WEBVTT - Girls Talk, 'Boys Talk: Finding a Balance 0:00:02.680 --> 0:00:05.200 The following is a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:07.040 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.080 --> 0:00:09.880 Cowboys. 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:16.360 This is Girls Talk Boys Talk, presented by Jigsaw Dating, 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:21.360 preferred dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys, and broadcasting live 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:26.279 from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. Now your 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:33.000 hosts Christy Scales, Aisha Morrison, Nicole Hutchison and Jess Navares. 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:39.600 Well, Good Thursday morning, everybody. 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:42.160 Welcome to Girls Talk Boys Talk presented by Jig Saw, 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:45.080 the preferred dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys, brought to 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:48.760 you live here in the SWBC podcast studio at the 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:52.200 Rainy Star in Frisco, Rainy. Start to ourrow morning. This morning, ladies, 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:55.200 we give Christy Scales, Hey, Shan Morrison. Jestavars are jazzy 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:59.040 jazz producing for us in the back today. Arnicle Hutcheson 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:02.400 is taking some very well deserved r in our time, 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:05.920 So I'm here filling in as your host today and 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:08.840 then next week she will be back in her host seat. 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:11.880 So we miss her, We love her, but we know 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:15.959 she deserves one heck of a vacation, especially after all 0:01:16.000 --> 0:01:17.920 of the amazing coverage she gave us with the combine 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:18.320 so cool. 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:20.480 We love you, we miss you, but you better not 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:22.440 be watching this. Enjoy the heck out of your vacation. 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:27.200 All right, everybody, let's start off by saying we have 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:30.200 our text line open, so if you guys have any questions, 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:32.880 you can text us at eight one seven two nine 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:36.080 zero three two nine to eight. I'm gonna have it 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:38.760 here open throughout the show, so if you have any questions, 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:41.240 shoot it to us and we will answer them as 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:45.920 they come in. But where can I start this podcast 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:48.880 off with a little conversation, a little debate, if you will. 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:54.560 Something that's being talked about NonStop in all things Dallas Cowboys. 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:58.640 It's on the TV, it's on Twitter. Is that of 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:02.400 the comments of Dallas Cowboys tight end current Houston Texans 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:05.600 tight end Dalton Schultz, who actually just signed I believe 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:07.600 a three year contract. 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:08.440 With the team. 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:14.680 And it's very interesting because he appeared on the Pat 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:18.800 McFee Show and had some comments about what it was 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.160 like to play for the Cowboys. I had the exact 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:24.600 quote up here. I don't want to butcher this, so 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:26.040 I'm just gonna read it to you guys and we 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:29.880 can open it up for a discussion. All right, he said, quote, 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:31.959 the focus is just football, you know what I mean. 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:35.600 He's obviously talking about playing in Houston. He said, I'm 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:38.360 going back and telling some people about being around the 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:41.920 Cowboys practice facility and game day and describing some of 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:44.200 the interactions and stuff that you see on a day 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:46.600 to day basis, and it surprises a lot of people. 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:51.280 They're like, Holy, it actually happens at the practice facility. 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:53.560 You think it's normal, and then you come play at 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:56.960 a place like this. He said, it's literally a zoo, Dude, 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:00.480 that there's people tape tapping on glass trying to get 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:04.080 people's attention while they're doing power cleans or whatever. It's different. 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:08.079 That's the brand they've built, that's what owner Jerry Jones likes. 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:10.480 That's the way they run things, and there's nothing wrong 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:13.120 with that. You just don't realize how many eyeballs and 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:16.320 how much that can maybe distract in the locker room 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:18.760 or just being in the facility until you go somewhere else, 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:20.560 like holy, there's none of that. 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:23.000 Okay. 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:26.400 So this comes in the wake of the Cowboys culture discussion. Ladies, 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:28.600 I want to open this up for discussion. What do 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:30.679 you think about Dalton Schulz's. 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:33.760 Comments and kind of the. 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:37.240 Weight that it's holding, especially with this off season conversation 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:40.040 of there being a culture problem here with the Cowboys. 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:43.240 Well, when he's preferring to tapping the window that there 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:45.560 are tours that take place at the Star in Frisco, 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:47.200 and we need to be very clear that the only 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:49.560 time the Cowboys are at at and T Stadium is 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:53.640 on game day. All the work during the week is 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:57.040 here at the Star in Frisco, and all these questions 0:03:57.040 --> 0:04:00.000 about culture, you know, there weren't any questions about it 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:03.400 during the twelve wins of the regular season. The questions 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:07.120 about the culture have come after the shocking and disappointing 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:08.480 first round loss. 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:12.360 Is he right about it? Yes, there are tours that 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:13.040 take place. 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:16.320 Yes, there are a lot more things that come with 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:19.279 being a Dallas Cowboy than certainly being a member of 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:23.679 the Houston Texans or some of the franchises that don't 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:26.800 have quite the following that the Cowboys do. Or mainly 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:30.400 it has to do with accessibility, and Jerry wants this 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:35.440 team to be accessible not only to corporate sponsors but 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:38.440 also to fans, and so it's one of the few 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:42.200 places where you can take a tour of the actual 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:46.840 workplace during the week and not just the stadium on 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:51.080 game day. And so I think the main phrase that 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:54.560 people have to understand, whether you're working for the Cowboys 0:04:55.160 --> 0:05:01.280 and as an employee in the media, whether you're it 0:05:01.320 --> 0:05:04.200 comes with the dinner. That's something that Jason Garrett would 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:07.359 always say. All of these extraneous things that come with 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:10.880 being the Dallas Cowboys, whether it's playing so many primetime 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:14.920 games during the season because they're a top draw, right, 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:19.360 all of that overnight travel, the being in Oxnard, California, 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:21.720 away from your family for three and a half weeks 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:25.840 during training camp, all lies being on you. It comes 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:28.960 with the dinner. That's the way it is, rightly or wrongly, 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:31.560 Dalton Schultz. The main thing he's right about is that's 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:34.360 the way Jerry wants it. And when you're the owner 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:36.479 and when you're trying to pay all these bills, and 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:39.200 when you have the reason why the valuation is nine 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:42.200 billion dollars and why this development at the Star in 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:45.880 Frisco was worth more than the actual stadium at at 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:48.880 and T, it's because of all of these other things. 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:53.840 Yeah, well, I'm gonna try to take my emotions out 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:55.919 of it and things like that. As far as talking 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:59.159 about what it's like being here, I think we can definitely. 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:01.719 I know me and Jessica definitely test being new last year. 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:04.960 It was an adjustment and I even so was just 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:08.000 surprised that just some of the accessibility to your point 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:12.640 that you brought up, Christy, but I will say this 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:16.240 is a conversation that's been happened for though. And to 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:19.000 your point about this is, you know, yeah, this is 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:22.679 how Jerry and the way that they have things that accessibility, 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:24.800 people being able to come in and everything. But I 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:29.480 do think sometimes it can be You can try to 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.200 adjust all day and prepare for something like that, but 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:36.080 to experience it can be distracted, can be and I've 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:39.760 heard multiple players say this type of stuff about being here. 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.680 I do think it is a unique situation. There's nothing. 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:45.159 I don't think there's anything like it here in the 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:47.680 league for any player. To the points that you made 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:50.400 about the games, you know, the primetime games, the amount 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:52.880 of attention they get, the scrutiny, and just how they're 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:56.920 under a microscope, absolutely, But in regard to what he's saying, 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:59.400 I do think that there needs to be a balance 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:06.279 and I do think that although although it's it should 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:09.280 be I don't know accepted. I do think there needs 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:13.440 to be a balance because we have to consider that 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:16.440 this is their workplace. This is their workplace, just like 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:18.760 we like if we were working at our desk, and 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:21.280 like I mean, people go through tours here and that's fine, 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:24.960 like we love it, but for certain instances, with how 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:28.680 high stakes what they do is, I do think sometimes 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.320 it could be a distract It could be distracting, and 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:34.840 it could take away some of the intensity of what 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:38.400 this game calls for and what this game feels like 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:41.360 and the preparation for this game feels like. Sometimes. So 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:44.320 I don't know, I'm very torn about it. And in 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:47.240 regard to the culture thing, again, like I'm going to 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:49.120 push back a little bit to you, Christy on the 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:52.600 fact that it's just this postseason, this after this season. 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:57.000 We've been having conversations about this culture for you know, 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:58.960 the last couple of years, because that's why we have 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:01.120 new coaches coming in and stuff, because they're trying to 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:03.680 change it. They're trying to flip the script. They're trying 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:07.560 to make this more football oriented. And I do think 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:11.960 it is difficult sometimes when there is so much outside 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:14.440 of football that goes on here. And again it's not 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:17.320 just even in the building. I mean the national media. 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:20.760 The tension that this team gets is next level stuff. 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:23.160 I don't believe that you can coach or handle this 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:25.640 team like any other team in the NFL because it's 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:28.960 very unique, and so I think it's just like a 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:31.800 I don't know. I just think it's just like a 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:33.440 new a new job or something that like to your 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:36.200 to his point, it's like, yeah, you can prepare all day, 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:40.720 but to experience it, I don't know. I feel some 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:44.760 of the players in this situation, and yeah, that's just 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:45.679 how I feel about it. 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:47.720 Some some players are better, and I think it has 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:53.079 to do with your your personality. You're able to handle 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:56.200 not only that kind of pressure, but always being in 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:59.480 the spotlight. I think that's one of Dak Prescott's great strengths. 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:04.000 There be other quarterbacks and I'm going a little further 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:08.360 back that don't don't like it, that kind of buckled 0:09:08.440 --> 0:09:12.560 under it, right, And so I'm not talking about Tony Romo. 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:18.160 No, I'm not talking about Tony Romo. 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:22.200 But see, but Romo didn't know any differently, and neither 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:25.160 did Dat Prescott. Neither one of them to Troy Aikman, 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:27.720 never played in a different uh. 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:29.679 Place or system. 0:09:29.920 --> 0:09:33.560 Uh obviously what Roger Staubach went through with, you know 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:36.480 under Tom Landry. But it's it's a spectrum, right, All 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:39.839 workplaces are a little bit different. The culture in New 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:43.320 England under Bill Belichick was very very different, right, I 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:45.240 mean just all football, and you know they talked about 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:47.920 you're not having any fun and stuff like that, you're winning, 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:50.920 and some players really thrive in that. But others are 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.160 like man, they couldn't you know, they wanted to go 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:57.280 someplace where you know, I won't say easier, but a 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:00.280 different culture. So it takes it takes all tie it 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:04.000 takes all temperaments. And I agree with you. I think 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:08.120 that for some players it could be distracting. But like 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:11.960 Dalton Schultz, and he says it in his comments on 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:15.480 the Pat McAfee show, he didn't know any differently until 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:18.800 he got to Houston. He came here in twenty eighteen 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:20.439 as a fourth round pick, and. 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:22.760 I also, you know that's just the way it was. 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:24.920 Well, I also want to throw in there too, is 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:28.400 just because it's Dalton Schultz doesn't mean we shouldn't listen 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:33.040 and I think that's something that's getting a little misconstrued 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:36.240 on Twitter, especially, is because people have such strong feelings 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:40.319 about Dalton and kind of I guess his mo O 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:42.720 while he was in Dallas, especially when it comes to 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:46.760 his online persona that they're not going to listen to that. 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:50.280 And as a fan, I understand how that could be, like, 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:52.920 oh my gosh, he doesn't want fans around and blah 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.840 blah blah. Look as a fan, I get it. I 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:59.480 grew up a Cowboys fan. My family would drive from 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:02.559 Lost Crews over here to home games from one day 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:10.320 and then drive back. Like I understand the amount of time, effort, energy, money, blood, 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:13.120 sweat tears you put into your fandom for the Cowboys. 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:16.320 But you can't see this through a fan lens. And 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:19.240 just because it's Dalton Schultz saying it doesn't take the 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:20.280 validity out of it. 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:22.599 Doesn't take anything out of it. Because if it was 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:25.559 Jason Witten saying it, you'd listen. You'd be like, oh, 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:26.400 that's a good point. 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:29.880 Actually, But just because it's Dalton Schultz doesn't mean it's 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:30.880 not a valid point. 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:34.320 I Actually I would say it means even more. I mean, 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:36.240 this guy was a player, rep here. 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:39.960 Yeah, and you know, players Union, it's a good point. 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:43.640 Really really fine player. What a terrific career Dalton Schultz 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:46.040 has had. And that three year deal he signed with 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:49.760 the Texans this week, three years, thirty six million dollars 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:54.240 A man, great for him, and he was a fine 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:56.360 player when he was here. He's a good person, good 0:11:56.400 --> 0:12:00.720 family guy. So I think he is the right player 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:01.959 to talk about things like that. 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:04.240 We also got a text, sorry, no, go ahead. We 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:07.280 got a text from Mike and Milwaukee things for texting us, Mike, 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.000 he said, having lived in Los Angeles, it's the same 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:12.400 with the Lakers. Players that play for the Lakers will 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:15.320 tell you it's not like playing for the Cleveland Cavaliers. 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:17.200 If you don't want the eyeballs on, you don't play 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:19.080 for the Dallas Cowboys. We were kind of talking about 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:22.199 this before the show started, of how this could be 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:24.160 a debate. I usually I want to defer to you 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:26.560 for this right because I think it's not just so 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:29.320 black and white. I think there's a lot of in between. 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:32.679 Grace base that makes that kind of a hard point. 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:34.520 Oh yeah, absolutely. I mean, first of all, if you 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:38.040 drafted baby, I don't have a maybe you ain't got 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:41.000 my choice, and I do think it is a give 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:43.079 and take thing. I do think it is a give 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:45.199 and take thing. I mean, I think a lot of 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:50.240 players benefit from being here, the brand deals, the notoriety 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:53.160 and things like that. I do think that there's good 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:56.800 that comes in it. But again, my thing about hearing 0:12:56.880 --> 0:13:00.640 players like Dalton Schultz should obey Woozia, there's been multiple 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:04.719 players is the fact that they sound refreshed when they 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:07.600 say it is. It's not. It would be different if 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:11.640 they were just saying it, but they're saying I enjoy this, 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:15.880 I enjoy this side of things more. And again, I 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:18.600 really do think that sometimes the business side of things, 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:24.800 the entertainment piece, all of that becomes it overshadows the 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:28.000 football sometimes. And I really do think that some of 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.800 the players are well that. I mean, again, we've heard 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:33.959 multiple players talk about this, that it's going to be 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:36.080 important for them to kind of find a balance and 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:38.080 adopt some of the things. I mean, it doesn't have 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:39.839 to be Belichick, it doesn't. 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:41.079 Have to be like that, right, But it's not. 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:45.439 I'm giving opposite absolutely, But I think it's nothing wrong 0:13:45.480 --> 0:13:50.080 with adapting and finding some balance in that because I 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:52.760 don't know, like we talk about it, the preparation week 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:54.880 to week and what they have to work, they have 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:57.719 to put in and things like that. I just sometimes 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:00.600 even I personally feel like it's it's little much. But 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:03.920 in regard to the draft stuff and guys not really 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:06.560 having a choice sometimes, I mean, these guys are playing 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:08.800 for their livelihood and things like that. So it's like 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:10.880 it's easier said than done. Just don't come here, just 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:11.520 don't play here. 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.160 It's all yeah, but you're right, you don't. It's not 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:16.360 if you're drafted. You this is one of you. 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:19.480 Do you think it's the United States? I don't have 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:20.600 to say, and where you go? 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:23.840 And I think it can deter players though I think 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:27.000 it has the third players. I think it has the 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:31.000 thurd players because the social even from the social media 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:35.880 aspect of like what the players experience on a regular basis. 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:38.360 I mean, respectfully, jay Ron Curse had death threats this 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:41.800 past season from a fan. Ye what they experience that 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:46.320 other places if it wasn't so microscope everything. Because another 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:48.800 thing too is like I love being here, but we 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:53.520 have more media than most teams buy a lot. There's 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:57.240 a lot more voices speaking on and breaking down the 0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:59.560 intricacies of the game and breaking down all. 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:01.720 Of the if they're not in the building, talk talk 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:02.120 about it. 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:03.800 Even if they're not in the building. Every day our 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:07.440 radio station, our our owner and our owners, they go 0:15:07.480 --> 0:15:09.600 on to Radio STA like there's more. 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:13.440 Four hits a week on the fan th FM. Jerry 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:15.560 does two a week during the season and Steven does 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:16.600 during the week. 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:22.360 So I do think that our fan base sometimes is 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:25.880 over educated. I wish that there was some secrets in 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:29.000 this place. I wish that there wasn't always everybody knowing 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:31.360 everything all the time, because I do think when you 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:34.680 have as much information as our fan base gets from 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:38.680 the YouTube community, from the content creators, from the radio, 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:43.800 from us, it really it's different. It's this is very unique. 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:47.120 I really do think like we take for I don't. 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:49.480 Sometimes I have to sit and think, like there's so 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:53.240 many voices talking about this team consistently, and then if 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:56.200 you turn on the TV teams that are other teams, 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:57.960 like they may not mention them all week, they may 0:15:58.000 --> 0:15:59.000 not mention them all year. 0:15:59.160 --> 0:16:02.320 Like It's just I also think too, I don't know, 0:16:02.520 --> 0:16:07.400 it depends on I guess the circumstance of the player 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:11.760 on if they, because. 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:12.080 It's the truth. 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:15.920 It really is so interesting because you have guys like 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:19.000 Dalton Schultz and Cheetoh that have come out to say, 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:23.360 you know, and they're relatively younger players, and I can't imagine. 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:25.040 Well, I guess to an. 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:27.960 Extent, you and I can kind of relate of being 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:31.680 younger and not knowing any different and coming in here 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:34.040 and kind of being shell shocked at first. I mean, 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:37.400 even us doing this podcast, Uh when. 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:39.720 Did we start this? Not last season season before? 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:43.400 Wow, that's that's crazy. 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:47.160 You know, it's shell shocking. 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:49.680 And but then you have a guy like Jason Peters 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:54.840 that came in here, you know, and it's just I 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:59.680 think it depends too on experience, whether that be football 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:04.160 life anything, because then you also have guys like Janye 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:07.479 that absolutely thrives in being a Dallas cowboy and he 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:08.120 is a younger people. 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:11.040 Yeah, the guys who get it, and again it's temperament. 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:14.520 Some people don't want the attention, like for example, Layton 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:19.120 vander esh And I'm not talking about contract, whether he's 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:20.879 coming back. I'm just talking about him coming in as 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:21.800 a first round pick. 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:26.200 He did not do. He does the minimum amount of media. 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:28.680 That's what he's done in the past, and he's had 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:32.840 some sponsorship things, but he could have owned this town. 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:36.080 You know, he could have owned it and had so 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:41.240 many more sponsorships and the like Ceedee Lamb does quite 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:45.040 a few. Now he's going to explode nationally, right. So 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:48.000 the guys that get it and the guys you know, 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.360 they can really take advantage of it. But not everybody 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:53.720 wants it. That's not Layton's temperament, Sean Lee. He didn't 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:54.520 really care for that. 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:56.960 Now. Did he do all the charitable things? 0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:59.320 Did he have the foundation, Yes, but he did it 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:01.399 behind the sea means and things. 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:03.280 Like that, and a lot of these guys DAK. 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:07.320 There's a wonderful story in the Dallas Morning News today. 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:08.840 Check it out. David Moore wrote it. 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:11.320 If you can go online through the paywal it's worth 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:14.600 reading about DAK and what he did with Children's Cancer 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:19.440 Fund this week. Guys like DAK, they really embrace it. 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:23.600 Does it pay off monetarily through sponsorships, Yes, But I'm 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:26.200 telling you because I have hosted many of the events 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:29.320 that there are so many more things that DAK does 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:33.199 that are not tell publicity, that are not alevised, that 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:36.639 are not people don't hear about him. 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:37.439 He doesn't want you to. 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:42.760 Yeah, he's and but again, I would like to give 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:46.320 one concrete example though, of how things might be different 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:49.159 here than other teams. What are you guys talking about 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:52.479 the microscope? How would it affect players? I think an 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:56.800 obvious example is training camp in California, being out there 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:59.160 for three and we were gone twenty six days this year. 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:05.520 So most teams now train at home, including the Houston Texans. 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:08.320 They don't go off. But here's an example of how 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:11.399 things are different. When the Cowboys come back and have 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:14.720 the final week and a half, basically three to four 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:17.920 practices that are open to the public. By the time 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:21.760 we get back from training camp, it's mid August, late August. 0:19:22.119 --> 0:19:25.960 Kids are back in school. So the practices that would 0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:30.040 be during the day in Oxnard here in Frisco are 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:32.440 in the evening so that people can attend. 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:35.439 Because the first year or two that we did it, 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:36.560 there was nobody. 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:39.040 It was during the day on a Thursday morning or 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:42.679 a Wednesday morning, or excuse me, afternoon, whatever the case, 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:47.480 and it was nearly empty because guess what summer break 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:49.600 was over kids were back in school, or it's during 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:52.080 the work week and so now the past few years 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:56.080 they've had those practices at night, so it's an adjustment 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:59.800 of the practice schedule. So that's just I'm trying to 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:04.359 get a concrete example of Is that a big deal? No, 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:07.280 but is it different from how other teams do things? 0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:08.720 It's just an example. 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:12.720 Sure, let's take our first break, because we ran over 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:16.159 it just a little bit with this conversation. 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Welcome back to Girls Talkboys Talk. Speaking of 0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:02.639 a fun time time, we are brought to you by Jigsaw, 0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:04.760 the preferre dating partner of the Dallas Cowboys. Thank you 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:09.480 Jigsaw Ladies. Aisha Christy, I'm Jess Jazzy Jazz in the 0:22:09.520 --> 0:22:10.679 back for us dazzy. 0:22:11.160 --> 0:22:15.000 We love our jazzy, all right. Let's so, we were 0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:16.680 just talking about Cowboys culture. 0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:22.640 And you know, one of the most interesting topics other 0:22:22.720 --> 0:22:25.560 than Cowboys culture to come off to come up this 0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:30.000 off season is that of the salary cap and contracts 0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:32.359 and deals that need to be done and all of 0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:36.840 that good stuff. The Cowboys re signed veteran DT Carl Davis, 0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:40.040 if you remember, he was signed in the later half 0:22:40.080 --> 0:22:43.159 of the season last year to the practice squad and 0:22:43.200 --> 0:22:45.119 he used up his three elevations. 0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:47.040 Fairly quickly to fill in for Jonathan Hankins. So I 0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:48.080 thought that was interesting. 0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:51.760 Other than that, the franchise tag deadline has come and 0:22:51.800 --> 0:22:53.720 it has gone. It said hello and then it said 0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:58.840 goodbye very quickly, and the Cowboys didn't use THEIRS this 0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:01.240 off season, which was expected. 0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:03.960 We had talked about this a couple of weeks ago that. 0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:08.960 There really wasn't anybody that we could see them putting 0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:13.439 this tag on. So been there, done that, Christy, you 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:16.000 wanted to talk about some of the tags that were 0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:18.000 used around the league. 0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:20.480 And then speaking of tags to kind of tie it 0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:20.800 back in. 0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:23.080 Obviously we know Tony Pollard was on the franchise tag 0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:24.960 last year. Let's get into that discussion as well. 0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:26.480 But let's go around the league a little bit. 0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:28.919 Let's talk about the importance of this tag and kind 0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:29.959 of some names that stood out. 0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:32.119 Well, the main one that stood out to me and 0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:35.440 defensive tackle. You mentioned Carl Davis coming back. Obviously he's 0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:37.680 going to be a depth guy and you know, part 0:23:37.680 --> 0:23:44.040 of the rotation, and yeah, so, but mattabk Justin Matta 0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:48.080 Baka with Baltimore and then the of course, the Chiefs 0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:53.040 tagged their cornerback Lagerius Snead because Chris Jones is available, 0:23:53.200 --> 0:23:55.480 and if they had tagged him with his number, it 0:23:55.480 --> 0:23:57.320 would have been over thirty million dollars. 0:23:57.840 --> 0:24:00.440 So if you. 0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:03.919 Told me, Christie, you could have any free agent this offseason, 0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:06.640 that's the one from Baltimore. Of Course, I'm a Maggie too, 0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:09.600 so I'm a little biased. But when he I'm not 0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:12.720 surprised that they tagged him, but I was like, ah, 0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:16.159 not that the Cowboys, Uh, they would have to do 0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:18.199 a lot of juggling, you know, to be able to 0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:21.679 afford Justin. I think he's going to get probably near 0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:24.440 thirty million dollars a year, certainly in the upper twenties. 0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:27.520 At least, you know, on average. But when I saw that, 0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:29.520 I was like, good for him. I'm happy for him. 0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:32.560 But and I think Baltimore is going to try and 0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:35.679 get a long term deal done with him before the 0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:42.000 July deadline. But when he went on that, I was like, oh, man, yeah. 0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:45.320 Yeah, I was watching well yesterday, I mean we saw 0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:48.399 the Bills cut through loose and furniture. 0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:51.000 Yeah, because big timettle busy. 0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:54.240 Yeah, we're a little busy, and you just kind of 0:24:54.240 --> 0:24:56.959 look at you know, free agency is coming up, and 0:24:57.000 --> 0:25:00.239 I think that teams are, I've particularly the Bill are 0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:02.720 preparing to be able to dismiss the change. You know, 0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:09.160 I think I saw a quarterback get tagged. 0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:11.760 No, no, no, no, there was not. 0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:13.159 Who was it that guy? There was? 0:25:13.280 --> 0:25:14.040 There's a list. 0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:14.399 There was. 0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:16.480 One. 0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:19.719 You know, Brian Burns is a big one with Carolina. 0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:22.320 You know, uh they list him as an edge rusher, 0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:24.200 but he's one of the top players. 0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:27.480 He would be my second pick after Madam b k. 0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:32.640 But that's why I thought that. 0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:35.000 That's why I thought that a quarterback got tagged. It's 0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:38.880 the Josh Allen for Jacksonville. 0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:42.200 Oh and see that's another He would have been my third. 0:25:43.160 --> 0:25:45.879 He would have been my third. That's okay, my top 0:25:45.880 --> 0:25:49.080 three guys. My brain was like, yeah, that's the past 0:25:49.160 --> 0:25:50.920 rusher for Jacksonville. 0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:53.720 Tagging tagging him. 0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:57.240 I think Josh already has his money. 0:25:57.840 --> 0:26:00.240 Y'all leave me alone. 0:26:01.080 --> 0:26:02.080 Here's another question. 0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:05.280 Note, So with Tony Pollard not getting tagged, he was 0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:10.119 tagged last year, yep. And there's some speculation depending on 0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:11.640 how things go in the. 0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:13.480 Open market for Pollard. 0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:16.639 What do you guys think the chances are that he 0:26:16.720 --> 0:26:18.400 actually comes back to the Cowboys? 0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:22.600 You know what, I think it's higher, much higher than 0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:26.760 we anticipated. And again we talk about guys that kind 0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:29.760 of can handle the pressures of being a Dallas Cowboy. 0:26:30.000 --> 0:26:31.440 Tony Pollard is one of those guys. 0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:34.040 He's not the most vocal guy in the room. He's 0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:37.240 not yelling, he's not he's very self spoken. In fact, 0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:38.760 when we're talking to him in the scrum, I'm like, 0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:42.159 what did you say? Because he's very self spoken. But 0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:45.320 he enjoys being here and he enjoys doing what he 0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:49.359 needs to do to help this team, whether it be hey, 0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:52.040 I'm running back to behind Ezekiel Elliott. Oh, it's my 0:26:52.119 --> 0:26:54.159 turn to step up and be the one guess what 0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:57.160 I'm gonna do it, And it may not have been 0:26:57.680 --> 0:27:00.920 this season we were all expecting and hoping from Tony Pollard, 0:27:01.280 --> 0:27:03.240 but look, I don't see any harm in trying to 0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:07.040 bring him back on a deal that's respectful and reasonable 0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:10.320 for what he wants, what the team can do, especially 0:27:11.080 --> 0:27:16.200 not having figured out Dak's contract situation yet. And then 0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:19.480 you know what, if you want to make that a 0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:23.200 training camp competition of who's actually your starting quarterback, whether 0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:26.760 you are starting running back, I'm sorry, whether you draft one, 0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:29.480 whether you pick up a lot, there's a laundry list 0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:32.640 of free agent running backs you could pick from. Make 0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:35.679 it a competition, or you say, hey, you're going to. 0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:38.160 Step back in the reins of the two and that's 0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:40.080 how we're going to keep it. But I don't think 0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:41.600 there's any harm in bringing him back. 0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:44.879 And you know, I understand the bitter taste in everybody's 0:27:44.920 --> 0:27:48.720 mouth because of the disappointing low number, career low season 0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:54.000 that he had, but look, I get running back as 0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:56.840 a dime a dozen, and the position isn't what it 0:27:56.920 --> 0:27:59.440 used to be, and there's just gosh, the free agents 0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:03.320 that are available. It's almost insane this world we live 0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:05.720 in now that you never thought, YEA, guys like this 0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:06.880 would be available. 0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:08.680 It's gonna be a depressed market. Again, it really is. 0:28:08.920 --> 0:28:12.240 Monitor But again I think Tony Pollard's the guy you 0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:14.840 want to keep, especially because you know he can really 0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:17.040 hold up as a running back to and that's valuable. 0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:20.240 Yeah. Absolutely. I mean, obviously when you look at even 0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:23.440 this draft class, you know there are some guys in here. 0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:27.040 But I thought about that recently, is if I'm a 0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:30.199 running back, right, if I'm a I'm in college now, 0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:32.880 I'm going to the draft. When they were in high 0:28:32.920 --> 0:28:35.960 school and they're playing running back, they're thinking about the 0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:37.840 type of money they're gonna make when they get to 0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:40.760 the game and what they could be doing. And now 0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:44.479 to see how the position is very much so by 0:28:44.560 --> 0:28:48.600 committee and things like that. We always look at it as, oh, 0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:50.800 that's good, you can keep guys healthier, you can give 0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:54.760 them more longevity. But no, like you know, total yachters 0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:57.400 on the season and things like that matters, and these 0:28:57.400 --> 0:29:00.840 guys are having to share and exchange reps more than 0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:03.720 they've ever had to do before. So it is something 0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:05.880 that I thought about, and I'm pretty sure it is 0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:08.160 a little disheartening. To some of these young guys coming 0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:12.640 in knowing that hey, babe, after that rookie contract, yeah, 0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:15.920 be careful, it's gonna use you up. Yeah. I'm looking 0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:18.560 like I'm hoping that some of these young guys coming 0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:22.280 in and out in this draft are preparing and putting 0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:25.560 things in place outside of the game because this it's 0:29:25.640 --> 0:29:27.920 just this disposition is and even if you look at 0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:30.120 the position in itself, bebe If you ain't got no 0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:34.120 receiving qualities, it's almost a detriment because teams can take 0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:35.320 you away and take advantage of it. 0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:39.320 And pass protection because because it's this is a passing 0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:42.239 game now, yeah, and if its protect, you are not 0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:43.040 going to be on the field. 0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:46.480 And that's why I think that's something Tony Pollard really 0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:50.640 worked on this season that you can talk about. Yeah, 0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:53.680 he had a career low and rushing yards and yards 0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:56.120 per carry and blah blah blah. 0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:59.440 He was passed. Throwing his butt off out there. I'm sorry, 0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:01.400 And that's something you've seen out. 0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:03.520 Of Tony Pollard in years given you haven't had to 0:30:03.600 --> 0:30:04.959 because you had Ezekiel Elliett. 0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:05.600 I understand. 0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:08.640 But he also made it a point to talk to 0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:11.960 us even at training camp talking about wanting to work 0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:12.760 on his past. 0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:14.720 Pro and they changed up the past pros this year 0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:17.080 for the running backs. That was one of the changes. 0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:21.080 He was very stout, and I think even when you 0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:22.560 look at the pass pro and how much he did 0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:25.320 sacrifice his body, that wears on you. Sure it wears 0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:28.120 on you as the season goes on. Furthermore, there wasn't 0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:31.840 consistency behind him. Nope. So there wasn't early a committee, 0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:34.560 not a steady one, so he took a lot of 0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:36.880 the weight as opposed to you know, some of these 0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:39.440 other teams they've had, they had a committee, so their 0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:41.240 guys were more fresh towards the end of the season. 0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:43.480 And I also will say I'm glad that he said. 0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:46.520 I think it was I don't know what week was it. 0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:48.200 It was later in the season where he was like, 0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:52.400 he admitted, yeah, I'm starting to feel and you could 0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:54.440 see that in his place. You could see the burst 0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:54.840 from him. 0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:57.520 So you could see some he thought was inverted because 0:30:57.600 --> 0:30:59.040 usually you kind of lose. 0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:00.000 It as the season goes left. 0:31:00.000 --> 0:31:01.680 But it was different for him coming off the. 0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:06.840 In traumas to trust it to come back from crazy surprise. 0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:09.480 It's crazy that like a running back needs a healthy 0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:12.600 leg to be successful being a running back. 0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:13.200 That's wild. 0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:15.880 I would definitely bring him back. Also because of the 0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:19.440 scheme this. They implemented a whole new scheme last year 0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:22.240 for a youngin to come in here and have to 0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:25.120 pick up on a whole new scheme by himself. I believe, 0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:28.920 I mean Stevey's transitioning football. People say from running back 0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:33.200 from college to NFL. However, it's still a transition even 0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:35.400 to your point about the past bro and things like that. 0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:38.480 Having him come back could be beneficial. I hope that 0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:41.400 they pair him with one of these stumpers and when 0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:43.640 some of these guys, some of these rookie guys that 0:31:43.840 --> 0:31:46.640 can come in and be powerful in their run game. 0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:49.920 But I really need, and I've been saying on the 0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:53.120 Draft show, I don't care who's running the ball. Maybe 0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:56.920 we need to improve the run game scheme and efficiency 0:31:57.000 --> 0:31:59.760 and execution. That needs to be a point of emphasis 0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:02.760 this off season because a lot of why they weren't 0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:07.360 productive too was because it wasn't that creative. Sometimes. 0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:09.680 Also, did you say over there. 0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:11.840 TV if it wasn't that creative? Oh wow? 0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:12.240 Sometimes? 0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:15.960 Uh, Also, if you want to give Dak Prescott a 0:32:15.960 --> 0:32:18.719 shot at another MVP caliber season. 0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:20.440 You need a solid. 0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:25.000 You want a chance to get past that first round. Well, 0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:28.400 guess what you were missing in against Green Bay? 0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:29.560 A solid run game. 0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:33.000 But guess what we were talking about all season that 0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:36.480 was inconsistent. A solid run game and so everything. 0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:38.880 If you want it all to tie. 0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:41.280 Together with a pretty bow, get off, get over this 0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:43.560 thirty year hump and fix the culture. 0:32:43.600 --> 0:32:47.280 Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Look, you need 0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:51.600 to help your quarterback and giving him a run game. 0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:55.160 Look, especially if you if you want to play this 0:32:55.280 --> 0:32:59.480 game and not give him a contract extension, you want him. 0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:02.880 To play lights out, guess what he needs. It's almost 0:33:02.920 --> 0:33:08.320 like I'm gonna it's. 0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:11.720 It wasn't no play action, wasn't in the room with us. 0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:15.160 It's not a shade to Tony Pollard or Rico Dudel 0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:16.560 or anything they did. 0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:19.280 It was just the most. 0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:21.760 Unproductive scheme, especially when you're coming off of a one 0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:24.280 two punch. Here was Zeke and TP and you know 0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:28.480 what they're capable of doing, right, It's just whatever, fuck, 0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:29.760 I'm gonna get off my soapbox. 0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:32.720 I'm gonna start getting real, real mad. About these pray 0:33:32.800 --> 0:33:33.720 for a screen game. 0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:37.560 Pray Saints pray. Hey, okay, we've been praying for over 0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:38.160 thirty years. 0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:41.040 We're okay. You know what I thought, Lenae screen game 0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:43.480 was decent. It was, but it was but it was 0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:45.520 only to the right side though, ba we never did 0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:47.160 those greens to the live let me tell you something. 0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:50.840 All right, all right, okay, all right, let's hit our 0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:53.120 next break. When we come back, We're gonna talk a 0:33:53.120 --> 0:33:57.400 little Micah Parsons talk. 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You had a 0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:14.120 homework homework. 0:36:14.200 --> 0:36:17.279 Look that ask me deep stuff is literally in like 0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:19.720 ten minutes they talk about them, tail me murdy minutes. 0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:20.640 Maybe tell you more. 0:36:20.840 --> 0:36:21.680 This ain't the show for that. 0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:24.480 Look, you can watch the draft show. Our girl Ayisha 0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:25.560 Morrison is on there as well. 0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:26.720 I message you, guys. 0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:29.279 I'll message you guys back later on with what the 0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:30.279 players you asked me about. 0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:30.879 I'll tell you what. 0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:33.360 Starting on Girls Talk, Boys Talk, we'll start doing an 0:36:33.400 --> 0:36:35.080 Aisha draft segment because we. 0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:35.960 Had to do that last year. 0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:38.040 Absolutely, so we'll start that. 0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:38.919 We'll start that next. 0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:42.200 My popular demand, the people want, what the people want. 0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:46.480 To give the people what they want. Jesus, she loves you, guys, 0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:49.080 much pressure. We do have a. 0:36:49.080 --> 0:36:51.880 Question from another mic not not to be confused with 0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:54.279 other Mike who sent us a text earlier, and not 0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:56.720 to be confused with Mike McCarthy or Mike Zimmer. 0:36:56.880 --> 0:36:58.720 There's a lot of mics. Oh my goodness. 0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:01.319 All right, Well, Mike from boss and said, do you 0:37:01.440 --> 0:37:04.080 worry with all the coaches being on basically one year 0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:07.399 deals that maybe they'll make decisions they normally wouldn't make 0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:10.880 if they had more security, maybe on a big game 0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:15.719 decision where normally he made you one thing, but now 0:37:15.719 --> 0:37:19.160 you feel that pressure and makes a bit of a 0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:23.560 rash decision. That's a fantastic question, and it made me 0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:24.359 stop and think for. 0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:28.480 A second, what do you guys think. I'm gonna put 0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:29.960 this up for discussion end game? 0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:36.879 No, But in terms of depth, chart and player evaluation 0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:41.680 and draft, right, yeah, you know, the whole thing here 0:37:41.760 --> 0:37:44.560 is draft and developed draft, developed, draft and develop it. 0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:46.880 But when you're on a one year contract and you 0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:49.799 have a choice between an untested Brookie and a guy 0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:53.160 who's maybe been in your system before or certainly has 0:37:53.200 --> 0:37:58.440 some experience in the NFL, then who are you going 0:37:58.520 --> 0:37:59.000 to go with? 0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:04.680 Yeah? Yeah, they're gonna definitely feel a sense of urgency amazone. Yeah, 0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:08.280 you would hope for that they felt the sense of urgency, 0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:11.600 you know, I mean coaches coaching on one year deals 0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:14.480 always sounds like not so good. But I think some 0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:16.880 of these gentlemen might look at it, especially like a Zummer, 0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:19.680 like he hasn't coached in the NFL for a while, 0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:22.640 not a while, but just last year. But it's been 0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:23.000 a year. 0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:25.400 Yeah, yeahs a year or two minutes. 0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:28.400 Yeah so, but you know, like Eric Kendricks gets released 0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:33.200 by LA right and he played for years, they might 0:38:33.280 --> 0:38:35.960 like it was it Mike's son's funeral, you know, I 0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:39.480 mean he he You know that that would be an 0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:41.719 example upbringing in a guy like that. 0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:44.200 When you saw the dan Quinn wave of guys come in, 0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:46.080 I could see something similar. 0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:49.040 But but it's a great question, Mike, because it really is. 0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:52.400 But again, I just can't see it on game day. 0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:56.120 The other thing would be is if the season goes 0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:59.360 south for some reason, whether it's injuries or just sometime 0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:02.320 the ball done out your way towards the end of 0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:06.000 the year, are guys going to be putting lines out 0:39:06.080 --> 0:39:08.360 to try and you know, if they see the riding 0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:10.439 on the wall, will they be putting some lines out 0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:12.680 to see if maybe they can set something up for 0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:14.040 themselves to. 0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:15.560 Continue their NFL career. 0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:19.000 So that but that would be way, way way down 0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:22.600 the road. But I think more immediately it has to 0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:25.480 do with roster building. But the coaches do have an input. 0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:28.760 They don't have final say, but they do have input. 0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:31.760 And also in terms of who's getting the reps. 0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:35.640 Yeah, real quick, before we run out of time, I 0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:38.960 promised you guys that you couldn't blame the Cowboys for something. 0:39:39.960 --> 0:39:42.080 And let's talk about it. 0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:44.320 Because the Cowboys are picking up the fifth year option 0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:49.160 for Micah Parsons. This option is under defensive end, which 0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:53.440 is a two point seven million dollars less than a 0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:55.959 linebacker would be in the year twenty twenty five. Let's 0:39:55.960 --> 0:40:00.520 talk about it because that fifth year option, the position 0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:05.280 he's designated as, is not in fact determined by the Cowboys. 0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:08.600 Christy right, let's uh, let's open this up and let's 0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:10.960 put this to rest, because I keep seeing the arguments 0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:12.239 on Twitter and I'm sick of it. 0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:13.959 Yeah, well, it's have a good day today. 0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:14.759 Yeah, it's the league. 0:40:14.960 --> 0:40:18.120 They tally where you played the most, you know, at 0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:21.640 which position during the season he did play the vast 0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:27.200 majority of the season over eighty five percent at defensive end. So, uh, 0:40:27.600 --> 0:40:32.440 linebacker gets more. Uh, but that's because so many of 0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:36.920 the highest paid linebackers are the pass rushing linebackers, right that, 0:40:37.840 --> 0:40:40.400 you know, stand up, you know, pass rush off that 0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:43.640 the edge kind of thing. So edge rushers drives up 0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:49.600 the uh, you know, the average compared to defensive ends. 0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:54.759 So but but really that's ultimately determined by where you 0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:56.760 played the previous season. 0:40:57.120 --> 0:40:57.520 There you go. 0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:00.080 Are you sure? I don't have a whole lot to 0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:00.920 comments about it. 0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:04.120 But is he you know he is he an edge rusher? 0:41:04.520 --> 0:41:08.000 Yes? Did he himself an edge rushing line back? 0:41:08.600 --> 0:41:13.799 But he did it? I definitely. With this conversation and 0:41:13.920 --> 0:41:16.200 us knowing this, I'm very curious, especially with his contract 0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:18.040 comeing up next year, I'm curious to see how much 0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:22.920 he is going to play linebacker and zimc Zim's uh function, 0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:28.799 skip scheme offense man and how they operate and use 0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:30.920 him off ball and do some things as well. So 0:41:31.680 --> 0:41:33.759 I mean, yeah, he did he played mostly d and 0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:34.480 big bro. Yeah. 0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:37.239 But the other thing is how did they address defensive end? 0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:41.799 Especially if you lose Dolorrance Armstrong and Dante Fowler, it 0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:44.520 may not you know, find necessity. Yeah, and that's the 0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:47.760 thing it's going to be. It's all building the roster 0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:51.880 or injuries right at one spot. 0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:55.759 This is a tough draft to not number one not 0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:58.319 gotten a lot of production from your guys, your guys 0:41:58.360 --> 0:42:00.520 you drafted last year, and they know don't have that 0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:04.200 many picks. I'm praying and fast and that they do 0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:08.440 something to get a fourth round pick. But this is 0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:12.480 a they I feel like they're gonna need some stuff 0:42:12.960 --> 0:42:16.560 truly after this free agency, you know, kind of subsides 0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:19.560 and things. And you guys mentioned you just mentioned to 0:42:19.560 --> 0:42:23.960 two of the depth pieces for d N. Where else 0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:26.120 are they gonna find that? And so to me, I'm 0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:27.959 just I know a lot of people, even with Carl, 0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:31.759 they're like, why there resigning it? They need it if 0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:33.080 you look at the depth of the DT. 0:42:33.719 --> 0:42:37.760 Also Jonathan Hankins, he's technically gonna hit the market. 0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:40.279 Yeah, I mean, and he was a key part of this, 0:42:41.040 --> 0:42:42.719 key part of it. You saw what happened when he 0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:43.200 wasn't there. 0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:45.240 And are we counting on Mazie to make a second 0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:48.280 in your leap because it was an underwhelming rookie season. 0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:52.120 You need to can't You need you need him to. 0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:55.880 It's not a can we should, We know he needs to. 0:42:56.000 --> 0:42:57.520 I think you need to be planning. 0:42:57.640 --> 0:42:59.880 Like with the lack of depth, you need to you 0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:05.560 to be planning, Like christ you don't know, Harsh, you 0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:06.160 just don't. 0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:07.680 There's nothing to go off of. 0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:10.400 Truly, there's nothing to go off us off of for 0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:11.680 us to actually know. 0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:14.760 Yeah, the defensive front is something. Front seven is something 0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:17.640 that I think, Uh, these guys are gonna take very 0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:20.920 seriously in this draft upcoming. Yes you do one of 0:43:21.000 --> 0:43:25.160 like this wide receiver classes just through the roof might 0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:28.759 put them in some top some tough spots. I think 0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:31.359 obviously the tackle class is just through the roof at 0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:35.399 the top level. There's a lot of talent there, but 0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:37.040 it's I think it is going to be important for 0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:39.440 them to kind of look at d END and DT 0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:42.839 maybe later rounds and see if they can find some 0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:46.000 guys that can come in and be productive immediately. They 0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:49.640 need production from guys this draft class at least the 0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:51.160 top three immediately. 0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:54.160 My question for you, Christy, gave you some homework class 0:43:54.160 --> 0:43:56.279 week right when we were talking about the combine. We 0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:59.800 didn't really get to get into that discussion too much. However, 0:43:59.840 --> 0:44:04.120 for the last few minutes, let's have you uh reveal 0:44:04.160 --> 0:44:06.719 your your homework to the class and will give you 0:44:06.760 --> 0:44:09.040 a grade uh whenever we think. 0:44:08.840 --> 0:44:10.799 You did great. 0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:13.360 Now I'm gonna be I'm gonna be the harsh teacher. 0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:14.839 All right, I got a couple of guys. 0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:16.240 What are your notes from the combine? 0:44:16.280 --> 0:44:18.279 And who should the people keep an eye out for 0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:19.840 since they want to ask you draft questions? 0:44:19.880 --> 0:44:20.279 There you go. 0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:23.160 Honestly, these are these guys are a little random. I 0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:27.560 mean brayln Island from Wisconsin running back. He's not he's 0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:31.520 people know who he is. This guy's like a baby tank, y'all. 0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:34.880 And not like baby tank like DeMarcus Lawrence. Like he 0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:38.240 runs like a baby tank like. He's not that big 0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:42.600 in stature, but he runs really downhill and he's physical. 0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:46.759 He does have vision and foot quickness to cut back 0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:48.759 and follow lineman. He I think he does a good 0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:51.160 well a good job sitting on the lineman's hip and 0:44:51.160 --> 0:44:55.400 follow him through blocks. He doesn't possess a lot of 0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:59.319 lateral agility, so he's not jump cutting all crazy and 0:44:59.360 --> 0:45:01.520 doing all this up and just bounce into the outside. 0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:04.560 But when you when you when he runs, you feel him, 0:45:04.840 --> 0:45:05.840 you feel his presence. 0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:09.080 He's powerful so short yardage shortage. 0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:12.320 Yes, he does have some some some good topping speed, 0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:15.719 and he can explode through contact as well. This is 0:45:15.719 --> 0:45:18.759 a guy that constantly is falling forward and us. 0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:19.560 Yes. 0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:23.080 He I think he plays with just enough patience, just 0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:26.520 enough patience to allow things to open up in form, 0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:28.640 because sometimes you see guys in the running backs where you're 0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:32.239 just like, go now, you wait too long. No, I 0:45:32.280 --> 0:45:35.120 think he's just patient enough to get some production there. 0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:38.200 I think guys would just get tired of tackling his ass. 0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:40.840 They like he he is one of those gentlemen, and 0:45:40.880 --> 0:45:43.239 he's a tank. A lot of the conversation of the 0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:49.480 combine was like, this guy is just built, like yeah, yeah, 0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:55.800 I think he's Yeah, he's like thick legs and very. 0:45:55.680 --> 0:45:58.280 Thick sounds familiar, very sick stature. 0:45:58.360 --> 0:45:59.839 I don't know why I did not right. 0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:02.359 Now, that's all right, but stout thick. 0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:05.120 Yes, absolutely, he's six. 0:46:07.600 --> 0:46:11.280 Yes, Wow, that's bigger than a lot of linebackers. 0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:14.839 So he's just a I think this is a guy. 0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:16.640 I don't know how high he's gonna go. He did 0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:19.560 not run his forty at the combine, which again, if 0:46:19.680 --> 0:46:21.680 these guys show, some of these gentlemen like to just 0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:25.040 do their Prota workouts and go about their business. But 0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:27.160 I think that's going to be important seeing what his 0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:29.200 forty is. But if you look at the tape, he's 0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:33.040 just a punishing guy with some explosiveness and the ability 0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:34.880 to get to the second level and do some things. 0:46:34.880 --> 0:46:36.719 But I just think he's one of those gentlemen that 0:46:37.400 --> 0:46:39.319 you can hit him with your speedback and then when 0:46:39.360 --> 0:46:40.920 you hit him with this guy, they're gonna be like 0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:44.160 bro sit him down, like people are going to try 0:46:44.160 --> 0:46:46.360 to take advantage of when he is not on the field. 0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:49.319 Second guy got listen. One thing that I think that 0:46:49.520 --> 0:46:52.000 I think was underrated last year, and we didn't talk 0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:55.280 about enough with special teams and how special teams covered 0:46:55.360 --> 0:46:59.200 suffered when C. J. Goodwin got hurt and that there 0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:01.080 was just some issue there and cover there was some 0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:05.399 issue there with returns. Gentleman that was at the at 0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:09.880 the what was it the Shrine Bowl, Steel Chambers Lionbacker. 0:47:10.960 --> 0:47:13.919 I was able to speak to him briefly and get 0:47:13.920 --> 0:47:16.840 to know him. He's a hell of a personality. You 0:47:16.880 --> 0:47:19.719 see him with his bandana's line and all his his 0:47:19.800 --> 0:47:22.640 sleeves and all this stuff. He's very expressive. A lot 0:47:22.719 --> 0:47:24.960 of people talked about at the combine just how much 0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:26.919 of a personality is and how he's gonna win you over. 0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:29.920 But this dude, he might be friendly out there, but 0:47:30.080 --> 0:47:32.239 when he's on the field, he's a hard hitter. He's 0:47:32.239 --> 0:47:37.080 still learning the linebacker position because he's a former running back. Interesting, 0:47:37.080 --> 0:47:40.399 which is insane, but he is. He's he's a former 0:47:40.520 --> 0:47:41.000 running back. 0:47:41.120 --> 0:47:43.440 I bet, I bet he can diagnose plays, and it's 0:47:43.520 --> 0:47:45.240 a way that's different from other guys. 0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:46.759 He only played defense. 0:47:46.560 --> 0:47:51.719 Yes, like he can't. He's six six two, so he 0:47:51.760 --> 0:47:52.280 has good. 0:47:52.160 --> 0:47:55.280 Side so smaller than the guy he's tackling. Yeah, rookie can't. 0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:56.840 So I didn't tackle. 0:47:57.000 --> 0:47:59.000 So I think any team that brings him in is 0:47:59.040 --> 0:48:01.600 gonna have to help him develop and things like that. 0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:06.600 He has a high moor motor. He's a decisive, physical tackler, 0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:09.719 and he's also has like a relentless pursuit. Again, I 0:48:09.760 --> 0:48:11.759 think that's gonna come in handy with special teams. I 0:48:11.760 --> 0:48:14.360 think this guy, of course, you want him to eventually 0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:16.239 play linebacker and be able to play the game. I 0:48:16.280 --> 0:48:18.280 definitely think he can. He has a lot of quickness, 0:48:18.280 --> 0:48:20.600 the process and all that stuff. But man, as a 0:48:20.600 --> 0:48:23.640 special teams player, he could be your ace. He could 0:48:23.680 --> 0:48:25.360 be your he could be your gunner. I think he 0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:27.640 could be a difference maker or even like a personal protector. 0:48:27.680 --> 0:48:30.560 I think he could be a key position for a 0:48:30.600 --> 0:48:33.600 team special for a special teams player, because he's just 0:48:33.760 --> 0:48:36.480 heavy enough to be forceful, but just light enough to 0:48:36.480 --> 0:48:38.759 be able to run and move and things like that. 0:48:38.880 --> 0:48:41.360 So so what DeMar Von Overshown was supposed to be 0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:43.040 last season before he got injured. 0:48:43.120 --> 0:48:46.440 Ohio State. By the way, Ohio State still Chambers linebacker 0:48:46.440 --> 0:48:51.399 out of Ohio State. Interesting player, good, that's what we want. 0:48:51.440 --> 0:48:54.359 We want nuggets and the you know players that we did, 0:48:54.360 --> 0:48:55.160 and he should be. 0:48:55.080 --> 0:48:57.719 There in the later rounds. I think he's not. He's 0:48:57.719 --> 0:49:00.640 not gonna go super high. He's not, but people who 0:49:00.719 --> 0:49:02.799 get them, this is a fiery player, and I think 0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:04.799 he can immediately make your special teams better. 0:49:04.840 --> 0:49:08.520 And the kind of personality that would I would love 0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:09.320 him some bones. 0:49:09.800 --> 0:49:13.239 Oh I love him some bones death. But I think 0:49:13.280 --> 0:49:16.040 they need that help. I think special teams took a 0:49:16.040 --> 0:49:17.040 step back last year. 0:49:17.120 --> 0:49:19.960 Also, it had to because of all the shifting all 0:49:19.960 --> 0:49:22.319 of the injuries did on special teams, so people were 0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:25.680 playing positions that they've never played before and they're learning 0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:26.200 on the spot. 0:49:26.239 --> 0:49:28.360 And this time next week we may be having a 0:49:28.400 --> 0:49:31.760 conversation about changes in the kickoffs and so special teams 0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:35.759 could be really, really key because kickoffs are coming back 0:49:35.800 --> 0:49:39.719 in the NFL if the owners vote for some of 0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:42.120 these things that John Fossil has been presenting to the 0:49:42.120 --> 0:49:43.200 competition committee. 0:49:43.239 --> 0:49:46.359 All right, guys, well, our time is up here. I 0:49:46.400 --> 0:49:49.760 appreciate you ladies so so much. 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