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Speaker 2: The we'll make the best of what's around. Addition, as

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Speaker 2: day two of the draft and add Michigan cornerback DJ

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Speaker 2: Turner and Alabama safety Jordan Battle to their secondary. Coming up,

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Speaker 2: you'll hear from Zach Taylor and lou Anarumo on the

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Speaker 2: newest Bengals, and then I'll talk to my broadcast partner

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Speaker 2: now a nap guy. Let's get to Day two of

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Speaker 2: the draft. In the second round, with the sixtieth overall pick,

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Speaker 2: the Bengals selected cornerback DJ Turner out of Michigan Dane

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Speaker 2: Beruglet from The Athletic Head. Turner rated non number forty

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Speaker 2: two overall on his big Board and says that Turner

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Speaker 2: is smart, explosive, and competitive. From the Bengals perspective, it

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Speaker 2: addresses one of their biggest needs. The current roster includes

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Speaker 2: three outside corners with experience in chitabey A Wouja, Cam

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Speaker 2: Taylor Britt and free agent pickup Sydney Jones. The fourth

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Speaker 2: entering the final year of his contract. Taylor, Britt only

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Speaker 2: one year, proven deal after battling injuries throughout his first

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Speaker 2: six NFL seasons. Turner not only adds depth but could

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Speaker 3: Incided Adam, we felt like we need to add depth

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Speaker 3: to the mix. I believe if there's two positions you

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Speaker 3: And so that's just anytime there's a good player there

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Speaker 2: Turner is five eleven, one hundred and seventy nine pounds

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Speaker 2: and doesn't have great length, but he can fly. The

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Speaker 4: you'll see guys that have great time speeding. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: Turner had twenty pass breakups and three interceptions in his

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Speaker 2: two years as a starter for the Wolverines. The Bengals

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Speaker 2: the sixth round, number two seventeen overall, by moving back

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Speaker 2: where they selected Alabama safety Jordan Battle. He was ranked

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Speaker 2: number eighty nine on Brugler's Big Board, and Dane called

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Speaker 2: him a smart, experience safety with reliable football character and

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Speaker 3: Jordan Battle really excited. You know, we had high regards

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's in position a lot to make plays. You know,

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Speaker 2: Battle is six pounds and ran a four five five forty,

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Speaker 2: analysis of rounds two and three, and to look ahead

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Speaker 2: to Saturday with Dave Lapham. All right, lap Day two

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Speaker 2: of the draft has finished. The Bengals made their second

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Speaker 2: Are you at all surprised that three picks into the

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Speaker 2: So their second round pick, number sixty overall was DJ Turner,

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Speaker 2: the fastest player at the NFL scouting combine this year.

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Speaker 2: Ran a four to two six forty two year starter

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Speaker 1: That's the one thing that they coveted.

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Speaker 5: You know, anybody that had flat out burner speed, at

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Speaker 1: It looks like you're beaten, but you're really not.

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Speaker 5: And the overall team speed of this football team just

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Speaker 5: The concern with Washington is probably the knees. You know,

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Speaker 5: Lou An Arumo likes to likes to play with uh

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Speaker 1: Front end and back end.

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Speaker 2: As I read about Jordan Battle, the third round draft

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Speaker 5: And when you look at it, you know Clemson, Alabama,

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Speaker 5: The Bengals are sticking to that, that formula, and it's

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned Georgia tight end Darnell Washington because

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Speaker 2: he's got an issue that's definitely a reason why he's

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Speaker 2: It's a little bit of a headtch scratcher to me. Clearly,

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Speaker 1: Exactly, and I think he went to an organization that.

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Speaker 5: Looks like their tight ends has almost third offensive tackles.

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Speaker 5: You know, the tight ends with the Pittsburgh Steelers are

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Speaker 5: Pittsburgh wants to run the football. They want to establish that.

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Speaker 1: Part of things baked year on their young quarterback and.

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Speaker 5: That it also gives him a big target for the

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Speaker 5: I don't think that he is necessarily what the Bengals

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Speaker 2: And that's Devin Asiasi's primary scale if he's still on

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Speaker 1: As well, right, exactly, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's a that's a plausible possibility.

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Speaker 5: Think it was Penn State and transfer transfer out of there.

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Speaker 5: He's got unbelieved immense athletic ability for his production. Even

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Speaker 1: You know, that one might be an interesting tight end

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Speaker 5: You know, the one thing that's that's pretty interesting the

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Speaker 2: There are still some very good running backs left in

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Speaker 5: They're not reaching for anybody. They're just saying, we're going

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Speaker 1: Better about them.

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Speaker 5: You know, Dwan Jones, what a what a very very

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Speaker 5: painful and costly lesson and the biggest job interview of

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Speaker 5: his life. He refused to weigh in, refuse to work out,

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Speaker 5: and there were rumors that he was like over three.

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Speaker 1: Hundred and ninety pounds.

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Speaker 5: I heard like three hundred and ninety three paulls. That's scary,

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Speaker 5: you know, That's like, man, if you can't discipline yourself

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Speaker 5: to get yourself in the best possible shape you can

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Speaker 5: for the biggest job interview of your life, what are

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Speaker 5: you going to do in the off season after your

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Speaker 5: rookie year, second year, third year, you're gonna let yourself

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Speaker 5: balloon up to four ten, four fifteen. I mean, play

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Speaker 5: yo yo like that with that kind of a weight problem. So,

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Speaker 5: I mean, obviously that's scared people. And if they're teaching

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Speaker 5: them a lesson, you know, trying to make a point.

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Speaker 5: It's a point well taken at this point in time,

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Speaker 5: But you wonder what round will somebody say, Well, you

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Speaker 5: know what he's he's got, he's too big of a

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Speaker 5: too great a prospect. This guy's a dinosaur's he's got,

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Speaker 5: you know, arms like a pterodactyl. He's he's a massive

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Speaker 5: human being. I think I can get through to him.

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Speaker 5: I think I think my dietitian can get through to him.

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Speaker 5: I think my strength coach can get through to him. Well,

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Speaker 5: you know, good luck, maybe you can, maybe you can.

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Speaker 5: But boy, I mean, this is a guy that had

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Speaker 5: NC double a college basketball officers Division I college basketball

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Speaker 5: offers out of high school as well as football. I mean,

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Speaker 5: you know, he's he's a guy that's got he's got

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Speaker 5: decent feet, but you get up to almost four hundred pounds,

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Speaker 5: it's hard to redirect that. Man.

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Speaker 1: It's like that, you know your feet, Your feet are

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Speaker 1: a much different scenario trying to redirect a body that big.

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Speaker 1: But he's got he's got some skills, there's no doubt

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Speaker 1: about it.

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Speaker 5: But you know, there aren't many four hundred pounds tackles

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Speaker 5: in the National Football League, that's for sure. So that

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Speaker 5: that's that's obviously the big, big concern there. And with Freedland,

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Speaker 5: it's it's, you know, the strength part of it, you know.

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Speaker 5: Just now, I think I think he will go pretty

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Speaker 5: early in the fourth round. I'd be surprised if he

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Speaker 5: doesn't because he is very athletic.

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Speaker 1: There's no question about it.

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Speaker 5: He he shows that athleticism, uh, you know, not only

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Speaker 5: when he tests, so he's not just a you know,

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Speaker 5: shorts and T shirt guy.

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Speaker 1: He shows on the football field too.

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Speaker 2: Three rounds down, four to go. I look forward to

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Speaker 2: doing this again tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: Four rounds to go, five picks with that extra sixth

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Speaker 5: round pick, so they were able to finally trade back

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Speaker 5: and get that extra pick. I just wish it was

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Speaker 5: maybe a round sooner and maybe you know, that fifth

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Speaker 5: round instead of the sixth round. But hey, beggars can't

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Speaker 5: be choosers.

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