhere probably, and Justin Fields, although he 43 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: looked really good, it's when you wanted him to look 44 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: really good and then he didn't. And Denver after giving 45 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: up you know, seventy points. Losing by fifty is a 46 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: three and a half point favorite at Chicago tells you 47 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: everything you need to know about the Chicago Bears. Russell 48 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: Wilson is back right, had a nice win there. Here's 49 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 2: russ Let's ride on games online. 50 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 4: That's what you gotta love it most. That's what you 51 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 4: gotta love it most. And you gotta have some great belief. 52 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 4: You gotta have no fear. One of the biggest thing 53 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 4: about winning, and you know winning, you know, comeback games 54 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 4: and all that. It's it's everybody. It's not just you. 55 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: All right, that's nice. You know, after you play the 56 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: Dolphins and then you get to play the Bears, that 57 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: always helps. All else fails. Who we playing and when 58 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 2: are we playing the Bears? So the Chiefs hold off 59 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: the Jets, Bills roll the Dolphins. Ugly losses for the 60 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: Bengals and Patriots, Niners, Eagles undefeated, Texans hammer the Steelers, 61 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 2: Ravens roll the Browns, Dallas embarrasses the Patriots. Here Bill 62 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: Belichick on the Patriots performance, I just said, we didn't 63 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 2: do anything well enough as a team. 64 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 5: So it includes everybody, coaches, players, offense, defense, special teams. 65 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: So was anything that was good enough. I think every 66 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 2: question that he was asked he said the same thing, 67 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 2: no matter what you ask it was basically, we didn't 68 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: do anything good. We didn't do anything good. It's almost 69 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 2: like he resigned himself to the fact, you know what, 70 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: we're not that good. And it feels like when a 71 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: game is over, well before it's over, you know, your 72 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: mental capacity to soak it in is probably fully absorbed. 73 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, we're not any good, and then they 74 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 2: go out and play the third yeh, we're not any good. 75 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: And then they play the fourth quarter and we're not 76 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: any good. Hey, you're going to meet the media, coach, 77 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: how do you think you've played? We didn't do anything good. 78 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: That's it now. I think bigger picture questions have to 79 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 2: be asked. If that team is going to be missing 80 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: the playoffs again, is Mac Jones your quarterback moving forward? 81 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 2: And I would say probably not right, And then you 82 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: just don't want to be a no man's land in 83 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:32,119 Speaker 2: the NFL like the Bears at least will have hope 84 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 2: next year. A new head coach probably a new quarterback, 85 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: number one overall pick, or maybe they'll get Marvin Harrison. 86 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 2: Now they'll get something where you go, okay, there's something there. 87 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 2: But the Patriots, like if you get stuck picking tenth again, 88 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: you're a no man's land and you just they're bordering 89 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 2: on being irrelevant. If Belichick wasn't there, they would be irrelevant, 90 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: and you never want to be that way. You want 91 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: to least be interesting. I mean, the Cardinals play hard. 92 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 2: I don't think they're good, but they play hard. The 93 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 2: Patriots should be good, but they just don't seem threatening. Yeah. 94 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: See, now, how do you move on from your coach? 95 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 3: Then if he's the only thing that keeps you relevant. 96 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: That's part of the problem because now you're going to 97 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 2: have to keep him around for at least two more 98 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: seasons so he can break down Shula's whole time record. 99 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: That seems like a conundrum. Let's keep him even though 100 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 2: is he holding us back? Now? And who wants to 101 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: play there? When Brady was there, you wanted to play there. 102 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 2: You knew you were going to play in meaningful games. 103 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: Maybe you win a Super Bowl and Chris Long, you know, 104 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: went there just to win a super Bowl and you 105 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 2: don't have that draw, Like does any offensive player go 106 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 2: I want to play with Mac Jones. Defensive players go, 107 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 2: hey once coach Lawrence Taylor. I want Bill Belichick to coach. 108 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: There's just nothing there now. I think that's just stating 109 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: the obvious. But can you bring somebody in? Who do 110 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: you bring him in? How do you do this with Bill? 111 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: Can you help Bill with the front office? I don't know. 112 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: And these are questions that have been asked the last 113 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: four years here. But Bill Belichick, the GM would have 114 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 2: fired Bill Belichick the coach. I think yes, And it 115 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 2: is tough. 116 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 3: Yet when you look around the locker room, say on offense, 117 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: because the defense has been pretty good. Yeah, but he 118 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 3: it's like Juju Smith Schuster, I don't know what he's 119 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 3: got left in the tank. Ezekiel Elliott doesn't seem to 120 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 3: have much either. If you're hanging everything on Remandra Stevenson 121 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 3: to get you going, he's been great. He's been fantastic. 122 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 3: But that's about it. Hunter Henry sometimes is there, sometimes 123 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 3: he's not. 124 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it just feels like he brings in somebody for 125 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 2: a year. You're trying to capture some magic in a 126 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 2: year like that Guy's going to commit. Zeke Elliott can't 127 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 2: play Hunter Henry. I had great promise for him, but 128 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: his better days are behind him. It just don't They 129 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: don't have anything. Mac Jones just feels like, maybe not 130 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: the best situation for him. He's like Rock Purty. You 131 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 2: got to surround him and then maybe he can be 132 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: a very you know, accommodating quarterback. But if you ask 133 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: him to generate, that ain't happening. 134 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, Mark, Yeah, the Patriots, the one year deals are legendary, 135 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 6: either you be Hory Dillon. 136 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: Or Chad ochocinco Yes, Todd. 137 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 7: It's just so hard to fathom when you said that 138 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 7: out loud, the question is maybe is Bill Belichick holding 139 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 7: us back? Just sounds so odd putting it out there. 140 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: But it's okay. He had Matt Patricia's his offensive coordinator 141 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: that wasn't smart, so greatest coach of all time and 142 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 2: you got a defensive coordinator as your offensive coordinator. 143 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 3: However, this year they don't have that situation and we 144 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 3: go back to last year in a harty. 145 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, but the same guy as the head coach though, 146 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: that's the problem. All Right, I made a mistake then, 147 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 2: but I'm not going to make that mistake this year. Yes, Pauly, 148 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: you know. 149 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 8: After Pretty left, it feels like the E Street Band, 150 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 8: Like at the E Street Band decided to go out 151 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 8: on tour, Like why is nobody here? Why is no 152 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 8: one going crazy? Why can't we put eighty thousand here? 153 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 8: Because Bruce isn't here? Like, Brady cleaned up everything. They 154 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 8: had a bunch of seasons where they'd win ten or eleven, 155 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 8: they'd sneak into the playoffs, and he cleaned up everything. 156 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 8: He made David Patton and all those guys look great. 157 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:18,559 Speaker 8: Troy Brown. 158 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, but at least the East Street Band has talent. 159 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, more talent at the wide receiver position. 160 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 2: Yes, of course they do. 161 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, I think you guys are forgetting though, that 162 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 3: the Patriots were drafting Tom Brady's replacement his entire career. Yeah, 163 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 3: his entire career. Ryan Mallett was going to be the 164 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 3: guy that replaced him. It was constant. It was every 165 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 3: year about, well, let's see how much longer they do this? 166 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 9: Now. 167 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: Tom was the guy driving the whole ship. They couldn't 168 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 2: do it without him. Was Bill Belichick. 169 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 3: He probably Tom Brady would have been better without Bill Belichick. 170 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 2: But I still think Belichick would have moved on from 171 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 2: Brady before they did, definitely because he loved Garoppolo and 172 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: so once again that would have been a decision that 173 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: Bill would have made, I think, and that wouldn't have 174 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: been the right decision. I you know. 175 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 8: The other thing is how attractive is that job the 176 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 8: Patriots do? You don't want to follow Belichick in New England? No, 177 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 8: I mean, if you're like a let's say you're a 178 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 8: hot college coach's throw out a name whatever, I say, 179 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 8: a really hot college coach, you're gonna go to the 180 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 8: Patriots and try to compete with that legacy. It's not 181 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 8: even an attractive job. And they don't pay well. I 182 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 8: shouldn't say that. 183 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 2: They know they gets paid, he gets he gets paid. 184 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 2: I don't. I think they're thrifty when it comes to 185 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: the players. 186 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 6: Yes, Mark, was it a big deal following maybe like 187 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 6: Bill Walsh or Chuck Knowle. Was it a big like 188 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 6: back back in that time when those guys retired or 189 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 6: will let go however they lost, It was. 190 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 2: A big deal. When John Wooden was replaced. Adolph Rupp 191 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: was replaced by Joe B. Hall, so he was already 192 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: on his staff. Sometimes you get the guy who's on 193 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: the staff who then takes over, and then it's it's 194 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 2: not as jolting. But whoever would take over for Bill 195 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 2: Belichick whenever that is, that that'll be a bet. But 196 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 2: if he's coming in and the Patriots, let's say, haven't 197 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 2: gone to the playoffs in six years, so now you 198 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: get somebody coming in and you'll probably get a little 199 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 2: bit more of a landing strip there than you would 200 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 2: have if you're coming in and they just won a 201 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Replacing Andy Reid in Kansas City, that'll be 202 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 2: a big deal. 203 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, Pauline Chuck Noll by Marvin is a good comparison. 204 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 8: Chuck Noll, ever, remembers him dominant with the Steelers as 205 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 8: our head coach in the seventies and early eighties. But 206 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 8: Chuck Nole went. He missed six out of seven playoffs 207 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 8: to end his career with the Steelers. I'll bet you 208 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 8: they had a tough time, you know, nine and seven, 209 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 8: nine and seven, seven and nine. His last year ninety one, 210 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 8: Chuck Noll and they replacement of Bill Kauer and they 211 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 8: instantly went to eleven and five and a couple of 212 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 8: years later there in a Super Bowl. Yeah, that must 213 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 8: have been very awkward in Pittsburgh. Good with Chuck Noll, 214 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 8: a true legend. 215 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 2: I remember what was it Phil Bankston? Did he replace 216 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 2: Vince Lombardi or was it Dan Devine? But that was 217 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: a that was a tough transition, Yeah, Seedon. 218 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 3: If you think about the struggle of replace a legendary 219 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: head coach, Miami's still maybe just getting around to it now. 220 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 3: And they had Jimmy Johnson and Nick Saban in that 221 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 3: same list they have. You go down the list of 222 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 3: Miami Dolphins head coaches and they're still trying. 223 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 2: To figure out how to replace Don Shula. 224 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 8: Yeah, Paulin, can you imagine replacing Vince Lombardi in Green Bay? 225 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 8: He won the NFL Championship, then he wins the first 226 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 8: two Super Bowls, which weren't even called super Bowls at 227 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 8: the time. Then he leaves and you got to replace him. 228 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 8: He was Phil Bankston was the replacement. He was average, Yeah, 229 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 8: Dan Devine. Yeah, And they brought in Bart Starriers later. 230 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: Yes, but Lombardi went to be the GM of the 231 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 2: Washington Redskins, I think, and then he died soon after that. Yes, yes, Tom, I. 232 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 7: Knew they weren't the team that they once were at 233 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 7: the end. But I just remember the news when Tom 234 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 7: Landry was let go, like how do you let go 235 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 7: of Tom Landry? And ended up working out after a 236 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 7: couple years with Jimmy Johnson. But that's just one of 237 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 7: those names where how could that person ever be? 238 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 2: And you were bringing in a college coach to take 239 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 2: over for Tom Landry and Jerry Jones came in. First 240 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 2: thing he did was fired Tom Landry bringing in his 241 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 2: college buddy, and everybody it felt like Dallas was up 242 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 2: in arms like who is this guy who just bought 243 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 2: our team and he's bringing in a college coach And 244 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 2: that was the best thing that Jerry ever did. Well. 245 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 2: He bought the team and he brought in Jimmy Johnson. Yeah, 246 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 2: Marv for a legendary coach. 247 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 6: How would you go about maybe trying to make changes 248 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 6: at that spot? 249 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: So we're talking about New England, correct, I don't know. 250 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 2: I don't know how you do that. And here's another thing. 251 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 2: Does Belichick want to go out this way because you know, 252 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: after a certain amount of time and seasons you're going 253 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 2: to go I mean, I'm I'm taken away from my 254 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 2: legacy here. I don't want people to remember this part 255 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: of my career. But they're going to because they haven't 256 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 2: been good and it's not like I mean, they might 257 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: have a couple of wins this year year where you go, Okay, 258 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 2: that surprised me. But seven wins, maybe eight wins, yeah, Pauline. 259 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 8: Of course, now after having this conversation Belichick, he usually 260 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 8: will peel off five straight wins to shut us all up. 261 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 8: The Patriots have the Saints at home at the Raiders, 262 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 8: but then they host the Bills and at the Dolphins. 263 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 2: Hm is he month. 264 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 3: UFA and then even just after that Commanders doesn't seem 265 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 3: like a real walk in the park these days either. 266 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 6: Yes, I may have to push back a little bit 267 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 6: on people will remember this because Chuck no, I didn't 268 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 6: know he missed those. 269 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, but the NFL is different now. Back then, there 270 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 2: was no first daily shows, no, no, no, no, none 271 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 2: of that, and the NFL wasn't king back then. It 272 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: wasn't It was baseball. But I mean, it was a 273 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: big deal locally, but I don't know if nationally people 274 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: were like, oh my god, they're replacing Chuck Nole. I 275 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: don't remember that, but I wasn't in the business then. 276 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: But I remember when Bill Kawer. I was just getting 277 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: in the business and you're thinking, all right, now this 278 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 2: guy's a former linebacker and he's going to take over. 279 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 2: Didn't think much of it. Now you can't. It's hard 280 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 2: to have that seamless transition. Like Mike Tomlin took over 281 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: for Bill Kauer and they're basically they've had the same careers. 282 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 2: You know Tomlin's going to be a Hall of Fame coach. 283 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 2: But trying to find that right guy to come in 284 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: and then you don't miss anything, it's really hard to do. 285 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: And at some point Robert Kraft and his son and 286 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 2: Bill Belichick have to have one of those hard to 287 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,359 Speaker 2: heart conversations. But how important is it that Don Shula's 288 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 2: record is going to be there for Bill Belichick? And 289 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: do you keep him so he can be the all 290 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: time victory leader in NFL history. That's two more seasons. 291 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: He's seventeen wins away, so be this year, next year 292 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: and maybe you would get to that record. Whom yeah, 293 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 2: I marv oh oy. 294 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 6: They it's gonna be a long stretch in in Fottsborough. 295 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 2: I know, I know, all right, we'll talk some football. 296 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: Rick new heisavial join us coming up Josh in California. 297 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: Best and worst of the weekend? Josh, what do you 298 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 2: have for me? 299 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 9: Hey? How's it going? 300 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 7: Dan? 301 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 9: How you guys doing today? 302 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: Hey, Josh. 303 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 9: Best of the weekend is definitely my son. He's nineteen. 304 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 9: Came back from Sacramento to watch the rest of the 305 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 9: Liverpool Tottenham game and Tottenham pulled it out. That was amazing. 306 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 6: Uh. 307 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 9: Sunday though, the worst of the weekend. I'm wearing my 308 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 9: subject's nott real T shirt. And then my wife actually 309 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 9: went on the secondary market to get the Marvin Man's 310 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 9: shirt and she's a she's she's will in doubt. And 311 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 9: then she makes a comment that uh she he follows 312 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 9: Marvin on Instagram. 313 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 2: Whoam Like? 314 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 4: Whoa? 315 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: I thank you, Josh. Let me see if I can 316 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: probe a little bit here. Marvin's hands look bigger, by 317 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 2: the way on your wife's shirt than most people. What's 318 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: going on here? Marv? You know Josh's wife? 319 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 9: I do not? 320 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: Okay, no, right answer, yeah, right answer? Nice? Along, take 321 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: a break. Rick new Heisa will join us coming up 322 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: next here on the Dan Patrick Show. I mentioned King's 323 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: Hawaiian feels bad for Paulie if the Bears happen to 324 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 2: lose on Thursday night. They're like, well, maybe we get 325 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 2: him some sliders, and I said, no, We're not doing 326 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 2: King's Hawaiian just for Paulie. If he loses the bet 327 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: with the Bears on a Thursday night with the Commanders, 328 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 2: not gonna happen. Kings Hawaiian dot Com. If you need 329 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: recipe inspiration, go there. How about this ham and cheese sliders? 330 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 3: Yes, now, Paulie, you don't like, no, no, no, not you. 331 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 3: That sounds great though, but right now I would crust those. 332 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 2: I know. You'd have ham, thinly sliced Swiss cheese, some 333 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 2: Worcester shuret sauce, some mustard, some onions, kings Hawaiian originals. 334 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 2: Oh man, we might have those on Friday Thursday. And no, 335 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 2: because Paulie can't have them, there's no sympathy sliders. They 336 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: should have sympathy sliders. The recipe sympathy Slider. Go to 337 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 2: the bakery deli section of your local store, pick up 338 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 2: those sweet, fluffy, irresistible kings Hawaiian rules and enjoy. Thanks 339 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 2: for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. 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Felt like NBC 346 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 2: was either showing Travis Kelcey or Taylor Swift, or they 347 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: would go to a commercial and then it would be 348 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,719 Speaker 2: a Taylor Swift commercial and then followed by a Travis 349 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,719 Speaker 2: Kelcey commercial, and then at Patrick Mahomes won, and then 350 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 2: Jake from State Farm is there as well. It's like, okay, 351 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 2: I'm a little exhausted here, but it was weird. You're 352 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 2: kind of watching for Taylor Swift showing up with her 353 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 2: all of your friends, and then a football game actually 354 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 2: broke out, and it felt like it was in that order. 355 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 2: It's like, Oh, Taylor Swift's at the game, Aaron Rodgers 356 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 2: at the game. Oh, by the way, the Chiefs are 357 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: playing the Jets. And then all of a sudden, it 358 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 2: was like, oh, now we got a real football game here. 359 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, Mark, Yeah, I was enjoying it. It felt like 360 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 6: the start of a musical. Taylor's Coming, Taylor's Coming, Taylor's coming, 361 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 6: and everyone starts, you know, I think Taylor's coming. 362 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you were there, I was, yeah, yes, yes. 363 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 8: On Football Night in America right before the game, they 364 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 8: showed the celebrities Hugh Jackman and Taylor Swift going through security. 365 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 8: People are commenting why would they make famous people go 366 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 8: through security? Like, if you're what level of fame would 367 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 8: you have to skip the security down? But they made 368 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 8: everyone take their phones out, do the little thing. People 369 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 8: don't skip the line at security. But people were reacting, 370 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 8: what do you think she's gonna sneak something in? Everyone 371 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 8: knows who she is. You don't get that kind of 372 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 8: special treatment. I don't think. 373 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how that works. First of all, 374 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 2: howd Wolverine get through security? Knife blades exactly? Yeah, that'd 375 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 2: be great if he had his blades on. Is he's 376 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 2: going through? I'm sorry, you're not gonna be able to 377 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 2: come through Wolverine. Wolverine, Josh and fort Wayne You there, Josh, yes, sir? 378 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 5: How you doing this? 379 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 2: One of dam great? Josh. 380 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 5: Hey got a comment about the officiating last night. First, 381 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 5: if I want to give a shout out to my daughter, 382 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 5: she had a birthday last week she turned six. My 383 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 5: kids you as the guy who called the girl Fugley 384 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 5: in the first Grown Ups movie, so they they like 385 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 5: watching U on Peacock as well. 386 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 2: That was just a character. That was just I was 387 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 2: playing a character when I said that. Just that's not 388 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: my nature. I just want to let you know. 389 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 5: But yeah, just the call last night on soft Gardener 390 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 5: that basically just ruined the game. It's it was just 391 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 5: really I mean, I like the Chiefs. My wife is 392 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 5: a huge Mahomes fan, and so I mean I don't 393 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 5: mind that the Chiefs won, But in a situation like that, 394 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 5: I mean, it just it just ruins the game. There 395 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 5: were many more blatant holding calls that were not called 396 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 5: last night, and just to call that in that situation, 397 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 5: it's it's just terrible. 398 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: It Well, there was one on the Mahomes Scramble that 399 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 2: was really obvious to us. It was right there bottom 400 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 2: of the screen and the official was not in position 401 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 2: to see that. That's where I don't know. If you 402 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 2: get help in a situation like you don't want to 403 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 2: be embarrassed. It's like officials don't want to embarrass another official, 404 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: but you want to get the call right. Your goal 405 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 2: is to get the call right, and that was, you know, 406 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 2: an obvious, egregious holding call. And it just seems sometimes 407 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 2: random where it's like, uh, all right, I haven't I 408 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 2: haven't called holding in a while, holding on who I 409 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 2: don't know one of you guys. 410 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, Marv in the sauce hold, he does that, or 411 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 6: every corner does that every single play. It wasn't anything 412 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 6: like so outlandish where you could see the jersey being pulled. 413 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, pulling. 414 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 8: It seems like, and I don't know if this is 415 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 8: how new this is. It seems like some smart defensive 416 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 8: linemen are learning how to sell it. And even in 417 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 8: the play where the defensive lineman last night was getting 418 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 8: held on the uh on that play for Zach Wilson, 419 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 8: you know he was selling. He was moving his arms 420 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 8: away and saying I can't get loose, I can't get loose, 421 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 8: and he's waving at the rep in the moment. A 422 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 8: lot of guys are doing that. 423 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was on the Mahomes run and you just 424 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: had a Jets defense who was And it's not like 425 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 2: the offensive lineman held him just long enough. He kept 426 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 2: holding him and I thought, you're going to let that happen. 427 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 2: I mean, it was a big play for ma Holmes, 428 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: but he was certainly helped out by how they were 429 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 2: holding on to the defensive player. Yeah, they should just 430 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 2: let them hold. Everybody gets to hold. 431 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 3: No, that especially lineman should be allowed to hold. That's 432 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 3: part of the battle is those dudes holding the stuff 433 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 3: with like the Sauce Gardner one. 434 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 2: I'm not really sure. 435 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 3: That that type of hold where it's a quarter second 436 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 3: of a grab, happens on ninety nine percent of every 437 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 3: route that's run this year. 438 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 2: But if I let we already let the offensive well, 439 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 2: offense get away with everything, every rule is catered to them. 440 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: Now I'm going to let them just hold, blanket hold, 441 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 2: but I'm not going to give the defense anything. It 442 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 2: seems little. 443 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 3: If it's something that you can call on every single play, 444 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 3: then either never call it or always call it. Call 445 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,719 Speaker 3: it throw seventeen flags a play. But if your alignment 446 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 3: you know they're not going to call it all the time. 447 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 3: It's like the Seattle Seahawks Legion of Boom then interfered 448 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 3: on every play the defensive backs because they knew you 449 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 3: weren't going to call it. You might call it occasionally, 450 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 3: but you're going to get it in your benefit more 451 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 3: often than not. 452 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mark also Sauce Gardner. 453 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 6: I thought he would get a little more respect to 454 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 6: it because he's a top notch in a corner in 455 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 6: the league. 456 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 4: You know. 457 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 2: Rick Neuheizel, former college coach at UCLA and Washington and Colorado, 458 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 2: now works for CBS. He joins us on the program. 459 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: Did we learn more about USC or Colorado this past weekend? 460 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 5: Oh? 461 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: I think we learn more about USC H. Listen, Alex 462 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 1: Grinch has been doing this for a long time with 463 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: kind of similar results. They just don't tackle well. And 464 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: until they tackle well, I don't know that they can 465 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: be uh the favorite in the Pac twelve. They're certainly 466 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: accomplished on offense. Caleb Williams is magnificent and does great 467 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: things almost every time out. But that defense is showing 468 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: itself to be vulnerable. Okay, but explain that you can't tackle. 469 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: Can you change that during the course of a season? Well, 470 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,719 Speaker 1: I would go back to how they practice. I just 471 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: you know, everybody's trying to keep everybody healthy, and we 472 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: understand that. But somehow, some way, the tackling in that 473 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: particular practice, and if you go back and watch practice 474 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,959 Speaker 1: film of the Pete Carroll days, it was scrimmage almost 475 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: every day. I mean they would just go at it. 476 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: That isn't happening in this particular deal. Otherwise you'd see 477 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: different results. What do you see with Caleb Williams. I 478 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: see Patrick Mahomes. I see a guy that just basically 479 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: understands certainly the play called, but then loves to play 480 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: the play that he creates by extension. When he gets 481 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: out and just moves a out and kind of has 482 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: a sixth sense of where these guys are going to 483 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: end up being and can throw them open. 484 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 2: He's magnificent. Dion sun Shador, it feels like there's a 485 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 2: coming out party. At least there was milk. Hiper goes, Oh, 486 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 2: you know he's going to be a first round draft pick. 487 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 2: Is he on the level with Caleb Williams. He's close. 488 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: He's been terrific and his ability to make every platform 489 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: throw has been really fun to watch as well, going 490 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: to his left, going to his right. The changing trajectories 491 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: despite arm angles. Go back to that TCU game, that 492 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: fourth down play where a guy got in his face 493 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: and he had to basically drop one over the top 494 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: to the kid in the flat. That was a fantastic 495 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 1: play and something you can't script. He just has it, 496 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: so he's right there. 497 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 2: How would you grade Colorado's season so far off the charts? 498 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: I think Rick George, the athletic director at Colorado, has 499 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: to going to have to have surgery to get the 500 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: smile off his face. I can only imagine what his 501 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: face looked like when he was telling the student body 502 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: not to storm the field. You know, he's going, you know, 503 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: fingers crossed over here on his left hand as he's 504 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: writing it with his right. Listen, it has been magnificent 505 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: the amount of attention that the program has gotten and 506 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: the amount of eyeballs that have sitting there and watched 507 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,959 Speaker 1: the campus in Boulder, whether it be on you know, 508 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: Big Noon or game day. That is invaluable for the 509 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: brand for recruiting purposes. Listen, getting a phone call from 510 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: Prime would be awesome as a kid, but watching that 511 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: you want to be a part of it, and Colorado 512 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: is going to reap unbelievable benefit in the recruiting world 513 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: because of it. 514 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 2: We're talking to Rick new Heisl, CBS Sports college football analyst, 515 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 2: former college head coach, who are the great teams in 516 00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 2: college football this year? I think Texas is. 517 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: On the verge of being a great team, which is 518 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 1: why this Texas Oklahoma game this week is really interesting. 519 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: You know, quietly, we're talking about lots of quarterbacks. You 520 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: just mentioned a couple Caleb Williams and Shador Sanders, Bo Nicks, 521 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: Michael Pennix out there in the West Coast having monster years. 522 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: This kid, Dylan Gabriel is having a big time season, 523 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: quietly because the conversation has been the transformation of their defense. 524 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: He's a seventy five percent passer. I think he's got 525 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: you know, something like fourteen touchdown passes against just two picks. 526 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: I mean, he's playing magnificently over three hundred yards a game. 527 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: So this game with him and Quinn Ewers is going 528 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: to be one to behold. 529 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 2: What do you make of arch Manning? 530 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: He's you know, Biden is time. He has the luxury 531 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 1: of a family that understands patients. He has the luxury 532 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 1: of a family that needs nothing in the way of attention. 533 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: They just are going to wait their turn. I think 534 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 1: Quinn Viewers is going to vault. He was my pick 535 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: to win the Heisman. He's going to have some stages 536 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 1: here coming up. Texas fans are craving this kind of attention. 537 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: This is going to be fun. But Arch Manning is 538 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: sitting there watching this all develop and while Colorado's going 539 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: to reap a bunch of recruits, so too well, Texas 540 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 1: As sarcus got things going. 541 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 2: Has college football moved up to Georgia's level in Alabama's 542 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 2: level or have they dipped down a little bit? 543 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit of both, you know, Georgia, at first, 544 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: I believed it was Georgia just kind of going through 545 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: the doldrums of preseason. You know, nobody really of note 546 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: to play, nobody really get fired up, so many good 547 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: players trying to make sure everybody was happy getting their 548 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: chances to play. But now that they've kind of focused 549 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: on brock Boers, their back going again. I thought it 550 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: was crazy that Auburn didn't have some planned to bracket him, 551 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: because Hugh Freeze really had a chance in that game. 552 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: But in the two SEC games, they've been behind in 553 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: both halftime. At the South Carolina game they were sitting 554 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: there down fourteen three, and then this game seventeen ten. 555 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: In the second half, it was they've come back down 556 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: to earth, which makes the SEC really fun. 557 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 2: To watch right now, go back when you were coaching, 558 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 2: did you coach against a player that was just unstoppable, 559 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 2: like you didn't have an answer whether it was offense 560 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 2: or defense. 561 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: Ricky Williams Ricky Williams at Texas when I was at 562 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: Colorado was a handful. I mean, goodness, gracious was he was? 563 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: He fantastic. I remember John Elway at Stanford. You know 564 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: that was one of my playing days. We couldn't we 565 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: beat them thirty eight thirty five and just we're so 566 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: thankful that the clock ran out. 567 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 2: You just couldn't stop Elway when he got going. 568 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: So, yeah, I've been on I've been on some stadiums 569 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: where it looked that way. 570 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 2: I noticed you slipped it in that you beat Lway. Yeah, 571 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 2: noticed it. 572 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: Well, it wasn't me, it was Tom Ramsey had. 573 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 2: A good view from the side ball. 574 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: The clipboard, Yeah, I had a clipboard in that one. 575 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 2: Down describe in college. 576 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: He's John Wayne. He's going to come in and save 577 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: the townspeople. You know, he's he's gonna he rides into 578 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: town and he just had that swashbuckling feel about him 579 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: and such a big arm that he'd break contain. He 580 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: had that patented, you know, give you the front shoulder 581 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 1: and then back out the other way and then get 582 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 1: all the way over to the left side of the 583 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: field and throw back to some Stanford you know, walk 584 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: on receiver over on the ou side, and you're going, 585 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: how did he do that? But as far as he 586 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: but ultimately his chief weapon was he believed that something 587 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: good was going to happen at the end of the game. 588 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 2: Compare his ability Mahomes, Rogers, Elway, anybody else you want 589 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 2: to throw in there, just the ability to play quarterback. 590 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: They have taken it to the level where they manipulate you. 591 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: They're not dealing with manipulation. They manipulate you. They get 592 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: to a place where they know it exactly what's going 593 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: on on the opposite side of the ball. So they 594 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: have what they want in the pre snap. But they 595 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: have such unique confidence that if it's not good, they'll 596 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: sit and wait for their little pocket or seam in 597 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: the pocket to open up, and then they'll escape to 598 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: a spot which now creates the second play in their 599 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: little weaponry, which is the extended play. And now they 600 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: just start firing darts at you and they're just hold 601 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:27,719 Speaker 1: on for dear life. 602 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 2: I'n't spoken to you since the PAC twelve was decimated. 603 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: Your thoughts on the barrier. 604 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: I've been looking for the candle in the vigil, you 605 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: know on your set there. 606 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sad. 607 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: We're down to the pack too, and I think everybody 608 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: who's got any soul at all is pulling hard for 609 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: both Oregon State and Washington State to get everything, to 610 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: get the get in kaboodle, to just keep all the assets, 611 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: and to find some way to incorporate with the current mountain. 612 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: And I love the idea that they're trying to bring 613 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: this relegation and promotion idea from European Soccer, because that, 614 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: to me, is the way to save the rest of 615 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: college football. If we can find a way to get 616 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: a group of five to have a way to get 617 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: promoted to the Power five in the future of this 618 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: super too that we're entering, I think that would be 619 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,959 Speaker 1: wonderful for the game. It would put a spotlight on 620 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: more players and keep more scholarships, which I think is 621 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: the end goal. Good to talk to you as always, 622 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: Thank you, Bun my Man Real DP Rick News New Heisel. 623 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: How long ago was it that I brought up relegation 624 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: for college football to help some of these other teams 625 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: that wouldn't be in the top forty or fifty. It's 626 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: been a few years where I floated the idea. 627 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 8: Probably twenty eighteen nineteen. 628 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I had spoken to somebody with college football 629 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 2: and I broached the topic with this person and I said, 630 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 2: what about relegation? And he said, well, how would you 631 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 2: do it? I said, it'd be like the Premier League 632 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 2: and you would have let's say North Dakota you know, 633 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 2: was going to be on the CUSP. North Dakota State 634 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 2: was going to be on the CUSP, but they just 635 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 2: they won the national title. And if you win the 636 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 2: national title, could you get relegated? Would you have somebody 637 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 2: drop out? And I mean, I haven't fully thought it out, 638 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 2: but I just thought, could we add something more where 639 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 2: you'd have the top part of college football celebrating the 640 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 2: teams making the playoffs and a national champion, and then 641 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 2: the drama at the bottom where a couple of schools 642 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 2: could drop out and some other schools. I mean, imagine 643 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 2: that flow of emotion in the last weekend of the 644 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 2: regular season. I think it would be really, really entertaining. 645 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, Paul, and you could probably increase the Lord Division 646 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 8: the FCS to maybe let's say it was one hundred 647 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 8: and fifty teams or something like that, and the upper division, 648 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 8: like you said before, it's fifty or sixty the heavyweights, 649 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 8: teams that can afford it, and then it makes that 650 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 8: whole second division not feel second division anymore. I'd be 651 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 8: quite entertaining to see who goes up and down. 652 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 2: But I don't know how you would decide who got relegated. 653 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 2: I know how I could promote you because if let's 654 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,919 Speaker 2: say the two teams that made the National Championship Game, 655 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 2: or let's say the final four, they got promoted, and 656 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 2: then you had four schools get dropped out of Division one. Yeah. 657 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 3: See, the big struggle that you're going to face is travel, 658 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 3: I think, because if you have, say, you know, Boise 659 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 3: State is sort of out alone on an island, but 660 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 3: they win their way into the same division. We'll call 661 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 3: it as you know, Alabama, Auburn, et cetera. Right, Clemson say, 662 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 3: you're going to have to almost like regional Yeah, you're 663 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 3: going to have to regionalize it, which ironically is I 664 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 3: think the way it was intended to be at the 665 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 3: Southeastern Conference, etc. You're gonna have to regionalize it more 666 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 3: and then also make it competitively balanced into different levels. 667 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 2: Well, that's the tricky part is making it competitively balanced, 668 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 2: because the NFL is regionally structured where you're playing AFC 669 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 2: South or AFC North and you're kind of in the 670 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 2: same area. But if you get let's say North Dakota 671 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 2: State gets you know, promoted, do they get promoted in 672 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 2: the division that has somebody who's in their quadrant or 673 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 2: something like that. Yes? 674 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 3: See, Well, I think if you're looking at the European 675 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 3: model of soccer, right, and okay, Lowtontown is promoted, nobody 676 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 3: really expects them to beat Arsenal and Manchester City. Everybody 677 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 3: knows that the probably it's a real uphill battle, just 678 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 3: based financially and everything. Nobody really minds that because then 679 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,479 Speaker 3: you have Manchester City and Arsenal in them. They also 680 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 3: have now Champions League to go play for. Right, So 681 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 3: you're sort of looking at creating a tournament, a college 682 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 3: football tournament that the best teams get to play in 683 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 3: from those regions. So it would be USC and even 684 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 3: though USC might get to beat up on lesser teams, 685 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 3: it might be a little more unfair for the SEC. 686 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 3: But you know, as long as you're looking at that 687 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 3: national tournament, then I think everything would balance out to 688 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 3: some degree. 689 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 2: Who would have gotten relegated last year? 690 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 8: Oh, you're putting us on the spot here. If you 691 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 8: look at a couple different websites of the college football 692 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 8: rankings all one hundred and twenty five teams last year, 693 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 8: I found two different places said you Mass would have 694 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 8: been the worst team. They were one and eleven last 695 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 8: year and they got lucky on that one I'm hearing, 696 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 8: and they were one and eleven the season before. So 697 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 8: U Mass Football, that'd be a shot to. 698 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 3: Be relegantd Yeah, it gets dicey too when you start 699 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 3: looking at say the top twenty five teams. Say, even 700 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 3: if you only kept the top twenty, you could be 701 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 3: looking at let's see, this is twenty twenty two, rank 702 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 3: number twenty five to. 703 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 2: End the season? Is Texas? Okay, so would they drop out? Texas? 704 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 3: Fresno State, South Carolina, pit UCLA, Mississippi State is twenty. 705 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 2: No, You're gonna have forty schools, maybe fifty schools that 706 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 2: would be involved in the power conferences. That would be 707 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 2: your structure, And. 708 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 3: That gets to it would be crazy to think that 709 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 3: Texas would be down this year. And then, yeah, you 710 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 3: couldn't do that considering how good they were. No, if 711 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 3: you're ranked, you're not getting relegated. But it's where you're ranked. 712 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 2: Let's say you get to be forty nine or fifty 713 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 2: and you lose that last weekend, then you could get relegated. 714 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 2: Yeah s or uh paulin I went. 715 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 8: Back to the Power five conferences. The worst Power five 716 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 8: team last year was Northwestern at one and eleven. Okay, 717 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 8: so they would have been if you look at powerfied, 718 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:42,280 Speaker 8: they could have been the relegation. 719 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 2: Nobody would have a problem with that. 720 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 8: They got regard for that headline. 721 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 2: All the other headlines they've gotten. Wait, what happened? We 722 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 2: got relegated? Oh? Good, thought it was something worse than that. 723 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,280 Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break, class call for phone calls. 724 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 2: What we learn, what's in store tomorrow. Thanks for listening 725 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 2: to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch 726 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 2: us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six 727 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 2: to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can 728 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 2: find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream 729 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,080 Speaker 2: us live on the Peacock app. 730 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 10: Hey, this is Tom Berducci from Fox Sports, MLB Network 731 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 10: and Sports Illustrated and. 732 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:19,720 Speaker 2: I'm Joe Madden. 733 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 4: We're going to be around to talk a little bit 734 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 4: about managerial decisions and what may have occurred to the 735 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 4: dugout maybe in the nineteen eighties. 736 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 10: It's the Book of Joe podcast. I can't wait for this, Joe. 737 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 10: We're going to dive into what goes on in the 738 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,720 Speaker 10: dugout and behind the scenes in Major League. 739 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,959 Speaker 2: Baseball, cars, wind whatever else we want to talk about. 740 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 10: Yeah, well, there are no boundaries, right. Listen to the 741 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 10: Book of Joe podcast on the iHeartRadio app, on Apple 742 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 10: Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. 743 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 2: Last call for phone calls, what we learn, what's in 744 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 2: store tomorrow. I did not see this last night. I 745 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:55,280 Speaker 2: just have heard about it. Rodney Harrison was interviewing Chris 746 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 2: Jones on the Postgame Show on NBC and Peacock and 747 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 2: it are we picking it up? With the first question 748 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 2: that he asked, He's talking about Zack Wilson. Chris Jones 749 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 2: comes up, the Kansas City Chiefs defensive lineman, and then 750 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 2: this ensues. So was Zach better tonight than what you anticipated? 751 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 2: He would be watching him on tape, and you could 752 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 2: be honest. 753 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 11: Honestly, if a man completely honest, we knew it was 754 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,719 Speaker 11: gonna be a better He's continue to get better at 755 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,240 Speaker 11: weekend and week out, and he's continued to lead weekend 756 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 11: and week out. 757 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 6: But watching that tape, man, you gotta look at this 758 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 6: dude to say, oh, he is garbage, like we should 759 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 6: really tearrible apart. 760 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 11: Like I said that Wilson is special. 761 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,439 Speaker 2: Man, you just got to give the guy time. 762 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 5: You know what wait wait, wait. 763 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 11: Wait wait did you say Zach Wilson is special? 764 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he had a special night, But I 765 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 6: don't think he's special. 766 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 11: I've got to prove that over you're special, because you've 767 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,720 Speaker 11: proved it over a course, he's not special. 768 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, Chris, I'm all right. I understand Rodney 769 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 2: giving his opinion, but you're leading the witness. You're you're 770 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 2: pushing too hard. Zack will played well. Whether you believe 771 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 2: that sustainable, that can be up for debate. But Chris 772 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 2: Jones was being polite, Rodney was pushing him. Rodney was 773 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,800 Speaker 2: already trying to get something out of him. He wanted 774 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 2: him to say what Rodney was saying. So then you 775 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 2: make a headline. You know you're creating content. Chris Jones 776 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 2: says that Jack Wilson's garbage. Well, he said anything but that, 777 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 2: and as a result, social media is roughing up Rodney today. 778 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 2: He can have his opinion, but you shouldn't be leading him. 779 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 2: If Jack Collinsworth wants to push Chris Jones a little 780 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 2: bit to get an answer, fine, I don't care what 781 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 2: Zack Collinsworth's opinion is. But if he's trying to get 782 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 2: that out of Chris Jones, great, Rodney is trying to 783 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 2: get that out of him, and it feels like he's 784 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 2: piling on Zack Wilson. And this is after a game 785 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 2: that Zack Wilson played as well, if not better than 786 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. So the timing is bad and it feels 787 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 2: like he's trying to bully Chris Jones into saying, Hey, 788 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 2: go ahead, you throw out the word garbage. That's tough. 789 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 2: I mean if you want to say, oh, man, come on, 790 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 2: you haven't seen anything that you think he's good, but garbage, 791 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 2: now that's the problem there, Yes, Marv. 792 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 6: And this is after he played in an outstanding game too. 793 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 2: He played well, it's if this was a game that 794 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 2: they lost, and he looked terrible. Maybe you go down 795 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 2: that road, but to keep going down that road, and 796 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 2: you already know what Chris Jones is gonna He's already 797 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 2: let you know he's not going there. He might feel 798 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 2: that way, you know, Hey, to be honest, you can 799 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 2: be honest with me. Okay, as if to say, I 800 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 2: know what you want to say, but I want you 801 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 2: to say what I just said. Man, you're not being 802 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 2: fair to sackles. This day in sports history, Paul just 803 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 2: a couple Dan. 804 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,760 Speaker 8: Nineteen oh eight, Eddie Joss of the Cleveland Indians pitched 805 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 8: the fourth perfect game in Major League Baseball history. Here's one. 806 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 8: Nineteen twenty, your Cincinnati Reds and the Pittsburgh Pirates played 807 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,399 Speaker 8: the only tripleheader in baseball history. The Reds won two 808 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 8: of the three games. Let's bring that back hole. 809 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 2: Header noon to start at noon. If they only charge 810 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 2: us for one ticket, that'd be great. Shorter games on 811 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 2: this day. Nineteen seventy four, Hank Aaron did this in 812 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 2: his final at bat as a member of the Atlanta Braves. 813 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 2: If you said hit a home run, you'd be correct. 814 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 2: Come on, I loved Tank care Um. Let's see final results. 815 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 2: Of the poll question. 816 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 3: See Dan, we got a few of them working today. 817 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 3: But the best loss of the weekend right now. The 818 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 3: Jets absolutely had the best loss of the weekend. Overwhelming results. 819 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,359 Speaker 3: Whose futur do you like more? Another loss for the Bears. Unfortunately, 820 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 3: that's seventy five percent of the audience. 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