WEBVTT - #394 - Killer Mike 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:04.080 He's up just killing Mike aka Michael Render check me 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:05.760 out on the Bootleg CAF podcast. 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:08.520 Hey, you're about to watch the new interview brought to 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:11.520 you by Blue Chew. Get a month's supply of blue 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:15.280 Choo for free, fellas. That's right, blue Choo dot Com 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:18.800 promo code Bootleg right now, get a month supply for free, 0:00:19.079 --> 0:00:21.440 helping you with that erectile dysfunction with the same active 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:24.639 ingredient as Viagra and Ciallis. But you don't got to 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:26.800 go to the doctor. It's all online and delivered right 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:28.760 to your front door. That's how we're doing things. Let's 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:35.720 get into the interview. Blutleg cab Podcast man special guest 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:40.160 in here mister. Album of the Year yep, Grammy nominated 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:45.160 again right three one time? Last time you got fucking 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:49.360 you got what I'd like to call snubbed. The Jews 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:51.040 got snubbed, that's what they say. 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:53.319 I just I remember being broken, but. 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:55.320 You were, but you were right R T j F 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:58.920 should have been nominated, I think so. Yeah. Yeah, Well listen, 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:02.000 it's all good because Michael is nominated. Killer Mike is here. 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:03.960 Yep, welcome, what's up? 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:06.120 You do have the Album of the Year I have 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:09.560 my list, You're number one. My number two album is 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:11.319 not even a rap album, but I'm gonna do my 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:13.240 hip hop list, but you're number one by far Man. 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:15.440 Thank you. I said that to you too. Yeah, you 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:16.480 know what I mean. That's it. 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:18.760 I know a lot of people just be saying crazy 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:21.160 shit because they've seen it work for other people over 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:24.000 the years, But having had put to work in, I wouldn't. 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:25.800 I wouldn't have bullshit it youself. 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:28.000 No for sure. Now. Yeah, you played me a version 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:31.399 of the album about two years ago in Atlanta, and 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:33.560 some of the stuff made it. Some of the stuff 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:36.640 is didn't make it. But you've definitely. For people who 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:39.280 don't know like and haven't heard you speak about the album, 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:43.319 you describe it as kind of like your Wolverine origin story. 0:01:43.440 --> 0:01:46.039 Yeah, you know, Ronald Jules is very much the X Men. 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:49.760 It's like don County X Men. Any number of characters 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:52.960 will pop up in and out, and you know, depending 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:54.960 on who your favorite character was, you knew their origins 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:57.000 when it came from and stuff. Wolverine had always been 0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:59.880 logan one of mine. Logan I love Magneto is the reason, 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:03.520 part of the reason I named my company villain, Like, yeah, 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:05.200 Magneto is part of the reason I even call my 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:08.560 company villains, because I believe villains aren't necessarily bad guys, 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:10.040 you know what I mean, They just have a different 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:12.440 agenda in terms of solving a big problem. But all 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:14.760 that to say, Run the Jewels man, rest in peace 0:02:14.800 --> 0:02:17.680 to Lola, you know what I'm saying. Gangster Boo, Zach Dyala, 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:21.560 Roca Hami, Ma Staples, two Chinese big boys, all these 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:23.800 people have been a part of them Run the Jewels universe. 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:28.360 And I realized that my character Killer Mike, this bad, 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:31.320 swaggering dope ass him. See that essentially his nine year 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:34.560 old kid named Michael, created and built out of his imagination. 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:36.480 The story of Michael had never gotten told. I never 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:38.720 people didn't know where Killer Mike came from or why. 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:42.040 You know, people interpreted confidence and is arrogance and shit 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:44.560 like that. But you know, when you grow up in 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:47.040 the middle of hip hop, hip hop's you know, been 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:49.080 around fifty years, but it's been given a lot of 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:51.400 a lot of kids, a lot of little boys, you know, 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:54.000 reason to hold they chin up, yeah, swagger. So you know, 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:56.000 I had to realize that I had to introduce myself 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:56.400 to people. 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:59.120 Yeah, I mean because this is your first solo album 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:02.560 since rap music. That's crazy. And for people who don't know, 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:04.360 rap music is really what kicked off Run the. 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:06.320 Jewels yep, yep, it was pre Run the Jewels. 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:10.720 Yeah, And it's crazy to think, like I feel like 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:13.560 eleven years ago was three years ago. 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:14.240 Yeah, it does. 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:17.560 It feels three years ago, but it's crazy, like we've 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:20.240 had a pretty crazy historical run that you've been a 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:22.640 part of an LP and like, you know, I know 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:25.160 you took your time with this project, and I'm just 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:27.880 glad man that, Like the Grammy's got got it right. 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:30.160 I feel like a couple of years ago, like you know, 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:32.520 there was a couple of Grammy nominations that I was 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:35.560 glad to see Royce got nominated and Freddy Gibbs got nominated, 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:38.040 And when they nominated you a couple of times this year, 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:38.880 I was like, thank. 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:41.480 God, well three times three times yep yep, two four 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:44.480 Rap Song of the Year, Rap Performance of the Year, 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:47.280 and Sciences and then at Rap Album of the Year, 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:50.640 and that's what that's what, you know. I ain't gonna 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:52.800 lie want it, you know, I want Rap Album of 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:54.720 the Year because I'm proud to be a rapper. 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:56.520 Yeah, no, I'm damn proud to be a rapper. 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:59.280 A lot of people, you know, they they get rap 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:01.120 Album of the Year and they like, that's a snub. 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:03.440 You know what I'm saying, people have acted as doing 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:05.160 the past, Well, I deserved the album the year. Well 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:06.640 I personally feel like, yeah, I gave you the album 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:08.840 of the year in terms of depth and human emotion, 0:04:09.360 --> 0:04:13.640 vulnerability and vulnerability. I gave you what music is supposed 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:15.480 to give you, whether it's the blues or rock and roll, 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:17.320 or soul or funk or rap. 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:18.120 I gave that to you. 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:21.239 But I care and covet Rap of the Rap Album 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:23.599 of the Year because for the last fifty years, this 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:27.440 has been a driving, you know, cultural force in this 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:30.279 in this country. You know, rap wasn't even my music first. 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:32.200 He was my mom's music. My mom was only sixteen 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.280 if she had me, So the first music I'm hearing 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.400 from her is disco and early rap record you know. 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:40.440 So it matters to me because of what rock Kim 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:42.320 gave to me, Eric being rock Kim, because of what 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:44.719 run mc gave to me, because with Outcasts and Goodie 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.039 Mob gave to me because of what nas first two 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:50.080 LPs especially gave to me. You know, when you start 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.280 talking about Farside, what they gave to me Dale the 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:53.440 hieroglyphic and they gave to me. 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:54.719 I win that award. 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:57.279 I'm going to be the proudest person to have ever 0:04:57.400 --> 0:05:00.280 held that award, you know, because I give a day. 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:02.919 I'm about being a rapper and an MC. This is 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:05.240 not a secondary job. This ain't some shit I did 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:07.560 because I couldn't play sports. This is not and that's 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:09.400 no slight to anyone. I was just too chubby to 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:11.880 play sports. What's your frame of reference, Mike. Some of 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:13.840 my best friends want an NCAA championship with u C 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:16.160 l A. One of my other best friends got got 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:18.640 got drafted to the Buffalo Bills. Most friends radd office. 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:20.679 So I knew, yeah, I ain't gonna be no athlete. 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:22.560 I'm gonna be I'm gonna be the best god damn 0:05:22.640 --> 0:05:25.280 rap out of my friend groupe. So I care, And 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.400 I think that a lot of MCing is based on 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:31.360 these days kind of acting as though you don't care. 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:32.960 But I care. I want it. 0:05:33.040 --> 0:05:35.320 I also think like you have one of the more 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:39.680 unique paths to a Grammy nomination. If you just look 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:42.880 at the way your career played out, like obviously coming 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:45.280 out with Outcast and the whole world is where a 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:49.159 lot of people were introduced to you. Obviously, you know, 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:52.000 your first album was incredible, and I feel like your 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:53.080 first album isn't on. 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:54.920 Spotify or Monster. I don't know. 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:55.840 I don't think monsters. 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:58.120 I still ride Old School, so it's in. 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:00.000 The Monster because I'm pretty sure it's not on your 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:00.760 Spotify account. 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:04.720 I still ride Old School, but no, but it's crazy. 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:06.680 And then you have your grind, your grind time rap 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:09.719 rap ship where you're dropping mixtapes and you're dropping records 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:12.560 like like you're you're really on your ship. I mean 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:14.760 I first heard Peel through You and a bunch of 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:17.400 a bunch of young artists out of Atlanta. I discovered 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:20.919 through those projects. And then Rap Music is one of 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.600 the best rap albums ever in my opinion, and it 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:27.680 kicks off this whole unexpected journey of Run the Jewels 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:32.320 last decade. And you know, in a in a world 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:35.480 in which rap groups, duos, et cetera don't exist anymore, 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:38.760 you guys have thrived in a way that like, really, 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:40.200 it's like y'all in the migos. 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:43.040 Yeah, you know what I'm saying. The rest in piece 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:43.560 of takeoff. 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.440 That's and for you to take all this time to 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:50.400 kind of reintroduce the world to Michael and get the acknowledgement, 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:52.120 get the nod. Man, It's it's just a beautiful thing 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:52.640 to see. Man. 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:53.240 I appreciate you. 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:55.960 I wont it so, you know, y'all, y'all send me 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:58.320 some preyer, some good energy, and hope we moved on. 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:00.280 People hearts on that, you know. Vote for Vote for 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:02.960 the person who, first of all again has put put 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:05.080 together the rap album of the year and beyond it. 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:07.000 I really, I really give a damn about it. 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:09.760 Yeah, and like I always so so like obviously when 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:11.320 I first heard the album, I always wonder a couple 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:13.880 of things, because you and your lady are amazing. You 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:17.920 guys are you know obviously she's She's been talked about 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:19.640 by you a lot. I bet your wife a lot. 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:23.760 She's cool as hell. Big When did you give Shay 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.480 heads up about the summer record, Like, Hey, I'm gonna 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:28.760 write I'm gonna write this song about this X fling 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:29.640 from back in the day. 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:31.600 No, it wasn't my fleeing was my girlfriend. 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:35.080 I don't like, Hey, guys, ball up now, don't just 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:37.880 be be a real nigga about you know what I mean? 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:40.760 And you just your wife was in love with somebody. Folks, 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:43.000 she met you, even if she was eight like you, 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:43.560 ain't one. 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:46.120 Of one count h It's very rare that that actually 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:46.920 is the case. Man. 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:49.720 Your grandparents say they was, but my you know, yeah, 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:52.320 I can now know my granddad, my grandmama was a verge. 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:57.040 I can't tell you my grandfather was, you know, you know, I. 0:07:57.600 --> 0:07:59.240 Such a dope storytelling record. 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.640 Though, yeah, she had already heard the story because we 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.440 talked as my friend of course, you know, so I 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:07.480 think that that it wasn't a. 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:10.000 Need though to say, hey, I'm gonna rap out this. 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:12.520 I think she was just like you finally got a 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:14.760 chance to get it off your chest because it's something 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:17.480 that I've been with and it's been with me, and 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:20.040 it sat with me. And when I played the record 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:22.600 for men and for those who might not know what 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:24.600 he's talking about, that you shouldn't be out there, but 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:27.320 you know, give Slummer a listen. It's a story of 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:30.200 me at fifteen sixteen, falling in love with a girl 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:32.120 who's a year too younger than me, and I was 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:34.760 living like adults essentially for two summers. I'm you know, 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:36.720 I'm thinking I'm trapping on rich or you know, she 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:39.480 in the apartments or subsidized, so they like, we got 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:41.559 many bills, but we live like adults, and and we 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:44.800 get pregnant, and I have to go through the abortion process, 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:48.319 you know, with her paying for it, and man, I 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:50.960 played it for dudes, and dudes wept and they say, man, 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:53.520 nobody had ever expressed how I felt. You know, I 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:55.800 hadn't even been considered that I had feelings. And we 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:58.479 know it's traumatic for the girl, for the woman, absolutely 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:00.640 it is. And they deserved all the seeing, all the 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:02.679 support around controlling their bodies. 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:03.200 They deserve. 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:05.640 But man, them little boys and the men and these 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:07.240 young men that have had to take part in that, 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:10.400 there is no body sometimes to put the arm around 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:12.439 the shoulders. I know that was a difficult decision to make. 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:14.640 And I know it's gonna it's gonna stay with you, 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:16.559 or let me tell you, it's gonna stay with you. 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:18.800 You know you're gonna feel a way about it, you know. 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:21.120 And so I was honored to be able to do 0:09:21.200 --> 0:09:23.080 it in my and my my My wife is glad 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:24.719 I got it out of my chest. You know now 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:25.840 She's like, no, you can stop talking. 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.920 World the story now for you. Man, you have a 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:33.760 lot of vulnerable moments on this album. Obviously A Motherless 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:37.839 to Me is like one that really really stands out. 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:40.719 I know, I want to say, when you played the 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.319 album for people who don't know, you had like a 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:45.959 really cool album listening thing here in l A that 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:48.199 was like a Masonic temple or it was it was 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:49.959 a cemetery. It was a cemetery. 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:51.319 It was a cemetery. 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:56.280 But I remember, yeah, it's like, yo, you're joining the Illuminati. 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:59.840 That's exactly with three. 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:03.720 But no, I know you got really emotional talking about 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:05.319 that director because it's about your mom. 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:08.760 You know. Yeah, my girl, man, Denise, she's she under here. 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:12.640 Her and my grandmother. My mother was sixteen years old. 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:18.319 When she she had me, and you know we just 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:19.120 grew up together. 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:21.880 That was my girl, you know, like that's the first 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:24.080 person that introduced me to rap music. That she was up, 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:25.040 I mean, being sixteen. 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:26.040 She's also kind of your friend. 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:27.640 Yeah, she was like my big sister, right, you know 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:29.840 what I'm saying that's who taught me how to dance 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:31.679 with a girl, right, you know what I'm saying, That's 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:33.440 who taught me how to how to approach a girl. 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:35.640 You like, that's who. That's who taught me how to 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:37.959 take no shit, you know, don't be no sucker. And 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.560 she wasn't no single mom. You know, my I had 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:43.200 two dads, you know, my dad who's biologically my dad, 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:45.959 and my dad she married. I had grandparents that raised me, 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:47.480 grew up in a you know, a man and a 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:50.240 woman household, raising me and my two little sisters. But 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:52.280 me and my mom just shared the special bond and 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:55.960 friendship and kinship. And it was around you know, her saying, 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:57.280 you know, I wish I could be soft throwing you 0:10:57.280 --> 0:10:58.640 about some stuff that you the only boy I got, 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:00.680 so you got to be a man. But at her heart, 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:03.839 she was an artist, so she she encouraged that about me, 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:05.920 you know what I mean. So I just man, I 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:07.439 just I want to I want to lead a life 0:11:07.480 --> 0:11:08.199 that makes her proud. 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:12.080 Sension for you looking at the nominees of Rap Album 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:13.280 of the Year, Yeah. 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:14.320 The Motherless record. 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.680 I'm sorry that record just to say I got emotional 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.920 about that record because because I miss her. So anybody 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:23.560 out there who has a mother, no matter your relationship, 0:11:24.360 --> 0:11:25.920 check in because. 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:26.839 I think we take advantage of this. 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:28.400 My mom. My mom told me, she. 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:31.000 Said, you know, I know you think your grandmother is 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:33.960 your mama because she she raised you. But I'm your 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:36.839 fucking mama. And it's that's kind of conversation had. And 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.040 she said, and when I when I go, you're gonna 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:42.360 understand that. And the day she died, I've never felt 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:46.400 that emptiness. And and I know it doesn't get feeled 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:46.840 and a. 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:49.480 Lot of people don't realize that until that day happened. 0:11:49.480 --> 0:11:49.880 It happened. 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:52.079 Yeah, I didn't shit. She told me, you know, I 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:56.800 you know, I you know, I tied and make all friends. 0:11:56.880 --> 0:12:00.520 I you know, I gotta, I got. I have placed 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:03.200 my house while honor. But with that said, like man, 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:04.520 I wish I could have said it while she was 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:05.040 I get it. 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:07.280 It's such a beautiful song. Really, I mean, that's a 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:09.080 record that I feel like I could have been nominated. 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:09.240 For a Grammy. 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:10.920 It could have been, it could have been, should have been, 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:13.280 would have been. It'd be one day who knows, you know, 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:16.439 now be mixed the album or something. But I just 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:18.800 know that I got to cover it all album of 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:20.719 the Year and an album to live to. 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:22.960 Yeah, I was just saying, who do you see as 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:25.160 if you're looking at the other nominees for Rap Album 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:28.520 of the Year. Yeah, I got my opinion, But who 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:30.800 do you think is the album you gotta worry about? 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:31.679 I don't know. 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:34.079 I just know that I've listened to them all and 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:36.400 I like parts of all of them, you know, and 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:39.160 I respect the artists involved. But what I'm saying is 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:44.079 as as I could sit down Drake and Savage, I 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:48.200 could sit down Nas, I could sit down Travis Metro, 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:51.640 and I could sit down with Metro, said metrosca produce 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:54.400 he put together Mars. I could put those artists in 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:56.960 a room and I could play my album, and something 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:58.920 about my experience in my life is going to affect 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:02.120 all of them off that as in a deeply personal way. 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:05.040 And you know what I mean, Like you know, in 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:08.079 a deeply personal way. And I don't say that to 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:10.280 be in competition with but just saying I made an 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:12.840 album that we all can bleed to. I made an 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:16.079 album that we all understand addiction, We all understand the 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:19.800 precio preciousness of a mother. We all are black men 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:23.160 in North America trying to understand and make our way. 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:26.240 I don't care what color Drake is in terms of 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:28.880 how people argue about this biraciality and shit. Since he's 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:30.920 been coming to America, he knows he's a black man 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:32.719 if he's been in Atlanta, right, he knows he's a 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:34.719 black man if he's been in Houston and Memphis. So 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:38.640 there's something on here for the worker class, the black 0:13:38.720 --> 0:13:41.160 man and the women who love them, for all of us. 0:13:41.360 --> 0:13:43.440 So I believe that if we sat down at the table, 0:13:43.840 --> 0:13:45.679 I could have that argument with those men and say, 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.760 this is why, like amongst the fraternity and brotherhood of 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:51.680 MC's at their table, this is why, this is why 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:55.600 I should and listen to this, and it'll pierce your 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:57.200 heart the same way as piercing the audience. 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:59.200 This or for sure, man, I think it was an 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:02.080 like almost It's like a much needed medicine of hip hop. 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:05.959 It's like somebody actually is making a vulnerable album to 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.160 like live to, not to turn up to, not the 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:08.840 TikTok too. 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:11.080 It's just well, I mean, you can still do it all. 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:13.840 I mean the intro of Dawn by Law made a TikTok. 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:15.560 I was like, God, damn, I'm gonna have to get 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:18.080 in shape. Everybody gym shit was you know, the journey 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:21.640 over talking and and with that said, exit nine, you 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:24.440 cruise to this is record you play in fifty six 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:26.880 minutes later after you drive from here to Pomona. 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:29.320 Man, You've like, I've just had experience. I feel like 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:30.000 I saw a movie. 0:14:30.560 --> 0:14:32.760 This is This is an album where when you clean 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:34.840 up your house, by the time the album in, you 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:37.360 done finished that chore man, your laundry done and folded. 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:39.920 It is a it is a classic album, and. 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:43.080 That it feels good, even the sad parts, even the 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:45.160 parts that make you think about a reminisce on stuff that, 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:46.920 but it makes you feel good. 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:48.280 You feel more human after it. 0:14:48.400 --> 0:14:51.480 So you know, I'm just glad to be the conduan 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:54.040 for that energy, because hip hop deserved. 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:54.680 That in his fiftieth year. 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:57.680 In the fiftieth year here sure. 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:00.320 When people are talking about what sales are down, and y'ad, y'all, yeah, 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:02.440 I didn't. I didn't know about sales in my first ardo. 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:05.040 I just knew I felt something when I heard it. 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:07.400 It made me feel something, and that's what I did. 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:12.200 I'm curious. I first heard of a new Andre three 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:14.560 thousand album when you spilled some beans that you weren't 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:15.040 supposed to. 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:19.920 Spill stone Man, but when you when you revealed. 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:22.080 That and then kind of walked it back at that 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:24.880 moment in time. But you know it was a flute album. 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.440 I have no comment on any of it is I 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:31.160 know if you want to Andre three thousand verse, there's 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:34.000 an album called Michael and it's on the song called 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:36.120 Scientists and Engineers and you should listen. 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:40.120 Have you have you gotten high to the to the 0:15:40.200 --> 0:15:43.800 Andre album because it's a great album to relax, to go. 0:15:43.920 --> 0:15:46.560 How to got Stone? Well, I'm stone here, I'm stoned. 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:48.360 If I'm listening to Metallica, I'm stoned. 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:49.200 But I. 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:53.160 I was curious to hear it like everybody else. And 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:55.920 I play and I smoke and I'm going to probably 0:15:55.960 --> 0:16:01.560 eat some shrooms. It's music I'm proud of. I'm proud 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:04.880 of Dream Big Boy because they are out of a 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:09.200 talent program called Tri Cities High School that also produced 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:13.480 Eskate that also produced KP one of the greatest income 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:16.840 yep I sat the KP KP the great DJ as well. 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:20.520 It just produced some amazing artists and those guys like 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:23.160 I tell you, by keeping an inner child alive, big 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:26.040 boys kept it pushing and going, giving us new styles, variants, 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:29.360 whether it's fan of gram or whatever whatever new. 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:33.400 He's introduced so many artists to us, so many. 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:37.320 I love him and with Dre, Dre just being an 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:41.240 artist in that waiting until he's ready to make art, 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:45.080 to make art and get people interested beyond what they 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:47.160 thought they were interested in. I think it was amazing. 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.320 So I'm very proud of him. I'm very proud of 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:52.760 be you know, cut Master Swift or DJ did all 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:55.320 the cuts on Michael. He's coming back in with us. 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:58.760 We do make more music because he's an amazing trumpeter singer, 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:01.880 so we you know, the Dungeon family lives. Pat Ray 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.040 and Reek still doing beats, like I mean, I gotta 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:06.400 beat on riding around right now. So for me, man, 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:09.840 I'm just I'm proud that that for whatever, for whatever 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:12.119 compels you, he's being compelled to do something. 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:12.840 Mm hmm. 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:13.600 Yeah. 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:18.920 It's crazy because I just had a Victoria uh Jene Monday. 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:21.240 I was Gonnay Victoria name gene Mo name on the 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:23.560 show and we were talking. We were talking about her 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:28.280 her purple ribbon run. Yeah, because I don't think a 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:31.960 lot of people like kind of give the proper respect 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:34.800 to that, like that of artists. 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:35.639 Big boy is a. 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:38.639 Big boy is an amazing He's an amazing guy in 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:40.800 terms of pig and talent and doing business for sure. 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:42.320 Sometimes you just a little ahead of the curve. 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:45.280 Yeah, all stars are so good and it was like 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:48.080 so many names you're on there, like oh shit, oh shit. 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:50.160 Rest and rest in peace of Nate, super Nate, down 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:52.800 of cancer, Lass Ships, rest in peace to him. Shouts 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:55.240 out to Black on seabone, Little bro No, shouts out 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:58.679 to Sleepy Brown and shouts out to now bubb shouts 0:17:58.680 --> 0:17:59.440 out Bubba. 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:03.800 For sure, Man for you man, talk to me about 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:08.320 like you know, I know, Uh, the focus is Michael. 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:14.119 How many times have you been in with LP in 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:17.119 the last like twelve months working on music? If any. 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:21.200 Man, we've been together because we were touring. We haven't 0:18:21.200 --> 0:18:21.480 worked on. 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:23.840 Anything working on these you guys had the tour. By 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:25.960 the way, I'm still very mad that the Rage tour 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:27.600 never happened for me to see with my man. 0:18:27.680 --> 0:18:31.119 I wish you would have COVID New York, COVID and 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:33.520 I'm glad Zach is heeled up back on the mean 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:36.320 and congrats to all the guys they got introducted in 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:38.800 the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame rightfully. So, Yeah, 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:42.480 the way run the Jews usually work is l trevects 0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:44.400 off into the will. You know, he treks off into 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:48.040 the wilderness somewhere and probably like kills bears and eats 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:49.640 them and lives as a wild man and then comes 0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:50.880 back with the plessoro of beat. 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:52.480 I feel like you'd be the guy that killed bears 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:53.119 and eat them. 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:56.880 Now, I'm definitely down to. Usually we prefer killing deer 0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:57.880 and hog where I'm from. 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:00.800 But just went hog hunting with that Mexican No tea you. 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:02.520 Had fund out Texas, you had if you have had 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:04.359 a ball, right, it was so much fun. Who dressed 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:06.080 Who dressed him for you? They already had someone on 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:08.040 site to dress the hall cook and make sausages all 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:09.040 that for him, not cooking. 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:10.320 But we just killed him and left. 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:13.119 No, that's what we did. No, you're not supposed to 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:13.320 do that. 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:16.320 I swear to God this. In Texas they're like past 0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:16.879 I don't know. 0:19:17.040 --> 0:19:19.240 No, but you're you're supposed to eat them. It's a hall, 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:19.440 you know. 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:22.000 So we so we killed a couple of them and 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:25.040 then we came back and like a pack of coyotes or. 0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:27.600 That's destroyed them. That's good. 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:29.280 Yeah, I'm just saying you're not so you know, I 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:31.080 know they're like getting so fair out there there, but 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:33.159 you kill I killed something, I'm gonna eat it like 0:19:33.200 --> 0:19:35.480 I'm sorry. I'm not sports fishing. I'm not putting a 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:38.720 fucking bass bag that basket collar, basket it. That's my 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:40.040 grandfather saying, I'm ednit it. 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:42.399 Yeah, No, I mean I kind of felt because I've 0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:44.119 never been that's the only time I've ever been hunting. 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:46.120 You're good, though, you should do it. It was fun. 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:48.040 Everyone should do it. At least, you know, at least 0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:49.320 gets out once a year do something. 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:51.160 We also were doing it out of helicopter. 0:19:51.480 --> 0:19:52.720 Yeah, I've seen it. I've seen it. 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:56.840 Colinor shouts out to Colinor, who an interview with years 0:19:57.040 --> 0:20:00.040 he he go, I saw him. I've seen him go 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:02.159 out and lean out the helicopter and I had a 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:03.640 video of himpoo. 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:04.400 That sh it was dope. 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:07.119 Yeah, we're going on a hunting tangent up back to 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:09.200 you in LP so lp he goes out and he 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:10.320 kills bears and does whatever. 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:12.600 Yeah, and he comes back with the plethora of beats 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:15.160 on a hard drive, like like what do you think? 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:17.400 And and what what do I think? Is usually oh shit, 0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:20.520 this is the fucking album and like sequence and everything. Damn. 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:21.720 They're like, oh my god, this is it. 0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:24.639 And and then we were just in there. We're just 0:20:24.720 --> 0:20:26.440 in there. It was vibing more than right. We just 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:29.359 start playing ship. Like he came out here. We were 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:29.639 out here. 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:31.719 I had forgot when it was. It might have been 0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:33.200 a year or might have been just over, but he 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:33.760 came out. 0:20:34.160 --> 0:20:36.520 We were in different hotels, but he came over to 0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:38.800 a spot I was at and he just played something 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:41.520 for me and he had part of a verse on it, 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:43.040 and I said, oh let me, let me, let me 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:43.479 get in there. 0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:45.119 And I went in there. 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:47.480 Man, I spas on this ship like I'm like, oh shit, 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:50.000 So you know, to me, I'm just like I want 0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:50.800 to finish that one. 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:52.480 And whenever we finished that. 0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:55.120 One, we might get five. 0:20:55.680 --> 0:20:57.800 I mean, it's got to happen one day. That's something 0:20:57.840 --> 0:20:58.280 I cheered for. 0:20:58.560 --> 0:21:01.720 But again, we're just you know, it's when it's gonna happen, 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:04.560 Like when it happens, but until it happens, Michael. If 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:07.280 you're looking for dre verse Michael, or if you're looking 0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:10.800 for one, I got LP versus I got both hull 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:11.480 of Michael. 0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:13.520 And it's like and even the record with LP on 0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:14.680 the album is like different for you. 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:17.400 You got good dope on the street. That's all I'm 0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:17.680 telling you. 0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:19.359 Man, We still here for you. Man, you want to 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:21.560 run the Jewels, you need to listen and don't let 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:24.080 the devil. It's a it's a no I d beat 0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:28.280 with LP different like LP chopped it. 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I want to build something. 0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:17.560 Would you ever like, like I knew you've asked been 0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:19.119 asked if you'd ever run for office, but like I 0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:23.040 could see somebody getting elected eventually and making you a 0:25:23.119 --> 0:25:24.000 part of their cabinet. 0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:29.399 You know what, I remember when I think one of 0:25:29.440 --> 0:25:33.679 the Bushes put Arnold Schwartzenegger on their cabinet over physical fitness. 0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:35.639 And that's one thing I've seen in my life. I 0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:37.679 said that made all of sense in the world now, 0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:39.680 because you see Arnold and you're like, yeah, I'm like 0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:42.520 putting a brain surgeon who I have an enormous amount 0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:45.560 of respect for. Over housing. Urban development was a little 0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:48.280 quirky for me. But doctor Ben Carson grew up in 0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:50.680 the housing projects. I would have liked to have seen 0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:53.480 doctor Ben Carson while he was over the housing projects, 0:25:54.080 --> 0:25:59.120 institute some type of mandate that that gave kids options 0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:00.240 and benefits from already? 0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:03.159 Is it, Pete? No? 0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:05.359 I thought Pete was doing transportation. Yeah, I could be wrong, 0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:07.320 but you could be over here. But I always thought 0:26:07.359 --> 0:26:09.600 that that was an opportunity missed because I thought that 0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:12.840 if Ben could have figured something out between a bank, 0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:16.919 between health hood and education, that we could have been 0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:19.800 educating kids right in the housing projects. Differently, So if 0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:22.680 I did something in the cabinet that made sense, I'd 0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:23.520 be honored. 0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:25.200 To But I doubt you, So you'd be open to that. 0:26:25.560 --> 0:26:27.760 I'd I'd be open into that because I could, I 0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:30.280 could do something effective and I wouldn't have to prostitute 0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:32.800 myself for money because the person that hired me would 0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:33.399 have already done that. 0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:35.879 Like, had the DNC not like fucked over Bernie Sanders, 0:26:35.920 --> 0:26:37.760 I feel like you'd be You would definitely have You 0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:39.200 would definitely would have been in the cabinet. 0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:39.440 Yeah. 0:26:39.440 --> 0:26:41.000 I was a really believer, you know, and whatever the 0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:42.720 old guy was, even if I wouldn't have been the cabinet, 0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:45.160 would have I would have helped in any way. 0:26:45.320 --> 0:26:47.240 You guys are It's crazy because like you are such 0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:48.720 a leader, and I feel like, you know, when I 0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:51.920 think of like the word activists, that as a word 0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:56.000 that gets thrown around and I think about like how 0:26:56.119 --> 0:26:59.000 you and Bernie show up to like the Amazon. 0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:02.800 Strike Yeah down in elevant. Yeah, I'm saying that's. 0:27:02.640 --> 0:27:05.240 Something that like you're working on albums, you're touring, but 0:27:05.480 --> 0:27:08.040 like somehow you still find the time, you still find 0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:12.760 the energy to like still stand up and just be 0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:14.280 the voice of the voiceis well. 0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:16.320 You know what, It's not just me, you know, And 0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:20.040 I consider myself a product of the worker class in 0:27:20.119 --> 0:27:23.560 this country. I am you know, both my dads, my grandpa, 0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:27.359 my grandma. You know, working class people, hard working, decent people, 0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:30.199 field integrity, good morals, and they just wanted better. If 0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:32.520 they made mistakes, they learned from those mistakes and push forward. 0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:35.600 So you know, for me, I'm not the only one. 0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:38.000 You know, when you when you look at Senator Nina Turner, 0:27:38.480 --> 0:27:40.240 I feel like she should be the leader of the 0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:41.760 progressive movement in this country. 0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:42.000 You know. 0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:45.080 I think I think that for us to talk about it, 0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:47.000 and I'm talking about my community, on the black community, 0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:49.200 for us to talk about progression and not be talking 0:27:49.200 --> 0:27:52.280 about her actively is damn near crime. Like what's wrong 0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:54.600 with us? It's like ignoring Malcolm in the sixties, which 0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:57.680 people did you know that people ignored Malcolm in after 0:27:57.760 --> 0:27:59.840 he was dead, all of a sudden he had more fandom. 0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:02.080 And because of people like Dick Gregory. You know, when 0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:04.440 people say celebrities don't mean much, because of people like 0:28:04.480 --> 0:28:06.639 Dick Gregory's name stayed alive. People like Spike Lee, his 0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:09.399 name stayed alive. So for me, you know, my thing 0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:12.440 is Teslin Figaro, who now pops up on the Breakfast Club. 0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:15.840 You know, has her, has her, has her own podcast, 0:28:15.920 --> 0:28:19.080 and it's also does work with Revolte. Teslin is an 0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:22.960 amazing political mind. And part of the reason I stay, 0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:26.240 you know, just in know of what it is is 0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:28.679 because I constantly communicate with people like Nina. I constantly 0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:31.679 communicate with Nina, with Teslin, you know, Jennifer Farmer's amazing 0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:34.080 publicist out of Berney campaign. It's just some black women 0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:36.560 in Ohio in but it's brilliant when it comes to 0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:38.600 you know. So my thing is stay in touch with 0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:42.480 the people doing the work and less of an organizer 0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:44.720 now because my day job takes me away, but more 0:28:44.760 --> 0:28:45.520 of a mobilizer. 0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:46.680 How do you get people there? 0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:50.040 By the time doctor King was maybe two three years 0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:52.560 before he got out of you know, he was assassinated 0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:57.520 by this part this government. My belief doctor King was 0:28:57.600 --> 0:28:59.440 a mobilizer when he show up, they knew people were 0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:01.680 going to show up. But people organized on the ground 0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:03.760 included people like John Lewis and Crudi, people like Reveren 0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:06.600 James and Warner. Included people like Stokely Carmichael, you know, 0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:09.520 you know, also known as Kwame Tour. That's who we need. 0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:12.200 We need more of y'all. You know, I'd love for 0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:14.200 another Killer Mike to pop alone, you know what I mean. 0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:18.160 But until that happens, you got to congratulate the people 0:29:18.440 --> 0:29:20.080 that are working their ass off to try the best 0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:21.720 they you know, try to be the best they can be. 0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:24.640 And I think that they are worthy of our support locally, 0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:27.320 but look hyper local. I want to tell people that 0:29:27.440 --> 0:29:30.360 don't be so enamored by what the television is telling 0:29:30.400 --> 0:29:35.200 you to argue about with the before you even get 0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:38.280 to your counselman, what do your ten neighbors think of 0:29:38.360 --> 0:29:42.480 the street? I learned this first from my grandmother. My 0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:45.840 grandmother didn't like the way sanitation was leaving people garbage cares. 0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:49.640 She didn't think enough care concerned, and so she took 0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:51.600 it the city council. She was angry with about it, 0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:53.800 and she would didn't get satisfied when she heard, so 0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:55.360 she went and sat in the mayor's office till he 0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:58.200 saw her. She literally just went it, sat in here 0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:00.640 until too until she can plain, and she still didn't 0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:03.920 get what she wanted. And within two weeks we want 0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:07.160 Channel five News was my grandmother saying, this is how 0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:09.760 they do the black folks, black community All of a sudden, 0:30:09.840 --> 0:30:13.720 we've never had issues sanitation again because that black mayor 0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:16.360 wants to get elected, that black city council person and 0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:18.120 they say they want to do good for the black community. 0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:21.840 Well put our barberge cans down respectfully, because we respectful people. 0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:22.680 We clean our yards. 0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:25.360 And it's just she was my hero in that fashion, 0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:28.360 and I want more heroes like that because that's the 0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:30.840 way you create a killer, right, you create a Fanny 0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:34.560 new Hamer, you know, you create you create all these 0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:37.120 people that care, that aid, the people that may be 0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:39.720 the tip of the spear, you know, Theynard rushing. You 0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:43.520 create these people by being hyperactive. So whoever on a 0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:46.120 local level in your town is doing something takes some 0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:46.959 time to help them out. 0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:50.160 I was gonna say, like it feels that what would 0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:54.840 be your message for people who are so just exhausted 0:30:54.920 --> 0:31:00.080 with the process because it feels like a hopeless, a 0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:05.240 little cool landscape nationally world worldly things are like obviously 0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:06.000 we got we got. 0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:07.720 Wars going on in the world. I say, listen to 0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:08.400 what I just told you. 0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:11.200 Yeah, just focus on what you because what you can 0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:13.360 really control is your neighbors, is you could you. 0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:15.680 Know if you all do a little nobody gotta do 0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:19.280 a lot, val you do a little bit, a little bit. 0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:24.160 I'm wondering, man, for you, have you thought about uh, 0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:27.000 my boy, Jelly Roll just had a speech that viral. 0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:28.960 Jelly Man, Thank you. He was. 0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:31.760 Jelly was one of the first d ms I looked 0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:35.760 at when I got nominated, And it's just I've been 0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:36.920 cheering for him all year. 0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:40.280 Yeah, and it's crazy because people don't realize he kind 0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:42.760 of comes from that like underground white. 0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:46.880 Like you know, I'm a Southern so you know little 0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:49.800 white Jelly Roll all it. Yeah, you don't. 0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:53.400 It's not yellow Wolf, my brother, Like, yeah, you don't. 0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:56.320 You don't miss it because we all from the same place. 0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:58.280 Might have been a trailer park, might have been, a project, 0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:01.600 might have been, might have been, but it is and 0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:04.560 it's like, so I was cheering for him, and we 0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:06.800 share a lot of similarities, you know what I'm saying. 0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:09.360 You guys each have very unique past to where you 0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:10.080 currently are. 0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:13.200 When I heard his Grammy speech, my sister, my sister 0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:14.840 said it to me because she loves him to death, 0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:17.000 and she said, she said, he said, she said, it 0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:19.400 sounds like somebody I know, get your speech ready. 0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:24.280 My co hosts from my radio show, James Andre Jefferson Jr. 0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:26.280 He's like, man, you know, he goes to a black 0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:28.880 church every Sunday and he's like, man, they played Jelly 0:32:28.960 --> 0:32:29.880 Roast speech at church. 0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:33.600 Bro it was like, yeah, hey man, God, God, God 0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:34.560 gonna make a way. 0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:36.800 Such a crazy like it's just so dope to see 0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:39.200 somebody like that who's been like a peer of friend 0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:42.840 and just to have just this whole other like and 0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:45.680 if you ever have known Jelly, you know, he's always 0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:47.640 been this guy who you're like, Man, if people just 0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:49.320 talk to they love you. 0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:54.400 If they gave you a chance. So many people and again, congratulations, Jail. 0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:56.800 I love you, I love you, I love your family. Man, 0:32:56.880 --> 0:32:59.160 you and your wife are bomb. I'm happy for you. 0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:01.560 I look forward to forty fifty more years of you 0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:02.400 just doing it dope. 0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:03.960 I am. 0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:10.480 My thing is man, Just give folks a shot my things. 0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:13.440 I didn't want to die without you really haven't met Michael, 0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:16.520 and give me a shot. I knew you hadn't listened 0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:19.320 to me because everything you say you missing a rap. 0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:20.000 I already am. 0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:24.520 I was already given you dope, you know, And I'm 0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:27.280 glad that you didn't or you turned deathfeit to me 0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:29.160 for as long as you did, because it gave me 0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:33.200 an opportunity to find the discipline through Run the Jewels 0:33:33.240 --> 0:33:34.960 of how to take two and a half years to 0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:37.920 make Michael. It took me ten years of being Run 0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:41.320 the Jewels to understand I am building a community. I'm 0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:44.360 not just talking to an audience. It took me ten 0:33:44.480 --> 0:33:47.840 years to understand now seven years because it started about 0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:49.960 three years ago. It took me seven years to understanding. 0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:53.480 Now it's time, you know. And I take it seriously 0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:56.640 and not seriously to the fact it ain't fun or 0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:58.440 you and your old lady can't get blasted to it 0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:01.440 and go to the Flying Chicken see something drop. But 0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:04.120 I take it seriously and that I'm trying to give 0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:06.760 you or no, I've given you a level of quality 0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:09.640 that you deserve as a listener. You know, hip hop 0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:14.719 is looked at as something that does not involve high 0:34:14.880 --> 0:34:18.040 art and culture, or if it does, it doesn't involve 0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:21.400 it from a working class standpoint, you know. Somehow in 0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:24.040 order to be of high standard, you have to be 0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:27.560 collegiate or you have to wear you know, weird shit 0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:30.560 with weird fucking names. You know, I'm wearing an ebbits 0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:33.439 Field jacket and I feel stylish as a motherfucker because 0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:37.160 this motherfucker made in America and it's about football, and 0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:39.960 this is the good jacket my grandpa put on when 0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:42.960 he wasn't working, you know. And that's that's what That's 0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:45.200 what I'm a That's what I'm about. I take pride 0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:47.520 in this ship. I take pride in the fact of 0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:50.520 knowing that whether it was Pony or Puma or. 0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:55.240 Nike, we did that. We created sneaker culture. Nike doesn't 0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:58.440 happen without hip hop and its capacity. It just doesn't. 0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:00.560 Starter starter, does it happened? 0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:03.120 I can you can literally name anything. 0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:04.279 It doesn't. It doesn't happen. 0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:07.239 So Linciaga, I take this ship, you know what I'm saying, Like, I. 0:35:07.640 --> 0:35:10.120 Take it that seriously, I love this ship. I love 0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:12.600 this ship to my core. I love the ship. Want bones. 0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:14.040 This ain't some shit I'm doing on the way to 0:35:14.280 --> 0:35:14.839 somewhere else. 0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:18.319 You know, you guys have done such a great job 0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:21.719 of in a world in which it feels like the 0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:26.200 business model of being a rapper is uh, extremely hard 0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:28.280 if you're especially an independent rapper. 0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:29.439 Right, Like, it ain't easy. 0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:32.320 It's not easy because if you're just looking at what 0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:36.480 a million streams pays you, right, it feels like almost 0:35:36.560 --> 0:35:38.800 like a hopeless climb up a mountain in order to 0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:41.320 really make a career or be able to just support 0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:45.200 your yourself, let alone your family. Right, you guys have 0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:47.359 done such a good job over the last ten years 0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:52.520 of monetizing the brand. Right, what are some things that 0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:57.600 you're doing with Michael, whether it's obviously the tour was successful, 0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:01.520 you know, I think always tell people like, if you're 0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:03.800 if you got a fan base and you're not and 0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:07.319 you don't have a hard weight, obviously people are gonna 0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:08.799 stream it, but you want them to buy the twelve 0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:11.000 inch vinyl, You want them to buy a CD, a tape. 0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:14.400 Man, I'm not gonna pretend to be no mastermind. I follow. 0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:17.799 I follow my brother currency man shouts out there, man 0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:19.200 who's on the album? Yeah? 0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:21.040 Him and him and two Chinese. They on my dope 0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:23.239 boar record. Usually your dope board record. You're hearing we 0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:25.960 sold the most dopeer. Sometimes dope boys just throw a 0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:28.160 dope barbecue and invite all the other dope boys can 0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:30.000 come out, and you see their cars, and you get 0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:32.120 motivated to do good in school because your mama tell 0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:32.960 you they did. 0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:34.480 Good at school. That's why they got it. 0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:37.880 That's how our record hits me when the spaceship views, 0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:40.400 so I got to figure out shoots under that. But Spiter, 0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:44.719 I love the relaxed ways to hint like him and 0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:48.719 move some move like cause it's just he do what's 0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:49.319 genuely him. 0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:51.200 I remember going down there when he had the car shop. 0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:54.000 You can go get your brakes and funk around me, 0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:56.120 have a thirty minute convocause there you. 0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:58.040 Know, crazy, did you get your brakes done? 0:36:58.080 --> 0:36:59.920 And you're hanging out with you know what I'm saying, like, 0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:02.399 that's that's the kind of shit I'm into. So I've 0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:04.600 just leaned into the ship that I love and like 0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:07.359 my wife and I built in the swag shop over 0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:09.160 the last eleven years. I bought that when I was 0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:11.960 recording rap music. I sold my ninety five in Paula 0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:15.439 and bought the swash shop off Craigslist, the first swag shop. 0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:17.560 And I've been to that one. 0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:20.080 Yeah, yeah, ye, that's Rosewell Highway. 0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:21.200 We got one on Edge. We we got one to 0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:23.279 State Farm, Marina. We rolling out two to three next year. 0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:27.560 You know, I'm like, I've had eleven It took us 0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:29.319 five to really kind of figure out what we were doing. 0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:31.359 I just always wanted to have a barbershops, cool place 0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:32.840 to hang out. I have to wait in line. But 0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:37.200 what we realized doing COVID, especially when we closed, moms 0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:40.520 were dming me like, don't close y'all shops. Y'all shops 0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:42.239 is one of the only places that I can bring 0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:44.520 my boy. I know he's in the company of good 0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:47.200 men with integrity. I'm treated with respect. There was just 0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:49.200 and then they said, man, we love when y'all do 0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:51.600 the little T shirt drops and stuff. So we were like, man, 0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:53.759 we're gonna have to be paying. Let's just press up 0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:56.040 some shirts. And what we realized is, man, you are 0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:58.040 a brand operating as a barber shop. 0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:00.359 Yeah, so I think I got a new era. 0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:02.879 Yeah, so we got we got new era stuff coming. 0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:04.440 We got more T shirts and stuff coming. We got 0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:07.359 more product, everything with cigarette lighters. That's trade cool stuff coming. 0:38:07.440 --> 0:38:10.759 But we're a barber shop, and we've spent some time 0:38:11.000 --> 0:38:14.160 figuring out what kind of shampoos I like. I hate 0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:15.840 the smell girly, so it's not like I'm using a 0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:18.399 girls stuff. I hate the I don't want to smell 0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:20.200 like old spice like my dad, you know what I mean. 0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:21.480 So we developed. 0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:23.960 I got a shampoo conditioner thing coming out. I got 0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:26.120 some shaving cream coming out, beer bong. I just got 0:38:26.160 --> 0:38:28.120 some cool stuff that you can just buy. When at 0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:29.840 the shop, you're getting to get in a haircut. So 0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:32.040 I'm excited about that to see what that's going to do, 0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:34.600 because I know that as a man, I don't like 0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:35.960 going into beauty supply stores. 0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:36.399 As a guy. 0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:38.960 When my Jordans dropped, I might, I might not have 0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:41.279 no problem paying two hundred dollars for the Jeorans, but 0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:41.680 I don't. 0:38:41.520 --> 0:38:42.719 Want to play one hundred and fifty dollars for a 0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:43.480 T shirt. Hey what up? 0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:45.000 You always got to stop the interview, tell you about 0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:47.480 our good folks at King Palm. 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For you? 0:41:48.360 --> 0:41:50.520 The three is very uncomfortable, but it's just such a. 0:41:51.200 --> 0:41:53.280 I probably like the silhouette of Afford event. 0:41:53.719 --> 0:41:56.160 Amazing, No, it's it's and then yeah, you know you 0:41:56.239 --> 0:41:58.680 guys just dropped your own nikesb's. 0:41:58.160 --> 0:41:59.920 Yeah we did. We did, man, we did. 0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:02.080 Hey, what's up with are you ever going to do 0:42:02.120 --> 0:42:03.480 a new season of the Netflix show? 0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:06.120 It was so trigger we don't see something cool? Amazing? 0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:08.720 Thank you man, we got some I got the chops 0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:09.480 for this ship man. 0:42:09.600 --> 0:42:11.400 So and then you had a show on Facebook. 0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:13.480 But yeah, that was the one kill Mike. 0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:16.040 That's going back to so yeah, but but the trigger 0:42:16.080 --> 0:42:16.879 Warner was the one. 0:42:17.120 --> 0:42:18.200 The trigger Warner was one. 0:42:18.480 --> 0:42:23.759 The fact you like the crypt colaod pop yeah, legendary. 0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:26.359 We got more coming, man, we got more coming. It's it's. 0:42:27.360 --> 0:42:29.560 If you haven't seen it, go watch it and just 0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:31.000 hit me up and let me know what you think about. 0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:33.319 It's still on Netflix, still on Netflix. Do you feel 0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:36.359 like we're turning the corner? I mean, obviously the name 0:42:36.360 --> 0:42:37.920 of the shows trigger warning. A lot of people for 0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:40.480 the last five or six years get triggered easily and 0:42:40.600 --> 0:42:42.840 our there's a lot of online outrage. You've been subject 0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:44.759 to some of that when you're did with the gun thing. 0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:47.040 People were coming at you crazy. 0:42:47.320 --> 0:42:50.200 But I wonder do you feel like society's turning a 0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:54.000 corner when it comes to like some of the like 0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:57.360 more sensitive, like people just have been like all time sensitive. 0:42:57.480 --> 0:43:00.960 I don't know, I don't care. I've learned my lesson. 0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:03.880 My grandfather was who he was for a reason. I 0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:06.480 bet you, if the world go down tomorrow, the power 0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:08.040 grips shut off, I bet you, my family and me, 0:43:08.960 --> 0:43:10.080 you got you, We'll be okay. 0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:11.920 Is the crip sustainable? 0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:17.920 If the ship stops tomorrow, I'm gonna be okay. 0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:21.719 That's what I'm saying. It matters of being triggered. I 0:43:21.960 --> 0:43:24.600 just like to tell people, man, don't let that anxiety 0:43:24.640 --> 0:43:26.560 get to you. Man, just take care of yourself, you know, 0:43:26.719 --> 0:43:28.640 do right by yourself and do right by other people. 0:43:28.840 --> 0:43:29.719 Because if you. 0:43:29.760 --> 0:43:31.759 Keep worrying about what the world's gonna do, you never 0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:33.520 gonna take time to live. You donna spend your to 0:43:33.560 --> 0:43:37.840 waste your time worrying. Now, just you know, in telling 0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:40.480 whatever your version of the truth is, just remember on 0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:42.640 the other side of that truth is somebody else is 0:43:42.680 --> 0:43:44.919 thinking or feeling their logic. And on the other side 0:43:44.920 --> 0:43:47.520 of that may be some repercussions and whatever those are, 0:43:47.600 --> 0:43:49.799 they are. But man, I make sure my kids watch 0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:52.840 George Carlin. I make sure my kids watch watch what 0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:55.799 you're prior. I make sure my kids because you need 0:43:55.920 --> 0:43:59.840 to make sure that there's a healthy human distrust of systems. 0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:03.759 M And I think we've gotten rid of. Like what 0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:06.600 you just said is like, however you feel, whatever your 0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:09.200 truth is, the other side, that's their. 0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:11.239 Truth, you know, make it the truth. 0:44:11.360 --> 0:44:14.000 It doesn't make it the truth. But there's gotta be 0:44:14.040 --> 0:44:14.680 some dialogue. 0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:15.480 I smoked. 0:44:16.120 --> 0:44:18.279 I got on a plane to come out here, and 0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:21.080 I watched something my gay uncle watched thirty years ago, 0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:25.320 and I just was too young to even understand to 0:44:25.480 --> 0:44:26.759 watch it at all. And I got a chance to 0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:28.560 see a lot of stuff because my parents were so young. 0:44:28.880 --> 0:44:32.000 The other kids wouldn't seen. But Parents is Burning such 0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:34.640 an interesting movie. You know, it's about these gay kids 0:44:34.680 --> 0:44:37.319 in New York and about these drag balls that they're throwing. 0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:41.960 So but but what I learned about poverty. And I 0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:44.200 had a friend named Kevin Man. He was an amazingly 0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:48.440 brilliant organizer. He was a kid whose parents, because he 0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:51.000 was gay, had kicked him out, and he lived in 0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:53.600 a foster home of sources. And I saw him be 0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:56.880 used and abused by older men in terms that you 0:44:56.880 --> 0:44:59.279 could tell the story. I was hip enough to know 0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:01.360 if he came out black Eye son happened, you know, 0:45:02.080 --> 0:45:04.040 that kind of ship. But it made me really have 0:45:04.200 --> 0:45:07.120 even more empathy and love for him. He's gone now, 0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:09.440 you know, God bless it dead. But I saw these 0:45:09.560 --> 0:45:12.360 kids that were just from positive it's poor kids. So 0:45:12.760 --> 0:45:16.680 they talked about how how at first with the older 0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:19.040 guys at that time, they had you know, done big 0:45:19.120 --> 0:45:22.399 feathers and balls and things. It made them feel good 0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:25.279 about themselves. It was an alternative feeling of poverty. And 0:45:25.400 --> 0:45:27.920 then the kids got into a designer you know it 0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:29.920 was it was Eve Saint Laurent, that kind of thing, 0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:32.759 and they presented themselves that way. But I didn't know 0:45:32.800 --> 0:45:35.200 there were all these sub categories of what was real 0:45:35.320 --> 0:45:37.440 or what could And I just said, Wow, this really 0:45:38.320 --> 0:45:40.680 is a group of human beings that created another reality 0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:43.880 for themselves as a as a as an autonative and 0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:48.520 pain and desperation. Essentially, I participated in that through hip hop. Essentially, 0:45:48.920 --> 0:45:52.040 kids who are who are sports heads participated that. If 0:45:52.080 --> 0:45:54.239 you hear somebody ever talk about jiu jitsu, and you'll 0:45:54.239 --> 0:45:55.520 think they're talking about a religion. 0:45:55.560 --> 0:45:56.640 You know, you know what I'm saying, what I'm saying. 0:45:57.000 --> 0:46:00.200 So for me, that helped. 0:46:00.080 --> 0:46:02.960 Expand my understanding in a way that I cannot go 0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:06.120 forward not understanding, you know what I mean. I can 0:46:06.200 --> 0:46:11.400 go forward disagreeing or agreeing, or go forward without understanding exactly. 0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:14.880 And that's so for me. I'm I'm on a mission 0:46:14.960 --> 0:46:17.160 or journey of life trying to understand more. 0:46:17.280 --> 0:46:19.040 I always say that about like the abortion thing, Like 0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:21.640 however you feel about the abortion thing. I mean, obviously 0:46:21.800 --> 0:46:25.520 I'm a pro choice guy within reason, but like the 0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:28.480 other side, I get if you feel like it's murdered. 0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:31.400 I can't even say nothing to you. I understand your perspective, 0:46:31.440 --> 0:46:33.200 and I understand why you're so passionate about it. I 0:46:33.320 --> 0:46:36.920 might not agree, but you got your stance, and I 0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:40.560 get it. People have to be more like aware of 0:46:40.719 --> 0:46:43.759 like other people's perspective because you work with people who 0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:46.319 you don't agree with every day you're you're you're gonna 0:46:46.360 --> 0:46:48.520 stand in line next to somebody a subway with somebody 0:46:48.640 --> 0:46:49.279 done with. 0:46:49.320 --> 0:46:52.560 Them to hear them out, and you could disagree. I 0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:55.400 got a television show called Love and Respect. We just 0:46:55.520 --> 0:46:58.480 want an Emmy for it. I want a day and 0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:02.160 want to amy for interview with Bernice King, doctor King's 0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:03.440 youngest daughter. 0:47:03.520 --> 0:47:04.799 Doctor me. M okay, you his daughter. 0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:08.080 But this show is all about just having conversations with 0:47:08.120 --> 0:47:10.600 people I might agree or disagree with, you know, and 0:47:10.840 --> 0:47:16.400 and I've disagreed with blatantly liberal people disagree with blatantly conservative. 0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:19.359 And and my thing is at the end of each talk, 0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:22.000 though I know I've connected more to another human. I 0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:24.279 think that should be Ultimately, that's would be what we're 0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:27.200 pushing for. So even in matters of business, if I'm 0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:29.440 selling the product just because it's from a place of 0:47:30.000 --> 0:47:33.799 my own humanity, I wanted a barbershop. I think barbershops 0:47:33.840 --> 0:47:36.000 are cool places to buy my T shirts and socks 0:47:36.120 --> 0:47:38.359 because I don't want to buy the fucking gas station. 0:47:38.719 --> 0:47:42.000 So my barbershop sells a branded heath, a gray, black 0:47:42.040 --> 0:47:42.600 and white teeth. 0:47:42.680 --> 0:47:43.240 That's fire. 0:47:45.320 --> 0:47:47.279 Get your white tea right there, and it's and it 0:47:47.360 --> 0:47:49.239 and it matches your jay's it's the same, healthy. 0:47:49.280 --> 0:47:51.200 Great. You get what I'm saying, You know, I don't. 0:47:51.280 --> 0:47:53.680 I don't want to go into beauty supply store with 0:47:54.000 --> 0:47:56.520 with with with my cousins, with the fucking caps on 0:47:56.560 --> 0:47:58.399 their head and my little nieces running through that bit. 0:47:58.560 --> 0:48:00.960 So you can buy your chef who's the self right there? 0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:03.480 I want it So I want to create business. That's natural, 0:48:03.640 --> 0:48:05.920 you know to me. I just got like thirty thousand 0:48:06.000 --> 0:48:08.960 the square foot of squarehouse space in Atlanta. We're going 0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:11.719 to be doing our own you know, similar ship studio stuff. Man, 0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:13.560 you know, so I just I'm just trying to leave 0:48:14.080 --> 0:48:14.600 a legacy. 0:48:14.840 --> 0:48:17.759 You're doing recording studios or yeah, just. 0:48:17.920 --> 0:48:22.239 No prompt film and filman film in and audio. So 0:48:22.320 --> 0:48:24.000 you're gonna be able to do recording studios. You're gonna 0:48:24.000 --> 0:48:24.600 be able to record. 0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:27.080 Your Podcastlanta's the new Hollywood man. Yeah, I think I 0:48:27.200 --> 0:48:29.200 think Tyler Perry his paces. 0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:30.160 He's a man man. 0:48:30.320 --> 0:48:32.480 He watches I didn't know I was so heavily involved, 0:48:32.480 --> 0:48:34.839 but they used me a lot of his his prime 0:48:34.920 --> 0:48:37.520 movie that entary yet. 0:48:37.560 --> 0:48:38.840 Yeah, I want to watch it because he. 0:48:38.960 --> 0:48:40.880 Is powerful and inspire. 0:48:41.000 --> 0:48:42.160 He's like the boss. 0:48:42.520 --> 0:48:44.080 How he's powerful. 0:48:44.160 --> 0:48:46.479 This guy should have owned bet right now. They fucked 0:48:46.480 --> 0:48:46.719 that up. 0:48:46.760 --> 0:48:48.920 Well, signs don't happen. You know, you don't get it 0:48:48.960 --> 0:48:50.200 the first time, you know, no. 0:48:50.239 --> 0:48:52.000 But it's crazy. He's sure on a black person. 0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:54.359 You're on BT Hey, I agree, but we're gonna see 0:48:54.400 --> 0:48:56.839 it's gonna happen byron A Byron Allen wanted it too. 0:48:57.160 --> 0:48:59.839 Yeah yeah, I think you know, I think fifty took 0:48:59.880 --> 0:49:01.479 us out of it. I want to see I'm cheating 0:49:01.520 --> 0:49:02.319 full so all to win. 0:49:02.840 --> 0:49:04.880 Yeah no, fifty, I was just well, I want to 0:49:05.200 --> 0:49:08.000 We had a there's a network that somebody just left recently, 0:49:08.040 --> 0:49:09.880 and I was like, what if fifty came in and 0:49:10.000 --> 0:49:12.880 ran that network and had all his own Like fifty 0:49:12.960 --> 0:49:13.920 needs his own network. 0:49:14.320 --> 0:49:16.600 I think it's gonna happen, like he pops stars off. 0:49:16.719 --> 0:49:17.600 I think it's gonna happen. 0:49:18.080 --> 0:49:21.480 Yeah, it's it's crazy. We'll listen. Man. The album is 0:49:21.800 --> 0:49:25.600 Michael a piece of art. Thank you, beautiful album. Everyone 0:49:25.640 --> 0:49:27.319 should go listen to. It is my album of the year. 0:49:28.239 --> 0:49:29.920 I really actually don't even think it's close. 0:49:30.239 --> 0:49:30.439 Yeah. 0:49:30.520 --> 0:49:32.279 I mean that with all due respect. Usually I would 0:49:32.280 --> 0:49:35.640 tell you if I was like and technically metro Booming 0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:38.120 came out last year and I love the metro Booming album, 0:49:38.320 --> 0:49:41.239 But this year, I don't think it's close. So I 0:49:41.280 --> 0:49:43.839 don't think it's close. There's not another album that has 0:49:44.440 --> 0:49:46.799 even made me quite because usually I'm like, man, it's 0:49:47.440 --> 0:49:49.200 by the time December hit, You're like, damn, it's like 0:49:49.239 --> 0:49:51.480 three or four. It's only one and then the rest. 0:49:51.640 --> 0:49:53.439 And just sit down and if y'all and if y'all 0:49:53.520 --> 0:49:56.080 think is man, just sit down and listen. Listening off 0:49:56.120 --> 0:49:57.839 and hard. You ain't got to like me, but boy, 0:49:57.880 --> 0:49:59.479 it's gonna be hard not to love this album. 0:50:00.080 --> 0:50:02.120 Your percent. Man, Hey, I wonder are you Are you 0:50:02.480 --> 0:50:03.719 going back on Rogan anytime soon? 0:50:03.719 --> 0:50:05.719 I know that's yeah. 0:50:05.800 --> 0:50:08.359 Rogan is yeah. Rogan first of all, definitely friendship. Love 0:50:08.440 --> 0:50:10.239 him to death and his whole staff over those guys 0:50:10.280 --> 0:50:10.560 are great. 0:50:10.680 --> 0:50:12.200 Have you into the comedy Mothership yet? 0:50:12.280 --> 0:50:15.280 Yes? I got went over there, stalled the ship solid. 0:50:15.440 --> 0:50:15.799 I wasn't. 0:50:16.120 --> 0:50:16.720 It was amazing. 0:50:16.800 --> 0:50:18.560 He put me up in these little the Seatson in 0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:20.560 the balcony. It was held of dark. No one even 0:50:20.640 --> 0:50:21.600 knew I was in there was it was. 0:50:21.719 --> 0:50:23.520 It was dope. I had a great time. Rogan. 0:50:23.600 --> 0:50:26.000 Man, I just want to say, I just just man. 0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:29.200 He to me, Man, he stands on the side of 0:50:29.680 --> 0:50:30.320 truth tellers. 0:50:30.360 --> 0:50:30.839 You know, I don't. 0:50:30.880 --> 0:50:33.000 You don't always people don't always agree with him. He 0:50:33.040 --> 0:50:35.000 doesn't always agree with people. We don't always agree with 0:50:35.320 --> 0:50:38.080 one another. But man, there's something to be said for 0:50:38.640 --> 0:50:43.480 letting people have platform to just discuss agreeances and disagreeances. 0:50:43.560 --> 0:50:45.759 So I agree, you know, I value value it for 0:50:45.880 --> 0:50:47.680 that reason, you know, value him as a human for 0:50:47.719 --> 0:50:49.680 that reason. And he taught me the beauty of eating 0:50:49.719 --> 0:50:51.840 elk meat and peppers, because god damn. 0:50:52.000 --> 0:50:54.319 Seeing those posts, I haven't ever had. Have you had 0:50:54.800 --> 0:50:55.160 elk meat? 0:50:55.239 --> 0:50:56.279 Yes, you should have it. It's good. 0:50:56.400 --> 0:50:58.040 It's a vendicent of sorts, you know what I mean, 0:50:59.400 --> 0:51:01.919 Sweet dear, you gotta remember, we eat deer hog. 0:51:02.160 --> 0:51:05.640 You know, That's what I feel so terrible and Mexico 0:51:05.800 --> 0:51:07.040 he just killed hogs and left. 0:51:07.239 --> 0:51:08.320 Yeah, I mean, like you shouldn't. 0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:09.640 I mean, I'm just you know, I guess you ain't 0:51:09.640 --> 0:51:11.920 got to eat everyhow, but if you don't, you should 0:51:11.920 --> 0:51:12.359 eat a hog. 0:51:12.400 --> 0:51:14.680 You kid had loaded them into the helicopter. 0:51:14.880 --> 0:51:18.000 Yeah yeah, but sometimes there are trucks too that are 0:51:18.000 --> 0:51:20.239 out there, but they don't. 0:51:20.400 --> 0:51:21.520 They don't eat any oft a holl. 0:51:21.680 --> 0:51:24.960 No. They when my grandpa was from Man, they there's 0:51:25.080 --> 0:51:27.640 hog farms down there, so they you know, crow hog. 0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:30.680 They and they slaughtered a hog there and they'd already 0:51:30.680 --> 0:51:33.360 have dug a pit into the ground. So my grandma 0:51:33.400 --> 0:51:35.759 they cook the hogs above ground, right to keep my 0:51:35.800 --> 0:51:38.960 grandpa's from they cooked their hogs in the ground. Totally 0:51:39.040 --> 0:51:40.160 different type of flavor. 0:51:41.120 --> 0:51:43.920 Are crazy, oh man, That's why I said the same thing. 0:51:43.960 --> 0:51:46.399 I'm like, guys, can we like, can we like take 0:51:46.520 --> 0:51:49.120 something from this hog? So feeling is bad? They're like, 0:51:49.200 --> 0:51:51.240 no coyotes to eat them. Somebody's gonna eat. 0:51:51.080 --> 0:51:53.160 It, damn Like we just there's too many of them. 0:51:53.200 --> 0:51:53.799 There's millions of. 0:51:53.840 --> 0:51:56.000 That's what tex has got all the money. That's who 0:51:56.040 --> 0:51:58.640 you know, you're richest. Fuck you just go, man, I'm 0:51:58.680 --> 0:52:00.000 a little stressed. I'm gonna kills them. 0:52:00.080 --> 0:52:01.320 Fucking hall That's really it. 0:52:02.840 --> 0:52:06.319 Yeah, anyway, I appreciate you pulling up my love and respect. Well, 0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:09.200 first of all, congrats on the nominee. And I listen February, 0:52:09.200 --> 0:52:10.319 I think is when the Grammys. 0:52:10.200 --> 0:52:12.440 February four, I believe. So I want to party with 0:52:12.520 --> 0:52:12.839 a mess. 0:52:12.840 --> 0:52:14.080 So, hey, man, y'all send me a lot of good 0:52:14.200 --> 0:52:16.920 energy man, and you know the people on the Grammy community. Man, 0:52:16.960 --> 0:52:18.080 I just want to I just want to say, I 0:52:18.120 --> 0:52:20.200 want to employ that you get an album and listen 0:52:20.280 --> 0:52:23.080 with an over heart. Yeah, it's no better representation of 0:52:23.160 --> 0:52:24.680 rapping this fifty of yet in this album. 0:52:24.760 --> 0:52:26.399 I don't even I don't know how the Grammys work. 0:52:26.440 --> 0:52:28.319 I just know that, you know, they've gotten some stuff 0:52:28.360 --> 0:52:29.880 right and they've gotten some stuff wrong. They got it 0:52:29.960 --> 0:52:31.719 right that they nominated you, and let's hope they get 0:52:31.719 --> 0:52:32.040 it right there. 0:52:32.080 --> 0:52:32.440 Let's bring it. 0:52:33.160 --> 0:52:34.560 You got to bring one of them three home. 0:52:34.640 --> 0:52:35.960 Yeah, yeah, I want to, you know the one I 0:52:36.040 --> 0:52:38.440 want wrap Album of the Year covers everything. 0:52:38.600 --> 0:52:41.160 Yeah, you know under Man there it is man Killer, Mike, 0:52:41.200 --> 0:52:43.759 my guy. Appreciate you. Respect, Yes, sir, yes, sir, A 0:52:44.280 --> 0:52:45.839 man of course. 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