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Speaker 1: Lenny Huh, No, not at all. These men are both

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Speaker 1: the guillotine. Oh dear a. The guillotine not a real guillotine,

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Speaker 1: system to stay in place under any circumstances. I don't

426
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 1: really care how it gets taken down because it enemy

427
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: of my enemy is my friend. And that's the end

428
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: of that comment part. Well, Elaine, thank you so so much.

429
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 1: We appreciate every time you are with us, and this

430
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,199
Speaker 1: was an amazing conversation. We learned a lot. Thank you

431
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: for sharing your wisdom. Yes, we appreciate you. Thank you

432
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: for inviting me. It's ten pm, another late evening on

433
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: the streets of West Oakland. Like so much of the area,

434
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: it's deceptive, appearing safe and deserted. The four of us,

435
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: Rebecca Owen, Poppins, and myself ride our bikes through a

436
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: maze of brand new modern condominiens bizarrely generic and soulness.

437
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 1: They're the apparent result of massive foreign investment. We could

438
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: have driven my car, since it's been repaired and repaint it,

439
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 1: but we be consisted we go on bikes. Perhaps I

440
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: should be more apprehensive. It's clear this group is a

441
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: lot more cunning and observant than they let on, Especially

442
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: this Poppin's character. I mean he literally orchestrated our entire

443
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 1: first encounter. What else is he capable of? Let's go

444
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: right on frontage, Watch over that poth hold up ahead.

445
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: Rebecca is a natural leader. Can't deny her that it's

446
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: obvious she's in her element in this role she's playing.

447
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 1: As I said, I learned a lot during my short

448
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: time with the FBI, But the fact that I've already

449
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: successfully penetrated this rag tag group of activists, arsonists, whatever

450
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 1: is pretty remarkable. Never mind the fact that it's because

451
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: Rebecca is convinced I'm some kind of double agent. I

452
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: understand her way of thinking. On the surface, my story

453
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: looks pretty shady to someone with her history. Truthfully, I

454
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 1: don't understand my own intention, Jans. Since I've been back

455
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 1: in Oakland, everything feels like a fog. Perhaps subconsciously, I've

456
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: been feeling like I need to be a part of

457
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: a group again, and then there's only one. I don't

458
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 1: even know what to make at him. He's slippery, imperceptible,

459
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: impossible to profile. How does it feel? How does what feel?

460
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: How does it feel to be on the other side

461
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: of the law. I don't know what you mean? You will?

462
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: We're here. This place is creepy, like horror film set creepy,

463
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't expect an abandoned train station to be

464
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: any less dark, dank, and dirty. It's a very tall

465
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: barbed wire fence surrounding the perimeter, and I have a

466
00:27:53,280 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: feeling we won't be going through the front entrance. You'll

467
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: bring your back over here. I'll lock it up with

468
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: the others. Do you think they're safe? I mean I

469
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: don't see anyone else around you. We both know how

470
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: quickly that can change. I'll be fine. You can hardly

471
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: see them from the street, whatever you say, So how

472
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: do we get in here with these You're not serious

473
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: a wire cutter. If you know a better way, now,

474
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: I would be the time this year. I don't see

475
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: how you can snip a hole in a fence and

476
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: expect to get away with it. Look, I'll show you up.

477
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: Let me see those things. She's helpless. You know this

478
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: is just a teaching moment. MS you follow me. It's

479
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: actually very easy. We'll find a discreet spot like this

480
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: and sniff it just so. Then we remove this pio. Next,

481
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: open the edges so they hook back on the fence

482
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: and cover the hole. See good as new, and no

483
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: one will be able to tell, at least not tonight.

484
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: That's very clever. I didn't know you were such a

485
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: seasoned criminal. So are you're going to tell me what

486
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: we're doing here? An initiation assaults. But why this location?

487
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: I suppose it's because Rebecca has it in our mind

488
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: that you're still left b I personally, I don't think

489
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: that's true. There's no way you're still have fed or

490
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: wherever want to begin with? Oh really? And why is that?

491
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: For one, you're very reckless, and two I think you

492
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: seem maybe I shouldn't say tell me. I'm pretty sure

493
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: I can handle it. I mean, we've worked together for

494
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: over a week now, so I see things. You know,

495
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: you seem broken. Not that you're acting weird or crazy.

496
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: It's as if you're going through the motions of existing,

497
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: as if doing the bare minimum is exhausting, so you

498
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: just kind of tune out a ghost. Wow, you've really

499
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: given this some thought. Huh. Well, don't get me wrong.

500
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: You've gone through a lot recently, more than most. But

501
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: when I think it fits, they're like robots, stoic on emotion.

502
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: I think, then you don't know Beulah because she has

503
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: always been an icy bitch. It's what I like about

504
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: her and what makes me want to wring her neck.

505
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: There she goes read me like a book, I swear

506
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: Rebecca and I have more of a psychic connection than

507
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: me and my own twin sister. It's becoming very fucking annoying.

508
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: Maybe you'll get your chance. Judging by the looks of

509
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: this place, would be a great place to leave a body. Guys,

510
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: can we just do this already? Damn owen? Could you

511
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: have made the whole any smaller? Discretion is the key, Darling.

512
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: Upon closer inspection, the train station is even more ominous.

513
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: It's drenched in graffiti and surrounded by dead plants, clandestine

514
00:30:54,880 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: club meetings in a rickety old building. It's almost cliche

515
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: this way. Make sure you're turn your flashlights one. This

516
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: is insane. It's almost worth risking jail to see over

517
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: Here is where we have everything set up. Play it

518
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: turns pillows. You thought of everything? What are you doing?

519
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: Is this some kind of trade course not? It's your initiation.

520
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: I don't understand. You can drop the act now, sweetheart,

521
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: owing some help? Please? Hello, You can't just stand there

522
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: on a little point of gun at me. And now

523
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: you didn't think we were coming here to play monopoly.

524
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: You made your point. You want to protect your little

525
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: secret society. Go ahead. You're the one who invited me

526
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: because it was just a matter of time before you

527
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: weaseled your way in because that's what you do. But first,

528
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 1: for the last time, I'm not FBI. I am not

529
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: an informant, I am not investigating you, and I am

530
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: not trying to sabotage whatever you're involved in. If you're

531
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: not an agent, then why are you here. If your

532
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: intent isn't to infiltrate and stir up ship and report

533
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: back to your master's, then why did your type a

534
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: ass agree to come here tonight. We're supposed to believe

535
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: that you're compelled to be a social justice warrior after

536
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: years of apathy. It's a fair question. Just be honest, Savannah.

537
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: Is why I'm here. The fact that this part of

538
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: her life meant so much to her and I had

539
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: no idea. It makes me feel like I never really

540
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: knew her at all, and that's my fault. I should

541
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: have been there for her before she went looking for

542
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: family or acceptance or whatever it is you guys offered her.

543
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: So you asked me, what do I want? I want answers.

544
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: I want to know why my sister is lying in

545
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: a bed comatose. You still don't get it. There's nothing

546
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: to tell what happened to Savannah is on Savannah, Rebecca,

547
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: hold on, she should not. The whole truth won't make

548
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: a difference. She should still not. This is stupid. Don't

549
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: over her bullshit. She's not even a good liar. Check

550
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: out dude. All right, sit down, I guess his story. Time.

551
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: You remember Terence Peters. It doesn't ring a bell. Yeah,

552
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: it probably wouldn't. He was only fifteen when he was

553
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: murdered by a cop six months ago. That's terrible. And

554
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: what did he do? See? That's the problem. You automatically

555
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: assume he was doing something that justified on the spot execution.

556
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: I was just asking for context. He was homeless and

557
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: he's been stealing ship from the local stores, food mostly.

558
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: The cops stopped him with bags of chips under his jacket.

559
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure you can guess how the story ends. They

560
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: assumed he was armed and acted in self defense. This

561
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: was right across the street from Resist. Savannah and I

562
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: were there when it happened, hearing the shots and going

563
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: outside seeing his body sprawled out on the seamen m.

564
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: The memory is ' grained in my mind even more

565
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: than the blood. I remember clearly. All of those chips

566
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: blown the bits and scattered everywhere. Holy shit, Savannah never

567
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 1: told me about that. It affected all of us deeply,

568
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: a kind of um collective PTSD. But Savannah took it

569
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: the hardest anyway. The asshole who killed Terence got away

570
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: with it, of course, but that was the final strong

571
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: for us. What did you do? I'm getting there? Are

572
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: you where? The double a CP stage several incidents and

573
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: confrontations during the Civil rights movement. The idea was to

574
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: bring injustices to light by having upstanding citizens engaged and

575
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: planned acts of defiance. That way, the public wouldn't be

576
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: able to simply look the other way and dismiss the

577
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: horror of Jim curl Loss. So we came up with

578
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: the plan of our own. Savannah was supposed to be

579
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 1: the perfect victim, an attractive black woman with a clean record,

580
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: good family and a twin sister and the motherfucking FBI.

581
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: Why Savannah, why not you? You openly advocate for destruction

582
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: of government. Do you really think there's any love loss

583
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: for anarchist in this country? Anyway? Savannah insisted that it'd

584
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: be heard. It was a long shot, but we came

585
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: up with a pretty good plan for her to encounter

586
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: the same officer who shot Terence. I think we decided

587
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: on her car breakdown or something. Didn't we on thanks,

588
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: I can't remember. We had quite a lot of brands

589
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 1: to him in that week. The trickiest part was ensuring

590
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 1: the same court will be the one to respond to

591
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: the emergency calls. You made my sister into a martyr,

592
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: and for what we didn't do anything. At the last minute,

593
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: it owen and I realized that we could actually end

594
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: up undermining the cause we were championing. We didn't need

595
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: a lie because cops commit enough crimes on their own,

596
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: particularly the cop we were targeting, So we called it off,

597
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: but Savannah still wanted to do it. She went rogue

598
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 1: and tried to go through with confronting him on her own.

599
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: So it's true, Savannah is practically dead because of you.

600
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: Hey wait, wait, wait wait, what was that something? Do

601
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 1: you guys here that we're over here? What are you doing?

602
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: Didn't I say this was an initiation? That's what's happening.

603
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 1: Whoever you are, you're trespassing. Backup is on the way.

604
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: I suggest you stay right where you are. Great, we're

605
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: waiting shape the gun hold them to dispute up. No, wait,

606
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: hurry and take it. It's a call that's coming. What

607
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: just put it in your back pocket. If you don't,

608
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: I'll point it and we know how that will turn out.

609
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: Fuck you Owen, you're just the baddest Rebecca. If to me,

610
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: this thing really is loaded. I want all of your

611
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: hands up right now. So you got my text message

612
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: that's afraid you aren't coming. I don't know you. I said,

613
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: hands up, they're up. Aren't you gonna ask why I

614
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: told you to meet me here tonight? Now? I want

615
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 1: all of you to slowly pull out your identification cards. Hello,

616
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 1: you're not even gonna guess? Stop talking now, Okay? Office?

617
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: Just Scott Corey, who lives at one Hastings I have

618
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 1: and Alameda? How the fund do you know that? Chees man?

619
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: Do you listen? I'm the one who texted you. You

620
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 1: were summoned by me. This is all by my design.

621
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: I don't understand what you're not kidder. My friend is

622
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: having a hard time with her personal life. I know

623
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: we shouldn't be here, but we're we're just messing around.

624
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 1: I was a train any at Quantico and my father

625
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: was good friends with Chief man in at the O

626
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,760
Speaker 1: p D for many years. I'm sure he can vouch

627
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: for us. You're really like that boolean. Yeah, I asked

628
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: you a question, and come on, let's cooperate and let

629
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: this end peaceful, peaceful. He killed Terence. Here's the reason

630
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: your sister is in a coma. Unfortunately, that's all been

631
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: dean legalized murder. But you've been up to no good

632
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: on the downlow, haven't you, Scott Bulah. This guy is

633
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: a literal white supremacist. We put it all together. Not

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Speaker 1: only is he a murder of black people, he's been

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Speaker 1: bringing little black girls to a cat house. Officer Scott

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Speaker 1: Corey is scum and he's here so he can be

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Speaker 1: held accountable enough. You're all under arrest. If you use

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Speaker 1: the thing in your pocket, we can end this tonight.

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Speaker 1: Justice can be served. The law dictates justice. So decide

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Speaker 1: right now if you are on the side of the

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Speaker 1: law or on the side of justice. I'm not her,

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Speaker 1: I'm not like Savannah. Come in you first, turn around,

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Speaker 1: get offer you greasy piece of ship, do something you

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Speaker 1: actually gone It will be Hollwood against taste. What about

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Speaker 1: a camera? It's not on because he's a bad guy.

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Speaker 1: You all are fucking nuts all of you. I am

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Speaker 1: not part of this, and I don't want to be. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's too late, baby, because you're in it. Knee deep officer, Officer.

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Speaker 1: I have a gun. It's in my back pocket. I'll

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Speaker 1: keep my hands up and you can take it. Hands up.

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Speaker 1: Don't you move. Don't you fucking move. My hands are up,

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Speaker 1: My hands are up. I'm being completely compliant. Your compliance

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Speaker 1: is the problem. If you won't do it, then I will. Hey, Handsome,

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Speaker 1: put it down. No, I don't think I will yet.

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Speaker 1: Episode gourmette TOAs and The Intimate Evening. H Yeah, uh

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Speaker 1: Will Packer, I was gonna Producer James Lopez, I was

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Speaker 1: that count a producer behind Look here, Jack Leavy, executive

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Speaker 1: producer and director, Let's Go Deminique, New Time Yeah Now,

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Speaker 1: creator and writer, producer, Leave your baby, you need Hello? Hello,

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Speaker 1: Whitney Fuller, Creative executive Michael keith Berg, co producer, Drell

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Speaker 1: Jeff Forston, music by Jeff Jeff what Up Boy, Joe Wolf,

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Speaker 1: Tony Homer, score mangers, Paye Ramsay Production assistant Junior Rohne

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Speaker 1: Production System. You didn't main cats, Now you did? I Yeah,

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Speaker 1: mission Tom Venez baby and I for Real sound by

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Speaker 1: podcast Stage. Yeah, this has been a world pack of

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Speaker 1: media production. I heart production and I am that boys

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Speaker 1: you down. The one is only no phoney, am back

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Speaker 1: without the Roman. Let's go. That's an additional voice. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: one and only. Let's go. Lord,