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Speaker 1: TBTTBUSA dot com is the email address. Are you shocked

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Speaker 12: ideology has really bedded down. It's captured most of our

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Speaker 12: health service, our Department of Health or HSC, the Department

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Speaker 12: of Education and of course the DOJ. Within education, children

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Speaker 12: in Ireland are being indoctrinated into gender ideology. Parents are

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Speaker 12: not allowed to remove their children from class because it's

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Speaker 12: brought into mandatory rc SPH classes. And even though this

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Speaker 12: is an infringement on the rights as parents which exist

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Speaker 12: in Ireland under legislation and in our written constitution, and

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Speaker 12: those rights are very robust on paper, because it's been

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Speaker 12: brought in into either anti bullying LGBTQI anti bullying or

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Speaker 12: those various sort of trojan horse mechanisms, parents have no

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Speaker 12: opportunity to remove the children from those class even if

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Speaker 12: they want to. And then also we have full self

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Speaker 12: idea whereby men in Ireland who say they are women

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Speaker 12: are allowed to play female sport, they're allowed into female

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Speaker 12: changing rooms, toilets, so even sent to female prison and

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Speaker 12: sent to female homeless shelters.

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Speaker 1: So okay, help me understand here. I'm vaguely familiar with

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Speaker 1: the troubles the Protestants versus the Catholics in Ireland, And

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Speaker 1: as bad as that it looks from the outside, my

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Speaker 1: understanding was at least they're both Christian factions. What happened

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Speaker 1: between then and now to kind of tank the more standard,

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Speaker 1: the more normal, traditional value system that Ireland upheld, even

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Speaker 1: if there were, you know, divisions in the different sects

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Speaker 1: of Christianity.

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Speaker 12: So it's my observation really that Ireland has transformed from

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Speaker 12: the most Catholic country in the world to the most

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Speaker 12: radical progressive country in the world. And in many ways

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Speaker 12: we've almost like segued from thureaucracy to the next because

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Speaker 12: it's still so much social control within the culture. But

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Speaker 12: it's just it's a new religion. So whereas it used

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Speaker 12: to be Catholicism, now it's very much like justice, a

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Speaker 12: social justice theory, and the religion of trans the religion

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Speaker 12: around open borders these are kind of magical beliefs whereby,

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Speaker 12: you know, we're saying it is possible for a man

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Speaker 12: to turn into a woman, for a woman to be

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Speaker 12: a man, it is possible to change sex. I mean,

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Speaker 12: everyone knows that's not true, right, But there's just a

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Speaker 12: very noisy locus of power whereby the locus of like

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Speaker 12: the power used to died in the Catholic Church. Now

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Speaker 12: it resides in the NGO industrial complex, in the academy,

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Speaker 12: in the bubble, as I call it, the eraptus, which

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Speaker 12: is our parliament. And you know, these people hold views

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Speaker 12: which really are so disconnected with the ordinary views of

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Speaker 12: ordinary people. So there's just a growing disconnect between social

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Speaker 12: policy that's been pushed onto people and what people really

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Speaker 12: believe and care about.

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Speaker 1: Now, I'm curious, and you might not have like in

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Speaker 1: depth information on this, but you kind of mentioned that

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Speaker 1: it's outside kind of globalist forces coming in from you know,

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Speaker 1: the people with the World Economic Forum or even the

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Speaker 1: UK kind of pushing their ideas onto the Irish Parliament

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Speaker 1: or Irish government. What advantage is there that these people

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Speaker 1: are going against what the populace actually wants and believes in.

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Speaker 1: And it's just kind of doing their thing, like you said,

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Speaker 1: top down, forcing all this agenda onto the people of Ireland.

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Speaker 12: So I think what I've seen and others have commented this. Also,

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Speaker 12: our culture is particularly mimetic, which is an evolutionary phrase

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Speaker 12: what I mean. What I mean by that is we're

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Speaker 12: far more likely than say other cultures. Our people are

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Speaker 12: very prone to kind of wondering and asking what does

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Speaker 12: the majority feel about this? What does the majority think

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Speaker 12: about this? Rather than what do I believe? What do

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Speaker 12: I think what's best for my family? And because of that,

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Speaker 12: there's a vulnerability there that is being exploited by our elites,

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Speaker 12: by political elites. There's also I think a sense of it.

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Speaker 12: I guess it's some kind of post colonial hangover. Because we,

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Speaker 12: you know, are a worldwide country. It's not very obvious

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Speaker 12: that we were commonized, but we were commonized probably for

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Speaker 12: you know, maybe the longest time of all the British colleagues.

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Speaker 12: So I think there's something there in so far as

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Speaker 12: we don't really seem to have confidence in really who

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Speaker 12: we are, and we have this need to get a

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Speaker 12: pat on the head from Europe, you know, to be

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Speaker 12: the best boys in class, to be easily cowed by

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Speaker 12: these super natural agendas and institutions, rather than saying, you know,

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Speaker 12: we're a smaller country, we don't really have any geopolitical significance,

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Speaker 12: but we're just going to do it suits us. And

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Speaker 12: you saw that recently with the referendum in Ireland. The

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Speaker 12: government was trying to bring forward constitutional amendments. We've got

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Speaker 12: a written constitution like you guys in the US. It's

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Speaker 12: from nineteen thirty seven, and there's one article in particular,

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Speaker 12: article forty one point two, the government was trying to

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Speaker 12: remove at the behest of the UN who said it

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Speaker 12: was holding women back and it was discriminatory and old fashioned.

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Speaker 12: But the language actually, when you read it was quite

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Speaker 12: beautiful because it said that the common good can't be

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Speaker 12: achieved by the women, the work of women in the

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Speaker 12: home the common good. The state cannot achieve the common

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Speaker 12: good without this work. And to me that was a

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Speaker 12: very beautiful and radical, really acknowledgment of the unpaid work

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Speaker 12: that women do. The coal society together but seed all

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Speaker 12: and the UN said, no, that's too old fashioned, you know,

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Speaker 12: rip it off, get rid of it. And my organization,

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Speaker 12: the contest had teams in thirty locations, all around Ireland

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Speaker 12: for seven weeks and about five days out we knew

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Speaker 12: we were going to win, even though every single NGO,

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Speaker 12: the two parties of government, and the so called opposition

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Speaker 12: Hinfein were all on the other side of us. It

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Speaker 12: was really a David and Goliath race. But this is

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Speaker 12: one of the opportunities when Arishchepa really got to tell

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Speaker 12: the government what they actually feel about these weird and

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Speaker 12: unwanted ideological policies that are constantly being shoved at us.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's so many things in your answer to

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Speaker 1: get to that I'd be fascinated about, but at the

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Speaker 1: beginning you kind of said, well, Ireland is more of

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Speaker 1: a medic culture. It means, you know, you're trying to

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Speaker 1: assimilate as opposed to be an individual with thoughts, and

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Speaker 1: that's that's where the term meme comes from. And people

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Speaker 1: are familiar with online culture. But I think we saw

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Speaker 1: a lot of that here in the United States too,

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Speaker 1: post nine to eleven, the September eleventh attacks on the

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Speaker 1: World Trade Center. Interestingly enough, because Americans are so nice,

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Speaker 1: the sentiment for Islam actually went up after those attacks,

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Speaker 1: and it seems to be kind of what you're saying

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Speaker 1: is there's this cultural element of like, well along because

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Speaker 1: we want to get along with everybody wants to be

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Speaker 1: nice and friendly. And I think that has represented itself

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Speaker 1: in the way that a lot of European countries, we

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Speaker 1: included you know, in the past, have talked about you know, immigration,

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Speaker 1: people coming into the country. What do you think needs

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Speaker 1: to happen to break that for the people of Ireland

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Speaker 1: or just Western people as a whole to go No,

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Speaker 1: I don't care if you think it's mean. I don't

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Speaker 1: care if you think I'm wrong. I don't care if

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Speaker 1: it's not the nicest way to do it. This is

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Speaker 1: the way that we want society structured, and this is

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Speaker 1: how we're going to do it. What needs to happen

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Speaker 1: to break that?

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Speaker 12: So I think it's a starting off point when it

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Speaker 12: comes to immigration. I think we must legitimize dissenting views,

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Speaker 12: allow them into a very narrow open window as it

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Speaker 12: exists in Ireland, and also say it's perfectly fine to say,

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Speaker 12: let's manage immigration for the benefit of our country, rather

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Speaker 12: than you know, hold on to these sort of abstract

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Speaker 12: luxury beliefs whereby we owe every one who wants to

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Speaker 12: get into a country a home. Like there's a lot

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Speaker 12: of talking points you're hear in our legacy media, our

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Speaker 12: mainstream media. It's like, oh, the Irish rend everywhere, and

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Speaker 12: you know, now it's our turn. But I really refute that.

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Speaker 12: I mean, we weren't put up and forced our hotels

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Speaker 12: with three meals a day, that's for sure, you know

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Speaker 12: when we came to Alice Island, and I think, you know,

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Speaker 12: if people want to work hard and work in that's okay.

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Speaker 12: But like, I'm hardened by the Department of Justice now

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Speaker 12: is starting to harden hopefully not just its rhetorics, but

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Speaker 12: its policies physically. For example, you know, there's easy fixes

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Speaker 12: like don't give people citizenships so quickly, Like asylum should

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Speaker 12: not be the fast tractic the citizenship if indeed you

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Speaker 12: are fleeing war. And like in Ireland, there's a huge

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Speaker 12: appetite which is a good thing for helping genuine refugees,

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Speaker 12: you know, families like mothers, fathers, small children fleeing actual war.

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Speaker 12: But what's happening is that filter or funnel is being

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Speaker 12: used by economic migrants, and so it's choking up that

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Speaker 12: whole route or means in it's destroying goodwill from bona

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Speaker 12: fide asylum seekers. And also it's making it far too

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Speaker 12: easy to be Irish into reunite families. I mean, if

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Speaker 12: you really are fleeing a war, you should just want

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Speaker 12: to be in that country, the host country, until the

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Speaker 12: war is over, right, Like it shouldn't be a backdoor

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Speaker 12: into a country. And I think that we need to

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Speaker 12: make that argument clear and not also, you know what

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Speaker 12: not being manipulated by emotionally evocative first person accounts. We

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Speaker 12: see that all the time in our state media. I

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Speaker 12: say state media, but you know it's heavily funded by

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Speaker 12: the government. We're just like drip fre head, like a

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Speaker 12: propaganda diet of you know, this lovely person. It's hard

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Speaker 12: to debate that this lovely person their great story. And

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Speaker 12: that's exactly the playbook that was used in trans and

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Speaker 12: I'm so aware of that as a campaigner in this field.

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Speaker 12: You know, like wherever you do, if you're watching mainstream

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Speaker 12: media and Ireland, you will be encouraged not to ask

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Speaker 12: the why how, you know, how does this really impact

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Speaker 12: us the big picture? It'll always be the first person accounts,

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Speaker 12: which are impossible to argue with, obviously, because we all

607
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Speaker 12: feel compassion on an individual level. Of course we do.

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Speaker 12: We're human beings.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that is something that goes on in our

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Speaker 1: media all the time. It's look at this, you know,

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Speaker 1: poor beleaguered single mother of AKA. All that's fine, but

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Speaker 1: that doesn't change the policy that should be in place

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Speaker 1: in the United States of America. Lisia de Brune, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much. I appreciate the conversation, and for our viewers,

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Speaker 1: I think this is a really good insight into not

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Speaker 1: only of course, you know we hear are America first,

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Speaker 1: but also at the same time, there is a huge

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Speaker 1: threat to the West as a whole, and it is

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Speaker 1: good to see Western people kind of band together and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: this is not how we want things to run where

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Speaker 1: we live. If you'd like to do that somewhere else,

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Speaker 1: go for it. But Lesha de Brune, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us. Really appreciate you taking the time.

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Speaker 12: Thank you, Thanks so much for having me on.

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Speaker 1: Thank you coming up next here and turning point tonight,

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Speaker 1: we've got some we've got some more fun stuff. I

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Speaker 1: know that that's a little bit serious, but also it's

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Speaker 1: important to talk about saving the West is a thing

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Speaker 1: that we want to do here in America, but also

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Speaker 1: in Western countries more broadly, TPT at TPUSA dot com

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Speaker 1: at tpusa dot com. Coming up next, we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about speaking of pretty sure. Glenn is shaking his

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Speaker 1: head because we're not gonna be able to put either

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Speaker 1: one of these segments on YouTube. Talking about the trans

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Speaker 1: weightlifter that dominated the field in Texas over the weekend

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Speaker 1: got stripped of his belt, A good news ultimately that

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Speaker 1: coming up right after the break, Don't go away.

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Speaker 8: Now, this is the first year that a trans woman

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Speaker 8: is in the competition.

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Speaker 1: How do you feel about that?

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Speaker 2: Amazing?

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Speaker 9: I feel honored to be a part of history.

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of incredible trans friends who are athletes,

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Speaker 1: and so we're all inspired this woman's competing.

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Speaker 8: Uh huh, and.

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Speaker 1: Uh have you actually ever met Heather Swanson?

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Speaker 12: No, I've never competed against her before.

651
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Speaker 1: No, she's not exactly your average trans athlete.

652
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Speaker 8: Well, what is an average trans athlete?

653
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Speaker 12: Honestly, I find that kind of bigoted David.

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Speaker 8: Okay, Heather Swanson is actually joining us now, Miss Swanson,

655
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Speaker 8: how does it feel to be competing today? I can't

656
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Speaker 8: tell you how free I feel now that I've started

657
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Speaker 8: identifying as a woman, Now that I can compete his female,

658
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Speaker 8: I'm ready to smash the other girls. And is it

659
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Speaker 8: correct you just started identifying as female two weeks ago.

660
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Speaker 1: I'm not here to talk about my transition.

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Speaker 8: The AMD's strongest woman this state is ever seen?

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Speaker 1: Any words for the challenger and miss Woman? Uh, good luck, Heather.

663
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Speaker 1: Luck is for dudes. Yeah, I know that was probably

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Speaker 1: rather long, but holy cow, we're playing older clips of

665
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Speaker 1: south Park that turned out to be prophetic in a

666
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Speaker 1: way that might as well have been a cartoon documentary

667
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Speaker 1: of how things have unfolded in the transgender athletes world.

668
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Speaker 1: It's funny as we're doing this particular clip, we thought, originally,

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Speaker 1: I wonder what this is going to do as far

670
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Speaker 1: as copyright is playing a big, long clip of south

671
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Speaker 1: Park when we put it on social media, And then

672
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Speaker 1: I realized, oh, we can't put this on social media anyway,

673
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: because the YouTube overlords hate for some reason us poking

674
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Speaker 1: fun at men who think they are women. But in

675
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Speaker 1: this vein in the idea that this is just a

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Speaker 1: pre recorded documentary of the unfolding of how this is

677
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Speaker 1: all going down. Yesterday, a dude who won a weightlifting

678
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Speaker 1: contest in Texas was stripped of his title because he

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Speaker 1: was competing against women and quote unquote identified as a woman.

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Speaker 1: The Official Strongman Games World Championship took place over the

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Speaker 1: weekend in Arlington, Texas, and a Philadelphia athlete named Jamie Booker,

682
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Speaker 1: who I actually don't know what his his name might

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Speaker 1: have been, Jamie. Jamie's one of those names. It's like

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Speaker 1: Taylor or Sam, one of those kind of not entirely

685
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Speaker 1: sure of what's going on here names. And you know,

686
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Speaker 1: I know plenty of solidly women women named Taylor, and

687
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Speaker 1: solidly men men.

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Speaker 9: Named Taylor as well.

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Speaker 1: I think what I'm trying to say is, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: just judging by the name, that this dude is trying

691
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Speaker 1: to not be a dude. I guess Jamie Booker dominated

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Speaker 1: the competition and won the women's open category. Congres rats Jamie,

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Speaker 1: you did it. Yeah, beat a bunch of ladies.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 1: The runner up is a woman named Andrea Thompson. She's

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Speaker 1: from the UK and was seen storming off the podium

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Speaker 1: after the medal ceremony.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 1: She also called it bs, which is an appropriate term

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Speaker 1: to use uh for this Supposedly, according to Rebecca Roberts,

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Speaker 1: who is a three time champion of the competition, uh,

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Speaker 1: nobody knew that Jamie Booker was born a dude. If

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Speaker 1: they knew, because because you wonder, right when these competitions

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Speaker 1: are happening, why don't athletes just walk off immediately? And

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Speaker 1: maybe some of them did know, but there was an official,

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Speaker 1: you know, designation. But if that's the case, if this woman,

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Speaker 1: Rebecca Roberts, who again won this competition three times, is saying, no,

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Speaker 1: we didn't actually know. It was kept from us at

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Speaker 1: the time, well maybe that's why they actually didn't end

710
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Speaker 1: up competing. You see so many instances, and good for

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Speaker 1: these women, by the way, who just refused, I'm not

712
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: playing this volleyball match against this team with five dudes

713
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Speaker 1: on it.

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Speaker 9: I'm just not.

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Speaker 1: Gonna do that. Or swimming or fencing or whatever other

716
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Speaker 1: of these situations that continually pop up, women just saying yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. So if that is true, I

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Speaker 1: guess I understand why everyone's still competed. It didn't walk off,

719
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Speaker 1: but at the same time, yeah, you still can't do that.

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Speaker 1: The contest rules, according to the actual Strong Men's Games

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Speaker 1: World Championship, clearly stipulate that athletes must compete in the

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Speaker 1: category that aligns with their biological sex at birth. So

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Speaker 1: we've got kind of a trying to dupe everybody. Announcers.

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Speaker 1: Organizers announced that they were completely unaware of this fact

725
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 1: before the competition had been and had been urgently investigating

726
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Speaker 1: since b informed. They said, had they been aware, or

727
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Speaker 1: had they been declared at any point during the competition,

728
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Speaker 1: the athlete would have not been permitted to compete in

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Speaker 1: the women's open category. The bottom line here is, while

730
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Speaker 1: this is horrifying in so many different ways. While it

731
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: is crazy that South Park is effectively doing a cartoon

732
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 1: documentary five six years in advance of the things actually happening,

733
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Speaker 1: it is nice to know that the enough people realize, hey,

734
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Speaker 1: this is a problem to where the official Strongmen Games

735
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 1: would say, yeah, you can't do that. And even though

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Speaker 1: there's a little bit of criticism to be thrown for

737
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Speaker 1: being duped, the fact that they retroactively said oh, absolutely not,

738
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Speaker 1: this is not okay after they were informed is a

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Speaker 1: sign that things are going in the positive direction. Just

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Speaker 1: days after winning, on Tuesday, Jamie Booker was stripped of

741
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Speaker 1: this article. Says her, his title Andrew Thompson the UK

742
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Speaker 1: Lifter was elevated to the winner, which a bunch of

743
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Speaker 1: people were already calling for. All of the competition places

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Speaker 1: were altered accordingly. Bottom line here is that sweet? This

745
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: is good? Does is this problem still going to persist?

746
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Speaker 1: Are we still going to have to keep fighting it?

747
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Speaker 11: Yes?

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent, And it is good to know that

749
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Speaker 1: some people, most people are on the sane side of things.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine that when this Jamie Booker decides to

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Speaker 1: make a public statement, I know, media matters and might

752
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: as touch will be all over it, like why why

753
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Speaker 1: did you not allow this dude to compete with women?

754
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: I would imagine there'll be all over that. But at

755
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: this point Booker has not stated anything publicly, but yeah,

756
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Speaker 1: I think I think this is all honestly a good thing. Yes,

757
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 1: it's crazy that we're in this position. Yes it's crazy

758
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: that we have to keep talking about it, but ultimately

759
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:07,399
Speaker 1: we're in a good position here being able to recognize, yeah,

760
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: this is crazy and nuts and we shouldn't put up

761
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Speaker 1: with it, and the organizers themselves are saying, yeah, we

762
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Speaker 1: already have rules around this, so don't worry, we're taken

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Speaker 1: care of it. Coming up on Turning Point Tonight here

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Speaker 1: in the next segment, I will get some funny stuff

765
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Speaker 1: to react to. It's just we're not phoning it in today.

766
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Speaker 1: We're doing the full effort, but also going into a weekend,

767
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Speaker 1: a long Thanksgiving weekend, we're one we're very focused on

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Speaker 1: what we're thankful for here Turning Point Tonight. But two,

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Speaker 1: you know, we just want to have some fun, laugh

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Speaker 1: a little bit that's coming up after the break tptatpus

771
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Speaker 1: dot com. If you want to send along an email,

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Speaker 1: feel free to do so there. Also, go subscribe to

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Speaker 1: our Turning Point Tonight YouTube channel, where this segment will

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Speaker 1: not be, but a bunch of the other segments will be,

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Speaker 1: So make sure you subscribe there. We'll be right back

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Speaker 1: after the break.

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Speaker 9: Don't go away.

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Speaker 1: That poor woman, if you couldn't hear it, is scared

779
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: she's gonna miss her flight because there's protesters protesting outside

780
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: of LAX because they want more pay for a job

781
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: they do freaking terribly. I hate LAX with a visceral passion.

782
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: At some point someday, someone from Lax is going to

783
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Speaker 1: see just how much vitriolic hatred I have for that

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Speaker 1: god forsaken hell hole of an airport, and they're gonna

785
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Speaker 1: ban me from flying out of there, which, honest to God,

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00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: it'll be more expensive for me to fly out of

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00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 1: the Orange County Airport or the Inland Empire Airport, but

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00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: it'll be worth it, because good lord, is that the

789
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: worst place on earth. The good news is they're going

790
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: to have a ton of people coming into Lax for

791
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: the World Cup, for the Olympics, all of the different

792
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: things going to be happening in the LA area, so

793
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 1: great freaking the international stage is going to see how

794
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: bad Lax Airport is. Uh, and unfortunately we'll probably be

795
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Speaker 1: put on blast. I yeah, good luck. I guess people

796
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: getting your stupid strike to do whatever it is that

797
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 1: the strike is doing. But gosh, I hate that place,

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Speaker 1: and that lady is not deserving of missing her flight

799
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Speaker 1: because you guys want to hay raise. Speaking of travel,

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Speaker 1: I thought this was interesting. It's making some headlines around

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Speaker 1: the internet. I think I probably would have disagreed with

802
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: this not all that long ago. Several years ago. Now,

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Speaker 1: I one percent wholeheartedly agree with the Transportation Secretary Sean

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00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: Duffy when he says, hey, when you're at the airport,

805
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 1: why don't you start acting like a human being. Don't

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00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: show up in your jammies, wear hard shoes and a

807
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: hat and a coat. He didn't say all that, but

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00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: he might as well have watched this as the Transportation

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Speaker 1: Secretary Sean Duffy talking about travel attire and manners.

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Speaker 7: Maybe we should say please and thank you to our

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Speaker 7: pilots and to our to our flight attendants. I think again,

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00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 7: I call this, uh, just maybe dressing with some respect. Uh,

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00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 7: you know, whether it's a pair of jeans and a

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00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 7: and a and a decent shirt. I would encourage people

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Speaker 7: to maybe dress a little better, which encourage us, encourages

816
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 7: us to maybe behave all a little better. Let's try

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Speaker 7: not to wear slippers in and uh and pajamas as

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Speaker 7: we come to the airport. I think that's positive.

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Speaker 1: I used to be the guy that wore the most

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Speaker 1: comfy thing to the airport, and I still do. Maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe the the crux in this that I might be

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Speaker 1: missing is that as I've gotten older, my taste has

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Speaker 1: become a little bit more refined. So maybe the clothes

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00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 1: that also look good are a little bit more comfy

825
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: as well. So maybe that's the revolt revolving uh component here.

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Speaker 1: But I used to be the guy that shoots showed

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Speaker 1: up in sweats and crocs, which is which is fine.

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Speaker 1: I guess you're allowed to do that, But also a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago, I couldn't tell you exactly when

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00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: it might have been from like a jaint. There was

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Speaker 1: a time where Charlie exclusively wore suits on his show,

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Speaker 1: and I wasn't sure why asked HI about it. Is

833
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: like trying to change things up, And I think what

834
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: I gathered from that is that sometimes when you look good,

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Speaker 1: you feel good, you start acting like a better person.

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Speaker 1: There was a college class where I bet a professor

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Speaker 1: that I would wear suit every single day and they'd

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00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: give me like ten extra credit points or whatever it was.

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Speaker 1: And I did, and honest to god, I learned more

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Speaker 1: in that class. I can't attribute it all to the suit.

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00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 1: Maybe part of it was the teacher, Maybe is the environment.

842
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 1: Maybe it was the subject matter that I really enjoyed.

843
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: But if you look better, you perform better. I did

844
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Speaker 1: it in college. Charlie did it on his radio show.

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00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: He kind of passed that on to me. I don't always.

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00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: I am not always in a suit and tie, but

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00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: I do like to dress in a little bit more

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Speaker 1: of a formal way because I feel like the better

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00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: you look, the better you end up acting. So wholeheartedly

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Speaker 1: agree with Sean Duffy there on looking good, especially when

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00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: you're flying places, because there's no I don't know, might

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00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: as well. Dang it, we're not gonna have time to

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Speaker 1: play this clip. We'll save this, We'll save this for

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Speaker 1: next week. I will sign off here saying Happy Thanksgiving,

855
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: have a good time. Remember, conservatives have more liberal friends

856
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: than liberals have conservative friends, So chances are you, as

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Speaker 1: a conservative, may have a lib at your table this evening.

858
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 1: Treat them with kindness and respect, and also nail it

859
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: into their heads that socialism doesn't work. And treat them

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Speaker 1: kindly because chances are, if you have any liberal friends,

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Speaker 1: they have banished you from the table already. And that's okay, No,

862
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 1: that's fine. Have a happy Thanksgiving. We'll see you tomorrow,

863
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: same time, same place. God bless America.