1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Hey everyone, it's Lily and you are hearing me from 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: my far inferior home recording setup. The reason for that 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: is because Fernando Alonso conveniently decided to announce twenty four 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: hours before this episode was slated to drop that he 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: is moving to the Aston Martin Formula One team at 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: the start of the season. Luckily, for us and for you, 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: a lot of the information in this episode is still 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: super relevant. It is also very fun, if I do 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: say so myself. So we'll talk more about Fernando's move 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,319 Speaker 1: when we discuss Aston Martin in a few weeks. So 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,959 Speaker 1: stay tuned, roll the tape. We're good to go. Okay, 12 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: So Michael, yes, congratulations, we have reached the midfield. Yes 13 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: we have. We have gone from best of the rest 14 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: status to true like mid territory. And I mean that 15 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: in the way like gen z TikTok er say, like 16 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: mid we are deafin like right, their average in the middle. 17 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: And to celebrate that, we're talking about a French team. 18 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: I and I own no alpine merch to speak of. 19 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: I brought you a croissant. Yes, yes, I'll eat it. 20 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: It's close to the microphone and it's it's probably a 21 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: little hard at this point. There we go from this 22 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: wonderful bakery. Thank you, really, that's very kind of you 23 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: here god mm hmmm mm hmmmm. They do know how 24 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: to bake ship the French, you know, even though I 25 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: think this bakery is just an American owned bakery that 26 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: don't don't from my Heart Radio and Sports Illustrated studios. 27 00:01:47,240 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: This is choosing sides. Yes one. Wow. So we're in 28 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: the midfield. The team we're talking about today has been 29 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: around the block for a while. They're very chaotic. They've 30 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: been on the grid. They've been off the grid. They 31 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: sold the team that they rebought the team. They are 32 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: also involved with a massive f one scandal. Today's team 33 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: is it's not Alpine. Nope, no Alpine, No Alpine. Alpine. 34 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: Wait to say alpine, and it looks like it's spelled 35 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: like Alpine, but no, we are the French Alpine. We're 36 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: gonna make it complicated exactly, and then we're going to 37 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: be really obnoxious when anyone mispronounces it. So Alpine, I 38 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: will say, off the bat. Alpine is a pain in 39 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: the asked to me personally, because it took forever to 40 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: research all of the name changing and the team buying 41 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 1: and all of this stuff. So they get points out 42 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: of off of my personal book just for that in 43 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: the amount of research this took. But I will let 44 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: the record show I'm not saying it should affect your 45 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: ranking well, but it does. They make it easy to 46 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: say Ferrari or Mercedes. These are these brands that are 47 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: so iconic. So you are making a point that as 48 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: a new fan coming into the sport, maybe all the 49 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: new fans are going to find these teams that are 50 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: already baked with a lot of money because it's just 51 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: easier to be fans exactly. And also, I mean you 52 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: have to explain O l Pen formerly Reno as of 53 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: you know, until it's it's a little bit confusing exactly. 54 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: So in it requires we're reaching like intermediate level knowledge here. 55 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: You need to have a little bit of context. Okay. 56 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: So Reno entered Formula one all the way back in 57 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: seven as a constructor, right, so they were infected team 58 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: on the Grid. They also then began supplying their engines 59 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: to other teams in three. There's about a seven year 60 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: period there. But then Reynault leaves F one two years later. 61 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: In to make this confusing, they still supply engines to 62 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: other teams for another year. I'm already three years after this, 63 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: they start supplying engines yet again. Then they say, we're 64 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: going to buy a team again. Isn't that great? So 65 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: they buy this iconic team called Benetta two thousand two, 66 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: in case you're keeping track of all the dates, they 67 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: rebrand it as rent two thousand five and two thousand six. 68 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: Reno wins both the Driver's Championship and the Constructor's Championship. 69 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: Both times. It's with a driver named Fernando Alonso are 70 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: old foe from the McLaren episode Our Petti as bitch 71 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: from McLaren. We'll get to Fernando and kind of what 72 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: he his whole energy is. In a second, you think 73 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: that's the end of it, that they're in forever. They 74 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: are not. They sell their shares in the company, but 75 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: continue to supply engines to other teams, including Red Bull, 76 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 1: who uses Reno engines to win their four championships. In 77 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: the Rena team becomes a very unsuccessful team called Lotus 78 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: for a couple of years, Lotus Lotus. It was like 79 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,239 Speaker 1: a whole disaster. So then finally in Reno buy shares 80 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: in the team again, they rebranded to Rento, again, again, 81 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: back to Rento, and then, as if this wasn't already 82 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: enough of a journey, they rebranded as Alpine, which is 83 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 1: borderline did and produces only one car. This is Josh 84 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: Rebel n F one YouTuber, and all of a sudden 85 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: their brand is plasted all over the Reno motoriciple program. 86 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, that've either got plans that we don't 87 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: know about. Well, this is just inherently French or some 88 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: mixture of both. I've already lost. I mean, I'm my 89 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: heads in circles. We're not going to do this again. 90 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: I you don't have to. It's not gonna be a 91 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: pop quiz. But all you need to know if they 92 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: were Reno up until the beginning of one, they are 93 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: now Alpine. Those are the two main things you have 94 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: to know. I know it Rena to Alpine. Okay, okay, 95 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: So why obviously you're wondering, probably why rebrand? Is it money? No? Actually, 96 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: the company claims that they want to use this spot 97 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: on the grid right because F one at the end 98 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: of the day, seen by a billion people a year. 99 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: They want to market lesser known Alpine brand within Renault. 100 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: The company. I mean, I don't even know. If I've 101 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: ever seen a Renault car, I would have known that 102 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: Renault was a car brand. But it's not good when 103 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: you've got to spend two minutes describing what the ship 104 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: something is. Definitely think it's a more European oriented brand. Yeah, 105 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: as usual. I don't think the French care about Americans 106 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: or think too highly as us, and that's fair. They 107 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: can do what they want exactly and we can do 108 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: what we want us. I was gonna say, you know, 109 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: it seems to working out for them, but I don't 110 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: know if it is, considering how many times they're in 111 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: and out of this sport and doing whatever they're doing. So, 112 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: speaking of mess so, as I have teased for quite 113 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: some time, they are involved in another massive scandal, another gate. 114 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: We've got another gate, and this came later than the 115 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: first gate by Gates, so you know it's serious and 116 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: they have to then attack on the gate a year later. 117 00:06:55,400 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: So we are talking today about crash Gate. Rash Gate. Yes, 118 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: imagine if there was ever a controversy with a gate, 119 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: like a literal gate gate Gate, Okay, crash Gate. So 120 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: the year is two thousand eight. We are in the 121 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: midst of a giant global recession thanks to American junk 122 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: home bonds, exactly the year that the first Twilight movie 123 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: came out. Oh yeah, that's what I was going to say. Yes, exactly, 124 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: we're you Team Edward or Team Jacob. I don't know 125 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: how those people are. Okay, that's great, that's totally fine. 126 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: I was team Belieds a personality. But anyway, this is 127 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: thus eight. In September of two thousand eight, the Singapore 128 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: Grand Prix is taking place. And the big deal about 129 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: this particular Grand Prix in that particular year is it's 130 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: the first night race in the Formula One history. Yes, 131 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: there's a lot of build up to this race to 132 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: begin with. So at the time Reno Reno has two drivers, 133 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: Fernando Alonso and Nelson p k Jr. Unfortunately, Nelson p 134 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: k Jr. It's not a very good F one driver, 135 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: but he is in F one driving Reno with this 136 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: you know, two time world champion, Fernando Alonso, he's out 137 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: for blood, he really wants the w I'll start with 138 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: what happens, then we'll go backwards into detail. So basically, 139 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: Nelson p k Jr. Crashes during the race and because 140 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: he crashes, his teammate Fernando Alonso inadvertently ends up having 141 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: an advantage and ends up winning the race. That's like 142 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: the long and short of it. At the time, Nelson 143 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: p k Jr. Said, Oh, yeah, I just I crashed. 144 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: It was a simple mistake. It happens. Some people were 145 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: really skeptical and very much were raising eyebrows, but a 146 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: lot of people were also like, you know what, racing 147 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: incidents happened. Sometimes you just get a little bit of 148 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: luck in the sport that that's part of f one, right, 149 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: is the unpredictability, the fact that anything could happen, and 150 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: the idea that a driver would do something like crash 151 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: a car to advantage the team just sounded absurd, right, 152 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 1: That's millions of dollars, that's a driver's life on the line. 153 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: You just can't fat them something like that happening. So 154 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: we skip ahead ten months to July of two thousand nine. 155 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: Reno announces that they are dropping Nelson P. K Jr. 156 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: From the team for for low not good performance basically, 157 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: and he's upset and understandably he does not really have 158 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: any loyalty to this team at this point because they 159 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: have dropped him. Yeah, and they've been pretty not great 160 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: about him in the media, like he wasn't good. You know, 161 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: he's a little humiliated as and again comes from a 162 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: big racing family. It's just it's just kind of a sad, 163 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: depressing state. So he decides it is time to let 164 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: her rip and open his mouth. Now, Senior PK was 165 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: recently sacked by Renno, and he's now claimed that he 166 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: was asked to deliberately crash at a Singapore Grand Prix 167 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: last year, which of course helped Fernando to eventually win 168 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: the race. Here we go, So here's a more technical 169 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: look at what happens during the two thousand eight Singapore 170 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: Grand Prix. Fernando Alonso, you know Reno teammate, who's who's 171 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: kind of the golden boy, the star of that team. 172 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: He actually had been doing well in practice sessions earlier. 173 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 1: There's a lot of excitement. Qualifying happens, and for a 174 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: variety of reasons, Fernando ends up qualifying in p. Fifteen, 175 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: so he is nowhere near the top. Things didn't go 176 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: according to planning. The car broke down and he's somewhat 177 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: down the grid and a seen him so devastated. It's 178 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: almost impossible to win from there. You're you're just fighting 179 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: to get like a point or two right. Typically when 180 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: you're in something like P fifteen and Nelson p k Jr. 181 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 1: Is next to him at P sixteen, Yeah, Renault, it's 182 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: really not not doing well. So according to Nelson p 183 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: k Jr. This is where everything gets very sketchy. So 184 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: if you're starting in the back, you've got less to lose, right, 185 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: you're not in the points. You might take a riskier 186 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: or a more a weirder, a more unconventional strategy to 187 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: try and elevate yourself in the standings, for instance, having 188 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: a lighter fuel load and pitting earlier, you know, changing 189 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: tires up sooner, you know, any number of strategies. What 190 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: they come up with is that Fernando pits incredibly early 191 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: at lap twelve. So he's the first driver to go 192 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: in and pit in. The hope is hey, you know, 193 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: everyone's thinking, oh, he's going to get you know, newer, 194 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: fresher tires and maybe the ideas he's going to go 195 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: on and be able to kind of how to pulled himself, 196 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: you know, ahead of teams and drivers and cars that 197 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: are maybe slower and on top of that are on 198 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: older tires. Right, it makes sense it gets back on 199 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: and very quickly within three laps. So lap fourteen of 200 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 1: this race, Nelson p K Jr. Crashes at turn seventeen. 201 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: You can see the cogs turning with this one. And 202 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: on top of that that is likely I would have 203 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: thought to bring out a safety car is it's off 204 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: the line. The safety car comes out to slow the 205 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: drivers down. It's a physical car that is driving. They 206 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: have to hold back, they're not allowed to pass. And uh, 207 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: on top of that, it's a difficult place to recover cover. 208 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 1: There is not a crane nearby. This turn too quickly 209 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: pull the car out, so they have to get a 210 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: crane over there. They obviously have to collect debris all 211 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: these little pieces of carbon fiber and these parts are 212 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: all over the track. So these cars are obviously slowly 213 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: going around and around. And as we talked about, what 214 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: starts to happen with safety cars is because obviously everyone's 215 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 1: driving at the same speed, the cars begin to bunch up. 216 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: So if you were leading by, you know ten seconds, 217 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: you now have to slow down. You can't pass anyone, 218 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: but no one can pass you and then on top 219 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: of that, the regulations at the time stated that the 220 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: pit lane was closed if a safety car was out 221 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: until all of the cars were bunched up. So everyone 222 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: finally gets bunched up before anyone can pit, and obviously 223 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: Fernando Alonso now has already pitted. He's on the freshest tires, 224 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: and so based on that, basically Fernando ends up towards 225 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: the front. And because of the pit strategy and other 226 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: people having to pit at different times and the chaos 227 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: around any safety car, you know, it throws everyone's strategies 228 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: for a loop. Anybody who is chew a pit stuff, 229 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: he's gonna be really sweating. They're gonna have to come 230 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: in and take a penalty. Fernando ends up winning from p. 231 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: Fifteen in this race. And obviously, now that we know that, 232 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: there's always a little weird coincidences that seem to go on. Yeah, 233 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: you're kind of on your head. I'm shaking my head 234 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: back and forth because I'm not I'm not so sure 235 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: this was such a giant advantage, but okay, I'm still listening. Yes, 236 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: So basically though, what happened, So Nelson P. K Junior 237 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: is Brazilian so Brazilian media starts reporting shortly after Nelson 238 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: p K Jr. Is kind of saying, hey, something actually 239 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: happened here. You know, he's going to the f i 240 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: A and and kind of talking to them and making 241 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: some noise. Yeah, it breaks publicly within the month that 242 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: he is alleging that the two heads of Reno told 243 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: him to crash to give Fernando Alonso this advantage to 244 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: help his race on lap fourteen lap on lap fourteen, 245 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 1: after Fernando had already pitted, which you know they could 246 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: easily tell me is Nelson p K Junior, Hey your 247 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: teammate pitted, you know that that sort of thing. Uh. 248 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: So shortly thereafter we're still in the same like two 249 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: month period after Nelson p K Junior comes forward with 250 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: the allegations, So we're not just like eight months after 251 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: the incident exactly. We're almost a year after the incident. 252 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: So now we're actually a year later, September two nine. 253 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: At this point, the f i A, the governing Bartie body, 254 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: charges Reno with interfering in a two thousand eight Singapore 255 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: gram pri and conspiring with p K to deliberately crash 256 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: his car and put Alonso at an advantage under the 257 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: safety car rules. The two guys who are heading up 258 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: reddo at the time. This is the most like villain 259 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: in a Godfather movie name Flavio Briatore. He's the executive 260 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: director of the team. And then you have executive director 261 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: of engineering Pat Simmons. Less climactic. So you've got Flavio 262 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: and Pat are said to have told Nelson to do 263 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: this according to Nelson Pique. And of course, meanwhile Fernando 264 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: claimsy had no idea that any of this was going on. 265 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: He cannot fathom the team ever doing something like that 266 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: to him, gasp. So this is all going on, there's 267 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: like the Renault team starts threatening legal action against Nelson 268 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: p K Jr. And myself. We put a criminal plans 269 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: to in the High Court of Paris for black mail. Again, 270 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: everything is still building, building building, and they finally have 271 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: this hearing. At this hearing, an anonymous and mysterious Rehno 272 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: employee who's no and his witness X we still know 273 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: who they are comes forward and says they were at 274 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: the alleged pre race meeting where this plan was concocted. 275 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: Shortly after like this hearing and this witness and whatever. 276 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: Reynauld says they're not going to contest the charges from 277 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: the f i A and Bria, Tory and Simmons they 278 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: leave the team very quickly. So Renaud claims, look, we're 279 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: already cleaning house, We're already trying to do the right thing. 280 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: And basically what they get handed down is not a 281 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: one hundred million dollar fine or anything close to it. 282 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: F one's governing buddy f i A gave rey No 283 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: only a two year suspended ban, which means between now 284 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: and if Reynauld misbehaves again, it will be taken out 285 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: of the race. Entiality they can raise for those two years. Yeah, 286 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: but they're like, don't do anything sketchy again during that time. 287 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, a minor slap on the wrist. Uh. 288 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: And then on top of that, they banned Flavio indefinitely 289 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: and Pat our Darling. Pat was banned for five years 290 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: from f i A sanction events Why the difference? And yes, 291 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: so Pat, at a certain point when all of this 292 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: ship was going on, he eventually confesses to knowing the 293 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: plan and they did it, and you know whatever, he 294 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: saves his own ass. So they say, well, Patt at 295 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: Lease came forward again with this whole like honesty thing 296 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: or like he was honest with us eventually kind of 297 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: uh And to this day, Labio Briatore does not you know, 298 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: he's still he's still proclaiming his innocence at the time, 299 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: and to this day, that initial de facto lifetime ban 300 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: for uh briotry is considered the harshest in all of 301 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: motorsports history. And eventually they reduced the bands and and 302 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: all of this stuff, so eventually they're just it's kind 303 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: of said, hey, you guys can't work for a you know, 304 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: an f I a sponsored event or at an event 305 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: to like eleven, it's like really significantly reduced. So basically, 306 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: to to summarize this whole thing, the leaders of the 307 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: team asked, they're not as good driver to crash and 308 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: sacrifice his race to help the other one win. Yeah, 309 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: which puts that driver risk right on top of that 310 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: he could have died, right, I mean, you can't just 311 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: like correct, you gotta make it look like a real crash. Yeah, 312 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: he can't just kind of go two miles an hour 313 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: and kind of barely touched the wall. He if you 314 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: look at photos, he's straight up crash side barrier. It 315 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: looks bad. Yeah, I mean that's just really dangerous. Yeah yeah, yeah, 316 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: I don't think it means anything. I think we now 317 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: go on. We have problems from time to time. As 318 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: long as we solve them and deal with them properly, 319 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: that's fine. And I will say there was very different opinions. 320 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: So you had a former F one world champion and 321 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: team owner named Jackie Stewart said that that there's something 322 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: fundamentally rotten and wrong at the heart of Formula one. 323 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: You know, the sport has never been in such a 324 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: mood of self destruction. Millions of fans are amazed, if 325 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: not disgusted, at a sport that goes from crisis to 326 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: crisis with everyone blaming everyone else. And keep in mind 327 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: this was also only you know, one to two years 328 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: after this whole spygate thing, right. And then on the 329 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: other hand, you had another former driver named Eddie Irvine 330 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,239 Speaker 1: who basically said the whole situation was overblown. He's like, 331 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: it's probably slightly on the wrong side of the cheating thing, 332 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: but in past days, every team has done whatever they 333 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: could to win. Cheat been the les, break the rules, 334 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: sabotage opponents. This is just the f a going on 335 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: a crusade, and the truth is somewhere in between both 336 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: of those. So just to quickly summarize where Alpines at. Now, Yeah, 337 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: they've been generally midfield for a while, some years better 338 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: than others. They finished P five, so smack dab in 339 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: the middle of the championship, and generally there are some 340 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: weeks where they're car seem like they're going to be great, 341 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: and then they kind of fail. They're a little bit 342 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 1: all over the map. However, the drivers give us a 343 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: lot more insight as to what's going on in the 344 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: team than me just explaining this very convoluted team. So 345 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: we'll get into them right after an ad break. All right, 346 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: So we are back and we're talking about Alpines. Two drivers. Yeah, 347 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: who I want to know would two drivers are? Because 348 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: you've called a mid a lot of times and as 349 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: a driver, you don't want to be described as mid 350 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: and much like Lando didn't like me describing him as 351 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: slow and steady. But who are these Alpine drivers? Well, 352 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: we've got to talk about the man of the hour. 353 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: For the first driver we got, Fernando, he is back 354 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: to read the guy who snitched on his own team. 355 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: Stitch on his own team, different team, I will say, 356 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: and then claim to have no knowledge of the other 357 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: major scandal he was involved in. Uh yeah, at Reno. 358 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: To keep in mind too, he did win his two 359 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: world titles with Reno back in the mid two thousand's. 360 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: He is his start and F one was all the 361 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: way back in two thousand one. See sorry, we talked 362 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: about Fernando Worlds. So Fernando has been around for a while. 363 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: He has taken breaks from the sports. So he left. 364 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: For instance, he went back to McLaren in the late 365 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: tens before Lando came in, and he was having such 366 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: a miserable time that he left and tried to do 367 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: some other endurance racing and IndyCar. At one point he's 368 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: he's tried other stuff in between his many stints in 369 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: Formula one. You see the oldest driver on the grid. 370 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: He is currently the oldest driver by yeah, at least 371 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: at least three or four years. So picture him listening 372 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: to like AM radio while he drives, you know, because 373 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: he's old, and he puts his hands up on the 374 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: thing and it goes real slow, puts his golf clubs 375 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: in the trunk. Okay, stop, if anyone is the most 376 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: contentious driver on the grid. He's definitely in the running 377 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 1: for it because he's been around for forever. He's got 378 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: people who love him who are die hard Fernando Alonso fans, 379 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: he has got people who despise him the exactly like, 380 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: why are you still here? All of that stuff. It's 381 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: impressive the longevity his career. D Yeah, So okay, I 382 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: have some photos of Fernando alright, Fernando Alonzo. So this 383 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: guy looks a little shady. He also looks very intense 384 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: because that bottom right foot of him, like yelling, is 385 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: from when he won one of his world championships. So 386 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: he it's like you can just see the emotion. Yeah, 387 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: in that in that pose, it's just like arms up 388 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: like a lion roar. Basically, yeah, is this a win 389 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: at all costs? Guy? He has a win at all 390 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: cost guy? So okay, So I feel like we're saying 391 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: we're kind of like Fernando. It's the vibe. It's possible. 392 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: Why is he still around? I mean, is he is 393 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: there something I'm missing here? First of all, you know 394 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 1: that the one reason or one of the big reasons 395 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: a lot of teams keep older drivers around is They 396 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: come with a lot of experience. They know how to 397 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: talk about cars, they know how to really explain how 398 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: they're feeling in a car, what's not working, and also 399 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: obviously has built up the you know, the intuition. You know, 400 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 1: he knows, he's seen every scenario at this point, he 401 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: knows what to do. I get out of this place 402 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: is good. We're looking at the plan A plus aid 403 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: Plan A plus. Fernando is a great all around driver. 404 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: He's obviously very very aggressive, but what he is known for, 405 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: he's probably the best defender on the grid. Drivers live 406 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: in fear of having to be told by their teams 407 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: to pass Fernando Alonso iconically. In one there is a race, 408 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: the Hungarian Grand Prix, and there was a massive rain 409 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: storm and literally the start so we don't even get 410 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: through the first turn of the race. The cars end 411 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: up taking each other out like bowling pins after a 412 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: Ferrari and the Santa macarn it's literally whoever ends up 413 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: bypassing this situation kind of ends up in the front. 414 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: So you've got a wacky, wacky, wacky series of drivers. 415 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: So you have actually Fernando Alonzo's teammate, who will talk 416 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: about in a second, Espano con ends up in the 417 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: first place position, spans in the lead. Fernando's a little 418 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: bit back behind him. He's in like P. Three. But 419 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: coming up behind Fernando is Lewis Hamilton's and the Mercedes 420 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: is just booking it. So they basically they're like, Fernando, 421 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: we need you to hold off Louis Hamilton's, who's in 422 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: a far superior car for as long as you possibly can, 423 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: so that st Bond can win the damn race. Somehow 424 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: is keeping Hamilton? This is incredible. You can just see 425 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: and hear and feel the frustration for Louis Hamilton's, you know, 426 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: former teammate. These two people do not like each other. Yes, 427 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: Louis Hamilton's on the radio is just exasperated you saved 428 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: over me. Man, Come on, come on man, Like that 429 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: had to be illegal. They're like, no, Fernando is just 430 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: out defending like your offense. What a brilliant defensive drive 431 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: he's doing today, isn't it amazing? So you can block? Yeah, 432 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: the rules around making sure you aren't like for doing 433 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: all on Michael Schumacher, like just smashing into someone. But yeah, 434 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: like like Fernando's doing everything by the book, He's just 435 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: that good and every turn you just see Louis goes. 436 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: But then Fernando will like block him just enough legally 437 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: to keep him from passing. Almost ended up in contacts, 438 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: and essentially Fernando Alonso in a not as fast whatsoever 439 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: Alpine holds off Lewis's Mercedes for ten laps, which enables 440 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: Estebond to win this race. So something to keep in 441 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: mind too is that defending actually can harm your own race. 442 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: So for instance, if you just let someone like Louis through, 443 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: you save your tires, they're not going to get worn 444 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,239 Speaker 1: down as quickly saving fuel, you know, You're just you're 445 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: just being in more of a conservation effort, which is 446 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: why you do see often if you know a car 447 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: sees a much faster car coming up on them, they'll 448 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: just let them pass. I mean, they won't completely lie 449 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: down and play dead, but they're like, what's the point 450 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: of me fighting this faster car. So it really was 451 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to say selfless, but it was very 452 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: helpful of Alonso to say, you know what, I'm gonna 453 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: fight this guy. I'm gonna really go after this defense. 454 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: I want to funk with Louis. You know, I want 455 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 1: to help my teammate. Whatever was going through his mind, 456 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: it shouldn't be understated that it was in fact, you know, 457 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: to the detriment somewhat to to Fernando's race. He was 458 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: sacrificing his race, either for the betterment of his team 459 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: or to funk with his old teammate or both. Yeah, 460 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: he's a man of multip my therapist tells me all 461 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: the time. Both things could be true. Yeah, definitely a 462 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: guy who you want on your team for sure when 463 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: you need a defender or someone to kind of be 464 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: on your side, Like he's the guy you want to 465 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: to to just go after it. Not bad for an 466 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: old guy, Fernande, Yes, still, but yeah, I will say 467 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: there are people who are like ready for him to 468 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: get out of there. Like I said, he's turning forty 469 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: one this summer. I mean that is a remarkable feat. 470 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 1: You know, we talked about Lando at McLaren, who's twenty two. 471 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: This guy's forty one. I mean that is just so 472 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: much experience. Yeah, so it's obviously very good at f one. 473 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: He just might not be great at some of the 474 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: uh you know, finer points of off track etiquette. Yeah, 475 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: there is something to be said, for someone that is 476 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: still at world class level at that age, that's pretty remarkable. 477 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 1: Yeah uh yeah. I mean the other big argument against him, 478 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: I would say, is that, you know, every time you 479 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: have a driver like that who's there for a long 480 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: time and maybe maybe overstaying their welcome, they keep other 481 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: younger drivers in talent out. They've got some junior drivers. 482 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: We're hearing from Josh Revel again, do you have one 483 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: everything in the junior Fumula ranks who are looking at 484 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: the no vacancies and thinking, okay, great, when are we 485 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: getting into Formula one? Oh? And not? Why not? Because 486 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: we signed a mercurial French driver and an aging Spaniards 487 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: and we think, yep, that's what we need for our 488 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: Drava lineup in Formula two. So as you know, the 489 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 1: junior category right below Formula one. The driver who won 490 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: that Oscar Piastre. He he is just like a baby 491 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: faced cherub. He is like adorable, you know, he's like 492 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: nineteen twenty. There's a lot of hype around Oscar Oscars 493 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: in Alpines Young Driver's development program, and they basically have 494 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 1: no where to promote him because they're keeping someone like Fernando, 495 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: who's much older and definitely at the end of his career. 496 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,479 Speaker 1: We don't need no junior formula. My stray will be 497 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: fine with what we've got right now, which is why 498 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: we're exactly bang average and Formula one. So besides Fernando, 499 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: who's in the other car that is, in fact Esteban, 500 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: oh Cod the other the other guy. I feel like 501 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: I've talked about Fernando in several episodes and now it's like, 502 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: oh yeah, and Esteban's there. So Estebon is more of 503 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: an enigma on the grid than the average driver. He's 504 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: interesting and that it's very well known that he does 505 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: not come from money, and the big story that's told 506 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: about him is that his dad's actually mechanic and when 507 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: he was growing up, they saw that he had affinity 508 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: for carding, so they actually sold their family home lived 509 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: out of an RV so they could drive around to 510 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: carting competitions with him, and his dad did all the 511 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: work on Esteban's cart, Yeah, to save money and because 512 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: he obviously knew what to do. So it really was 513 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: this family affair. They're very close and very tighten it. 514 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: So I guess if you have like slight eat the 515 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: rich vibe in a sport that everyone's rich. Uh, he 516 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: could potentially be one of your guys, um, but yeah, so, 517 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: Esteban definitely is known for being a little bit scrappier, 518 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: being a little bit elbows out than than the average 519 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: driver because he wants it so badly and obviously a 520 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: lot of sacrifices were made to get him to this point. 521 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't get I think, much grittier than like, 522 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: we literally sold our home to fund your career. Dad's 523 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: the mechanic. Yeah, that's a mechanic. He definitely has had 524 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: a much more chaotic career in terms of it very talented, 525 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: has won things in the junior categories and whatnot, but 526 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: definitely bounced around in the sense that he's never really 527 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: been a team's number one driver, even at Alpine. It's 528 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: kind of a weird dynamic with the Fernando right because 529 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: Estebon is seen as like the future of the team 530 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: and also Alpinea French company loves having a French driver 531 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: and Esteban that's a that's a huge boon for any team. 532 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: But Fernando Alonso is Fernando Alonso. So even if you 533 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: are kind of considered the future and the the big 534 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: talent going forward. It's hard to you know, not feel 535 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: overshadowed by such an icon and legend of the sport. 536 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: He is Fernando Alonso for a reason. Another interesting thing 537 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: to note is Estebon is managed by Total Wolf at Mercedes. Yeah, 538 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: as we know, it's it's a very fun ethical minefield 539 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: over in F one. So I have to be like, Okay, 540 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: maybe there is more to Estebon than what we're seeing. 541 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: We gotta do a quick break and then we'll be back. 542 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: So I guess when it comes to Alpine in terms 543 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: of pitching the team, I mean, it's kind of a 544 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: weird one. What is the grand plans? I'm not entirely 545 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: sure because they say, you know, we're looking to win 546 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: in Formula one, Josh Revel again, Okay, when in Formula 547 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: one with your current package, good luck. You've got about 548 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: nine other teams that have the exact same freaking goal. 549 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: What stands them out amongst the others kind of hopes 550 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: and dreams and arguably living into that and in six 551 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: they are a bit of an enigma for sure. As 552 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: of the middle of the two season, things have been 553 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: a little rocky at times for Alpine, but they are 554 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: still in the hunt for best of the rest status. 555 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: They're very comfortably at the top of the midfield, and 556 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: both their drivers, Fernando and Esteban, have had relatively good seasons. Um. 557 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: Fernando unfortunately has had some bad luck with you know, 558 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: an engine not starting here or there. Esteban has quietly 559 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: done pretty darn well all things considered. So again I 560 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: feel I feel bad saying it, but Alpine is doing 561 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: very mid But I actually kind of mean that in 562 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: a good way. They're under the radar. They're a little 563 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: bit quiet, but we could see some really interesting stuff 564 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: in the back half of two if they keep at 565 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: it and other teams kind of fall off. I wish 566 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: I had a more like exciting pitch for you for Alpine, 567 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: but there are some people who really love Alpine. I 568 00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: like their colors. I like their name. It sounds like eeek, 569 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: you know, top of the mountain h And I liked 570 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: that this guy is forty one years old, you know, 571 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: fun the young guys, they'll get their shot, but he's 572 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: holding on. He's a grizzly old veteran grinding it out. 573 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: And uh, I certainly liked that he played such a 574 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: good defense against Louis Hamilton. That's that's that's a fun story. 575 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: But no, they're not jumping off the page. For me, 576 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: French hurts. It hurts being French, but that's not even 577 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: their fault. It's hard to really devote your energy to 578 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: it thinking in two years they're gonna be making engines. 579 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: In three years quit and then to five years come back, 580 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: and yeah, I would love another, not another I would 581 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: say crash Gate. I would love another scandal involving LPN. 582 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: They need something to put them back on the map 583 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: because it's been a while since crash Gate. It's been 584 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: a decade and a half. We need something new. And 585 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: then when we come to the driver's here, Yeah Fernando, 586 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: I mean and YOHI actually said this, but I think 587 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: it's true. Is that Fernando, despite being in the sport 588 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: for two decades, basically he still drives like a rookies 589 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: who's got something to prove, right, Like he drives lights out, 590 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: like every race could be his last. I mean at 591 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: this point he is getting older, so the end could 592 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: come is going to come sooner rather than later for him. 593 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: That's a tremendous quality in a competitor because he's got money, 594 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: so he doesn't necessarily need to do this, but he 595 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: obviously every race he's going to try to win. That's unbelievable. Yeah, 596 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: and I mean great defender, just a fun guy to watch. 597 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: So if you're someone who likes you know, I want 598 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: to a I want to follow great racers, right like Fernando, Well, 599 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't have the chance always, but if 600 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: he gets it, he will put on the show. Like 601 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: you will not be disappointed watching him fly around and 602 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: hold people back and and generally go lights out the 603 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: entire time. I will say Esteban is great in the 604 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: sense that there's I think I think there's just a 605 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: lot there that we haven't quite seen yet. He is 606 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: in his mid twenties and I think that these next 607 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: couple of years could be really defining for him. So 608 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: if you are someone who likes a little bit of 609 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: an enigma who definitely also has a lot of fighting them, right, Like, 610 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: he comes from a back ground where his family and 611 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: him had to really work for it. He knew the 612 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,239 Speaker 1: pressure he was undertook perform so that it wasn't all 613 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: for not for his parents and his family. You know, 614 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: he is a guy who can, like I said, put 615 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: some elbows out, which isn't always everyone's favorite, but there 616 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 1: is a fire there and it's just a matter of 617 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: when it comes out and when it really dominates. And 618 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: his dad working on the car when he was a kid. 619 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: That's cool and it's a good story. And I know 620 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: he he mentioned it in that one video I watched, 621 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: but he was he was like, I used to sleep 622 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: by the track in the van. Now I'm in this 623 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: like really nice trailer. And he was like really appreciative 624 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: of that, and that was cool to hear him say that. Yeah, 625 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: he's got perspective. He was raising against kids who would 626 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: would roll up with these multimillion dollar cars and what 627 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: you know, he's just out there with his mom and 628 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: dad for sure. Yeah, I will say he's someone who 629 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: often is seen as either an underrated driver or at 630 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: the very least overlooked. He's kind of forgotten about. He's 631 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: in this midfield team. He's had a couple of moments 632 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: of real brilliance and f one, but there's not to 633 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: be said for being a little bit more low key 634 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: and on top of that, total wolf is man him. 635 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: So if if Toto and the Mercedes Jugger not see 636 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: something in you that can't be forgotten or sort of 637 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 1: written off. And some people are late bloomers in every sport. 638 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: We see this. Even as teams, we see this, as coaches, 639 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 1: we see this. Some people take some time to get 640 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: the confidence. And maybe that's what's happening. Oh definitely. So 641 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: I definitely have never counted Estebon out. Who knows what's 642 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: going to happen with him. So, Michael, we are officially 643 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: halfway through the F one grid. Who are you feeling 644 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: the most right now? I've embarrassed that I put so 645 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: much emphasis on colors and brand names, but I really 646 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:47,720 Speaker 1: love learning about the component of what's made each driver, 647 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: you know, as a controversy, the dad working on the car, 648 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: the dad that pushed him to be the bet a 649 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: lot of dad, Like I said, dad issues. It's hard 650 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: for me to connect with Alp Mercedes. I feel the 651 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: same way Red Bull. That guy Christian pisces me off. 652 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: Uh McLaren, I can see what people are talking about 653 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: with McLaren um, but I'm still coming back to this 654 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: Ferrari on the poster of my bedroom, and I like 655 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: the vibe A little bit of them, and I could 656 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,439 Speaker 1: be off, but that's still where I'm at. And who 657 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 1: else did I miss? So I'm not going to make 658 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 1: you rank all the drivers, but which which? Which? Like 659 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: two to three drivers thus far are you excited about? 660 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: I'm liking what just listening to you talk about, I'm 661 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: liking how always in contention Alpha Great White Shark, Lewis 662 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: Hamilton's seems to just always be. I mean it seems 663 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: like every race we talked about your like, and then 664 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: Lewis was about to win, You know what I mean? 665 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: I like that. That's just like pure dominance is unbelievable. 666 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: How do you achieve that? But you know from from 667 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: asking me this question, I always like these underdog guys. 668 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: I always like the people that are assumed to be 669 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: number two. I hate the number two things. These are 670 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: all world class drivers, but it's like kids. You you 671 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: really do as a parent, need to love one of 672 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: them more so I didn't, did I answer your question? Yeah? 673 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,399 Speaker 1: Kind of. I still like George Russell. I know that's 674 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: what you're really getting at. No, we like George, Yeah, 675 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:26,720 Speaker 1: and I like Charles Sure, I like him. I like him, 676 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: um Lando Daniel as Demano, Fernando I could I can 677 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: leave him on the in the paddock, so to speak. 678 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 1: It pains me slightly because I, as we know, I 679 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 1: like Lando, I have I have an interesting soft spot 680 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: for for an estebond character. But I I see where 681 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: your your your minded head are going. I think what 682 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 1: maybe you're finding with me is I am I'm in 683 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 1: on the sport. I love the competition of it. I'm 684 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 1: loving this whole new world I didn't know about. But 685 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,479 Speaker 1: it's gonna take me some time to really figure out 686 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: whom I'm in love with. Does that make sense? Well, 687 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: as you know, we're only halfway through, so we've got 688 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 1: a lot of teams to discuss, a lot of drivers, 689 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: a lot more chaos. We've got some real dark horses 690 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,399 Speaker 1: and wild cards in the mix, especially as we get 691 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: further down the grid. You've gotta be a little bit 692 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: scrappy to be on some teams that are perpetually towards 693 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: the bottom of the midfield or even at the bottom 694 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: of the standings there. So there's lots more to to 695 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: see and to hear about. I'm gonna like the people 696 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 1: that are the grittiest down there. Yeah, So next week 697 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: we finally get to talk about the Red Bull sister 698 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: Team Alpha Towery, which I'm sure you're wondering, what the 699 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 1: heck does a sister team, junior team whatever even do? 700 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: So settled be next week? Are we all good? Okay? Um? Yeah? 701 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: I think it is a rapid This has been Choosing 702 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: Sides F one, a production of Sports Illustrated Studios and 703 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. The show is hosted by Michael Costa 704 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: and Lily Harp. 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