1 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: by my trusted colleague Wes Hodkowitz. Coming to you once 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: again from our studios here at Lambeufield West. We're back 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: from Indy. A lot of ground to cover on today's show. 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: Quite frankly, we'll start with the preseason game from Saturday 7 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. And whether you're talking about the reserves on 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: offense the reserves on defense, this game was all about 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: the response because things were not going well for the Packers. 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: The score was thirteen to nothing at one point, but 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: by the end of the day the scoreboard read twenty 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: three to nineteen in favor of Green Bay. And you 13 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: can talk about whether it was twos versus threes and 14 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: this and that and the other, but the Packers found 15 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: out that the guys they have that are going to 16 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: be filling out this depth chart, they proved they could 17 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: respond to some adverse circumstances. 18 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I mean, this was a yeoman's effort 19 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: on so many levels, right, I Mean, it wasn't just 20 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 2: it was one big seventy five yard touchdown pass or 21 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: interception return for a touchdown. It was kind of this 22 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 2: all three phase effort, and I felt like the second half, 23 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: the beginning of the third quarter, everything kind of switched. 24 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: You know. We talked after the game, was talking with 25 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 2: Israel about a Conda about this. You know, they had 26 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: that fourteen play drive and as he ended up getting 27 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: a game ball, he had eleven carries on that drive, 28 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: and he just kept thinking to himself, I got to 29 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: get in the end zone. Ben Sermons talks all the 30 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: time to these running backs, you have to be the 31 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 2: tone setters. The Packers needed something to change their momentum. 32 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 2: They did it on that drive. And the most impressive 33 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: thing of all was they started stringing together these longer 34 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: series without the penalties. And we're chatting with Sean Clifford 35 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: about this after the game, and he said, you know, 36 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 2: that was really the only thing that held us back. 37 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: Was not just the penalties, but it was pre snap penalties. 38 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: It was those concentration penalties that you don't want to see. 39 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: Other than that, I actually think the Packers it was 40 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: a pretty good accounting for themselves. They had to play 41 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: a lot of the starters in the first half of 42 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: the Indianapolis Colts, and they made some plays against them 43 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: despite the fact that they obviously, as you mentioned, trailed 44 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: thirteen to zero at one point, and then in the 45 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: second half to see them pull themselves back into this 46 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: thing and then have a rather dramatic ending to the 47 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 2: game with Tehran Hopper getting a PBu on a play 48 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: that went right down to the wire. 49 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: And officials had to Ron Herring, Ron Herring, excuse me? Yeah? 50 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 2: Too many? Yeah, I got too many names, too many names. 51 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: I'm getting past all the Israels right now, getting too. 52 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: Many names to keep track of. Yes, Tyron Harry with 53 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: a heck of a play at the pylon there on 54 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: the final play of the game. It sure looked like 55 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 1: the Colts either were going to have a touchdown or 56 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: we're going to be marked out at the one yard 57 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: line inside the one with a couple seconds left on 58 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: the clock, But replay showed that the hit that took 59 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: him to the ground, he wasn't able to maintain possession 60 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: of the ball, so the game ended there. Because that 61 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: was on fourth and ten, we saw Taylor Elgersma direct 62 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: multiple touchdown drives for the Packers. I thought the young 63 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: quarterback from Canada acquitted himself pretty well. I mean, yeah, 64 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: a couple of decisions I think he'd like to have back. 65 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: But considering he only had one series in the first 66 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: preseason game, and this was really his first extended chance 67 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: in a preseason game to kind of get into a rhythm, 68 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 1: get out there for you know, come to the sideline, 69 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: go back out, you know, all of those kinds of 70 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: things that get you into the flow of a game. Though, 71 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: I thought on balance, he performed pretty well. Certainly when 72 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: the protection was there and he had the conviction on 73 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: his throw, you could see the arm strength. You could 74 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: see that this is why the Packers brought this guy in. 75 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: And then Sean Clifford, whom we've seen in these preseason 76 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: games over the last couple of years. He ends up 77 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: taking the ball on the final drive, converts a fourth 78 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: down by himself, ends up getting the touchdown, you know, 79 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: kind of calling his own number, a little bit of 80 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: improv there, but makes the sprint to the pylon. So 81 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: I thought both of the Packers' young quarterbacks, and we 82 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: don't know how this is going to shake out in 83 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: terms of who's going to be the number three, but 84 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: I thought both of them had something that they could 85 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: take some pride in from those performances. 86 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: I asked Sean after the game. I was like, what 87 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 2: did you see on that touchdown run? He's like, I 88 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: saw a holding and I saw a wide open lane 89 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 2: to the end because he was actually, as I wrote 90 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: in our notes package, he was looking at Cornelius Johnson. 91 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: That was the read that he had, but he kind 92 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 2: of got held up in the end zone. So as 93 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: it turned out, there ended up being eleven yards in 94 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 2: front of him and nothing but Peter there. So he 95 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 2: took it himself. He called his own number, and then 96 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 2: the Packers were able to hold on for the victory. 97 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: But yeah, I just felt like that competition, but at 98 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 2: the quarnerback position, this is where it always starts. To 99 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: get a little bit more spotlight on it, right, and 100 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: for Eldersma to be able to get the work that 101 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: he did. I mean, he ended up going what was 102 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: a three or four series. He was obviously the one 103 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 2: that started getting that kick started with this Packer's comeback. 104 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 2: The thing I like about it, Matt Leffuor said at 105 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: his press conference on Sunday, you do need to be smart. 106 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 2: He took some contact, made some tough throws, there at 107 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: times that could have potentially put in the ball at danger. 108 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,559 Speaker 2: But I honestly believe that's what you want to see 109 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 2: from a guy competing for the third quarterback spot. You 110 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 2: want to see them trying to go out there and 111 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 2: make plays. And I felt like he did that and 112 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 2: more than anything his arm talent from the day that 113 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 2: we saw him at the rookie mini camp on tryout, 114 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 2: he could throw football. In one story I didn't really understand. 115 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 2: I didn't know it. Obviously didn't understand, but I didn't 116 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: know until Matt Schneidven brought it up during the press 117 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: conference with assistant coaches on Sunday, was that Packers pass 118 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: game coordinator Jason Rabel actually coached him when Eldersma was 119 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 2: invited to go to. 120 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: The Senior Senior ball down and Mobile. Yeah, Jane, I 121 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: didn't know that either. 122 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I guess if I would have just looked 123 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: at a roster, I would have figured that out. But 124 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 2: be that as it may, I just felt like there 125 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 2: were a lot of young guys that really stepped up 126 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: and competed. Julian Hicks had a beautiful catch. I believe 127 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 2: that one was from Eldersma down the sideline, but it 128 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 2: got wiped out by a holding penalty. 129 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: Might have been from Willis actions. Actually it might have 130 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: been earlier in the game when Malik Willis was in there, 131 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: when there was a stretch there where the Packers, essentially 132 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: the number two offense was going against the starting defense 133 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: for the Colts. And same thing as you mentioned before 134 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: with the Colts starting offenses. They're trying to sort out 135 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones Anthony Richardson at quarterback. Their starters were going 136 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: against the Packers' reserves on defense, and I thought, I mean, yeah, 137 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: you're not expecting, you know, domination, But I don't think 138 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: the Colts starters dominated the Packers. I thought I thought 139 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 1: the Packers reserve units did well there. And of course, 140 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: probably the epitome of the respond to adversity, the bounce 141 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: back type of nature of this game was embodied in 142 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: the rookie second round draft pick Anthony Belton that right tackle. 143 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: He ends up getting called for five penalties a variety 144 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: of different things. There was a personal file on the sideline. 145 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: There were a couple of alignment issues when the Packers 146 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: were driving to try to score at the ind of 147 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: the first half, and a couple other things in between, 148 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: and he went back out there. The coaches put him 149 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: back out there in the second half. They said, all right, 150 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: young man, like, let's clean it up, let's get things going. 151 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: And to Belton's credit, he went out there and and 152 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: suddenly his game was cleaned up, though the entire offense 153 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: quite frankly, you know, as you mentioned, the penalties were reduced. 154 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: And I just I give Anthony Belton a lot of 155 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: credit because because that that's a moment for a rookie 156 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: in a preseason game. Guys can shrink from that and 157 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: he and he absolutely did not. He was put back 158 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: out there, he took charge of the situation and then 159 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: he performed the way the Packers coaches expect him to perform. 160 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: And I tipped my hat to the young man. 161 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: And I tipped my hat to the Packers coaching staff. 162 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: They didn't just let him go through that first half 163 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 2: and say all right, we're gonna switch things up, We're 164 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: gonna go a different direction, right. They let him work 165 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 2: through it, and I mean, it was obviously a low point. 166 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: When you go back to back plays with the legal formation, 167 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 2: as Matt Lafloyd talked about, you know, that is somewhat 168 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: on it not just Belton that's on the offensive line. 169 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: Because Belton's lining up to where the foot is of 170 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 2: his right guard next to him, the quarterback has to 171 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: make sure you're right there as well. There was multiple 172 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 2: people in play. But at the end of the day, 173 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: I felt like, and I wrote this an insider inbox, 174 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 2: we learned a little bit about the man in Anthony 175 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: Belton though, just the prospect as a tackle, and in 176 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 2: the second half I thought he played exceptionally well. I 177 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: mean that Lamar Johnson run was all Belton in the 178 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 2: offensive line, just second effort, just pushing their running back 179 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 2: into the end zone, you know, Johnson trying to keep 180 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: his feet moving and seeing if you can make something happen. 181 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 2: And again I felt like, when you're looking at a 182 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: young football player, a second round pick, but yet still 183 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 2: a guy that is four months into his NFL career, 184 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: here there's going to be adversity, and I felt like 185 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 2: Belton met that adversity in the first half and found 186 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: a way to respond to it in the second. 187 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, unfortuntunately, there were some more injuries to come 188 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: out of the game in Indianapolis. At the top of 189 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: the list second year running back Marshall Lloyd, the third 190 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: round draft pick from USC a year earlier. He finally 191 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: gets back into action. He makes a great play, a 192 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: great catch on a wheel route down the sideline, but 193 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: takes a hit and puts his leg in an awkward 194 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: position and he's out once again with a hamstring injury. 195 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: Extremely unfortunate there. I'll just run through a few others 196 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: quickly and we'll get back to Lloyd. Baron Surrell, the 197 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: rookie fourth round draft pick, he sustained a knee injury. 198 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: I believe it was on special teams if I'm not mistaken. 199 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: Sounds like he's going to be out for a little bit. 200 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: The young safety Omar Brown, who was the star family night, 201 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: he ended up having to spend some extra time in 202 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: Indianapolis over the weekend, did not come back with the 203 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: team because of a chest or lung injury and he 204 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: needed to go to the hospital. So hopefully everything with 205 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: Brown is okay. But getting back to Lloyd, Look, I 206 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: know the fans are frustrated. I'll I'll just say this, 207 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: if you're frustrated as a fan because of everything that's 208 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: happened with Marshawn Lloyd and he hasn't been able to 209 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: stay healthy and hasn't been able to be on the 210 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: practice field and in the games as frequently as everybody 211 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: would like. Just try to imagine how frustrating this is 212 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: for him, because this is a player with a ton 213 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: of promise and he does everything right and for some reason, 214 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: you know, his body is just betraying him at at 215 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: you know, strange moments and it isn't. Believe me, if 216 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: there were other things that could be done, the Packers 217 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: and Lloyd would be doing it. And I think you 218 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: just have to chalk this up to some really really 219 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: bad luck and you hope the young man can get 220 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: through it and come out the other side. As Ben 221 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: Sermon said when he spoke to the media on Sunday, 222 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: this is a supporting him. This isn't about getting down 223 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: on him because oh geez, he's heard again. You know. 224 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: This is about supporting him and trying to get him 225 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: through it and get him to the other side. Because 226 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: the Packers feel like there is a player who can 227 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: help this team in that unfortunately troubled physical body. Right now. 228 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, this isn't West showing up for work and being 229 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 2: like I don't feel like doing this right. I mean, 230 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: you got scans, you have cat scans all this that 231 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 2: show you that what his body's going through, the soft 232 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: tissue injuries that he's been weathering. Going back to his 233 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 2: time at Madison in January, going down there to try 234 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 2: to find out more about his body and what he 235 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 2: can do to align himself properly. I think the toughest 236 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 2: thing for me with Lloyd. And again another thing I 237 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 2: touched on an insider inbox. This is a young man 238 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 2: that has done everything right in the standpoint of trying 239 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 2: to get his body right, but then also the way 240 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 2: he's handled this, he's been accountable. He hasn't run away 241 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 2: from this. In the locker room, you know, when guys 242 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: come and talk to him, whether it's him not being 243 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 2: able to practice or whether it's him coming back. He 244 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: always has this infectious enthusiasm about the game of football. 245 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 2: And listened to him last week before the game talk 246 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 2: about how he just wants to play again. It had 247 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 2: been almost a year since the last Colts game and 248 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: it really he considers it back to college is the 249 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: last time he's really truly played in a game. And 250 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 2: then unfortunately this happens, and unfortunately it also happens on 251 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: a play in which he really shows his potential as 252 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 2: a pass catcher. Yeah, that thirty three yard wheel route 253 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: was one of the plays of the game, one of 254 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 2: the highlights of the game, and unfortunately at the tail 255 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 2: end of it, he gets banged up. The one thing 256 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: I'll mention too, Brian Goodekuntz was kind of asked about 257 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: him in a backdoor kind of way about the injuries 258 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 2: he's weather, and he used, you know, Mike Flanagan in 259 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: his example, to be honest with you. This kind of 260 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 2: reminds me of the James Stark situation when he first 261 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: got to Green Bay, where he obviously missed most of 262 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: his rookie year. He comes back for the playoff game. 263 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 2: He had to weather some soft tissue injuries and some 264 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: knee injuries early on, but then ultimately ended up becoming 265 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 2: a pretty stable piece for Green Bay. You hope that 266 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: that's where Lloyd can get to, but obviously right now 267 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 2: we're back in a holding pattern and seeing when number 268 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 2: thirty two can get on the field. 269 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. I actually liked that that comparison with Starks. Obviously, 270 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: starts rookie year ended in very different fashion than than 271 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: Marshawn Lloyd's Lloyd's did you wonder and I just say, 272 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: obviously everything is hypothetical. You wonder where Marshaw Lloyd's rookie 273 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: year goes if not for suddenly the appendicitis. 274 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 2: Right. 275 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: I mean, this was not even something that was football related, 276 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 1: something that can happen to anybody in their life at 277 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: any time, and it just so happened with him when 278 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: he was right about to get back on the field 279 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 1: last season. He gets the appendicitis, has to have the appendectomy, 280 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: and then of course you just need the recovery time 281 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: because you can't send your body out there to get 282 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: you know, pounded by all the core muscle tacklers. Yeah, exactly. 283 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: So anyway, our fingers are crossed for Lloyd and uh 284 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: and hopefully at some point here he gets he gets through. 285 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 2: All of them before we move on. He's just gonna 286 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 2: give a hat tip to Omar Brown. To Matt Lafleur 287 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 2: mentioned that that injury, the lung contusion, everything that happened 288 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 2: that actually happened earlier in the game. I stayed on 289 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 2: the field, I think it was was it through the 290 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 2: beginning of the third quarter, then finally had to pull 291 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 2: himself out. 292 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Lafleur said he played about twelve more minutes of 293 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: game action before he before he took himself out. 294 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 2: And that's toughness, dude. 295 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you and you want to know just how 296 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: just how badly these guys want to perform and to 297 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: make the team when you're fighting for a roster spot 298 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: in this league. I mean that was exhibit A right there. 299 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: A couple other things to get to with regard to 300 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: Monday's practice after we got back to Green Bay, But 301 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: first we'll hear for this word from our sponsors. Serious 302 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: XM NFL Radio delivers hard hitting analysis and up to 303 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: the minute NFL news that true football fanatics need. Twenty 304 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: four to seven, three sixty five. At Cousin Subs, we 305 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: have something for everyone, like our Wisconsin cheese curds, mac 306 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: and Cheese, golden fries, and creamy shakes, all paired with 307 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: your favorite sub or sub and a bowl. 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We did find out about a few more injuries. 316 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: We don't necessarily know the severity on these, but Lucas 317 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: van Ness, Kenny Clark, and Aaron Banks were all resting 318 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: during Monday's practice because of back issues. Jacob Monk, the 319 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: young offensive lineman, second year player, he has a hamstring issue. 320 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens going through the rest of 321 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: this week with a full pads practice on Tuesday, and 322 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: then obviously the joint practice with the Seahawks coming up 323 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: on Thursday. But the bigger news from Monday's practice is 324 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: that quarterback Jordan Love was back at practice and Matt 325 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: Lafleur and the coaches they modified things to incorporate a 326 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: couple of seven on seven periods, which is not something 327 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: that Matt lafler likes. He doesn't like that drillly doesn't 328 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: feel it's realistic. But the seven on seven where essentially 329 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: it's just the quarterback with the receivers against the linebackers 330 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: and dbs, so there aren't any linemen out there. It 331 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: was really the only way for Jordan Love to sort 332 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: of make some live throwing reps, but without putting his 333 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: left hand in any kind of harm's way, so to speak. 334 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: There wasn't gonna be any chance that it would hit 335 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: on a helmet of alignment, or or there'd be any 336 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: contact with the left hand. And the way Love conducted 337 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: the practice with taking the ball off of a stool 338 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: for like a regular snap and just holding it in 339 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: his hand in his right hand for a shotgun snap, 340 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: it was all about basically him going through the practice 341 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: as though he didn't even have a left hand. I 342 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: believe he ended up with twelve reps twelve throws in 343 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: each of the seven on seven periods. So we'll see 344 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: what happens from here again the rest of this week 345 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: and then heading into next week as the Packers then 346 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: start ramping things up for the regular season. But it 347 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: was awfully good to see Jordan Love back on the practice. 348 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, and for them to be able to find a 349 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,959 Speaker 2: way to incorporate him. You have your franchise quarterback, one 350 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 2: of your superstars of your team. You don't want them 351 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: just standing on the sideline, you know, just waiting for 352 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 2: this ligament to heal back up. You want to try 353 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: to incorporate him if there's a way to incorporate him. 354 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 2: I felt like the seven on seven accomplished that. I 355 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 2: think one thing mattl Floor did too that was a 356 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 2: good adjustment was they prioritize the red zone at the 357 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 2: end of practice as well. That probably is where it 358 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 2: gets a little bit more realistic because now you're condensing 359 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 2: the secondary. Yes you're not throwing over offensive lineman, Yes 360 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: you don't have a rush in your face. But it 361 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 2: does make the quarterback make some of those decisions he's 362 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 2: going to have to make rather than just trying to 363 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 2: do a goal ball or something during the regular midfield practice. 364 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 2: So and in that period, I felt like Love made 365 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 2: one of the plays of the day. I mean, he 366 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 2: had showed remarkable touch on that corner route to Matthew Golden. 367 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, kudos to Golden. 368 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: I mean this practice, man, it poured midway through practice. 369 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 2: Poor you know, Malik Willis and Taylor Eldrisma and also 370 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 2: Sean Clifford. They had to go through the eleven on 371 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 2: eleven when it was just a monsoon out there, and 372 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: while it lightened up it still was very wet. 373 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: I was talking. It was still a steady rain throughout 374 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: the whole. 375 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,359 Speaker 2: I was talking to Evan Williams at the end of it, 376 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 2: who was one of the corners or one of the 377 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: safeties that was defending on the golden touchdown, and he 378 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 2: actually ended practice with an interception. He's like, yeah, I was, 379 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 2: you know, it was slipping through my gloves with how 380 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 2: much water there was. Fortune I was able to crowd 381 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 2: against my body and he made a nice play. But 382 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 2: they had to adjust to it, and they did so. 383 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 2: But for Love to be able to get out there 384 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 2: in any capacity, again, as you mentioned the shotgun snaps, 385 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 2: he's starting with the ball already in his throwing hand. 386 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 2: When they were working under center, he was, you know, 387 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 2: doing the stuff off the stool, and you know, the 388 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 2: packers made it work. This was the practice where they 389 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 2: kind of had to get some work in with Jordan 390 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 2: Love because we don't know one what it's going to 391 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 2: look like at Tuesday's practice, which is going to be 392 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: more of a traditional public practice, and then obviously Thursday, 393 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 2: you're not going to do those type of drills against 394 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 2: the Seahawks. So they got in the work that they 395 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 2: could with the practice that they were allotted. 396 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: It was kind of funny. I thought it was interesting. 397 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: A couple of times watching Love you could tell he 398 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: had to he had to resist the habit that he 399 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: has of patting the ball with his left hand. He 400 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: had to keep his left hand away, you know, as 401 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 1: he's as he's making the reads and and you know, 402 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: adjusting his feet and whatnot. And it was like, it 403 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: was like, no, that left hand is not supposed to 404 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: touch anything. 405 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: Like it's only like twenty years of habits. 406 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, leave it, leave it alone. Old habits die hard. 407 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: But he but he did everything he could to uh, 408 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: to protect that that surgically repaired thumb. So one other 409 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: thing to touch on with regard to Monday's practices is 410 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: we saw Rashid Walker is ramping up here getting back 411 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: to you know what you would consider, I guess, full 412 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: go or full speed, full complement of reps and everything 413 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: we've been told. Now Rashid Walker and Jordan Morgan, this 414 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: is a this is a full fledged competition for the 415 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: starting left tackle spot on the offensive line. Now, in 416 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 1: Monday's practice, Walker was taking all the reps at left 417 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: tackle and Morgan was taking the reps with the number 418 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: one offensive line at left guard because Aaron Banks was 419 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: sitting out with the back issue. So but this left 420 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: tackle competition is going to go all the way to 421 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: the end, and for all we know, it may not 422 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,719 Speaker 1: even be decided at the end, because maybe ultimately, if 423 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: everybody else is healthy, they'll choose to rotate the guys 424 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 1: for a while and then see during games who ends 425 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: up winning it. I'm not saying that's what's going to happen, 426 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: but based on recent history, it's certainly a possibility. Here. 427 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 1: The challengers Jordan Morgan, the incumbent is Rashid Walker, and 428 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: everything that we've seen and heard from these players, they're 429 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: both taking the right approach to it. They're teammates, nobody's 430 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,719 Speaker 1: taking anything for granted, there isn't any ill will about it. 431 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: The coaches are just letting them go at it and 432 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: see who emerges as the best guy. 433 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is an incredible situation for the Packers to 434 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 2: be in. I mean, Rashid Walker can be starting for 435 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 2: so many teams at left tackle in this league with 436 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 2: what he's put on tape over the last two year. 437 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: So even thirty five starts, including playoffs, that left tackle. 438 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, just to be able to do that now and 439 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 2: be able to get this type of work in and 440 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 2: certainly hoping to put this groin injury behind him. I 441 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 2: find it a bit quizzical, to be honest with you, 442 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 2: And I understand why these narratives get driven, but it 443 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: was funny to me where everybody we're even sitting there 444 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 2: on Saturday trying to figure out, Okay, well, if Walker plays, 445 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 2: how are they going to divide up the snaps. Well, 446 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 2: then you go into Monday's practice and Aaron Banks isn't available. 447 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 2: So I think this again speaks to the type of 448 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 2: flexibility they're going to have to have, not only with 449 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 2: Morgan but also Sean Ryan potentially this season. Agay, that 450 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 2: can play the three interior spots. That's how this game 451 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 2: is played, and you never know who you're gonna have. 452 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 2: You never know when someone might be unavailable, and you 453 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 2: have to be able to adapt to it. That be 454 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 2: in a position where Walker is there and Morgan is 455 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 2: playing as well as he has so far, it puts 456 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 2: screen By in a good spot there With that number 457 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 2: six swing tackle or whatever you want to call it. 458 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that, As I've said before, this number 459 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: six guy on the offensive line could go any number 460 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: of ways, could end up being Rashid Walker. And if 461 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: that's a if a guy who started thirty five games 462 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,919 Speaker 1: that left tackle is your number six guy, that's not 463 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: a bad spot to be in. It could be Jordan Morgan. 464 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: And if your number six guy is a first round 465 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,959 Speaker 1: draft pick, that's not a bad spot to be in. 466 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: Or it could be Sean Ryan, a guy who has 467 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: started a good, you know, full season's worth plus at 468 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: right guard, but has also shown that he can play 469 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: center and whatnot. If that's if that's your number six guy. 470 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: The way this shakes out, that's a pretty good spot 471 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: to be in as well. So we don't know exactly 472 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: how this is going to go, but I think the 473 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: Packers feel pretty good about it as long as they 474 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: can keep all their main guys healthy. 475 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 2: You wrote a really nice story on Walker and kudos 476 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 2: you for that. But I got to give him credit 477 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 2: for the SoundBite of the locker room that Monday, and 478 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: also maybe if training camp when we were reflecting on 479 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 2: all the issues and how difficult the first half was 480 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 2: for young Anthony Belton, Walker said he was eating a clementine. 481 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 2: I think it was at halftime or it was on 482 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 2: the sideline or something like that. 483 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: I think I think it was that halftime. 484 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 2: And he's just, hey, what do you say to a 485 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 2: guy that just got five penalties? Eat it? 486 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 1: Yeah? And he's getting kind of getting yelled at by everybody, 487 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: coaches and everybody else, and he says, yeah, I just 488 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 1: threw him a snack. I just said, hey, eat this clementine. 489 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: Take a deep breath, like it'll all be good. And 490 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: he's like, he ate the clementine and he had a 491 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: good second half. 492 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 2: It doesn't do it justice. You gotta go to Packers 493 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 2: dot com or you gotta go on to Twitter. You 494 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 2: gotta see the video of it, because the way that 495 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 2: Rasid tells the story, it just brought a smile to 496 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 2: my face. It was It was a good, lighthearted moment 497 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 2: amidst the calamity of training camp. 498 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: Totally agree, Totally agree, and with that, we're gonna call 499 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: it a rap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be 500 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: sure to continue to follow all of our coverage of 501 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: the team this final week of training camp here. We'll 502 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: have it all for you on Packers dot com. For Wes, 503 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: I'm Mike. Thank you for tuning in everybody. We will 504 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: see you next time.