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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program that brings you

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Speaker 1: inside NRG Stadium. It's Texans All Access. Mark Vanderman or

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Speaker 1: John Harris with you. We're gonna have some fun tonight.

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Speaker 1: And also later on in the show, DP City is

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Speaker 1: gonna catch up with an expert from Georgia on some

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Speaker 1: of the Georgia players that are available in this draft.

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Speaker 1: And draft is a huge topic right now. Of course,

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Speaker 1: with the Texans acquiring seven hundred picks in the next

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Speaker 1: three years, I just feels like that. But it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a lot of selections, and in this very building

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Speaker 1: they are working on it right now, trying to figure

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Speaker 1: and of course situations that will come up that will

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Speaker 1: not even be presented to them until draft weekend or

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Speaker 1: slightly before it. Johnny good evening. It's an exciting tap

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Speaker 1: of here, no doubt about it. Well, it definitely is.

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Speaker 1: And I know that my friends from A and M

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Speaker 1: will tell you, Hey, John, anytime you could take a

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Speaker 1: trip to God's country, it's always a good thing. That's

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Speaker 1: what I did today. Although I will say, Mark, starting

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Speaker 1: worst thunderstorms I've ever gone through. Is not not easy

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Speaker 1: and not fun. But yeah, But I got down to

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Speaker 1: A and M today and had a chance to go

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Speaker 1: check out the prospects at A and M, which is

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Speaker 1: always it's always a blast, and I saw all of

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Speaker 1: our guys down there. I saw Nick of course, he

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Speaker 1: listen to. As I was driving and I was like, man,

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Speaker 1: I wonder if Nick is on the same road I

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Speaker 1: am right now as he's doing this interview. And he was.

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Speaker 1: He was on the exact same road because we were

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Speaker 1: both going to college station. Suck coach Smith that she

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Speaker 1: has talked to love you for a little bit, So

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Speaker 1: that was fun. Then saw our scouts, saw James Lipford,

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Speaker 1: Director of College Scouting, which I think it's assistant director

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Speaker 1: of Personnel. I think is his official title. But lipp

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Speaker 1: knows it, man, he is, Oh, He's all about it.

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Speaker 1: And a M pro day is always interesting because I

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Speaker 1: think back to twenty fourteen when before I had gotten

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Speaker 1: see a M pro day and Drake is blaring from

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Speaker 1: the speakers. President Bush has driven in in the golf

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Speaker 1: got his dog. There are people everywhere, and Johnny Manziel

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Speaker 1: comes in and puts on puts on his show, and

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Speaker 1: I was actually talking to I was talking to Coach

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Speaker 1: one of the last times I was here was And

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Speaker 1: when everybody mentions that event, the first thing they mentioned

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Speaker 1: him thinking, yeah, yeah, you know, Mike was there. And

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Speaker 1: then I realized, oh wait a second, Lovey drafted Mike

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Speaker 1: him after DAWNA mean, I was like, oh yeah, coach,

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Speaker 1: you drafted Mike Evans, didn't you. So that was kind

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Speaker 1: of cool to kind of sit and reminisce a little

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Speaker 1: good to be down there, and maybe there'll be an

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Speaker 1: Texans this year. Well there are some attractive ones, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about the Georgia players, and I

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Speaker 1: know we're going to talk about all these prospects. Johnny

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Speaker 1: in the next few weeks. We've talked about some of

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Speaker 1: them already, but let's just backtrack here because I think

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Speaker 1: that it's very exciting after yesterday's news that you get

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Speaker 1: of flexibility, a whole lot of options for Nick Cassario.

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Speaker 1: He can do a lot of different things with these selections.

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Speaker 1: And I think there should be a prop bet board.

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Speaker 1: I know Sean pennigas he's built for this Johnny. Likelihood

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Speaker 1: So he's shown us a few things so far from

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Speaker 1: last year's draft, where he ended up with five selections.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what he's gonna end up with now,

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Speaker 1: but he's got eleven picks in this year's draft. Well,

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Speaker 1: something that I think we all do. You know the

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Speaker 1: people that do this in the media, and you know,

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Speaker 1: myself and all of us that talk about it, you're

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Speaker 1: I say that all the time. I love that guy.

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Speaker 1: I love that guy. Nick made a really good point

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Speaker 1: emotion out of it. You've got to take the emotion

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Speaker 1: he said, But the trades on draft day are driven

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Speaker 1: by players, players that you know teams want. I think

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Speaker 1: Saints really wanted Marcus Davenport. The Saints traded up with

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Speaker 1: I think the Packers to go get Marcus Davenport. That

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Speaker 1: On Draft Day, there's always a player in mind. And

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Speaker 1: so when I think back to last year when the

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Speaker 1: who'd they go get. Well, they had their eyes on

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Speaker 1: Nico Collins. They were excited about that player. But one thing,

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Speaker 1: the thing that Nick said that really kind of got

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Speaker 1: maybe we can move down and we can get one

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Speaker 1: got to just what is this other tiep call me for?

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Speaker 1: is Malik Willis the quarterback from Liberty. I'm seeing more

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Speaker 1: Willis that at number three in a draft that we

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Speaker 1: and say, oh, well, the Commanders are given this and

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Speaker 1: some conversations about some things. Maybe that's when you pick

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Speaker 1: figure that thing out. Look, you brought this up, so

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Speaker 1: let's go on this road. We're just talking here. What

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Speaker 1: would your level of surprise be if the Texans actually

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Speaker 1: took a Malik Willis at number three overall? And how

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Speaker 1: would that play out? Because people ask me that, why

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Speaker 1: would you eliminate the prospect of quarterback? Now? They have

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Speaker 1: not done this. They have not eliminated any possibilities whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: They've been supportive of Mills Mills as the guy Mills

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Speaker 1: No one's putting Mills in the Pro Bowl. People are

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Speaker 1: I think even if you drafted a Malik Willis, you're

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Speaker 1: not saying that he would start day one either. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it's a developmental thing. Maybe he would be ready. I

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Speaker 1: You're right about Detroit. That's an ideal spot right there

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Speaker 1: I've been asked that question mark about number three and

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Speaker 1: Malik Willis, and this was I think after the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I think Ron asked me that. Ron Huge we asked

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Speaker 1: But you know what, I'm never surprised by anything that

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Speaker 1: it pertains to quarterbacks, and especially a guy that's uber

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Speaker 1: talented like Malik Willis. Now there's there's a reason that

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Speaker 1: he hasn't been thought of as a top three, top

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Speaker 1: to work through. But man, this dude is really talented,

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Speaker 1: really talented. And of course everybody loves watching Pro Day

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Speaker 1: and seen him throw seventy five yard dimes and he's

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Speaker 1: really see it. But his playmaking ability that's really exciting.

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Speaker 1: It's a guy that I could I could absolutely see

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Speaker 1: him play at number three, be on a shadow of down,

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Speaker 1: I could see him play at number three. I just

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Speaker 1: don't think the Texans will end up doing it. I

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Speaker 1: just don't think that that'll happen. But knowing that he

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Speaker 1: gonna attract some teams to come and take a look

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Speaker 1: what's it gonna take to get the number three so

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Speaker 1: we can go get this guy one more thing, Johnny

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Speaker 1: Marlon Mack reportedly visiting today your thoughts on what Marlin's

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Speaker 1: got left in the tank to help a football team, Well,

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Speaker 1: that you, brother, there, you hit it right. There's what's

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Speaker 1: left in the tank. I mean, obviously injuries have heard

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Speaker 1: main reason was Jonathan Taylor was was the guy and

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Speaker 1: that playoff game, man Marlon Mack took that thing over,

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Speaker 1: with eleven selections in the twenty twenty two Draft getting

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Speaker 1: Jac first of all, thanks so much for joining us,

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Speaker 1: versatility of his athleticism there. But what that kind of

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Speaker 1: translates to as his position is being able to not

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Speaker 1: only use his size to take on blocks, but also

433
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Speaker 1: you know, ranging right, chasing guys down. He was one

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Speaker 1: of the best tacklers on the team. I mean, he

435
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Speaker 1: doesn't miss tacklers because he has that speed in the size,

436
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Speaker 1: in their reach to get guys and once he gets you,

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Speaker 1: you're going down it. Also, he had two pass breakups

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Speaker 1: this year as well. Georgia dropped him in coverage every

439
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Speaker 1: now and then when we do a lot of stunts,

440
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Speaker 1: so you're gonna send your linebackers and you're gonna drop

441
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Speaker 1: maybe a three four defensive end like Trayvon Walker. So

442
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Speaker 1: he's dropped before as well. And we know from those

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Speaker 1: drills in his forty the way he can move, the

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Speaker 1: way he could bend at the knees as well in

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Speaker 1: those drills that he can drop back and cover running

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Speaker 1: back if he needs to, or maybe you know, flash

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Speaker 1: and cover a tight end over the middle if he

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Speaker 1: needs to. You can use him in multiple ways. I

449
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Speaker 1: think that's, like you said, one of the biggest parts

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Speaker 1: of his game. Athleticism makes him a Swiss Army knife.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned the championship run and some of the big

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Speaker 1: games that he had last year, but in your time

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Speaker 1: covering him, what's a memorable game or a moment or

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Speaker 1: a matchup of Trayvon Walkers that really stands out in

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Speaker 1: your mind. I know, he had those seven QB pressures

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Speaker 1: versus Alabama. He had another really good game against Clemston,

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Speaker 1: which was big, and that was the first game of

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Speaker 1: the year, so you're coming out, emotions are high. You know,

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Speaker 1: you're not necessary eli in game shape yet, so it's

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Speaker 1: a big game for guys to kind of gaze where

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Speaker 1: they're at heading into that. And for him, it was

462
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Speaker 1: that final season he was going to head of the draft,

463
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Speaker 1: you know, barring any injuries. He came out and he

464
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Speaker 1: played great and it was a tough, tough game. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you remember, but it was ten to

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Speaker 1: three end of the score. Georgia won by a touchdown,

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Speaker 1: but it was back and forth, a defensive battle. Both

468
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Speaker 1: offenses really had trouble. But you look back and it

469
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Speaker 1: was a top five defense for both teams, Clemsons and Georgia,

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Speaker 1: which is probably a big reason why. But you know,

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Speaker 1: at the biggest moments, you know, Trayvon Walker gets that

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Speaker 1: sack versus DJ towards the end of the game and

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Speaker 1: really helped close that game out for George. And like

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Speaker 1: I said, it was just a touchdown difference, so that

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Speaker 1: that game was huge, and you know, Georgia went on

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Speaker 1: to win a national championship. But I just I think

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Speaker 1: the way he was able to play really well and

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Speaker 1: in a clutch moment, you know, get that to sack

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Speaker 1: versus DJ against a really good team in Clemson and

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Speaker 1: a guys and a bunch of NFL guys on that

481
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Speaker 1: team as well. So I think his performance there, and

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Speaker 1: then he'd pair that with Alabama and those seven quarterback

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Speaker 1: pressures against and you get those quarterback pressures versus Bryce

484
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Speaker 1: Young and it's something to say he gets rid of

485
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Speaker 1: it so quickly, right, So I think those are really

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Speaker 1: two that stand out to me. All Right, what about

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Speaker 1: his personality? What's he like off the field? I mean,

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Speaker 1: how much did you get a chance to get to

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Speaker 1: know him and what's his personality like? Yeah, so I

490
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Speaker 1: mentioned a couple of games he was able to be

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Speaker 1: captain for Georgia, which is big when you Kirby Smart.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't get those to everybody. He really expects a

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Speaker 1: lot out of his senior leaders. So you know, Treyvon

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Speaker 1: getting two of those games this year, I think points

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Speaker 1: to a good place in his personality and his accountability

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Speaker 1: as a leader and a player. You know, I haven't

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Speaker 1: heard of any issues that any of the coaches had

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Speaker 1: with him during his time. He's always been a kind

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Speaker 1: of lower emotion guy, you know, keeps to himself. But

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Speaker 1: he's a leader by example, right because you know, we

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Speaker 1: saw him, you know, play really well in these clutch moments,

502
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Speaker 1: and guys look up to him, those guys who are

503
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Speaker 1: underneath and playing like Chamel Warthor he's he's gonna come

504
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Speaker 1: in next year and take that place from Treyvon. You know,

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Speaker 1: that him in his mentorship for him, I think has

506
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Speaker 1: really played dividends. Because I've heard nothing but good things

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Speaker 1: this offseason from Trammel about trey Von. So I really

508
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Speaker 1: think he's in a good spot to you know, as

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Speaker 1: he enters in NFL and and you know, coming from

510
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Speaker 1: those Georgia practices and a lot of good leadership they

511
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Speaker 1: have here at UGA, I think he's in a good spot.

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Speaker 1: I really do. So what about I know there's so

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Speaker 1: many players from Georgia that are going to be drafted

514
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Speaker 1: this year. It's just such a talented team. You know,

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Speaker 1: if there are one or two players that really stand

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Speaker 1: out in your mind that you think could instantly become

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Speaker 1: contributors on an NFL team. Who would those be that

518
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Speaker 1: maybe Texans fans should look out for. You know, he

519
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Speaker 1: has been talked about a lot in the combine process.

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Speaker 1: I know he didn't run na Kobe Dane to me,

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Speaker 1: stands out so much. I don't know why he's not,

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Speaker 1: you know, talking more about a top ten pick. I

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Speaker 1: can see him going to top ten easily, just because

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Speaker 1: he is the Buckets Award winner last year best linebacker.

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Speaker 1: He won it in high school. He had over a

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Speaker 1: four point o GPA here at Georgia and the way

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Speaker 1: he can range, and we saw it in against Florida especially,

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Speaker 1: go back and look at that game. I mean he's

529
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Speaker 1: running sixty yards across the field and taking a running

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Speaker 1: back out five yards in the flat just from a play.

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Speaker 1: He diagnosed the vocal leader by far of this Georgia

532
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Speaker 1: defense the last two years. He reminds me so much

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Speaker 1: of Roquan Smith. If we remember, just in Georgia's national

534
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Speaker 1: championship run in twenty seventeen, when he was coming out.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's been knocks thro out his size. You know,

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Speaker 1: the same knox happened to Roquan Smith and he was

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Speaker 1: coming out and Rokuans even one of the best young

538
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Speaker 1: linebackers in the league. So, NA, Kobe Dan is one

539
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Speaker 1: to keep your EyeT on. I think he's Day one

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Speaker 1: contributor as a rookie, I really do. He does not

541
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Speaker 1: miss tackles, he could diagnose plays. I'm interested to see

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Speaker 1: what he runs on his pro day. I think he's

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Speaker 1: going to really surprise people in that forty in his

544
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Speaker 1: quickness and his short range quickness as well. So that's

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Speaker 1: one player to look But as you said, there's so

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Speaker 1: many I can maybe choose from a Lewis scene at

547
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Speaker 1: Safety's another one that really stands out to me, another

548
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Speaker 1: guy who just doesn't miss tackles and really can range.

549
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Speaker 1: He ran a great forty. That was a knock on

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Speaker 1: him coming in to the combine, but he ran under

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Speaker 1: a four to five. I think it was four or

552
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Speaker 1: four three. I want to say it was a four three.

553
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 1: He ran in the four three range. So it was

554
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Speaker 1: a great combine from Lewis as well. So but yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys that choose from here. All right,

556
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Speaker 1: looking forward to it, it's JC Shelton covers Georgia Bulldogs

557
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Speaker 1: for UGA five and You can also catch his podcast

558
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Speaker 1: UG Football Live with JC Shelton. Jac, thank you so

559
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Speaker 1: much for the time. I'm looking forward to seeing where

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Speaker 1: all these Georgia Bulldogs land. Thanks DP. Yeah mean as well.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna it's gonna be a fun draft. There's DP

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Speaker 1: City with JC Shelton of Georgia Wire. Coming up on

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Speaker 1: Texans Radio, Travis Johnson, Oh, where are They Now? Which

564
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Speaker 1: you could find on the website Houston Texans dot com

565
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Speaker 1: or the Texans App. Good conversation with former first round

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Speaker 1: draft Joyce Travis Johnson from two thousand and five out

567
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Speaker 1: of Florida State. Drew Doherty checks in with him next.

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Speaker 1: I'm Texans Radio. It's Texans Radio, you know. On the

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Speaker 1: website Houston Texans dot com and the Texans App. We

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Speaker 1: have a section called where are They Now? On former

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Speaker 1: Texans players, we call them legends. That's part of an

572
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Speaker 1: NFL program a former players. Travis Johnson, first round draft

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Speaker 1: choice two thousand and five. We wanted to catch up

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Speaker 1: with him and this interview you might have seen it

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Speaker 1: on Texans three sixty on the website a little bit,

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Speaker 1: but let's listen into some of it. As Drew Doherty

577
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: catches up with the former Texans defensive lineman Travis Johnson.

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Speaker 1: First things first, where are you these days? And what

579
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Speaker 1: are you doing? Man? I'm still in Missouri City with

580
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Speaker 1: my family, hanging out doing ambassador stuff and legs and

581
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Speaker 1: stuff for the Texans. Man. I'm just being dad. Really.

582
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Speaker 1: My wife drags me around in our van all the time.

583
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Speaker 1: It takes me from place to place with our children.

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Speaker 1: We just got back from Louisiana late last night for

585
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Speaker 1: a softball tournament late Charles. So it's it's constantly a

586
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Speaker 1: full day, man. But I'm excited, man, and I'm just

587
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: I'm happy to still be around. Man. Every day you

588
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 1: find out another one of your teammates in pass. So

589
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Speaker 1: it's just wonderful just to be seen, Amen, And it's

590
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Speaker 1: always good to see you. You've made the joke before

591
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Speaker 1: you have a few kids. I have a few kids,

592
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Speaker 1: and you joke that we've been fruitful and we've multiplied.

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Speaker 1: But you've got four children? Is that five? You've got five?

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Speaker 1: I've got five one of the age ranges boys, girls,

595
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Speaker 1: And what's the oldest, what's the youngest. How's that work?

596
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: Three girls, two boys? Okay? Sixteen fifteen, fourteen, twelve and ten.

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Speaker 1: They are awesome, man, they are really are awesome. I

598
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Speaker 1: can't complain. Brother, I have wonderful kids. My two oldest

599
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Speaker 1: are National Honor Society kids. They are top ten percent

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Speaker 1: of their class, so I'm so excited about that. My

601
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Speaker 1: three youngest are all phenomenal students, phenomenal athletes. My son,

602
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Speaker 1: he's still adding that a grossper yet, but he's about

603
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Speaker 1: five nine hundred seventy pounds. You know, he wants to

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Speaker 1: play tidy and I'm like, you don't want to play

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Speaker 1: tidy ins, What do you wanted to play? I mean

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Speaker 1: old line d line man, to be honest with you know,

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Speaker 1: I just think longevity and you know you cantrol your

608
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Speaker 1: own destiny man playing those distes. You play tight end

609
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Speaker 1: and you messed around. I have a terrible quarterback man,

610
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Speaker 1: never get the ball to be the best day of

611
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: tight end in the world has never seen when it

612
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Speaker 1: was all said and done, because your quarterback could never

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Speaker 1: get you the ball. How much coaching are you doing? Well?

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm just, uh, I don't. I don't really

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Speaker 1: coach anymore. Uh, but I mean I coached him every day.

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Speaker 1: It's being a parent, you know, And That's the biggest

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Speaker 1: thing for me is you know, with Travis and when

618
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Speaker 1: he was younger, I coached him a lot, you know,

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Speaker 1: and um, I kind of I kind of watched as

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Speaker 1: he as he started to kind of tune me out,

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Speaker 1: you know, in my ears, I mean in his ears right,

622
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Speaker 1: and going one and out the other. So I kind

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Speaker 1: of changed up the strategy with the with the next

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Speaker 1: two and was like, you know what if I just

625
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Speaker 1: talked to them when they're home, or I'll record their

626
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Speaker 1: stuff and then we'll watch it together and we'll get

627
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Speaker 1: I'll give them feedback, it'd be a lot different than

628
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Speaker 1: me yelling at them in the moment. Yeah, and it is.

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Speaker 1: It has worked wonderfully because the two the two babies

630
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Speaker 1: have you know, they've blossom, They've they've they've they've they've

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Speaker 1: understand it. They have took the feedback, they took the criticism,

632
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Speaker 1: and you know, they continue to try to get better

633
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Speaker 1: all the time. And I love it, man, I love

634
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Speaker 1: every minute of it because I'm watching it happen. From

635
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Speaker 1: being a guy to step back and say, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I can't do this anymore. I don't I don't want

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Speaker 1: you to stop listening to them and I gotta figure

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Speaker 1: out another way. So that was pretty cool. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's really interesting you talk about that, because we've done

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Speaker 1: a few of these now, and it's a common refrain,

641
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Speaker 1: whether it's children of former NFL players or just children

642
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Speaker 1: of your own children, and they don't listen as much

643
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: to their parents as they do to their actual coaches.

644
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: They kind of tune out. So it's cool that you

645
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: have found a way to connect with them and get

646
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: them to listen to you. Oh yeah, man today. You know,

647
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: for some reason, they don't. They feel like we don't

648
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: know anything, you know, Like, no, I wasn't. I wasn't

649
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: the one percent of the one percent, right, Like I

650
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: had to tell Travis is due. I'm not gonna lie

651
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: to you. You know what I'm saying. I'm not gonna

652
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: tell you you're doing something that you're not doing, you

653
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: know what I mean, because I'll be like a son.

654
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: Uh in your stands you you know, you were a

655
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: little crooked here, your knee was out this way. No

656
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: it wasn't, No, it wasn't. I'm like, dude, I'm watching it.

657
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? I see it right here,

658
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: look at this. And then he's like, but the rest

659
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: of them is like, okay, okay, okay, I fixed it.

660
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: I fixed you know what I'm saying. For him, it'd

661
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: be no, no, you're wrong, you're wrong. How did you

662
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,719
Speaker 1: do it? Like, I'm like, all right, dude, and like

663
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: you got it. You take it, go with you. I

664
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: like that we are able to get a little that

665
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: we were able to change it up a little bit.

666
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: And now all of them kind of see it, you know,

667
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: even the two oldest. And I gotta tell them. I'm like, dude,

668
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: I don't take y'all to the gym to punish you.

669
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: I don't work you like I worked in my secretary.

670
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I feel like the more

671
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: you work, the better they get. Everybody's like, oh, you

672
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: gotta give them a break. No, they play sports, they

673
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: play different sports all year around. They go to practice

674
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: of one day, they might work out the next day.

675
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: Everybody why, I'm like, well, I got three girls. The

676
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: more they're working, the more likely boys ain't coming around

677
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: up right. Yeah, it's you your multi prong approach. That's great.

678
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: So for me, we don't work man. You know, it's

679
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: just you know, I work them because I know the

680
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: more they work. The better they get. They don't realize.

681
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: I'm also just keeping them out of trouble. Man. I mean,

682
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: as long as they know this is how you live life.

683
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: You get up, you're gonna work out, you work, you

684
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: work for, you work for your for your goals. And

685
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: then they see it differently. Now that's brilliant. That's brilliant.

686
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: I like it. You just said the one percent of

687
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: the one percent. So let's rewind. You grew up in

688
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: southern California, you go to Florida State. Tell me about

689
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: draft day when you get picked in the first round

690
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: by the Houston Texans back in two thousand and five.

691
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: What was that like? Man, it's you know, it's kind

692
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: of funny, Drew. You know, I've told us start a

693
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: few times. I've heard it. Yeah, but I want draft day.

694
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: I'm on the West Coast and I'm trying. I trained

695
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: out there the entire draft process to go home. You know,

696
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: my agent was from around the corner, Gary was Shard.

697
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: He lived in west Lake. I lived in Oak Park.

698
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: So I'm staying on my parents. I got a condover.

699
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: I'm staying at my parents' house that day. And because

700
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, we're gonna get up. We'll have

701
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: a party. But I'm still my body still wakes up

702
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: on Florida time like clockwork. Yeah. So you know the

703
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: draft at the time, you know, it didn't start until well,

704
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: I want to say that eleven o'clock, ten o'clock West

705
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: Coast time maybe, and which is you know, which is

706
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: one o'clock Florida times. I'm up early and I'm dressed.

707
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, when are we gonna get started? The

708
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: longest morning of your life? Oh yeah? And then you

709
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 1: remember back then Drew, each pick was like twenty minutes,

710
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: twenty five And for those that are not familiar, the

711
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: draft was on Saturday and Sunday didn't start Thursday night

712
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: yet it Saturday, Sunday, long long days, long day. So

713
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: it was I remember the draft started at ten o'clock.

714
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: I got picked at like two o'clock maybe three, yeah,

715
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,959
Speaker 1: maybe three or even there probably three mind you know, guys,

716
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: I was pick sixteen. And it was like hours, like

717
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: real hours, like four or five hours in the draft.

718
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: It went by already. I get on the phone, Carol.

719
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 1: Donald Nelson got on the phone after you know, Dom,

720
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: I was out of Donald talked to Charlie and like, hey,

721
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: would you like to be uh Jackson? So yeah, I

722
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: would love to be. But you know, it was such

723
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: an honor. We are the one percent of one percent.

724
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: Nobody gets to do this. Thousand of us to ever played.

725
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: There's twenty thousand of us living. It's even less than

726
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: that has played over four years. So you can't say no,

727
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: you know, And that's one of the things where you know,

728
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: it just was such a blessing because you know, the

729
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 1: Texas have changed my life. That's why. That's why i'm

730
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: you know, everybody everybody always laughs it, like, man, why

731
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: are you always defending you know the texts? I'm like, dude,

732
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: they changed my life. You know, wouldn't you defend somebody

733
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: who has always been good to you? You know what

734
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: I'm saying. When you defend somebody who money still pays

735
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: your bills. When don't you defend somebody who gave you

736
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: a home when you didn't have a home. When you

737
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: defend somebody who always been righteous with you? You know.

738
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: I laughed because we went to the concert the other

739
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: night for the rodeo. Yeah, I got the only picture

740
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: of of a former player with me and Bob inside

741
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: of his suite man, and that kind of yah. Man.

742
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: It made me smile. I literally was like smiling ear

743
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: to You're like, dude, look traffics still I think you

744
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I loved it, Like I

745
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: was just like, holy, I'm still up. Yeah go. So

746
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: draft it was long. You remember how long it was? Oh? Yeah?

747
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: And what was it like when you got to you

748
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: came to Houston, like the next day, didn't she flew?

749
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: I can't using this day. So this is crazy. I

750
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 1: get drafted. I guess, like I said, it was two three.

751
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly what time it was, right, but

752
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: Carol died on Nelson, who used to be our travel lady.

753
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,919
Speaker 1: She still is, yeah, she still is. So Carol caused me.

754
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: It was like, hey, there's a six o'clock flight or

755
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: seven o'clock flight. Is it possible you can get on

756
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: that flight and get here. That was probably the one

757
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: thing I should have said no too, because I should

758
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: have came early in the morning instead of late at night.

759
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: Because I didn't get the party with my family. My

760
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: whole family is at the house. Finally they the party started.

761
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: After I got drafted. You know, I wouldn't have got

762
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: the journal draft. I only had my mother, my father,

763
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: my brother, and sisters around me, and then we were

764
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: supposed to have like a family get together starting about

765
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: five six o'clock. Why do you get to see any

766
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: of them that day? They all partied on my dollar

767
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: drink all my liquor up, and I didn't get I

768
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: didn't get to do any of that. Fairness, though you

769
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: have celebrated quite a bit since you know, I'm a bit,

770
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: you know what, being the son of immigrant, I'm a

771
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: big family guy. We have a big, huge family, and

772
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: I love like I love being around my family. When

773
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: I went back for the Super Bowl this fast year,

774
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: I had tickets to the game, didn't go to the

775
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: game because I wanted to watch you with my cousins.

776
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: And you said Panamanians. Yes, for folks that don't know

777
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: so for for me, like family is everything, you know,

778
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 1: and we we've always been, you know. The first time

779
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: we were apart was when I went off to college,

780
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: and it was like, man, we haven't seen Travis in

781
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: a while, you know, so, but I fly up here

782
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: that night so I get so a matter of fact,

783
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: I go to NFL Network, I sit down with rich Eisen,

784
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: I sit down with those guys because that was right

785
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: down the road from me. On the way to the airport.

786
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: I go to cudamnic Gota sit at NFL Network. I

787
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: leave NFL Network, I go get on the plane. Me

788
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: and my brother, my big brother comes with me. We

789
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: and so we land here. Used to like eat eleven

790
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: fifteen at night and I'm sitting there like I'm thinking, like, Okay,

791
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: we're gonna do a press conference now. And the reason

792
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: why I said no because they were like, oh no,

793
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: it's tomorrow morning. Tomorrow morning. We never read howdy used it?

794
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: You know. I'm like, I could have left it three

795
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: in the morning or anything, not knowing what I know now,

796
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: because I'm like, you could have put me off southwest

797
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: and I would have been more than acting, you know.

798
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: But it was like first class. It was dope, man,

799
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: you know, it was real dope. I remember getting here

800
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: and they had me up at a hotel way out

801
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: by Bush at the time. They had me up there

802
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: that night, and me and my brother was in the

803
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: hotel rooms like hey man, this is this is different.

804
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: This is a change. And uh, you know, did the

805
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: press conference the next day. I met Dom for the

806
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: second time. I met Dom met Dom, talked to Charlie,

807
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: talked to Bobby Greer, all of those guys here, and

808
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: it was just it was such a surreal moment. Man Like, yeah,

809
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: it's like I can't I can't even describe the feeling

810
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: of going that high and all your goals, all your dreams,

811
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: the first part of them coming true, you know what

812
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: I mean. Like it was I remember having on my

813
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: wall like this is where I'm gonna go. Like at

814
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: the time, there's only thirty one teams when I first

815
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: got into, when I first got to count, and just

816
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: as my first little minor goal, I put myself right

817
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: about fifteen. I was like, yeah, I'll go right here,

818
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: just because I didn't want to be I didn't want

819
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 1: to be arrogance that I'm going number one I wrote

820
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 1: down and I walked past it every day for four

821
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: and a half years in school and then to go

822
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: pick sixteen, like it bought tears somebid because I'm like,

823
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, I spoke this into existence, you know what

824
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like I willed my myself and manifest like

825
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: manifestly put work into to get all the things that

826
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: I wanted in life. And I can't I don't regret

827
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: a minute of it, Drew, I really don't. You know

828
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 1: every I didn't I had Offish with a hundred sacks.

829
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: Iud Offish with ten Pro bowls. I'm not going to

830
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: all the fame, but everybody I played with they speak

831
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: highly of me. They talk about what type of teammate

832
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: I was. Yeah, you know, and that's I'm glad you

833
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: bring that up, because you know, I've I've done this

834
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: podcast now for about a year, and I've talked with

835
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 1: guys who were, you know, here in two thousand and two.

836
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: I've talked with guys who are a little bit further

837
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: down the line that got drafted, and you sort of

838
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: are a connector to guys from the beginning and guys

839
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: who were drafted just five six years ago. I mean,

840
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 1: you've got a wide range of You've collected a wide

841
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: range of friends. I guess you could say, um in

842
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 1: all this well, I mean I'm very accessible, Drew, you

843
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I'm and I'm and I'm

844
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: I'm open book. You know, I don't I got a lot.

845
00:40:58,520 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: I did a lot of None of the young guys,

846
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: I was like, I still talk, you know, every blue moon,

847
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: just to to four. You know what I mean, like

848
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: just because I you know, I just as when when

849
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: Cayle and Hannah asked me to be an ambassador, I

850
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: took it seriously, you know. I mean it wasn't for me.

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Speaker 1: I was just going and meeting with companies and all

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Speaker 1: other stuff. It meant to me as being an ambassador

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Speaker 1: far as let the kids, let the young guys know

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Speaker 1: what the standard is, Let the young guys know what

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Speaker 1: it is to be a Houston Texans. Let the young

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Speaker 1: guys know, you know, because around here, you know, it

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Speaker 1: was always about family. You know. It was always you know,

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Speaker 1: it was always about how you go to work, how

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Speaker 1: you go about your work, you know. And I just

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Speaker 1: want to let let them see that, you know, and

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Speaker 1: let them know like this, if there's anything you need

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Speaker 1: to talk about, man, I'm here, Man I want We

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Speaker 1: didn't have any older guys when I got in the league.

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Speaker 1: We were the old guys. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: All the older guys were on the team still, you know,

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Speaker 1: or not in the league. He just was. That is

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Speaker 1: like the Texas can be the Pittsburgh Steelers when we

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Speaker 1: are as old as the Pittsburgh Steelers. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, These guys like myself. It takes the guys

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Speaker 1: like Andre Taste, guys like Earl Mixell taste, guys like

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Speaker 1: all the guys before, like during that, the earlier days,

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Speaker 1: to embrace the young guys and say, this is how

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Speaker 1: we did things here. Yea, we might not have won

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Speaker 1: a lot of ball games, but we had a certain standard.

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Speaker 1: This is how this type of teammate we are, this

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Speaker 1: type of work we go about because you know, one

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Speaker 1: thing is the media to say one thing about me

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Speaker 1: as a player, and because of statistics and all other stuff,

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Speaker 1: but nobody, everybody I played would always say, man, he

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Speaker 1: worked hard, he did everything he's asked to do, and

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Speaker 1: he was just he was just a dog in between.

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Speaker 1: He was a sideline and sideline no seatbelt type of guy.

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Speaker 1: And you knew you could always he had the best

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Speaker 1: ability in the world. He was dependable. Danny still is

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Speaker 1: for Sir Travis Johnson. Great to hear from him and

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Speaker 1: Drew Doherty and know where are they now? Segment here

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Speaker 1: on Texans Radio Thanks to Jase C. Shelton for being

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Speaker 1: on with Dbcity, Johnny Harris of course tomorrow's draft Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, Thank you Austin for producing. Have a

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Speaker 1: great night and go Texans.