1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles on ahead. 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 2: He got jacked. 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 3: This is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 3: and Gilbert. 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 4: Terry's Gonna score touchdown Slim to the ground by Buddha 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 4: Banker like a torpedo. 7 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: He came flying into the backfield. 8 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: The Rage. 9 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 3: It is brought to you by santan Ford and Gilbert 10 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 3: right on the Price, right on the corner of the 11 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 3: sand Tan two to two freeway. 12 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 5: In Valves Want a Crab by Trey McBride that was spectacular. 13 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 6: And by Arizona Cardinals podcast. 14 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 3: Visit Azycardinals dot Com Slash podcast. 15 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: All Red Sea is Rising, Uard. 16 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 3: Jump You, Rising Vision, Flurry Rage, Take it Ober. Here's 17 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 3: Paul Calvici. 18 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: I'm ready. 19 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 6: I'm one hundred percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready. 20 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: And Ron Wolfley, it doesn't get any better than that 21 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: the film. 22 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 5: Big Game, Big Number. Let's start with a game Super Bowl. 23 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 5: We're tracking towards New Orleans. Ron Wolfley, if it can 24 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 5: snow in the Big Easy this week, and it most 25 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 5: definitely snowed the most snow in New Orleans since eighteen 26 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 5: ninety five. New Orleans has twice as much snow this 27 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 5: winter than Anchorage. If that can happen, then you know what, 28 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,559 Speaker 5: a rookie QB can lead his team to the super 29 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 5: Bowl for the first time ever. We'll get into that, okay, 30 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 5: but you know what else is possible. You know what 31 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 5: else can happen. How about Show number seven hundred of 32 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 5: the Big Red Rage, presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. 33 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 5: Let that hang in the air for a moment. Let 34 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 5: that number sink in for a moment. Show number seven 35 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 5: hundred more than two decades worth of the Big Red Rage. 36 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: You know, PAULI, I have no idea how many did 37 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: we do? How many have we done? How many Big 38 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: Red Rages of that seven hundred because it started before 39 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: we actually came on board, Like how many years ago, 40 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: two or three. 41 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 5: Years before us. Well, if I can't do everything, you're 42 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 5: supposed to calculate that number over there. Okay, here's what 43 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 5: I will say, sunning it is, and here's we're gonna 44 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 5: throw back to some of the glory years of the 45 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 5: Big Red Rage. How about bertrand Barry himself is gonna 46 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 5: join us on this episode Show number seven hundred, B 47 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 5: train because if you want us to name drop we will. 48 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 5: I mean, over the years some of the player hosts 49 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 5: Kwame Lassiter and Kwon Bolden, Bertrand Barry, Adrian Wilson, Carrie Rhodes, 50 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 5: Kaleus Campbell, d J. 51 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 6: Humphreys. Think about that, hey, Paulie. 52 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: As soon as you say that, I think of the 53 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: kwany laugh was the best. 54 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 5: Guess what we're gonna hear an Kwon Bolden laugh and 55 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 5: laugh a hearty laugh. A little bit later in this 56 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 5: edition of The Big Red Rage, so once again the 57 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 5: b train right around the corner. He is headlining, he 58 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 5: is batting cleanup. But first shopping season, if you will. 59 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 5: For American consumers, that would be the holidays. If you're 60 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 5: an NFL GM, get ready to break out the black 61 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 5: amex card. All right, get ready to go shopping and 62 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 5: wolf of There's one thing we have learned about Maniasaford 63 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 5: and head coach Jonathan Gannon. They try and assess the 64 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 5: person before they evaluate the player. 65 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 6: Would you agree with that? 66 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: No doubt about it, bully, That's what they do. JG 67 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: calls it the price of admission. 68 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 6: No doubt. 69 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 5: In fact, here's Jonathan Gannon on how they have gone 70 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 5: about building this roster and when we say build from 71 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,119 Speaker 5: the inside out. We don't just mean from a line 72 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 5: of scrimmage out. We mean from between the years on 73 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 5: the way out. 74 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 7: We've been intentional in our mind what we want the 75 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 7: Arizona Cardinals players to look like Mani and myself, And 76 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 7: so I think that we've done a really good job 77 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 7: of acquiring guys that are kind of like minded about 78 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 7: how they go about their business. So I think the 79 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 7: more guys you have like that, the respect levels there, 80 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 7: the accountability as levels there. We got a lot of 81 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 7: high character guys that put the team in front of themselves. 82 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 5: It's interesting Wolf, we host his TV show every week. 83 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 5: How many times have we heard Jonathan Gannis say they 84 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 5: try and interview players and then they look at each 85 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 5: other and they say, do we want this guy in 86 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 5: our building? And if the answer is yes, then they 87 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 5: dive into the film. Then they figure out when he 88 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 5: talks when he talks about that price of admission. Let's 89 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 5: drill a little deeper. What do you think they're looking 90 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 5: for in the person slash player? 91 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, PAULI, I think they're looking for pros. I really do. 92 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: They don't want any guys that are coming in that 93 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: are going to be about themselves. They want guys that 94 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: actually come in with the idea even though you are 95 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: a mercenary and you're playing in the biggest mercenary league 96 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: on the face of the planet or in the universe 97 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: for that matter. I think they want guys who are 98 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: going to put team over me. They got T shirts, 99 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: they talk about it all the time. But I think 100 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: that's what they're looking for, a guy that is really 101 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: squared away. Now. Of course, can you play? That matters 102 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: first and foremost. Can you play. They're not going to 103 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: bring some guy in who can't play. That's never gonna happen. 104 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: But if you are going to be brought in and 105 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: you can play, that's what they're looking for. A guy 106 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: that is going to take team and put it over me. 107 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 5: Looking for what do you think the shopping list looks 108 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 5: like this offseason. We'll name some names Cardinals free agents 109 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 5: to be potentially, but in general, where do you think 110 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 5: the emphasis might be this offseason? 111 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: Man? You know, Polly, I think on the line of scrimmage. 112 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: I continue to look at the line of scrimmage and 113 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: believe that some of the teams that are left in 114 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: the championship games, if you look at the AFC and 115 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship games. Boy, there's a lot of teams 116 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: that have really, really good lines of scrimmage on both 117 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: sides of the ball. And it's interesting because we're going 118 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about free agency, of course 119 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: in this beautiful part of the program. But man, some 120 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: of the free agents that I think they've all already 121 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: got signed. Justin Jones, here's a guy that again got 122 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: hurt early, but Balale Nichols. Those two guys right there, 123 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: I think coming back you can almost look at them 124 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: as free agent acquisitions in the year twenty twenty five. 125 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: Will Hernandez as well, another guy I really believe there's 126 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: going to be an emphasis on the line of scrimmage 127 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: or in the box on both sides of the ball 128 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: offensively and defensively. That's where I'm going to. 129 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 5: Start, I agree, especially that guard position, if you want 130 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 5: to begin there. Will Hernandez coming off the knee injury. 131 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 5: What's his status both health wise, contract, He's scheduled to 132 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 5: be a free agent. Evan Brown, he was playing on 133 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 5: a one year deal, So you know, obviously you're said 134 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 5: at the left tackle position, yelled of Froholdt was just extended. 135 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:46,919 Speaker 6: You really like Jonah Williams. 136 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 5: He's under a long term contract, he's rehabbing from his 137 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 5: own injury. So that interior offensive line on either side 138 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 5: of yelled a Froholdt. And then you mentioned pass rushers, right, 139 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 5: I mean Bgo Jalari, someone who went down in and ight, 140 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 5: a free agent that they traded for mid season. I 141 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 5: think showed really well in the final month. And you know, 142 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 5: Jonathan Agannon was very bullish towards the end of the 143 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 5: season on Baron Browning. I think there's a guy that 144 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 5: you target to bring back and try because it's all 145 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 5: about the quarterback and affect the quarterback. 146 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: No doubt about it, Pully. And then you've got some 147 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: other free agents as well that are out there. I 148 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: think a Kaizer White is a guy that stands out immediately. 149 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: I would think they would like to bring back Kaizer White. 150 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,679 Speaker 1: You got Dennis Gardak. Now he's coming off a serious injury. 151 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,679 Speaker 1: We all understand that. But you also have to sign 152 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: some guys as well for depth, and a guy like 153 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: Chris Barnes Paully I would point to, here's a really 154 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: good special teams player, and yet he's a guy that 155 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: can come in and definitely be a solid backup in 156 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: terms of playing the inside linebacker position. I think Joey Blunt, 157 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: there's another guy who's a great special teams player. I 158 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: think you've got Roy Lopez that is out there right now, 159 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,559 Speaker 1: and he's one of my favorite guys. You know that, PAULI. 160 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: We talk about it all the time. I think here's 161 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: a guy that really flexed a little bit last year 162 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: and held together a defensive line that was truly in 163 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: trouble with all the injuries that they suffered, and yet 164 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: he held that thing together, man, and played well. 165 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 5: I would agree Roy Lopez. We had him on the 166 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 5: Big Red Rage here towards the end of the season. 167 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 5: One of our favorite guests, l J. Collier, right, Yes, 168 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 5: he was another one who I mean, look, he had 169 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 5: a similar situation to Justin Jones and Ball Nichols this 170 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 5: year last year where he went down in the first 171 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 5: game of the year, but he came back with a 172 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 5: vengeance and he bawled out. He was reliable, he was productive, 173 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 5: and so I think he's going to be a key 174 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 5: target in this offseason, I would presume. But you know, 175 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 5: you mentioned the team's remaining in the playoffs and look, 176 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 5: josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Jayden Daniels, some elite quarterback play 177 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 5: right there. But I look at Philadelphia Jalen Hurts. You know, 178 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 5: he's pretty good as a quarterback, but he's not winning 179 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 5: games single handedly. To me, it's the team they have 180 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 5: built around Jalen Hursts. Yes, to have an offensive line 181 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 5: where all five guys got all Pro votes, and then 182 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 5: have that defense which they most definitely built from the 183 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 5: inside out Jalen Carter and company. I look at the 184 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 5: Eagles as a semi blueprint for where the Cardinals might 185 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 5: be headed. 186 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: No, Paully, that is a great observation right there, It 187 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: really is. And that was the team I was thinking 188 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: of more so than any other. Their offensive line one 189 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: of the best in the National Football League. When you 190 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: talk about the best offensive lines in the league, the 191 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles, I've got to be brought into that conversation. 192 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: You look at the defense once again. Listen, the number 193 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: one defense in the National Football League in terms of 194 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: yards per game allowed and yards per play allowed. Would 195 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: you say that's a big metric. 196 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 6: Right now, league, I didn't realize that, Yeah. 197 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: No doubt about that. And then passing defense number one 198 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: in yards passing yards per game, allowed in passing yards 199 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: per play aloud, the same thing the Philadelphia Eagles defense 200 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: is stout. We're gonna talk a little bit about that later, 201 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: but man, the exciting thing is the Arizona Cardinals also 202 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: have a lot of first year guys that are gonna 203 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: make that development, that improvement into their second year. And 204 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: I think based on what we saw from the rookie 205 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: class of twenty twenty three getting better in twenty twenty four, 206 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: we got a lot to be encouraged. 207 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, no doubt. 208 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 5: It's been let the rooks cook for two straight years, 209 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 5: that twenty three class that led the NFL in rookie 210 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 5: starts and rookie snaps, and then a dozen rookies in 211 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 5: this past draft class. You got to figure that's gonna 212 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 5: pay off in a big way. Hey, Join the Cardinal 213 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 5: season ticket wait list today. For a list of all 214 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 5: opponents and learn about season ticket member benefits, go to 215 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 5: Ezycardinals dot com slash waitlist. Bertrand Barry is next on 216 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 5: show number seven hundred on The Big Red Rage presented 217 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 5: by Santan Forard in Gilbert. You're flying soul tonight, but 218 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 5: it doesn't mean you don't have big news to announce, 219 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 5: bertrand Barry. 220 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, I just want to. I wanted to make this 221 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 8: night special. I wanted to do it here on this show. 222 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 8: The show is very special to me. I've done this 223 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 8: show for five years with two great co hosts and 224 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 8: a producer that has been great, and they made the 225 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 8: show spectacular. 226 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: They made it part. 227 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 8: Of my life, and I'm very thankful for that. And 228 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 8: I just wanted to do these guys in honor and 229 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 8: letting them know and go publicly that I've played my 230 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 8: last game of professional football. 231 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm retiring for real. 232 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go, ladies and gentlemen. The official announcement 233 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 5: right here on the Big Red. 234 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 9: Rays with Fredrand Barry calling it a career after twelve 235 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 9: glorious seasons in the NFL, and yes, that is deserving 236 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 9: of a standing ovation. 237 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 5: Thank you, Thank you, guys, thank you fifteen years ago 238 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 5: this week? How about that? What did the kids say 239 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 5: here in twenty twenty five? All the fields in your fields? 240 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: Wolf? 241 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 5: You use that all the time, All in your fields? 242 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 5: You know, one of those. I'm getting a little teary 243 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 5: eyed over here, but no better guest for show number 244 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 5: seven hundred here on the Big Red Rage presented by 245 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 5: Santan Ford and Gilbert then longtime player host bertrand Bury himself. 246 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 5: Be Train, how you doing. 247 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: I'm doing pretty good. How you guys doing, Man, It's 248 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 2: good to hear you boys, which feels like old time. 249 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: We're doing really well. Be Man, We really appreciate you 250 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: joining us for this show right now, the seven one 251 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: hundredth Big Red Ray Show. If you can believe. 252 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 5: That, here's the rundown. By the way, some of the 253 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 5: names over the years, Kwame Lassiter and Kwan Bolden. There 254 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 5: was a year with Dexter Jackson and Freddie Jones as 255 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 5: the player host. You did five years as you mentioned there, 256 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 5: Adrian Wilson, Carry Rhodes, Kaleis Campbell, DJ Humphries. That is 257 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 5: quite a lineup over more than two decades. I mean 258 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 5: betraying what stands when you think back in your five 259 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 5: years and right and the show, what stands out the 260 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 5: most to you. 261 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: There's so many memories, paul I, they're flooding back to me. 262 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: The one that I will always remember is the one 263 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 2: for the NFC Championship game where we had the Clydesdale 264 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 2: or after the NFC Championship game where we had the 265 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 2: Clydesdale there, you know, at Marley's, and you know, the 266 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: whole parking lot was packed, and there were so many 267 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 2: people out there, and there were so many special guests 268 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: that came on. I believe we had the Mayor of 269 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: Phoenix there, and you know, of course mister Bidwill came 270 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 2: on and a couple other guests. I mean, it was 271 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 2: just it was one of those magical moments, and I 272 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 2: was just so happy to have finally brought a winner 273 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 2: to the valley and the Cardinal fans could have something 274 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 2: to truly cheer about it and realize that we were 275 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 2: on the cusp of actually winning a world championship. That 276 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: was That's a memory that I will always take. 277 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,359 Speaker 1: That is incredible, but it really is. How about retirement, 278 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: my brother, how is it going for you in retirement 279 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: right now? How are you doing? 280 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 2: I'm doing pretty good. I actually feel pretty good. Wolf. 281 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 2: My body doesn't hurt because I've been able to keep 282 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 2: it moving and you know, as you well know, I'm 283 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: training the next generation of edge rushers and guys that 284 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 2: are going to be getting after quarterbacks and stretching everybody 285 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 2: as well, doing a little fascial stretching as well. So 286 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 2: really just movement is still a big part of my 287 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 2: life and I'm enjoying it. I'm enjoying this aspect of 288 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 2: it and seeing the young guys learn and grow. It's 289 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 2: been truly rewarding, and watching them play wolf it's even 290 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 2: more rewarding than watching my own career. 291 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 5: I bet Bertram Barry is our guest here on the 292 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 5: Big Red Rage. You had the Pro Bowl two thousand 293 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 5: and four season, fourteen and a half sacks. 294 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 6: How much football do you watch? NFL? 295 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 5: We know, we know you watched your Notre Dame all 296 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 5: the way to the championship game. 297 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 6: We know that, But how. 298 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 5: About the Cardinals these days? How about the NFL? And 299 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 5: if so, what did you think of this season? 300 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 2: I thought this was one of the better seasons that 301 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: I've actually watched, and I do watch football. I don't 302 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 2: have any regrets, and I don't have any ill feelings 303 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 2: towards the NFL. I left the game at just the 304 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 2: right time and I felt like I could still do it, 305 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: and I had no regrets. I'd accomplished everything I could, Paul, 306 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 2: So I don't feel like a lot of guys that 307 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: I've played with, Unfortunately, that don't really care for the 308 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 2: game post career, But you know, I still love the game. 309 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 2: I'm still addicted. I watch Friday, Friday nights, Saturday afternoons 310 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: to Saturday night, and all day Sunday as well. So 311 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: I'm still just as in love with the sport as 312 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 2: I was when I was nine years old. I just 313 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: know that I can't play it anymore, but I will 314 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: always enjoy watching it. And I feel like this year 315 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 2: was one of the healthier seasons that I've seen from 316 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 2: the entire sport, as far as the teams, the competitiveness, 317 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 2: the storylines top to bottom. I just thought it was 318 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 2: a really good year as far as as storylines and 319 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 2: and you know, of course we've got three games left 320 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 2: and I'm excited to watch all three. 321 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: So B when you when you look at the game 322 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: of football today, and I know you haven't been retired 323 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: that long, but do you see any changes from when 324 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: you retired, when you were playing and you retired to 325 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: what you see today from the game of football? Do 326 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: you see changes? 327 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: Well? If I see the game being a lot faster, 328 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 2: there's a lot more emphasis put on scoring points, as 329 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 2: you know it's always been. You know, you you you know, 330 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: offense puts butts in the seats, but you know, defense 331 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 2: wins championships. I still believe that that's the case, but 332 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: you're starting to see it now where there's more specific 333 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: emphasis put on certain positions where you know, of course 334 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 2: the quarterback is getting a lot of the attention and 335 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: wide receives out of the attention. But you know, I 336 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 2: just see it as a faster game. There's a lot 337 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 2: of things that when you see these athletes that they're 338 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 2: rolling out now, these guys are so well conditioned and 339 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: they're taking such great care of their bodies, you just 340 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 2: marvel at the things that they can do on a 341 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: football field. And I think it's great. Most aspects of 342 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 2: it is great, but there are some aspects I think 343 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 2: as far as the defense defensive player, there are some 344 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 2: things I think they could maybe loosing and relax the 345 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 2: rules a little bit because it's hard. It's harder than 346 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 2: ever to play defense right now. And I think you 347 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 2: were to poll any defensive player right now, they would 348 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 2: tell you, man, it's hard. You don't know how to 349 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 2: tackle guys, you don't know how to hit quarterbacks, you 350 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 2: don't know what's illegal use of hands, You don't know 351 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 2: what's passing the face. I mean, there's so many rules 352 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: that are in favor of the offense. It does skew 353 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: it in that way, but for the most part, it's 354 00:17:58,080 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 2: still a beautiful game to watch. 355 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 5: Bertram Burrea our guest here on showing number seven hundred 356 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 5: of the Big Red Rage. Of course, b Train's name 357 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 5: was on this show for a good five years and 358 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 5: as someone who would rush the passer for a living. 359 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 5: Tell us about the Cardinals in the offseason. They had 360 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 5: seventeen different players with at least one sack a piece. 361 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 5: They had a dozen guys with two sacks or more. 362 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 5: How big would it be if they could find that 363 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,719 Speaker 5: one guy, though, who could have a seventeen sacks season. 364 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 5: How far would that go in trying to improve the defense? 365 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 2: Oh, I think that's everything. If you don't have that guy. 366 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 2: In today's NFL, it's going to be very hard to 367 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 2: win unless you have a great scheme where you're constantly 368 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 2: bringing heat and finding different ways to put pressure on 369 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 2: the quarterback. You would love to have that one guy 370 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 2: that can just tell you that you can just tell hey, 371 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 2: go get us one, we need to stop right now, 372 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 2: and he's able to go do it, and those guys 373 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,239 Speaker 2: are hard to find. I can appreciate that, but I 374 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 2: think if the Cardinals specifically were to find that guy, 375 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: I think it would take a lot of pressure off 376 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 2: a lot of the linebackers as well as Budda Baker 377 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 2: and the secondary as well. It would just it would 378 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 2: allow everybody to fill their natural roles and play their 379 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: natural positions. And so a great pass rusher in a 380 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 2: passing lead is absolutely mandatory, and if you don't have one, 381 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,880 Speaker 2: you better go find one quick faster than a hurd 382 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 2: b It. 383 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: Just seems like there's such an emphasis on the edge 384 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: right now, and I think it's for all the reasons 385 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: you were just talking about the edge of the edge 386 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: of the edge and how important it truly is. It's 387 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: even more important today than I think when you were playing. 388 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: Would you agree with that? 389 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: I absolutely would agree with it. And you're looking at 390 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: the look at the money, and look at how all 391 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 2: the money is gearing towards the quarterback. There's more pressure 392 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 2: on the quarterback now more than ever, and so they're 393 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 2: not paying those guys fifty sixty million dollars to hand 394 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 2: the ball off. They're paying them to actually get the 395 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: ball down the field efficiently and in chunk plays because 396 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 2: they understand that football, as much as it is a 397 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: contact sport and a physical sport, it's entertainment. And the 398 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 2: way that you entertain fans is that you have those 399 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 2: fifty forty thirty sixty yard passes down the field to 400 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 2: a wide receiver running, you know, stride for stride and 401 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: making a great catch. So there's a lot to be 402 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 2: said about what what today's game is. I think it's 403 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 2: a good place. But you know, I also love the 404 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 2: fact that you saw the resurgence of the running back 405 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: and well, if you know, no great running back is 406 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 2: without a great blocker in front of them. We need 407 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: that full back back. Brother. When you love the guys 408 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 2: what they've done this year, you need that guy to 409 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 2: lead the way. And we saw that with Derrick Henry. 410 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 2: You saw that with say Kwan Barkley. Those guys had 411 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: tremendous seasons. And there are a few other running backs 412 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 2: as well. But you're just seeing that position come back 413 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 2: in the prominence and I think it's a good thing 414 00:20:55,880 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 2: overall for the league because it brings back that physical 415 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 2: that I know you and I we just talked long 416 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 2: nights and days about you know, missing that element in 417 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 2: today's football. Right. 418 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 5: Speaking of bringing things back, let's go down memory lane here, 419 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 5: let's go into the cold tub time machine, if you will. 420 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 5: You had an Kwan Bolden as a guest during one 421 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 5: show and the topic of Robert Tate came up. He 422 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 5: was a backup defensive back, but he was a singular 423 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 5: personality because of his nickname Top five. Let's go back 424 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 5: and revisit that moment. 425 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 10: When you have a nickname top five, you automatically set 426 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 10: yourself up for all kind of ribbon, you know what 427 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 10: I mean. And he calls itself one of the top 428 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 10: five dresses. 429 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 11: He calls itself top five and it actually has boxers 430 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 11: with top five. 431 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 10: He's taking his nickname to the next Wait, wait, top five. 432 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 2: Called Robert Tate the locker room hustler. 433 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: Here's a guy. 434 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 11: He rings out his mopad rints the family van. After 435 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 11: things given, they have the blowout sale. Robert Tate is 436 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 11: at Walmart four o'clock in the morning until by twelve 437 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 11: hundred dollars plus ASTHMA TV pie is about four of 438 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 11: them comes to the locker room and try to sell 439 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 11: them to the teammates for about two three thousand dollars. 440 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: This is your boy, this is Top five. 441 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 6: Who's buying the TVs from Tate? And who's renting the mopad? 442 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 5: That's why I want to does he get any business? 443 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 11: He does? JJ Aronson was a guy who bought a 444 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 11: couple of. 445 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: Las from him. 446 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 5: You know the best part about that, I think Wolf 447 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 5: agrees is just listening to you and Ankwon Bolden laugh. 448 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, the two of you guys. We could hear 449 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 5: you guys laughing on the team plane. It's just that 450 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 5: laugh was infectious. It's just outstanding. 451 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 2: We both have big voices and we both have unmistakable 452 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 2: laugh And both of those guys were great teammates. And 453 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 2: kwe is one of my favorite teammates of all time, 454 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 2: and just his personality and the way that he approached 455 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 2: the game, you couldn't help but love him. And Top 456 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: five Robert Tate was one of those personalities that you 457 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 2: have to have that when you are talking about a 458 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 2: complete team. You've got your leaders, You've got your guys 459 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 2: that are to try hard guys, but then you gotta 460 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: have little guys that they just bring They light the 461 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 2: mood a little bit and they make it a little 462 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 2: bit easier on those tough days to get through. And 463 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 2: so props to top five Robert, Tad and Q and 464 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: all my teammates. Man, I loved eating every one of them. 465 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 5: Well, if I know, here's a moment you you loved. 466 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,360 Speaker 5: All right, let's go back Dominique Rogers Cromarty a pro 467 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 5: Bowl corner. 468 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 6: Absolute burner. 469 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 5: Right, But here's in a different way burner if you will, 470 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 5: the story about how he would make Boloney's sandwiches. Dominique, 471 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 5: did you emb to bring an iron with you? Tell 472 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 5: everyone what you do with an iron? 473 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: And Bolooney, that's how I make my bloonna sandwich. 474 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 5: Go ahead, keep going, tell us how take the I. 475 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: Pressed down on the meat and then I put it 476 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: on my bread and eat it? 477 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 11: Now? 478 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 5: Was that just in college? 479 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 6: You still do that to this day? 480 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 2: Day? Nice? 481 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 7: Nice? 482 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: How do your shirts not smell like Bolooney? 483 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 5: And if memory serves, he had the irons in his locker? 484 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 5: Did he not be trained? I mean he had a 485 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 5: couple of irons in his locker, I think. 486 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, there was never a moment where 487 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 2: the opportunities to present HI stuff. He was going to 488 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 2: make a press Baloney sandwich. You know, what I mean 489 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 2: like that. That was d r C. Another unique character, 490 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 2: a guy that was one of the best athletes that 491 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 2: I've ever been around. You know, we we have a 492 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 2: lot of fun with d r C. And he was 493 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 2: young when he was around me. But man, let me 494 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 2: tell you, one of the best natural athletes I've ever 495 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 2: seen is you know, just a great guy and really 496 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 2: loved his teammates, and you know he was he was 497 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 2: a pleasure to work with. I truly enjoyed my two 498 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 2: years with him. For sure. 499 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: If somebody came up to you and said, give me 500 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: your teammate Hall of Fame, I mean, top three teammates 501 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: of all could you do it? Could you? Could you 502 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: actually give us three names? 503 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 2: You know, if I man put me on the spot, 504 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 2: I would have to say, and Corn is that one 505 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 2: of them? Kurt Warner is definitely one. How do you 506 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 2: not love Kurk? I'm gonna go Rod Smith with the 507 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 2: Denver Bronco. He was. He was one of those guys 508 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 2: receiver played a long time undrafted, still to this day 509 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 2: has the record for most undrafted receiving yards in the NFL. 510 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 2: I mean, just a great guy and we still keep 511 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: in contact to this day. But there are some ass 512 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: there are some guys that that stick out more than 513 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 2: another guy. God rest his soul was Elijah Alexander my 514 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 2: time in Indianapolis. He was a guy who lost him 515 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 2: to maloloma cancer a few years back. But man, I 516 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 2: tell you those those three to four guys, they stick 517 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 2: out to me. And uh, you know with q Q 518 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 2: speaks for himself, and Kurk speaks for himself, and Rod, 519 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 2: you know, he's one of those guys. I think he 520 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 2: should be wearing a gold jacket here sooner than later. 521 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 2: But you know, just great men. You know they were 522 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: great football players that they were better men betraying. 523 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 6: We really enjoyed it. 524 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 5: We cherished all those memories as well, and look forward 525 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 5: to talking to you. Here's the offseason morphs into the 526 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 5: season and we continue to talk football with you all 527 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 5: the best going forward. 528 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 6: Okay, Bertrade, I. 529 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 2: Love you guys. I miss you guys, man, and you know, anytime, man, 530 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 2: I'm always a roupper. 531 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 5: Okay, there you go, bertrand Barry. We continue and we 532 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 5: get into the AFC and NFC championship games. Next show 533 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 5: number seven hundred on the Big Red Rage presented by 534 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 5: Santan Ford in Gilbert. 535 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 12: Stroud will go to a knee, and that is it, 536 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 12: and the Chiefs with the countdown on zero's on the clock, 537 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 12: and the Chiefs will advance to their seventh consecutive AFC 538 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 12: Championship Game as they beat the Houston Texans twenty three 539 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 12: to fourteen. 540 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 13: Allen back to the line of scribblets hands under a 541 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 13: center takes a snap, drops twenty and now it's offecial 542 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 13: for the first time since twenty twenty. For the seventh 543 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 13: time in franchise history, the Buffalo Bills are going to 544 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 13: the AFC Championship Game. Bills twenty seven, Ravens twenty five. 545 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 13: Next week Buffalo at Kansas City where that tripped the 546 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 13: Super Bowl fifty nine on the line. 547 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 5: So it'll be Casey against Buffalo in the playoffs for 548 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 5: the fourth time in five years. That's Ryan Radkey preceded 549 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 5: by Kevin Harlan Westwood one. Kansas City has beaten Buffalo 550 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 5: three times in a row in the postseason, and right 551 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 5: now the final four standing Ron Wolfley. Here's all you 552 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 5: need to know in terms of what happened in the 553 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 5: divisional round. The four winning teams Washington, Philly, Buffalo, Casey 554 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 5: advanced after committing zero zero point zero zero turnovers, while 555 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 5: the opponents, the losing teams committed ten combined. So there 556 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 5: you go, the ball and the ball, Pauli. 557 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: That is you know who's that all the time? The ball, 558 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: the ball, the ball. 559 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 5: It's the winning behavior that Jonathan Gannon talks about. 560 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: That's exactly right right there, Paui. You know what's interesting 561 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 1: about this the Buffalo Bills. Go back and look at 562 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. We're talking about them. The AFC Championship game, 563 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: of course, is going to be played in Kansas City. 564 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: But the Buffalo Bills did not lose a turnover battle 565 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: all season long. Did you know that? 566 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 6: I did not know that, not one, Pauli. 567 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: They did not. They were plus twenty four in the 568 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: turnover column, plus twenty four on the season. The number 569 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: two team in the NFL was plus sixteen. They think 570 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: about that, Paul, that just doesn't happen. And sure enough, 571 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: what happened against the Baltimore Ravens. The Buffalo Bills were 572 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: plus three. 573 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 5: Well think about this. In in fact our Jim Momhunro he 574 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 5: drilled deep on this one. Thirty five takeaways this year 575 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 5: for the Bills, only eight giveaways. They can become the 576 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 5: first team ever with less than ten turnovers in a season. 577 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 5: Let that hang in the era A team that went 578 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 5: ten and zero at home. I bring that up in 579 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 5: part because guess what they were trailing seventeen to three 580 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 5: Week one to the Cardinals at home. Still vexxing. But 581 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 5: it shows you, though, I mean, what the Cardinals are 582 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 5: capable of. Right, But here's the thing on the road 583 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 5: in the playoffs, the Buffalo Bills are zero and four 584 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 5: all time under Sean McDermott. So what is your confidence 585 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 5: level the Bills is currently constructed can go into Kansas 586 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 5: City and knock off the two time champions. 587 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? How many times have they played the Kansas City 588 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: Chiefs in the postseason? How many consecutive seasons? 589 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 8: Paul? 590 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 5: Did you say four and five years? And they've so 591 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 5: this will be the fourth time in five years. 592 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: Right, this will be the fourth time right here? You know, 593 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: for Bills fans, the number four is not a good thing. 594 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,479 Speaker 1: It isn't and the reason being, of course, is they 595 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: went to four consecutive Super Bowls under Jim Kelly and 596 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: the k Gun back in the day and lost all four. 597 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: Do you have any idea how difficult it is to 598 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: get to a super Bowl four consecutive years and then 599 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: to lose all four. So when you say this could 600 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: be the fourth time that the Bills lose to the 601 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs, four is not a good number in Buffalo. 602 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 5: And they haven't made it back to the super Bowl 603 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 5: since that ninety two to ninety three campaign. So when 604 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 5: you look at when you look at Kansas City, give 605 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 5: me this thought, where do you think they're vulnerable? Because 606 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 5: they just seem to do just enough to beat you 607 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 5: every single week. I mean, what do you do when 608 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 5: you're going against Patrick Mahomes and company? 609 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Paulli, it's a great question right there. I think 610 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: they are vulnerable in terms of having to throw the 611 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: ball now. Again, Travis Kelcey is a whole different glass 612 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: of water, There's no doubt about that. But their wide 613 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: receiver room has not been great, and Patrick Mahomes has 614 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: played one of his better seasons. I think overall, Paul, 615 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: even though the numbers would not say that, I think 616 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes' greatest strength is his ability to make great 617 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: decisions in a game. Rarely, Paul, do you ever see 618 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes put the ball in Jeopardy. Have you ever 619 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: noticed that? 620 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 5: That's great point? And you know what, Kansas City has 621 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 5: played eight straight games without a turnover. 622 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: There it is, But it's the truth, PAULI. It's just 623 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: a situation where he makes great reads and great decisions 624 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: and rarely is he going to put that ball in 625 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: any type of trouble where somebody else can pick that 626 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: thing off. So I think that is probably their greatest 627 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: strength right now. And I think it's ironic that they're 628 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: playing the Buffalo Bills when Pat Mahomes' greatest strength, in 629 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: my opinion, is the decision making process and how many 630 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: great decisions he makes. And then Josh Allen on the 631 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: other side of the ball, where, boy, especially when he 632 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: was in the league for the first three four years, man, 633 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: he was making some hard decisions, some decisions that were 634 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: not really good right there. And I thought it was 635 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: hysterical to see the Buffalo Buffalo Bill's playing the Ravens 636 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: again where they had a third and two and they 637 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: were trying to score a touchdown and there's Josh Josh 638 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: Allen getting the ball and he attacks the line of scrimmage, 639 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,959 Speaker 1: he gets stuffed, and did you see he turned around 640 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: and thought all pitching it up. 641 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 6: Don't do it, don't do it, don't do it. Yeah, 642 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 6: he wanted to. 643 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: He actually showed maturity and the growth that he has 644 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: really really embraced over the last few years, and because 645 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: of that, hopefully he's going to make better decisions going forward. 646 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,719 Speaker 5: So Patrick Mahomes is sixteen and three in the playoffs 647 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 5: in his career, seeking his seventeenth postseason win that would 648 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 5: pass Joe Montana all time and trail only Tom Brady. 649 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 5: Dare I say though this year, in large part, he's 650 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 5: been riding the coattails of his defense. Kansas City's d 651 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 5: had eight sacks of c. J. 652 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 6: Stroud. 653 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 5: Now, trying to bring down Josh Allen is sort of 654 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 5: like trying to bring down Big Ben, you know, except 655 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 5: with except with wheels. 656 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 6: Yes, So, I mean, what. 657 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 5: Do you think could the whole KCD and Buffalo's offensive 658 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 5: line is one of their strong points. I like that matchup. 659 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 5: I think that's going to be very pivotal. 660 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, so do I. I think it's all going to 661 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: start with Kansas City's ability to limit James Cook and 662 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: the damage that James Cook can do running the ball. 663 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: It's not like the Buffalo Bills have a great running game. 664 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: I don't think they have a great rushing attack, but 665 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: I can tell you right now it's good what they have. 666 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: And James Cook, I think is very explosively and I 667 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: would say, depending on what the weather is, James Cook, 668 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: you might want to highlight his name because I think 669 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: if it is a little tumultuous, if it's a little bad, 670 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: I think that James Cook could be the guy that 671 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: allows the Buffalo Bills to eventually win this game. He's 672 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: an excellent receiver coming out of the backfield, and he 673 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: runs the ball between the tackles very well for a 674 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 1: guy that's not very big. 675 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 5: Come in full circle to a name you dropped earlier, 676 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 5: Travis Kelcey. You know, I think it's one of those 677 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 5: things that's really unifying this divided country. It's our disdain, 678 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 5: our collective disdain as a nation for the Kansas City 679 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 5: Chiefs and all the commercials that feature Travis Kelcey and 680 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 5: his brother and Patrick Mahomes. But in the playoffs, it's undeniable. 681 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes threw for one hundred and seventy seven yards 682 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 5: and one hundred and seventeen of them. Where to Travis Kelcey, 683 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 5: the dude just gets open. He gets into the end zone. 684 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 5: If you had the answer to this question, you'd probably 685 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 5: be a defensive coordinator. But how do you stop playoff 686 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 5: Travis Kelcey. 687 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, you get to Patrick Mahomes. You 688 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: get to Mahomes And yet, you know, you think of 689 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes throwing that touchdown to Travis Kelcey in the 690 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: end zone when he was going down. Think about that 691 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: he was falling down to the ground defect that he 692 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,439 Speaker 1: kept his eyes down the field and made that kind 693 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: of throw to Travis Kelcey in a critical situation, allowing 694 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs to win that game. It's stunning 695 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: to me, once again, how many great decisions he makes, 696 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: but how many times it's to Travis Kelsey. Paul, that 697 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: is not an accident. We have seen that here with 698 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and Trey McBride. The chemistry that they have 699 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: built between each other, it's something that is real, it's tangible. 700 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 1: And Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelcey, they have that chemistry. 701 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 5: Again, protect the football. You realize since Week twelve, somebody 702 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 5: put this out there have been two hundred and eighty 703 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 5: turnovers in the NFL collectively, the Kansasity Chiefs have committed 704 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,879 Speaker 5: zero of them. Come on Cardinal season ticket holders, visit 705 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 5: Aisycardinals dot com slash tickets to get all your info. 706 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 5: We're gonna preview the NFC Championship next on show number 707 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 5: seven hundred of the Big Red Rage. 708 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 3: Fourth down and eleven, Stafford takes the snap looking, Stafford 709 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 3: throws to. 710 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: The right side. 711 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 12: It's incomplete, Philip, this is gonna hold up a tenant 712 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 12: for Nacoon. 713 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 3: The celebration starts in the City of Brotherly Love. 714 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 1: Golf will throw over. 715 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 4: The middle and it's intercepted. Jeremy Chin will slide down 716 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 4: at the eighth and slide into the NFC Championship game 717 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 4: with the Commanders. The third interception thrown by. 718 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 3: Golf, the fourth thrown by. 719 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 4: The Lions today and the Washington Commanders are going to 720 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 4: the NFC Championship. 721 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 5: First time for the Washington franchise in thirty three years. 722 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 5: Think about that, Washington in the NFC Championship for the 723 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 5: first time in more than three decades, Philly going for 724 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,760 Speaker 5: the second time in three years, Iron Eagle having Coogler 725 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 5: on the call there, respectively for Westwood One. It is 726 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 5: shown number seven hundred at the Big Red Rage presented 727 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 5: by Santan Ford and Gilbert Paul calvic Ron wollfully of 728 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 5: Pleasure earlier to be joined by Bertrand Barry, and we 729 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 5: heard just sort of the reverence and importance in his 730 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 5: life he has, from going all the way to the 731 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 5: NFC Championship and hoisting up that trophy on stage next 732 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 5: to mister B with a confetti falling, and going to 733 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 5: Super Bowl fifty three and once again wolf is as 734 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 5: we look back at more than two decades of the 735 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 5: Big Red Rage, think about it wasn't just Bertrand Barry. 736 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,800 Speaker 5: It's been Kwame Lassiter as a player host and Kwan Bolden, 737 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 5: Dexter Jackson, Freddie Jones one year combined, Adrian Wilson, Carrie Rhodes, 738 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 5: Kaleis Campbell, DJ Humphreys, Carlos Dansby. I'm I mean just 739 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 5: you know, you know Carlos, he used to do those 740 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 5: cooking videos. He was like ahead of his time. He 741 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 5: was ten years ahead of his time on social media. 742 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 5: You know, he's making his grandma's banana pudding, drinking out 743 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 5: of a cup with his own likeness on it. From 744 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 5: the Cleveland Brown I mean, you know, Los was an 745 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 5: absolute personality on the show. 746 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 1: Lows Dirty Paully, That's what he was right there. And 747 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: what a football player Carlos Dansby was, Yeah, unbelievable. 748 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 5: It just it speaks to the athleticism in the NFL. 749 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 5: When you go into Auburn like Carlo Stansby did as 750 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 5: a receiver, Yeah, and you come out with like Hall 751 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 5: of Fame stats as a linebacker in the NFL. Bertrand 752 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 5: Barry was in high school as a running back ends 753 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 5: up being a Pro Bowl pass rusher. 754 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 1: Right. 755 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 5: So it's just the athleticism you see in the NFL 756 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,760 Speaker 5: is just so remarkable, and I'm not sure people quite 757 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 5: appreciate just the absolute freaks of athletic ability that you 758 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 5: see on the gridiron. 759 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,439 Speaker 1: Well, Pall, that's the way us running backs are. 760 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 12: You know. 761 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 1: I was a running back as well, Paul in high 762 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: school and then they looked at me at college and 763 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: they said, put your hand in the dirt. You're going 764 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: to be in front of the guy that we just 765 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: recruited from. 766 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 5: Florida And yes, Well, if you were one of the 767 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 5: point one percent in the world who played ten years 768 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 5: in the NFL. And now the question is is the 769 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 5: NFL going to belong to Jayden Daniels real soon if 770 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 5: it doesn't already. I mean, he has led Washington's six 771 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 5: straight wins. He's trying to become the first rookie ever 772 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 5: to lead his team to the Super Bowl as a quarterback. 773 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 5: Keep in mind, rookie quarterbacks and conference championship games has 774 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 5: only happened five times, and all five have lost. Here's 775 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 5: the other thing. All five of those rookie quarterbacks had 776 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 5: a top three defense. So it's the defense to carry 777 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,879 Speaker 5: the offense on those teams that made it that far, 778 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,720 Speaker 5: not with Washington doing oh eighteenth in the league in defense. 779 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: No, Paul, Honestly, right now, it is where do you begin? 780 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: The quarterbacks? The quarterbacks for both teams. Jalen Hurts of course, 781 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: who's a little banged up from the Philadelphia Eagles, and 782 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels. Jayden Daniels doing something that nobody has ever 783 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: done or is trying to do that, and that has 784 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,320 Speaker 1: been a rookie quarterback who actually gets to the Super Bowl, 785 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: starts a Super Bowl game, let alone win a Super 786 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: Bowl game. Jayden Daniels, his season has been special. There's 787 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. But Jalen Hurts, here's a guy 788 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:14,280 Speaker 1: that's bearing the yoke of a lot of Philadelphia Eagles angst. 789 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 1: He's the guy that is bearing this with the with 790 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,879 Speaker 1: the Eagle fans the way that they're right they are 791 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,760 Speaker 1: right now, Jalen Hurts has got a lot of responsibility. 792 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: He better play well in this game or boy, it 793 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: could get sideways. 794 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 5: I mean, think about it. Jayden Daniels in two playoff 795 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,280 Speaker 5: games has thrown for a combined five hundred and sixty 796 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:39,439 Speaker 5: seven yards, four touchdowns, no picks. Jalen Hurts just two 797 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 5: hundred and fifty nine yards in two games, two touchdowns 798 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 5: but no interceptions. Yes, and then of course you have 799 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,839 Speaker 5: Saquon Barkley and Wolf. You've talked about it before. I mean, 800 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,720 Speaker 5: Washington's rushing defense in the regular season was not good. 801 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 5: So that matchup against Saquon Barkley, to me, if i'm 802 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 5: dan Quinn and Washington, that scares me probably the most. 803 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 1: No, you're right on it, Pulley right now. Honestly, I 804 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 1: think they're going to run the ball with Saquon Barkley 805 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles. I think they're going to do it 806 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 1: over and over again. If they ran him thirty times 807 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 1: in this game. I would not bat an eyeball right now, 808 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: think about this. In the two games, of course, these 809 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 1: two teams are Division fos played each other twice this 810 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: year in two games. Saquon Barkley rushed for over three 811 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: hundred yards and four touchdowns in the two games they 812 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 1: played against the Commanders. Now, they won one of those 813 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: games and they lost one of those games. It was 814 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: a tight loss, thirty six to thirty three, but still 815 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 1: they won one and lost one. That's why this is 816 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 1: fascinating here. It is the NFC Championship game, and it's 817 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,399 Speaker 1: going to come down to the third time these two 818 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,839 Speaker 1: teams play each other this year. Cannot wait to see it. 819 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 1: But this is a game about the line of scrimmage 820 00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. The Philadelphia Eagles are 821 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: built on the line of scrimmage, and I think ultimately 822 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: that's what wins the game. 823 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 5: Well to your point, I think one of the key 824 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 5: matchups has to be Jalen Carter right, the game wrecking, 825 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 5: wrecking ball of a defensive lineman who had two sacks 826 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,480 Speaker 5: last week, going against that interior Washington O line, especially 827 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 5: now that they're minus probably their best offensive linemans that 828 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 5: guard Sam Cosmy. With that ACL injury that knocked him 829 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,359 Speaker 5: out last week, he has done so. Then again, Jade 830 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 5: Daniels and his athleticism and his ability to extend plays. 831 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 5: You know, I'm guessing though more often than not, he 832 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 5: might be on the move in this game. Whether he 833 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 5: wants to be or not. 834 00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going to be. There's no doubt. He is 835 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,879 Speaker 1: so athletic it is. It is stunning to watch him. 836 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: He's so smooth, but also too Pauli. Jayden Daniels has 837 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 1: made a lot of great decisions. But here's the thing. 838 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 1: He's going up against a pass defense that is number 839 00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 1: one in the National Football League. That's right, number one 840 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 1: in passing yards per game allowed and number one in 841 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: passing yards per play allowed. Also number one defense overall 842 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,760 Speaker 1: and yards allowed per game and yards allowed per play. 843 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,320 Speaker 1: What does that tell you, Paully, I mean, this is 844 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,879 Speaker 1: a team that is excellent not only on the line 845 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 1: of scrimmage, but at the second level and then into 846 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,399 Speaker 1: the secondary that third level as well. They don't have 847 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 1: a weakness. To me, this is an excellent defense, and 848 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,280 Speaker 1: I think ultimately this is where Jaden Daniels is gonna 849 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,399 Speaker 1: have to shine when he throws the ball, and they 850 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:41,280 Speaker 1: cannot just run over the Philadelphia Eagles. That's not gonna happen. 851 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to throw the ball and it's gonna 852 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,880 Speaker 1: be in tight situations and tight windows. Can Jade and 853 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: Daniels make those perfect throws. 854 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 5: It's interesting to hear head coach Dan Quinn he likens 855 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,400 Speaker 5: Jane Daniels. He calls him the terminator because of his 856 00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 5: steely eyed demeanor and avoidance of distractions. He is totally 857 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 5: locked in. Vic Fangio, the defensive coordinator for the Eagles, 858 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,879 Speaker 5: said that Jane Daniels is quote a young quarterback by 859 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:12,839 Speaker 5: birth certificate, not by the tape. And CJ. Stroud after 860 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,360 Speaker 5: the game last week said, you know what, I believe 861 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 5: Jane Daniels has had the best rookie year of all time. 862 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 5: And that's from a guy who had quite a rookie 863 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 5: year last year himself. 864 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:21,800 Speaker 6: In CJ. 865 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 5: Stroud, But again, jayde and Daniels eight hundred and ninety 866 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,240 Speaker 5: one yards rushing this year, the most by any rookie 867 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 5: QB in NFL history. 868 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 1: So go ahead, who do you think wins? 869 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 5: I'll tell you what I still think everyone has underestimated 870 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 5: Jane Daniels. I think he's still an unknown. I think 871 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,879 Speaker 5: there's still a heck of a ceiling. And I'm going 872 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 5: with Washington. 873 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: Okay, Oh wow, Paully, that is bold right there. You 874 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 1: know what, I'm going Buffalo Philadelphia, Buffalo Philadelphia in Super 875 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 1: Bowl fifty nine. 876 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 5: And I would take that just for the sake of 877 00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 5: your bills. But I have a feeling it's going to 878 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:05,320 Speaker 5: be Mahome and Jane Daniels. We'll see special. Thanks bertrand Barry, 879 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 5: former player hosts man what a show Show number seven 880 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 5: hundred of the Big Red Rage Special. Thanks the guy 881 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 5: who's been here through all of it, Jim Almahundro, Executive 882 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 5: producer Ron Wolfley On Paul KELVC. 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