1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 2: Single best idea coming off the FED meeting yesterday. We 3 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 2: made multiple further progress today. I'm keeping entertained hour to 4 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 2: hour greade set of guests. I thought Wendy Schiller of 5 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: Brown University just wonderful on the linkages of the G 6 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: seven meeting back to the other odd meeting of World 7 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 2: War two, the Potsdam Conference of nineteen forty five. At 8 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: that conference, Roosevelt had died, Truman was there, is a 9 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: newly minted president completely different than Fdr Churchill was there 10 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: as Prime Minister, but in the middle of the Potsdam 11 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: Conference he learned he was out of a job, and 12 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: Clement Attley took over. I think Clement Atlee maybe took 13 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: over the middle of the conference. I don't have that 14 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: in front of me, and Joseph Stalin was looking at him, going, 15 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: you crazy guys in the West. Is that any different 16 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 2: than what Amory Horden is seeing in Pulia? The G 17 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 2: seven meeting. They lined up for the photo shoot today 18 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: and they had the guy from Germany struggling. Mccronlooked like 19 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 2: he hadn't slept in a week. The guy from Canada 20 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 2: was there smiling. I don't know where Canada's gone. President 21 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: Biden with his challenges which you know, four against whatever, 22 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: and then bonus round the Prime Minister of England who's 23 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: in a hillatious election battle with labor. Just completely odd. 24 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 2: They didn't even get to Ursua LeVander vander Leiden, I 25 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 2: should say, out on the right side of the photo shoot, 26 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: who's running Brussels and seems to be pretty assured of 27 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 2: a view forward as well. But just just bizarre European 28 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: and politics and how it affects America. Had a great 29 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,559 Speaker 2: show today. Let's go first to this bullmarket. We really 30 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 2: had a bullmarket centric view today. A lot of good 31 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: guests who have been right, they have participated Stuart Kaiser 32 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 2: City Group on big tech a. 33 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 3: Stock here there. Yes, But you know, if you look 34 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 3: to your point big picture, this is not tech bubble 35 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 3: type valuations, right, This is not you know, a tech 36 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 3: bubble type over your skis. This is a small number 37 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 3: of companies generating a massive amount of earnings growth that 38 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 3: are getting rewarded for it. So, you know, are we 39 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 3: above average valuation? Yes? I think if you looked at 40 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 3: the S and P five hundred you'd say you're probably 41 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: maybe even upper cortile, upper decyle. But you know there's 42 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 3: still room to expand. I think if the economy holds 43 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 3: in and we continue to print the type erning's growth, 44 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 3: we are. 45 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: Stuart Kaiser City Group. But thank you to other people 46 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: with different time frames talking about participating. Ted Oakley stopped 47 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: by from Austin, Texas with Oxbo and he's in the market. 48 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 2: He owns tech. He's not buying new tech, but he 49 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: hasn't sold what he's owned, and down at the bottom 50 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: of his research note the gentleman from Texas Tech. It's 51 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: because he's got a five year perspective. How many of you? 52 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: Not me, certainly not Eric. Eric's just trying to get 53 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: the father day with baby Giuseppe. But the basic idea 54 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 2: here is a five year old you're kidding me. That's 55 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: my time frame, Ted Oakley in the markets, participating with 56 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: a time frame out that out that far. What a 57 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 2: joy to have My first read of the summer and 58 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: bread sets her is definitive within academics at the Council 59 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: on Foreign Relations expert on China. What's great about the 60 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 2: terseness of the way he writes is every paragraph is tense. 61 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: Every paragraph It's written almost in a collegiate way. Every 62 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: paragraph has value. His very short, wonderful read on deglobalization 63 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: at Foreign Affairs Magazine. I just can't say enough about it. 64 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: It is a primal scream against some of the mists 65 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 2: of deglobalization. Here bred sets are of the Council on 66 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: Foreign Relations. 67 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: Elon Musk will make decisions that are good for Elon Musk. 68 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: I think we've seen them. The US government has to 69 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: make decisions that are good for the American public. I 70 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: do think in the case of electric vehicles, it is 71 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: appropriate to put some limits on our imports from China 72 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: to allow American electric vehicle manufacturers to scale up in 73 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: the United States to catch up with China. I think 74 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: what people often forget is that China has achieved its 75 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: advantage in electric vehicles not by truly liberal policies, but 76 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: by very active industrial policies. China's electric vehicle industry has 77 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: long been predicted by temper, and China has very strong 78 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: by Chinese provisions linked to its EV subsidies, and it's 79 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: thrown money its battery producers. China's ahead, we need to 80 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: catch up, and I think that's what the. 81 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 2: Administration there's Brad Setser of the Console Form Relations. My 82 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: first read is Summer the Myth of Deglobalization. We had 83 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 2: a bull market tinge today. I mentioned Ben Ladler in 84 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: a tweet earlier today, getting the Markets right in December 85 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 2: of twenty eighteen. That chart is just breathtaking to describe 86 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: it here on this podcast. It's a semilogue chart which 87 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 2: shows percent change and from November thirtieth of twenty eighteen. 88 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 2: It's a very contained trend, very nicely contained when you 89 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: run a regression on it within two standard deviations. And 90 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: we're not extended on that trend. We're above the center line, 91 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 2: we're above the center tendency, but we're not extended. That's 92 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: something we talked to all of our bull market types 93 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 2: today about, including John Stolfus, who's been a bull He's 94 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 2: maybe the first one I heard who whispered fifty four hundred. 95 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: He says he will not go higher until we print 96 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: fifty five hundred. And also Paul Sweet had to bring 97 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: it up. Is great, and John stolf is like legit 98 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 2: country guitar player. He's got some serious Broadway cred over 99 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: the years. And for all of you looking for a 100 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 2: treat for your graduate John Stolfus on Martin guitars. 101 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 4: Well, you know, I go after the custom shop guitars 102 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 4: from there. So I've got a D eighteen Golden Era 103 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 4: that's signed by Yeah. 104 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 2: It doesn't have scallop bracing, it's got traditional bracing right. 105 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 4: Well, you know it has traditional because it's mimicking something 106 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 4: like nineteen forty one, nineteen forty two, and it's terrific. 107 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 4: I think it actually is scallop breast. It wasn't that 108 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 4: the originals. 109 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: It was the original scalop or that. 110 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 4: If it's a custom shop you get the. 111 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 2: Neil Young's nineteen sixty eight, sixty nine, you know, D 112 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 2: forty five. Those weren't Scott and they got that old 113 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 2: Martin sound. 114 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an interesting point. 115 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 2: I can tell you this. 116 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 4: I've I've owned a D twenty eight that I bought 117 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 4: in the probably about nineteen eighty two for Manny's when 118 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 4: it was still in business. Yeah, great guitar. And later 119 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 4: on I bought a D twenty eight that was Brazilian 120 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 4: rosewood from the factory of Reproduction. 121 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: And I tell you the. 122 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 4: Truth, that D eighteen with Indian rose rud from the 123 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 4: seven in the eighties was a better guitar. 124 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: That's great. Where else are you going to get this? 125 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 2: John Stulfus a Opko, Oppenheimer and Company. I think he 126 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: owns forty seven guitars. I just lie, Eric, you know, 127 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: I just how much did that cost? I just moved 128 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: to death some whole point. You know, It's like that 129 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: was one hundred It was five hundred and forty nine 130 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: dollars here, And you know something, I guess I'll have 131 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: to sell them. John Stulfus on Martin Guitars. We're going 132 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 2: to finish strong for the week and into next week 133 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 2: as well. We mentioned it once suddenly June thirty, beckons 134 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: window dressing. Maybe that's what's driving big tech higher on 135 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 2: Ample Podcasts, Single best Idea