1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: On the Jordan Harbinger Show, You'll hear amazing stories from 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: people that have lived them, from spies to CEOs, even 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: an undercover agent who infiltrated the Gambino crime family. You're 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: about to hear a preview of The Jordan Harbinger Show 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: with Jack Garcia, who did just that. My career was 6 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: twenty four out of twenty six years was solely dedicated 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: working on the cover. I walk in, I'm in the bar. 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: How there's a bar made? Dare good looking young lady 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: see serving me? Joey, Hey, what would you like? I 10 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: usually my frank was give me a kettle, one martini, 11 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: three olives, class of water on the side. I finished 12 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: the drink. The guys come in. I'm gonna go go 13 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: in my pocket, take out the big wad of money. Hey, am, 14 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: I give her one hundred hours. If you're with the mob, 15 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: I say, hey, Jordan, you're on record with us. That 16 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: means we protect you. Nobody could shake you down. We 17 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: could shake you down. Oh, you're on record with us. 18 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: For more on how Jack became so trusted in the 19 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: highest levels of the Gambino organization, check out episode three 20 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: ninety two of the Jordan Harbinger Show. This is the 21 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Show. I have some very good news and 22 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: some very bad news. The good news is this, we're 23 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,839 Speaker 1: going to be talking about kind of a fall of Rome, 24 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: fall of the Eastern Roman Empire, Attila, the hun thing today. 25 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: That's good news, right, It's gonna be cool. Barbarians and 26 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: Romans and sacking of cities and refugees and all kinds 27 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: of societal questions we can dig into today. It's gonna 28 00:01:55,560 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: be awesome. That's good news. More good news. This is 29 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: a rarity for me. I think I've only ever done 30 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 1: this once forever. I think it's gonna be a two parter. 31 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: I just don't think I can fit the whole thing 32 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: into today. I don't really like to go over an hour, 33 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: although I sometimes do on the history portion before we 34 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: move on to politics. So I think it's gonna be 35 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: a two parter. More good news. I know you like that. 36 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: You loved it last time I did it. Here's the 37 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: bad news. I may, simply because I'm a bad person, 38 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: no other reason whatsoever, I may push the second part 39 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: of this so Monday instead of tomorrow. I'm not even kidding. 40 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: I'm not even kidding. I'm that kind of an awful 41 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: human being where I'm going to do a two part 42 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: history segment and I'm gonna split it over the weekend 43 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: and play the second part for you Monday, only to 44 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: make you angry. I don't have more of a reason 45 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: than that, except this is how God made me. We 46 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: all have gifts. You have them, I promise, I promise 47 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: He gave you some gifts. I don't have many. But 48 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: I'm very good at aggravating people. I use that and 49 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: abuse that to aggravate you. Chris just asked if that's 50 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: something I should be proud of. No. Probably not. But again, 51 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: it's not like I have a laundry list of skills here. 52 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: I only have a few. I might as well do 53 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: it well. Right, let us let us begin, Let us 54 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: dig in who house Mabel? Get all the way through 55 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: this thing today. Maybe you'll get lucky. I cannot promise 56 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: that at all. Let's just let's just say, to put 57 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: it mildly, I don't really air fingers quote planned things. 58 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: They come as they come. Now, where are we in 59 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: the ancient Roman times? This is the late Roman Empire. 60 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: We're talking the three hundreds, the four hundreds. After a 61 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: d three hundreds, four hundreds. We are long long past 62 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: the days of Julius Caesar and all these types. Rome 63 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: at this point in time is two different nations, two 64 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: different empires. When Rome started to get late, they split 65 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: into an Eastern Roman Empire in a Western in Roman Empire. 66 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: It was ugly. They decided the only way they could 67 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: continue to exist was to have a divorce. Ended up 68 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: being extremely successful for one of them, ended up being 69 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: a complete disaster for the other one. However, when nations 70 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: grow apart, it is not uncommon for nations to divorce 71 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: when they find themselves having different sets of values. That 72 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: is not uncommon, that is not radical. That is the 73 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: history of the world. Nations rise, nations fall, Nations split 74 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: down the middle, little portions of nations will break up. 75 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: That's how history works. That's how life works. Content wink wink, 76 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: that's how it worked. By now, the Western Roman Empire 77 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: at this time, you need to be thinking about, well, 78 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: Rome itself. Obviously, they have Rome, Italy, they have France, Britain, 79 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: which by this point is gaul in Britain anyway, that's 80 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: the Western Roman Empire. The Eastern Roman Empire ended up 81 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: being the one that would live on for a long 82 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: time after this as the Byzantine Empire. They have Turkey, Egypts, 83 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: all that stuff. The Eastern Roman Empire is a Christian empire. 84 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: By this point in time. They pass something called the 85 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: Edict of Milan and three thirteen officially recognizing Christianity. And wow, 86 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: how times have changed. The empire that presided over the 87 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: crucifixion of Jesus Christ has now moved on to Christianity. 88 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: How about that they're not killing them in the arena anymore? 89 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: Up yours. Chris made a comeback. What everybody, we can 90 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: joke here, what Christianity made a comeback. That's the good news. 91 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: Got the Eastern Empire, got the Western Empire. Now we're 92 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: still dealing with emperors. Senates still exist, but very much 93 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: these are emperor driven empires. There's one in the East 94 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: and there's one in the West. Something starts to happen 95 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: because they are split, and because Rome they're figuring out 96 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: their way forward, and they are not, by any stretch 97 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: of the imagination, at the peak of their military power. 98 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: They're poorer than they used to be monetarily, they're poorer culturally, 99 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: and a lot of different ways that former aspirational Roman way, 100 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: go out there, accomplish something dominates. Somebody come up with 101 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: a canow engineering thing. That Rome is gone. They know 102 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: that Rome is gone. Many want it back. Many say 103 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: things like our best days are in front of us. 104 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 1: Have you ever heard somebody say something like that, even 105 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: here in America? But it's all garbage, and they know 106 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: it's garbage. They just don't have that anymore. They are militarily, 107 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: especially now, a defensive country. They are not out there 108 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: conquering other people's now, not on a regular basis, small 109 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: scale stuff, but they are losing control of territory they 110 00:08:52,040 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: previously held. Culturally, they're scared. When you look at the 111 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: overall things they wrote, things they were doing, it's easy 112 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: to look at it from a thirty thousand foot view 113 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: and say that's a nation scared. They're building heavy fortifications 114 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: along their borders everywhere. They're worried about this. They're worried 115 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: about that frightened people, and they're about to get a 116 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: lot more frightened because in the year three seventy six 117 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: they have an issue with the Goths. Pay attention, We're 118 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: gonna be talking more about the Goths. And no, I 119 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: don't mean your weird neighbor who has black lipstick on 120 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: and hasn't seen the sunshine in two hundred years. The 121 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: Goths are a barbaric people. Barbaric meaning they're not in 122 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: you know, they're not building Roman aqueducts and living in 123 00:09:55,880 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: white marble things. They're nomadic out on the plains. Just 124 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: eat different than Romans, bath different than Romans, different traditions 125 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: than Romans, and certainly technologically at least not as advanced 126 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: as the Roman Empire. Goths are known to be fierce warriors, 127 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 1: as many of the barbarian people's were. You remember all 128 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: the trouble the Romans have had with Gauls and Germans 129 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: and such, and something happens with the Goths that creeps 130 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: the Romans out badly, and it should hang on follow 131 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: like a subscribe on social At Jesse Kelly's show, you 132 00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: really do need a home security system, you do. It's 133 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: a dangerous world. It is a dangerous world. I see 134 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: the news every single day. I know you do too. 135 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: Break Ins happen. They happen when you're home, they happen 136 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: when you're not home, and you need one. 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That's simply safe dot com slash jesse. 146 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: This is a Jesse Kelly show. Like a stain on 147 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: your brain, can't get out. The Romans are very aware 148 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 1: of the Goths. They've fought the Goths. They've fought with 149 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: the Goths. They've They're very aware of these people, and 150 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: they know these people to be fierce warriors. They know 151 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: this right. One day, the Romans wake up and look 152 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: out and they see eighty thousand Goths, men, women and 153 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: children amassing on the river right next to the Roman Empire. Obviously, 154 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: the Romans are a little disconcerted about this, so they 155 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: go out and check in with the Goths and they're all, 156 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: what do you people think you're doing? And it turns 157 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:07,840 Speaker 1: out the Goths aren't here to take over. The Goths 158 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 1: are fleeing something. Now, the Romans are obviously a bit concerned. 159 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: What wait, you're fleeing something. It turns out there's something rising, 160 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: something pushing these people away where they're fleeing for their lives, 161 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: and Romans are understandably concerned with what in the world 162 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: would possibly push these people out like that. Now this 163 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: is late stage Roman Empire, and the Romans actually do 164 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: have a decision to make. What do we do? You 165 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: have eighty thousand refugees on your border. How are we 166 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: supposed to handle this? I think we all know what 167 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: the old Roman Empire would have done, because we saw, 168 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: we had witness to what the old Roman Empire would 169 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: have done. It was more than once the old Roman 170 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: Empire back in you know Caesar's time, roughly they had 171 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: gaul and Germania. There were tribes that would come down 172 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: and push into Rome fleeing a megapowerful, vicious tribe that 173 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: rose up. The Romans would reject him or flat out 174 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: go up there and kill them all. You're not coming 175 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: in here, you can't. Yeah, that's gonna be a no, 176 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: absolutely not. I'm not gonna fill our country with a 177 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: bunch of non Romans get lost. But this is a 178 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: new Rome one they don't necessarily possess the military strength 179 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: to do that in even if they do. This is 180 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: a again more Christianized empire. Nations set their foreign and 181 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: domestic policy on their religious beliefs, and no, I do 182 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: not care if you're not a religious person. That's still 183 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: a fact of life throughout history. Any empire, any nation 184 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: has a religious base of some kind of religion, and 185 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: it plays a huge role in the things that nation 186 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: does as a whole. We've talked endlessly about the well, gosh, 187 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: everybody now but the Aztecs. On this show, how many 188 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: times we talked about the Aztecs and how the Aztecs 189 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: would constantly invade the neighboring tribes, take a whole bunch 190 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: of captives, then come back and sacrifice those captives alive 191 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: on an altar, carving their hearts out of their chests. 192 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: Children too, lots of them, And you and I look 193 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: at that understandably and were horrified. I mean, just a barbaric, 194 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: horrific culture. However, if you have to give some kind 195 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: of defense of the Aztecs that did it, they didn't 196 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: do it just for jolly's although I'm sure some of 197 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: them liked it. That's what their religion told them they 198 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: had to do. They were sacrificing these people to their 199 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: various gods. I want it to raigne. I don't want 200 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: a tornado. I want this. I want success in war. 201 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: Religions determine things, and when you have become a Christianized, 202 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: or at least more christian nation, it gets more difficult 203 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: to look at eighty thousand people and slaughter them all, 204 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: and it gets a lot more And it's also difficult 205 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: to look at them and say, hey, go pound sand. However, 206 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to act like Rome was a big 207 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: convent of nuns at this point. They were still Rome 208 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: with a lot of influences beyond Christianity. So they get 209 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: to thinking, well, all right, we're gonna let you in. 210 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to stop here on the other side 211 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: of the river. Stop here in this camp. We will 212 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: work you into our society. We'll get you across the river. 213 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: We'll get you in. Come on, just hank tough, we'll 214 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: handle the ferries across the river. We'll decide who's going where. 215 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna do this slow, well, here's the problem. Rome 216 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: lacks the organizational ability it used to have, and this 217 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: process is going way too slow for the Goths, who 218 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,239 Speaker 1: are parked on the river with what they believe is 219 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: a deadly force bearing down on them. The Goths start 220 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: crossing the river on their own, something times, getting killed 221 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: by the Romans for doing it, sometimes drowning in the river. 222 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: The Goth camps looked a lot like refugee camps to 223 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: this day. The sanitary situation is an absolute nightmare. They 224 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: talk about it, they write about it, the Romans do 225 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 1: you and I don't think about this much, and I 226 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: don't like to dwell on it much because, let's be honest, 227 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: it's gross. It's not great radio. It doesn't do what 228 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: I always want to do and make your drive to 229 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: work more enjoyable. But we should discuss this for a moment, 230 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: because it is a part of history that we never 231 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: think of it. We should probably think of it. I'm 232 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: talking about poop. You have eighty thousand people in an 233 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 1: unsettled society that was relatively barbaric before they got there. 234 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: Now they're in a refugee camp. Where does all that go? 235 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: How they handle it? It has to be handled it 236 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: has to be handled. It does. It's a part of 237 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: a society. And if it's not handled right, the human 238 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: waste portion, what do you get disease, lots of it. 239 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: It spreads like wildfire. Conditions get bad. You can see 240 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: sadly societies like this today that have open sewers running 241 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: through them. They don't have proper sanitation, they haven't mastered it. 242 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: It's I'm sorry, this is the last I'm gonna talk 243 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: about this today. But it's dumping a bucket full of 244 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: the family's waste into the open ditch that flows down 245 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: the street in your village. This happens in the world today. Now, 246 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: picture eighty thousand people going through that, and these are barbarians, 247 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 1: as you can imagine. They're used to hunting for their food. 248 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 1: You cannot possibly settle eighty thousand people in one area 249 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: and hunt and feed everyone. So the Romans kind of 250 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: try to do the right thing, kind of don't and 251 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: start bringing in carts of food. They're not bringing enough 252 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: to feed everyone. People start not only dying of disease 253 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: from the sanitation situation, dying of disease because they're malnourished. 254 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 1: You have a real refugee crisis on your hands, and really, sadly, 255 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: who always pays the highest price in a refugee crisis 256 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: like this? Life is cruel, Life is unfair. And the 257 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: truth is this, Women and children have a tough time 258 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: during times like this, tougher than the men. Parents began 259 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: selling their kids to Romans as slaves for food. You 260 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: want to talk about the hard, hard choices, Imagine selling 261 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: your child to go be a slave for the rest 262 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: of his or her life just so they can eat 263 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: and you can eat. What's the hardest decision you've ever 264 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: had to marry? You know what I did on the 265 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: way to work today. This is amazing. I had It's 266 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: a long story, but I had to get a taxi 267 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: to work today. Don't worry, I didn't do anything wrong. 268 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: I'm just not going to go into the whole thing. 269 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: But I still wanted to listen to my music. I 270 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: like to relax in the mornings when I'm on the 271 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: way to the studio. Not a problem. I took my 272 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: wee little raycon E twenty five earbuds case and slipped 273 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: it right in my pocket. It's just a tiny little case. 274 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: Got in the cab, pulled out my Raycon earbuds, slipped 275 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 1: them in my ears and laid back and closed my 276 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: eyes and jammed out the entire way to work. Completely comfortable, 277 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: wonderful sound, great experience. These Raycon earbuds are the best 278 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: I've ever had, and they're totally wireless. Go get yourself 279 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: some by Raycon dot com slash jesse. That's by Raycon 280 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: dot com slash jesse. That's fifteen percent off for you. 281 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: Eight seven seven three seven seven four three seven three 282 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: is the number. Eight seven seven three seven seven four 283 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: three seven three. Well, the Romans, they're trying to work 284 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: these goths into society, as I said, they're trying to 285 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 1: feed them, get them in, and they're trying to work 286 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: them into the military. Roman military strength is weak, to 287 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: put it mildly, they've decided they're going to start hiring 288 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 1: the help. Generally, a pretty bad strategy for a nation. 289 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: When you find yourself relying on mercenaries. It's not good. 290 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: It's really not a good society to be in at 291 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: the time. But they do. And eventually a man named Fritigern, 292 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: one of the barbarians, has had just about enough of 293 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: this crap, and he takes a whole lot of Goths, 294 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: and he decides it's on now. They're going to fight 295 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: the Romans. The Romans. The Eastern Roman Empire says, oh, 296 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: all right, well, well we're gonna have to handle this. 297 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: Let's gather our Roman army such a such as it 298 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: is easier for me to say, and let's go after 299 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: these guys. But the Rome is aware at this point 300 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: they're not doing great militarily. So the Eastern Roman Empire 301 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 1: picks up the phone, dials up the Western Roman Empire 302 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 1: and says, would you mind coming to help? Again? They're split, 303 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: but there's still obviously a kinship there, as there would be. 304 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: They they're split, they do fight each other on occasion 305 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: kind of, but they're really allies, old brothers, you know. 306 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: Western Roman Empire says, absolutely, we will help. It's just 307 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: gonna take us a while. Now. They weren't really being jerks. 308 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: The Western Roman Empire, as we'll get to in a second, 309 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: is really really coming apart of the seams badly. Eastern 310 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: Roman Empire decides, well, we're not going to wait around 311 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: for this. We are Romans. Let's go get the glory 312 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: of putting down Fritigern and his group of barbarians. Only 313 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: the problem for Rome is this these barbarians, Fritigern and others. 314 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: They're not unaware of Roman tactics anymore. They're not unaware 315 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: of Roman discipline anymore. Romans have brought them in several 316 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: times to work with them. There's all kinds of knowledge 317 00:25:55,480 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: at this point on how Romans do war, and not 318 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: that I really can think they were ever this way, 319 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 1: but the idiot barbarian leader is gone. Now. These guys 320 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: are advancing tactically. Let's learn from the Romans. Let's learn 321 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: what they do, Let's copy some of what they do, 322 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: Let's prepare for what they do. The Romans marched to 323 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: war and they're heading towards what's known throughout history is 324 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: the Battle of Adannople. Big Roman army ten twenty thousand. Again, 325 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: you can never ever ever figure out how much big 326 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: barbarian army, but the Romans are fairly confident in victory. Again, 327 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: Rome maybe a different Rome than it was, but that 328 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: good old fashioned Roman arrogance was most definitely still there. 329 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: We are still Rome and you are not. You can 330 00:26:55,240 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 1: find Romans to this day Italians Romans to this day 331 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: still a little bit upty about the fact that we 332 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: are Rome. And you know what, when your country's history 333 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: is the greatest empire of all time, you can do that, 334 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: I guess. But it can also get you in a 335 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: little bit of trouble, and this time it did. They're 336 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: marching to battle, but the Barbarians have long ago realized 337 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: the way to defeat Roman armies is not strip off 338 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: all your clothes and run screaming like a madman into 339 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: the Roman legions spears. You can fight, really, really bravely 340 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: for about fifteen seconds until there's a spear through your heart. 341 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: And then all that yelling and screaming and bravery, what 342 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 1: did it actually gain you? Not a dag gone thing. 343 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: Why don't surprise, surprise? Why don't we fortify things a 344 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: little bits? Why don't we seize the high ground a 345 00:27:55,480 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 1: little bit? Things Romans had been doing to them for years. 346 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 1: The Barbarians had even hired a few huns. Maybe you've 347 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: heard of them. If you haven't, let's take a gist. 348 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: A brief side note here. The Huns are an Asian 349 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: step people entirely on horseback. You need to think Mongols 350 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: only were like a thousand years before the Mongols rose. 351 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: These are These are the early Mongols. But to hear 352 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: the Romans tell it, and you don't know whether this 353 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: is accurate or not, but to hear the Romans tell it, 354 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: these guys were wild, even for Mongols. According to the Romans, 355 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: these guys did not have even huts they put up. 356 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: They just slept on the ground eight raw animals. And 357 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: Romans were horrified by this. You can go to well, shoot, 358 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: let's talk about the Mongols for a moment. They were 359 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: extremely civilized set old societies in Mongol times too, like 360 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: the Middle East and China especially, and these civilized settled 361 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: societies used to talk about how horrified they were watching 362 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: the Mongols eat raw meat. The Mongols would eat the 363 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: raw guts of something something you and I would never 364 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: do because of all the you know, acid and things 365 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: like that in there, and that's where that's where the 366 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: body processes the food and turns it into something else. 367 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: It's it's gross. Any hunter listening now, any fisherman listening 368 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: now knows the first thing you do after a kill 369 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: you're gonna eat is get the guts and stuff out 370 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: of it. Mongols would sit down at a table and 371 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: just slap a pile of guts on there and start 372 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: eating it raw, horrifying the huns did that time's ten 373 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: and the Huns were these fierce warriors and fritigern in 374 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: the barbarian they hire some huns, because these guys live 375 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: and die on horseback the way the Mongols did. These 376 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: guys perfected horse archery the way the Mongols did. The 377 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: Romans march into battle and they find the Barbarians are 378 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: not only up on a hill where they've seized the 379 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: high ground. The barbarians are up on a hill and 380 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: they have wagons, and they've joined the wagons in a 381 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: big circle like a fort. And the Romans are having 382 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: a difficult time of things. Why well, we talk about 383 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: the non sexy parts of war here, fatigue, dehydration. It's 384 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: the summertime. It's hot. The Romans have marched for a 385 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: long time. They do not have enough water. They're tired, 386 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: they're thirsty, are marching towards this barbarian held hill and 387 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,719 Speaker 1: the Barbarians, remember how I told you, they've advanced tactically. 388 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: The Barbarians have lit fires all over the path where 389 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: the Romans are coming. So it's not only dusty and 390 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: dry and hot, it's now smokey what's the driest mouth 391 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: you've ever had. Imagine going into battle like that. Romans 392 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: have infantry, Romans have cavalry. Romans finally decide to send 393 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: their cavalry up this barbarian hill because they want to 394 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: find out what's up there. For one and two, they 395 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: are just barbarians, after all. Our cavalry is just going 396 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: to ride up the hill and ride them down like 397 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: grass and run them out of there. I really wouldn't 398 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: mind the day off. Cavalry go get it. Probably a 399 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: really good feeling. Right you're in the infantry, spear in 400 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: your hand. I'm sure nerves a little shaky. You've ever 401 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: been in a spear fight or sword fight. 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The Roman army was virtually annihilated that day 427 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: because they saw the cavalry riding back towards them and 428 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 1: absolutely panicked the world itself hadn't seen a Roman army 429 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: annihilated like that. Shoot in centuries really and there are 430 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: a lot of people who say this was a huge 431 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: turning point, a huge notch in the belt for what 432 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: brought down the Roman Empire. It sent a huge signal 433 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: to the world. These guys are soft. Now understand this. 434 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: The world is always watching. There are predators always circling, watching, 435 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: looking for prey. When you send signals out there to 436 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: the world that you're soft, it matters. It costs lives 437 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: big time. Remember that things go really poorly for Rome 438 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: after the Battle about Anople. The Western Empire by now, 439 00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,240 Speaker 1: remember I told you things were things were going poorly. 440 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: The Western Empire is flat out breaking up at this 441 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: point time Gaul, which is France. Remember Caesar's conquest of Gaul. 442 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: We've talked about it before on the show. We'll talk 443 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 1: about it again. Gall breaks away, Britain breaks away. Western 444 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 1: Empire is shrinking. Only now there's another problem. Those Huns 445 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: who chased all those Goth refugees into Rome. The Huns 446 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: are starting to work their way into the Roman Empire. 447 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 1: And Rome does not have an army that is equipped 448 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 1: to deal with the Huns. So what do you do? Well, 449 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,439 Speaker 1: Rome comes up with what it thinks is a wonderful plan. Well, 450 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: we've had all these problems with the Goths, they've slapped 451 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: us around a few times. Why don't we simply hire 452 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: the Goths under a man named Alaric, remember that name. 453 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 1: Romans obviously produce some troops, but they have the Goths 454 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: go out there and take it to the Huns. And 455 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: they do. But Rome really really really screws the Goths 456 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: during this fight. And here's what I mean by that. 457 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: The Goths are not Romans, They're hired mercenaries to fight 458 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:36,839 Speaker 1: against these people. The Roman leadership, either intentionally or otherwise 459 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,479 Speaker 1: tossed the Goths into the heart of this the tip 460 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: of the spear, and not only tossed them into the 461 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: tip of the spear, at least to Alaric and the Goths, 462 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: it looked like they intentionally had them killed because the 463 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 1: Romans didn't really back them up at first, which can 464 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: create some animosity, as you can imagine, can really create 465 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: some animosity. Alaric is understandably furious at this point in time. 466 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 1: He gets screwed over bad. Then the Romans decide they 467 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: have to deal with this man named Alaric, and they 468 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 1: start trying to do treaties with them but trying to 469 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: screw him over while they're doing treaties with him. And 470 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: you need to understand Alaric is well aware of the 471 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: Roman ways, well aware of the Roman ways. He's not 472 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,959 Speaker 1: having any of this. Also, I should mention at this point, 473 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: remember the refugees before that came pouring in because of 474 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: those scary Huns. More of them came pouring in, goss 475 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: and vandals saying the Huns are coming. The Huns are coming. 476 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 1: Romans now now they're really freaked out. The Western Roman 477 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: Empire that's crumbling. They're so nervous about the Goths and 478 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: the Goth presence in their lands. They order the Goths 479 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: to be killed men, women, and children. Only that's a 480 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,919 Speaker 1: problem because half the Roman army is Goths. They order 481 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: the murder of their own troops. Alaric freaks. Alaric decides 482 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 1: to march to Rome and in the year four ten, 483 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 1: Alaric came knocking on the gates of Rome, begins negotiating 484 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 1: with the Roman Senate and essentially tells the Roman Senate, 485 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: I want all the gold in Rome, personal gold, state 486 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: held gold. I want everything of value in your city. 487 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,240 Speaker 1: And the senate says, well, if you want everything of value, 488 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:04,359 Speaker 1: then what are negotiating? And Alaric says, I'll allow you 489 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 1: to live. Hang on. EBB sleep is well life changing. 490 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: It is that important. 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However, symbolically, as you 510 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: can imagine, it was everything to them. What is going 511 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,800 Speaker 1: through your mind as a Roman senator when you look 512 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: out at an army you can't fight off. You know 513 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:14,879 Speaker 1: you're about to lose Rome. That has to be man. 514 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: How do you wrap your mind around that? How do 515 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,360 Speaker 1: you wrap your mind around it? As an American? You me, 516 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 1: what if the barbarians come to our gates and we're 517 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: not strong enough to fight them off? A different existence 518 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:34,080 Speaker 1: than you've ever known? It would be the shock of 519 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: it may outweigh the fear. Just how did that happen? 520 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: How did we get here? But Alaric, well, Alaric makes 521 00:42:45,600 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 1: it inside those city gates. Hang um. Jesse Kelly returns next. 522 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:50,360 Speaker 1: This is the Jesse Kelly Show. Alaric storms into Rome. 523 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 1: Alaric pillage's Rome. But it's actually funny and as one 524 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: of the ironies of history go for all the Roman 525 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: sea jing and sacking and ransacking and raising cities to 526 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 1: the ground, raping, pillaging, Alaric actually doesn't do Rome that 527 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: much harm. He really just stormed in and did exactly 528 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: what he said he was going to do. He took 529 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 1: everything of value, picked the city clean, then let it go. 530 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 1: Kind of sad, right, an end of an era. It's 531 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 1: not as if Rome ceased to exist after this, but man, 532 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: it was bad. Back to the Huns. The Huns are 533 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 1: interesting because I see so many similarities between them and 534 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 1: the Mongols. And one thing the Chinese always did with 535 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 1: the Mongols, one thing they knew they had to do 536 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 1: with the Mongols was this. They knew these people were 537 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 1: unbelievably capable fighters. We must keep them divided, was always 538 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: the Chinese philosophy when it came to the Mongols. Do 539 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,320 Speaker 1: whatever you have to do. Make sure this tribe's fighting, 540 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,879 Speaker 1: this tribe, bribe, threaten, bring them in. As long as 541 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 1: they're divided, we're fine. If they ever unify, oh boy 542 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,160 Speaker 1: are we in trouble. And boy did the Chinese get 543 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 1: that right. It was the exact same thing with the Huns. 544 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 1: These people were ferocious, They loved war, they loved pillaging, 545 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 1: they were outstanding at it. The mobility of the horse 546 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 1: archer system was it just created nightmares for people, absolute nightmares, 547 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 1: especially when they have not just a bow on there. 548 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,840 Speaker 1: They have a composite bow, and I'm not going to 549 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,799 Speaker 1: break down all the things that make it a composite bow. 550 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:05,800 Speaker 1: But you just need to understand this, as crass Is 551 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 1: found out long ago when he fought the Ptarthians. These 552 00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 1: are not just bows. These are supremely powerful bows, more 553 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 1: powerful than the Romans could ever dream of with thick, 554 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 1: strong arrows. And that matters because it penetrates Roman shields, 555 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: It penetrates Roman armor. You can't just sit there in 556 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 1: your little turtle formation while the Huns ride around you 557 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 1: and shoot arrows at you, because you're all going to die. 558 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 1: So they have to be split, They have to be divided. 559 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 1: Only the Huns find themselves with a very strong king 560 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 1: at this time, not Untila, yet we're getting there. The 561 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: Huns they decide they want the Eastern Roman Empire. They 562 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:58,399 Speaker 1: decide they want its capital. They want Constantinople, named after 563 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 1: Constantine the Great Obvious. They march on Constantinople, and they 564 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 1: find themselves with a little problem. Again, another parallel to 565 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 1: the Mongols in history, at least the early Mongol days. 566 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 1: They ended up perfecting this. They got to the gates, 567 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,399 Speaker 1: but they couldn't get through the gates. They didn't have 568 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 1: siege equipment. These were again horse archers, fast moving. Get 569 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,200 Speaker 1: me out on the plains. I'll run you down like grass. 570 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,839 Speaker 1: Put me in front of a wall. I don't know 571 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 1: what to do. And Constantinople was heavily, heavily fortified. The 572 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 1: Huns decide, wow, forget it, we don't have to knock 573 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,560 Speaker 1: down the walls. Will just lay siege to the walls. 574 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:52,799 Speaker 1: We have a strong king. So they just decide to 575 00:47:52,840 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 1: surround Constantinople and wait them out, and then boom, the 576 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 1: king dies. Only the king dies, and there happens to 577 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 1: be a young Hun with an interesting background, Attila. The 578 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 1: Hun was formerly a Roman hostage, remember the old hostage 579 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,280 Speaker 1: system that used to exchange hostages. That has a different 580 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 1: meaning to us today. But Chris and I two separate countries. 581 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:31,240 Speaker 1: We fight a war with each other. Chris gets defeated, 582 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 1: because of course Chris would lose. And as part of 583 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 1: my treaty with Chris, to ensure that Chris is going 584 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 1: to be on his best behavior from now on, Chris, 585 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,919 Speaker 1: I need you to give me your don't don't use 586 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,279 Speaker 1: that finger with me, Chris, Chris, I need you to 587 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,399 Speaker 1: give me your some love, one of yours father, mother, 588 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 1: or sister, brother, wife, whatever it is. The child, if 589 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,319 Speaker 1: you have one, they're gonna come live with me now, 590 00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 1: and I'm not going to throw him in a dungeon. 591 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,359 Speaker 1: They'll be treated fine. We're gonna give him food. Oftentimes, 592 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,799 Speaker 1: hostages were treated really well, given an education, given a 593 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,839 Speaker 1: military education. It's just going to be with me in 594 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 1: case you act up and then I'm gonna cut his 595 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 1: head off. It's just been used forever. Forever. People used 596 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,440 Speaker 1: that system, and Attila was, at one point in time 597 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 1: a hostage of the Romans. Attila not only was an 598 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:33,360 Speaker 1: accomplished un he knew everything there was to know about 599 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 1: Roman military tactics, Roman military capability. Attila was a young 600 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 1: man who, well, he wanted to use such knowledge. They 601 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 1: didn't call Attila the hun the scourge of God for 602 00:49:56,239 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 1: no reason. What type of person do you have to 603 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,680 Speaker 1: be for the Roman Empire to know you as the 604 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 1: scourge of God? Well you're gonna have to wait till 605 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 1: Monday to find out. Now, there are a million and 606 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,960 Speaker 1: one lessons we can learn. But when I study at 607 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 1: least this part of it, When I'm looking at this 608 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,399 Speaker 1: part of it. What really hits me was this. It 609 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 1: wasn't the Roman mistakes. Obviously they made mistakes. It was 610 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,439 Speaker 1: once the Goths started coming in, the Huns started coming in, 611 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,720 Speaker 1: it was over. But it was over before that because 612 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 1: they let themselves rot and rot and rot and rot. 613 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:52,839 Speaker 1: And by the time you get to the point where 614 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,799 Speaker 1: you have to hire a bunch of goths to fight 615 00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 1: in your army, by the time you get to the 616 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,879 Speaker 1: point where you're allowing barbarian tribes to settle on your 617 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,799 Speaker 1: lands because you're not strong enough to throw them off, 618 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 1: by the time your culture is that lost, there is 619 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 1: no way for you to win. There is no path 620 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:23,279 Speaker 1: to victory. Once the enemy is inside the gates, it's 621 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:35,080 Speaker 1: already done. We should have, as a nation, taken a 622 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:41,840 Speaker 1: lot more aggressive action to remove the barbarians from within 623 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,760 Speaker 1: our borders. And I'm not talking about people crossing the border. 624 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:54,840 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the Communists. Maybe we need to redo 625 00:51:54,920 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 1: that show on Jay Edgar Hoover. Maybe we look at 626 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:07,399 Speaker 1: him poorly for the wrong reasons. Obviously, I don't think 627 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:11,280 Speaker 1: jag Or Hoover was a great guy. Jag Or Hoover 628 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,439 Speaker 1: fought the Communists for forty eight years, trying to root 629 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:20,840 Speaker 1: them out of this society? Was he wrong? Look where 630 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 1: we are Joe McCarthy. Everybody knows the name, right US 631 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 1: Senator McCarthy is him. You've heard of that, even if 632 00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,120 Speaker 1: you don't know who Joe McCarthy is. He's the one 633 00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:38,320 Speaker 1: who had the Commy trials. Are you a secret communist? 634 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 1: I bet you're a secret communist, ruining people's lives, getting 635 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,759 Speaker 1: people fired. He's a scumbag, right, That's how you know him, 636 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,920 Speaker 1: That's how I've always known him. 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