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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fitness Disrupted, a production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: I am Tom Holland and this is Fitness Disrupted. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about eggs now. There is a funny or Die

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Speaker 1: video that I would say encapsulates what I'm going to

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Speaker 1: talk about perfectly, not only when it comes to eggs,

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Speaker 1: but when it comes to so much of the nutritional

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Speaker 1: advice that you are given. And it starts. It's a

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Speaker 1: video many you may have seen it. If you haven't,

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Speaker 1: it is so worth watching Funnier Die. This is why

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Speaker 1: eating healthy is hard is the title of it. And

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Speaker 1: there's been a couple I think variations of it, but

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Speaker 1: here it is in a nutshell. It starts out, first scene,

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Speaker 1: guy in a kitchen with his wife. She's cooking them

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Speaker 1: eggs and he's just about to eat them when a

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Speaker 1: guy comes running in. There's like a flash of light

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Speaker 1: and a guy from the future comes running in and

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Speaker 1: he says, eggs. Don't eat the eggs. They're full of cholesterol,

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Speaker 1: they are bad for you. Don't eat eggs. So the

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Speaker 1: guy puts his fork down. The guy from the future disappears.

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Speaker 1: Fast forward a couple of years comes flying back in

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Speaker 1: wait second scene, we were wrong about the eggs. There's

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Speaker 1: two types of cholesterol. There's good and bad cholesterol. So

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Speaker 1: eat the eggs, just don't eat the yolks, just eat

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Speaker 1: the white part. The guy disappears comes back again third time. Wait,

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Speaker 1: we were wrong. The amount of cholesterol in the food

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Speaker 1: doesn't affect the amount of cholesterol in your blood. So

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Speaker 1: eat the egg, eat the yolk, doesn't matter. And that's

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Speaker 1: pretty much where it ends. But I will add a

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Speaker 1: fourth one in, and it's a study that we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about in a few minutes. And now they're saying, Nope,

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Speaker 1: don't eat eggs, really bad for you, the yokes, cholesterol,

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Speaker 1: cardiovascular disease. There are some that we will talk about

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Speaker 1: who even equate eating eggs with tobacco and cigarettes. They

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Speaker 1: are making those connections. They are talking about both in

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Speaker 1: the same breath, the tobacco industry and the egg industry.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that, all right. But why is there

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Speaker 1: so much confusion. It's pretty darned simple. There have been

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Speaker 1: some studies that have reported no association between egg intake

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Speaker 1: and the risk of cardiovascular disease. Then there have been

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Speaker 1: a bunch of studies that have reported a higher risk.

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Speaker 1: There have even been studies that have reported an inverse

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Speaker 1: association with cardiovascular disease events. In other words, more eggs eat,

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Speaker 1: the less likely you are to have a heart attack.

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Speaker 1: So you've got all three, and even the meta analyzes

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Speaker 1: of perspect of studies on egg consumption and cardio vascular

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Speaker 1: disease the risk of cardio vascular disease, they have not

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Speaker 1: given us consistent results and just serve to create further confusion.

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Speaker 1: So what the heck do you do? Our eggs good,

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Speaker 1: our eggs bad? Should you just eat the white? Is

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Speaker 1: the yoke where all the trouble lies? Is it true

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Speaker 1: that that doesn't really add to your blood cholesterol doesn't

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Speaker 1: affect it? Well, when we come back from the break,

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Speaker 1: I am bringing back a guest who is so perfect

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Speaker 1: for this discussion. And she is actually the first guest

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Speaker 1: I have had on twice because she is that good.

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Speaker 1: Wendy Earl Beck. Let me give you her bio again.

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Speaker 1: So I did a show with her on sports nutrition

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Speaker 1: for youth athletes. If you have kids and they're into sports,

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Speaker 1: I highly recommend that episode. But here you go. Wendy

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Speaker 1: Earl Beck, M s R d N. She is a

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Speaker 1: registered dietitian, nutritionist, and fitness coach. She utilizes evidence based

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Speaker 1: science to tailor nutrition programs for athletes to optimize performance,

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Speaker 1: minimize health risk, and enhance recovery from training while focusing

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Speaker 1: on injury prevention. Wendy partners with parents, sports performance staff,

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Speaker 1: special needs and recreational athletes to offer nutritional guidance and

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Speaker 1: optimal athletic performance and lifestyle plans. Wendy is based in

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Speaker 1: East Lansing, Michigan, and she is the founder of Nutrition

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Speaker 1: with Wendy, LLC. Her website is Nutrition with Wendy Wendy

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Speaker 1: with an Eye dot com. Wendy earl Beck is her Twitter,

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Speaker 1: so it's Wendy Underscore I r l Beck Earl Beck

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Speaker 1: and her Instagram which is awesome as well. Nutrition Underscore

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Speaker 1: with Underscore Wendy. But you can see how it's spelled

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Speaker 1: right in the the description of this show. Why do

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Speaker 1: I love her so much? Why am I having her

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Speaker 1: back again? Because I would argue she truly utilizes evidence

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Speaker 1: based science to tailor her programs and just to to

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Speaker 1: disseminate the advice she gives. She has no bias and

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Speaker 1: and far too often and we will talk about that.

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Speaker 1: Nutrition advice and research is clouded and muddied by people

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Speaker 1: with agendas. Now, you can have agendas and you can

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Speaker 1: have your the way you live your life. But when

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Speaker 1: you start or not start, when you mix that into

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Speaker 1: studies and research and you start talking tobacco with certain things,

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Speaker 1: foods I got, We're gonna have a discussion. And so

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Speaker 1: that's what we're gonna do. So when we come back

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Speaker 1: from the break, Wendy Earl back, we're gonna talk all

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Speaker 1: As I said earlier, there is probably no better topic

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Speaker 1: Beck to talk about it with. And let's just get

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Speaker 1: right into it. Wendy, thank you for you were the

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Speaker 1: first return guest, which is which is awesome, and and

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Speaker 1: for good reason. You know what I'm gonna say, you

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Speaker 1: are and because listen I said this at the end

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Speaker 1: of the last show, I just listened to it again.

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Speaker 1: You know, our goal, you and I is to help

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Speaker 1: people live healthier, happier lives. And we don't have agendas,

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Speaker 1: we don't have the bias. And that's why I had

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Speaker 1: you on for the first time. I you know followed

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Speaker 1: you on Twitter and saw a day in and day

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Speaker 1: out what you put out there, and as I said

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Speaker 1: at the first show, very similar to what I believe.

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Speaker 1: But we don't come into it with biases, is what

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Speaker 1: i'd say. So eggs, holy smokes, is it like the

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Speaker 1: perfect topic? Right? You have probably out with this. Are

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Speaker 1: they good for you? Are they not? We'll get into

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Speaker 1: the yolks thing, but you know, give us like the

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Speaker 1: thirty second thing on eggs that you're dealing with every day. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I would say, I mean since the nineteen fifties, we've

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Speaker 1: and it changes. And then we you know, have studies

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Speaker 1: associations without sufficient data and there's several limitations. So, long

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Speaker 1: story short, eggs eat the entire thing, the yoke, the white,

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Speaker 1: the whole thing's rich and nutrients, high quality protein coaling,

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Speaker 1: which is essential. There's a part of acetal colding which

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Speaker 1: is essential for neurotransmitter production. I mean the vitamin's Eggs

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Speaker 1: are awesome for breakfast, right, we talked about getting breakfast

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Speaker 1: and front loading your calories. Eggs are awesome. You should

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Speaker 1: eat them, eat the whole thing. Eat an egg a

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Speaker 1: day and you'll be quite healthy. And we'll go there,

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Speaker 1: right because you said an egg a day, so that

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Speaker 1: But there is so much conflicting research. And I started

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Speaker 1: as you said, since the nineteen fifties, completely contradictory information.

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Speaker 1: And I think it comes back to common sense, right

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Speaker 1: and looking at and we'll talk about this, the bias

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Speaker 1: because people generally only read the headline and then they

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Speaker 1: stop there and that the study was associations of dietary

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Speaker 1: Journal of American Medical Association, Right, And what was your

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Speaker 1: You can't make those associations without a randomized control set up.

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Speaker 1: further investigation. And that's probably the hardest thing. So it's

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Speaker 1: when we assessed that too. It's like what they did

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Speaker 1: But eggs directly don't have an impact on cholesterol levels. Right.

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Speaker 1: And then when you take that and we'll get to this,

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Speaker 1: And now we're just in trouble right with the quote

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Speaker 1: love that, absolutely, more plants, but we also can benefit

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Speaker 1: from consuming you know, a sufficient amount of high quality protein,

427
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: and of course that's different for every individual. So I

428
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 1: just dislike how biased it can be because it's like,

429
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 1: you know, you can They're not mutually exclusive. You can

430
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: consume you know, garbonzo beans and black beans with the

431
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: chicken breast in a salad. I do that a lot,

432
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 1: and I talk about it, and people they laugh, They're like,

433
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: wait a second, you can't do that. It's either one

434
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Speaker 1: or the other. It's like, no, it doesn't have to be.

435
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 1: You can eat both animals and plants and be very healthy.

436
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Speaker 1: So of course it's in the context of the one

437
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,199
Speaker 1: individual's lifestyle, but I just hate this. You know, you

438
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 1: can't be narrow minded when it comes to nutrition. It

439
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 1: always depends and you have to do what's best for

440
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: the individual and their needs and their socio economic status. Right,

441
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 1: not everybody has the ability to purchase, you know, tons

442
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: of fresh fruits and vegetables. So that's why it's really great,

443
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: right that we can do some fruits and veggies of

444
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 1: course made our needs and then do some high quality

445
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: proteins and we can make for a very healthy body

446
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: and a great amount of longevity. Are not surprisingly and yes,

447
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 1: plant based, and I love plant based, not plant exclusive,

448
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: you know. I think that's where people get confused as well.

449
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: I don't eat a heck of a lot of red meat.

450
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: I don't you know. If you serve it to me,

451
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,719
Speaker 1: I'm going to eat it. But I don't, you know,

452
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: crave a steak of hamburgers. I'm not a big fan personally,

453
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,959
Speaker 1: but that's just taste. I eat the way you're describing

454
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 1: based on all of the research, the blue zones, you know,

455
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 1: so the anecdotal, but with a lot of you know,

456
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 1: numbers behind it. And if you want to be ve convention.

457
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 1: I have a lot of friends, you know, and I

458
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: had met fitz Gerald do and as we talked about

459
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 1: last time, amazing talking about, you know, all the different

460
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: diets and listen, when they're so polar opposite, someone has

461
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: to be wrong right where, you know, if it's is it?

462
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 1: Is it meat? Is it no meat? Is it intermittent

463
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: fast thing? Wait a minute, isn't your metabolism supposed to

464
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: slow down if you stop for eating for like three hours.

465
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: But now so it's much harder for people like Wendy

466
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Speaker 1: and myself to say, hey, eat a little of everything,

467
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: you know, not you know, agnostic when it comes to food.

468
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: That's harder. I would just say extremes are easier. Whendy,

469
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: it's easier to say, hey, don't do that, and it's

470
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Speaker 1: generally not what the research supports. We can't agree with

471
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Speaker 1: each other through you know. But but and that's you

472
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 1: know at the and you know what, let me let

473
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Speaker 1: me and again the guy who said to me, you know,

474
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Speaker 1: the first thing he said was, and I like him,

475
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 1: you eat too much protein. I would never say something

476
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Speaker 1: to that effect to anyone, right to put you exercise

477
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 1: too much? You exercise too little. Like one of my

478
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 1: lines about food now is if you talk about food

479
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 1: too much, it's a problem. Right. I don't want to

480
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: you know, we can have that discussion. But when it's

481
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Speaker 1: the primary thing that you're talking about all the time,

482
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,199
Speaker 1: that's a problem. That's so funny. I agree with that.

483
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: Do you feel like I mean another thing too? So

484
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 1: being a dietitian and people know about it, sometimes I

485
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: want to lie about what I do for a living

486
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: when I first meet someone, because they'll be you know,

487
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 1: they'll understand that I'm a registered dietitian, and they'll say, wait, okay,

488
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you what I had for breakfast. And

489
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Speaker 1: I'm like, unless you're my clients or my athletes, I

490
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Speaker 1: don't care what you ate for breakfast. I want to

491
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Speaker 1: break from talking about nutrition. Right. Did I not give

492
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Speaker 1: you the line? You're gonna find this probably really harsh,

493
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: But I didn't give you the line from that I

494
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: came up with one day after like the nine million

495
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: person told me what they ate. Oh, I don't know,

496
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 1: so you know, and it's gonna sound harsh, but this

497
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,959
Speaker 1: is real world. I had a guy's probably like been

498
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: in the industry twenty some years when this happened, and

499
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: he had probably twenty or thirty pounds to lose, and

500
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: he said, listen, Tom, I have maybe two egg whites

501
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: for breakfast. I have a brussel sprout, and you know,

502
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: a small piece of chicken for lunch, and I might

503
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 1: have you know, tuna, added the kid. I mean it

504
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: was ridiculous, and my eyes kind of glazed over and

505
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: I looked at him and I said, I know what

506
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 1: you eat. I'm looking at you, and it was like

507
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: like the bells went like I you know you and

508
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: I both know and that that may sound oversimplistic, yes,

509
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: but no, right in other words, like you can look

510
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: at some people and say they're under you know, nourished

511
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 1: or and I know you get it all the time.

512
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: Let's be totally honest. People will get you and say,

513
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: you know, she needs to eat more and you are

514
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,479
Speaker 1: super healthy and you are lifting heavy weights, and I

515
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 1: find that reverse, you know, discrimination, So listen, we know

516
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: that if someone is carrying around excess weight, barring some

517
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: kind of medical issue, which again are over analyzed to death,

518
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 1: they're consuming more cowaries. And we can look at people

519
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: who are under nourished and say you need to eat more.

520
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: So there the body tells us a lot, is my point, right,

521
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: And people just generally lie because it's not fun to say, hey,

522
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: I had sixty you know Malamar's this week alone. I've

523
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: never had a what how did you say to malamr

524
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Speaker 1: I've never had one of those. Oh my gosh, they

525
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: may not even make them anymore. I know I haven't

526
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: had one in a long time, but they're good. I

527
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 1: was gonna comments on that. That's one thing, like, you know,

528
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: just when I'm working with people as they are so

529
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: shocked and so until they actually start tracking their nutrition,

530
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: they have no idea how many calories they're actually eating.

531
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 1: It's like they think that they're starving themselves right in

532
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 1: their metabolism the shot, because they think they're under eating

533
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: and that's why they can't lose weight. But the fact

534
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: of the matter is their portions, you know, are distorted,

535
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: like I call it portion distortion, where they think, well

536
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: I just had a serving of berries. Well you had

537
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: a bowl of berries, so it's about a hundred and

538
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: sixty calories, and then you had these other bites and

539
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: pieces of this and you have no idea. You know,

540
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: every day you're chronically consuming you know, over six hundred

541
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: plus calories per day that you had no idea. And

542
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: then again it's like people kind of are dishonest with

543
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: themselves and not to pick on them, but you know,

544
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: until we start acknowledging our portions and what's on our

545
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: plate every day, right, I always tell my athletes, your

546
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: your plate should reflect your goals. Just like if you're

547
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: a general consumer, how you eat should reflect the future

548
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: or the current status that you want to achieve, So

549
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I mean, it's of course we're

550
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: always sensitive to people, but at the same time, you know,

551
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: we understand that, you know, calories. There is this crazy

552
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: meme out there and I thought it was kind of,

553
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: you know, horrible, But what you eat and what you

554
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: eat in private, you were in public. And I feel

555
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: like that applies to that scenario because it's like people

556
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: are unaware of what they're actually eating. But that's it, Wendy,

557
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: and I always give the example that you know, I've

558
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: done some strange things. I like to think I tried

559
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: just about everything in the business so I could learn,

560
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: and I did natural bodybuilding, so embarrassing for me, and

561
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: I'm just not embarrassing. But you know, you're on stage

562
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: in the speedo and actually was dating my wife at

563
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: the time, and I would say, this is another example

564
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: of how much attention I needed coming from a family

565
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: of six boys that I was getting on. But it

566
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: played into what I was doing at the time. But

567
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: I learned so much about nutrition and about being honest.

568
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: And as you say, the bites, licks and too pastes,

569
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: you know, you when you get that extreme and you

570
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: learn how much snacking people do that. I was doing that.

571
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: So yes, some people, you know, just they're not truthful.

572
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: And then I would say at least fifty of it

573
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: is they're not aware. And you know, now that we're

574
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: home more with what's going on right now, the bites,

575
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: licks and taste that people take all day long, that

576
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: adds up to hundreds, if not thousands of cowards for people,

577
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: and they don't understand that. As you said, you're right.

578
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: So if we I just think about like the eggs things,

579
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: So if we go back to that, if you know,

580
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: people could think in terms of health and what is

581
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: this providing me? Just like eggs are so nutrient dense,

582
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: and you talk about you know, food security. You can

583
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: have your eggs four weeks past the expiration dates. So

584
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: many people don't know that. But eggs are so versatile.

585
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: I mean you can put them in everything, and you

586
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: can also have them again four weeks beyond the expiration date.

587
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: So they're very cheap, they're nutrient dens they're definitely something

588
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: that you want to have in your fridge during this quarantine.

589
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: For sure. That's perfect. And let's bring it all home

590
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: now with I'll go now to the RWs, the real

591
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: world stuff. So my two boys have two eggs every morning,

592
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: both of them. They don't like the yolks, so I

593
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: pop the yolks out because I don't want to lose

594
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: the protein, and it's a way to get them started, right.

595
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: And so they're both so I'm not going to fight

596
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: that battle about the yolks. I know it's good. But

597
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: but they both have two eggs, and so that's part

598
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: of a huge breakfast that they both have. Now myself

599
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: and you know, I tend to take eat a lot

600
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: of eggs, Wendy, I'm sure you do too. And so

601
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: here's where I go to listen. I'm gonna take the research,

602
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna say we still don't know what

603
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: we don't know. So that because I eat an insane

604
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: number of eggs relative to most people. Quite often, if

605
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: I'm doing a six egg omelet, then it's one or

606
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: two yolks and it's five egg whites, just because I

607
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: go I'm eating a lot, and I'm getting those nutrients

608
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: in other places. If I weren't given the research, I

609
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: might not do it that way. But this is the

610
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: common sense side that I think is so often left

611
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: out of the discussion, right it's like you're gonna have

612
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: an exercise, let's total another discussion, but squats going past parallel,

613
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: yes or no? Things like that, and you go, okay, well,

614
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: if it's maybe worse for me and the payoff isn't huge, again,

615
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: I want to get into that debate, but it's you know,

616
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: why would I. I don't want to be wrong, So

617
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do squats, but maybe I'm gonna stay on

618
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,719
Speaker 1: the safer side, so I'm gonna eat eggs, and if

619
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: I'm eating more often than not, maybe I take the

620
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: yoke out every now and again. What do you think

621
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: of that? Love that? I couldn't agree more with that?

622
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: Um not to stroke your ego, but I think it's

623
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: it's great because it really drives home again the whole

624
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: purpose of having a balanced diet. So I agree with you.

625
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: Some mornings or some evenings, I like to do a

626
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: lot of mom let's in the evening, like whatever leftover

627
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: veggies I have. But I look at the whole day

628
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, you know how many nut butter

629
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: servings that I have today? Or you know the avocado?

630
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: What other fats did I consume? Today? Okay? I I

631
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: definitely am well above my fats. I probably should only

632
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: have one egg and then I'll probably do you know,

633
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: two to three whites in addition to that. But in

634
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: other instances, right, if you're starting off the day, I'm like, nope,

635
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start off with you know, two whole eggs

636
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Speaker 1: and then build my omelet. But again, it's a whole

637
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: day approach, like I really I get just outside of

638
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: being a dietician, it's so important to balance your nutrients

639
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: and to have a little bit of everything and looking

640
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: at it from a whole day perspective of you know,

641
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: avocado is really healthy, right, we know the great benefits

642
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: of it. It's rich in fiber and you know again

643
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: potassium even too, and it's a healthy fat. But you

644
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: can't just eat avocados all day long, right, We've gotta

645
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: have some sort of balance right room for other nutrients. So, um,

646
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Speaker 1: I just love what you said to about the spot

647
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Speaker 1: thing as well. It's a great example an illustration of what,

648
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,719
Speaker 1: you know, what are my goals out to? What you know,

649
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: what's the purpose of this, what's my why you know,

650
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: my eating this to support my goals? Or am I

651
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: eating this way? Um? Because of you know, a poor study.

652
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: I mean, that's really comes back to I just yeah,

653
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more. It's frustrating though, as

654
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: a consumer, my heart goes out to them because again

655
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,720
Speaker 1: with what the health documentaries that association of I tweeted

656
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: about it, and I remember it was like what three

657
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: years ago, and I said something about it's outraged just

658
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 1: that people are associating eating an egg with smoking five

659
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: cigarettes today. They had other crazy associations. Well, but that

660
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: to me absolutely insane. It's like, so you're telling me

661
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: that these you know, I call a cigarettes cancer six.

662
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: You're telling me that an egg is nutrient event says

663
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: it is, and we still don't have, you know, conclusive

664
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Speaker 1: evidence to say what it does as far as you

665
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: know long term health and lusteral things like that. You're

666
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: telling me that that's the equivalent of smoking five cigarettes today.

667
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: Get out of here, like it's outrageous, right right, And

668
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: you've really lost me, and and the discussion for another day.

669
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: But that is a huge part of what's going on here,

670
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 1: and you need to separate the two. And it's muddied.

671
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 1: And so you take all of these flaws and and

672
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: and that's why I love having you on and I

673
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: love this form to get this stuff out there is

674
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: that we're going by studies that are flawed from the

675
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 1: get go. And you know, doctors have zero nutrition studies

676
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 1: within their general you know, years of practice, they fought

677
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: against it when you actually look at they fought against

678
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: having a couple classes in nutrition, by and large the

679
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: basics of being a doctor. So you know, I get

680
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: it and then go back and specialize and do things

681
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 1: like that. But I have a lot of doctor friends

682
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: who are super unhealthy. Let's put it that way, right.

683
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 1: One doctor many years ago, Wendy I went in making

684
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Speaker 1: me wait for an hour and a half, and when

685
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: he came in and looked at me and said what

686
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: do you do? And I said fitness and he goes,

687
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: I don't have time to exercise. I was like, are

688
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: you kidding me? Like are you kidding me? Like it's

689
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: just so you know, just because you have an m

690
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: d and all that kind of stuff, And I don't

691
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 1: want to bash the profession, but you have to be

692
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: so cautious about where you get your information. And I

693
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: would argue that's why you go to Wendy and you

694
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: listen to and then you take common sense and That

695
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: is what this show is all about, is balancing those two.

696
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: And I think, deep down, Wendy, people know, I think,

697
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 1: deep down they go, wait a minute, it's an egg, right,

698
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: that's probably Is it really as bad as a cigarette?

699
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: That sounds kind of crazy. Yeah, it's outlandish. I I

700
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: couldn't agree with you more to I mean, with what

701
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: you're saying about physicians. I have some physicians in my family.

702
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: I respect them, of course, but they've been shared, you know,

703
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: they've had a whole five minutes of nutrition training, um

704
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 1: and again as dietitians, you know, the even you know,

705
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: some dieticians out there though, don't believe in science and

706
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: they are kind of behind in that. And I'm not

707
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: knocking them either. It's hard to read all the studies,

708
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: but we definitely need to, you know, be up on

709
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: that research as medical facials, because that's us being you know,

710
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: ethical in our practice and providing the best available information

711
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: for our consumers and our patients. You know, again, as

712
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 1: we talk about, we're always looking out for the best

713
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: interests of the population, and that means that we need

714
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: to make sure we do our due diligence and to

715
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: navigate that research and communicated in terms, and sometimes that

716
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: means that you know what we refer out or I

717
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: don't know, but I'm going to follow up with somebody

718
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: who is well versed in this area. UM. And that's

719
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: again the multidiscipline or area approach that I take with

720
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: my clients. And not that I'm perfect, but if I

721
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 1: don't know something, I'm gonna refer out or I'm gonna

722
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: ask somebody who does. So that's one thing I feel

723
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: like physicians probably have the pressure of they have to

724
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: know everything, UM, and if they don't, they just don't

725
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: talk about it, which that's a disservice to their patient.

726
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: But that's why it's so important that UM. You know,

727
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: physicians work really closely with dietitians, especially in the hospital

728
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: as well. I mean, everybody is a very critical part

729
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: of the care team. So thank you for bringing that up.

730
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 1: But again you yourself though too. You are a really

731
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: really knowledgeable individual in many areas. So you've read the science,

732
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: you've you've been around the block of the times. It's

733
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: actually with your elite training, so UM, I just find

734
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: that even if you are a professional UM and you've

735
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 1: been practicing for a long time. Again, just like you said,

736
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: we don't know what we don't know. So it's just

737
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: so important that we all collaborate together and we stay

738
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: in our lane. But if we need help, we ask,

739
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: ask for help and ask you you know what, I

740
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm gonna follow up with you and get

741
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: to the craft answers. I love that and you so

742
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: rarely hear those three words I don't know. That's, you know,

743
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: almost unheard of. And that's why I love this show,

744
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: bringing you and all these different you know, Brad show

745
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: and felt the best of the best in the business

746
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: to help people have their best lives. And that is

747
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: our ultimate goal. We're not pushing the agenda. We are

748
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: pushing here. Everybody is for you to have the best information.

749
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: You know. Listen again, I I have vegan friends. You

750
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: should eat less meat. That's what the research shows. It

751
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: doesn't show you should eat no meat. The research doesn't

752
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: show you should actually eat no eggs. And that will

753
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: end up there, Wendy. So it basically says that you

754
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: could pretty much have an egg a day. And so

755
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: the headlines that scream eggs are bad? What was it?

756
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 1: New study find eggs will break your heart? No, no,

757
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: it says maybe maybe too much might not be might

758
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: not be good. Too many might not be good, right,

759
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: And we don't know what too many is. We don't

760
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: know what might not be good is. So let's go

761
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: back to common sense and foods that were put here,

762
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: whole foods, right, Wendy that I'm sorry, I'm gonna continue

763
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: to eat my eggs. I'm gonna eat not as much

764
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: meat as I never really did. But that's the science, right,

765
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: It's the moderation, and it's so often lost. Yes, and

766
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: one thing too, I mean, yes, eating you know, wide

767
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 1: array of foods, but just keeping it simple. I think

768
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: for most people, all signs a side, right, because that's

769
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: what we really want to do, is that take home message.

770
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: Eat the rainbow. That is so important. You know, your reds, orange, yellow, purples, blues,

771
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 1: you know, all the pigments. That's truly the best way

772
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: to get in a lot of nutrients. So people don't

773
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: want to track their intake, you know. There they struggle

774
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: with portion sizes. That's a whole another thing, you know,

775
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: work with the dietitian. But at the end of the day,

776
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: if you can eat a lot of plants, you know,

777
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: eat the rainbow, um and then some meats of course

778
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: you want to get in high quality protein, that's truly

779
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: the way to do it. You should look down on

780
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: your plate. It should not be brown. You should see

781
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: colorful foods on your plate at every single meal. And

782
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 1: if you don't, that's definitely something we need to revisit

783
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 1: and take a look at. How can we diversify that,

784
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: you know, how can we add more color to get

785
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: more nutrients, you know, associating those pigments with nutrients. So

786
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: flat out, just eat the rainbow. Can't wait till you

787
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: know you have the experience I have with kids right

788
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: where I sit with my kids every time Wendy, and it's, yeah,

789
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: it's tortured to them. Probably. I go, Okay, what's our protein,

790
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 1: what's our healthy car if you know, what's our healthy fat?

791
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 1: And just what you said, I said, see all the color,

792
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: I said, just see all the color. You know, the

793
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: fruits and the vegetables and all of those. It's so,

794
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: you know, we make it or we don't. Other people

795
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: make it complicated where it doesn't have to be. But

796
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 1: that sells books and that pushes agendas. And listen, if

797
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: you want to follow those agendas, that's fine, But when

798
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: it comes to health. We're gonna have a discussion. We're

799
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 1: gonna have a discussion. I love it. We could again

800
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: do two hours. Any final words, I just I mean

801
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: eat eggs. Oh, I got something for you before I forget.

802
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: So my son we were watching Rocky Wendy and the

803
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: scene where he drinks and it's four eggs, I believe.

804
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: And this is how disturbed I was from a young age,

805
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: and how I was into fitness. So I used to

806
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: play the Rocky theme in my home gym when I

807
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: was in eighth grade and the movie, watch it all

808
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: the time, and I used to drink. I used to

809
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: drink eggs like that every now and again in eighth grade.

810
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 1: Salmonella was I there's a risk, obviously it's a lower

811
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: what's official. Yeah, you shouldn't do it, but it's it's

812
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: not the worst thing in the world. That is so funny,

813
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: So just be just like, just because you can doesn't

814
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 1: mean you should cook your eggs, right, Yes, I would

815
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: say people are safe to consume honestly, two to three

816
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: eggs per diggs. I mean, but again it depends, like

817
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: we always go back to, are you somebody that just

818
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: stores more? You know, are your closterol levels, Right, do

819
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: you just accumulate more plaque um just because of genetics?

820
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 1: You know, do you have other predisposed risks to developing

821
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: you know, outros, grossers or any of those things that matters. Um.

822
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: But again, if we go back to the science, right,

823
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: if your healthy individual, you are more than welcome to

824
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: consume two to three eggs per day and you can

825
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: still be very very healthy, and in fact you're probably

826
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: more healthy. But these this nonsense about consuming eggs and

827
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: increasing your risk of cardiovascular disease and death. UM. I

828
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: would say that that that is a misrepresentation of the science.

829
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: So we definitely need heap eating eggs. We need eat

830
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: lots of fruits, lots of vegetables, eat the rainbow. If

831
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: you're conflicted, if you're consumer right now and you're still confused,

832
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: we have a lot of great research out there that's available.

833
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: So I know that, you know, we share a lot

834
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: of great things on Twitter. Um. But again, just go

835
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: with the science and stick to the basics and eating

836
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: the rainbow and high quality proteins. Yeah, and and one

837
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: kind of complicated thing, but I just want to mention it.

838
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: Wendy talked about the combination of food we eat. I

839
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 1: mean that is like second third level stuff, but it's

840
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: you know, they did studies years ago on feeding people,

841
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: you know, um carbohydrates that were you know, man made

842
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: and pro teens and fats it was and it was

843
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: not people. They fed mice. They died, right, Because there's

844
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: nutrients and the way foods interact with one another is

845
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say, is like magical. And that

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Speaker 1: goes to the blue zones. And they talk about like

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Speaker 1: when you drink wine and parent with certain other foods,

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Speaker 1: certain things happen that we're still figuring out. So the

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Speaker 1: short of that is what Wendy has been saying for

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Speaker 1: this whole show is eat a wide variety of healthy

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Speaker 1: foods because they actually counter act certain negative things. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And I'll kind of leave it at that. But when

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Speaker 1: you eat a wide variety of foods, that is why

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Speaker 1: we talk about the is it doesn't have the same

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Speaker 1: effect for the most part, given when you eat all

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Speaker 1: these other healthy things. How's that? I love it. One

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Speaker 1: thing I just want to contribute is right, it's all

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Speaker 1: about you know, working smarter, not harder. And they say

859
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: that we're let's you know, eat smarter, not complicate things.

860
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: And muddy the waters. Like you said, So those fat

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00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: valuble vitamins that are found in the yoke, right, they

862
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,919
Speaker 1: need um fat, you know, vitamin E D ek those

863
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Speaker 1: are fat valuables. So you're getting all those right, And

864
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Speaker 1: it's kind of like if you're taking your vitamin D supplement, right,

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00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: that needs to be paired with that egg too, right

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Speaker 1: for the best absorption to take place, because there's a

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Speaker 1: difference between water soluble and fat soluble vitamins. So we

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00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,439
Speaker 1: need to just like again, take a step back and

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Speaker 1: understand that. So it goes back to the basics, and

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Speaker 1: you know, general consumers don't necessarily need to understand that,

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Speaker 1: but it's important to note again that we have water

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Speaker 1: soluble and fat valubles. So for those that are experts

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Speaker 1: that are muddying the waters out there for people, I

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Speaker 1: ask them politely, please stop and let's back to the

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Speaker 1: science and stop selling snake oil. And we need to

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Speaker 1: give people the best information so that you know, we're

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Speaker 1: thinking on behalf of their health and wellness and their

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Speaker 1: their children and their their overall family. So thank you

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00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: for having me so much today. I love you know,

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00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: not many topics. It's awesome, it's great, But yeah, getting

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00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: just back to the basics. We just need to eat

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Speaker 1: real food. We need to sleep, we need to take

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Speaker 1: care of ourselves, we need to honor you know, the

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Speaker 1: days that we're feeling a little low on energy media,

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Speaker 1: that's why are we feeling this way. Maybe it's because

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Speaker 1: we didn't eat, you know, sufficient calories and you know,

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Speaker 1: let's take a closer look at the calories were consuming.

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Speaker 1: And I just I can't express that enough, especially during

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Speaker 1: the quarantine, of being mindful of your choices and are

890
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Speaker 1: you really hungry or are you just thirsty and board?

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00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 1: So just you know, getting back to the basics, and

892
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: with that, he'll turn it back over you. You You know,

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Speaker 1: I love it. It's such a perfect way to wrap

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Speaker 1: it all up. And you know, I know that Wendy

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Speaker 1: and my ultimate goal and she's the nutrition is I

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Speaker 1: have a sports nutrition so I'll stay in my way

897
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Speaker 1: and that's why I bring her on to have these

898
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Speaker 1: higher level discussions. But I also just believe in the

899
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Speaker 1: basics is as we've been talking about, and our ultimate

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Speaker 1: goal for for everybody is for you to enjoy food.

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Speaker 1: You know, I love that. Many years ago, as at

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Speaker 1: a nutrition conference and one of the well known speakers said,

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Speaker 1: you know, we as Americans sit down to eat and

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Speaker 1: think what can't I have on this plate? And that

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Speaker 1: is not the way we should do it. And that's

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Speaker 1: not the way I do it. I'm sure that's not

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Speaker 1: the way Wendy does it. So you need to find

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Speaker 1: the healthy foods that work for you. They may not

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Speaker 1: be eggs, but that can be a choice. So that

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Speaker 1: is why we do these types of shows, is to

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00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: give you the research behind the choices. You may say

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Speaker 1: I don't want to eat any animal products, that's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Then just do your research, you know, into what you

914
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Speaker 1: need to lead that lifestyle and it can be done.

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Speaker 1: And as Wendy said, it's it's challenging, but it can

916
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Speaker 1: be done. So there's no one way. Don't think that

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Speaker 1: that's what we're saying. But we are not going to

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Speaker 1: not give you the research into things like eggs and

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00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: other foods that might not be or not getting their

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Speaker 1: full do their full, you know, respect for what they are.

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00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: So again, we could go on forever. So hopefully you

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Speaker 1: got that eat your eggs, eat your yolks, moderation and

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Speaker 1: if you're getting fats and you know from other places

924
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: as Wendy said, beat cognizant of what you're eating all day, right, Wendy,

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00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: and and mix it up and enjoy your food. That's

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Speaker 1: what it's supposed to be. Absolutely focus on all the

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Speaker 1: foods we can eat. And a byproduct of that is

928
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: you'll be healthier, you'll be happier, you'll have better relationships,

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Speaker 1: a better relationship with food in general, and that's really

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Speaker 1: key for long term health. Perfect. Let's leave it at that.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't have put an exclamation point on it better, Wendy.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much your expertise, and everyone follow give

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Speaker 1: them all your social media because your tweets are are

934
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: so helpful. Oh, thank you so much. Yes, my Instagram

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00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: is a nutrition Underscore with Underscore Wendy, and my Twitter

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Speaker 1: is Wendy earl back Um. I look forward to connecting people.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much again, Tom for having me. It's

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Speaker 1: always a pleasure speaking with you. I love the content

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00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: that you promote yourself, so I truly appreciate the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to come on for a second time. I feel so

941
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: lucky and blessed, so thank you so much for having me.

942
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: Thank you for making the time listen it is it

943
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: is an honor and pleasure, and you know you are

944
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: helping people navigate these confusing waters. So thank you, and

945
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Speaker 1: I'm sure we're going to do it again, so be ready. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have a great day. Thank you so much, Wendy,

947
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: and we are back. Special thanks as always to Wendy

948
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Speaker 1: Earl Back for taking the time to lend her expertise,

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00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: which I hope you find helpful. And listen. So many

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Speaker 1: of the topics I discuss here on Fitness Disrupted, they're

951
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: loaded topics. They come with with you know, people are

952
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: gonna disagree, and that's fine and that it should be.

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00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: That's what the show is for. We're gonna discuss and debate,

954
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: but we're gonna do it with science, and we're gonna

955
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: do it with common sense, and we're gonna do it

956
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: with anecdotal. We're gonna take all those things together and

957
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 1: then we're gonna put it out there. But you're free

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00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: to choose to do what you want. But I want

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00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: to go back one final time because it's truly the

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00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 1: way I look at all of the topics like this,

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00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: and I talked about the squad analogy. I'm actually throwing

962
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: in one person anecdotal, but it it bears talking about okay.

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00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: So you know, I eat a lot of eggs, a

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Speaker 1: lot of eggs, and sounds like the research that I

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Speaker 1: look at that I believe that, you know that eggs

966
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: are okay moderation like anything else, there's still debate about

967
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: the cholesterol goes on and on and on. So it's

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00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: very simple. I'm gonna eat eggs in moderation for the

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00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: most part. But if i have a week or a

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00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: day where I'm eating more, I'm gonna If I'm eating

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Speaker 1: a six egg omelet, which is a lot, I'm gonna

972
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 1: front load my day. I may do four egg whites

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Speaker 1: and two yolks. So there's the moderation. I need protein.

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Speaker 1: You know, maybe that's a time when I'm trying to

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00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: build some muscle, so more eggs. But I'm gonna use

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Speaker 1: common sense, common sense along with the research, because I

977
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: don't want to go well, I don't believe that that

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00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: yolks are bad for you. There's there's a lot of

979
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: mixed messages. So I'm gonna make the smartest choice given

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00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,720
Speaker 1: what I have. Don't you give you that squat debate

981
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: and this could go on. You know, we have not

982
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 1: done this show. I have not done this show yet.

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00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: I will. But squatting past parallel, now, a lot of

984
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 1: people will tell you it's perfectly fine, it's maybe better,

985
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: just like eggs. And then there's others will say, you know,

986
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: increased risk of numerous issues, knee issues, lower back issues,

987
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 1: and I would say, there's so many people who squat

988
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: poorly to begin with, and to go to heavy squats

989
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 1: and then squats for you know, time, and stupid things

990
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: like that. In my opinion, okay, you got problems, but

991
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: there's no benefit that I found where someone says, wow,

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00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 1: if you don't go past parallel, you are missing out.

993
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: You're like, it's not even like you're getting any results.

994
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm still getting results. And here's the thing, what if

995
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,760
Speaker 1: they're wrong? What if you're wrong? What if going past

996
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: parallel is bad for you? Because here's the thing. It's

997
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: not like you do it once you go, oh that

998
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: really hurt. No, this is cumulative. This is cumulative. And

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00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 1: the problem, as I've said on so many other topics,

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00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: is then when people generally get hurt by something, they

1001
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,479
Speaker 1: don't attribute it to that thing. They blame something else,

1002
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: and you, Trevor never truly know. And that's part of

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Speaker 1: The whole beauty of we talked about here on every

1004
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 1: show is there's the science and there's the real world stuff,

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00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: and then you got to kind of figure out causality.

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00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: And that's that can be challenging depending on what we're

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00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 1: talking about. But I choose to generally go for squads

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00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: right about parallel, and I choose to moderate how many

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00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: yolks I eat and how many eggs I eat, excessive

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00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: moderation with everything. And just that quick story. There was

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00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: a guy many years ago who was a rower and

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00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: he had a son who was also an athlete, and

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00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 1: I did a consultation and we had this discussion about squatting,

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00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: and he ripped into me that I didn't know what

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00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: I was talking that there was all this research that

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Speaker 1: showed and rustred and research that squatting past parallel, not

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00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: only again was not bad for you, was so good

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00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: for you. Like, okay, we can agree to disagree. I'm

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00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,280
Speaker 1: gonna miss out on that for my goals. Didn't didn't

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Speaker 1: need it. Fast forward twenty years, ten years, not even

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00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:03,439
Speaker 1: ten years. Ten years later, I saw him. I couldn't walk,

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Speaker 1: major major back issues. Was it from that? Who knows?

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Speaker 1: I'll leave it at that. Okay, so that is definitely

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Speaker 1: an an equals one study. I could give you more,

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00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 1: but that was an extreme one. And do I know

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00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 1: that what he was doing. You know he's also doing

1027
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: many other things that could have added to that or

1028
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: been the cause of that, but you know, it is

1029
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 1: what it is. So be smart. Take the research, take

1030
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: uh common sense, and put it together and then make

1031
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 1: informed choices based on that. And that's what we do here.

1032
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: That's what I bring people like Wendy on because she

1033
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: truly is going to take that evidence based science and

1034
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna make decisions. So hope you enjoyed that I did.

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Speaker 1: I love talking to Wendy and people like that who

1036
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: helped make us all better. And that's the goal of

1037
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: my guests, make us all better, not just you. You know,

1038
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 1: I am learning every day, open book reading as much

1039
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,240
Speaker 1: as I can, taking it in because everything is changing.

1040
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: But we're gonna make smart decisions. Okay, enough, thank you

1041
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: again for listening. Please rate the show if you haven't,

1042
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: and I always say thank you. If you have already

1043
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: comments and questions, you can leave them potentially where you

1044
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: listen to the show, depending on which podcast UH server

1045
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Speaker 1: type you're using. Uh. If not, you can go to

1046
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: tom h Fit Twitter, tom h fit is my Instagram,

1047
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: or go right to Fitness disrupted dot com. If you

1048
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: have questions or comments, you can contact me there and

1049
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: thank you for listening. Please tell a friend, share, And

1050
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: that's my goal. Help you to look better, feel better,

1051
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: and live longer. That is what I'm selling. That is it.

1052
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: I love my job, I love what I do and

1053
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Speaker 1: I want you to have the healthiest, happiest, injury free

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Speaker 1: life you can have. That's my goal. Thank you for listening.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tom Holland this is Fitness Disrupted. Believe in yourself.

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