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Speaker 6: College football Week one is in the books a lot

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Speaker 6: to react to. We'll do so with Mike Golok Senior

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Speaker 6: coming up in just a minute, and plus the upset

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Speaker 6: of the weekend Mikey, do you love when we have

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Speaker 6: upsets like this? When you have a school like Montana

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Speaker 6: who was playing Washington, a power five school, and Montana

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Speaker 6: springs the upset like it was Appleachian State over Michigan

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Speaker 6: many many years ago. Do you love what that happens

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Speaker 6: in college football? Because me, for me, Mike, Alabama has

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Speaker 6: completely stolen the sport from everyone else. Okay, like we

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Speaker 6: should already crown them as national champions and their B

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Speaker 6: team should be the runner up.

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 6: So I am wondering here, in the absence of having

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Speaker 5: What do we look for?

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Speaker 6: We look for feel good stories, We look for upsets,

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Speaker 6: and Montana gave us that over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: I loved it as long as I got money on it.

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Speaker 4: I wanted.

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Speaker 5: You had Montana money line. Don't tell me you did

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Speaker 3: No, I didn't touch that game. I didn't touch that.

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Speaker 7: Game, okay, but you wish you had about to have

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Speaker 7: the money line I had Washington.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell the coach the fuck.

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Speaker 6: Off, I'm not gonna do that.

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Speaker 5: I might do that, I'm definitely not gonna do that.

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Speaker 6: If Golic wasn't here, I do it, but Golick's here,

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Speaker 5: Let's get to Golick at the coach dupotomy.

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Speaker 4: Coach. I mean, listen, what a I mean, what a win. Listen,

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Speaker 4: You've been doing this a long time, but you're get

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Speaker 4: a win like this first forgetting you How about the

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Speaker 4: players just kind of what their reaction was to the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess i'd start with you know, you talk

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Speaker 3: They've got good coaches, they had good players. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it was a good win for us, and our guys

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Speaker 4: You could do along those lines. If it's one of

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Speaker 4: that game? So how'd you win? The game.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, we we try to espouse that we're

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Speaker 3: you know, Don James ironically told me when I was

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Speaker 4: Nineteen twenty right, nineteen. Still last time they beat him

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I worked there, so I mean, I'm

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Speaker 3: And you know what's funny is is I really believe,

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Speaker 4: Okay, so you look at the game and the emotion.

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Speaker 4: So I'd like to know what you were saying to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, I told them at halftime thought

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Speaker 5: When did you guys stop celebrating? Have you guys stopped something?

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Speaker 3: Well, we needed to.

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Speaker 4: Another game.

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Speaker 3: We didn't really want to, so we celebrated for for

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you, Stu, I can't tell you how

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Speaker 4: true that is. I've never got yelled at more in

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Speaker 6: Wait, but I want to I'm interested, coach, how did

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Speaker 3: And we tell you know me, I did my best

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Speaker 3: you know, Michael appreciate this. I'm gonna we have a

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you why I appreciate that because that

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Speaker 4: it was nice. And I know you have another out

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Speaker 3: You had to give up only seven and shut them

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Speaker 3: They play like you're supposed to play. They get off

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Speaker 6: O do you you have done a lot of winning

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Speaker 6: over your career. I'm wondering, is that the biggest win

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Speaker 3: You know, I think it is. There have been a

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Speaker 3: twenty about twenty four point underdogs in nineteen ninety. That

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Speaker 6: After a win like that, like coaches have told me,

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Speaker 6: after a win like that, okay, you get a couple

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Speaker 6: lot of texts. But I'm wondering of the text of

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Speaker 6: the text you receive, which text surprised you the most.

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Speaker 6: Did you get a text from someone where you were like,

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Speaker 6: oh my god, like this win meant so much.

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Speaker 5: I got a text from Blank. Was there something like that?

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Speaker 3: You know, there was a there was a con like

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Speaker 3: I said, literally maybe thousand, but it was. It was

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Speaker 4: And that's the amazing thing is you're got to win

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Speaker 6: But Mike, Mike golick I think for this season and

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's probably a failing And I don't

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Speaker 6: Coach you you had a great first in at Montana.

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Speaker 3: Some but you know, like we all do, we weave

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Speaker 3: So that was fine. We met a lot of great

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a I'm a real believer in routine. So

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Speaker 6: Mike, it's a great question because I equate it to like,

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Speaker 5: It's hard to go. Yeah, it's super hard.

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Speaker 6: Congratulations coach on the best postgame celebration in the history

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Speaker 3: Well, I hope it was up there. I don't know

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Speaker 4: You always find out a whole lot about people in

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Speaker 3: When the old when the old dude gets some adrenaline

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Speaker 4: Gotta love it. What a what a moment, great moment

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Speaker 6: Yeah, what it was a great moment, Mike, there was.

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Speaker 3: Well, I can't tell you how much I appreciate you

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Speaker 4: I can't tell you what he said is so true

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Speaker 4: leave her be, But it will be so different when

437
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 4: you're not coaching now and you're just sitting in the stands.

438
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 4: Wait till I can't wait to hear you explain to

439
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 4: me how you felt, because it is one of the

440
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 4: most helpless feelings in the world when you've done all

441
00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,639
Speaker 4: you can. Now you coach them. I coached my kids

442
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 4: and then you just you're out there and they're doing

443
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,160
Speaker 4: their thing, you know, and and there's not a damn

444
00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 4: thing you can do about it anymore.

445
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 6: I haven't experienced it yet, because you're right, I've been coaching,

446
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,120
Speaker 6: and coaching has really helped me get through that where

447
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 6: I'm not just fixated on what my child is doing

448
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 6: out of the field. I have to I'm responsible for

449
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 6: the entire team. So it helped. It helped get me through.

450
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 6: And you're right.

451
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 5: I'm nervous about this part, Mike.

452
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 6: I am handing her off to the Bill Belichick you,

453
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 6: and yet I'm still gonna try.

454
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:39,679
Speaker 4: You. Do not be that guy, Stu, Please do not

455
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,880
Speaker 4: be that guy, because there are plenty of guys that

456
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,439
Speaker 4: are that guy, and they get ripped all the time,

457
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 4: and I will come on here and destroy you.

458
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 5: If you're that guy, Okay, then I won't do it.

459
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 5: But are you mikey A?

460
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 4: Are you like?

461
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 5: We know the goalks pretty well at this point.

462
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 6: You don't think Mike Senior was picking apart Mike Junior's line.

463
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 4: Here's what I did when they got I coached them

464
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 4: all in the Little League. When they got to high school,

465
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 4: I sat in the stands and I kept my mouth shut.

466
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 4: I had him in the summer. I worked Mike and

467
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,880
Speaker 4: Jakin the summer, did drills with him, and after their

468
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 4: high school games we did film them, and the next

469
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 4: day we did go down to the basement and watch tape.

470
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 4: But when they were at school around the other coaches,

471
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 4: I didn't say a word unless occasionally the coach asked

472
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 4: me to chime in on something and I did. Other

473
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,919
Speaker 4: than that, I didn't say a word. So do not

474
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,199
Speaker 4: butt into it, stude, do not butt in.

475
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Speaker 3: See I picture you.

476
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 2: I picture you watching the case, wagging a picture you

477
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 2: just got reprimanded by Daddy Golan. But I picture you

478
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 2: holding all that in and waiting for Mike Junior to

479
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 2: make like a snide comment, like, Dad, you were supposed

480
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 2: to go the other way.

481
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 4: Oh like your pass protection.

482
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Speaker 2: You know, I picture you like you just kind of

483
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 2: throwing things out of him, mate, just to kind of knock.

484
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Speaker 3: Him off a pedestal.

485
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 4: Oh did it to both of them? They knew it. Listen,

486
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 4: they knew every Sunday I sat her. It was a

487
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 4: game every Sunday they were for in high school. This

488
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 4: is high school, college, nothing high school. They were coming

489
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 4: downstairs and we were going over the tape, and they

490
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 4: knew it. They knew I was going to point shit out.

491
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,360
Speaker 4: I mean, nobody plays a perfect game, so you got

492
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 4: to point it out.

493
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Speaker 6: Right, Mikey Yeah, you have me thinking now, Yes, I'll

494
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 6: do it in a very passive aggressive way, liked, hey Dad,

495
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 6: you missed the turn there.

496
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 5: Oh the same way you missed that wide open girl.

497
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Speaker 4: Wait so going?

498
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Speaker 5: No, we is going.

499
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 4: You're right.

500
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Speaker 6: I am excited to hand her off to the Northwestern

501
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 6: coaching staff, and I'm excited for my daughter to finally

502
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 6: hear a different voice than my voice. But can I

503
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 6: still yell at rend No?

504
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 4: I sit there and just enjoy the fact that all

505
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,719
Speaker 4: your daughter's hard work paid off and she's at one

506
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 4: of the best programs at the country. You as much

507
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 4: as I hit tune, you had a lot to do

508
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 4: with that. So just now it's a time just sit

509
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 4: back and enjoy it. Man, Let her do her thing, stude.

510
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 4: Do you have a go to thing you yell at

511
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 4: the rev? Do you have like that one thing that

512
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 4: you save in your back pocket and that you can't

513
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 4: wait to throw it a ref? Yeah? The rules.

514
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 6: God, it's your job. Know the rules like that's it.

515
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 6: Just know the rules. It's the bare minimums. Just know

516
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 6: the rules. Okay, Mike, I can't say that. I can't

517
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 6: say know the rules. No, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

518
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 4: The Northwestern coaches will do that because you know what,

519
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 4: the Northwestern coaches they know the rules. The rest know

520
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 4: the rules, and sometimes they don't do it well. They'll

521
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 4: talk to the refs about it, not you.

522
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 6: But what if the ref's closer to me than they

523
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 6: are to the north Northwestern coaches will still see it

524
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 6: and they'll take care of guy.

525
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 4: Man. Abby is going to have such a tough time

526
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 4: with you. She is going to beat the shit out

527
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Speaker 4: of you.

528
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Speaker 5: Oh my god, you're gonna Mike here here, here's what

529
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 5: I propose to you.

530
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 6: Can I take you to the games and you like,

531
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Speaker 6: you'll be my mouthpiece.

532
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what to yell, and you yell. Okay.

533
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 4: No, I am not yelling at any coaches or any refs.

534
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 4: I'm gonna sit there and enjoy the game.

535
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 5: But I'm bout my daughter. I'm giving you permissions home.

536
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 5: You can do that.

537
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 4: Like, this is gonna be really what I fear, because

538
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 4: I fear you after the game, because you're gonna have

539
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 4: so much pent up that after the game, you're just

540
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 4: not going to be able to help yourself. She's gonna

541
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,719
Speaker 4: be ready to move on and go out for that

542
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 4: night and go be social. You're gonna want to sit

543
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 4: there and break the game down with her.

544
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 5: Oh God, whether she's there or not, I'm doing it anyway.

545
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 6: It's just go yell at Double Partners. Wow, Oh my god,

546
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 6: this is gonna be tricky for me. All right, Michael,

547
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 6: you ready for this week's episode. This week's edition of Goso,

548
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 6: which is a game we put together. We used to

549
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 6: play it with Michael Junior. It was called Gojo. Really,

550
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 6: what it is is it allows me to lob questions

551
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 6: to you, the football expert, and allows me to sit

552
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 6: back and listen to you and be lazier than I

553
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 6: already am.

554
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 5: Are you ready for her?

555
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 4: I'm ready for a segment that you'd be called Stu's

556
00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 4: way out of work is what it should be?

557
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,719
Speaker 5: Okay, all right?

558
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 6: Here we go with a win over LSU to get

559
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 6: the Bruids to two and zero. Are Chip Kelly and

560
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 6: the UCLA Brewins back go?

561
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Speaker 4: So you know what, I don't know if I'm gonna

562
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 4: sit there and say they're all the way back, But

563
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 4: considering what Chip Kelly has done there and considering he

564
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 4: came on our podcast, which we're good luck for, they

565
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 4: are certainly heading in the direction that he finally wants

566
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 4: to go. Now been there a few years, this is

567
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 4: time for your recruits to start kicking in and getting

568
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 4: the job done. And they've looked good. So I'm not

569
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 4: gonna sit there because this is something we used to

570
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 4: do with Texas all the time. Oh it was Texas back.

571
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 4: But the bottom line is their arrow was pointing in

572
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 4: the right direction right now. Can they keep it going

573
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Speaker 4: now when they get into conference play.

574
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Speaker 6: Mike, what I loved about seeing Chip Kelly and Ucla

575
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 6: win that football game.

576
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Speaker 5: We'll get to LSU in just a second.

577
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Speaker 6: What I loved about it is I think people forget,

578
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Speaker 6: you know, when I was growing up, When we were

579
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 6: growing up, Mike, Ucla was a big deal in the

580
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 6: college football landscape. USC and UCLA. You had Troy Yekman

581
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 6: playing at UCLA. You had Rodney p playing over at USC.

582
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Speaker 6: You had Hetsman Trophy winners or Heisman Trophy candidates on

583
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Speaker 6: both teams. And I think college football is just better, Mike,

584
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 6: with teams like UCLA, USC, Notre Dame. You saw Florida

585
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,360
Speaker 6: State come back a little bit over the weekend. We'll

586
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 6: get to that game in a second. College football is

587
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 6: better when those teams are really good.

588
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Speaker 5: And it looks like I agree.

589
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 4: I agree. So again, it's early in the season, those

590
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 4: first couple of games. You gotta let's sell a little bit.

591
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 4: But that was a big win over big program in LSU.

592
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 4: That was a nice, big matchup and a nice test.

593
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Speaker 4: So I agree with you. That's let's but let's again

594
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 4: see what happens going forward.

595
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 5: All right.

596
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 6: That leads me to LSU. Mike, What the hell happened

597
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 6: to LSU since they won their national championship.

598
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Speaker 4: We keep talking about the same teams that are always

599
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 4: at the top, you know, Clemson, Ohio State, Alabama, obviously, Oklahoma.

600
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 4: We said that about. We throw Georgia in every now

601
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 4: and then, and kind of in the proof is LSU.

602
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 4: They're not up there all the time, but they're up

603
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 4: there sometimes. Listen ed Orgeron. I mean when he was

604
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 4: at SC and took over there, they keep talking about

605
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 4: his job. You know, at LSU they want to talk

606
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 4: about his job, and then he wins, and then they

607
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,719
Speaker 4: don't forbid, They'll start talking about his job again. It's

608
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 4: unbelievable how that works. But they're an up and down team.

609
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 4: They have great athletes. A lot depends on the quarterback.

610
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 4: Remember the year they did what they did. Burrow had

611
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 4: just a monster year and they had an incredible coordinator

612
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 4: that went to the NFL as well. So they were

613
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 4: very quarterback reliant. So they have to be that team

614
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 4: again that isn't all reliant on the quarterback. You know,

615
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 4: you sit there, look at an Alabama, you know, with Georgia,

616
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 4: who got that big win. These are teams that were

617
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 4: living though the kid from Bama played well, they rely

618
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 4: on so many other parts of their game. And you

619
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 4: see LSU getting tons of players in the NFL all

620
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 4: the time, So the horses are there. It's just a

621
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 4: matter of corralling them all and getting them all on

622
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 4: the same page.

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Speaker 6: Here's what I was thinking. I was thinking, as you know,

624
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Speaker 6: as LSU was losing to to u C. L A

625
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 6: there and UCLA gets off to the two, and I'll

626
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 6: start and LSU has been dreadful since Joe Burrow left

627
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 6: and went to UH went to the NFL, since they

628
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 6: won their national championship. It made me think just how

629
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Speaker 6: impressive it is what Nick Saban and Alabama is doing, Mike,

630
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 6: like it is like to maintain this level of consistency

631
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 6: and success for this long.

632
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Speaker 5: LSU won a national championship two years.

633
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 6: Ago, they're dreadful two years later to be able at

634
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 6: Clemson did not look very impressive in their in their

635
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 6: in their opening week loss to Georgia.

636
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Speaker 5: It just made me think, God, Nick Saban so got it.

637
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 4: And why he's so good, because what's been happening to

638
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 4: Alabama over the years. The one constant is Nick Saban.

639
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 4: Another consonant is they're usually number one, two or worse

640
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,719
Speaker 4: three and recruiting so they're getting the players, but there

641
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 4: are teams that get players and don't develop them the

642
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 4: right way. The one of the amazing things to me

643
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 4: is that he constantly is losing an offensive coordinator and

644
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 4: a defensive coordinator. And when he loses those coordinators, those

645
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 4: coordinators sometimes will take from those position coaches to make

646
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,719
Speaker 4: those guys coordinators where they're going. So you're not losing

647
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 4: just one coach. Sometimes you're losing three. Sometimes you're losing four,

648
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 4: and he just keeps filling them in. He brings them

649
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 4: in guys that get fired maybe in the NFL all

650
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 4: of a sudden, they're an analyst, you know, and you

651
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 4: know the old analyst job that's going on. So that,

652
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 4: to me, there's a way you do business, and we

653
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 4: know the way Saban does business. But you still have

654
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 4: to have the coaches around you, right, and he has

655
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 4: the coaches around him. Now, these coaches move on and

656
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 4: they've never beaten Saban when they play one another. But

657
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 4: to me, that's one of the more amazing things is

658
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 4: he keeps losing his top coaches, keeps replacing them and

659
00:30:58,840 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 4: just keeps winning.

660
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's incredible.

661
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 6: He lost Lane Kiffin, he lost Sarkeesian who's now at Texas.

662
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 6: He lost Kirby Smart to Georgia and he loses players.

663
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 4: Mike.

664
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 6: He had eight new players on offense. They put up

665
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 6: forty four against the fourteenth or eeteen Countrey.

666
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 4: You look at a lot of teams in the country

667
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 4: because everybody got that extra year for COVID, that X

668
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 4: year that doesn't count. Teams are bringing back seventeen, eighteen,

669
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 4: nineteen starters from a year ago. Now Alabama, cause these

670
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 4: guys don't want to come back. These guys are going

671
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 4: to the NFL. So a lot of these guys are

672
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 4: three years and done going to the NFL. Are four

673
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 4: years and going to the NFL. You don't get many

674
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 4: there that are saying, oh, I get an extra year,

675
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 4: let me go, let me go just play again until

676
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 4: I go in the real world and get my finance job. No,

677
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 4: these guys are all going to the NFL. So there,

678
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 4: he's not getting these COVID extra year of eligibility back.

679
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,719
Speaker 4: They're all gone, all right.

680
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 5: Leads me to my next GOSO question.

681
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 6: Quarterbacks are decommitting from places like USC to play at Alabama.

682
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 6: Is college football over go?

683
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 4: So it's what it is right now. I mean, nothing's

684
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 4: changed over the last five, six, seven years, right, I

685
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 4: mean we've had this basically the same teams at the top,

686
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 4: throwing in Oklahoma, throwing a Notre Dame, you know, every

687
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 4: now throwing at Georgia. It's basically been Clemson, Ohio State, Alabama.

688
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 4: We'll see who jumps in, like we've talked already, maybe Texas,

689
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 4: A and M could be that team. But no, I mean,

690
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,239
Speaker 4: you're this is college football, So no, I don't think

691
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 4: it's over. I still think. I still think you're gonna

692
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 4: have a great regular season. What's become somewhat mundane is

693
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 4: the postseason. But the regular season is so exciting because

694
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 4: you're trying to get to the postseason. So that's what

695
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 4: I think keeps it exciting. And it's only gonna get

696
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 4: more exciting. Understand when they go to twelve teams, because

697
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 4: now you have more teams and group of five teams,

698
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, their fan bases are gonna get

699
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 4: excited because at least they'll be in the tournament. You

700
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 4: still may get the same teams that are winning it,

701
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 4: but you can you can't win it if you're not there,

702
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 4: so you got to be there, so just the chance

703
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 4: to be there, and then that helps recruiting. Even if

704
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 4: you're the seventh ranked team in the twelve team college playoff,

705
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 4: you go out, you know, and you get in the

706
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 4: rankings for a couple of years and you're a group

707
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 4: of five. You can go in that in that living

708
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 4: room of that eighteen year old and say, listen, we're

709
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 4: going to the college playoffs, you know, every year, every

710
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 4: other year, so you're gonna get to play, you know,

711
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 4: against the best of the best. So that's a great

712
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 4: recruiting point. So, I mean it nothing's going to be

713
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 4: as different as it is now. Let me put it

714
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 4: this way. It's not gonna get worse. It can't, right,

715
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 4: I mean, it's freaking Alabama throwing Clemson like we have

716
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 4: throwing a year of LSU and like we said, Ohio State.

717
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 4: But basically it's Alabama. So we're already there. So to me,

718
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 4: it can only open up if we can ever get

719
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 4: to that point.

720
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 6: But Mike, here's here's and maybe again it speaks to

721
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 6: how impressive this run has been for Nick Saban because

722
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 6: the first four or five national championships he was doing it.

723
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 6: The one weakness you could point to was, hey, they

724
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 6: don't have a quarterback, like, maybe we have the better

725
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 6: quarterback in this game, and perhaps we have a chance. Right,

726
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 6: But then Jalen Hurts comes in and he makes it

727
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 6: to the NFL.

728
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 5: And you know, a lot.

729
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 6: Of that has to do with Lincoln Riley and Oklahoma

730
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 6: and the time he spent there.

731
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 5: I understand that.

732
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 6: But then Tua comes in as a major quarterback prospect

733
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 6: and he gets selected a second or third overall of

734
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 6: the Dolphins. We'll see how he turns out. And now

735
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 6: you have Mac Jones as the starter in New England.

736
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 6: And so, Mike, it's scary when Nick Saban doesn't even

737
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 6: have to walk into your locker room. Okay, because Bryce

738
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 6: wants to dcommit from USC and play at Alabama because

739
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 6: he sees, hey, their quarterbacks are going to the NFL

740
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 6: now and having success.

741
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 4: I want to go to that place, like it's a

742
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 4: frightening thing. Winning the gets winning, right. So they have

743
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 4: a program where you play, you have a chance to

744
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 4: win a national championship every year and then go to

745
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 4: the NFL. So you pick a five star out there.

746
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 4: That's what they want. And oh, by the way, I

747
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 4: can sign with this team. And if I'm a big

748
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 4: time recruit. I can make a ton of money before

749
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 4: I even step on the field, like Bryce Young, before

750
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 4: he even has a play. So that's all because of

751
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 4: what he's done. It's it's the fruit of his labor.

752
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 4: So you're right. I mean, he goes into living rooms

753
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 4: to talk to players, but he basically could just sit

754
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 4: in one spot and players will be lining up to say, sir,

755
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 4: let me first, let me kiss the ring. Can I

756
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 4: come play for you? I mean, that's listen, that's what

757
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 4: you get when you're that good. So kudos to him

758
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 4: for it, Mike.

759
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, I love the I love imagining Nick Saviy just

760
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 6: sitting back in his office and chairs and you want

761
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 6: to come.

762
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 4: Here to me? I'm right, right right, a three hundred

763
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 4: word essay on why I should sign you here at Alabama?

764
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 5: Plus what do you got in your wallet?

765
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 4: Yeah? And I get twenty percent of your nil deal.

766
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 4: Not that he would need it, God knows.

767
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 5: Right, Mike, he gets a raise every time a coach.

768
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I mean, you can't be in a

769
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 4: better spot than he's in. I mean, you just can't.

770
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 4: And then he'll do it for as long as he wants.

771
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 6: To, which leads me to My next question, should Alabama's

772
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 6: BTA make the playoffs?

773
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 5: Go so so.

774
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 4: Listen, I mean it would be interesting if just the

775
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 4: backups played now again, would they be in the playoffs? No,

776
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 4: I do not think they would, But you know what

777
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 4: they would have. Oh yeah, they beat the Canes. Uh,

778
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 4: they'd have a winning season. I tell you that they

779
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 4: would probably have a winning season. I mean, I mean, look,

780
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 4: who's just stepping in? I mean people, the next guy

781
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 4: just steps up. You get the kid who was a

782
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 4: right tackle last year goes to left tackle because Alex Leatherword,

783
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 4: who was the right tackle, and then when the left

784
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 4: tackle spot became available, he went to left tackle. Then

785
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 4: in the NFL, this kid now was at right tackle

786
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 4: last year, is at left tackle this year. And it'll

787
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 4: be a first round there in the NFL. Like I said,

788
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 4: you keep getting those recruits because you win. So you

789
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 4: have five life stars backing up five stars, you know,

790
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 4: five or four stars and just getting ready to step

791
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 4: in and play Mike last.

792
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 6: Well, two more questions here for GUSO was Dabos Swinny

793
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 6: Right now, you made a very good point earlier about

794
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 6: the twelve team playoff.

795
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 5: We're still in a four team playoff.

796
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 6: But I think Dabos Swinny kind of made a great

797
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 6: point last year when he said there aren't twelve teams

798
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 6: good enough for a twelve team playoff?

799
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 5: Was Dabo rights?

800
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 4: I really feel like I should be putting my hands

801
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 4: together every time you hear that one. Yes, you know

802
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 4: he is right because we talk about this in the

803
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 4: pro sports all the time. How many teams are good enough,

804
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 4: you know, to win to win a championship. I know

805
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 4: I do not think there. I think he is right.

806
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 4: There are not twelve teams that could beat the top

807
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 4: teams and win a national championship. But that doesn't matter.

808
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 4: It's not all about winning it. Like I said, it's

809
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 4: about recruiting as well. It's about extra money because these

810
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 4: bowl games are going to be tied to more money.

811
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,919
Speaker 4: There's a lot of money in college football, and there's

812
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 4: a lot of money in the college football playoff. And

813
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 4: once they learn where to dispense that, we're going to

814
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 4: get to the twelve team a lot sooner than we think.

815
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 4: I know, we probably hit a roadblock here because of

816
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 4: the possible conference realignment. You know, in the whole pac twelve,

817
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 4: Big ten, acc friends with benefit Pack, whatever the hell

818
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 4: they have going on, but that might slow the role

819
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 4: of the twelve team playoff. But no, Dabbo's right, there

820
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 4: aren't teams twelve teams good enough to win the championship.

821
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 4: But in all honesty, that, in all honesty, that's not

822
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 4: what it's all about. You're in the tournament, you have

823
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 4: a chance, but extra money comes with it, and it

824
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 4: also helps you in recruiting.

825
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 6: So, Mike, you're saying, because right now, if the season

826
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 6: ended today and we were just looking at the rankings,

827
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 6: Iowa State would be a playoff team. And you're saying,

828
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 6: for a school like Iowa State to simply make the playoffs,

829
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 6: winn a game or two, perhaps make it to a

830
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 6: national semi final.

831
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 4: That is massive, massive, massive, and forgetting even in Iowa State.

832
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 4: And I did a lot of the games last year.

833
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 4: Matt Campbell's doing a great job for them. They have

834
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 4: a very good team. They had a lot of guys

835
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 4: that came back. I mean, for like the group of

836
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 4: fives that have never gotten a chance in the playoffs.

837
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 4: Now they're gonna get into the playoffs. So they're gonna

838
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 4: get a playoff game, they're gonna get that extra money.

839
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,760
Speaker 4: And while the five stars and fourth there are, believe

840
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 4: it or not, there are some five and four stars

841
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 4: who don't want to wait to play. They'd like to

842
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 4: go play right away. So they won't go to a

843
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 4: bigger school where a five or four star is maybe

844
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 4: a sophomore or something or a freshman. They'll may choose

845
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 4: a group of five and say, I'm gonna go there

846
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna play right away and get my stock high.

847
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 6: In what was the best game of the weekend my

848
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 6: Florida State and Notre Dame. Was it an odd way

849
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 6: for Florida State to honor Bobby Bouten by putting one

850
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 6: wide left.

851
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 3: Go.

852
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 4: So I don't even want to answer that, because we

853
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 4: all love that guy. We all love that I love

854
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 4: I love what they have on the field forum, I

855
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 4: love how they did everything. But but you're well, yeah,

856
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 4: I mean listen, I give them credit for coming back

857
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 4: and tie in that game up. I mean they were

858
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 4: a great, great game. So you know, people say, oh,

859
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 4: Notre Dame gave up thirty eight, blah blah. I say,

860
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 4: you know what, it's week one, You take the win,

861
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 4: you get the hell out, and you move on for

862
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 4: Florida State. I get there's no moral victories, but for

863
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 4: a team that had been down so much, that was

864
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 4: that was pretty pretty bright. What you saw when them

865
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 4: coming back the way they did. You know, Mackenzie Milton,

866
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 4: that kid, I mean coming back off that that knee

867
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 4: injury and coming in the game and what he did.

868
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 4: I mean, how you not you see him showing in

869
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 4: the stands. I mean his mom's crying. I mean, you

870
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 4: gotta be just dying with every play for that kid

871
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 4: out there hoping he's okay.

872
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 5: You were so happy there, weren't you. I mean, just

873
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 5: like put us there, Mike, put us there, Notre Dame,

874
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,479
Speaker 5: Florida State. I mean it brought me.

875
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 6: Back to my childhood, like the Charlie Ward game against

876
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 6: Lou Holtz's Notre Dame team, who I think they won

877
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 6: that game that lost to BC and Glenn.

878
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 5: Foley the next week.

879
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 6: So yeah, and Glenn Foley, Mike yey, I did say

880
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 6: Glenn Foley anytime.

881
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 4: I I remember the first time I went and did

882
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 4: a Jacksonville Jaguar game for their preseason TV in ninety five,

883
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 4: and who was the coach, Tom Coughlin. And when I

884
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 4: went to their training camp to hang out, I walked

885
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 4: in his office, and that friggin picture is right above them,

886
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 4: that friggin field goal when Boston College beating Notre Dame.

887
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 4: And I'm just like, dude, He's like, oh, that's every

888
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 4: echoes everywhere I go. It's sickening. But yeah, listen, Florida.

889
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 4: There have been some great Florida State Notre Dame games

890
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 4: in the past. This one, from both being powerhouses wasn't

891
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 4: so much because Florida State's been down a bit. But

892
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 4: may you know they they turned in an ol of

893
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 4: her performance and taking that one to overtime, So let's

894
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 4: see if they can build off that. They have good athletes.

895
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 4: They made a ton of mistakes in that game. Some

896
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 4: you could put on it being the first game of

897
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 4: the season. Some they just you know, it's just going

898
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 4: to take a while for the discipline to be there

899
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 4: fully to not make as many mistakes.

900
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 6: But Mike Brian Kelly told us, and by the way,

901
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 6: do you text Kelly after the games, like, Hey, good

902
00:41:58,680 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 6: job coaching.

903
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 4: No, I do not, but I'll see him at some point.

904
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 4: We look kind of close to one another here, so

905
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 4: I'm sure I'll run into him.

906
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 6: He did tell us that Norville is a very good

907
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 6: head coach when he was on with us, and he

908
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 6: told us that Florida State was going to be a

909
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 6: lot better this year.

910
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 4: And they are. They definitely are. They had some areas

911
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 4: they had to rebuild, and Norville had a rough start

912
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 4: there when he first started there. But he's he's he's

913
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 4: getting the players to buy into what he's selling now,

914
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 4: and that's sometimes it takes time. But let's see if

915
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 4: they can again springboard that performance into other good ones.

916
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 6: All right, just getting away from Goso for a second,

917
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 6: I have one college football thing I want to discuss

918
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 6: with you, and one uh and one NFL thing that

919
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 6: I'd like to discuss. But in college football, Mike, it's

920
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 6: interesting the ACC Clemson had the worst possible weekend you

921
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 6: could have. Not only did they lose to Georgia, and

922
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 6: Georgia's defense looks fair, yes they do, think my goodness.

923
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 6: In fact, if there's a team that could beat Alabama

924
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 6: out there, maybe it is the University of Georgia. But

925
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 6: the worst possible weekend for Clemson and Dabos Winney. Not

926
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 6: only did you lose that game, but the Canes lost

927
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 6: they got blown out by Alabama, and you had North

928
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 6: Carolina lose, and so it looks like Clemson Mike could

929
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 6: go the rest of the season without playing a ranked opponent.

930
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 6: And I'm just not certain if that's the case and

931
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 6: they run the table here, how they nake it to

932
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 6: the College Football Playoff.

933
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 4: I had said before the first week that even the

934
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 4: loser of Georgia, Clemson maybe wasn't in a bad shape

935
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 4: because they were still oh and oh in their conference

936
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 4: and could win it. But to that point, I didn't

937
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 4: see all those accs losing to where if all of

938
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 4: a sudden they drop in rankings or aren't ranked, Clemson

939
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 4: could go undefeated in the ACC win the ACC Championship.

940
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 4: But if there are other teams that are undefeated or

941
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 4: a one loss SEC team, I mean, then all bets

942
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,720
Speaker 4: could be off. I mean, it could be really really

943
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 4: interesting for them because of that. I mean, because those

944
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 4: guys are definitely going to drop there. There's no doubt

945
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 4: about that. I mean, already you sit there, everybody's already

946
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 4: looking ahead. Say Georgia plays Alabama in the SEC championship game,

947
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 4: and say Alabama beach Georgia. Well, Georgia has a loss,

948
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 4: Alabama doesn't. But Georgia is still gonna get in, you know,

949
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 4: so that's taking a spot and you have the other

950
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 4: power fives. Is someone else gonna jump in there? It

951
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 4: could be difficult. The one thing that can usually can

952
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 4: save them sometimes is we wonder about the PAC twelve.

953
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 4: Is a PAC twelve gonna be good enough to get

954
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 4: a representative? You know, so you could have two from

955
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 4: the SEC, But then you have three other conferences Big twelve,

956
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 4: Big ten where you think it'll be Ohio State, and

957
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 4: then you got one more slot if it's Alabama and Georgia,

958
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 4: then it could be between Big twelve and the ACC

959
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 4: be interesting.

960
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 6: It's so crazy how it works because you look at

961
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 6: the PAC twelve right now, and again we're two weeks

962
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 6: into the season though, but UCLA looks to be back.

963
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 6: But Washington had a loss that you don't really want,

964
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 6: right but Arizona State looks like they could be pretty good.

965
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 6: It's like it's crazy college football. The NFL starts this weekend.

966
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 6: I heard Jeff Saturday talk about Zach Martin, who's not

967
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 6: going to be available for the game on Thursday night

968
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 6: played at Notre Dame.

969
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 5: Obviously you you're very familiar with him.

970
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,959
Speaker 6: Jeff Saturday said that Zach Morton at his position, he's

971
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 6: the Patrick Mahones of his position that outside of quarterbacks,

972
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 6: he might be the most important person in the NFL,

973
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 6: especially when you consider Dak Prescott coming off that injury.

974
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 6: So because none of us are paying attention to line play, Mike,

975
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 6: and we're only paying attention to quarterback play, okay, because

976
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 6: it's the only thing that we can kind of digest

977
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 6: and analyze and look at. Okay, explain to people just

978
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 6: how good Zach Morton is and how important a loss

979
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 6: that is for the Dallas.

980
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 4: One of the best linemen I ever played against. I

981
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 4: played against him when he was at Penn State. I

982
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 4: was a freshman, notre name he was a senior was

983
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 4: Mike Munchuk. And then Mike Munchuk went Toto Oilers, obviously,

984
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 4: and we're teammates. So I practice against him every day

985
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 4: and he's in the Hall of Fame, as he should

986
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 4: be because he's one of the greatest offensive linemen to ever play.

987
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 4: The one thing you do as a d lineman is

988
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 4: you try and get tells from an offensive lineman. What

989
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 4: does he do? Is he looking one way as he

990
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 4: digging a foot one times he's got too much pressure

991
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 4: on his hand. I haven't seen a player since Mike Buncheck,

992
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 4: and this was in the early eighties, until Zach Martin,

993
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 4: where he's in the exact same stance every time. He

994
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 4: doesn't give away anything ever on the stands on what

995
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 4: he's doing and what the play is going to be.

996
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 4: And then he is so technically sound. I said that

997
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 4: one of the best technical guys I ever went against

998
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 4: was Dwight Stevenson, the great center from the Dolphins. Zach

999
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 4: Martin will go down. Is one of the greatest technicians

1000
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,959
Speaker 4: on the line to ever play a game. And when

1001
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 4: somebody else gets a hand inside of him or gets

1002
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 4: leverage on him. His ability to regroup because you don't

1003
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 4: win every single time, at least right off the bat.

1004
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 4: His ability to replace his hands, move his hips, slide

1005
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 4: his feet, get back in a position to win when

1006
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 4: you don't think he can is uncanny. So he basically

1007
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 4: has it all. He has a great stance, he doesn't

1008
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:12,439
Speaker 4: give anything away. He's a technician, incredible technician, and when

1009
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 4: at times he gets in a bad position, he is

1010
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 4: able to switch it and make it up to put

1011
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 4: himself in a good position as long as he says

1012
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 4: healthy A couple of more years. He's a walk in

1013
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 4: Hall of Famer walk in and he could play any position.

1014
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 4: He's played right tackle, he played left tackle for four

1015
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 4: years at Notre Dame. He could play left guard or center,

1016
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 4: could do anything, you know. I just hope the injury bug,

1017
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 4: which has started to get him a little bit, not

1018
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 4: for this game. It's the COVID situation. I just hope

1019
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 4: that stays away and he can fulfill and go where

1020
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 4: he belongs, because he'll go down as one of the

1021
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 4: great linemen to play in the NFL.

1022
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 6: But Mike, you'd be a nervous wreck if you're a

1023
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 6: cowboy fan or a coach, right putting that quarterback in

1024
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 6: with that.

1025
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 4: That, Yeah, I mean, he's a guy you count on

1026
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 4: for so much. I know there's five guys up front

1027
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 4: and they all have to work in unison, but I mean,

1028
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 4: you heard Zeke Elliott said. He says, hell of a

1029
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 4: lot of the runs end up over him. Even if

1030
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 4: they don't start over him, I end up going you know,

1031
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 4: where he's blocking. So that's how he important he is.

1032
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 4: And you're right, people don't understand enough how important O

1033
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,240
Speaker 4: lineman are. Dude is. Dude is unreal.

1034
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 5: But at least they're not playing the Bucks.

1035
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 4: Yeah. At least they're not playing the team that stops

1036
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 4: to run the best. Yeah.

1037
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 6: And at least back God, no, no, no, what's amazing?

1038
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 6: Exact Martin Covid. List This guy's hurt, that guy's out,

1039
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,919
Speaker 6: this guy's hurt. You Tom Brady, you're forty four years

1040
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 6: of age?

1041
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 4: Is fine, there is, He's all good. It's all good

1042
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 4: with his avocado ice cream.

1043
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 6: And listen, looking back at that boat parade. I mean,

1044
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,240
Speaker 6: it's hard for me to fathom how he contracted Covid.

1045
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 4: No, I can't see it, no clue how it happened.

1046
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 5: At least we know he's human now, it is true.

1047
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 4: It's accept.

1048
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 5: Go mikey A.

1049
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 6: How refreshing is it for us to have someone who

1050
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 6: knows fucking football.

1051
00:48:53,760 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 7: And that is liked, not like loved? Yes, otherwise it'd

1052
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 7: be me and you talking about football. It's like, I

1053
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 7: have this going on.

1054
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 4: It makes me.

1055
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 6: I feel so confident. I have this goldic shield. I

1056
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 6: hold them up and I'm like, I'm a golic, I'm

1057
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 6: a footballizper.

1058
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 5: He hates doing this with me. Stupidity