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Speaker 1: from where vander Pump Rules started. This show is about

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Speaker 1: people in their forties trying to figure out their lives,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just so concerned about the reboot of Vander.

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Speaker 1: Pot Shemiah and Porsche. That's gonna be a problem.

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Speaker 3: That's a problem. They're not they're not speaking.

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Speaker 1: They're done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The Martha Stewart documentary on Netflix is excellent and she

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Speaker 1: is a motherfucker and I love it, need too. I

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Speaker 3: Ass such I love it.

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Speaker 1: I'm apologetic.

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Speaker 3: That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Be you do you, Charlie Sheen right now seems like

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Speaker 1: the same one right now, Right now, it's a race.

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Speaker 3: It seems like okay.

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Speaker 1: He seems like he's a fairness.

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Speaker 3: He's had a lot of years to get okay.

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Speaker 1: He seems like he's quote unquote winning.

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Speaker 3: Two Hello Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello Hello.

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Speaker 1: Rap Aports Reality. My name is Michael Rappaport.

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Speaker 3: And I am kV Rapaport.

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Speaker 1: And this is Rapaport's Reality, the podcast where myself, Michael

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Speaker 1: Rapport and my Way Way Better Half Kibi Rappaport discuss

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Speaker 3: I drank some beautiful coffee delicious.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it was, Roundworks organic Nitro, cold blue.

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Speaker 1: That's some La coffee. We are recording this from West Hollywood,

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Speaker 1: down the street, down the street from where vander Pump

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Speaker 1: Rules started. Think about that. Yeah, I I personally like

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Speaker 1: when I want drive by pump rolls? And what was

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Speaker 1: What was it?

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Speaker 3: Why are you doing this to me all the time?

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Speaker 4: Sir, sir?

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's down yesterday, babe, yesterday, driving here, I passed Jacks.

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Speaker 3: I saw Jack's the actual sign Jack's.

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Speaker 2: It kind of gave me a little like a little butterfly,

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Speaker 1: How are you just?

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Speaker 2: I know?

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Speaker 3: I forgot to tell you last night, I.

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Speaker 2: I know well, I almost asked Meredith. I was like,

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Speaker 1: Well. Speaking of Jack's Jax Taylor is officially off the

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Speaker 1: vander Pump Rules season three as of now. Things could change,

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Speaker 1: I hope, well, things could change where he comes back.

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Speaker 1: Well, catch people up on how you feel about it.

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Speaker 1: Listen. I say this all the time. I think Jacks

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Speaker 1: I love that. You should highly recommend the Martha Stewart

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Speaker 1: And sure enough is that everybody's wedding, that's right. And

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Speaker 1: How do you feel we just got here? How do

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Speaker 3: You can't wait to get home?

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Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, you know, I have a lot

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Speaker 3: We've been all over and driving.

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Speaker 1: be here for the week, and I'm happy to be

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Speaker 1: down the street from sir, and I'm happy to be,

443
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Speaker 1: you know, close to all things. You know, vander pump Rules.

444
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Speaker 3: Well, god, it's not that hot, because that's like, yeah.

445
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,399
Speaker 1: It's definitely not that hot. But I don't miss living

446
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 1: here full time. I'm glad that we have moved out

447
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 1: of Los Angeles and live in New York City, which

448
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 1: is still the greatest city on the planet despite its flaws.

449
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,920
Speaker 1: Another story that we must talk about, and I gotta

450
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 1: pat ourselves on the back because we did on this

451
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Speaker 1: podcast shout out how great Denise Richards was on the

452
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:55,719
Speaker 1: previous season of Special Forces. We did say, even if

453
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 1: you just watch her few episodes on Special Forces, it's

454
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,959
Speaker 1: well worth your time. It is documented she was great.

455
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,479
Speaker 1: I don't know how the fuck they convinced Denise Richards

456
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 1: to do Special Forces, which is a great, fun reality

457
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 1: TV show based on the casting. Also the fact that

458
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 1: they get these people to do I mean, I don't

459
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 1: some of those stunts they had them jumping off bridges

460
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 1: and all that shit seems crazy, but they somehow someone

461
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 1: got Denise Ridges out there.

462
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 2: And well, now we know that she got out there

463
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:33,199
Speaker 2: and she was encouraged to be there because allegedly the

464
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 2: affair that she's had on Aaron, her current husband, was

465
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Speaker 2: with one of the Special Forces guys.

466
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Speaker 1: Now we're still team Denise, yes, and we did stand

467
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Speaker 1: up for Denise. But if this stuff that Aaron, her

468
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 1: soon to be ex husband, is saying, and listen, we're

469
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: still gonna be team Denise because if it's also true

470
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Speaker 1: that Aaron put hands on her, Aaron, You're a fuck.

471
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We don't support that any way, shape or form. Any way,

473
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: shape or form, but this relationship, let's just say, is complicated.

474
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 2: Complicated because from what it looks like, it's it shouldn't happen.

475
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 3: They got to get away from each other.

476
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Speaker 2: This is this is toxicity beyond I mean, and the

477
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 2: stuff he's putting out there, Aaron, Aaron is wild. I mean,

478
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 2: he put out all their text messages and the text

479
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 2: message for each other and her and the guy from

480
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Speaker 2: Special Forces.

481
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Speaker 1: There's a guy on Special Forces. There's a few guys.

482
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Speaker 1: They're like Navy seal, like you.

483
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Speaker 5: Know, honey, like yeah, you know, and allegedly, allegedly, allegedly

484
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 5: you got to say, allegedly, at least three times, allegedly,

485
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Speaker 5: Denise Richards was having an affair with one of these

486
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Speaker 5: guys from Special Forces, and somehow, some way Aaron got

487
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Speaker 5: hold of the texts and the photos.

488
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Speaker 3: It's in the Daily Mail. It's crazy.

489
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 2: He accuses her of being on pills and she gets

490
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Speaker 2: five hundred of them at a time and she mixes

491
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Speaker 2: them with to keep I mean, it's terrible the things

492
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 2: he's saying, allegedly, allegedly.

493
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Speaker 1: Allegedly, yeah, we don't even know if he's saying. I

494
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 1: don't like.

495
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 2: Talking about this kind of dark stuff. I really don't

496
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 2: because this is serious business. You know, they have a

497
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 2: daughter that's special needs, and if the mother's doing this

498
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 2: kind of stuff while having the dog, this is all

499
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: gets very dark. And this is this is where I

500
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 2: like to, you know, turn right.

501
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 1: But we still are team Denise. And like I said,

502
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 1: if you want something to watch, you could at least

503
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Speaker 1: watch the few episodes of Denise Richards on the last

504
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,919
Speaker 1: season of Special Forces. And now I almost kind of

505
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,640
Speaker 1: want to rewatch it because her interaction.

506
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 3: It was short lived her time on there.

507
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 1: A she tried and she got injured. She ruined her her.

508
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 3: Breast, she popped a breast and plant.

509
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 1: Trying to do a stunt. She I mean, she was

510
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 1: out there fucking competing.

511
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 3: She was trying, she was trying hard.

512
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 2: She looked very earnest, like she needed but maybe she

513
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 2: now that we know what we know. She wanted to

514
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 2: stay on the show because she wanted to stay close

515
00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 2: to old hunky guy.

516
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Speaker 3: You know.

517
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 1: But that relationship is nuts and it's nuts.

518
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 2: You saw that it was nuts on The Housewives when

519
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 2: we first that relationship.

520
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 1: I never got a good feeling for me.

521
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 3: Right never ever. Ever, No, I don't think anyone did.

522
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: No, he didn't give a good feeling. But it's wild

523
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: that between Aaron Denise Richard's Charlie Sheen right now seems

524
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: like the same one right now, right now, it's a race.

525
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 1: It's amazing.

526
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 3: Seems like Okay.

527
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: He seems like he's a due fairness.

528
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 3: He's had a lot of years to get Okay.

529
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 1: He seems like he's quote unquote winning. He seems like

530
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: he is winning. And that story, that.

531
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 2: Last scene that he was on when we watched The

532
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 2: wild Thing Show and he was on there, we said,

533
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 2: this is the show, like and they were sitting having

534
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 2: a little dinner and their interaction. Now the subtext of

535
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 2: that relationship given where we allegedly believe she is allegedly

536
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 2: allegedly how he was treating her, looking at her with

537
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 2: like a side eye, like I used to be the one,

538
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 2: now you're the one. Yeah, it makes sense now, babe.

539
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 2: You know, we actually skipped over something very very important.

540
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 2: Charles Oakley dated charae.

541
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Speaker 1: That's a big thing that like, come on, let me

542
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: tell you something. Personally, I mean, I don't know if

543
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: the world knows how we feel about Chara. She's one

544
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: of my favorites by Charie. She by Charay, who gonna

545
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: check me boo? Her shade game is crazy. Also, I

546
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: loved the last season that she was on. I didn't

547
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: like how she was treated, but I loved how vulnerable

548
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: she was in that bad relationship with that guy. I

549
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 1: didn't like that she was in that situation, but I like,

550
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: I love reality stars when they show growth, change and vulnerability.

551
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 1: And Charay is a shade shit talk.

552
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 2: She showed us everything and she's given us everything and

553
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 2: boy is she funny. But yes, he uh, why is

554
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 2: she not on the show? I don't know this is this?

555
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 2: She is a big missing piece. But anyway, that information

556
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 2: was like, whoa. I could see them together actually and.

557
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 1: Bringing her back now after the fact that Angeloakley she

558
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: earned she's staying. Yes, I agree again Angela Ley.

559
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 3: Listen.

560
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 2: In the beginning, I felt uncomfortable about their dynamic because

561
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: it just seemed like he didn't want to be there

562
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 2: in any And also, it's usually a kiss of death

563
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: for a couple when they get on the show and

564
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 2: one is not down because you're exposing a lot.

565
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 3: One is exposing, the other isn't.

566
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: It's like it gets really tricky and I would hate

567
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 2: to see a divorce come from the show, right.

568
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: Said, I don't know if the show could help fix

569
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: stop what's going to happen with them. I don't know.

570
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: I wish them the best. It usually doesn't help, no,

571
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: especially the way Mamie and Oaka is working out. But

572
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: that being said, Charre Whitfield, the great Chari Whitfield, knowing

573
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: that she dated Truce, could.

574
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 3: Not come back on the show of Angela's why Not show?

575
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know. That would just be

576
00:27:58,800 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 3: messy up.

577
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: Why is she not on this show?

578
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:01,719
Speaker 3: I don't know.

579
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: Take her for granted. They really do Traders. No, she

580
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: wasn't on Traders, like a season of Traders.

581
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 3: Oh wait, maybe she was.

582
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: I feel like she was on the second season of Traders. No,

583
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: Spadia was second season, second season, four seasons.

584
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I don't think Chara's underrated.

585
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: I feel like she was on something yo we yo.

586
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: I love shar her.

587
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 3: If she wasn't maybe she was on Trader. I don't remember.

588
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: I think that this is the wild that these two

589
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: dated uh before. But I gotta tell you, I don't

590
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 2: think she could come back, come back.

591
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: I think she can come back, and I think that

592
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: it's out in the open that they dated and he

593
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 1: said she doesn't want him. They're like, they're cool, Yeah,

594
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: they're cool.

595
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think great.

596
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: I think that the show needs Charae to come back,

597
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: and I think she deserves to be back on the show.

598
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: I don't know why they're always taking her off, kicking her.

599
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: She doesn't do anything too crazy, that's not.

600
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 3: Like no, I know, it's very strange.

601
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: They also said that Kenya Moore is not coming back ever,

602
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: No for now.

603
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 3: Okay.

604
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: See. I think that Kenya Moore, whether or not it's

605
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: next season or the season after, I believe in Redemption

606
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: and she's given so much to that show. I'm sure

607
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: she feels like shit, yeah, the way it happened, I'm

608
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: sure she regrets what she did. I don't know if

609
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: they can't bring her back because there might be a lawsuit.

610
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: But Kenya Moore, I just believe that people deserve chances.

611
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: And when you put so much into the show, and

612
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: you've given so much, whether you like.

613
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 3: It, whether you don't, show I built the show.

614
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, both of them. Yeah, And I feel like,

615
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: you know, like especially Kenya, who was there through all

616
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: of it and showed, you know, the good, bad and

617
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: everything in between. She twirled she deserves to come back.

618
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: Maybe she won't come back on the next season, but

619
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: maybe she'll come back on the season afterwards. But I

620
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: think bringing those two back right now would be awesome.

621
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 3: And would you keep would you keep keeping?

622
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: It's not coming back, no run it, but with the

623
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Speaker 1: crew that was at the reunion, and add Kenya Moore,

624
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: although I've already heard that Kenya Moore isn't coming back anyway,

625
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