1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:00,880 Speaker 1: Can't. 2 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 2: I am six forty. 3 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 3: You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,560 Speaker 4: Mark Thompson here for John Cobelt, who vacations this fourth 5 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 4: of July week. This is a shocking story out of Idaho. 6 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 4: Didn't you think? Two Idaho firefighters ambushed by this gunman 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 4: who lay in wait for them as he had set 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 4: this fire to bring them into this scene. Jim Ryan 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 4: from ABC News joins us with the very latest. I 10 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 4: guess they've identified this guy, hun. 11 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 5: Jim, Well, he have. 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 2: He's a twenty year old. 13 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 5: He lived most recently in Arizona, then moved up to 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 5: Idaho near the Idaho Panhandle where this all happened. 15 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: Wes Rowley is his name. Again. 16 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 5: He's only twenty years old. And now it's a matter 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 5: of trying to figure out why he did this, why 18 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 5: police believe he took these lives, set this fire at 19 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 5: Canfield Mountain there in the Idaho Panhandle, lured in these firefighters, 20 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 5: then opened fire on them with a rifle from some 21 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 5: distance away, hiding in the trees, shot three of them, 22 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 5: killing two. The third was critically wounded but has undergone 23 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 5: surgery in Cortlaine Idaho and apparently is going to be Okay, Mark. 24 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 4: Does this guy leave any kind of trail as to 25 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 4: you know, what his thinking was, Political philosophy, I mean, 26 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 4: all that stuff that you know usually goes into making 27 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 4: up the profile of someone like this. 28 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, if he did. The police are still trying 29 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 5: to track it down and trying to piece it all together. 30 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 5: But investigators are involved in this. The FBI is helping 31 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 5: out with this. We do know that he apparently shot himself. 32 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 5: That's the information I just learned here a couple of 33 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 5: minutes ago from the Kotney County Sheriff's office out there 34 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 5: that this person, you know, he wasn't He was involved 35 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 5: in a gunfight essentially with the law enforcers who were 36 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 5: closing in on him yesterday, and it appears to his 37 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 5: own life with the rifle that he also used to 38 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 5: shoot those firefighters. Now, in terms of searching for any 39 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 5: connections he has with some organization or some thought that 40 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 5: yet has not happened, they haven't found any direct connection 41 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 5: to international terrorism or anything like that. So it's really 42 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 5: a mystery at this point, Mark, what might have driven 43 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 5: him to do this. 44 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 4: I mean, they talked to family members Jim Ryan, and 45 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 4: it was kind of wild because the members of his 46 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 4: family were saying, he actually has a lot of respect 47 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 4: generally for firefighters and for law enforcement. Lssip what they 48 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 4: were saying, you know, And in fact, one I think 49 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 4: it was his father perhaps or maybe it was his grandfather, 50 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 4: sorry said quote he loved firefighters. It didn't make sense 51 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 4: that he was shooting fire fighters. Maybe he got rejected 52 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 4: or something, said the grandfather. 53 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 5: Yep, that's one theory. He apparently wanted to be a firefighter, 54 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 5: and we don't know how far he was into the 55 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 5: process of applying or becoming a firefighter, but yeah, that's 56 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 5: certainly one theory that's floating around out there. There are 57 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 5: all sorts of theories right now. It may take days 58 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 5: before anything firm is really nailed down. 59 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 4: It's just so weird because you know, Jimy he again 60 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 4: reading about him and hearing a lot from his family. 61 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 4: As you say, he grew up in the Phoenix area. 62 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 4: He had his own tree trimming company, and you know, 63 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 4: had tree climbing skills. He was very comfortable in that blaze. 64 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 4: And so when you say that you and who's picking 65 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 4: these guys off from the trees? I guess that's consistent 66 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 4: with that profile. But I guess Ryan mentioning is that 67 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 4: at twenty years old, he had already kind of set 68 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 4: up a business, he seemed to have goals, and then 69 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 4: he becomes, you know, just completely unhinged like this. 70 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, and whether he had some ideology or with some 71 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 5: mental illness just isn't clear. 72 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: At this point. 73 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 5: The whole case is only twenty four hours old, and 74 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 5: it's going to take a lot of investigating on the 75 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 5: part of the FBI and local police to determine that. 76 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 5: And I mean the terrifying part now, Mark, is that 77 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 5: firefighters getting a call to anything, are you going to 78 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 5: be looking over their shoulder? What's going to happen? This 79 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 5: is an urban issue, you have that this happened sometimes 80 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 5: in cities. You know that firefighters, first responders in general, 81 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 5: might come under fire or be attacked as they're out 82 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 5: responding to two different situations. Some are lured there, others 83 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 5: are just they're doing their jobs when somebody gets mad 84 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 5: or does something to commit some active violence on them. 85 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 5: This is this is different. This is in the wilderness 86 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 5: of the Idaho Panhandle. 87 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, great point. 88 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 4: I mean it's something that I guess we in the 89 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 4: big cities always feel as the law enforcement has to 90 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 4: contend with law enforcement or any you know, special services 91 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 4: like first responders, firefighters. But this is this is a 92 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 4: much different setup. Thank you, Jim, appreciate you so much 93 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 4: giving us an update. And I guess, as you say, 94 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 4: it's early on in the investigation. Jim Ryan, ABC News 95 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 4: correspondent joining us live here on KFI. As the suspect 96 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 4: has been identified, and again there's a bit of a 97 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 4: profile being built around him, but it is unclear as 98 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 4: to a motive, you know, there is just speculation in 99 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 4: that area. The other thing I was looking in on 100 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 4: is this Sean Combs trial, you know, the Diddy trial, 101 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,119 Speaker 4: And they really didn't even get it off the launch pad. 102 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 4: The deliberations, I mean again, deliberations beginning today and I 103 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 4: guess they were an hour in debor Mark right, they 104 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 4: didn't even Yeah. 105 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 6: It was an hour They started the deliberations this morning 106 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 6: and then the four person an hour in sent a 107 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 6: note to the judge saying that one of the members 108 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 6: of the jury had some trouble understanding something that the judge. 109 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 6: One of the judge's instructions, well, I mean the judge 110 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 6: said Okay, yeah, you need to follow my instructions and 111 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 6: you got to get back there and continue deliberating. 112 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 4: Oh that was so that simple. There was that straightforward. Look, 113 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 4: I instructed you. If you're having trouble with my instructions, 114 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 4: that's your problem. I get back in there and give 115 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 4: me a verdict. 116 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 6: There might be other details, but basically the judge was, 117 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 6: you know, he was not going to have this ending. 118 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 6: You know, this was you guys got to go back there. 119 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 6: So maybe he gave them some you know, maybe he 120 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 6: explained things better for them to understand. I don't know, 121 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,799 Speaker 6: but the deliberations continued. 122 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: Okay. 123 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 4: I will remind everyone that they've already replaced the juror 124 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 4: in this trial. Okay, early on in this trial, there 125 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 4: was a juror replaced over concerns that the juror was 126 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 4: unclear about his place of residence. All Right, he had 127 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 4: said that he resided in the Bronx, but later made 128 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 4: remarks that he lived in New Jersey, which is outside 129 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 4: of the Southern District of New York's jurisdiction. So it's like, uh, 130 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 4: maybe you shouldn't even be on this jury. And so 131 00:06:54,560 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 4: they've already bounced that juror so anyway, as deliberations continue, 132 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 4: the Diddy trial off to a hiccup. It would appear 133 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 4: with the very latest AI. If you're looking for a job, 134 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 4: you'll be dealing likely with AI. We'll talk about it next. 135 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 4: It's the John Coblt Show. Mark Thompson sitting in for 136 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 4: John on KFI AM six forty. 137 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 138 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 7: six forty. 139 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 4: Just looking at the consistency of the Sean Comb's jury. 140 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 4: The jury comprised of eight men, four women, ages thirty 141 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 4: to seventy four, all of whom have a college or 142 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 4: advanced degree. They heard more than six weeks of graphic, 143 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 4: harrowing testimony about physical violence, degrading sex, and psychological trauma. 144 00:07:54,000 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 4: The US attorney Maureen Coomy, in her closing argument, really 145 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 4: lays it out some in the courage, she said, and 146 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 4: for twenty years the defendant got away with his crimes. 147 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 4: That ends in this courtroom, she said. The uh freak offs, 148 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 4: the sexual encounters that were detailed by his former girlfriend 149 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 4: Cassie Ventura, pretty crazy stuff. I have to say that 150 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 4: I haven't followed it closely, but everything that I've seen 151 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 4: everything that I've heard is pretty gross and pretty intense. 152 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 4: Guys facing two counts of sex trafficking, two counts of 153 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 4: transportation to engage in prostitution, one count of racketeering. This 154 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 4: guy had it all. He was a music mogul, Sean Combs. 155 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 4: That's the only reason that we're constantly having to refer 156 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 4: to him by a different nickname. You know, he was 157 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 4: p Diddy, he was then Diddy, and he started as 158 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 4: Shawn Combs. But these freak offs and these drug fueled 159 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 4: sexual encounters with hired escorts, sometimes lasting nine days at 160 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 4: a time, these are all things that were detailed in 161 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 4: the trial thirty four witnesses testifying against Shawn Combs. By 162 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 4: the way, once you are on trial for this kind 163 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 4: of thing, the nickname thing, I think kind of leaves 164 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 4: the building. 165 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 8: You know. 166 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: I just feel like, you know, you're not entitled to. 167 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 4: The nickname anymore once you've been involved in these kinds 168 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 4: of violent confrontations. So anyway, the intense testimony I mean 169 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 4: from this CASTI Ventura, she was in a relationship with 170 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 4: Shawn Combs for eleven years, so she participated in this stuff. 171 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 4: She said, it was, you know, okay with me, at 172 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 4: first to try to make him happy, but then she 173 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 4: said she felt dependent on drugs to disassociate from it all. 174 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 4: And then, as you know, there was the assault that 175 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 4: was captured on video, and then he tried to buy 176 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 4: out the only copy of the video to suppress the story. 177 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 4: He supposedly paid one hundred thousand dollars to three hotel 178 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 4: employees for that video. He knew that that video would 179 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 4: ruin his career. And now, of course it's not only 180 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 4: his career, but his life and the domestic violence that 181 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 4: informed his life. I in addition to all of these 182 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 4: free coughs absolute insanity. And again, the jury has just 183 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 4: started deliberation and after an hour, Deborah was saying that, 184 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 4: you know, one juror had a problem, so they came 185 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 4: out to the judge. The judge basically said, hey, I 186 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 4: get it. Get back in there and give me a verdict. 187 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 4: You've heard enough. If you're applying for a job, the 188 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 4: presence of AI is insanely prominent. You're likely talking to 189 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 4: AI agents if you're involved in first round interviews. And 190 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 4: I've got a hack for this sort of I think, 191 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 4: but maybe some of you who are involved in this, 192 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 4: you know this hack or maybe this hack doesn't work. 193 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 4: But the stories of people who are involved in setting 194 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 4: on a social network like LinkedIn to show your work 195 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 4: history and to basically reach out to recruiters, you know, 196 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 4: to try to get work the application for jobs, and 197 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 4: this first round is almost completely distinct from human recruiters. 198 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 4: Human recruiters don't get back to you. You get emails, calls, texts. 199 00:11:55,120 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 4: These are artificial intelligence agents. They're called virtual recruiters. They're 200 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 4: the ones who you are likely dealing with, and by 201 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 4: the way, they're the ones who are also reaching out 202 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 4: to you. So when you get an email from a recruiter, 203 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 4: that's not a recruiter, if you will a human recruiter 204 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 4: that saw your stuff on LinkedIn, it's an AI recruiter 205 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 4: that saw your stuff and said, wow, given the way 206 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 4: that we have parameters set down these parameters for the 207 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 4: next hire, this person on LinkedIn might be someone we 208 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 4: want to talk to. And job candidates are running into 209 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 4: virtual recruiters for everything, even conversations that are associated with 210 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 4: what you might consider like an online interview. They have 211 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 4: these large language models, and now AI is to the 212 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 4: point where you can't tell that you're talking to an 213 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 4: AI agent I mean again, now, I'd say it's baked in. 214 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: So you know, if. 215 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 4: You're in the world of job hunting, that you're likely 216 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 4: dealing with an AI agent, at least initially through that 217 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 4: increasingly large talent pool of people looking for work. 218 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 2: But my hack is. 219 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 4: That when assessing various situations that are potential job opportunities, 220 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 4: that you use AI to figure out the best way 221 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 4: to approach AI. If you are going to be dealing 222 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 4: with AI or a human candidate for this matter, a 223 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 4: human contact. It could work for human contact as well. 224 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 4: But you can ask AI, what's the best way to 225 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 4: shape this solicitation for a job given this? That and 226 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 4: the next thing that is to say you put in 227 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 4: the specifics for that job, and you say it is 228 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 4: likely that this solicitation will be reviewed by artificial intelligence. 229 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 2: Tell your artificial intelli legends. 230 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 4: That that AI will help you shape some paragraphs and 231 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 4: that solicitation will be better. I know you're thinking, oh, 232 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 4: I've already got a good solicitation. I've already put together 233 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 4: a good thing. At least give it a pass through AI, 234 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 4: I would say, because you can't tell when you're dealing 235 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 4: with AI. There are virtual recruiters who are used during 236 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 4: this application process, very early in that process, you owe 237 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 4: it to yourself to kind of get AI help on 238 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 4: your own. So that's the situation. Though AI powered virtual 239 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 4: recruiters are doing the interviewing for so many jobs, and 240 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 4: so many candidates never get passed the AI part to 241 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 4: get to a human. I'd say use AI in your 242 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 4: corner too. That would be at least I think a 243 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 4: workable hack. When we come back, a path ahead for 244 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 4: the Republican spending Bill, we'll talk to Steve Roberts, ABC 245 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 4: News is political analyst in Washington. As we continue, Mark 246 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 4: Thompson here for John Coblt. We're KFI AM six forty 247 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 4: live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 248 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 249 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 7: six forty. 250 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 4: It is the John Cobelt Show. Mark Thompson sitting in 251 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 4: for John. You know, we talked about it in the 252 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 4: first hour going through vote rama. What it is, how 253 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 4: it works with this big, beautiful bill. What is the 254 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 4: path ahead? Let's talk to Steve Roberts with ABC. He's 255 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 4: the ABC News political analyst in Washington. I guess it's 256 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 4: been a it's been a pretty busy weekend in Washington 257 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 4: around this bill. 258 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: Oh, Steve, well, it is, and that's a busy day 259 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill that had fourteen votes so far. And 260 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: they don't have any science flowing down here because Democrats. 261 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 8: Are staging performances. They know that these amendments that they're 262 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 8: sending in are not going to pass. But that's not 263 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 8: the point. The point is to set up votes that 264 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 8: they can be used against Republicans down the line in 265 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 8: political campaigns, trying to make them take embarrassing votes that 266 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 8: can be used against them. But you know, the Republicans 267 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 8: have a very narrow room for operating here. They only 268 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 8: have a three vote marchin in the Senate, only one 269 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 8: or two more votes in that in the House. But 270 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 8: the two basic facts of life in Washington relate to 271 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 8: Donald Trump. On one hand, Republicans of no matter if 272 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 8: they disagree with a lot of the elements in this villain. 273 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: A lot of them are do disagree. The Senator Tom tillis, 274 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: a Republican from North Carolina, set over six hundred thousand 275 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: people alone in his state of North Carolina to lose 276 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: Medicaid benefits over the next few years. And there are 277 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: a lot of Republicans is concerned about this, and there 278 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: are other Republicans who are concerned that the bill adds 279 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: too much to the deficit. They ad three point three trillion. 280 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: That's a t trillion dollars to the deficit because of 281 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: all the tax cuts that are in there. The two 282 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: facts remain true. One is Republicans almost everyone still remains 283 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: loyal to Donald Trump, and even more importantly, they fear 284 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. When Senator till Us announced over the weekend 285 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: he would vote against this bill, immediately within minutes, Trump 286 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: is on social media attacking him, threatening to run our 287 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 1: an opponent against him in the primaries. Till Us spotted 288 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,239 Speaker 1: by saying, well, I'm not going to run again, and 289 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: so you can't pressure me. But everybody else is both 290 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: fer They're fervently in favor of Trump and they fear 291 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: Trump at the same time. And that's why, with all 292 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: is said and done, by the end of this week, 293 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: I think this bill is going to pass. 294 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,479 Speaker 4: That's such a great summary of where we are, and 295 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 4: I love the use the Tillis example because it really 296 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 4: does point out the tremendous power in Washington right now 297 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 4: that Donald Trump has and the idea somehow that Tillis 298 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 4: would just tap out rather than deal with the political 299 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 4: headwinds that would then come with having gone against the president. 300 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 2: Again. 301 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 4: It just speaks volumes. So, you know, the one thing 302 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 4: that's talked about. I mean, there are a lot of 303 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 4: things that are talked about around this bill, but one 304 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,719 Speaker 4: of the things is the fact that there was a 305 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 4: Medicaid promise that Trump made sort of. I wouldn't call 306 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 4: it the third rail the way social security is the 307 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 4: third rail of politics, but you know, the defunding of 308 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 4: Medicaid in large measure could be a It's a remarkable 309 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 4: thing that it won't be a political liability for those 310 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 4: involved in this bill. 311 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: Well, a number of Republicans have warned that it will 312 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: be a political liability. Senator Josh Holly of Missouri is 313 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: going to vote for this bill because he wants to 314 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: run for president and he doesn't want to anger Trump supporters. 315 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: You got an outbed page piece of New York Times 316 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. Very interesting. He pointed out. You know, 317 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: back in the eighties I covered the Congress of the 318 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: New York Times and Reagan was president, and Ronald Reagan 319 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 1: would rail against welfare queans and it was a very 320 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: effective argument, and basically you could say, you know, all 321 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: those people who get all of that government money, they're 322 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: not good Republicans, they're not hard work and tax paying Republicans. 323 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: They're shiftless Democrats, and he could attack them with impunity. 324 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: But as Holly pointed out in this outbed, the basic 325 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: structure of the two parties has really changed. One of 326 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: the reasons why Trump won twice was because he made 327 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: significant inroads with the kind of voters who were traditionally 328 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: voted Democratic, working class voters, including the number of Hispanics 329 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: and blacks. And when you talk about folks who are 330 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: lower on the economic scale, that means they depend more 331 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: heavily on government programs, whether it's food stamps or Medicaid 332 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: or other forms of public with assistance. And Holly pointed out, 333 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: he said, today we start cutting Medicaid, we're hurting our voters. 334 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: We're hurting Republican voters. We're hurting people who voted for 335 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,679 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. And that could be a political problem. So 336 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: in the short run, Trump's power is going to push 337 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: this bill across the finish line as best I can 338 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: tell today, But longer term, the warnings of a number 339 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:30,239 Speaker 1: of Republicans could come back to haunt these Republicans if 340 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: you look at the speech that pillis, the senator from 341 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: North Carolina, made yesterday on the Senate floor in which 342 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: he accused Donald Trump of breaking a promise to his voters. 343 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: There are Democratic strategists who are already making TV ads 344 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: and scripting ads using that clip to run against Republicans 345 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: in the next election. So short term win for Trump 346 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: is likely, I think, almost certain, but there are political 347 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: liabilities and vulnerabilities that it could come back to haunt 348 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: Republicans in the election next year. 349 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 4: It seems as though, Steve Roberts, the political game is 350 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 4: a short term game most of the time, and the 351 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 4: Trump game, no question about it, is a short term gain. 352 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 4: I think they're playing for the news cycle, and so 353 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 4: by the time you know, these political landmines begin to 354 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 4: become more evident in the Red States, as you have articulated, 355 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 4: it may it may not matter to certainly to Trump 356 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 4: and to a lot of the. 357 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 2: People who are associated with pushing this through. 358 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: Don't you think, well, that's certainly a fair analysis, you know, 359 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: But let's remember, as I say, Democrats have all this 360 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: videotape that they're going to remind voters in those campaign 361 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: ads of what Trump had done. And look, Trump has 362 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: a vested interest, strong vested interest in maintaining Republican majorities 363 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: in the Congress, particularly in the House, because if you 364 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: lose one House of Congress, his presidency is basically over. Uh, 365 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: He's already a lame duck. He's already serving his second term. 366 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: And so he understands, he's a shrewd political analyst, and 367 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: he understands that if you were to lose either House, 368 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: or the Republicans would lose either House, you know, he 369 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: would just be playing out the string for the second 370 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: half of his second term. So he has a he 371 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: has a deep vested interest in the welfare and the 372 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: success of other Republicans. But you know, he's caught in 373 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: a bind here because you know, the Republican Party today 374 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: is a much bigger party and a much more national 375 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: party than it used to be in the In the 376 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: in the earlier year of the New Deal era and 377 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: the aftermath, Democrats were so powerful because they were a 378 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,719 Speaker 1: national party. But that meant you had a balance northern 379 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: liberals with Southern Conservatives. It was always a balancing act. 380 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: Republicans were a smaller, more regional party, and he didn't 381 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: have that problem. Today there are much more powerful for 382 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: us in American politics, and that means they have to 383 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 1: balance a much broader coalition. And you've got, you know, 384 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: deficit hawks who are against this bill because they say 385 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't cut enough. And then you get the Tillis's 386 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: and Hawley's and others say, wait, our constituents are the 387 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: ones who are going to be hurt by this bill. 388 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: So in some ways, the Republicans are victims of their 389 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: own success. Now that they're a national party with a 390 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: much broader basis support, they've got to do a lot 391 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: more juggling. 392 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 4: That's fascinating, good stuff. Steve Roberts, ABC News political analyst 393 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 4: in Washington. Really great summary of where we are and 394 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 4: where we may be in the future. 395 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 2: I appreciate you joining us today. 396 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: Thanks happy to help out anytime. 397 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 2: Thank you, Steve Roberts. 398 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 4: It's the John cole Belt Show, Mark Thompson sitting in 399 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 4: KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 400 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 401 00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 7: six forty. 402 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 4: The Supreme Court turned down that claim from La landlords 403 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 4: it was related to the COVID nineteen eviction ban landlords 404 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 4: are suing the city. They wanted twenty million in damages 405 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 4: because tenants didn't pay their rent during the COVID nineteen pandemic. 406 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 4: And they say, look, Fifth Amendment says that private property 407 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 4: shall not be taken for public use without just compensation. 408 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 4: In a sense, my property was taken when this whole 409 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 4: moratorium went in. So apparently the Supreme Court, two conservatives dissenting, 410 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 4: turned down the property rights claim from the landlords, saying 411 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 4: that they lost the millions in unpaid rent during the 412 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 4: COVID nineteen pandemic, and they did it without comment. They 413 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 4: said they would not hear an appeal from a coalition 414 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 4: to apartment owners who say that they rent for forty 415 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 4: eight hundred units in quote luxury apartment communities to quote 416 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 4: predominantly high income tenants. Again, they wanted twenty million in damages, 417 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 4: did the landlords, And they said that the cities strict 418 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 4: limits on evictions during that time basically had the effect 419 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 4: of taking their private property. So again they viewed it 420 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 4: as a constitutional right that they be reimbursed. The Court 421 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 4: has repeatedly turned down claims about rent control laws being unconstitutional, 422 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 4: and LA landlords say that their claim was different, that 423 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 4: the city had effectively taken use of their property at 424 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 4: least for a time. But once again the Supreme Court 425 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 4: passed on it, and so LA landlords won't get that 426 00:25:54,160 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 4: Supreme Court consideration. Did you see the lawsuit that's merged 427 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 4: from this detention of the Honduran woman with her she 428 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 4: had two kids. One was six or one is six 429 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 4: years old, I think the other's nine. But they sought 430 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 4: asylum in the US and the son, the six year old, 431 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,959 Speaker 4: and the nine year old and the woman have been 432 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 4: in custody at a Texas detention facility for several weeks 433 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 4: after their arrest. The government has them in an expedited 434 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 4: removal so they're gonna fashtrack their deportation. But the lawyers, 435 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 4: and this is the interesting part, just on the heels 436 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 4: of mentioning that landlord suit, this is another suit. This 437 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 4: is a suit against the US government, lawyers for the 438 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 4: family says. The lawyer for the family says they were 439 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 4: detained as part of the administration's quote nationwide campaign to 440 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 4: summarily arrest law abiding non citizens when they attend their 441 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 4: immigration court hearings. Such arrests are occurring quote at rates 442 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 4: never before seen in the United States. Now, this is 443 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 4: the point they were at court. Therefore, the immigration court hearings. 444 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 4: They were seeking asylum, you know, in the asylum laws 445 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 4: in America. 446 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 2: I would argue you could take a meeting on those. 447 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 4: They should be tightened, they should be chained, they should 448 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 4: be part of a lot of reforms when it comes 449 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 4: to immigration. 450 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 2: But they are what they are. 451 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 4: And they were fleeing their home country of Honduras, where 452 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 4: they quote faced imminent menacing death threats. Now that does 453 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 4: qualify them for asylum consideration in this country. And they 454 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 4: were going through the lawful process. So there they were 455 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 4: apparently met by federal agents who arrested them. And now 456 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 4: they are, as I say, in this Texas detention center. 457 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 4: Now the boy, and this is the part that I 458 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 4: think really complicates things, and it's kind of a bad look. 459 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 4: The boy had been diagnosed with acute lymphoblastic leukemia. He 460 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 4: got that diagnosis when he was three, now he's six. 461 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 4: He underwent two years of treatment. Apparently no more leukemia 462 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 4: cells are found in his blood, but he requires regular 463 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 4: monitoring and medical care. And he actually was being taken 464 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 4: of multiple appointments and has missed a couple of appointments 465 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 4: now as a result of his detention. After attending a 466 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 4: court hearing in La. It was just last month where 467 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 4: the case was dismissed. Federal agents dressed as civilians arrested 468 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 4: the family quote without any prior notice or warning, and 469 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 4: it happened as they left the courtroom. They were not 470 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 4: permitted to leave or make calls. According to the lawsuit. 471 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 4: The six year old, after seeing an agent's gun, urinated 472 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 4: on himself in fear and was left in the wet 473 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 4: clothing for hours. According to the lawsuit, and again, the 474 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 4: family has been at this detention center in Dilly, Texas 475 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 4: since their arrest, and the six year old has missed 476 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 4: these medical appointments because of the family's incarceration. So you 477 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 4: can go on. The six year old has lost his appetite, 478 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 4: experienced easy bruising, occasional bone pain. This is all from 479 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 4: the complaint, looks pale, all of which are recognized as 480 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 4: symptoms of leukemia. Both children cry every night. They talk 481 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 4: about the psychological impact, the trauma, etc. But it is 482 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 4: an ongoing lawsuit. Lawyers are requesting the family's immediate release 483 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 4: for medical treatment. They say they are not a flight risk. 484 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 4: They've done everything the government asked of them, and the 485 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 4: family is suing the Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and 486 00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 4: custom Enfortman So, DHS, and ICE, and the DOJ, three 487 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 4: government agencies with initials that are pretty powerful these days, DHS, ICE, 488 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 4: and DOJ. Also the warden of the detention center is 489 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 4: being sued. We'll see how this all plays out, but 490 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 4: definitely among the higher profile detention cases. Speaking of lawsuits, 491 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 4: the Trump administration is suing Mayor Bass. I'll tell you 492 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 4: about that when we come back. 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