1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: What did you do with all your Ravens gear? Wow? 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 2: Thankfully my wife did grow up in Maryland, Okay, so 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 2: there's a lot of her family that we were able 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 2: to hand some of it to the other got donated, 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: you know, kept some from memory, but most of either 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: donated or to her family. 7 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 3: It is the best podcast available, and it's not standing 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 3: side by side, which was the best framing available. We're 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 3: back from Indy, back in the respective home offices. Jason 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 3: at the Cross Country Mortgage Campus. Yours truly back wearing 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 3: a Techmo T shirt from back in the day at 12 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 3: my home office. 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, friends. 14 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 3: We're brought to you by Bullseye Event Group for award 15 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 3: winning game day experiences, visit Bullseye eventgroup dot com. 16 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 4: I am wearing a blue shirt today that I did 17 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 4: not get any credits from the Baltimore Ravens to buy. 18 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: So it's amazing iron gear, but not today. 19 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 3: So A Gibbe's referring to is Todd Monkin making the 20 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 3: rounds last week when we are all together at the 21 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: annual Scouting Combine in Indianapolis, staying up till late hours 22 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 3: of the evening or the morning for that matter, doing 23 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 3: work for you, the fan. 24 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: That's why we're there. We're grinding for you. 25 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 3: And Todd Monkin was going around in a big it 26 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 3: looked like a Carolina blue Jordan quite baggy sweatshirt, and 27 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 3: he explained it to us off the air, but then 28 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 3: he decided to explain it to. 29 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: Others on the air. 30 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: Pro Football Talk Mike Florio, Chris sim Set and also 31 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: our Browns content team had him miked up and he 32 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 3: explained it to some others and then we posted it. 33 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 3: He had like a five hundred dollars credit when the 34 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 3: Ravens were kicking him out the door. We're not kicking 35 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 3: him out the door, but you get my points. 36 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: So we cashed it all in at Nike. Good job 37 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: by him a night. 38 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 4: It was a nice sweatshirt minus the color, eh, Carolina. 39 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: You know I'm a dog fan. 40 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 3: What I don't get And we did kind of ask 41 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 3: him this and he was like, oh, so like the shirt, 42 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 3: good looking shirt. 43 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. 44 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: If you have this credit, why do you go to 45 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 3: the five hundred or I'm sorry, why do you go 46 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 3: to the baggy like Jordan colored hoodie or they. 47 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: Were a unc hoodie? I don't get it. Did the 48 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 1: wife pick it out. 49 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 4: Maybe, I mean she she clearly has some taste and 50 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:31,839 Speaker 4: Todd references her quite a bit. 51 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: We can't wait to meet missus Monk. She has been 52 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: the comedic foil. 53 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 3: Coming up, we should mention here on the best podcast available, 54 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 3: We're going to talk to the Browns new offensive coordinator 55 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: Travis Sweitzer, former Akron Olive and he is a ZIP 56 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 3: and he also is coming with Monkin from Baltimore. 57 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,839 Speaker 1: I'll ask him what he is doing with all his 58 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: Raven's gear. 59 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 3: That is coming up shortly, Gibby, let's wrap up a 60 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 3: combo because as we sit here recording this on a 61 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 3: Monday afternoon here back from the Combine, one week before 62 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 3: the window opens for free agency conversations. 63 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: What's that? What's that called? Again? 64 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 3: We could talk about it. They call it the legal tampering. 65 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: That's except it's not. It's not tampering. It's legal. 66 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 3: You're allowed. The window opens on Monday. The tampering is now. 67 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 3: The tampering was one am at Prime forty seven. That's tampering. 68 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: Maybe two AM, two A maybe maybe three. 69 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: Honestly, I got a couple of text from people at 70 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 3: three thirty in the morning when yours truly was sound asleep. 71 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: That's right, sound asleep in the comfort of my bed, 72 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: getting bonvoy points sound asleep, and others were out. That's 73 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 3: tampering in all seriousness, anything that happens in those forty 74 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 3: eight hours between Monday and then Wednesday of next week 75 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 3: at four pm, that that isn't tampering. You're allowed to 76 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 3: do that. I digress, But deals can be made. But 77 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 3: let's wrap up the combine here. You know, Saturday's the 78 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 3: big day, the quarterbacks and the running backs and the 79 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 3: wide receivers. That is the fun day. Did any quarterback 80 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 3: jump off the page of the ty Simpson looked? 81 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: Okay? 82 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 3: I think Green from Arkansas started at Boise obviously, as 83 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 3: all the ridiculously good measurables. Whether or not his quarterback 84 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 3: play on tape adds up to being a you know, 85 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 3: an NFL quarterback remains to be seen, but I think 86 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 3: he's going to go mid round just my opinion here, 87 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 3: maybe even third round. But you saw from the skill 88 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: position guys in this I think bodes well for the Browns. 89 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: And on Sunday with the old lineman. 90 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 3: You saw some ridiculous athletic performances, not only from Jeremiah Love. 91 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 3: It's not a very deep running back group, but the 92 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 3: Browns still two running backs last year. But from the 93 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 3: wide receivers, you saw some ridiculous speeds on that track. 94 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 3: You also saw a guy like Carnell Tait that obviously 95 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 3: is a former Buck guy and is going to be, 96 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 3: in my estimation, the fifth straight Ohio state wide receiver 97 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 3: or the fifth right year where we get a Buckeye 98 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 3: wide receiver. 99 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: Going in the first round. 100 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 3: You also saw him run what seems like, compared to 101 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 3: others a pedestrian four five three. I would say, pump 102 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 3: your brakes. Pump your brakes. It's not that big of 103 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 3: a deal. It truly isn't. Matter of fact, it might 104 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 3: be a good thing. You don't have to run a 105 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: four to two six to turn heads. Your tape is 106 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: your resume more so than your forty on a Saturday 107 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 3: in shorts in shorts. 108 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 4: Let's not forget about that. Yeah, Okay, didn't run the 109 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 4: fastest forty. I don't think he was going to run 110 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 4: the fastest forty. 111 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: Anyways, he knew that coming in. Yeah, it was known. 112 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 4: The g man in our prep was saying, Hey, there 113 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 4: were a number of other NFL teams that had his 114 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 4: time quicker than what. 115 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: The official time was. 116 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 4: Look, he can catch the ball, he's a good route runner, 117 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 4: and he does have speed four or five isn't anything 118 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 4: to you know, slack off on. I'm not worried about it. 119 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: Matter of fact. 120 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,559 Speaker 4: Hopefully it scares a team or two away and maybe 121 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 4: falls to us at number six and Zegur gets weapons weapons, weapons, weapons, weapons. 122 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 3: Sure, that is another way to look at it. Yeah, 123 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 3: and you know Puka Nakua for example. Now granted he 124 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 3: was not ever going to be a first round pick, 125 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 3: but I can tell you Cooper Cup. Actually go back 126 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 3: to Cooper Cup. When Cooper Cup was coming out of 127 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 3: the draft in twenty seventeen, I can tell you when 128 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: he ran poorly that there were in the Rams suite 129 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 3: people were high five, high five, high five so they 130 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 3: could take him the third one where they did take 131 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:55,239 Speaker 3: him out of eastern Washington. 132 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: They were thrilled he did not run well. 133 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: Anyway, we're way ahead of ourselves your impressions of the combine, 134 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 3: not only Todd Monkin and Andrew Berry or any everything 135 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 3: you saw or heard, as there is no break in 136 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 3: the calendar anymore. Just two weeks after the super Bowl 137 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 3: because the Super Bowl is a little bit later. Then 138 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 3: you get the combine and then you leave there and 139 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 3: it's a week ahead of free agency and three weeks 140 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 3: ahead of the league meeting. 141 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was fascinating trying to figure out where this 142 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 4: wide receiver class stacks up to other wide receiver classes 143 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 4: in the past. I mean, everybody seems to think it 144 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 4: is a it's a deep wide receiver draft, but no 145 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 4: one's no one's saying like there. You know, when we 146 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 4: were asking people last week, is anybody better than Teed 147 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 4: McMillan from the previous year, you get mixed answers on that. 148 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 4: So I think that was fascinating. Is the tackle class 149 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 4: is deep and as good as we think it is? 150 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: Maybe not? 151 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 4: And I think it's where do you see guys and 152 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 4: how can you develop them? How quick can you get 153 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 4: them on the field? Can they play other positions on 154 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 4: the offensive line besides tackle? You know, I think those 155 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 4: are some of the big questions I think I took away. 156 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 4: You know, we talked about some We talked about Carnell 157 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 4: Tate and Rvel Reese, you know, seems to be the 158 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 4: guy at number two. But the style styles, Yeah, can 159 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 4: we talk about the Styles, but the brothers, both of them. Yeah, 160 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 4: because the safety did all right, Lorenzo did okay as well. 161 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 3: Let's not forget that Lorenzo played wide receiver for a 162 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 3: minute at Notre Dame before before he went to Columbus 163 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 3: and switched to the other side of the ball too, 164 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 3: So he's he's a different dude. He's more than just 165 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 3: a runner. 166 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's pretty impressive, and Sonny was. I mean, if 167 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 4: you talk about the freak performances of the combine, Sonny 168 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 4: Styles showed up and showed out, and the question becomes, now, 169 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 4: is he a top ten pick in this draft? 170 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: Oh? 171 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 3: I think he's a top ten pick. I would pose 172 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 3: this question. Is he the first buck guye off the board? 173 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 3: You want to make it a buck eye conversation? Is 174 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 3: he ahead of r Vel Reese and Caleb Downs? I 175 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: think the word on the street currently as a word 176 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 3: in the street, the speculation we're two months out, friends, 177 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 3: is that the first Buckeye gone is not going to 178 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 3: be Caleb Downs. Two months ago. You were four months 179 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: ago or a year ago, you would have laughed at us. 180 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: It doesn't mean he's not going to be a great pro. 181 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 3: He could go too, you never know. 182 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 5: Heck, he could go on, although, oh no, that's not 183 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 5: going to happen. 184 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 3: I think the question is, is Sonny now ahead of 185 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 3: r hel Reese and Caleb Downs because of what he 186 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 3: did on Thursday night at the Combine? 187 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? 188 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 4: I mean are you a defensive end or are you 189 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 4: an outside linebacker? That seems to be the question with Yeah. 190 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 4: You know, with Sonny, you know what he is. You know, 191 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 4: does a specific team have that type of defense that 192 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 4: would require. 193 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: A man of his talents? You know, That's what it 194 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: comes to that. I think it comes down to fit. 195 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 3: Of course, yeah, and positional value as well, for off 196 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 3: ball linebackers or for safeties as Bose at edge. Look, 197 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 3: we got two months to unpack that the best offensive 198 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 3: lineman in this raft could be a guard. You have 199 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 3: plenty of guys, however, at tackle that you could plug 200 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 3: in and say, hey we got a guy for the 201 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 3: next how many every years? So the Browns obviously have 202 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 3: holes to fill on the offensive line. I keep hearing 203 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 3: and I want to push back against this narrative that 204 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 3: and you hear it on social media, you see it 205 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 3: on TV. The Browns need to replace all five starters 206 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 3: on the offensive line. That isn't true. Okay, now they 207 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 3: have major work to do to rebuild that offensive line. 208 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 3: But as we sit here right now on Monday, I 209 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 3: don't know about Joel Buttonio. Obviously, he could choose to 210 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 3: do anything include retire, which would not be a surprise 211 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 3: to any of us. Dewan Jones, and I know Dewan 212 00:10:58,200 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 3: has battled injuries. 213 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: Dwan Jones is a starter. 214 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 3: He was your opening day Week one left tackle starter 215 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: a year ago. Fingers crossed to Wan can stay healthy. 216 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 3: You have him coming back, and you also have Luke 217 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 3: Whipler coming back. We talked about this last week. Luke 218 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 3: could be your starting center. He started in December when 219 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 3: Ethan Posa went down. And Dewan could be a starter 220 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 3: at right tackle, you would assume, because remember that's where 221 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 3: they moved him before he got injured. The left tackle 222 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: experiment did not last long. I ran into Dewand on 223 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 3: my way out of Indianapolis, saw him at the airport. 224 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: Remember he is an indian native. 225 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 3: He was there jetting off for a weekend to see 226 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 3: some friends. But he said he's doing well. He's going 227 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 3: to be back in Cleveland in a couple of days. 228 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 3: And yeah, he looked good. He looked good. 229 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 4: I know, I told you I had seen him the 230 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 4: week prior. Yeah, slim down, Yes, moving well, alute in. 231 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: The building every day, working out right now. 232 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: He was moving through the airport. Well, for whatever that 233 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: is worth. Let's work this in as well, because that 234 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 3: should be a combined drill. Yes, I moving through the 235 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 3: air ten minutes to get from one gate to another. 236 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 3: How well can you move? Oh, I'm undefeated. Well, I 237 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 3: know you are. I mean you're a first round pick 238 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 3: at that. Not only that, Nathan, I'll be honest with you, 239 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 3: Nathan commented again when we were in Indianapolis. So Nathan 240 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 3: is considerably taller than me. I'm not tall. I have 241 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 3: short legs. He gets annoyed that I walk too fast, 242 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 3: like we're going from one restaurant to the hotel, or 243 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 3: from here out to there, or through the hallways. He 244 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 3: gets annoyed. This happened all throughout the season as well. 245 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 4: We have to burn off the five thousand calorie meals. 246 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: He gets annoyed. That's right. Let's get to the actual 247 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: news here. 248 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 3: As we sit down on Monday to tape this reportedly, 249 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 3: and I want to stress reportedly, because these deals were 250 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 3: telling you about. Cannot become official until the new league year, 251 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 3: which is four pm on Wednesday the eleventh. Okay, But reportedly, 252 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 3: according to my colleagues at NFL Networking in Rappaport and 253 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 3: Tom Pelisero, the Browns have made a trade with the 254 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 3: Texans for a guy that will be a starting piece 255 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 3: on that offensive line. He his former first round pick 256 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 3: Titus Howard, who for the majority of a seven year 257 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 3: career with the Texans was a right tackle. However, last 258 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 3: year they moved him around. 259 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: He has what they. 260 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 3: Call position flex for multiple reasons. Last year Trent Brown 261 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 3: came back, they moved him around. He played ten starts 262 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 3: at right tackle, five at left guard, and three at 263 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 3: right guard last year. Again, a career right tackle who 264 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 3: kicked inside last year, is traditionally a better pass blocker 265 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 3: than he is a run blocker. However, George Warhop, the 266 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 3: Browns new offensive line coach, had him in twenty twenty 267 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 3: two when he was in Houston, so there's familiarity there. 268 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 3: In return, reportedly, the Browns are giving up a fifth 269 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 3: round pick. The Browns have three fifth round picks, their 270 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 3: own fifth round pick, a fifth round pick they got 271 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 3: in return for Joe Flacco and a fifth round pick 272 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 3: they got. 273 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: In return for Kenny Pickett. 274 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 3: Whether it's at right tackle or either guard position, you 275 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 3: get a consistent starter, a former first round pick, and 276 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 3: a guy that is graded out well. 277 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 4: All rookie team his first year in the league. 278 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: That was a long time ago. 279 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 4: That's all right, seven years in the league, ninety three 280 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 4: career starts. He's put in the time, and he's put 281 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 4: in the effort. And it's the second straight year the 282 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 4: Browns and Texans had made it a trade involving a tackle. 283 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 3: If you remember, yes, the Cam Robinson trade was made 284 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 3: into week five, so post Detroit week four, before we 285 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 3: headed off to London for Week five, Remember there was like, hey, 286 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 3: does Cam have a passport? He did have a passport, 287 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 3: but god. 288 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: No, no. 289 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 4: And that's I mean. You mentioned the pass block versus 290 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 4: the run block, and maybe not as great at run block, 291 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 4: but the Browns were twentieth in past block win rate 292 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty five. Got to be able to got 293 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 4: to be able to protect the passer. 294 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, And this speaks to this speaks to what Andrew 295 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 3: Berry has said last week is there are other there 296 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 3: are many ways to rebuild off and offensive line. The 297 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 3: best way to do it, or what are the ways 298 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 3: to do is look what the Bears did last year. 299 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 3: It's a combination of young players, trades, and then obviously 300 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 3: your draft picks that you will bring in come the 301 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 3: last weekend in April. So Titus Howard, the former twenty 302 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 3: third overall pick of the Texans back in twenty nineteen 303 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 3: out of Alabama State. 304 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: Reportedly that will happen. 305 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 3: I can tell you, however, with a degree of certainty, 306 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 3: that we were able to talk to the Browns new 307 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 3: offensive coordinator when we're in Indy joining us, and this 308 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 3: is kind of cool. The brand new offensive coordinator of 309 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 3: your Cleveland Browns, and I'm going to say the name, 310 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 3: and you're going to look at me and you're saying, Andrew, 311 00:15:57,280 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 3: you're screwing this up. I'm not Travis quite, sir. It's 312 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 3: good to have you. Appreciate it, man, it's awesome to 313 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 3: be here. 314 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: We're very excited. 315 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 3: And that is how we say your name. That is 316 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 3: how often do people screw that up? Minimum ninety percent 317 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 3: of the time. Okay, yeah, you were just asking me earlier. 318 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 3: I respond to Switzer quite often and we'll have to correct. 319 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: Okay, nickname. What's the nickname? 320 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 2: Sometimes it's Trevs, sometimes it's Sweites. Okay, yeah, either either one. 321 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 2: Wool Workshop, Yeah, will Workshop. 322 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 3: He's the new OC comes with Todd Monke and you 323 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 3: were there in Baltimore for nine years. 324 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: What did you do with all your Ravens gear? Wow? 325 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 2: Thankfully my wife did grow up in Maryland. Okay, so 326 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: there's a lot of her family that we were able 327 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: to hand some of it to the other got donated, 328 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 2: you know, kept some from memory, but most of it 329 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 2: either donated or to her family. 330 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 3: Because it's not like you're going from Baltimore to like Arizona. 331 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 3: You're going from Baltimore to Cleveland, correct, right, can't wear No, yeah, 332 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 3: I can't wear. But for you to return to Northeast Ohio, 333 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 3: you played for four years in Akron all Mac Center 334 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 3: here at Akron, it to be. 335 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 2: Coming back awesome. I mean, the life works funny ways sometimes. 336 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: Obviously. 337 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have some from familiarity with Northeast Ohio. Just 338 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 3: what football means to this area of the country, what 339 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 3: the Browns mean to Cleveland. You know, I saw that 340 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 3: when I was at accurate. Take me through the conversation 341 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 3: between you and Todd Monkin as just something over the 342 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 3: years where hey, if I get that shot one day, 343 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 3: I want to take you with me, Or did he 344 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 3: just surprise you at two in the morning with a text. 345 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 2: I mean, we had had some conversations, but that was 346 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 2: kind of where it was, and I knew there might 347 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 2: be a consideration, and obviously it would be very excited 348 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 2: about him. I love Monk and learn a tremendous amount 349 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 2: from him. 350 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: Great got to work for, great got to work with. 351 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 2: So yeah, we had had some conversations, but yeah, not 352 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 2: nothing like confirmed or anything for a guy who started 353 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 2: obviously playing then worked your way up, like from the 354 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 2: bottom rung there in Baltimore to get that shot. 355 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: Now as an offensive coordinator, what does that mean to you, man? 356 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 2: I mean the timeline of when things happen. You often 357 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 2: don't have a ton of control over. You just try 358 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 2: to do a great job at the job you have 359 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,239 Speaker 2: and worry about the next one when you get it. 360 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,479 Speaker 2: But yeah, this is always something that's a dream come 361 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 2: true for me. It's always something I wanted to do, 362 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 2: so yeah, I'm very very excited. 363 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: All right. What does his offense look like? 364 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 2: I mean, it's an offense that is going to cater 365 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 2: to its players and what they do well. I'm sure 366 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 2: you'll ask about that at some point too. We don't 367 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 2: know exactly who that's going to be on the whole 368 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 2: offensive side of the ball yet, but it's a fast, violent, 369 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 2: physical offense that's going to cater to what our guys 370 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: do well. 371 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 5: And that was really something that Todd had mentioned in 372 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 5: his press conference and really tried to convey because over 373 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 5: the years, like for example, Brandon Whedon, they were kind 374 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 5: of you know, spreading out in front fifty times at 375 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 5: Oklahoma State, at. 376 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 3: Georgia, a lot of backs, a lot of tight ends, 377 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 3: a lot of RPOs with you guys at Lamar last year, 378 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 3: when someone said, what is a Todd munkin offense, He's like, 379 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 3: whatever I have, we're going to attack. 380 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 2: With that, right, And I mean, I think that goes 381 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: back to the way the system is built in the beginning. 382 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 2: You know, I'll always believe in being a multiple guy, 383 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 2: or at least have the ability to be multiple. And 384 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 2: one of the big reasons I believe in that is 385 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 2: so that you can cater to your players and what 386 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 2: they do well. You're going to have it in the 387 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 2: system to be able to do that. 388 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 3: All right, give me your thirty five thousand foot view 389 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 3: of the players that you do have on the roster. 390 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 1: As you get in the. 391 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 3: Building and you figure out where to live, and you 392 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 3: figure out where the coffee is, and you get in 393 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 3: that office, you look at your roster. 394 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: What do you see? 395 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm really excited about two backs. We 396 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 2: have Judkins and Samson. I think that both very good runners, 397 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 2: guys you can utilize in both run en pass. Obviously 398 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 2: with fannin last year the things that he was able 399 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 2: to show. Really excited to see where he could be, 400 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 2: you know, in year two for him, and then obviously 401 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 2: with the offensive line, I mean, maybe some guys that 402 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 2: we had obviously going to add some new pieces to 403 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 2: it as well, but just really excited about that group 404 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 2: as well. 405 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: Why to unpack some of that, Let's go to the 406 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: running backs here. 407 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 3: You guys in Baltimore the last four or five years 408 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 3: were top five pretty much every year in terms of 409 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 3: run pass percentage. 410 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: I'm assuming you want to run the football a little bit. 411 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that your ability to run 412 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 2: the ball controls the game. It's really hard to control 413 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 2: the game you can't run the football. So I think 414 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 2: being efficient on the ground and then also what it 415 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 2: sets what it sets up in the past game. You 416 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 2: know that this game is largely the offensive line and 417 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 2: the quarterback. You know, if those two groups play pretty well, 418 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 2: you're probably gonna have a pretty good chance to win. 419 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 2: It allows the other guys to flourish and do their job. 420 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 3: So I think running the ball is able to control 421 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 3: the game, and then it makes it easier on those 422 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 3: on those two groups as well. All right, give me 423 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 3: the thirty five thousand foot view of the quarterback room 424 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 3: right now. 425 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 2: I mean, we're excited about the guys we have, you know, 426 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 2: and that's all you can worry about is the guys 427 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 2: that you have. You know, a time being obviously DeShawn 428 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 2: that the career that he's had, you know, a ton 429 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 2: of respect for him sued or what he showed last year, 430 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: and Dylan as well. I mean Monk said this in 431 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 2: his first press conference. I mean, you will take a 432 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 2: job if you're not excited about the quarterback room. So yeah, 433 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 2: we're excited about the guys we have. 434 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 3: And some work certainly with filling some holes on the 435 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 3: offensive line. That's obviously been discussed. Andrew Berry talked about 436 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 3: that today on the podium. As a former offensive lineman, 437 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 3: what kind of perspective do you bring to that process 438 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,160 Speaker 3: of rebuilding that unit. 439 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that they're the heartbeat and the tone setters of 440 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 2: your offense. So the first thing we're looking for, really 441 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 2: with building any offensive line is a play style, right. 442 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 2: We want violence, Okay, we want guys running off the ball, 443 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 2: moving people in the run game, taking good sets, and 444 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 2: throwing their hands in pass pro you know everything else. Sure, 445 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 2: there's physical things we'll look for, you know, along with 446 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: obviously the whole all scouting department. But those are the 447 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 2: things for us that are kind of non negotiable upfront 448 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 2: and what we'll be looking to find. 449 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 3: As a former center, is it true that the center 450 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 3: is always the smartest guy in there? Of course, I 451 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 3: should probably say, of course, right, yeah, I've heard that, Yeah, 452 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 3: of course a few times. No, Yeah, I mean I 453 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 3: think that guy's got to be the communicator up front. 454 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 3: You know, the tip of the spear is really often him, 455 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 3: especially with Okay, let's get out of the huddle, let's 456 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 3: id do the front, let's make our calls, get everybody 457 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 3: on the same page. It's a huge and you have 458 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 3: a returning center in Luke Whippler coming back from an injury. 459 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 3: But a guy that got a chance as a former 460 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 3: Buck guy here late in the season to finally get 461 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 3: in as a starter. 462 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: What do you see from them? 463 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 3: Uh? 464 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, is one of the guys we're excited about. 465 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 2: You know, like I said, there's things we look for, 466 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: but that play style, the intelligence, okay, especially at that position, 467 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: and then your ability to communicate. 468 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, we're excited about. 469 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 3: Look, there are not many offensive linemen that become coordinators. 470 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 3: It's very often the quarterbacks that become coordinators. Sometimes running backs. 471 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 3: But there's maybe Andy Cenovich in Green Bay, Clayton Adams 472 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 3: in Dallas, Andy Reid. You could argue as an offensive 473 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 3: woman for five minutes a BYU. But what does an 474 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 3: old lineman bring that perspective bring to the OC position? 475 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think like where you played kind 476 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 2: of gets a little bit overdrawn sometimes. I mean, wherever 477 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 2: you cut your teeth as a coach is really going 478 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 2: to make you the coach that you are not really 479 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 2: your playing time and really, like immediately I was moved 480 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 2: into a receiver room, the tight end room. I actually 481 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 2: have yet to be in an offensive line room as 482 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 2: a coach. So I'm trying to tell you something. No, 483 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 2: maybe I'm trying to wait. So maybe that's part of 484 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 2: it too. But uh yeah, So I think a lot 485 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 2: a lot of that gets a little bit overblown, to 486 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 2: be honest with I think wherever you cut your teeth 487 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: as a coach and who you learn from and coaching 488 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 2: is going to dictate more about the type of coach 489 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 2: that you're going to be than the position you played. 490 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 2: But obviously, as a former offensive lineman, the importance in 491 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 2: that position, we were just talking about it. Like I said, 492 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 2: it's the heartbeat and the tone setters of your offense 493 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 2: and in some cases of your team. So I think 494 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 2: that this organization values the offensive line, and obviously I 495 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 2: do as well. 496 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 3: And finally coming full circle here, kind of back to 497 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 3: the entire Baltimore thing. You are staying in division. Obviously, 498 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 3: you know the style you talk about, the violence that 499 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 3: you want from your offensive line and the explosiveness from 500 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 3: this offense. 501 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: What do what do you. 502 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 5: Want to see collectively this unit look like to. 503 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 3: Fit in the AFC North, Yeah, I mean playing in 504 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 3: THEFC North, you've got to be a physical team, and 505 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 3: Cleveland's been that I mean if the coach against them 506 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 3: for nine years, I mean we had a ton of 507 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 3: respect for them from a physicality standpoint. So that's where 508 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 3: it really starts. I mean, the weather's going to get bad. 509 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: You know, you're gonna have windy, you're gonna have weather, 510 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 2: you're gonna have a precipitation, you're gonna have cold. So 511 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 2: it has to be a physical team that We'll go 512 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 2: back to what we were talking about earlier about running 513 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 2: the ball and being able to control the game. Certainly 514 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 2: that's a big part of it as well. 515 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: And we had some weather last year and the year 516 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: before and the year before that. 517 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, obviously this is what this team needs to 518 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 3: be built for. 519 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: Those conditions. You guys have in Baltimore, we see it 520 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. 521 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 5: I mean, it's obviously that's part of the game, no 522 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 5: question and no question. 523 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 3: Travis Swite, sir, everybody get it right. Welcome to Cleveland. 524 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 3: We appreciate you. Thanks, Matt, excited to be here. Don't 525 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 3: throw all your Ravens gear away. You give it to 526 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 3: friends and family, somebody somebody will wear it. Good job 527 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 3: out of him, Gibby. Let's look forward. I know we 528 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 3: mentioned earlier that we're week away from free agency and 529 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 3: all that stuff. The only thing I know Ron's fan. 530 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 3: A lot of Brons fans are the ones that hit 531 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 3: me up when I'm walking through an airport or you know, running. 532 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: Through an airport or wherever I am. 533 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 3: The only thing we want to talk about, obviously, is 534 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 3: the quarterback and trying to make sense of what Andrew 535 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 3: Berry and Ton Munkin said last week. I think they 536 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,679 Speaker 3: were both pretty honest. I don't think a lot of 537 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 3: translation is needed there. You have two quarterbacks in the building, 538 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 3: three in the building that are going to be able 539 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 3: to compete for the job. Might they add somebody? Yes, yes, certainly, 540 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 3: but you can't project what they might do in the 541 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 3: draft at six to twenty four, though we all agree 542 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 3: a quarterback and six seems unlikely, or at thirty nine 543 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 3: or wherever until we get through free agency, because you 544 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 3: simply don't know. And may I remind people that we 545 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 3: had gotten through free agency last year, well through it 546 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 3: at least the big part of free agency, and all 547 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 3: of a sudden, Joe Flacco's on the golf course and 548 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 3: his phone rang. 549 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 1: So like when you think you'd. 550 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 3: Know all the answer, sometimes more questions pop up. 551 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 4: That's right, there's a lot of questions as to who 552 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 4: the Browns might go out and get. I would also 553 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 4: say this, you know, we're you mentioned Botonio, We're watching 554 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 4: to see what happens here over the next seven to 555 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 4: eight days with that. But then you're also watching, you know, 556 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 4: can the Browns get Devin Bush. 557 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: Back in the building? Can they keep him? 558 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 4: I mean, that's arguably the biggest free agent this football 559 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 4: team has outside of Botonio. You know, can can they 560 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 4: keep Devin Bush? What will happen with m j Emerson? 561 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 4: You know, I mean that Andrew Barry was asked about 562 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 4: it last week and you know, not not one way 563 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 4: or the other, which leads you to wonder what's happening there. 564 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 4: So you know, I think I think the coaching staff 565 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 4: wants him back, and I think the front office wants 566 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 4: him back. But you know what's the price tag on that? 567 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: You can't have too many good corners. 568 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 3: You already have Tyson Campbell under contract, a deal that 569 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,479 Speaker 3: was given to him by the Jaguars by the previousstration 570 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 3: at Jacksonville. One of the reasons that this administration James 571 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 3: Gladstone the GM and Liam Cohen the head coach decided 572 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 3: to move off of them. They're playing a different scheme, 573 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 3: and obviously he was great for the Browns and you 574 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 3: love that you have him there. 575 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: For my money, you. 576 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 3: Can't have too many good corners, especially in this division, 577 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 3: when you have Jamar Chase and t Higgins down the street, 578 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 3: when you have Lamar Jackson slinging it in Baltimore, when 579 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 3: you have I mean, who knows and of going to 580 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 3: look like in Pittsburgh. But you get my point, you 581 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 3: can't have too many of them. MJ is a tough 582 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 3: one because the injury happened in late July early August 583 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 3: during training camp, but that was also the best time 584 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 3: for it to happen for a guy hoping to get 585 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:48,760 Speaker 3: healthy for this year. He is moving right, he is recovering, 586 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 3: and you would have to hope that he is good 587 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 3: to go come August or September. It really comes down 588 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 3: in a lot of these negotiations, is you know, what 589 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 3: kind of show of faith does any team want to 590 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 3: give you that coming off that injury, you can return 591 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 3: to performance. There's a difference between return to play and 592 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 3: return to performance. 593 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I. 594 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 4: Think the same thing. You know, we've talked about the 595 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 4: one thing that was said last week was maybe, you know, 596 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 4: we'd like to get to Ethan Posk maybe back. Well, 597 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 4: I mean, that's a gentleman that was hurt in season, 598 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 4: unlike MJ at the beginning of the season, before a 599 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 4: snap that even happened. You know, Ethan's timetable for recovery 600 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 4: maybe a little bit longer. 601 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: Still, so where does that fit? I think? 602 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 4: Also the restricted free agent side of things, I know 603 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 4: they're restricted, but you still have to you still got 604 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 4: to work through some things from a deal. And will 605 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 4: someone approach a guy like Ronnie Hickman, you know, I mean, 606 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 4: will someone try to make an offer? 607 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 3: Ronnie Hickman an undrafted free agent, played his three years 608 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 3: on his rookie contract, and he restricted free agency. Ronnie 609 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 3: is the guy that made a lot of plays over 610 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 3: the last couple of years and finally this past season 611 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 3: stepped in as a full time, full time starter and 612 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 3: I thought played well. Certainly played well, but he is 613 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 3: an undrafted free agent. Didn't make a lot of money. 614 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 3: That's how that goes, obviously, and he now has the 615 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 3: ability to potentially make some money, but he is a 616 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 3: restricted free agent. This is the benob This is the 617 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 3: best podcast available. Friends, presented by Bullseye Event Group for 618 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 3: award winning game day experiences. Visit Bullseye Eventgroup dot com. 619 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 3: Thank Travis Switzer for being here. 620 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: We will be. 621 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 3: Back next week as well, Gibbe as this will be 622 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 3: We've got to figure out how and when to do it, 623 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 3: but it'll be basically our free agency episode if you will. 624 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,959 Speaker 4: Well, I have a lot of news by next week. 625 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 4: We'll know what's going on with Joel Botonio. Maybe some 626 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 4: internal signings. Are the Browns done on the trade front? Reportedly, 627 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 4: of course, reported report not being official till March eleventh. 628 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 4: Reportedly you know, I mean, are they going to go 629 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 4: make deals? The trade machine in the NFL is fully 630 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 4: underway here as we've already seen. 631 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, because of the last week in Indianapolis. Reportedly that 632 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 3: is Jason Gibbs and reportedly I am Andrews Cisileiano and 633 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 3: reportedly allegedly this is the best podcast available. We thank 634 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 3: you for listening and for watching. We will see you 635 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 3: and talk to you next week. 636 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: So long, everybody,