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Speaker 6: Does do we sell the hurry?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh more so.

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Speaker 7: They lost the game because they didn't play complimentary football.

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Speaker 1: But they moved the ball. It was noted in post

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Speaker 1: and fifty yards moving the ball.

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Speaker 7: Get them out of here?

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, wow, out of here? All right?

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Speaker 7: What if they don't want that, then they're stupid?

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Evan is ma'am, Yes, sir, yes, ma'am.

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Speaker 6: What did he say?

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Speaker 7: Yes, sir, yes, ma Mike.

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Speaker 1: That's that's all I mean. And you we stepped all

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Speaker 1: over from that was brilliant.

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Speaker 2: Seven hundred percent improvement for the Patriots this week. But

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Speaker 2: they lose sixteen to seven.

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Speaker 6: Well, this is than seven hundred percent of zero.

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Speaker 1: Still zeroee Steve Malone, He's on a roll.

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Speaker 2: Paul and Duce and tomorrow will be back tomorrow because

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It's Wednesday here at

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Speaker 2: Jillette Stadium, a travel day for the team. So it's Deuce, Tamaraw, Evan, Paul,

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Speaker 2: myself as usual. However, Evan and I will be uh

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Speaker 2: getting out of here pretty soon because we get to

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Speaker 2: get on the bus, So I'll leave you with Deuce Tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: Paul and Matisse we'll join in go to the b Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's still a full show even without Evan and I.

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Speaker 2: But we got a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 6: Here, right Oh yeah, Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, you're about to go there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Mitch Trubisky, Yeah maybe no, Naji Harris, you missed practiced yesterday,

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Speaker 6: so uh, we're having a dueling top running backs being out.

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Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, but you know, when you look at the matchups,

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Speaker 2: advantage quarterback Steelers, even though it's Mitch Trubisky and he's

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Speaker 2: won games in the NFL.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, he's he's won two games in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: You know what, I stand corrected. I stand correct.

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Speaker 7: Risky might be two and like twenty somethings.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I stand corrected.

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Speaker 6: He gave them a hard time at Chicago. It's what

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Speaker 6: in seventeen, twenty, seventeen, twenty eight always.

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Speaker 2: Comes the well, you got to you gotta check, you

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Speaker 7: That was my first trip to Soldier Field.

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Speaker 1: Played well in that game, you're right, Well, yeah, and

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Speaker 1: well he was.

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Speaker 7: He ran a lot in that game, and I think

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Speaker 7: that's a big thing for the Patriots this week. You know,

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Speaker 7: the one thing that he can do is he can

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Speaker 7: extend plays with his legs. He can run, he can scramble,

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Speaker 7: and he can get outside the pocket. Peterson on our teams, Yes,

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Speaker 7: for Darryl.

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Speaker 1: He returned to kick game. Trubisky is thirty one and

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Speaker 1: twenty four as a starter.

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Speaker 2: Really in his career.

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Speaker 1: That's he has a winning record thirty one and twenty four.

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Speaker 6: It's a big difference between and twenty.

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Speaker 7: What's a winning record.

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Speaker 1: He was eleven and three in eighteen wow, eight and seven,

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Speaker 1: the next year six and three, uh, and then two

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Speaker 7: Some people say they gave up on him too fast.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well maybe what he had like the year in

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Speaker 1: I think that's correct.

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Speaker 2: So they've got the experience at the quarterback position in

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Speaker 5: We also have better weapons.

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Speaker 2: They have better weapons, so their offense better than our offense.

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Speaker 6: We know.

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Speaker 7: This is where this is.

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Speaker 2: I think defense is a toss up, right, our defense

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Speaker 6: Wats really, I mean, I mean, I think it would

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Speaker 7: Okay, yeahs defense really good. Their front is probably one

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Speaker 7: of the best that they've played all year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, the offenses don't play each other.

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Speaker 2: So their offense, their defense against our offense, our defense

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Speaker 2: our offense just doesn't score points. Yeah, you know that's

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Speaker 2: the place, isn't either, Well, this could literally not as

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Speaker 1: Well, no will last right, what are they like, did

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Speaker 1: you look that up there? They thirtieth something like that,

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Speaker 1: and who have they been playing teams teams.

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Speaker 5: Without their starting quarterback.

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Speaker 9: I mean, they beat the Bengals, but cool, but Joe

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Speaker 2: Okay, the other kids pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I mean they they scored sixteen in that game, and

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Speaker 7: So they're they're twenty eighth and scoring.

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Speaker 1: So they're so they don't score, they're averaging.

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Speaker 7: Sixteen a game. They fired their offensive coordinator two weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they went fifty nine games without getting even

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Speaker 1: four hundred yards in one game. So Paul, you're saying

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Speaker 1: there's a chance, I definitely think this.

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Speaker 9: Is I'm saying this could be another six nothing game.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 1: When the other team can't score, the game is I mean,

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Speaker 1: I choose, we made our pitch. We did our pitch yesterday, Freddy, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I picked Pittsburgh. So I'm not telling you I think

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Speaker 1: the Patriots are going to win. But I think what

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Speaker 1: Tamara said is very accurate. When neither team scores a lot,

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Speaker 1: anything can happen. You know, anybody can win turnovers.

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Speaker 6: Right, I guess I did a little digging though. Did

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Speaker 6: you know you got to go back all the way

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Speaker 6: to the twenty eleven Rams to find an offense that

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Speaker 1: Just out of curiosity, who was the coordinator of that

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Speaker 1: off I don't recall, you don't recall my shots fired?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody lost their job because what.

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Speaker 1: Offensive system did that team try to use? I pleaded

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Speaker 1: the fifth, Oh, that would be Josh McDaniels.

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Speaker 6: But there hasn't been a team under thirteen points over twelve.

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Speaker 7: I looked this up the other day because to put

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Speaker 7: in perspective for the Patriots, the last Patriots offense to

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Speaker 7: rust yere Yeah, nineteen and correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 7: Based off record, it's the worst Patriots season ever.

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Speaker 1: But based off of that's the worst team ever. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: So that's the worst Patriots team ever. And you are

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Speaker 7: Rust Patriots, Like just that's just.

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Speaker 6: Why it's historically bad. It's historically bad for them especially.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, like you have to after that, you have to

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Speaker 7: go back to like, you know, the sixties and like

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Speaker 7: bo Polini and stuff, like you were talking about a

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Speaker 7: different type of football at that point. So like you

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Speaker 7: you're really like.

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Speaker 1: Did you mean to say babe, yeah or whatever?

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Speaker 7: I literally I was born in nineteen ninety two.

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Speaker 1: Year is actually a person. Yeah who He was a

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Speaker 1: for a while.

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Speaker 7: See anyone was talking about and.

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Speaker 2: Fred will tell you not a fan of the No, No,

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Speaker 2: I have a funny Bopolini story. If anyone's into Bay.

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Speaker 7: Perley whatever, same thing. Anyway, all the same people to

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Speaker 7: me back when the Patriots stunted.

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Speaker 2: This is going to be another game that puts NFL

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Speaker 2: football back thirty years forty years.

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Speaker 6: Oh in on Thursday night too, so you got that

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Speaker 1: Thursday night games tend to be lower scoring, although last

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Speaker 1: week's was high scoring forty one thirty five.

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Speaker 2: Do we have a weather report for tomorrow night?

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Speaker 6: No, that's a good question. I thought you guys might

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Speaker 6: be on that. You guys are headed there in a minute.

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Speaker 7: No, I don't even want to look.

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Speaker 2: He's that for that?

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Speaker 6: If only there was a way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So it looks like it's going to be yeah,

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Speaker 7: pretty nice in terms of like Pittsburgh this time of

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Speaker 7: could have had a nice.

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Speaker 6: Day on the Pittsburgh in December sixty.

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Speaker 2: Driving thriving up from the Capes.

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Speaker 1: Very underrated place, that's what everybody's.

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Speaker 2: Talking abou from the Cape this morning. You would think

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Speaker 2: it never snowed before it was. I'm literally they closed

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Speaker 2: the Bourne Bridge because it was too icy. Really, they

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Speaker 2: putdn't didn't put salt down or whatever. So I had

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Speaker 6: Yikes, Which you gotta go. You gotta loop back to

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Speaker 6: the Saga. But you're close to the Sagamore anyway, Why

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Speaker 2: I went over the Sagamore and then I go over

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Speaker 6: You know that used to be how you had to

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Speaker 7: Is that a real place or is that like you

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Speaker 7: know in Candy Landers, right?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of Cranberry.

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Speaker 1: So can you just tell how excited to marry it

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Speaker 1: is just for this game.

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Speaker 7: I'm upset you're not.

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Speaker 1: I wish you could go.

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Speaker 2: Then your car start driving.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely my max. My max for road trips is like

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Speaker 9: two hours to reader have a responsibility to.

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Speaker 7: I used to drive to Anthaica, New York.

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Speaker 1: It's six hours.

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Speaker 2: No, But listen, you get your good podcast going.

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Speaker 9: Good control. Why am I wasting time?

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Speaker 2: Because you're not wasting time. You're it's your time when

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Speaker 2: you're in your car. When you're in a plane, it's

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Speaker 2: their time. They control you. When you're in a car,

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Speaker 2: you control the situation.

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Speaker 6: But mister hand, if we're all here, isn't it time

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Speaker 6: for me?

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Speaker 1: If anything here and Belichick's here, doesn't that make it

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Speaker 1: our time?

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Speaker 2: No? But for me anything less than four hours i'm driving,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I would agree.

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Speaker 1: The ability to have my car, I think.

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Speaker 5: Is how long is to drive Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh's probably more like seven hours Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 7: But well, the thing too about like you know, we

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Speaker 7: do this not to complain by any means, but you know,

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Speaker 2: We have to get on the bus by twelve thirty one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Like so if I started driving at ten o'clock this morning,

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Speaker 5: But you also left earlier.

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Speaker 5: I guess for me, I'm like spoiled one.

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Speaker 9: Providence Airport is like the size of this room, and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Providence is a breeze's.

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Speaker 9: And I have to pre check, so I literally just

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Speaker 6: You like professional plane traveler.

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Speaker 1: I am, Well, she travels a lot and that would

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Speaker 1: The Patriots have completely ruined me for travel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I do not want to travel commercially ever again. And

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Speaker 7: I get a lot of flak at the at the

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Speaker 1: I get for that too, but I hate it. I

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Speaker 2: You know, we got spoiled on chartists. Can you imagine

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Speaker 1: Oh you know I can, yeah, yeah, but they can

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Speaker 2: No, I know, but like imagine if like the jet

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Speaker 7: Get a new one going through the terminal.

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Speaker 6: My old job, my bosses used to say private flights,

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Speaker 6: just like the gas alone was like twenty times what

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Speaker 2: It's the uh, what is one of those net jets costs?

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Speaker 2: Like is it like fifty grand to go.

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Speaker 6: Like where you're in like kind of a group of

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Speaker 1: Thirty five.

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Speaker 7: Well, because like when we fly in places we like,

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Speaker 5: Want to fill everything on the Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But if the jets ten and it's thirty five thousand,

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Speaker 2: you split it thirty five hundred per person. That's still

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Speaker 2: it might be worth it if you really want.

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Speaker 6: The smallest jets are offered.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what ten people?

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Speaker 8: I'm saying it's sixty seven hundred an hour for the

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Speaker 6: Oh wow, and that's I don't even know if that

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Speaker 6: like that was like enough their surch charge in there

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Speaker 10: We're.

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Speaker 1: Travel talk.

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Speaker 7: That's what happens when you're two.

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Speaker 2: Nothing like nothing like the Army Navy game to get

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Speaker 1: I can't get one of those shots. I feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm the only one in the stadium that does not

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they don't get Yeah, they don't have any You

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Speaker 2: I don't like it?

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Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, I do fake? So did you not take us?

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Speaker 1: Can I take us?

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Speaker 9: Then?

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what Evidently everybody got one I didn't.

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Speaker 5: It was like an ice cream social Yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Think that was downstairs. Then, like, no one.

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Speaker 7: Cares you were you know, it was a wind He

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Speaker 1: I don't have to be here.

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Speaker 2: You had to go upstairs with I think it was

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Speaker 6: It wasn't there was it was?

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Speaker 5: It was ice cream?

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Speaker 6: How did it not catch you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I went up there and I didn't even have the

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Speaker 1: Which now, now, in all seriousness, does it make any

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Speaker 6: No, that's come on, That's what I was wondering. But

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Speaker 2: A company here repainting the hole. The whole service tunnel

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Speaker 2: see the new Yeah, we did that was pretty cool. Cool,

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Speaker 2: like Tom Brady and Julian Edelman and Tom Brady, it's

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Speaker 2: the revs and monster you know, things that have happened

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Speaker 2: and it's really cool. Yeah. The other ones are like

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Speaker 7: I wasn't sure if we were to talk about those

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Speaker 7: going from Damien Harris to the Brady on the week

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Speaker 7: one this year photo that we have up there now

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Speaker 7: was like the that's the biggest upgraded like you ever

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Speaker 7: could possibly.

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Speaker 1: Can think Smith no sucks like Matt, it was tireless

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Speaker 1: and trying to get that replaced, and they finally did

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Speaker 7: That's a fantastic picture of Brady on the podium, like

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Speaker 6: Wow, it's crazy. How much like that that was the

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Speaker 6: goes by three years ago. Yes, yes, I mean I

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Speaker 6: remember seeing Brady. I mean that's you know, it does.

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Speaker 1: The season goes by fast, it does, but that particular

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Speaker 2: It seems like yesterday.

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Speaker 1: But I do agree with you, Freddy. The season, the

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Speaker 2: Well, and part of it, like to me, the Brady

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Speaker 1: Oh that's a good point, you know, it's a good point.

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Speaker 2: What is it?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 6: I mean, Buffalo's win was was cool for me just

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Speaker 6: because my kids were there and we have all games

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Speaker 6: for them to have a first Patriot Like.

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Speaker 1: Deuce's kids go to the game. It's twenty nine, twenty five.

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Speaker 1: My kid goes to the game with six nothing and

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Speaker 1: I got a right, I got a bike. Was awesome.

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Speaker 6: And then and the kids were sitting right above where

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Speaker 6: the Kasiki touchdown happened, and they got a great video.

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Speaker 2: What's up was looking at us through the window, looking

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Speaker 1: It was just paying paying morel money. Evidently just get

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Speaker 1: me lunched. I'm sure that's what it was.

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Speaker 2: Morning he stole that started the whole thing. Um all right,

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Speaker 2: Pass five hundred is the ace ticket hot line getting

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Speaker 2: back to the Patriots in football anything we need to

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Speaker 2: know that's occurred this week. I know it's been a

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Speaker 5: John Jones, did you guys ever talking about that Walter.

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Speaker 2: Payton Man of the Year. Yeah, So he's the Patriots

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Speaker 2: nominee for Walter Payton Man of the Year, which is

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Speaker 2: a big deal. You know, the winner, the league winner

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Speaker 2: Jones the year.

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Speaker 5: He does so much in the community.

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Speaker 9: I'm like, how do you have time, especially like here

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Speaker 2: Like y nice little piece on pages dot com about that.

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Speaker 2: So that's nice.

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Speaker 1: Football wise, practice was later yesterday, So Evan's update it would.

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Speaker 6: Have been a good one too, a good one.

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Speaker 7: There's a couple of things going on. I would say.

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Speaker 7: The biggest thing is, you know, sometimes we we see

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Speaker 2: As opposed kicking as opposed to like, you know, doing

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Speaker 7: They were kicking as they tend to do. But the

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Speaker 1: Was the other dude.

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Speaker 6: It was the other kicker, Matthew.

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Speaker 7: Matthew Wright on the practice squad. Now, who does have

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Speaker 7: I'm not trying to sit here and tell you that

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Speaker 2: Agree, well, I mean, did you I don't know if

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Speaker 2: but somebody said Ryland in pregame missed five straight.

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Speaker 1: Down all of the gents. I'm not sure if Evan

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but it was something deep like.

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Speaker 2: Fifty three.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's why you know they didn't kick. I

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Speaker 1: Was a shorter one than that that they they went

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Speaker 7: Yard Okay, maybe that was it. And Bill after the

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Speaker 7: And I think that there's a chance, there's a chance

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Speaker 1: straight whatever. But at two and ten, is that the

449
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Speaker 1: best way to handle a rookie?

450
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Speaker 6: You can see what you're getting at. I don't know's

451
00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,920
Speaker 6: that's I think a good question. I mean, you want

452
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Speaker 6: to see him work through it. You invested a draft

453
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Speaker 6: pick in this kid, you know you like him. It's

454
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Speaker 6: got a good leg.

455
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Speaker 2: That's one way to look at it. But the other

456
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Speaker 2: way to look at it is the rest of the team.

457
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Speaker 2: Am I doing a disservice to the rest of the

458
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Speaker 2: team by just protting out this guy that can't make

459
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Speaker 2: kicks when we're involved in We're involved in ten seven,

460
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Speaker 2: ten six games, nothing where every point is critical.

461
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Speaker 1: I'm letting down eleven games of pathetic, I know, but I'm.

462
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Speaker 2: Not doing what I have to do at that position.

463
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Speaker 1: I let it down.

464
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Speaker 9: You did that for a million weeks with Mac Jones,

465
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Speaker 9: So why not let Chad Ryland have the same amount

466
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Speaker 9: of Well.

467
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Speaker 2: I could make the same argument with Mac Jones. Maybe

468
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Speaker 2: that was mishandled as well.

469
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Speaker 7: Well, that was mishand for you know every angle.

470
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Speaker 2: But why do it wrong twice?

471
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Speaker 10: You know?

472
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Speaker 1: Now, I'm just saying, like you, you trade it up

473
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Speaker 1: in the fourth round. He's an asset that you thought

474
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Speaker 1: enough of to do that for, and now he's struggling.

475
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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to make excuses for him. He hasn't

476
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Speaker 1: kicked well, he's been very erratic, a couple of really

477
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Speaker 1: short ones. He's missed the last two times that he's

478
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Speaker 1: been out there. But are you ready to sort of change?

479
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Speaker 1: Yeah for good?

480
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Speaker 2: No, but right now I'd like to Right now, I'd

481
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Speaker 2: like to win a game or two.

482
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Speaker 1: Okay, But my point is what's more important him long

483
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Speaker 1: term or winning a game.

484
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Speaker 7: Or two him long term?

485
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Speaker 6: Is there?

486
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Speaker 2: Kickers, I've got all off season to work with him.

487
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Speaker 1: Okay, well, that's not really going to do it. I

488
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Speaker 1: know he's going to be somebody this could this.

489
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Speaker 2: We're already hearing defense bitching about the offense that we

490
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Speaker 2: have to be perfect, you know what, And.

491
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Speaker 1: Now I'm going to bring out I've about had it

492
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Speaker 1: with that too. Okay, that'll be another.

493
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Speaker 2: I'll get into that. But you know where where points

494
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Speaker 2: are at a premium, I have to think about the

495
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 2: entire team, and like, I'm not going to be working

496
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Speaker 2: on this one guy because I traded up in the

497
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Speaker 2: fourth round in forfeit a game and that's just not

498
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Speaker 2: fair to everybody.

499
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Speaker 1: And I didn't say to forfeit a game, like don't

500
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Speaker 1: do it? Make it an indie argument like okay, so

501
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Speaker 1: we have no chance to win because Chad Ryland is

502
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Speaker 1: on the team. Now, I'm forfeiting today.

503
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Speaker 2: But but I have a less chance if I don't

504
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Speaker 2: have a field goal kicker who can make field goals.

505
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Speaker 2: You know, So it's you can you can argue either way,

506
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:31,960
Speaker 2: but I can see this, you know.

507
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if you have designs in this guy

508
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Speaker 1: being part of your future, I don't know if this

509
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Speaker 1: is the best thing for him, for you know, mentally,

510
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Speaker 1: it's a very it's a very very mental position.

511
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Speaker 7: There are kickers that have had bad starts to their

512
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Speaker 7: careers and then all of a sudden turned into great

513
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Speaker 7: kicker and what really brought the city first.

514
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Speaker 1: Of all, well, it might be for this season, it

515
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Speaker 1: is that might mean the end. That's exactly what Evan's

516
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Speaker 1: talking about. And I think, first of all, I'm just

517
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Speaker 1: bringing it up as a you know, as they like

518
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Speaker 1: to say, facility.

519
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Speaker 2: We don't have a lot to argue about.

520
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 1: And I'm not necessarily arguing with you about it. I'm

521
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Speaker 1: just asking if it's the best way to handle it.

522
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Speaker 1: And what got it on my radar I think was

523
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Speaker 1: either last Friday or the friday before when Bill started

524
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Speaker 1: being asked about it, and he I think it was

525
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Speaker 1: last Friday, he mentioned a lot of guys that were

526
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Speaker 1: really successful kickers in this league did not have that

527
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Speaker 1: success with their original team. They go to another team

528
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Speaker 1: and they end up, you know, panning out. Now, Nick

529
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 1: Folk was good with a lot of teams, but there's

530
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Speaker 1: a lot of guys that really were terrible when they

531
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Speaker 1: first got in the league and ended up having long,

532
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Speaker 1: successful careers. And I wonder, is that what the plan is?

533
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Speaker 1: Like you have to accept the fact that it's not

534
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Speaker 1: going to work here. He might go somewhere else and

535
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Speaker 1: it might pan out for him. And I'm not arguing necessarily,

536
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Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, is that where we're going?

537
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Speaker 2: I think right now that may I think right now,

538
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 2: all Bill is thinking about is I need a guy

539
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Speaker 2: who can make a field goal and you know, we

540
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Speaker 2: can make a forty eight yard or when we need it.

541
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Speaker 2: And he's he's thinking about the now. I you know,

542
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Speaker 2: I don't think he's thinking about twenty twenty four or

543
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Speaker 2: his future, Ryland's future. I just think he's thinking about

544
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Speaker 2: I got a bunch of guys in this team that

545
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Speaker 2: would love to get a win, and I'm the coach,

546
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Speaker 2: and it's up to me to find a way to

547
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Speaker 2: get a win. And you can make the same argument

548
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Speaker 2: that he didn't pull the plug, you know, fast enough

549
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Speaker 2: with Matt Jones.

550
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Speaker 1: You know, I get that that's the counter I get it.

551
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think that's your argument.

552
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Speaker 7: That that's almost the the challenge for Bill as being

553
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Speaker 7: the GM and the coach is that he had I

554
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Speaker 7: think sometimes that that's another thing that kind of gets in.

555
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 2: The way a little bit.

556
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Speaker 7: Is like to hear and now matters to build a coach,

557
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 7: But Bill, a GM needs to take a total you know,

558
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 7: has to take that bird's eye view of it. And

559
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 7: so these decisions I think sometimes necessarily even knocking him

560
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 7: for it, because that's a tough spot to be it. Like,

561
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 7: you know that the team right now might be dying

562
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 7: for a win, but really if you're in the long term,

563
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 7: it's probably better they lose. Like that's just the reality.

564
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 7: Like I've said before, you know, Pittsburgh beating Pittsburgh tomorrow

565
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 7: night does not help them in any way, shape or form. Now,

566
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Speaker 7: if you tell me that they upset the Chiefs in

567
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 7: a couple of weeks and that like the Buffalo game

568
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Speaker 7: is kind of like a feel good win for the team,

569
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Speaker 7: then fine. But losing. You know, winning these types of

570
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 7: games are the games that are gonna matter.

571
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Speaker 2: And I also get an email that we're going to

572
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Speaker 2: miss the bus. Actually that's what Neil Perry just emails.

573
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Speaker 2: I don't know what he's talking about. Better get going,

574
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Speaker 2: all right, right, I.

575
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Speaker 1: Was under I was under the gun. I only had

576
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Speaker 1: twenty six minutes, but I did. I did get Fred

577
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Speaker 1: to yell at me, So I'm glad that I was

578
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 1: able to do that. Yeah, what the situation. Like I said,

579
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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think that feels wrong for wanting to

580
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: make a change. Maybe he's decided. I'm just wondering in

581
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 1: you know, to Evan's point about the you know, winning

582
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: the game or losing the game. Yeah, that's that's probably

583
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: not in the best interest of the team. You probably

584
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 1: want to continue to keep that draft position as high

585
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Speaker 1: as you can. But I would argue that even if

586
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Speaker 1: even Thursday night, like tomorrow night, if you could win

587
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: the game thirty one twenty seven, I think you could

588
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: get something out of that. Now, we were talking about

589
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 1: it during that Chargers game in the fourth quarter. My god,

590
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: don't score now, like, don't win this game seven to six,

591
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: you know, and it's a miserable game and you've got

592
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: nothing out of it, you know, And the only thing

593
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 1: that was accomplished was that you hurt your draft position.

594
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Speaker 1: Whereas if you could somehow, you know, have a really

595
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 1: good offensive game, you could talk yourself into Okay, the

596
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: offense has been miserable, but we're finally showing signs of

597
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: life here and we're scoring some points. Like I could

598
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: you know, I could get behind some wins that way.

599
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: But you know, in terms of the kicker, I just

600
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: think it's such a mental position. Yeah, and that gets

601
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: in his head now, you know, he's already you know,

602
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: he's already got struggling because he's not making enough kicks.

603
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 1: I just wonder if that's maybe gonna be the end

604
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: for him in New England.

605
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 6: Plus part, if you make a change, we don't know

606
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 6: what's going on in practice too, Like what.

607
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's struggling. I'm not trying to make excuses

608
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 1: for Chad Ryland. He hasn't done the job. You know,

609
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: it is what it is. It's a results oriented business

610
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 1: and he hasn't done the job.

611
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

612
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 6: No, I mean the Bearinger's been up and.

613
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: He's been up and down, but he's been better than Ryan.

614
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, so tis welcome in you guys. We've got matist

615
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 6: Bauman here. You know his voice from the p U

616
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:38,479
Speaker 6: halftime show. Face real. You've been on the show before though,

617
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 6: been a while.

618
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. Like all the draft podcasts, I'm

619
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: not sure how we don't do enough video for those.

620
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Speaker 6: That's he just wants to come down and replay his

621
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Speaker 6: greatest hits of players that he loved.

622
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Speaker 4: The late round.

623
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Speaker 1: Guy Quinton Johnston was right.

624
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Speaker 6: He thinks it was Eldred online. So I had I

625
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 6: had a thing. You know, we hear people talk and

626
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 6: you see little clips on Twitter and stuff, and I saw,

627
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 6: you know, Tommy Current kind of thrown out there of

628
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 6: Mac being the bridge quarterback. Did you see this yesterday?

629
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 6: I think it was next year?

630
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Mike, do you remember last week? I told

631
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: you I wouldn't have been stunned if he played, and

632
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: by the way he was active, Like, I do not

633
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: rule out that possibility at all.

634
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 6: I don't either, And I mean I think I was

635
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 6: more okay with it, like you know, a couple of

636
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 6: months ago, and I've slowly been like how can they

637
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 6: and that, and like just in the question that kind

638
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 6: of came to me was just I get I get it,

639
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 6: Like you know, I get why you would say this,

640
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,959
Speaker 6: but I also just how do you sell that to

641
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 6: the team.

642
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. If you have the the option

643
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: between Mac Jones and any other veteran guy, I would

644
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: I would offer the other one, even if I think

645
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: Mac Jones is better. Like, yeah, like, you know what

646
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: I think of Baker Mayfield, Like, if you get stuck

647
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: and you have nobody, I'd rather have Baker Mayfield. You know,

648
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 1: if you get stuck and you have nobody, I'd rather

649
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 1: have Jimmy Garoppolo. I think those guys are done. Like

650
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't think. I don't have any illusions.

651
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: I'm talking about you couldn't draft a quarterback and you

652
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,719
Speaker 1: have nobody to play like Bailey z Appy in Baker

653
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: Mayfield to me would be better than Bailey's Appy and

654
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: Mac Jones.

655
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I agreed. You gotta like sit down with your

656
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 6: bril peppers and be like, so.

657
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 1: We're gonnas, this is what this is what we're gonna do.

658
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna do what now.

659
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 6: I I did see we were in the locker room

660
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 6: yesterday and like and Mac was like out on the

661
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 6: field by himself, like still putting work in like he was.

662
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 6: You know, we could see him through the windows when

663
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 6: we went out.

664
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Speaker 1: Like that's when I feel bad he's and you know,

665
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: it's that human part of it. It makes me feel

666
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Speaker 1: like I have empathy for him because I do know

667
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: that it means a lot to him.

668
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 6: Do you think he do you think he plays again

669
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 6: this year this year, like maybe Bailey rolls ankle.

670
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: I think he definitely plays again this year. There's five

671
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: more games. I kind of they just got shut up.

672
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 5: I say, no, unless something happens to Bailey, like unless

673
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 5: you like.

674
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 6: What about like Bailey, Zappy just does nothing like I

675
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 6: mean just like last week, like it's just nothing.

676
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 4: It's like Evan said, nothing's kind of good sometimes.

677
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 5: So I feel like he's not.

678
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 9: He hasn't done anything to hurt the team, like in

679
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 9: terms of like throwing with just like bad interceptions, like

680
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 9: Mac just keeps doing that over and over and over,

681
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 9: and it's like we don't really need.

682
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 4: To see it. I said on the field, it was

683
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 4: Zappy was getting grabbed around the ankle and he just

684
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 4: went down and took the sack, and I was like,

685
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 4: that's the difference right there, Mac would just.

686
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 5: Oh you would have it up and it would have

687
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 5: been a pick.

688
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 6: So yeah, those bad plays, I mean, no question, but

689
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 6: I just I mean, we were talking about in the

690
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 6: locker room a little bit and I just said, you know,

691
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 6: it's like for every bit of criticism that we've thrown

692
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 6: and lobbed in Mac Jones's direction, some of it right

693
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 6: and some of it wrong. Like I've just never questioned

694
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 6: his like work ethic, like he's always that's.

695
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: Why done everything you ask I kind of feel, yeah,

696
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: like you know, so the quarterback that replaced him went

697
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: out did absolutely nothing and is considered But no, no, no,

698
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: it's his job.

699
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 6: You got to keep him in.

700
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 9: I know, I feel like it's tough because it's he's

701
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 9: working hard, but like there's no change notice on the field,

702
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 9: Like that's that's what's tough with Mac. It's like, you know,

703
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 9: he's putting in the hours in the time. He's not

704
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 9: like playing video games and having to get written in

705
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 9: his contract that he needs to write more, watch more film.

706
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 5: That's not the problem.

707
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 9: But when he's on the field, it's like, why are

708
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 9: we not noticing any change?

709
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 6: Study a task is still failing, especially like off the buy,

710
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 6: I felt like because I don't know what I was expecting,

711
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 6: not that I was expecting anything. I was just maybe,

712
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 6: you know, fooling myself of maybe maybe this week off

713
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 6: helped him, and you know, it couldn't have gone any

714
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 6: worse than it did in Germany, you know, And but

715
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 6: he just came out and it was the same exact thing.

716
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 6: That's just what why can't he break that cycle? You know,

717
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 6: that's a great question. There are some there are there

718
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 6: are some positives for him, but I mean, then Devin

719
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 6: mccordy was out today asked the question of who do

720
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 6: you blame mac or the organization? And I mean really

721
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 6: Devin kind of lated at the organization's feet.

722
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: But it's just it's so hard on all the writers

723
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: chimed in. Devin speaks the truth. I like, I know,

724
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: I'm the only one that thinks that they still give

725
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: him all the excuses in the world.

726
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 6: But there it is, you gotta it's just it's I mean,

727
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 6: it is hard to untangle. But like I just I

728
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 6: can't get away from the thought that I had of

729
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 6: when you know, I saw Tom kind of throw that

730
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 6: out there, and you know, something that we had talked

731
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 6: to about too, but just how do you sell that

732
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 6: to the team. You know that that's the biggest thing

733
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 6: for me, Like I understand it from a first round

734
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 6: draft pick perspective, and you know what he's done, and

735
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 6: you know what what you what you're hoping that he

736
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 6: was going to grow into and that you still don't

737
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 6: want to lose sight of that. But at the same time,

738
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 6: its just continues to look the same, you know, no

739
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 6: matter kind of who was around team.

740
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: But in the fan base, right that's tough right now

741
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: because people people are cranky. People are cranky.

742
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 6: Really, I hadn't notice.

743
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 4: I mean the guys weren't there. But in Germany, the

744
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 4: Zappi chance in that stadium, I was like, this is

745
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 4: this is tough. Really, I just don't get.

746
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: How you bounce me.

747
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 6: We had some Zappi chance here, like they were like encouraging.

748
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 4: I'm saying, like European soccer fan stadium.

749
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 9: Like.

750
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 2: The game.

751
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: And then Sunday like even when they're getting shut out

752
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: for three and a half orders, I think there was

753
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:02,959
Speaker 1: a belief that he's gonna do it.

754
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, here's the part that noise is you got zap zap,

755
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 4: And I'm like he did an end around a Taekwon Thornton.

756
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 6: He didn't do anything.

757
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 4: Why are we chanty?

758
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 6: They're just trying at least it wasn't. I thought we

759
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 6: were gonna have to bring back Mac chance to bring

760
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 6: back Man.

761
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: I don't think.

762
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 5: I don't think.

763
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't think you're ever going to get that

764
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 9: people have taped over their back Jones jerseys.

765
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 6: That's just the most depressing thing for football franchise when

766
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 6: you it gets to that, Like every franchise kind of

767
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 6: goes through that, when you figure out like a certain

768
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 6: segment of the fan base QUARTERBA brown quarterback with the

769
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 6: brown paper bags, just setting it on fire.

770
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 9: But that was everything. When I saw the photo, I can't.

771
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 6: Well, it's a plenty of emails here coming in and

772
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 6: uh are we okay to go to the phone yet, Paul,

773
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 6: I'm feeling that this is a little thrown off.

774
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: It's usually.

775
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 6: Usually when my host it's a it's a mindset and

776
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 6: you start off and you get into it and you

777
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 6: know Fred was here, and now it's like, all.

778
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, more than enough time to clear your throat.

779
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 6: All right, Josh, all right, let me clear my throat. Speed?

780
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 6: What's going on?

781
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 4: Speed?

782
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: How are you hey, I'm all right.

783
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 11: How you guys doing all right?

784
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: Yesterday?

785
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 11: That really resonated for me, at least he said it

786
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 11: was something like, they don't suck because they turned the

787
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 11: ball over. They turned the ball over because they sucked, And.

788
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 12: I thought that was good.

789
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 11: Like Bill's always harped on not turning the ball over.

790
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 11: You know, he's had like a hair trigger benching your players,

791
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 11: like Stevenson, but like but these days, when Bill invokes

792
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 11: the turnovers are our main problem with offense, it rings

793
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 11: a little hollow. It's like he's I wonder if he's

794
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 11: like deflecting you can discuss, like to talk about what's

795
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 11: really going wrong and leading to the turnovers, like he's

796
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 11: treating a symptom like it's a disease. Yeah, And I

797
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 11: wanted to know, your guys thought, does he is that

798
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 11: what he's doing is.

799
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: So I strongly believe that speed I do, And I

800
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: think that that's also part of the reason why he's

801
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,959
Speaker 1: been so evasive when asked about the quarterback, Because if

802
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: they get if I continue to say, you know, I

803
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: told everybody to be ready, I expect I expect you

804
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: know what they're all they both deserve. If I keep,

805
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: you know, sort of you know, be laboring this point.

806
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: Instead of just naming a starter. You name a starter

807
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: and the questions end, right, So these are what the

808
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: questions are going to be. And then maybe they're not

809
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: going to talk about, well, it doesn't really matter who

810
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: the quarterback is because we're not moving the ball and

811
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: scoring points. I keep talking about turnovers, and people are

812
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: going to keep saying and some in the media have

813
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: glombed onto that. You know, they put the turnover ratio

814
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: up every week, and you look and there's like Kansas

815
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: City's down there and Cleveland's down there are teams that

816
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 1: have winning records that are down around where the Patriots

817
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 1: are in the turnover margin, that are eight nine games

818
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: ahead of them in the standings. It's not just about turnover. Now, obviously,

819
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: you throw as many interceptions as Mac was throwing, that's

820
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: gonna hurt you. But I again, I just don't think

821
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 1: that they're two and ten because of turnovers. I think

822
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: there's a lot other factors that are involved.

823
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 11: I agree with pet and the turnovers become relevant to

824
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 11: the quarterback discussion a little bit because, like Matisa is

825
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 11: just saying, you know, Zappy, you grab him by the ankle,

826
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 11: maybe he goes down, whereas maybe Max tries to do

827
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,439
Speaker 11: some circus mistake and turn the ball over.

828
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 6: Yeah.

829
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think Mac is just making too many mistakes

830
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 9: that you would see from a rookie now. And it's

831
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 9: like you're about to be coming up on your you know,

832
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 9: contract extension year. You're still doing the same things that

833
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 9: a rooie would be.

834
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: And I think that the difference is he's been playing

835
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: every game and they're not scoring any points and he

836
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: has that press to I have to make a play here.

837
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, it's just they have.

838
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 1: To make a play because we're not scoring and we're

839
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: punting and we're punting. We're punting and we're not scoring

840
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: and we're not scoring. Where Zapie went in for one

841
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 1: game and they have to endure not scoring.

842
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's just like though those plays where

843
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 6: he's been wrapped up and he just throws the ball

844
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 6: all out like.

845
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 4: Like that just it can't happen in the NFL, right,

846
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 4: the difference between losing and not turning the ball over

847
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 4: and losing and turned the ball.

848
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: And I also say, like, you know, the goal for

849
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: the quarterback isn't to just not make mistakes. It's to

850
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: make plays. And you know that's why I didn't really

851
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: think there was a whole lot of difference between the

852
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: two performances Mac and against the Giants and Zappi against

853
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 1: the Chargers. To me, was very much the same, only

854
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: you didn't turn the ball over.

855
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 9: And I think the panic, like the footwork and the

856
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 9: panic that Mac has like Zappi doesn't do that like

857
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 9: when pass when Khalilza has been better.

858
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's better in the pocket.

859
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 6: Keeps his eyes down feel a little bit.

860
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought he did a good job of moving

861
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: around the pocket early in the game, especially, but you

862
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: know at the end of the game he got sacked

863
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: five times. Anything else speaking, that is going.

864
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 11: To get himself in trouble with one of those side

865
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 11: arms throws, I predicted the next game.

866
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going to do it tomorrow, like the one

867
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: he threw against the Giants late in the game that

868
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: the linebacker dropped, like you just kind of like get

869
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: rid of it and went right to the guy and

870
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: the guy dropped lot this summer at all, Right, he's

871
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: a gunslinger.

872
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 6: Thanks to b appreciate it. Yeah, I it's.

873
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: Not ideal to like go into these games, you know,

874
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: like Tamara said, like six nothing, like you know, well,

875
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: who's gonna get the six? You know, I don't know,

876
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: but it just would be nice to go into one

877
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: of these games thinking they could win another way. Yeah,

878
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: you had said, like you thought that maybe Mac comes

879
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: out of the bye week, and like I've had that thought,

880
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: not just with Mac, but the team in general, like

881
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: three or four times this year, Like you know what,

882
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: They're gonna go out and they're gonna score in their

883
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: first drive, then they're gonna cause a turnover in the

884
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 1: second drive and go up ten nothing or fourteen nothing,

885
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: and it's just gonna be one of those games they're gonna

886
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: unload the season season's worth of frustration on some team.

887
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 1: It just never shows, and it just never happens.

888
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 6: I mean, probably not totally the same, but maybe a

889
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 6: little bit in O nine with that Tennessee game where

890
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,760
Speaker 6: they were kind of struggling and then all of a sudden,

891
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 6: the snow here it was just like boom, fifty points.

892
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 6: It was like two thousand and seven, all of a sudden. Again.

893
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 6: I don't know, I've I've been waiting for those things

894
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 6: to happen, but it just it just how and then

895
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 6: I mean, and another big thing I think we got

896
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 6: to talk about too is just Remondre, Like, I mean,

897
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 6: a it sounds like high ankle sprain, which was what

898
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 6: it looked like, gonna be out for a little bit.

899
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 6: He's been their best player on offense, right, I mean,

900
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 6: and now what do you do? Do you do you

901
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 6: give Kevin Harris a shot to try Jamichael Hasty doesn't

902
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 6: matter or it doesn't matter, or do you I mean,

903
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 6: I think Zeke seemed kind of intrigued by getting like

904
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 6: carrying the load and really getting a chance to to

905
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 6: to do it. So I don't know why not. I mean,

906
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 6: I'd like to see a look at Kevin Harris, but

907
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 6: he seems like an afterthought at this point.

908
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, they must just not like him very much.

909
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm interested to see, like kind of to your point,

910
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 9: to see what you have, Like see Kevin Harris, I mean,

911
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 9: would have loved to see Kashawan bootymore, but obviously Injuris.

912
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 5: And things getting away.

913
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 9: But I'm like, see all the guys that you haven't

914
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 9: really had a chance to see before the end of

915
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 9: the year, to see, like, Okay, what do we have?

916
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 9: What do we want to get rid of what do

917
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 9: we want to fix? Like, I feel like it's hard

918
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 9: when you can't really see these guys.

919
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,439
Speaker 4: That's why I want to go to the league, because

920
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 4: I just want, Like, what do you have to lose?

921
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 4: I just want I just want the manitation football, honestly,

922
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 4: Like I just want to see some passes, any.

923
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 6: Well, passes. I don't know about mylik with the passes.

924
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 4: That's fine. You know, he can juke somebody out of

925
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 4: his shoes. I don't care it is.

926
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the key there, I think is

927
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: that they need to find a way to stay on

928
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: the field the offense, Like you need to get you know,

929
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: some first downs and then maybe if you get something going,

930
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: you can throw them a leak coming here.

931
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 6: I think that's what it is.

932
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: Like four to three and outs in the first half.

933
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 4: Say that, and then I looked up at the scoreboard

934
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 4: and the time possession was pretty equal, which makes no

935
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 4: sense to me.

936
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: Well, the Chargers didn't move the ball lead, that's true.

937
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: I mean they both had two hundred and fifty yards of.

938
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 6: Offense, fifteen punts total.

939
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of punting going on that one.

940
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 4: I'm waiting for a score of Gami honestly, that's all

941
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 4: we need.

942
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 6: Like, what are the score of Gami's below ten points?

943
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 4: Well, we googled yesterday. We thought we're gonna get a

944
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 4: zero zero score of Goami, but that happened nine eight

945
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 4: nineteen forty eight.

946
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: Could nine eight be a score of Gomi?

947
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 6: I probably it's the four safeties. Maybe because I'm five

948
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 6: two as well, it's putting up a baseball score.

949
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 9: If the score is I can't I can't even I

950
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 9: can't even say it out of my mouth.

951
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 5: The score is five to you? Oh my god.

952
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 6: L from Wisconsin chimed in on on email said, you

953
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 6: know what, would y'all know what would be hilarious if

954
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 6: the defense shuts out the Steelers but the offense throws

955
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 6: a pick six and that would be a new low.

956
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 6: And that's why I just would like to see the

957
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 6: defense score. I don't really like, you know, I think

958
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 6: we're all like win. I don't know, I don't really

959
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 6: want to win all that much, But I just think

960
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 6: it would be really fun to watch the defense celebrate

961
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 6: and score maybe a big man touchdown.

962
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: Oh you know Trubisky. You know he could give you,

963
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: He could give you some opportunities, you.

964
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 4: See the whole Nase and Trubisky stuff that was hilarious.

965
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 4: He was like a reporter asked Na. He was like, so,

966
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 4: what do you think of Trubisky's leadership? And You're like,

967
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 4: it's okay, I guess he is. He like vocal, and

968
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 4: I was like, not me not. She's like, I guess

969
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 4: it was a really bad day. They got some stuff going.

970
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 1: So what I would say with that is that's pretty

971
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: ironic that a player is asked about someone else's leadership

972
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: and he pooh poos it like that's terrible leadership by

973
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: Naji Harris. I don't care if. I don't care if

974
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: it's true or not.

975
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 4: I can't take Najie Harris seriously anymore because I saw

976
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 4: a tweet that says he looks like he's running in jeans.

977
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: I didn't want to get into a man I'm gonna

978
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: play them now. I want to see it, which I

979
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: think is bad for the Patriots that if he warrens better,

980
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 1: well not only Warren's better, but if Najie Harris plays

981
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: and they have Harris and Warren, I know what they'll do.

982
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: They'll go into the game and say, we're gonna run

983
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 1: the ball twenty five times tonight, and we're going to

984
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: establish the run and we're gonna do it. You know.

985
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 1: I think Harris is more of that physical back Warren smaller, shiftier,

986
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: which has always been better against the Patriots. Now maybe

987
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: they'll look at it and say, we can't just we

988
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: can't ask Jalen Warren to carry the ball thirty times

989
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: like we would with both of them together. Maybe they'll

990
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: throw it, because if you want to try to run

991
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 1: against the Patriots, you're gonna lose. Yeah, I mean like offensively.

992
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you're gonna lose the game, because we

993
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: all saw last week they still won the game.

994
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 4: But then Deontay Johnson's kind of tuned out. Apparently he

995
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 4: stuff with him.

996
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: So this is going to be part of my rant

997
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: when I go on my shows later, like this big

998
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 1: thing that Felger has and tomorrow will like this because

999
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: it's really complimentary a guy who would you rather have

1000
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: been over the last fifty years? The Patriots are the Steelers,

1001
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: and my answer is the Patriots totally respecting everything Pittsburgh's done,

1002
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: great program programs. I like to say thank you, but

1003
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: I'm not enamored with being in my bad years quote

1004
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: unquote going nine to eight and not being a threat.

1005
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: I didn't really have much use for that. In twenty

1006
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: one when the Patriots were ten and seven, it made

1007
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: the playoffs, but they didn't really threaten anybody. And then

1008
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: last year they went eight and nine. Like, I don't

1009
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: give Pittsburgh points for avoiding this year. Like I don't

1010
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: really think there's a whole lot of difference between where

1011
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: the two teams are right now.

1012
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 4: You could say that screwed him over in the long

1013
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 4: run too, because you know, you just take that big

1014
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 4: Ben year where his arm is cooked, you finished, like

1015
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 4: gos you might have a new guy.

1016
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: And I get I give now listen, I give Tomlin

1017
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: not sucking up to you to Marr, but I give

1018
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: Tomlin credit for keeping it together, finding ways to win

1019
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: these games when they're outplayed in a lot of these games,

1020
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: they find a way at the end because they're tough, Yeah,

1021
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 1: and they play hard for him and all that stuff.

1022
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: I'm not taking that away from Pittsburgh. They have a

1023
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: great like I said, they have a great program. The

1024
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: guys are, but I don't think they're really all that

1025
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: much closer to contention than the Patriots are. Even though

1026
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: there's seven and five.

1027
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 6: And that's what like you discovered. I think, you know,

1028
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 6: right going almost into the twenty twenty season was just

1029
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 6: like the fear of the middle, Like you know, it's

1030
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 6: like either be a contender or suck like just but

1031
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 6: just don't be in the middle. That's the worst place

1032
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 6: to be because you're never going to get out of

1033
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 6: the cycle. And by that token, do you hope that

1034
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 6: that this I mean, I have no idea what we're

1035
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 6: in for next offseason, but is this a one you know,

1036
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 6: is this your chance right here to like you know,

1037
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 6: you're not you don't want to be back at the draft.

1038
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 6: You want to get this top pick and you know

1039
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 6: where you're gonna be in the second round, et cetera,

1040
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 6: all the way down, and you don't have to be

1041
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 6: back here. You get the pieces in now you know

1042
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 6: we can get back to content. I don't know, it's

1043
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 6: it's a huge lift. We'll see how how it unfolds

1044
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 6: with it with everything now that we're we're getting ready

1045
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 6: to face here in the offseason.

1046
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 9: What I think is super interesting is that Ju's first

1047
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 9: time playing the Steelers since he left.

1048
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 5: He said that in the locker.

1049
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: Room yesterday, Big game from Juju.

1050
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 4: One catch seven yards.

1051
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: Look, I'm looking Buck fifty from Juju.

1052
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 6: Cracks me up in regards that we I don't think

1053
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 6: we said once that Ja C. Jackson was playing the

1054
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 6: Chargers and like made any comment last week about jac

1055
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 6: Jackson playing against the team that you know.

1056
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: Just I guess that he played as well as people

1057
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: sort of like he settled in now and had a great,

1058
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: good game. Like I didn't see that.

1059
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 6: I saw him chasing a lot, yeah.

1060
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: In that game. Jonathan Jones, I thought was really good

1061
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: in that game. I thought Bryant was competitive in that game.

1062
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: Jonathan Jones, especially though I thought he was really good.

1063
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 1: Mills made a couple of plays in the Chargers game

1064
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: that I haven't really seen all year.

1065
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 4: Yep.

1066
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: I didn't see that really from Jackson. I thought he

1067
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: had one play that he had pretty good coverage on.

1068
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: You know, I let everybody, let everybody know after the

1069
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 1: pass was incomplete.

1070
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 6: All right, well, our uh, our food is here. So

1071
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 6: we're gonna take a little bit of an early break

1072
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 6: here and eat and then we'll be right back after

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Speaker 14: What are your thoughts about the game in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 10: I'm excited. You know, it's a good opportunity for us

1098
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 10: to go out there and you know, play as a team,

1099
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 10: play calmentary football, and you know, start playing well as

1100
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 10: an offense. So I'm excited.

1101
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 15: What did you learn from Sunday and what can you

1102
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 15: take it to Thursday now with that next next start.

1103
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 10: Yeah, there was some you know, some mysteries by me,

1104
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 10: some misthrows by me. There are some things that you know,

1105
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 10: I can you know, better ball placement, things like that.

1106
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 10: So just been working on that stuff as much as

1107
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 10: possible today and tomorrow before we head off and try

1108
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 10: to get ready for Thursday in such a short leak.

1109
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 10: I mean, I guess so because you don't get as

1110
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 10: much physical reps as more mental. But we try as

1111
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 10: much as possible, like before or after walk throughs or

1112
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 10: whatever we do, to try to just go out there

1113
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 10: and throw as much as possible, whether it's just walking through,

1114
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 10: just standing there, just you know, just try to throw

1115
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 10: the ball around.

1116
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: Horse, Are you sick at all?

1117
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 10: No, I got a horse. After the game, I'll screaming

1118
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 10: and everything, trying to make sure everybody can hear me

1119
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 10: out there.

1120
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: When you look back, Toto, you something you felt like

1121
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: you gelt better upon the adventure. Things absolutely as you

1122
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: should expect someone.

1123
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 10: I would say like the operation as a whole was

1124
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 10: pretty well. By the offense, you know, we never really had,

1125
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 10: you know, any questions about the plays or anything like that.

1126
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 10: We got in the houddle, we broke the houttle, we

1127
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 10: got to line, and you know, we were rolling. So

1128
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 10: I think the whole operation, of course, you know, I

1129
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 10: think there was two or three instances where you know,

1130
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,919
Speaker 10: we can fix and move it on to the next game.

1131
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 10: But other than that, I think it was pretty solid.

1132
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 15: You the pre staff operation, really, how much more comfortable

1133
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:40,280
Speaker 15: are you confident?

1134
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: Are you with alerts, making the pre snap reads and

1135
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: adjustments that you need to do.

1136
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 4: There's a lot of the player, the quarterback in the offense.

1137
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, I feel like I get more and more comfortable

1138
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 10: every week the more I watch film of the opponent.

1139
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 10: That also helps, you know, just the preparation throughout the

1140
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 10: week and understanding you know, why we're alerting, why we're

1141
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 10: killing took plays like that. That always helps, so you

1142
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 10: know this short week, you know, that's the only thing

1143
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 10: we have to do now is just mental reps. So

1144
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 10: that's what I'm really diving into right now.

1145
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: Bigally, just in the second half of the game, you

1146
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: took a lot of shots, specifically to Devonte Parker. I

1147
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: was one of your terms of that connection. Is that

1148
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: the kind of thing where if you see them one

1149
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: on one, you have the freedom to take those opportunities

1150
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: Or were there some times where you felt maybe you

1151
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 1: locked in on them when there were other opportunities on

1152
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: other parts of the field.

1153
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, that was something that going into halftime that we

1154
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 10: talked about that the second half we wanted to push

1155
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 10: the ball down field a little bit, and you know,

1156
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 10: we have some guys that can you know, get those

1157
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 10: fifty to fifty balls, and you know, DP is one

1158
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 10: of those guys where you know, you kind of put

1159
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 10: it up anywhere and he has opportunity to go up

1160
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 10: and get it. So does Taekwon, and so does really

1161
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 10: everybody else. So I think that was kind of our mindset.

1162
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 10: We just wanted to, you know, attack down the field

1163
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 10: going into the second half, and you know, kind of

1164
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 10: like you said, if it's one on one, you know,

1165
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 10: I kind of like my guy better than their guy.

1166
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 10: So I'm just let them go get it.

1167
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 5: You actually.

1168
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 10: Coaches, you know, made it pretty clear. But I'll let him,

1169
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 10: you know, announce it to everybody that's you know, private

1170
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,240
Speaker 10: right now, and whenever he announces it, that's that's with him.

1171
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 10: What you say you've learned about yourself this well, you

1172
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 10: know a lot. I guess a lot of things that

1173
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 10: I can grow on, a lot of things that you know,

1174
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 10: I can improve on. But you know, I I would

1175
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 10: like to say around here is taking a day by

1176
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 10: day and that's just you know, it's very cliche to

1177
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,439
Speaker 10: say that, but you know, it's every day there's something

1178
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 10: that you can get better at, whether it's you know,

1179
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,720
Speaker 10: mental things or you know, physical things, throwing and stuff

1180
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 10: like that, and there's always ways to get better. And

1181
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 10: that's kind of how I do it.

1182
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 6: Sunday, it was your first start of the season. How

1183
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 6: much did the opportunity mean to you, especially given.

1184
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 10: You know, with him not being here on cut.

1185
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 4: Day cut down day.

1186
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean it was you know, it's been a

1187
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 10: long ride, of course, so to be out there was

1188
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 10: an amazing opportunity. You know, we didn't get the you know,

1189
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 10: the result that we wanted, so hopefully we can you know,

1190
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 10: learn from it, grow from it and going into Thursday

1191
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 10: and do everything we can, uh, you know, do everything

1192
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 10: I can to put the team in the best possible situation,

1193
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 10: you know, to win the game.

1194
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 9: I actually you confirms of the multiple offers getting this

1195
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 9: opportunity to start interesting those feelings, and you kind of made.

1196
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 10: That right to me to stick around. Yeah, you know,

1197
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 10: this is the place I wanted to be. I wanted

1198
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 10: to play for ob I wanted to play for Coach Belichick,

1199
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 10: and I wanted to play with the you know, the

1200
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,919
Speaker 10: guys that I've built a relationship with over the last

1201
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 10: you know, a year and a half two years. So

1202
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 10: this is where I wanted to be.

1203
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: It was probably frustration might not be the right word,

1204
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: but where are you at with you guys?

1205
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 15: Feel like you do a lot of good things with

1206
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 15: the games to color did and that just breaking that

1207
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 15: barrier is starting to knock on put the folly into

1208
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 15: get points. How close do you feel that the guys

1209
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 15: are as unity too?

1210
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, we're close. We talk about that a lot. You know,

1211
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 10: it's just one or two things you know that you

1212
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 10: know that happened that you know, kind of haltered from

1213
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 10: you from scoring and we just got to fix those

1214
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 10: one or two things. And once we do that, I

1215
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 10: feel like we'll be able to start putting points on

1216
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 10: the board.

1217
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: Obviously and do what's best for the team. But how

1218
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: do you look in these next few weeks just for you,

1219
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: you guys are the future or in the l What

1220
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: do you do for that?

1221
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1222
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 10: I mean nobody really, you know, ask any questions when

1223
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 10: you start winning. So as long as we just go

1224
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 10: out there and you know, do the best we can

1225
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 10: and put points on the board as far as an

1226
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 10: offense and start winning as a team, I think you know,

1227
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 10: that'll all kind of handle itself.

1228
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 2: Really.

1229
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 11: The fact that you're up at the podium today and

1230
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 11: there's not as much uncertainty from a public perspective there

1231
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 11: who's the guy right now?

1232
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 16: How much does that kind of help you just embrace

1233
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 16: that role?

1234
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 10: Yeah? I mean that helps you know, Like I said,

1235
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 10: I'll wait for the official announcement from coach, but you know,

1236
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 10: I try to prepare every week, you know, like I'm

1237
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 10: the guy, so nothing different from me.

1238
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 14: How much does it help you improve that from start

1239
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 14: to finish. In the last game, you were under center

1240
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 14: the whole time, and I'm going into this week of

1241
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 14: preparation and meetings, film practice, with time you guys have

1242
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 14: for the for Pittsburgh that you're the guy that's leading

1243
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 14: the offense quarterback.

1244
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 10: Now, yeah, I mean, of course it's different, but you know,

1245
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 10: you gotta you gotta approach every week. You know that

1246
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 10: coach always says everybody has to be ready to play.

1247
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 10: So you have to be ready no matter what. You

1248
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,919
Speaker 10: gotta prepare like you're gonna be thrown in there, whether

1249
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 10: it's the second player, whether it's the last play. So

1250
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 10: you know, that's kind of the mentality that we have here,

1251
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 10: and you know, just no matter what's going on, you

1252
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:21,959
Speaker 10: just prepare to play.

1253
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 4: Like what time was it when you first started looking

1254
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 4: at the Steelers?

1255
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 10: Probably Sunday night is when I kind of look back

1256
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 10: at their Cardinals game eleven, I mean love thirty, Probably

1257
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:41,720
Speaker 10: like four thirty in the morning, I don't know, sometime

1258
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 10: after our game.

1259
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 6: I'm playing there in that atmosphere.

1260
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 15: David was talking about it through a game in Pittsburgh

1261
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 15: Thursday until before the amosphere.

1262
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean that's you know, I was able to

1263
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:53,439
Speaker 10: be there last year. Of course I was an active

1264
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 10: last year, so I got to you know, kind of

1265
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 10: see it from outside of view, I kind of like

1266
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 10: a fan view, and it was pretty awesome. You know,

1267
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 10: that field, I don't know what was that a actressure? Hinfield?

1268
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 10: I mean, it's pretty legendary. So the Steelers organization is

1269
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 10: an awesome organization. They've been good for a long time.

1270
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 10: So to be able to play them at their places,

1271
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 10: you know, it's pretty unreal.

1272
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 8: Are those conversations Like with Bill O'Brien on the sideline

1273
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 8: during the game.

1274
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 1: I know you said yesterday on the radio that your

1275
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: relationship with him has grown a lot over these last

1276
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: couple of months.

1277
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean it's you know, it's kind of back

1278
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 10: and forth or whatever he sees, he lets me know.

1279
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 10: And then you know, if I'm seeing something on the

1280
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 10: field that you know, if they've showed it on film

1281
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 10: or I avage shown it on film, I'm kind of

1282
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 10: giving him that, you know, just throwing each other off,

1283
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 10: you know, throwing stuff off each other's brains and just

1284
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 10: you know, most majority of the time, it's you know,

1285
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 10: after the series, we're looking at the iPads. You know,

1286
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 10: if I miss a read or miss up, you know,

1287
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 10: miss a coverage, you know, he shows me, like what

1288
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 10: I can look at better or what I can you know,

1289
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,439
Speaker 10: what tendencies that they're showing that can kind of help

1290
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 10: me pre snap. So it's just kind of dissecting the

1291
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 10: previous drive and then kind of moving on and what

1292
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 10: we're gonna do the next drive And what.

1293
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 7: Do you feel like your your comfort level is throwing

1294
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 7: into juju Parker. You know some of those guys that

1295
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 7: maybe didn't have as many reps in the summer.

1296
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 10: At times, I'm comfortable with those guys one hundred percent.

1297
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,439
Speaker 10: You know, they're great players, and you know it makes

1298
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 10: it easy for a guy, you know, for a quarterback.

1299
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 10: You just put it really anywhere and those guys are gonna,

1300
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 10: you know, make a play on it. So you know,

1301
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 10: those guys are good receivers. And I'm excited to be,

1302
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 10: you know, be thrown to those guys.

1303
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: I do you go put a handle any pressure and

1304
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: not making something too big where that you know it

1305
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: becomes a hindrance.

1306
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, control what you can control. So it's

1307
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 10: you know, that's what we say around here. I guess,

1308
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 10: you know, I don't I'm not really big into those things,

1309
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 10: Like I'm really cool, calm and collected. That's kind of

1310
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 10: how you know, my dad, you know, brought me up.

1311
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 10: My mom brought me up. So I don't really try

1312
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 10: to dive into you know, trying to overwhelm myself or

1313
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 10: anything like that. I try to control what I can control,

1314
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 10: and whatever my read is, I try to do my read.

1315
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 10: And if something happens, I, you know, make a mistake,

1316
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 10: I try to go back and learn from it. You know.

1317
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 10: I try to really not dive into it and ride

1318
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 10: the roller coaster. I just try to stay, you know,

1319
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 10: a level.

1320
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 17: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, no

1321
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 17: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,

1322
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 17: everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx Where

1323
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 17: now mean's next for residential delivery only?

1324
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: And now great moments in.

1325
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 4: History saying Fred's back?

1326
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 2: Does that mean we will get American emails read today?

1327
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 2: So are you favorite the country emails?

1328
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 1: I read?

1329
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 6: I read the good ones that come in.

1330
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 1: It's like that guy and the guy, the guy and

1331
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: no American ones are good?

1332
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 18: No, I read, no gyms aren't good. I read the

1333
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 18: good ones that come in.

1334
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: It's like the guy in Norwood, Fred that was originally

1335
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: from the UK. Yeah, Eric doesn't like him, like, why

1336
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: would you ever go from there? To hear?

1337
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 18: Right, Fred, I can't wait till the next time you're

1338
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 18: not here because I'm not hosting.

1339
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 6: Tough, tough guy Paul can.

1340
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 1: Go and that you guys can fight it.

1341
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 18: Tough guy Paul can sit over there and bring all

1342
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 18: the energy he wants. You're the ball, so take some

1343
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:16,439
Speaker 18: vacation next week.

1344
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: What tough Paul can sit over there? But I have

1345
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: all the energy he wants. I never dug a hole before,

1346
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: and it's just that hard to readils and take calls.

1347
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: I'll do it the next time. A right, no problem.

1348
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: That's the energy you're looking for.

1349
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 3: That's another great moment from.

1350
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 6: Believe it or not. It's officially December, and with the

1351
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 6: holidays right around the corner, you might be realizing your

1352
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 6: house needs a holiday spruce. With Bob's Discount Furniture's unbelievable

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00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 6: prices and flexible financing on my Mattresses, furniture decor, and more,

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Speaker 6: you're sure to get impress your guests with comfort and style.

1355
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Speaker 6: Get the ultimate home team advantage with Bob's, the official

1356
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Speaker 6: furniture store of the New England Patriots. Pretty good job

1357
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 6: by me on that read. I think, no, not great.

1358
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: A couple of bubbles in the middle, pitchy dog. I'm

1359
00:56:58,960 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: not gonna lie.

1360
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:02,799
Speaker 6: I'm still trying to. I know they probably did.

1361
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: You hear the way Eric talked to me, And you

1362
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 1: wonder why he has not reached out and talked to

1363
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 1: me since he left.

1364
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 6: I don't know where you're from, Paul, but those are

1365
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 6: fighting words out in Holliston, the sticks of Holliston out there.

1366
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: Tough guy. He used to get so mad when when

1367
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: Fred started picking on him, and if I jumped in,

1368
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: it was way worse. It's way worse coming from you.

1369
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 6: Wouldn't it be kind of fun to bring Eric back,

1370
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 6: just like for right now and like a random show,

1371
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 6: just like so what do you even? What do you

1372
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 6: think of the pictures?

1373
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 1: But I think it would be great to find out

1374
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: if he knows what their record is.

1375
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 6: He probably has no idea you have any He completely

1376
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 6: tuned out, completely tuned out. Yeah, probably. Uh, we got

1377
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 6: a question here, No, I won't. We'll get back to him.

1378
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: Uh.

1379
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 6: I think Eldred heard us say his name earlier. He's

1380
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 6: he's on the phone now, Hey Aldred, what's going on?

1381
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 19: Hey? Hi, Okay, I got two questions. Okay, did y'all

1382
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 19: believe anything? You just said that about a couple about

1383
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,439
Speaker 19: a couple of things, get right, that we could score,

1384
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 19: we can win.

1385
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: No, oh you're talking about Prescott. Yah. Yeah they were.

1386
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: They were probably close a couple of times to being

1387
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: able to get in position to score some points. Were

1388
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: they close to scoring thirty? You know? And being a

1389
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: representable offense? No representative, I don't think so. I don't

1390
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: believe that.

1391
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 19: And and and Paul, I'm gonna say you on Michael Pennick, Okay,

1392
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 19: strong arm throws, agree and win in Washington.

1393
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: Agreed to New England. Absolutely agree, grandpoint accuracy, short, long.

1394
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 19: And deep and move.

1395
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: Agree agree for the most part, I like Pani agree.

1396
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 19: Yeah. But see, like I said, everybody want CAF, we

1397
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 19: get Caleb. Fine, but if we win and we lose

1398
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 19: those three quarterbacks, those three right there, you know that's gonna.

1399
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 5: Be the mill.

1400
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: And also think it's in No, I thought you were done.

1401
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: I apologize, I had finished.

1402
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 19: I'm done.

1403
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1404
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 1: I also think it was interesting that a lot of

1405
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: people were talking about Shador Sanders and that he says

1406
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: he says, he says he's staying, but a lot of

1407
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: the I don't know if they're current GMS personnel guys,

1408
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: but the word is that if he did come out,

1409
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: he would unequivocally be the third quarterback behind Williams and May.

1410
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 4: A lot of people decommitting from Colorado.

1411
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: Too, So yeah, but I mean the word. The word

1412
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: is he's absolutely staying for another year at Colorado. But

1413
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 1: I just thought it was interesting that people I don't

1414
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: look at him that way. I think he's I think

1415
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: he's an intriguing prospect, but I'm not sure I would

1416
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: put him in with with Williams and May as you

1417
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: know the slot him in. I mean, I like Daniels

1418
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: a lot better than than Sanders.

1419
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 19: Yeah, yeah, another question. Sure, I'll intriguing about May because

1420
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 19: I he May. I'm down here, I'll see the acc

1421
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 19: and he's not to mean he's not dead impressive, he's not,

1422
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 19: especially if flu Staate got hold of it. But you know,

1423
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 19: he's just not. But I can't see the injury.

1424
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he is a good combination of h

1425
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: thanks you know, mobility, Uh, not that he is like

1426
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: Michael Vick, but you know, good combination of mobility, size, uh,

1427
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: you know, pocket presence, arm strength. I think he has.

1428
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: I mean, to me, there's no comparison between him and Williams.

1429
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: But I can understand why people really like Drake May.

1430
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 1: I can see there's a lot there to like Dan.

1431
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I agree with Paul. I think he's intriguing.

1432
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 9: I think he has like a bunch of different tools

1433
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,479
Speaker 9: in his tool belt that I think, you know, with time,

1434
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 9: in the right coaching, they could make him great.

1435
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 5: But it's just tough right now.

1436
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 4: I think I'll be real, mister Whiskey ruined all quarterbacks

1437
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 4: for me.

1438
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 5: That's that's that's a fair statement.

1439
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 1: I think that's what you think. C J.

1440
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 4: Shroud, he's a baller.

1441
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, the guys preceded him at Ohio State didn't ruin

1442
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: all Ohio State quarterbacks, justin fields. I just want to

1443
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: make sure you were consistent. So, I mean you don't like.

1444
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 5: Sam how either.

1445
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 4: He's okay, I mean he carved us up. But yeah,

1446
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 4: I I he went in the fourth round.

1447
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah he went late.

1448
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but he's but he's a lot smaller than yep,

1449
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:18,439
Speaker 1: Drake May.

1450
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 6: I remember spending like all the twenty twenty one spring,

1451
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 6: like he said, on those quarterbacks. So I feel like

1452
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 6: I didn't expect to be back here this soon. But

1453
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 6: I feel like twenty twenty one was kind of like

1454
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 6: a little bit of a prep for like quarterback research,

1455
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 6: figuring out what you like. And I mean I just

1456
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 6: when you're in the middle of the draft though, you're

1457
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 6: kind of stuck in the middle of the first round,

1458
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 6: You're stuck with kind of what falls to you. But

1459
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 6: now it's like, if you're not aggressive, they've got a

1460
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 6: real choice, right well, you know, of course, but you

1461
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 6: know now they've got a real choice here, especially if

1462
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 6: it's at second overall, and you know there's there's just

1463
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 6: a lot to consider.

1464
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 4: I'll put I'd rather whiff on Williams and whiff on Bay.

1465
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:52,479
Speaker 6: I mean it's like it's you got a whiff on one.

1466
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,919
Speaker 4: Of those guys, right yeah, I mean, whoever takes can't

1467
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 4: whiff on somebody who're like what that guy like? If

1468
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 4: you take Cal Williams and the stinks, I'd rather have

1469
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 4: that happen than take Drake Manny's next Bremingham State.

1470
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 6: Who is this guy drafting?

1471
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 9: I think you have to be aggressive and go up

1472
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 9: and get your guy if you feel like that he

1473
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 9: is the one. And I think in this situation like,

1474
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 9: it's great to have both of those quarterbacks who have

1475
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 9: multiple tools in their tool bell.

1476
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 5: And they're not just one dimensional.

1477
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: May is much bigger than six four six one.

1478
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 6: Go back to the phones. We got Manny down in

1479
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 6: New Bedford him many.

1480
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 12: Hey, what's going on?

1481
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 20: Can you hear me?

1482
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1483
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 1: Hey, Yo, what's your take? Guy?

1484
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 12: I know we talked about go check guys the chance

1485
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 12: he's not gonna be there next year. But how we

1486
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 12: feel about Troy Brown, I'm not really too solebo on him.

1487
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 12: I think there's a lot of hiccups in that wide

1488
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 12: receiver corps. I feel like these receivers are getting no separation.

1489
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 12: I get it, and not like the best talent, but

1490
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 12: there's a lot of hiccups in that core there. What

1491
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 12: do we what do we feel about that?

1492
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 6: I mean, Fred's brought it up a lot, you know.

1493
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 6: I mean it's it's how can you feel good about

1494
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 6: any of the offensive coaches right now? I mean, nobody's

1495
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 6: really excelled. And I mean you Troy's been here for

1496
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 6: a few years and you just you haven't really been

1497
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 6: able to develop a wide receiver. I mean, I although

1498
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 6: I will say, I mean, you know, Jacoby Myers was

1499
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 6: pretty good, and he's been pretty good and tomorrow Douglas

1500
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 6: has been okay. I mean, I think if everyone was here,

1501
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 6: he would he would, you know, push back a little

1502
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 6: bit on just some of the miss you know, miscues

1503
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 6: that that Douglas has had as a rookie. But I

1504
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 6: think we're all sick of like not accepting those, like

1505
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 6: you know, you just like, look, he's gonna make some mistakes.

1506
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 6: He's a rookie. I'd much rather see him play and

1507
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 6: make mistakes than not play and make no mistakes.

1508
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 9: You know, I can't tell whether it's bad coaching or

1509
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 9: bad scouting, like we're Nikhil Harry and Taekwon Thornton just

1510
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 9: bad picks or and they uncoachable or can they be coached?

1511
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 5: But Tory Bown's not able to give him what data and.

1512
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 6: One thing like even like Nelson aguilor like I've watched

1513
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 6: him with the Ravens a little bit this year, looks

1514
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 6: like it's like a.

1515
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 21: Different guy like he did. I'm not to say that

1516
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 21: he's good, but it gets part of it. I think

1517
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 21: the development part is an element. Now they probably missed

1518
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 21: on both of those guys that you mentioned with Harry

1519
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 21: and and Thornton. But if they went somewhere else, might

1520
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:00,959
Speaker 21: they be more of goes both ways.

1521
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 6: I hate to say it, but I just like I

1522
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 6: would love to see Taekwon Thornton just do something like

1523
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 6: I don't know, he just seemed like he was finally

1524
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 6: on the verge last week, and like I kind of

1525
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 6: a given up hope on him, you know, but as

1526
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 6: I said on the show yesterday, like it just I

1527
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 6: think they could use him better. Like I just I

1528
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 6: think he has something. And that's like I almost wonder

1529
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 6: with like a Nelson Agilore, like if you had him

1530
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 6: in the right system and he looked and he was

1531
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 6: in the right spots, like could he contribute? Like he's

1532
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 6: the only one right now with with Douglass out that

1533
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,919
Speaker 6: looks like he moves like an NFL receiver. Everybody else

1534
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 6: is kind of plotting.

1535
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:32,959
Speaker 1: And but do you think that there will be any

1536
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 1: chance of him being like a real threat consistently, you know,

1537
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 1: six seven eight catches a game.

1538
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 6: No, I think he's probably a feeling of like a

1539
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 6: like a like last Johnson, like last week he catches

1540
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 6: that ball, Yeah to me, that's his sealing. Yeah, yeah, No,

1541
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 6: And I just like to see that. I guess this is.

1542
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 1: Oh no, I would.

1543
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 6: I would, But again to your point, I think third

1544
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 6: or fourth receiver, like a guy with some speed and

1545
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 6: some length, but you know somebody that it feels like

1546
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 6: you definitely have to avoid putting him in you know,

1547
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 6: double moves and you know things where he has to

1548
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 6: run nuanced routes like he just doesn't.

1549
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 1: Phil Perry talking about that yesterday and about how you know,

1550
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 1: he talked to numerous personnel guys after that draft all

1551
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: told him that he was a fifth round pick at

1552
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: best what we said, and you know, it just.

1553
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 6: Wasn't their guy, Like, it's not their kind of guy. Like,

1554
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 6: and I mean this is that whole draft was that

1555
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 6: was a head scratcher now in retrospective, but I don't know,

1556
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 6: you always like they take those guys and you're like,

1557
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 6: all right, I don't see it, but I'll let them

1558
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 6: gut him out on the field and see it. And

1559
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 6: I mean kind of the same with Strange. But then

1560
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 6: then it gets confirmed.

1561
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 4: That that nicey pickens tomorrow. So yeah, he was an option.

1562
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 1: So even even Pierce has you know, made made more

1563
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 1: plays to the players, you know, and and sky Moore

1564
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 1: is is a totally different kind of player. He's more

1565
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 1: of a like a versatile Mikole Hardman kind of guy.

1566
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 1: But they find ways to run some some run the

1567
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: ball with him a little bit like they did with

1568
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 1: Taekwon last week. He's not going to be a huge

1569
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 1: volume guy for the Chiefs, but he's you know, he's

1570
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 1: he's been active for them, but it's like and he's

1571
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 1: been a little disappointing for.

1572
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, but there's been a few guys like that. And

1573
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 6: I mean last year they won the super Bowl kind

1574
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 6: of with that same kind of like you have the

1575
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 6: core of Kelsey and Mahomes and you know when they

1576
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 6: got to have it moments, nine times out of ten

1577
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 6: they're going to have.

1578
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 1: A touchdown in the super Bowl.

1579
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 6: But you know, but then you have the complimentary pieces

1580
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 6: that you never quite know who's gonna do what. And

1581
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 6: you know, I think in that kind of thing, when

1582
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 6: you have you know, maybe to the Patriots point, my

1583
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 6: guys get pretty.

1584
01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 1: Good for them that you you and Evan yelled at

1585
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 1: me and stay over in the corner that she rice,

1586
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know, I didn't see it.

1587
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 6: I didn't see it.

1588
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 1: They went over there. You know, you don't grind. You

1589
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: don't grind tape like me. Cody two.

1590
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:48,400
Speaker 6: I didn't grind it. But uh now you know we're

1591
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 6: getting ready to get into all this again. I just

1592
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 6: I can't not. I can't wait.

1593
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 1: No, that's what that's the best part about picking in

1594
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: the top five, the top three hopefully, is you don't

1595
01:06:58,360 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 1: have to do that.

1596
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 6: No guy, this guy, Like that's why I like, I

1597
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 6: don't want to like commit to a guy right now,

1598
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 6: Like I feel like, you know, Eldred's like he's on

1599
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 6: all right, you're a Penis guy from now from here too. Four.

1600
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know how why he thought that. I

1601
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 1: was like anti I'm not picking panics at two.

1602
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 4: I'm anti panics.

1603
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,920
Speaker 1: But I think he's fine. I just don't look at

1604
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: him like Caleb Williams. I don't really think that's a

1605
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 1: shot at Michael Pennix to think he has that kind.

1606
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 4: Of I don't. That's what scares me.

1607
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 6: Injuries, Yeah, well.

1608
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 1: You guys know a lot about injuries like the two

1609
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 1: A CL part of it. Does that make him more

1610
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 1: susceptible to tearing an A C L. I don't, I don't,

1611
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: I don't. I asked that without I don't know.

1612
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 6: I mean, I look and I don't know the answer

1613
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 6: on that either, I would I mean, my question would be,

1614
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 6: does he take unnecessary hits? Is he you know, is

1615
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 6: he down? Does he not protect himself?

1616
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 4: Well?

1617
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 6: Like that that would be more the question. I don't

1618
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 6: think just in end of having an injury necessarily makes

1619
01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 6: it that he's going to get it again. But does

1620
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 6: it signal some kind of you know, I don't I

1621
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:58,280
Speaker 6: don't even know what what what kind of pace they

1622
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 6: were happened on, you know, I feel like.

1623
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 9: You would have to get him in an offense that

1624
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 9: one has a good offensive line, so he didn't feel

1625
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 9: like he has to run for his life every single time.

1626
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 9: But then two, I feel like he could. He couldn't

1627
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 9: be in a system where like he was designed to

1628
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 9: run a bunch like Justin Fields. I feel like you

1629
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 9: would probably have to protect him a little bit more

1630
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 9: kind of like what the Bills are trying to do

1631
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 9: with Josh Allen, where they're like, I don't want you

1632
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 9: running for your life every single play.

1633
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike McCarthy, how they have an an emergency appened

1634
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 1: dect to me today?

1635
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:25,959
Speaker 4: Oh showing up Sunday though, Yeah.

1636
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 1: He plans on coaching Sunday.

1637
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 5: I wonder if his doctors would agree with that.

1638
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 6: That's some prayers. Let's go down to Australia. Nick, what's

1639
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 6: going on?

1640
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 2: Nick?

1641
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 1: Hi?

1642
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 2: Guys?

1643
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 6: Good?

1644
01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 16: I just got a question for Paul and bought all right, Parpacetically,

1645
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 16: if they draft say Williams or May and then get

1646
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 16: a receiver, is it gonna look any different with Billy

1647
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 16: O'Brien running the offense? Or do you guys think they

1648
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 16: need to get someone else even with a new scheme

1649
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 16: like Ben Johnson or someone else's seems like, uh, Billo

1650
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 16: o'bron's things may be passed and the only player that

1651
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 16: could run it with Tom Brady.

1652
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, well that's a good question.

1653
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 1: Would like to see the scheme change. I don't mind

1654
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 1: if Bill O'Brien changes scheme and he stays, but I

1655
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: don't want to run the Ronnie a Hard offense anymore.

1656
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 1: I'm kind of done with that. I've been running for

1657
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 1: twenty plus years now. They won six Super Bowls with

1658
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,679
Speaker 1: that offense, not diminishing it. I just think that it's

1659
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 1: kind of past its expoll.

1660
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 6: It's just like, what about the offenses doesn't work?

1661
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 4: You know?

1662
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 6: That's I guess what.

1663
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 1: I think, relying on the pinpoint decision making of the

1664
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 1: quarterback and receiver on every play is too much. Something

1665
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:41,839
Speaker 1: that is kind of proven to be unique to Tom Brady. Yeah,

1666
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:43,720
Speaker 1: like you can have a lot of success when the

1667
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 1: guy is flawless running the operation, and when he.

1668
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 6: Is, you tend to put it more on the receivers

1669
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 6: that the receivers can't pick the offense up.

1670
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 1: So and then I looked at it this way. I'm

1671
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 1: starting to think about this a little bit. You remember

1672
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 1: how we used to have fun, you know, tis you

1673
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 1: you were probably a little young, you know when some

1674
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 1: of these guys. But when it was like Donald Hayes

1675
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 1: coming in and uh, you know, Joey Galloway and Tory

1676
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 1: Holt and Reggie Wayne, and it was like Chad Ocho Cinco,

1677
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 1: he's dummies. They can't get now. No one can get

1678
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 1: it now.

1679
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:19,439
Speaker 6: No one got in the quarterbacks.

1680
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 1: No, I'm talking about the receivers, like no one really

1681
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 1: is making the right show with you know, Evan is

1682
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 1: coming in every Tuesday and we're talking about to Mario

1683
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 1: Douglas looked like he kind of was in the wrong

1684
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 1: spot or Taekwon Thornton is stumbling coming out of his

1685
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 1: route because he looks a little unsure of himself or

1686
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 1: you know, and maybe it's because these guys aren't any

1687
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,120
Speaker 1: good and those guys were of I mean, when we're

1688
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 1: talking about Joey Galloway and Tory Holt and Reggie Wayne,

1689
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 1: there's three guys with Hall of Fame talent. Now they're

1690
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 1: not all in the Hall of Fame, but the Hall

1691
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 1: of Fame talents. They knew how to play. Ocho Cinko

1692
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 1: knew how to play. Maybe this is just a little

1693
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:59,600
Speaker 1: too hard on everybody, you know, And it wasn't for everybody.

1694
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 1: It was more for a unique skill set of guys,

1695
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 1: you know. And I just that, like when you asked me,

1696
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 1: what about the offense, do you not want to I

1697
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 1: don't want to rely on you know, everybody being on

1698
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:13,679
Speaker 1: the same page pre and post snap.

1699
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1700
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1701
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:16,640
Speaker 6: And I mean I think we talked about this a

1702
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 6: little bit a couple of weeks ago, but I mean

1703
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:19,600
Speaker 6: I tie it again to like last year, and like

1704
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 6: the notion of we're going to simplify the offense now,

1705
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 6: I think that got lost in the fact that it

1706
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 6: was Matt Patricia and Joe Judge doing the job of

1707
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 6: simplifying the offense, but I think all of us were

1708
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 6: That's one.

1709
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 1: Thing I did. It's one thing I won't criticize Belichick for.

1710
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:35,640
Speaker 1: I think he recognized the fact that he needed to

1711
01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 1: change the offense a little bit. I only criticized how

1712
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 1: we tried to do it.

1713
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:41,639
Speaker 6: And so how did that How did that manifest itself

1714
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 6: now with Bill O'Brien. Did they just say, well, we're

1715
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 6: getting complicated again because it's Bill O'Brien and that's just

1716
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 6: kind of what he does. Or did they say, look,

1717
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 6: you know, it didn't work great last year, but we

1718
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 6: want to keep it simple.

1719
01:11:50,920 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 1: It was my contention that they had to change the

1720
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 1: offense when O'Brien, I mean, Judge and Patricia were here

1721
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 1: because they didn't know the offense right to implement it.

1722
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:01,759
Speaker 1: Whereas O'Brien's back, he can do the same offense because

1723
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 1: he already ran it.

1724
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 6: Which makes me wonder if you know, if Bill was

1725
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 6: to stick around, and you know, in one of these

1726
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 6: different universes, like in the multiverse of Patriots twenty twenty

1727
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:13,639
Speaker 6: four multiverse, you know there is one multiverse where Bill

1728
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 6: is here for sure, you know, would he try to

1729
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 6: simplify again or you know, also.

1730
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 1: Didn't change the offense all that much, by the way,

1731
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 1: I mean just according to the offensive.

1732
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 6: Lineman, right like, but I don't know, there's just so

1733
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 6: much the offenses and I mean we you know, would

1734
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 6: be great to get an offensive coordinator in here and

1735
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 6: somebody who could actually tell you, like you know, how

1736
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 6: they were trying to simplify it was it.

1737
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 1: Just find a new system and have someone come in

1738
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 1: that knows the system, and then everybody's on the same level.

1739
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:41,799
Speaker 1: You implement it from the ground floor.

1740
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 6: Well, it always sounds great when you have like the

1741
01:12:44,439 --> 01:12:46,680
Speaker 6: air Coriel offense, I think is one where it's just

1742
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 6: like it's a six, five, two, so like you know,

1743
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 6: you just got the first guy runs a six route,

1744
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 6: this guy runs a five, and this guy runs a two.

1745
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 6: You know, like it's just like it makes instant sense

1746
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 6: to you. And then when you hear some of like

1747
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 6: the Patriots stuff and how fluid it is, and you know,

1748
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 6: if it's this, you got to go there, and if

1749
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 6: it's that, you gotta go here.

1750
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about it. And I know there's

1751
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 1: an element of option routes to all these systems, you know,

1752
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 1: it's not always automatic, but I do feel like there's

1753
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 1: more on the quarterback, especially, but the quarterback and the

1754
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 1: receiver to make those decisions on the fly. I think

1755
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 1: that that makes it a little bit more challenging.

1756
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 9: I feel like these what they have right now, they're

1757
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 9: not capable of doing those things on the fly, Like

1758
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 9: I feel like just I mean, you saw it in

1759
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 9: ZAPPI too, like where there were so many opportunities where

1760
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:32,439
Speaker 9: you could have gotten.

1761
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 5: Into a delay of game but just missed it.

1762
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 9: I mean, I feel like that's why the wide receivers

1763
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 9: have been so confused and in the wrong spot or

1764
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:40,240
Speaker 9: in the same spot as somebody else.

1765
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 4: It's just it's not dumb it down a little bit.

1766
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 6: How many times do you feel like this offense has

1767
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:47,560
Speaker 6: just been like snap catch throw completion, like you know

1768
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 6: what I mean, like just happening that quick like it.

1769
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 6: It just feels like those plays are gone and it's

1770
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 6: always like going through a progression and the chaos happening,

1771
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 6: and then the last second they kind of get it off.

1772
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 6: Oh boy, drop the screen. Well, we got lots of

1773
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 6: emails coming in here.

1774
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 1: And slant runoff tackle, lots.

1775
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 6: Lots of emails hitting them in the hands any emails here?

1776
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 1: Why don't you read?

1777
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 10: Okay?

1778
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 6: I thank you, Paul, I was trying to cue you there.

1779
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 6: Uh Kyle from Pembroke, Good afternoon. I think Benjing Royland

1780
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 6: would be a mistake. It's obviously struggling and having an

1781
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 6: experienced kicker on the practice squad to talk to could

1782
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 6: be valuable. But just like basketball, he needs to see

1783
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 6: one go in to start building back up his confidence,

1784
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:27,759
Speaker 6: especially as a rookie.

1785
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 9: I like that comparison because I feel like, you know,

1786
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 9: a three point shooter, if you're just having like an

1787
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 9: off couple of games, I feel like it could be

1788
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 9: tough if you get yanked and then you just don't

1789
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 9: see the court again for six games, because I feel

1790
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:41,440
Speaker 9: like you lose your flow, you get cold.

1791
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 4: And once again, what's the worst that happens? If he

1792
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,479
Speaker 4: keeps me it like we're gonna lose. Like it's different

1793
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:46,480
Speaker 4: if this was happening.

1794
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 1: If they were ten to too, I would totally understand, like,

1795
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 1: this is going to cost us a game here, you

1796
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 1: know we have to We can't. We can't afford it.

1797
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:56,639
Speaker 1: They can't afford to play through a young guy's struggle.

1798
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 4: Just I mean, you spent the pick on him, so

1799
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:00,360
Speaker 4: let's see what we can do with it.

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01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 6: Alex and Raleigh, North Carolina. I want to write in

1801
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 6: and say that the old dog Belichick needs some new tricks.

1802
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 6: I don't want to see him bringing back Josh. I

1803
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 6: don't want to see him trade out of the top three,

1804
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 6: which is where we will end up this season. I

1805
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 6: don't want to see him bringing back old qbs who

1806
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 6: he tried to work before. I saw a tweet which

1807
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 6: I know doesn't mean much that the Athletics says if

1808
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 6: Belichick is still around, he could end up bringing back

1809
01:15:22,479 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 6: Jimmy g Is our quarterback upon being released from the Raiders.

1810
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 6: A lot of what ifs here, but if this happens,

1811
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 6: Bill needs to go immediately.

1812
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't think there's any chance. I did see

1813
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 1: that report like last week. I don't think there's any no.

1814
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 6: And that was like a like a throwaway line in

1815
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:37,560
Speaker 6: a Jeff how thing that he was just kind of positing,

1816
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:39,719
Speaker 6: like bait things that could happen.

1817
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,599
Speaker 4: Something I'll be intriguing for a VET is maybe kirk

1818
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 4: Off the Achilles. Oh yeah, that's something that like, you know,

1819
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 4: maybe you take Maserati, Marv and then you get the

1820
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 4: old guy Maserati Marv No, I don't know, just Kirk

1821
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 4: he's I've never been that much of a fan of him,

1822
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 4: but that he might be able.

1823
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,439
Speaker 1: To be neither, but he would obviously be the best

1824
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 1: available of the veterans.

1825
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 6: Oh, he's getting a little love here on the email.

1826
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:05,680
Speaker 6: It's just from Christian with the tia N says more

1827
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 6: matist less pinpull bazaar. Ah, right, thank you Christian.

1828
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 1: You should send Devin a little text on it.

1829
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 6: Of course, looking forward it too.

1830
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 4: I will thank you.

1831
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,639
Speaker 6: We got a little conspiracy theory here from Moyses.

1832
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 1: Oh, I love it.

1833
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 6: Uh. Is there any validity to my theory that Belichick

1834
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 6: wanted to tank on the twenty twenty season the fan

1835
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 6: base would have a bad season because the COVID season

1836
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:32,600
Speaker 6: was weird. The Pats went through free agency in a

1837
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 6: draft without adding talent to an offensive roster that I

1838
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 6: think is worse than the current roster at their best.

1839
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 6: Did they think Jared Stidham could be the starter in

1840
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 6: the league or did they not? Did they know no

1841
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 6: one would want to sign Cam Newton? Was Cam signed?

1842
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:45,759
Speaker 6: To make it seem like they were at least trying

1843
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 6: to win but can't play better with that team than

1844
01:16:48,040 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 6: they thought he would. And let's not forget the offense

1845
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:52,680
Speaker 6: consisted of de mere Bird, Nikhil Harry, thirty four year

1846
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 6: old Julian Edelman, Devin Asiassi, Dalton Keene and Ryan Freakin.

1847
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 6: Is oh, sorry, Claire, Yeah, they wanted him.

1848
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think people wanted them to tank and he wouldn't.

1849
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 6: I think I also say that team win that many

1850
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 6: games though, Now that's a dog like this team seems

1851
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 6: like an all star team.

1852
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 4: They were like at least it was like I mean,

1853
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 4: if I say it was miserable last year, but looking back,

1854
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 4: it was kind of fun. But all I say is,

1855
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 4: what was that the Trevor Lawrence here, Mac John, Trevor Lawrence. Yeah,

1856
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:20,720
Speaker 4: if you got the first round pick, gunned your head.

1857
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 4: I don't know if Bill takes Trevor Lawrence, I'm sorry.

1858
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:24,880
Speaker 1: If they got the number one overall, yeah, I don't

1859
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 1: know he would have taken Oh, I just don't know.

1860
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 1: If it was the number one overall pick, you would

1861
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:30,600
Speaker 1: have you gotta Yeah. Now, I'm not telling you he

1862
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 1: would have taken any of the other three, the other

1863
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 1: four if he was higher than fifteen. I don't know what,

1864
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 1: like when or if he would have taken any of

1865
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 1: those four. But if you got number one, he would

1866
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 1: have taken Trevor.

1867
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 4: Lawrence, he would hope. So, Yeah, but would it be

1868
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 4: the same situation, That's all we're saying.

1869
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, back to the phones, Jody down Atlanta, Hey, Jody, Hey,

1870
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 6: what's up guys much?

1871
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 1: How are you not doing good?

1872
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 20: I have a little scenario we hadn't talked about very

1873
01:17:55,080 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 20: much on here, but is there a scenario where I'm

1874
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 20: I'm not saying I want this to happen, but I

1875
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:05,480
Speaker 20: could just see it happening. That they make Bill O'Brien

1876
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:09,639
Speaker 20: the head coach because he has familiarity with the system

1877
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:13,080
Speaker 20: that's you know, how the Patriot Way is, and Crafts

1878
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 20: are comfortable with him. Then they promote Drawing Mayo to

1879
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 20: decordinator and we kind of see almost like a run

1880
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 20: back with the same staff instead of instead of going

1881
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:28,040
Speaker 20: outside and getting people from outside the organization.

1882
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that the possibility for that

1883
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 1: would be the opposite of that Mayo is the head

1884
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 1: coach and they keep O'Brien as the offensive coordinator. But

1885
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think that's going to happen, but I do.

1886
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 1: I think it's on the table.

1887
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:43,839
Speaker 5: I feel like it's on the table.

1888
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:46,719
Speaker 9: I just wouldn't want the Patriot Way and the same

1889
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 9: staff to still be here. I think some people need

1890
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 9: to be switched up, like, for example, Troy Brown.

1891
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 5: I think that changes needed.

1892
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 9: I don't know if it's in the scouting department or

1893
01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 9: you know, different positions on staff, but I think that

1894
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:02,200
Speaker 9: you could end up with the same type of bad roster,

1895
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 9: bad team if you just keep everything the same.

1896
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:04,679
Speaker 5: And a remove Bill.

1897
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 1: Thanks Jody, appreciate it's in play, Jody, I mean I do.

1898
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 1: I think there's a chance that Bill Belichick is among

1899
01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 1: the only ones to go. You know, there'll be others

1900
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 1: to go, but I could see them keeping a structure.

1901
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 6: But I like, I like your thing where you just

1902
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 6: like have to point out and I'll read an email

1903
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 6: here in a second. You know, like you're just going

1904
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 6: to take out the best part, the best part and

1905
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 6: expect it to be different.

1906
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:31,080
Speaker 1: Like to me, the best part of everything that they

1907
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 1: have right now is Belichick's football mind. You know, because

1908
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:38,599
Speaker 1: I believe me, I take as many shots as everybody else.

1909
01:19:39,439 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 1: I don't ever say that Bill doesn't know what he's

1910
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 1: talking about when it comes to Xi's nose and football,

1911
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 1: I don't. I've never said that and I never will.

1912
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 1: So you're taken that part out of the equation by

1913
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 1: leaving everybody else here.

1914
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would not do that.

1915
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 4: Well.

1916
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 6: Trent from Sylvan Lake feels kind of similar, he says,

1917
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 6: although says the Bill hate is unreal. Why would you

1918
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 6: ever fire a d offensive minded head coach and then

1919
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 6: replace him with his own DC It makes zero sense.

1920
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 6: Nobody even knows what Mayo does for this team, but

1921
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 6: don't let that stop all the spoiled fans from wanting him.

1922
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:11,639
Speaker 6: Either keep Bill in the defense that he has built

1923
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 6: and successfully run, which would be my vote, or do

1924
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 6: an entire teardown and start from scratch.

1925
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 1: In fairness, I think that's what most people want. It's

1926
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:21,160
Speaker 1: the entire teardown from scratch.

1927
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:24,639
Speaker 6: This is to you, Paul, and this is continuing along.

1928
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 4: Paul.

1929
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,559
Speaker 6: Do you really think with one of these rookie qbs

1930
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:29,759
Speaker 6: next season this team could go too and ten again?

1931
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 6: Come on, Bud, that's crazy. Bill has never gone to

1932
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 6: and ten before, and with a real QB the team

1933
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 6: would be a playoff contender this season. So why blame

1934
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 6: it all on Bill.

1935
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 1: What are we talking about next year's record. I'd never

1936
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 1: never say anything about next year's record. I don't know

1937
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 1: he called you, Bud though, No, But I mean, did

1938
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 1: I say that if they take Caleb Williams they're going

1939
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 1: to go to and ten again next year? I don't know.

1940
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:55,160
Speaker 6: Now do you think if we take.

1941
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 4: Him we'll go to in ten?

1942
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 1: Can I see what else do they do? If you

1943
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 1: put Caleb Williams on this team, this current roster, you

1944
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:03,680
Speaker 1: have a good chance of going to and ten. I

1945
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 1: agree because I don't think this is all Mac Jones's fault.

1946
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 1: I've never said that. Yeah, I think I'm with you.

1947
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 1: I think it's a lot of Mac Jones, But I

1948
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 1: don't think it's all Mac Jones's fault.

1949
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 6: Back to the phones, Jafar is out in Minnesota, hate you.

1950
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 22: Far, Hey, this is the first time calling in. They're

1951
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 22: listening for about seven years, and I heard on the

1952
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 22: podcast not that long ago you guys were talking about

1953
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 22: putting everything on Mac Jones, and you know, maybe they're

1954
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:34,000
Speaker 22: doing too much, but I feel that most quarterbacks have

1955
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,680
Speaker 22: won in the past who knows ten years, they know

1956
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:39,759
Speaker 22: how to do everything in terms of bringing the defense

1957
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 22: and making the right checks, and I feel like everything

1958
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 22: is on them. But I don't know if Bill Belichick

1959
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 22: has been doing too much too early with these quarterbacks.

1960
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 22: I feel that in order for you to win the

1961
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 22: Super Bowl, you need to have everything on you. You know,

1962
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 22: you need to have multiple plays that you can check

1963
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:57,200
Speaker 22: too correctly. But I just don't know if we do

1964
01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 22: that too soon or if there's too much too early.

1965
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 22: But I feel like it's a give and take on

1966
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 22: that I could take that like off the air.

1967
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you, far.

1968
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:08,640
Speaker 1: I think a lot of that's in play, Mike. What

1969
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 1: do you think? I mean, Like I already talked about

1970
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:14,520
Speaker 1: how I think it's a little complicated the system.

1971
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:16,639
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, it is. I just I mean I wish

1972
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 6: I knew more, I think, is what you know. I

1973
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:21,040
Speaker 6: wish I could really pull out the threads and really

1974
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 6: know how complicated it is. I mean, I you know,

1975
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 6: I hear everything you say, and I mean, I think

1976
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:29,000
Speaker 6: it was something I always liked about the you know,

1977
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 6: the Patriots offense and you know, in theory, was like,

1978
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 6: I think it's ideal to imagine that your offense can

1979
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:38,640
Speaker 6: adjust after the snap to what the defense does and

1980
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 6: you know, I think in a perfect world, once you're

1981
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 6: able to execute that, it's hard to go back and

1982
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 6: just say, let's just do what we do. I mean,

1983
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 6: and certainly they're getting the feedback now based on the

1984
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 6: performances that guys can't really do it, and so at

1985
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 6: some point you have to just say, look, we don't

1986
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 6: have the team that can can execute this anymore. As

1987
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,640
Speaker 6: much as it feels like it would be ideal to

1988
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 6: be able to challenge defenses that way, so that no

1989
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 6: matter what they're spinning on us post snap, we have

1990
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 6: you know, a bunch of players that can all adjust,

1991
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:08,640
Speaker 6: but it just seems too far away. Everything seems disjointed.

1992
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 6: They're not able to stack drives. I mean, you know,

1993
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:13,680
Speaker 6: they have a historic level of points right now in

1994
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 6: a bad way. So, but is the answer just to

1995
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:19,640
Speaker 6: completely scrap the system and go back to you know

1996
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 6: and completely go to something different that you know, with

1997
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 6: new coaches, I mean, maybe you know, that might be

1998
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 6: what it has to be.

1999
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's going to depend on how the crafts

2000
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 1: want to proceed, you know, if if they in fact

2001
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 1: move on from Belichick, what they want, what they're comfortable with.

2002
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, if you're asking me what I would rather have.

2003
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 1: It would be a complete tear down and start over.

2004
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 1: And I would understand and recognize that that's probably going

2005
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 1: to mean back to the guy who think I think

2006
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 1: he thinks he's making fun of me, but I agree

2007
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 1: with it, Like you're probably going to struggle.

2008
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 6: Again next year, yeah, you know, and if.

2009
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 1: The if the rookie quarterback is really good, that maybe

2010
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:59,639
Speaker 1: you you win six games, you know, instead of two

2011
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:02,600
Speaker 1: that they have now. But I don't have any illusions

2012
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 1: that you're just gonna like make a whole new system

2013
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 1: and snap your fingers and be a contender. Takes time.

2014
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 4: The best scenario for rookie quarterback would be the Texans

2015
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 4: right now, just like new coach, new new quarterback.

2016
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 1: And there's you know, I think that the and I

2017
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 1: know the AFC South is like record wise, they're doing

2018
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:24,120
Speaker 1: much better, but I don't think it's a great division.

2019
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 1: I think Tennessee is terrible, sorry, Mike. I think that

2020
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 1: the Colts are much like the Texans, benefiting from you know,

2021
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 1: like the best team in that division is not unbeatable,

2022
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, so you can go

2023
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 1: into a game with Jacksonville and you can expect to

2024
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 1: win it. You know, you might not win. I think

2025
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 1: Jacksonville is the best team in that division. You've got,

2026
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 1: you know, games that could go either way against the

2027
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 1: in the other four games. And I also think the

2028
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 1: Patriots could benefit from that a little bit next year

2029
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 1: because you're going to get the fourth place team in

2030
01:24:57,280 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 1: a couple of divisions plus the NF one. Right, like

2031
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:04,400
Speaker 1: those games that need to be decided, Like you'll put,

2032
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:07,679
Speaker 1: what are the divisions they play next year, Mike? If

2033
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:10,640
Speaker 1: they played the North, they play the AFC.

2034
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 6: North, And it's my tom My head, I gotta look.

2035
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 1: NFC West in the NFC West.

2036
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:18,679
Speaker 6: But I mean, what are the so so twenty twenty

2037
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 6: four they play, Yeah, they play the AFC South.

2038
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:23,599
Speaker 1: Okay, so they play the South next year. So they'll

2039
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 1: get the fourth place team in the AFC North and

2040
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 1: the fourth place team in the AFC West, plus the

2041
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 1: fourth place team in the NFC division that they don't play,

2042
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 1: you know, whatever the rotation is. So that's three games

2043
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 1: against fellow last place teams that can help you, you know,

2044
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 1: that can that can help you sort of, you know,

2045
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 1: like I said, go from two to three wins to

2046
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 1: five or six.

2047
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 6: So Chad's got a game. I kind of like this one.

2048
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 6: Would you rather get the rookie QB of your choosing,

2049
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 6: but you have to stick with BB or get the

2050
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:55,799
Speaker 6: wide receiver of your choosing and they have an MVP season,

2051
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 6: But you have to figure out the HC and the

2052
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:01,000
Speaker 6: QB situation in free agency RLS, we're not the draft

2053
01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 6: I have.

2054
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:06,599
Speaker 1: He turns out to be a great receiver. Yeah, yeah,

2055
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:09,600
Speaker 1: I'll take that. Yeah, I'll take the known commodity of

2056
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 1: a great player.

2057
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:13,000
Speaker 4: I'll take And like, what if you get the quarterback

2058
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 4: and it's just the same thing, right, You're not getting

2059
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 4: him the help he needs. And now we're talking about

2060
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 4: this in twenty twenty eight.

2061
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, and I would be scared that he would be

2062
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:26,759
Speaker 9: mishandled again and not given the proper resources to be great,

2063
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 9: like you know, offensive line help and talent around him,

2064
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:32,400
Speaker 9: like weapons and everything. So I would definitely have to

2065
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 9: go with the wide receiver. I feel like that's the

2066
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 9: safer bit.

2067
01:26:35,880 --> 01:26:37,719
Speaker 6: We got another game here, games.

2068
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 1: Good job, good job, peeps.

2069
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:43,240
Speaker 6: Gosh, she said, man, he said. I came up with

2070
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 6: a quick guess who game that will hopefully lift up

2071
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 6: everyone's spirits, especially Mike do I seem down to that?

2072
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 1: Yes, you always seem to depressed. You are a wicked

2073
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 1: handsome I said that all.

2074
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:55,679
Speaker 6: The time, Paul, You're making me blush. All right, Patriot

2075
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:57,880
Speaker 6: number one. This is a there's gonna be some hints

2076
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 6: Matisse here on the spot here. I don't know, I

2077
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 6: you're gonna be able to get anyse I played at

2078
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 6: tight end for the Patriots for nine years, wearing eighty seven.

2079
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 4: A trick question.

2080
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:13,760
Speaker 1: No, did you just say, oh you can? You're only

2081
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:15,879
Speaker 1: allowed one guess? So if you're wrong, you're wrong.

2082
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 6: All right? You want hint too, hint too.

2083
01:27:18,479 --> 01:27:18,599
Speaker 2: It.

2084
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 6: I ended my career with only playing for one other

2085
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 6: team outside of the Patriot organization.

2086
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:24,599
Speaker 1: So I'm going to say Ben Coates.

2087
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:28,560
Speaker 6: I was leaving ben Kotze, although Gronk will be with

2088
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, not question sure that he did nine,

2089
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,440
Speaker 6: but but one team and good, good popo.

2090
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 1: So that's what he was probably looking for. Obviously, say Gronk.

2091
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:39,479
Speaker 1: I thought the obvious was Coats.

2092
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 4: I didn't even think it was one of the two.

2093
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:43,680
Speaker 1: That was typical Paul with the CTE, I forget the guy,

2094
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 1: go right out of the nineties and I go right

2095
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 1: back to my era.

2096
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 6: Hint number one. I wore number twenty four for the

2097
01:27:49,800 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 6: Patriots during my tenure. All right, so you can process

2098
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 6: some of those names.

2099
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 1: See now I'm ignoring Stefan Gilmour law, but go ahead.

2100
01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 6: After leaving the Patriots, I went on to play corner

2101
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:00,599
Speaker 6: for three more teams in the NFL.

2102
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 1: The Great Ty i't.

2103
01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:06,760
Speaker 6: Out of my whole time spent in New England. There

2104
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:09,320
Speaker 6: were only two years I made the play Pro Bowl

2105
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 6: and first team All Pro, and only one season where

2106
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 6: I was a league leader in I n T S.

2107
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 6: I think I believe in you. I believe in you.

2108
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:20,679
Speaker 6: I know this number twenty four. He's a corner back

2109
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:23,400
Speaker 6: not too long ago. You can do it to me

2110
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 6: twenty four step gil.

2111
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 4: Trick right here.

2112
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 6: It wasn't the reverse trip, I really I wanted to.

2113
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 6: I wanted that for you. I wanted that for you

2114
01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:36,799
Speaker 6: for three teams.

2115
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:38,800
Speaker 4: We gave him away for a bag of chips.

2116
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 1: There's some ships. Yeah, the bag of trip.

2117
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:48,960
Speaker 6: I'm the best corner on this team. Uh, he's so humble.

2118
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 6: Hitt one. I signed with the Patriots after playing with

2119
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 6: the Dolphins. Oh this is well, this is kind of

2120
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 6: a tricky one. I was a linebacker who only spent

2121
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 6: four seasons with the Pats, and I accumulated twenty two

2122
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 6: point five sacks during my time with the Patriots. I'm

2123
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 6: going to give this one to you guys, because I

2124
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 6: don't it's it's confusing.

2125
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 2: Can you give me.

2126
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 6: He isn't most known for the Dolphins. He played for

2127
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:19,920
Speaker 6: the Dolphins after here. I don't. I don't think this

2128
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 6: is the hit. Number one might be. No, he played

2129
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 6: with another team in the NFC first. He had twenty

2130
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 6: two and a half sacks four season, Convin Noy. Yeah,

2131
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:32,599
Speaker 6: so I think it was a little bit of mistake

2132
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 6: there in the email.

2133
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 5: Playing with the Ravens.

2134
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, he signed with the Ravens. And I saw Logan

2135
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:40,720
Speaker 1: Ryan signed with San Francisco yesterday.

2136
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:43,679
Speaker 4: As Harmon going to sign somewhere next like Harmon was still.

2137
01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 1: In the league.

2138
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I think he's maybe Chicago.

2139
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 9: Was.

2140
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 1: When you go to and ten, you sort of lose

2141
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 1: sight of the personnel around the league.

2142
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 6: Well, I mean to be fair, like, I feel like

2143
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:57,800
Speaker 6: they could have kind of used the Ron Harmon this

2144
01:29:57,880 --> 01:29:59,599
Speaker 6: year as like a free safety type.

2145
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 1: But I maybe he tells me the defense isn't that

2146
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:05,559
Speaker 1: his green bananas but defens is like lights out.

2147
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 6: Now, well there were you know, uh, I know, I know,

2148
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 6: Paul how much you loved the EPA stats and uh

2149
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 6: they're thirty first. Got this today from an EPA against

2150
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:14,759
Speaker 6: what is it Steaks?

2151
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 1: There's a little Steaks gift package holiday gift pack.

2152
01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:20,680
Speaker 6: You feel good about Christmas this year? You're doing a

2153
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:23,040
Speaker 6: good job. You're gonna stock up on some presents there.

2154
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:25,800
Speaker 1: For Well, I did get a couple of things that

2155
01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 1: she didn't tell me about, so I do feel good.

2156
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 1: I always feel good when this when there's something that

2157
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 1: she didn't have to necessarily drop a bunch of hints about.

2158
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:35,760
Speaker 1: But yeah, I have some work to do based on

2159
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:38,840
Speaker 1: my birthday missteps.

2160
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 9: Because I hate buying Christmas gifts Like no one else

2161
01:30:42,479 --> 01:30:45,879
Speaker 9: has to buy gifts for someone else on their birthday.

2162
01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:47,559
Speaker 6: Well, you can buy them before your birthday.

2163
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:49,639
Speaker 5: No, it's annoying. I hate it.

2164
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:53,559
Speaker 1: I enjoy it when I I mean it's rare. But

2165
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:55,840
Speaker 1: when I have that one thing that I know that

2166
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:58,840
Speaker 1: someone's going to really like and not expect. It doesn't

2167
01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 1: happen all the time. But when I come up with

2168
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:02,599
Speaker 1: something that I know is going to be a hit,

2169
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 1: I really enjoy buying.

2170
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 6: Too, And I thought last year that president for me

2171
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 6: was was tickets to the Stevie Nicks Billy Joel concert,

2172
01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:12,160
Speaker 6: which we decided not to go to because it was raining.

2173
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:15,000
Speaker 1: I didn't pan out for you didn't.

2174
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 6: Pan out Elfrim Wisconsin. It worries me a bit how

2175
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:22,360
Speaker 6: much I agree with dark Deuce. But I really think

2176
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:24,439
Speaker 6: nothing on this team is good enough. I know he's

2177
01:31:24,479 --> 01:31:26,200
Speaker 6: not here, but Evan is crazy for wanting to make

2178
01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:28,679
Speaker 6: Mayo the DC and hire an offensive coach. You're gonna

2179
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:31,000
Speaker 6: hire someone in and not let them pick their own DC.

2180
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:33,920
Speaker 6: A new coach will be absolutely will be looking over

2181
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:37,000
Speaker 6: his shoulder all the time talking about meddling ownership.

2182
01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. I haven't really gotten into it this week because

2183
01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 1: it's not the time, because the defense has been perfectly fine.

2184
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:46,000
Speaker 1: Like I think you know when you love ten, ten

2185
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:48,240
Speaker 1: and six, it's just not the time. I agree with

2186
01:31:48,280 --> 01:31:50,639
Speaker 1: the sentiment of that email. I don't think you need

2187
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:52,879
Speaker 1: to keep girod Mayo in order to keep the defense

2188
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:55,799
Speaker 1: playing at the level it's playing. Like, I think their

2189
01:31:55,880 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 1: defense is fine. I don't like is he the only

2190
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 1: that you know? It's just because of the Belichicks in

2191
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:06,680
Speaker 1: Drodmeo that they're playing well, yeah, like I think that

2192
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:07,760
Speaker 1: somebody else could do that.

2193
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:10,400
Speaker 6: I mean, and that was the point. You don't think

2194
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:13,720
Speaker 6: plays there well, there aren't game changing defenses really. I mean,

2195
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:15,880
Speaker 6: you know, maybe a couple, but it's just I don't

2196
01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 6: think that the bar is so high that you know,

2197
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:19,720
Speaker 6: and I mean maybe if you were coming off one

2198
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:21,680
Speaker 6: of those seasons like oh three or something where it's

2199
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:23,680
Speaker 6: just like my god, this team is clicking on all

2200
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 6: cylinders on defense. But I mean, I honestly think, like

2201
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:27,720
Speaker 6: I was just about to say, like, I think the

2202
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:30,080
Speaker 6: thirty first in EP against the pass. I mean, it's

2203
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 6: not like is it that low, It's really low. It

2204
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 6: just came out today and you know they send us

2205
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:34,720
Speaker 6: the little things.

2206
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:37,160
Speaker 1: They believe I hit my tongue for two days, so.

2207
01:32:37,640 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 6: You know, it's it's it's not perfect.

2208
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 1: And I mean, I just think it's easy to look

2209
01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:43,640
Speaker 1: at the point sometimes and just say that, you know,

2210
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:45,559
Speaker 1: this is what it is. It's like I said, I

2211
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:48,559
Speaker 1: think during the break, I said, like, I I feel

2212
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:50,280
Speaker 1: like some of these teams scored the amount of points

2213
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:52,360
Speaker 1: that they needed to score to win, and they just

2214
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:55,840
Speaker 1: said we can't like for Brandon Staley not to go

2215
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:57,680
Speaker 1: for any of those fourth downs, and he got a

2216
01:32:57,720 --> 01:32:58,679
Speaker 1: lot of fourth and shorts.

2217
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 4: He's notorious for that, right, and.

2218
01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 1: I know he's done it less this year.

2219
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:03,600
Speaker 6: I don't even care because he's.

2220
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:05,599
Speaker 1: Done it less this year. But they had a lot

2221
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:07,599
Speaker 1: of fourth and shorts in that game, like less than

2222
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:09,680
Speaker 1: three yards. He didn't go for a single one. But

2223
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 1: what's think it's because he's.

2224
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:14,200
Speaker 4: The only win if we win that game. He's on LinkedIn.

2225
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 4: He wasn't gonna make it like it's.

2226
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:18,599
Speaker 6: Not currently looking for work.

2227
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:21,160
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. I think if they lost, he was

2228
01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:21,799
Speaker 1: out gone.

2229
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:23,920
Speaker 4: He's still probably God, You're welcome.

2230
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 6: You know. Just one thing I want to bring up, though,

2231
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 6: is I you know, like Brandon, like Robert Craft and

2232
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:32,400
Speaker 6: Jonathan Craft are going to make this decision, and you know.

2233
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:33,960
Speaker 1: It's not going to be Fred Kurt and it's not

2234
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 1: gonna be Fred kurtr Perillo.

2235
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 6: But there's something to be said, like what do they want?

2236
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:40,679
Speaker 6: I mean, does Robert, at this stage in his career

2237
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:43,040
Speaker 6: and owning this team, want to bring in a bunch

2238
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:44,760
Speaker 6: of new guys who are going to run his team

2239
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:45,320
Speaker 6: the whole thing?

2240
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:49,439
Speaker 1: Or does he want to concern. Let's you know, we

2241
01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:52,200
Speaker 1: can because he you know, he's he's in his eighties

2242
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:53,160
Speaker 1: and and he wants to win.

2243
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:55,040
Speaker 6: You know, when you have to think like like, I mean,

2244
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:57,080
Speaker 6: I guess the philosophy is and we've we've had this talk,

2245
01:33:57,160 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 6: Paul is you know, well, it's going to be the

2246
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:03,599
Speaker 6: Patriots kind of system, but it's gonna be without the

2247
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:06,439
Speaker 6: mean old guy, you know, like without build like like

2248
01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:08,519
Speaker 6: like that's just what they want to extract. Is they

2249
01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 6: want to, you know, give it kind of a younger

2250
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 6: feel that might appeal towards the younger players and get

2251
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:15,080
Speaker 6: those guys back on board. And you know, maybe've heard

2252
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:16,840
Speaker 6: guys in locker room talk about how much they love

2253
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:19,080
Speaker 6: Gerard and lev listening to him speaking. I mean, and

2254
01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:21,280
Speaker 6: it seems like I love he would be able to

2255
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:24,519
Speaker 6: motivate guys to play. But I just I think there's

2256
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:27,679
Speaker 6: something about me that I just I struggle imagining Robert

2257
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 6: Kraft at this stage saying I'm ready to start all

2258
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:33,360
Speaker 6: over again with a whole new bunch of guys and

2259
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 6: try to figure it out with those guys. I just

2260
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 6: I think that there's gonna want he's gonna want to

2261
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:41,920
Speaker 6: have an element of continuity and a familiarity that he

2262
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:44,639
Speaker 6: doesn't lose, and you know, I don't know if that's

2263
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:47,040
Speaker 6: the best thing for the team. There's also a big

2264
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:50,559
Speaker 6: part of me that feels like this next regime is

2265
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:53,360
Speaker 6: probably gonna be a placeholder for when they actually get good.

2266
01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:55,040
Speaker 6: This is gonna be kind of a couple of years

2267
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:58,240
Speaker 6: of treading water and maybe a young head coach making

2268
01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 6: some mistakes and you know, hopefully starting to find the

2269
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:03,080
Speaker 6: talent that you get out of this draft and maybe

2270
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 6: next year's draft and developing those guys and then you know,

2271
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:07,920
Speaker 6: all this promise is kind of happening, and then you

2272
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:10,200
Speaker 6: bring in the real head coach. That's when you know,

2273
01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:11,640
Speaker 6: that's when it really takes off.

2274
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:13,840
Speaker 1: And I'm and I'm sure they're looking at it, and

2275
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:16,639
Speaker 1: they might not be wrong to do it, like girod Mayo,

2276
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:20,040
Speaker 1: Like they're probably looking at Tamiko Ryans, you know, defensive

2277
01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:23,559
Speaker 1: guy for more player stepped in immediately and has at

2278
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:28,680
Speaker 1: least put the Texans on the road to contention. Like

2279
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:31,040
Speaker 1: you know, I would say the illusion of contention. But

2280
01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 1: they're in it. It's seven and five, They're in it.

2281
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:35,639
Speaker 1: You know they're going to play meaningful games in December

2282
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:39,800
Speaker 1: for the first time since when Billy Oh yeah yeah.

2283
01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 1: So they might look at it and say, well, they

2284
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:43,960
Speaker 1: hired a defensive guy, a former player, never had never

2285
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:46,360
Speaker 1: done it before, and it's worked, so why can't it

2286
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:47,240
Speaker 1: work with Jerrod Mayo.

2287
01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:49,439
Speaker 9: I would have loved to see, Well, it's like you

2288
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:51,439
Speaker 9: can't cry or spilt book now. But like if they

2289
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:54,160
Speaker 9: decided to get rid of Bill a few games ago,

2290
01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 9: I don't know, the Saints game thirty four nothing, and

2291
01:35:57,520 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 9: then go with Jerrod Mayo, there's the season to see

2292
01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 9: what he does as an interim coach. It's too late

2293
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:03,040
Speaker 9: to do it now because you don't want to ruin

2294
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:06,320
Speaker 9: the draft pick. But it would have been nice to see, like, Okay,

2295
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:08,280
Speaker 9: let's give him a shot to be the interim head

2296
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 9: coach and see what he does.

2297
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:10,639
Speaker 6: Do you think that's fair? Like, I mean, I don't.

2298
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:11,920
Speaker 6: I don't have an opinion on it, but it just

2299
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:13,960
Speaker 6: for for you know, if you were JAIROB. Mayo, do

2300
01:36:14,040 --> 01:36:15,960
Speaker 6: you feel like that's fair to get a chance with

2301
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 6: a team that you really didn't I mean, I know,

2302
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:19,400
Speaker 6: I'm sure he has had an input into it, but

2303
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:21,599
Speaker 6: like kind of like we talked about when ZAPPI gets

2304
01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:25,480
Speaker 6: thrust in kind of crazy situation and good luck here audition.

2305
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 1: For an interim guy. It doesn't work and he doesn't

2306
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:31,479
Speaker 1: turn anything around, and he's dismissed. And even when it works,

2307
01:36:31,479 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 1: they almost never hired.

2308
01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:34,080
Speaker 6: I was going to say, how come they never? I

2309
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:35,720
Speaker 6: mean Rick, the you know, the Raiders guy.

2310
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 1: I mean there's rich besides very very hurt Christian, and

2311
01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 1: Christian knows do you think and he knows what I'm feeling.

2312
01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:53,000
Speaker 4: Do you think if they got blown out that Raiders

2313
01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:59,000
Speaker 4: game it was over for for Bill? I don't know,

2314
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:01,799
Speaker 4: like they got blown out like another thirty days against Dallas.

2315
01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:03,479
Speaker 1: They got blown out against Noorleans, but it wasn't a

2316
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:08,520
Speaker 1: blowout against the Raiders. The quarterback, Yeah.

2317
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:10,719
Speaker 6: I don't know. I mean maybe I still can't wrap

2318
01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:12,559
Speaker 6: my head around that. Josh was there for how many

2319
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:15,120
Speaker 6: games in preseason, regular season and he still beat the

2320
01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:17,400
Speaker 6: Patriots three times in the time that he was with

2321
01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:17,920
Speaker 6: the Raiders.

2322
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 1: You could make an argument that he was like on

2323
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 1: a short list of the most disastrous head coaches in

2324
01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:25,720
Speaker 1: NFL history. He didn't make it through his second year

2325
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:28,040
Speaker 1: twice and found a way to go three and oh

2326
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:29,000
Speaker 1: against the page.

2327
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:30,519
Speaker 6: And technically four and oh because he beat him with

2328
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:32,799
Speaker 6: the Broncos too, right, I mean it's a head coaches.

2329
01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:35,759
Speaker 1: The Patriots couldn't figure out a way, isn't that three?

2330
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:38,680
Speaker 6: Well the preseason game, I mean I was you know,

2331
01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:40,880
Speaker 6: I know, I know, I know, but you know, you

2332
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:42,599
Speaker 6: know how you do these things and you move things

2333
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:43,800
Speaker 6: to make it look a certain way.

2334
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:46,360
Speaker 1: Yes, I do Felger three times, Yes, Felger, I do

2335
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:49,639
Speaker 1: know four four times to beat you four.

2336
01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:51,680
Speaker 6: Times, and not even Fred's like anger towards him could

2337
01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:53,680
Speaker 6: prevent him from from doing the same thing. Here.

2338
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:56,680
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, guys, he should have seen Fred that day.

2339
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 1: He was apoplectic. He was so mad at Josh. Was

2340
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:02,519
Speaker 1: sitting on the bus and right out the window, like

2341
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:06,640
Speaker 1: Josh is like hugging everybody and like big laughs, smiles

2342
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 1: laughter in Denver and okay, when they beat us in nine,

2343
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:14,200
Speaker 1: Fred was so mad. Look at this guy, we look

2344
01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:16,479
Speaker 1: at him. We just lost the game. You should have

2345
01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:20,000
Speaker 1: some respect. And I'm like Fred, he's excited as a

2346
01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:24,639
Speaker 1: young guy. He's coming over and he's like, I can't

2347
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:25,120
Speaker 1: believe that.

2348
01:38:25,160 --> 01:38:25,719
Speaker 2: I can't.

2349
01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:28,599
Speaker 1: I've never seen Fred so mad in my life.

2350
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:31,880
Speaker 6: Tyler and Providen's got a draft question. I don't know

2351
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 6: if I don't know this one, Paul. If there is

2352
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:36,400
Speaker 6: there any rule that will prevent a college player like

2353
01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:39,719
Speaker 6: Caleb Williams from declaring, from not declaring for the draft,

2354
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:42,679
Speaker 6: but making his plan to play known, and then after

2355
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:46,120
Speaker 6: the draft, oh, signing a contract with the highest bidder.

2356
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:49,240
Speaker 1: No, you can't do that. No, because if you're not

2357
01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:51,280
Speaker 1: eligible for the draft, you're not eligible.

2358
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:53,280
Speaker 4: To be signed. Because they didn't Michael Crabtree with the

2359
01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:55,960
Speaker 4: contract a few years ago, he would have had to

2360
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:57,000
Speaker 4: go back into the draft.

2361
01:38:57,560 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he can do that, you can do he doesn't

2362
01:39:00,080 --> 01:39:02,640
Speaker 1: have to come out. But if you're not eligible for

2363
01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:05,640
Speaker 1: the draft, you're not eligible to be signed. That's a

2364
01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:08,800
Speaker 1: whole process. Do you understand what I'm saying?

2365
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:10,480
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2366
01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:14,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, Does he have the opportunity to, like say.

2367
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:17,280
Speaker 6: I don't want to go to Yes, but that's just

2368
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:18,880
Speaker 6: is that just a warning shot?

2369
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:21,880
Speaker 1: Though John always Didli Manning did it. Yeah. I would

2370
01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:24,160
Speaker 1: take them and say, all right, we're not what he's

2371
01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:24,479
Speaker 1: gonna do.

2372
01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:26,200
Speaker 6: Well, I saw the teams that he named like that

2373
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:28,400
Speaker 6: he wanted to play for. I don't know what it

2374
01:39:28,520 --> 01:39:30,760
Speaker 6: was like his like five favorite teams as a kid

2375
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:32,800
Speaker 6: like and there was no rhyme or reason to like

2376
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:34,920
Speaker 6: why he wanted to see all these like, oh he

2377
01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:37,479
Speaker 6: said this, he said that, but like it's sources, it's

2378
01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:39,200
Speaker 6: always sources, said he said this, Like.

2379
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:41,639
Speaker 1: I got an argument with Fred in the post game show.

2380
01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:45,320
Speaker 1: It's his father is a potential problem that would worry.

2381
01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:47,760
Speaker 4: Like Friday Night Lights with Michael B. Jordan's bad Did

2382
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:48,400
Speaker 4: he even make it that.

2383
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:51,880
Speaker 1: Far in the show, Michael, Did I make it that far?

2384
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:52,160
Speaker 10: Yeah?

2385
01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:52,920
Speaker 4: Did you watch the show?

2386
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:55,880
Speaker 1: I watched every episode that the show was phenomenous.

2387
01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:57,240
Speaker 4: Best show. Yeah, I got to watch.

2388
01:39:57,280 --> 01:39:59,360
Speaker 1: Michael B. Jordan was as good as a smash though

2389
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:02,840
Speaker 1: the Smash was better than Michael B. Joris, much better

2390
01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:03,320
Speaker 1: running back.

2391
01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:05,200
Speaker 4: Do you want my idea topic here?

2392
01:40:05,640 --> 01:40:06,559
Speaker 1: This is what we're here for.

2393
01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:09,680
Speaker 4: Friday night Lights. We got Friday Night Lights. But it's

2394
01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:12,960
Speaker 4: Minnesota high school hockey. They need to make that dude,

2395
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:13,559
Speaker 4: You would.

2396
01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:15,840
Speaker 6: Like that, dude, I I almost I tried to. Well,

2397
01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:18,519
Speaker 6: there's a book about Minnesota high school hockey. I forget

2398
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:19,800
Speaker 6: what the title is out the top of my head.

2399
01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 6: But but some producers are trying to make a movie

2400
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:23,760
Speaker 6: into it, and so I had like a meeting about

2401
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:25,599
Speaker 6: like trying it the same thing though it's a Minnesota

2402
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:28,160
Speaker 6: high school hockey. But I'm a mask guy. I can't.

2403
01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:28,840
Speaker 6: I can't, I can't.

2404
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:30,840
Speaker 4: I want I want to do prep school hockey. That's

2405
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:31,799
Speaker 4: what you said, school.

2406
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:32,799
Speaker 1: Prep school hockey.

2407
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:34,800
Speaker 6: Well, with all these new hockey schools that are coming

2408
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:39,120
Speaker 6: out now, like they're just academy rich like Charles, like

2409
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:41,880
Speaker 6: Mattinyon went under. But like those schools now are they're

2410
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:45,120
Speaker 6: like hockey academies. They're not even you know, real schools anymore.

2411
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:46,439
Speaker 6: They're just people go to play hockey.

2412
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:48,680
Speaker 1: So is that like Mount Saint Charles is not a

2413
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:49,439
Speaker 1: school anymore.

2414
01:40:49,479 --> 01:40:52,440
Speaker 6: It's just still a school. But I think their primary

2415
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:56,519
Speaker 6: img of ice focus hockey team. They have like seven

2416
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:59,840
Speaker 6: teams or something crazy like that. I just don't know

2417
01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:01,519
Speaker 6: what the end of it all is. Like it's just

2418
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:03,400
Speaker 6: like what you're you're gonna put all this time and

2419
01:41:03,439 --> 01:41:05,040
Speaker 6: money into it. Your kid's gonna be a twenty two

2420
01:41:05,120 --> 01:41:07,840
Speaker 6: year old freshman at like Trinity, like you know, like

2421
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:12,240
Speaker 6: check twenty five, like and what like what what to

2422
01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 6: what end are you getting? I don't know, I don't

2423
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:16,960
Speaker 6: get it. I just it's it's totally different.

2424
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:19,240
Speaker 1: Quinnipiac National title. So who's to argue?

2425
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:23,120
Speaker 6: I saw some I saw some some recruits there for Northeast.

2426
01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:24,839
Speaker 6: They did you some signings?

2427
01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:28,800
Speaker 1: Did I miss that? I'm mad? If you're out, I'm

2428
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:29,760
Speaker 1: not out. I'm just mad.

2429
01:41:30,320 --> 01:41:32,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, speed speed ways in and just says I think

2430
01:41:32,360 --> 01:41:35,320
Speaker 6: there's a zero point zero chance the Crafts don't keep

2431
01:41:35,320 --> 01:41:37,760
Speaker 6: Mayo on the staff in what capacity I'm not sure,

2432
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:40,320
Speaker 6: but odds are a promotion of some sort. What constraints

2433
01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 6: does that create when rebuilding the coaching staff? Too many

2434
01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:44,519
Speaker 6: in my honest opinion.

2435
01:41:44,880 --> 01:41:47,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if it's not head coach, he's not

2436
01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:47,760
Speaker 1: coming back.

2437
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:49,600
Speaker 9: Yeah you think you don't think you would stay for

2438
01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:51,360
Speaker 9: DC because he's not actually the DC.

2439
01:41:51,680 --> 01:41:53,519
Speaker 1: He's not the head coach. I don't think he's going

2440
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:54,240
Speaker 1: to have the option.

2441
01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:55,839
Speaker 6: Right, you can't hire the DC.

2442
01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:59,120
Speaker 1: Unless I mean, I'm not saying zero point zero like

2443
01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:01,719
Speaker 1: maybe they high Mike do so Mike Dusau really wants

2444
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:05,000
Speaker 1: Gerrod Mayo. Other teams that just want Mayo as well,

2445
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:06,639
Speaker 1: But like, I don't know why you would stay if

2446
01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:09,600
Speaker 1: you felt like, right, well, if this whole thing that

2447
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:12,680
Speaker 1: we've been sold on is that they convinced him to

2448
01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:15,439
Speaker 1: stay last year because he's the guy in waiting, and

2449
01:42:15,479 --> 01:42:17,320
Speaker 1: then you make a move and you don't. I mean

2450
01:42:17,360 --> 01:42:18,920
Speaker 1: I would if I were Gerard, I would leave.

2451
01:42:18,920 --> 01:42:20,360
Speaker 4: It's also before we went to and ten.

2452
01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:22,800
Speaker 6: But it just makes me wonder, like, really, what was

2453
01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:24,599
Speaker 6: going on last year with the whole because I mean

2454
01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:26,280
Speaker 6: I was reviewing some of the stuff we did in

2455
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:28,080
Speaker 6: the off season last year where you had, you know,

2456
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:30,400
Speaker 6: it was like a big deal about Mayo getting a

2457
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 6: contract extension and we were kind of trumpeting that, and

2458
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:35,240
Speaker 6: you know, we get to this point now and if

2459
01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:37,960
Speaker 6: I mean, like logically, and I mean I think everybody

2460
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:41,280
Speaker 6: realizes that it seems like, well, they love Mayo, they

2461
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:43,760
Speaker 6: wanted to keep him around, like he's got to be

2462
01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:46,559
Speaker 6: the clubhouse favorite right now, to be to be that guy.

2463
01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:49,720
Speaker 6: But there's no other real way to consider unless you said,

2464
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:51,519
Speaker 6: unless the guy who wrote and said, you know the

2465
01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:53,559
Speaker 6: Billy O thing where it's Billy Oh, and you know,

2466
01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:56,040
Speaker 6: we'll just kind of shift everybody a little bit. But

2467
01:42:57,240 --> 01:42:58,880
Speaker 6: I don't know, It's just it's hard to see him

2468
01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:01,080
Speaker 6: staying unless he's the head which because otherwise the new

2469
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:02,960
Speaker 6: head coaching is going to be up to him, right

2470
01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:04,519
Speaker 6: or GM I wanted.

2471
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:05,920
Speaker 4: I want GM, That's what I want.

2472
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:07,559
Speaker 6: I just wanted what a new G. What about a

2473
01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:07,960
Speaker 6: new GM?

2474
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:09,719
Speaker 5: I want a GM would be great.

2475
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:11,679
Speaker 4: I want the San Francisco assistant guy.

2476
01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:14,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, just with with Mayo Adam Peters, Yeah, just like

2477
01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:17,160
Speaker 6: come on, and then maybe a new offensive coordinator.

2478
01:43:17,240 --> 01:43:19,040
Speaker 4: I just want somebody to pick the players for US

2479
01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:19,760
Speaker 4: de Marcus.

2480
01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:22,280
Speaker 1: Covington Yeah, and I would. And I wouldn't be opposed

2481
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:24,519
Speaker 1: to Billy oh staying if he wanted to, but I

2482
01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:26,479
Speaker 1: would put that in a similar situation to matter that

2483
01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:30,479
Speaker 1: we were just talking about. If O'Brien doesn't get the job,

2484
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:32,559
Speaker 1: he probably wants to go somewhere else to get a job.

2485
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:35,719
Speaker 6: I I still don't know how I feel about O'Brien,

2486
01:43:35,800 --> 01:43:39,519
Speaker 6: Like I like my immediate reaction is like, I don't

2487
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:41,240
Speaker 6: really feel it's his fault.

2488
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:43,160
Speaker 1: I can't argue with the results though. It's the worst

2489
01:43:43,160 --> 01:43:46,280
Speaker 1: offensive football and he's the offensive so I get that.

2490
01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:48,160
Speaker 6: I think part of it is just still I'm living

2491
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:50,920
Speaker 6: off of that first press conference moment when he came

2492
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:53,320
Speaker 6: in down there in the press room and last spring

2493
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:55,600
Speaker 6: and it was like, oh, thank god, we got it,

2494
01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:58,080
Speaker 6: like a you know, real offensive adult back in the room,

2495
01:43:58,120 --> 01:44:00,200
Speaker 6: knows what he wants, knows what he's gonna do. We're

2496
01:44:00,240 --> 01:44:02,360
Speaker 6: going to be fine, you know, at the very least,

2497
01:44:02,360 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 6: this will be an average offense. He'll get He'll get

2498
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:06,640
Speaker 6: Mac back on track in three months.

2499
01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:08,040
Speaker 2: Nope.

2500
01:44:08,840 --> 01:44:10,920
Speaker 1: So what about Saracen? What you think of him as

2501
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:11,479
Speaker 1: a quarterback?

2502
01:44:11,479 --> 01:44:14,200
Speaker 4: A great guy, the great guy, gretty guy, gritty.

2503
01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:17,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, got the most out of his better than yeah. Yeah,

2504
01:44:18,200 --> 01:44:20,479
Speaker 1: got the most out of his ability, playing well above

2505
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:21,320
Speaker 1: the rim with Amy t.

2506
01:44:21,280 --> 01:44:23,800
Speaker 6: Who's the long haired who's the long haired? Wild card kid?

2507
01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:24,559
Speaker 1: Riggins?

2508
01:44:24,720 --> 01:44:25,120
Speaker 6: Riggins?

2509
01:44:25,240 --> 01:44:25,360
Speaker 4: Right?

2510
01:44:26,160 --> 01:44:26,280
Speaker 1: Right?

2511
01:44:26,360 --> 01:44:28,320
Speaker 6: I watched a few episodes. Do you watch any of this? Now,

2512
01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:29,760
Speaker 6: this isn't a lot there was there.

2513
01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:32,000
Speaker 4: Was Riggins need the right coach, he would have went

2514
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:32,679
Speaker 4: to the league.

2515
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:35,080
Speaker 6: And how many seasons did did.

2516
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:35,600
Speaker 4: This series go?

2517
01:44:36,479 --> 01:44:36,799
Speaker 6: Five?

2518
01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:40,280
Speaker 4: But it was during the writers strike so that you

2519
01:44:40,280 --> 01:44:42,400
Speaker 4: could like tell there's some flaws. In season two, all.

2520
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:44,559
Speaker 6: Of a sudden, the kids got looked like two years older.

2521
01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then like people are getting murdered and like

2522
01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:47,679
Speaker 4: it's crazy.

2523
01:44:47,800 --> 01:44:49,479
Speaker 6: But were the same kids on the team, like or

2524
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:52,559
Speaker 6: was there like a freshman class and they rotated over?

2525
01:44:52,600 --> 01:44:54,600
Speaker 4: Ashman class comes through and that I won't spoil it,

2526
01:44:54,720 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 4: but no, no.

2527
01:44:55,240 --> 01:44:55,679
Speaker 6: It's okay.

2528
01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:59,040
Speaker 1: It is like fifteen years old at this point. Spoiler.

2529
01:44:59,080 --> 01:45:02,679
Speaker 4: I think shoul watching. So you have your initial class

2530
01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:05,920
Speaker 4: and then it turns out the town it's a fictional town.

2531
01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:09,599
Speaker 4: There's the east side of town that happens like that's

2532
01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:10,439
Speaker 4: the last two seasons.

2533
01:45:10,520 --> 01:45:12,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so he has to go with the other

2534
01:45:12,520 --> 01:45:13,360
Speaker 1: like East Dylan.

2535
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:15,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then the school you were rooting for is

2536
01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:16,599
Speaker 4: now like the bad.

2537
01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:18,640
Speaker 1: Guys, right, they turned into the bad guys because they

2538
01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:21,000
Speaker 1: they kicked coach Taylor out.

2539
01:45:21,200 --> 01:45:23,360
Speaker 6: By the way, I love that's pretty good. I mean

2540
01:45:23,400 --> 01:45:25,599
Speaker 6: that's just from like a hey, we're running out of steam.

2541
01:45:25,640 --> 01:45:27,320
Speaker 6: How can we spice this up here? Is because I

2542
01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:29,400
Speaker 6: mean all TV series dramas get it's.

2543
01:45:29,280 --> 01:45:32,400
Speaker 4: Just funny to see, like the actor comes in, Luke Cafferty.

2544
01:45:32,360 --> 01:45:35,720
Speaker 1: By far the third worst third, you know, behind Michael B.

2545
01:45:35,880 --> 01:45:39,360
Speaker 1: Jordan's and Smash, you know, but a good, solid player nonetheless.

2546
01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:42,160
Speaker 1: But then he's like, you know, he's having some physical

2547
01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:43,599
Speaker 1: issues and stuff.

2548
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:45,320
Speaker 6: It's like, is this your law and Arto Paul you

2549
01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:46,679
Speaker 6: seem like you you love the show.

2550
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:48,200
Speaker 4: Oh, it's great.

2551
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:51,160
Speaker 6: I've watched it. I've watched probably like the first three

2552
01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:52,200
Speaker 6: four episodes and whatever.

2553
01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:55,400
Speaker 4: Definitely watched every episode, the best of scene, the old

2554
01:45:55,479 --> 01:45:58,479
Speaker 4: actors who like Jesse Plevens, he's in it. I remember

2555
01:45:58,600 --> 01:45:59,360
Speaker 4: Michael B. Jordan.

2556
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:02,240
Speaker 1: I didn't. I don't really know if Jesse Plemons and

2557
01:46:02,280 --> 01:46:03,080
Speaker 1: anything else.

2558
01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:05,880
Speaker 4: He's He's in Kill as a Flower Moon Game. I

2559
01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:08,640
Speaker 4: can go on for a while. What else I don't know.

2560
01:46:08,720 --> 01:46:09,439
Speaker 4: He's too many movies.

2561
01:46:09,479 --> 01:46:11,640
Speaker 1: Okay, so so far it just sounds like things that

2562
01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:13,920
Speaker 1: I haven't seen. So that's why I didn't know. But

2563
01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:17,280
Speaker 1: Minka Kelly, a young Minka Kelly, No, I'm familiar.

2564
01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:17,880
Speaker 5: Are you?

2565
01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:23,960
Speaker 1: Lila garrety was throwing high heat. Uh that was the

2566
01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:28,479
Speaker 1: other one. But Jesse Plemons with the tyra like you said,

2567
01:46:28,520 --> 01:46:29,479
Speaker 1: it was kind of like flaws in.

2568
01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:32,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, what about Buddy Garrett as GM we could do something.

2569
01:46:32,600 --> 01:46:36,240
Speaker 1: Buddy Garretty was a good, solid, crooked booster with a

2570
01:46:36,280 --> 01:46:36,679
Speaker 1: good heart.

2571
01:46:36,840 --> 01:46:39,200
Speaker 6: Okay, so I think we got your next you halftime,

2572
01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:41,360
Speaker 6: your next Pew say this is the Pew Happen Show.

2573
01:46:41,360 --> 01:46:44,519
Speaker 1: You gotta get Paul on. We're gonna happy Friday night lights,

2574
01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:47,800
Speaker 1: Breaking Bad, like, come on, he didn't see Breaking Bad?

2575
01:46:48,120 --> 01:46:50,400
Speaker 1: Like Mike, have any idea what that.

2576
01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:53,719
Speaker 4: Is black black man, at least I know what Black Mass.

2577
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:54,760
Speaker 1: I do remember him in.

2578
01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:55,960
Speaker 4: Black Mass American Maid.

2579
01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:58,080
Speaker 1: I never heard of that. I do remember him in

2580
01:46:58,120 --> 01:46:59,559
Speaker 1: Black Mass Battleship Vice.

2581
01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:03,120
Speaker 4: Seriously, never I'll get you on the halftime show.

2582
01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:06,920
Speaker 1: But we could do Mike's Mad at Me. But we

2583
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:09,120
Speaker 1: could do definitely thirty five minute.

2584
01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:11,760
Speaker 6: Well, Christian did write in and just said, not a

2585
01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:13,560
Speaker 6: nice friend you have there, Paul, shame on you do

2586
01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:16,000
Speaker 6: so we you know he wrote in about my I'm

2587
01:47:16,040 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 6: sorry for the Italians there. Yeah, to mean to hurt

2588
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:23,519
Speaker 6: your feelings, very very hurt. Bart from Poland rights in

2589
01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:25,880
Speaker 6: Hey guys. On the pregame show, Paul said, in response

2590
01:47:25,960 --> 01:47:26,960
Speaker 6: to my email of time.

2591
01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:30,639
Speaker 1: Nothing taking nothing good starts with that line taking somebody's

2592
01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:31,559
Speaker 1: coming at you with receipts.

2593
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:34,080
Speaker 6: Taking Daniels in the top three, that he would be

2594
01:47:34,160 --> 01:47:36,760
Speaker 6: cautious about a player jumping twenty to thirty spots after

2595
01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:39,400
Speaker 6: the season is over. And I agree with that. However,

2596
01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:41,720
Speaker 6: I don't think it applies here. While Daniels wasn't a

2597
01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:44,240
Speaker 6: first rounder before the season, now Daniels is already a

2598
01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:47,240
Speaker 6: consensus top ten to fifteen pick by most draft experts.

2599
01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:52,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, fifteen, we're talking about taking him at two. Yeah,

2600
01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:56,960
Speaker 1: I agree with I agree with his premise exactly, and

2601
01:47:57,080 --> 01:48:01,160
Speaker 1: I do. I do think it's different. What really And Mike,

2602
01:48:01,240 --> 01:48:02,800
Speaker 1: you can back me up on this because you and

2603
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:05,200
Speaker 1: I did argue a little bit about this at the time.

2604
01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:06,320
Speaker 9: Right.

2605
01:48:06,920 --> 01:48:10,640
Speaker 1: What really troubled me about mac Jones was he did

2606
01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:15,840
Speaker 1: not rise now at this time of the football season.

2607
01:48:16,160 --> 01:48:18,560
Speaker 1: Mac Jones wasn't shooting up the draft boards to the

2608
01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:22,800
Speaker 1: first round. Yeah, it was after the season. Those are

2609
01:48:22,840 --> 01:48:26,360
Speaker 1: the guys that worry me that something happens between February

2610
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:29,360
Speaker 1: first and April thirtieth that causes a guy to go

2611
01:48:29,439 --> 01:48:31,200
Speaker 1: from a third round pick to the middle of the

2612
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:34,800
Speaker 1: first round. Those guys worry me. And that always worried

2613
01:48:34,840 --> 01:48:37,960
Speaker 1: me about mac Jones. Is he just interviewing great? Everybody

2614
01:48:38,120 --> 01:48:38,559
Speaker 1: likes the guy?

2615
01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:39,040
Speaker 9: Like?

2616
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:41,320
Speaker 1: Is that all this is about? Jayden Daniels, to the

2617
01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:45,120
Speaker 1: emailer's credit, maybe didn't start the season as a first

2618
01:48:45,200 --> 01:48:47,280
Speaker 1: round pick, but he's played his way into being a

2619
01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:49,960
Speaker 1: first round pick. That worried me about Zach Wilson, by

2620
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:52,719
Speaker 1: the way, too. Yeah, I didn't remember anybody talking about

2621
01:48:52,800 --> 01:48:55,280
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson in the first round until you know that

2622
01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:56,080
Speaker 1: season was over.

2623
01:48:57,160 --> 01:49:02,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, just Ben keeping you guys correct. He said Michael B.

2624
01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:03,880
Speaker 6: Jordan was a QB, not a running back.

2625
01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:07,719
Speaker 1: I think I may have said that that is correct.

2626
01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:10,040
Speaker 1: I will I will own that. I will own that

2627
01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:12,719
Speaker 1: it wasn't his first practice. Why can I not remember

2628
01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:16,400
Speaker 1: what his name was? Oh, I can't remember his name.

2629
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:19,240
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna get that real quick. It's driving

2630
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:19,559
Speaker 4: me crazy.

2631
01:49:19,680 --> 01:49:21,439
Speaker 6: Is it safe to say with this year's quarterbacks?

2632
01:49:21,479 --> 01:49:23,720
Speaker 1: This is really getting mad? And we're not talking Lauren

2633
01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:25,280
Speaker 1: Orders completely?

2634
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:28,839
Speaker 6: Is it safe to say, though, that this year's quarterback

2635
01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:34,160
Speaker 6: class there isn't really a mac Jones type lacking athleticism? Like,

2636
01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:37,960
Speaker 6: are all these guys at least have pretty good athleticism.

2637
01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:39,240
Speaker 6: They can talk and run a little bit.

2638
01:49:40,160 --> 01:49:42,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know of any of them that don't

2639
01:49:42,439 --> 01:49:45,599
Speaker 1: have any ability to make a play with their legs.

2640
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:49,000
Speaker 5: I feel Notre Dame's quarterbacks.

2641
01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:53,120
Speaker 6: Are Yeah, well you would know say it doesn't have

2642
01:49:53,200 --> 01:49:55,880
Speaker 6: any I mean, wait, aren't you gonna aren't you gonna

2643
01:49:55,880 --> 01:49:57,360
Speaker 6: be on the offensive tackle though? Isn't that going to

2644
01:49:57,400 --> 01:49:58,200
Speaker 6: be your Yeah?

2645
01:49:58,600 --> 01:50:01,160
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, but I feel like I feel like they

2646
01:50:01,240 --> 01:50:04,919
Speaker 9: always have a great offensive line and a pocket passing quarterback.

2647
01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:08,880
Speaker 9: They really The last one that was mobile was like

2648
01:50:10,040 --> 01:50:12,920
Speaker 9: DeShawn which he didn't last long ago. I remember him, yeah,

2649
01:50:13,120 --> 01:50:16,000
Speaker 9: and then yeah, he didn't last he didn't last long.

2650
01:50:16,360 --> 01:50:19,640
Speaker 9: And then and then Brandan Winbush who he ended up

2651
01:50:19,640 --> 01:50:20,200
Speaker 9: transferring to.

2652
01:50:20,680 --> 01:50:23,360
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna say anything like overlly disrespectful, but

2653
01:50:23,400 --> 01:50:24,519
Speaker 1: that's why you haven't been relevant.

2654
01:50:26,360 --> 01:50:29,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, they always have a pocket passer, a great offensive line, like,

2655
01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:31,320
Speaker 9: but their quarterbacks don't pan out.

2656
01:50:32,160 --> 01:50:33,479
Speaker 6: I think you're just gonna run out there with your

2657
01:50:33,520 --> 01:50:34,559
Speaker 6: helmets shining and the line.

2658
01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:37,320
Speaker 1: Sam Hartman will be that guy that people will talk

2659
01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:39,759
Speaker 1: themselves into him. You know, a lot of experience, started,

2660
01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:41,639
Speaker 1: a million games, a lot of production.

2661
01:50:42,080 --> 01:50:42,759
Speaker 4: Pocket passer.

2662
01:50:42,920 --> 01:50:45,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they just good beard, strong beard.

2663
01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:48,920
Speaker 6: Chris Cassidy uh from here in art. He weighs and says,

2664
01:50:49,040 --> 01:50:51,519
Speaker 6: Marmon Harrison and Bonnix. Later, I will stand by.

2665
01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:53,720
Speaker 4: Bone nexs has been playing with the Obama administration.

2666
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:56,880
Speaker 1: I have I gotta tell you. I will say I

2667
01:50:56,960 --> 01:50:58,120
Speaker 1: am out on Bonix.

2668
01:50:59,479 --> 01:51:01,880
Speaker 9: It would be cool to get Marvin Harrison and then

2669
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:06,880
Speaker 9: getting no and then getting jaded like that would be

2670
01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:09,200
Speaker 9: great if you could trade up and get him late

2671
01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:13,160
Speaker 9: first round but still get Marvin in that first pick.

2672
01:51:13,320 --> 01:51:15,400
Speaker 4: You treat the mock draft simulator like mad and you

2673
01:51:15,479 --> 01:51:16,639
Speaker 4: can get Caleb and Marvin.

2674
01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:19,800
Speaker 1: But that's what people do. That's what people do on Twitter. Yeah,

2675
01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:23,160
Speaker 1: somehow they just you know, the guy I want is

2676
01:51:23,200 --> 01:51:26,240
Speaker 1: available every pick, like I got I don't know if

2677
01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:27,360
Speaker 1: you know, but I got Jaden Daniels.

2678
01:51:27,400 --> 01:51:30,960
Speaker 4: And the thing is like that, the top prospects of

2679
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:33,519
Speaker 4: the receivers are so good. Like obviously, like we said earlier,

2680
01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:35,160
Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison is the top guy, but if you get

2681
01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:37,080
Speaker 4: a quarterback, you can maybe get you know, with that

2682
01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:39,120
Speaker 4: the second which is pretty much the first, you can

2683
01:51:39,200 --> 01:51:40,799
Speaker 4: move up and maybe get one of those other holes.

2684
01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:42,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean do it. I mean I don't know

2685
01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:44,439
Speaker 1: how high these guys are going to go. I don't

2686
01:51:44,600 --> 01:51:47,400
Speaker 1: do the mock draft stuff, certainly not yet, but I

2687
01:51:47,439 --> 01:51:52,080
Speaker 1: won't ever do it. Why not take a quarterback, you know,

2688
01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:55,679
Speaker 1: take Jayden Daniels, you know, wherever in the top five,

2689
01:51:56,160 --> 01:51:57,599
Speaker 1: and then get maliite neighbors later.

2690
01:51:58,680 --> 01:52:00,280
Speaker 4: It's going to happen to it happened this year. It's

2691
01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:02,639
Speaker 4: going to be receiver, receiver, receiver, it happens a Flowers,

2692
01:52:02,720 --> 01:52:05,200
Speaker 4: Quintin Johnson on all the other two. But you know

2693
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:05,880
Speaker 4: that's going to happen.

2694
01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:08,200
Speaker 6: Yes, maybe yeah, Well let me let me ask you

2695
01:52:08,240 --> 01:52:10,280
Speaker 6: guys this this maybe last question here at some I've

2696
01:52:10,320 --> 01:52:12,280
Speaker 6: just been thinking about looking at next year's depth chart.

2697
01:52:12,360 --> 01:52:16,080
Speaker 6: You have DeVante Parker is under contract, Juju Smith Schuster

2698
01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:19,040
Speaker 6: is under contract to Mario Douglas under contract.

2699
01:52:19,120 --> 01:52:19,599
Speaker 5: That's the question.

2700
01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:22,479
Speaker 6: Wait for it, Wait for it. Taekwon Thornton is under contract.

2701
01:52:22,560 --> 01:52:25,720
Speaker 6: So four guys. Kendrick Bourne is a free agent. How

2702
01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:29,360
Speaker 6: would you approach this group this offseason? Because you're spending

2703
01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:30,960
Speaker 6: a lot of money. Now, you certainly could cut. You

2704
01:52:31,000 --> 01:52:32,920
Speaker 6: could cut Juji, you could cut DeVante Parker. I mean

2705
01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:35,559
Speaker 6: they've shown an appetite to give DeVante Parker a couple

2706
01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:38,600
Speaker 6: contracts now, So how would you approach it? Would you

2707
01:52:38,720 --> 01:52:41,439
Speaker 6: go into free agency and spend more money? Would you

2708
01:52:41,520 --> 01:52:43,760
Speaker 6: cut those guys, eat the eat the dead money and

2709
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:46,519
Speaker 6: try to rebuild it, you know, through free agency? Would

2710
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:48,599
Speaker 6: you just say, let's bring those guys back and draft

2711
01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:50,640
Speaker 6: a couple guys and try to incorporate them in a

2712
01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:53,439
Speaker 6: manageable salary, Like how would you kind of approach it?

2713
01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:55,599
Speaker 6: Knowing that and then Kendrick Bourne's out there too. Would

2714
01:52:55,600 --> 01:52:56,840
Speaker 6: you resign Kendrick Bourne.

2715
01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:58,720
Speaker 5: Kenrick the rest of them?

2716
01:52:58,840 --> 01:53:01,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you can trade them, awesome, If not, smell you.

2717
01:53:01,640 --> 01:53:04,360
Speaker 6: So sign Kendrick Bourne to a free agency deal, your deal.

2718
01:53:05,400 --> 01:53:06,240
Speaker 1: I have no interest in that.

2719
01:53:06,439 --> 01:53:08,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just saying because I think that's he's been here,

2720
01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:10,280
Speaker 4: he knows it, and like he's off the ACL so

2721
01:53:10,320 --> 01:53:10,800
Speaker 4: you can get him.

2722
01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:12,719
Speaker 1: But what does he know You're going to be running

2723
01:53:12,760 --> 01:53:14,360
Speaker 1: something totally different than when you're running.

2724
01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:16,360
Speaker 4: Well, I think we're losing. We're losing down some vets

2725
01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:18,400
Speaker 4: and you need a vet in a lot.

2726
01:53:18,520 --> 01:53:22,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, my my plan would be to go heavy in

2727
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:24,040
Speaker 1: free agency for somebody and.

2728
01:53:24,680 --> 01:53:28,080
Speaker 6: One guy, like get a big dog, Mike, get Mike Evans, you.

2729
01:53:28,120 --> 01:53:31,599
Speaker 1: Know, Mike Evans, t Higgins. Now t Higgins is probably

2730
01:53:31,680 --> 01:53:33,920
Speaker 1: going to be too much for them, but I would

2731
01:53:33,960 --> 01:53:36,439
Speaker 1: go heavy for one of those guys, and then that

2732
01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:39,160
Speaker 1: takes the pressure off and and and yeah, I know

2733
01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:41,519
Speaker 1: that like Juju's cap hit if they cut him is

2734
01:53:41,560 --> 01:53:43,680
Speaker 1: like over twelve million, so he's probably not going to

2735
01:53:43,720 --> 01:53:45,960
Speaker 1: get cut. But you could probably figure out a way

2736
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:47,880
Speaker 1: to get rid of one of those guys somehow, that's

2737
01:53:47,960 --> 01:53:49,920
Speaker 1: my question. And then you have to draft. Some I

2738
01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:53,160
Speaker 1: do think there's always good receivers that you can get

2739
01:53:53,200 --> 01:53:54,800
Speaker 1: on Day two. So if you don't, I mean, I

2740
01:53:54,880 --> 01:53:58,360
Speaker 1: get it. Tackles a huge need. Quarterbacks a huge need. Yeah,

2741
01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:00,400
Speaker 1: wide receiver is a huge need. But you can't get

2742
01:54:00,439 --> 01:54:03,360
Speaker 1: them all in the first round, so maybe you wait

2743
01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:06,040
Speaker 1: for Day two and get a good receiver instead of

2744
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:06,920
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison the June.

2745
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:08,840
Speaker 6: That's just what I'm struggling with is I just feel

2746
01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:11,519
Speaker 6: like their finances at the position are completely upside down

2747
01:54:11,600 --> 01:54:13,800
Speaker 6: right now, and I just you know, you need you

2748
01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:15,880
Speaker 6: need better players for sure, but I just there's no

2749
01:54:16,040 --> 01:54:19,120
Speaker 6: easy way to kind of wave a wand and get

2750
01:54:19,200 --> 01:54:21,000
Speaker 6: rid of the guys you don't want with dead money

2751
01:54:21,040 --> 01:54:22,120
Speaker 6: and bring in the new guys you.

2752
01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:24,760
Speaker 1: Do And by the way, you could have zero tight

2753
01:54:24,920 --> 01:54:25,280
Speaker 1: ends too.

2754
01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:25,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2755
01:54:26,120 --> 01:54:28,400
Speaker 9: So it's also like, how did you not learn anything

2756
01:54:28,439 --> 01:54:31,479
Speaker 9: from John new and Nelson Agalore in that group, and

2757
01:54:31,600 --> 01:54:33,440
Speaker 9: then you spend money on DeVante Parker.

2758
01:54:33,200 --> 01:54:36,720
Speaker 5: Who's done nothing, and you do who like isn't able

2759
01:54:36,760 --> 01:54:37,480
Speaker 5: to do what he used to do.

2760
01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:38,280
Speaker 1: Those are I'm.

2761
01:54:38,160 --> 01:54:41,160
Speaker 6: Confused concerning They're concerning. I mean, it's it's I mean,

2762
01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:44,080
Speaker 6: then those are you know, recent pieces that they I mean, they.

2763
01:54:44,320 --> 01:54:46,320
Speaker 1: You have to hope that you're gonna, you know, when

2764
01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:49,840
Speaker 1: you change this, that the change and approach is going

2765
01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:52,960
Speaker 1: to help those guys be bigger factors, because you can't

2766
01:54:53,080 --> 01:54:57,560
Speaker 1: just have you can't just change the receivers. You know,

2767
01:54:57,640 --> 01:54:59,520
Speaker 1: you can't bring in t Higgins and think, well, what's

2768
01:54:59,560 --> 01:55:01,840
Speaker 1: going to prove Higgins from being like Kendrick born in

2769
01:55:02,440 --> 01:55:04,800
Speaker 1: Nelson Agaloor and just be you know, like, no, you

2770
01:55:04,920 --> 01:55:07,320
Speaker 1: got to do something to make sure that they enemy assimilarly.

2771
01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:09,440
Speaker 6: Isn't it fair to say that that the Patriots had

2772
01:55:09,520 --> 01:55:11,680
Speaker 6: have had way more interest in a guy like Devonte

2773
01:55:11,720 --> 01:55:13,200
Speaker 6: Parker than probably any other team in the league.

2774
01:55:13,240 --> 01:55:13,400
Speaker 10: Is there?

2775
01:55:13,480 --> 01:55:16,200
Speaker 6: Is it really reasonable to believe that a coach, a

2776
01:55:16,240 --> 01:55:18,000
Speaker 6: new coach would come in here and have a use

2777
01:55:18,080 --> 01:55:20,040
Speaker 6: for him, Like I just I struggled to see a

2778
01:55:20,120 --> 01:55:22,320
Speaker 6: new coach coming in and saying this is a this

2779
01:55:22,440 --> 01:55:23,880
Speaker 6: is a guy we need to keep that we need

2780
01:55:23,920 --> 01:55:24,800
Speaker 6: to keep this contested.

2781
01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:27,040
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you that would be a fear because

2782
01:55:27,240 --> 01:55:29,040
Speaker 1: if you get rid of both of those guys, and

2783
01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:33,000
Speaker 1: now the millions and millions of dollars in cast space

2784
01:55:33,080 --> 01:55:36,720
Speaker 1: and you spend you know, twenty million of them is

2785
01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:38,880
Speaker 1: dead money on two receivers that aren't on your team.

2786
01:55:40,280 --> 01:55:41,000
Speaker 1: That's that's hard.

2787
01:55:41,080 --> 01:55:43,160
Speaker 9: I'm hoping whoever it is comes in and is like,

2788
01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:46,200
Speaker 9: not not as dramatic as coach Prime, but comes in

2789
01:55:46,320 --> 01:55:49,400
Speaker 9: and is like, this roster sucks and we might have

2790
01:55:49,480 --> 01:55:52,000
Speaker 9: to bite a few million, but like we cannot.

2791
01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:52,320
Speaker 5: Keep all of them.

2792
01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:54,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, would you resend Hunter Henry?

2793
01:55:55,200 --> 01:55:55,880
Speaker 4: Yeah? I would.

2794
01:55:56,840 --> 01:55:58,480
Speaker 6: It depends what the price is, to be honest, But

2795
01:55:58,600 --> 01:56:01,040
Speaker 6: would Redo No, Well, how would you approach to the

2796
01:56:01,080 --> 01:56:01,800
Speaker 6: tight end position?

2797
01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:07,160
Speaker 1: Then look, keep Barrel, but I wouldn't be opposed to

2798
01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:10,080
Speaker 1: keeping him as like tight end. But I would probably

2799
01:56:10,120 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 1: try to draft the guy, maybe sign somebody in free

2800
01:56:12,520 --> 01:56:15,320
Speaker 1: agency that's you know a little bit of a lesser deal,

2801
01:56:15,440 --> 01:56:17,720
Speaker 1: Like you're gonna get him at less money than he's making.

2802
01:56:17,800 --> 01:56:19,120
Speaker 1: You already paid him too much money.

2803
01:56:20,200 --> 01:56:25,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, draft, I think he's right around thirty. But I mean,

2804
01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:27,440
Speaker 6: I I like what the Packers did. I mean, you know,

2805
01:56:27,520 --> 01:56:29,360
Speaker 6: they like all this stuff that we're talking about. I

2806
01:56:29,400 --> 01:56:32,240
Speaker 6: feel like they've just been stacking receivers. They drafted two

2807
01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:33,840
Speaker 6: tight ends last year. I mean they got you know,

2808
01:56:33,960 --> 01:56:38,480
Speaker 6: Watson and where, but not in the first I mean

2809
01:56:38,600 --> 01:56:42,160
Speaker 6: second Watson do But those first two days read but

2810
01:56:42,400 --> 01:56:45,680
Speaker 6: talented guys not is a craft Tucker Craft right?

2811
01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:47,680
Speaker 1: And then the other guy the other think of the

2812
01:56:47,720 --> 01:56:50,720
Speaker 1: other musk Grave, lukebus Grave, like not first round picks,

2813
01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:54,800
Speaker 1: like you can do it, but you you gotta do

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01:56:54,880 --> 01:56:55,440
Speaker 1: it and you had.

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01:56:55,360 --> 01:56:58,960
Speaker 5: Some throwing a GM and you probably need department.

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01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:00,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just did fresh minds.

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01:57:00,600 --> 01:57:02,080
Speaker 6: I think you look at Green Bay right now, and

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01:57:02,160 --> 01:57:04,000
Speaker 6: that's you know, I mean, I don't know how good

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01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:08,520
Speaker 6: they really are. I mean everyone's high, but they're young, energetic.

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01:57:08,920 --> 01:57:10,600
Speaker 1: Do you think now this is where I would say,

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01:57:10,680 --> 01:57:13,640
Speaker 1: like as opposed to Pittsburgh, which I don't think has

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01:57:13,720 --> 01:57:16,760
Speaker 1: that kind of talent on the roster, green Bay I

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01:57:16,840 --> 01:57:19,400
Speaker 1: can see something if Jordan Love continues to play the

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01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:21,080
Speaker 1: way he did the last three games, and these guys,

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01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:23,000
Speaker 1: I can see something. These guys are all going to

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01:57:23,040 --> 01:57:26,440
Speaker 1: get better together and then all of a sudden, you know,

2827
01:57:26,520 --> 01:57:28,400
Speaker 1: and not bad on the defensive side of the ball

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01:57:28,440 --> 01:57:32,000
Speaker 1: either in terms of youth with like they have and

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01:57:32,160 --> 01:57:34,160
Speaker 1: kway Walker is there too, right they have I mean

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01:57:34,240 --> 01:57:38,360
Speaker 1: they have something individual personnel JayR Alexander's no, you know,

2831
01:57:38,600 --> 01:57:42,960
Speaker 1: no dinosaur. They could be, you know, two years from now,

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01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:44,360
Speaker 1: you can be looking at them the way we look

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01:57:44,360 --> 01:57:45,080
Speaker 1: at San Francisco.

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01:57:45,160 --> 01:57:47,760
Speaker 6: Now, all right, well that's gonna do it for us.

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01:57:48,080 --> 01:57:52,440
Speaker 6: Make sure you stay for the playbook. John Rook up

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01:57:52,520 --> 01:57:55,640
Speaker 6: next and pregame show will be tomorrow six pm, so

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01:57:55,800 --> 01:57:58,080
Speaker 6: tune in for that, and the Patriots will travel to

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01:57:58,080 --> 01:58:01,440
Speaker 6: Pittsburgh to take on this I'll see it five or

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01:58:01,480 --> 01:58:02,800
Speaker 6: six and we'll see you guys tomorrow.

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