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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, good to have you with us here on

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Speaker 2: a Thursday edition of One Bills Live. Chris Brown, Maddy

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Speaker 2: Glab here with you. Steve is off and got plenty

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Speaker 2: to get into today. And look we can cover draft

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Speaker 2: because Combine's coming up next week. Mattie and I'll be

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Speaker 2: there for wall to wall Monday to Friday. We're going

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Speaker 2: five days this year, not just four. And you know

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Speaker 2: we've got free agency on the horizon as well. Who

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Speaker 2: are second hour guest we will discuss with in earnest.

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Speaker 2: We'll let you know who that is in just a second.

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Speaker 2: Before we get to all of that, Maddie, I gotta

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Speaker 2: tell you, we know that the cost of everything goes up,

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Speaker 2: and I know a lot of people have been up

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Speaker 2: in arms about the cost of food, groceries and all

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Speaker 2: of that stuff. I came back from two places yesterday

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Speaker 2: One was the I'll just say, the computer store where

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Speaker 2: I had to buy ink, oh, no printer, ink for

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Speaker 2: the home printer.

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Speaker 3: It's expensive, it is.

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Speaker 2: Off the chain, so I've you know, I got a

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Speaker 2: cartridge kind of printer thing. So you get a pack

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Speaker 2: of four that are all the colors, you know, black, cyan, magenta,

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Speaker 2: and yellow, and I'm like, all right, you know, like

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Speaker 2: in the last couple of years it's been creeping up,

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Speaker 2: a pack, that's usually around sixty sixty five dollars, which

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Speaker 2: is a lot. Already, it went up like it's almost

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Speaker 2: ninety now. I was like, when did this happen? This

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Speaker 2: is like a it's like a thirty three percent markup.

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Speaker 2: I was like, what, So I did a double take.

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Speaker 2: When the guy's like, oh, that'll be ninety whatever, I

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Speaker 2: was like, what is going on? And then the second

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Speaker 2: place was the vet had to take the dog in

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Speaker 2: for the vaccinations, the fleeing tick medication and you know,

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Speaker 2: the refills on that, and then you know, the blood work.

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Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna tell you what that was because

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Speaker 2: it's crazy. And I know there's people out there that

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Speaker 2: God Forbid has to have you know, surgery or something,

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Speaker 2: and I guess there's some coverage there. I was like

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Speaker 2: I can't do all that, but uh yeah, I came

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Speaker 2: because I was zipping plastic through going good lord, I'm

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Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it so annoying. I went out to

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Speaker 3: dinner the other night with my husband and we ordered

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Speaker 3: a couple drinks and like cocktails were like sixteen or

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Speaker 3: we cannot fall into this scam anymore. We're not buying

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Speaker 3: sixteen or eighteen dollars cocktails. Let's make our drinks as well.

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Speaker 3: We can't have a drink like, come on, you could

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Speaker 3: buy almost a bottle of liquor.

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Speaker 2: For that price. Pregame and take an uber. Yeah, what

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Speaker 2: the heck? Pre game at home? Take an uber?

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Speaker 3: I feel you, brownie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So I was just I had sticker shock yesterday

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Speaker 2: But we do have NFL stuff to get to and

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Speaker 2: we're going to do that. And it starts with Bills

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Speaker 2: News today, and it begins with head coach Sean McDermott.

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Speaker 2: He along with Rams head coach Sean McVeigh have both

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Speaker 2: been named to the NFL's Competition Committee. Those jobs are

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Speaker 2: appointed by Commissioner Roger Goodell, so those two will have

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Speaker 2: next week. So kind of cool to see some Bills

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Speaker 2: representation there, and I think too, Maddie, it's also pretty

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Speaker 2: reflective of the respect that coach McDermott has garnered around

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Speaker 2: the league in his seven years as head coach of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. I love that he was recognized in this way.

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Speaker 3: I feel like that's how we recognize him within this building,

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Speaker 3: awesome that him and Sean McVay will both be a

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Speaker 3: the next owners meetings coming up end of.

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Speaker 2: March is when that is, and they're replacing because you

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Speaker 2: on the Competition Committee. And the three departing members who

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Speaker 2: Now there isn't a set number of Competition Committee size

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Speaker 2: seven eight total counting McVeigh and McDermott. So it went

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Speaker 2: McVeigh the newest appointees. I wonder It's funny. I was

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Speaker 2: already getting some Twitter feedback from Bill's fans when I

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Speaker 2: He hasn't his first meeting. People want coach McDermott to

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Speaker 2: you know. And we'll catch up with coach McDermott next

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Speaker 2: guarantee Matt he probably one of the biggest topics for

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Speaker 2: the Competition Committee this offseason will be how the kickoffs

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Speaker 2: are going to look. We already saw reports how they

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Speaker 2: So there's gonna be a lot of conversation about that.

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Speaker 2: That's probably number one on their list, I would think, yeah.

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Speaker 3: And they review all competitive aspects of the game, including

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Speaker 3: When they meet up at the NFL Scouting Combine, which

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The other interesting note concerning the Bills, there was

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Speaker 2: a piece put together on NFL dot Com by Kevin

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Speaker 2: Patra who assessed the current receiver situation for every team

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Speaker 2: potential departure of Gabriel Davis, and you have two other

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Speaker 2: know what's going to happen with Deontay Hardy, who may

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Speaker 2: have a cost prohibitive cat figure. We'll have to see,

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Speaker 2: but this is what they said about the Bills situation

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Speaker 2: dismissed thoughts of parting with the star receiver, and Diggs

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Speaker 2: has repeatedly said he wants to be in Buffalo. Yet

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Speaker 2: even with everyone saying all the right words, there persists

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Speaker 2: Moving Diggs pre June first would give the Bills a

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Speaker 2: an extremely shallow receiving corps. Buffalo will likely explore bringing

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Speaker 2: the narrative on Diggs persists to me. Here is where

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Speaker 2: it doesn't make sense as far as I look at it,

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Speaker 2: This national narrative I'm talking about, like, oh, Diggs can

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Speaker 2: That's number one. I know that changes June first, and

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Speaker 3: I think it's so silly that conversation from the national

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Speaker 3: narrative that continues on Stephan Diggs. He's loved playing in Buffalo,

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Speaker 3: He's said time and time again. You know this is

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Speaker 3: for Josh Allen. I don't think the book is closed

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Speaker 3: his season. I don't think that all falls on Stefan Diggs.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that all falls on Josh Allen or

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Speaker 3: Joe Brady. I think it's a collective thing. You get

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Speaker 3: How can we get him involved more along with other receivers.

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Speaker 3: This is your number one receiver on the team. I

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Speaker 3: don't understand why you would want to part ways with

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Speaker 3: him when you look at what he's done in his

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Speaker 3: breaking records for what wide receivers have done in a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean even with that drop off in

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Speaker 2: I just don't see how that makes sense. And we

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Speaker 2: heard Brandon Bean at a season wrap up press conference

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Speaker 2: essentially say he still believes to Fon Diggs is a

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Speaker 2: number one caliber wide receiver. So and I think you

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Speaker 2: help him if you augment the receiving corps with more talent,

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Speaker 2: either a high investment in the draft, something in free

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Speaker 2: plays out. But I really don't foresee a parting of

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Speaker 2: of their latest guys, Gennaro Felice, put out his mock

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Speaker 2: But we'll see what happened.

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Speaker 6: Okay? I tried to make my point yesterday and my

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Speaker 2: is what you need to get to the playoffs, but

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Speaker 2: what you need to win the Super Bowl is an offense.

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Speaker 2: And granted Kansas City did it with maybe their worst

436
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Speaker 2: offense to the Reid era, but they got the difference maker.

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Speaker 2: And that's Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: I was going to say, look at Kansas City's defense

439
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Speaker 3: this year and how much of a difference maker that

440
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Speaker 3: was when the offense was down, and you look at

441
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Speaker 3: what teams scored on Kansas City in the.

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Speaker 2: Postseason, Bills had the most points in the Bills had the.

443
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Speaker 3: Most points twenty four. The second most was the forty

444
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Speaker 3: nine ers with twenty two points scored on the Kansaity Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: That was an overtime.

446
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Speaker 3: In overtime, Kansity Chiefs didn't reach thirty points. Though it's

447
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Speaker 3: not like scoring the most points. Do you have the

448
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Speaker 3: number thirty in your mind? In the playoffs, the Chiefs

449
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Speaker 3: scored twenty six points, twenty seven points, then seventeen and

450
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Speaker 3: twenty five. So maybe the lucky number there, at least

451
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Speaker 3: in last year was the upper twenties. The Bills were

452
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Speaker 3: right there with the Chiefs twenty four.

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Speaker 2: They're not far off, No, they're really not. And I

454
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Speaker 2: know that Bills fans might be, you know, getting a

455
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Speaker 2: little impatient when we get to March and free agency

456
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Speaker 2: opens and the Bills start signing defensive players, but that's

457
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Speaker 2: because they've got a lot more holes on the defensive

458
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Speaker 2: side of the ball. You've got at least one safety

459
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Speaker 2: spot starting safety spot open now potentially too depending on

460
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Speaker 2: who could be a cap casualty. You may you have

461
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Speaker 2: openings all across the defensive front because only four of

462
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Speaker 2: the twelve defensive linemen are under contract, eight to the

463
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Speaker 2: other eight are free agents, and a couple are going

464
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Speaker 2: to be too costly to retain. So just by a

465
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Speaker 2: sheer number standpoint, you have more starting roles open on

466
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Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball than on offense. We're

467
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Speaker 2: the only one might be number two receiver if Gabe

468
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Speaker 2: Davis doesn't come back, one starter on offense. So in

469
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Speaker 2: the early going, I think there is going to be

470
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Speaker 2: a defensive focus just because of the holes you have

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Speaker 2: to fill. And I can see Bills fans now going,

472
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Speaker 2: oh my god, we're spending more assets on defensell You

473
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Speaker 2: kind of have to just because of the holes that

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Speaker 2: currently exist there. So don't get all in a panic

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Speaker 2: if Brandon being goes about addressing the defensive holes on

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Speaker 2: this roster first, because it's probably going to.

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Speaker 3: Happen and I was just going to say tell yourself

478
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Speaker 3: that if we're addressing these defensive holes and free agency

479
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Speaker 3: is loaded with defensive signings, just think we're just freeing

480
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Speaker 3: it up for the offense. In the draft, we're getting

481
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Speaker 3: our ducks in a row for what the defense needs.

482
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Speaker 3: We're dealing with our needs right now in free agency.

483
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Speaker 3: The draft is all about your wants. The draft is

484
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Speaker 3: about what's the best player available, and hopefully some of

485
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Speaker 3: those guys are going to be on offense when it's

486
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Speaker 3: time for that number twenty eighth overall pick.

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Speaker 2: Do need to tell you that? Coming up in our

488
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Speaker 2: number two, we're going to have a conversation with Eric

489
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Speaker 2: at Holme from NFL dot Com. He's been putting stuff

490
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Speaker 2: together of late on the division on free agency coming up.

491
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Speaker 2: He also had a Bills outlook as well, So we

492
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Speaker 2: look forward to that conversation and our number two Eric

493
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: get home from NFL dot Com, So be sure to

494
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Speaker 2: stay tuned for that. But in the meantime, it's you

495
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Speaker 2: and your phone calls as we are asking you, what

496
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Speaker 2: are you hoping to hear about the Bills at next

497
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Speaker 2: week's NFL combine. Could be something about the roster, could

498
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Speaker 2: be something about one of their free agents, could be

499
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Speaker 2: something about their inclinations in the draft, although it'd be

500
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Speaker 2: hard to kind of pull anything concrete out of GM

501
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Speaker 2: Brandon Bean or head coach Sean McDermott, And understandably so,

502
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Speaker 2: you want to keep your cards close to the vest

503
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Speaker 2: this time of year, although some people will also tell

504
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Speaker 2: you that it's lying season. Lying season begins now as

505
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 2: gms try to throw other teams off the scent, so

506
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Speaker 2: to speak. But free agency will have a lot to

507
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Speaker 2: say about where the Bills go in the draft. And

508
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Speaker 2: as we know, Brandon Bean tries to fill as many

509
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Speaker 2: holes as possible with free agency so he doesn't have

510
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Speaker 2: to reach for a positional need when he's on the

511
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Speaker 2: clock in the draft, and he's done a pretty good

512
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Speaker 2: job of that in recent years. I mean, very few

513
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Speaker 2: glaring holes are there. It might be a little bit

514
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Speaker 2: more of a challenge this year, though, Maddie, because first

515
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Speaker 2: they've got to get cap compliant, and you know, clear

516
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Speaker 2: fifty million in cap space just to get cap compliant.

517
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Speaker 2: Then we've estimated they've got to clear about another fifteen

518
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Speaker 2: million just for their draft class, where they currently have

519
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Speaker 2: twelve ten picks or at least projected ten, presuming they

520
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Speaker 2: get the compensatory for the loss of Tremaine Edmonds, and

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Speaker 2: then how much are you allocating to free agents? That's

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Speaker 2: the other question. So I think it's gonna be a

523
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Speaker 2: little more tricky this year than it's been in recent years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we heard Brandon Bean speak at the end of

525
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Speaker 3: the season and he said, this is going to be

526
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Speaker 3: a really big off season for us, knowing what we're

527
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Speaker 3: going to have to do now they don't have that

528
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Speaker 3: cap number. Maybe that's one thing that we all want

529
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Speaker 3: out of the combinas to hear that the cap in

530
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four is going to be higher than expect use.

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Speaker 3: That would be incredible.

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Speaker 2: Has been reported that it might get up to two fifty.

533
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Speaker 3: So maybe that would help him out.

534
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Speaker 2: But yeah, we extra seven million will help.

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Speaker 3: Oh Yeah, he's got his work cut out for him.

536
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Speaker 3: But I think we can all trust in what he's

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Speaker 3: capable of. I don't think he's shown us that we

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Speaker 3: shouldn't trust in him in any way, shape or form,

539
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Speaker 3: because of how he's operated in this position since he

540
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Speaker 3: came to Buffalo in twenty seventeen, clearing a lot of

541
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Speaker 3: big name players out in that first season to make

542
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Speaker 3: room for Josh Allen and Stefan Diggs and Von Miller.

543
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Speaker 3: They've signed some really big players over the last few years.

544
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Speaker 3: Maybe we don't hear of those big names in this

545
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Speaker 3: free agency, but all that matters is that you're getting

546
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Speaker 3: guys on this roster that can compete and hopefully make

547
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Speaker 3: those few plays that matter in those big time games

548
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Speaker 3: and in those playoff games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the question is on the table for you today.

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Speaker 2: What are you hoping to hear about the Bills at

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Speaker 2: next week's NFL combine? Eighth three five point fifty one

552
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Speaker 2: eight eight eight five fifty two, five fifty the number

553
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Speaker 2: to get on board. Got open lines for you or

554
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Speaker 2: hit us up on the tweetsheet at One Bill's Live.

555
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Speaker 2: We take a break here, but your phone calls next

556
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Speaker 2: here on one Bill's Live. Stay tuned, all right, Welcome

557
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Speaker 2: back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Matty Glad with

558
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Speaker 2: you here on a Thursday, and we are discussing NFL

559
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Speaker 2: combine week. What are you hoping to hear about the

560
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Speaker 2: Bills at next week's NFL combine? I know what I'm

561
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Speaker 2: looking forward to. Good news on Matt Mulonald recovery. I'd

562
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Speaker 2: be very happy if Brandon Bean or head coach Sean

563
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: McDermott tell us next week that Matt Mlana is going

564
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Speaker 2: to be full go and ready to role come the

565
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Speaker 2: off season conditioning program commencement in April. That would be

566
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Speaker 2: music to my ears. So that's something that I'm kind

567
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 2: of hoping to hear, knowing how much they missed him

568
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Speaker 2: in the lineup for the last three quarters of the

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Speaker 2: season and the playoffs. What about you, Manny, Is there

570
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Speaker 2: anything at the top of your list here.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at all of our free agents on this team,

572
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Speaker 3: and a bulk of those free agents are at the

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Speaker 3: defensive line position. In fact, there's only one, two, three.

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Speaker 2: Four, yeah, four d.

575
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Speaker 3: D linemen under contract, and only.

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Speaker 2: One of them is a defensive tackle, yeah at Oliver.

577
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Speaker 3: So what I am looking for is I would like

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Speaker 3: to know a little bit more information about what we

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Speaker 3: might do with some of these free agents, specifically talking

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Speaker 3: about the defensive tackle spot during the combine. I want

581
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Speaker 3: to hear that maybe we'll bring one of these guys back.

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Speaker 3: I would love Dai Kwon Jones to be on this

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Speaker 3: roster in twenty twenty four. I think he was a

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Speaker 3: big part of the defensive line last season and would

585
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Speaker 3: continue to be going forward if he's on this roster.

586
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Speaker 3: But I would like Brandon Beana stur painting the picture

587
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Speaker 3: a little bit there at the defensive line spot, because

588
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Speaker 3: if not man they might have to do quite a

589
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Speaker 3: bit of work in free agency at that position.

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Speaker 2: What are you hoping to hear about the Bills in

591
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Speaker 2: next week's NFL combine? You can let us know at

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Speaker 2: eight O three to ZHO five fifty one eighty eight

593
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Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty got some open lines for

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Speaker 2: you there, or you can hit us up on the

595
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Speaker 2: tweet chet to one Bills Live. But we go back

596
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Speaker 2: to the phones and to Darnell in Buffalo? What do

597
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Speaker 2: you got for us? Darnell?

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Speaker 1: Hey, how you doing good?

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Speaker 2: I have a question.

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Speaker 7: I was wondering, like, as far as the receivers that

601
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Speaker 7: may be available for the Bills sometime from them picks,

602
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Speaker 7: do you think any of them are better than.

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Speaker 8: Just In Shorter, the pick that we had last year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it's really tough to say because we

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Speaker 2: really haven't seen Shorter at the NFL level outside of

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Speaker 2: the preseason games. Last August. Uh he went on ir

607
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Speaker 2: with an end and never came off. I are, so

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Speaker 2: we didn't see him in a game all season, so

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Speaker 2: it's really kind of hard to know what they have

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Speaker 2: in him. I'm sure the coaching staff and the personnel

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Speaker 2: department have a better idea because at least they saw

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Speaker 2: him for a good portion of the practice settings when

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Speaker 2: he was still healthy. But even they didn't see a

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Speaker 2: full season of him even on the practice field because

615
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Speaker 2: he was on injured reserve. Now, if you just take

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Speaker 2: his draft stock, he was a fifth round draft choice

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Speaker 2: and he's got size and athletic ability, good hands, but

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Speaker 2: we haven't seen him in an NFL setting, and this

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Speaker 2: is considered a far deeper class of receivers this year

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Speaker 2: than the one last year that he was a part of.

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Speaker 2: So yes, I would say there are probably quite a

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Speaker 2: bit of receiving prospects in this year's class that at

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Speaker 2: least thirty two NFL teams consider better than Justin Shorter

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Speaker 2: because they're going to be taken sooner than he was

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Speaker 2: on the board in a better year for receiving talent,

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Speaker 2: So I would tend to lean towards Yes. That's not

627
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Speaker 2: to say that the Bills have given up on Justin Shorter.

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Speaker 2: I just think they want to have more deposits for

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Speaker 2: the wide receiver room before all is said and up.

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Speaker 3: And I think another thing to note about the wide

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Speaker 3: receiver position in this year's draft class is that the

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Speaker 3: bulk of the wide receivers this year are true ex position,

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Speaker 3: So you're looking at the bigger receivers, the tall receivers.

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Speaker 3: Justin Shorter is a taller receiver at six four two

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Speaker 3: twenty three, but the bulk of this year's draft class

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Speaker 3: is that true ex position, which in the draft class

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Speaker 3: before this year, last year they were a lot, they

638
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Speaker 3: were a lot smaller and a lot quicker, a lot

639
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Speaker 3: of slot guys. But this year you're seeing the big

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Speaker 3: guys coming out of college football, so you may have

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Speaker 3: more to choose from.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with that. The pool is definitely deeper,

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Speaker 2: it's more talented, So maybe think about it this way.

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Speaker 2: In a in an average receiver class last year, Shorter

645
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Speaker 2: was a fifth round pick. This year, and this is

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Speaker 2: no knock on Shorter, but this year, with as deep

647
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Speaker 2: as the class is, he might not have come off

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Speaker 2: the board until round seven because the class is that

649
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Speaker 2: much deeper and more talented, especially with players of similar

650
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Speaker 2: stature to him. So I think, all things being equal,

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Speaker 2: I would venture to guess that the majority of NFL

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Speaker 2: think that's being fair. But thanks for the call, Darnell,

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Speaker 2: appreciate it. Eighth three five point fifty won eighty eight

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Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty. We are going to take

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Speaker 2: a look at the tweet sheet in terms of what

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Speaker 2: you're hoping to hear about the Bills at next week's

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Speaker 2: Robert leads us off by saying, I'm hoping to hear

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Speaker 2: that they've re signed epinessa extended Rousseau, or even better both.

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Speaker 2: So they're talking about somebody whose contract is up and

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Speaker 2: somebody whose contract could be in line for an extension.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing. He just completed his third season, Rousseau did,

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Speaker 2: so the Bills do have a decision to make on

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Speaker 2: his fifth year option now that he's got three years

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Speaker 2: in the books and whether to pick that up. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: that would not kick in until the twenty twenty five season,

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Speaker 2: but now is when you have to make the call

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Speaker 2: on that before the first week in May. So that's

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Speaker 2: step one, and then Epines's market value is something that's

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Speaker 2: going to be very interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would guess that Brandon Bean would allow Aja

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Speaker 3: Apinessa to say, Hey, go see what you're worth on

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Speaker 3: the market. Go see what number you can get, come

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Speaker 3: back to us, and then maybe we'll try to work

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Speaker 3: something out. We hear him say, not just for Aja Epanessa,

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Speaker 3: but for a lot of these players that are free agents, like,

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Speaker 3: go test the market, see if you can get more

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Speaker 3: than what we would offer, and then you can decide.

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Speaker 3: Then you can decide, Hey, do you want to come

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Speaker 3: back to us a team that you know, a team

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Speaker 3: that you know how to play for, a defense that

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Speaker 3: you understand well, or would you rather go make money

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Speaker 3: elsewhere and go to a new team. I would love

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Speaker 3: to see aj Epanessa back here. I loved what he

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Speaker 3: did for this team last season. It's hard to think

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Speaker 3: about aj Appiness and Greg Russo not being together. Those

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Speaker 3: two are so so tight. We did a podcast episode

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Speaker 3: with them this year, and it was so fun to

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Speaker 3: kind of get to learn the inner workings of their

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Speaker 3: relationship and just really how close they are, how they

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Speaker 3: make each other better. They're very similar in body size,

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Speaker 3: and so when it comes to practices and watching a film,

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Speaker 3: they feed off of each other a lot. And I

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Speaker 3: think you saw that on the field this season with

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Speaker 3: how both of their games elevated.

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Speaker 2: It's very soft spoken too, yeah, their demeanor, yes, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: I would argue that Epinessa probably had his best season

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Speaker 2: in a Bill's uniform last season. Still a rotational player,

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Speaker 2: but more reductive than we had ever seen him before.

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Speaker 2: It's almost like he finally put it all together in

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Speaker 2: year four as a former second round draft pick. The

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Speaker 2: thing about it is, I wonder what is value is

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Speaker 2: going to look like on the open market. Obviously, the

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Speaker 2: things that are attractive productive pass rusher bats a lot

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Speaker 2: of passes down and was productive even though his snaps

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Speaker 2: were limited because of the rotation that they ran. And

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Speaker 2: he's twenty six, he's in the prime of his career.

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Speaker 2: So those are four things working in his favor. What's

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Speaker 2: not working in his favor might be something like and

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Speaker 2: I would expect good personnel evaluators to ask this question,

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Speaker 2: how come he could never get on the field as

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Speaker 2: a starter? What was the roadblocked there? You might have

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Speaker 2: some good answers, Leonard Floyd. You had a ten and

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Speaker 2: a half sax season superseded him as a starter, even

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Speaker 2: though von Miller wasn't von Miller at the start of

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Speaker 2: the year and wasn't even active. So there are there

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Speaker 2: are some questions concerning Epines's career to date, but there

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Speaker 2: are also some positives there. So, knowing the premium there

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Speaker 2: is on edge rushing talent in this league, I think

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Speaker 2: there will be some demand for him. How high the

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Speaker 2: number goes will determine whether or not the Bills stay

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Speaker 2: in the hunt or stay in the bidding for Epines's

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Speaker 2: services and epinessa. As we know players, when they get

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Speaker 2: to their second contract, that's when they want to hit

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Speaker 2: it big. They're in the prime of their career. They

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Speaker 2: are their most attractive as a commodity in this league

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Speaker 2: because they still have a lot of years in front

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Speaker 2: of them and they have a hopefully approven body of

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Speaker 2: work behind them, and so that's when they have their

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Speaker 2: one big swing to make big, life changing money. And

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Speaker 2: I would anticipate EPINESSA and a guy like Gabe Davis

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Speaker 2: to try to seek that out on the open market.

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Speaker 2: It wouldn't shock me if Brandon Bean goes to both

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Speaker 2: of those camps and says, look, this is our cap situation.

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Speaker 2: This is what we can offer you based on our

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Speaker 2: fiscal parameters. If you think you can do better, go

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Speaker 2: ahead and do that. Seek better numbers on the open market,

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Speaker 2: and if you can get it, good luck to you.

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Speaker 2: But we're just not in a position where we can

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Speaker 2: offer more than X.

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Speaker 3: And here are some names that are free agents defensive

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Speaker 3: Yannick and Gakway, Chase Young, Klayus Campbell. So there's some

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Speaker 3: names up there that are going to be at the

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Speaker 3: top of the list. And you wonder where aj Abanessa

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Speaker 3: fits into all of that. If it's going to be

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Speaker 3: a list that is very top heavy, then maybe the

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Speaker 3: value is best to come back and play for the Bills.

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Speaker 3: We don't know how that's going to look though, right.

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Speaker 2: And you know, as for Rousseau, I think they wait

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Speaker 2: on that. They don't really have to do anything right now,

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Speaker 2: and they have bigger fish to fry, namely their own

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Speaker 2: free agents. Whether it's the one Maddy mentioned earlier, Daikwon Jones,

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Speaker 2: who I would think is a priority for them to

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Speaker 2: get back in the fold if possible, or whether it's

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Speaker 2: one of these other players you know that maybe they

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Speaker 2: say that guy's a priority to get back on the roster,

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Speaker 2: whether it's a Epanessa somebody else. On defense where they

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Speaker 2: have more holes, I think those take precedence over a

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Speaker 2: guy who's under contract through next season. Obviously, they'll have

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Speaker 2: to make a fifty year option decision on Rousseau, but

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Speaker 2: as far as an extension, I just don't foresee it.

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Speaker 2: Got to take a break here. When we come back,

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Speaker 2: more of your thoughts on the tweet sheet, more of

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Speaker 2: your phone calls at ATO three to five to fifty.

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Speaker 2: What are you hoping to hear about the Bills at

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Speaker 2: next week's NFL combine Ato three oh five fifty. We're

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Speaker 2: back in a flash here on One of Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: presented by Colide Help. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right,

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Speaker 2: welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown Matti glab

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Speaker 2: the show on the road. Full coverage all week from

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Speaker 2: Indianapolis here from head coach Sean mcdermotgy and Brandon Bean

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Speaker 2: and other draft analysts as we prepare for the upcoming

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Speaker 2: NFL Draft, it's going to the NFL world is going

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Speaker 2: lot of great interviews already lined up by our ace producer,

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Speaker 2: Jay Harris, so we'll have some real quality content on

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Speaker 2: the show next week Monday through Friday. We usually don't

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Speaker 2: get out there till Tuesday. We'll be there all week

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Speaker 2: this coming week, starting on Monday show at one pm,

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Speaker 2: so'll be sure to tune in all week long. We

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Speaker 2: go back to the phones though at eight oh three

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Speaker 2: five point fifty one eighty and eighty five fifty two

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Speaker 2: foot fifty where we are asking you what are you

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Speaker 2: hoping to hear about the bills at next week's NFL Combine,

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Speaker 2: And waiting for us, there is Dennis in North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: What's up? Dennis?

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Speaker 1: Hey, how y'all doing today?

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Speaker 4: Good?

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Speaker 1: Hey? I mean really interesting to see well Buffalo can

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Speaker 1: do about free agency. Get Leonard Floyd back, and I

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Speaker 1: really think Buffalo should go after lock a really good linebacker,

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Speaker 1: a dB, somebody that gonna play aggressive, and somebody that

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Speaker 1: really sent out to me is a H. I think Buffalow.

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Speaker 7: Should draft uh the quarterback from Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: He's very strong armed.

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Speaker 7: Throw about ninety ninety five yards, very mobile.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you could help throw get the win.

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Speaker 2: You want a quarterback, Dennis, Did you say a quarterback?

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Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, everybody need a quarterback, right, I mean,

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Speaker 7: Yasha can't play.

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Speaker 2: Forever, right, but he's twenty eight. He's probably I mean,

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Speaker 2: barring a career endanger, he's playing for probably at least,

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Speaker 2: you know, eight more years. I don't know if you've

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Speaker 2: got to look just yet.

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Speaker 7: I mean, you know you always told me somebody Josh Heley,

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Speaker 7: Kin Greo or uh, somebody can play in the co

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Speaker 7: weather days. And a lot of quarterbacks we have now

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Speaker 7: they you know, how do I see somebody from Tennessee

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Speaker 7: up in Buffalo?

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Speaker 1: What I get to?

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so your bias is coming through, Dennis.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for the call. He's clearly a Balls fan and

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Speaker 2: he wants he wants Tennessee players in Bill's uniforms. We

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Speaker 2: used to have a few back in the day, uh,

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Speaker 2: going all the way back to Peerless Price and Jabbari

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Speaker 2: Greer among others, that you know it could happen. I

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Speaker 2: just don't think it's happened. In that quarterback position. They're

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Speaker 2: kind of set there. She's kind of set there with

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Speaker 2: one of the best in the league. And he's only

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Speaker 2: twenty eight. I mean, he's in his prime. You want

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Speaker 2: to talk about getting somebody in the backup ru who

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Speaker 2: is kind of capable of holding the fork down. If

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Speaker 2: God forbid, Josh missus a game or two, I'll listen

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Speaker 2: to that. But they're good, Trust me, they're good, as

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Speaker 2: Steve pointed out the other day, and he did the

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Speaker 2: research on this, so I'll give him full credit. Josh

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Speaker 2: had more total touchdowns and the same number of interceptions

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Speaker 2: as the league MVP and the Comeback Player of the

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Speaker 2: Year combined, two award winners, and he had better stats

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Speaker 2: than both of them. So take it for what it's worth, Dennis.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate the phone call, but I think they're good

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Speaker 2: at quarterback. I thought he was going to talk about

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Speaker 2: I thought he was saying corner or defensive tackle, and

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Speaker 2: then he said lineback or two. And look, they do

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Speaker 2: need some linebacker depth. I don't think there's any secret

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Speaker 2: about that. Because they lost Milano and lost Bernard and

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Speaker 2: they were twisting in the win there for the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: That was bad timing. But you know that Tyler Manakaevich

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Speaker 2: is a free agent, so you may have to replace

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Speaker 2: that guy on special teams. You have Tyrel Dotson as

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Speaker 2: a free agent. Is he gonna come back? We don't know.

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Speaker 2: Dorian Williams was certainly a nice find in the third

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Speaker 2: round last year, and I think he's got a lot

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Speaker 2: of promise and we'll probably be the first guy off

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Speaker 2: the bench next year barring a major draft pick or

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Speaker 2: free agent investment at the position behind Milano and Bernard.

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Speaker 2: But you know, come day three, you probably need to

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Speaker 2: get a linebacker for some depth on this roster to

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Speaker 2: play special teams, probably right out of the shoot. Baalon

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Speaker 2: Specter's also on the roster too. I didn't want to

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Speaker 2: forget him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Baylon will probably fill a role in special

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Speaker 3: teams because that's what he's done in the past. Wonder

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Speaker 3: if he moves up the packing order in terms of

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Speaker 3: depth on this roster when his name is called. We

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Speaker 3: when they needed to use a lot of that depth.

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00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 3: But yeah, I would want to look at a linebacker

867
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 3: on Day three of this draft for sure to help

868
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 3: out with some of that depth.

869
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and defensive tackles obvious, Matt, He's already kind of

870
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 2: covered it, both from a free agent perspective but in

871
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 2: the draft too, because just it's an expensive position to

872
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 2: invest in in free agency, and to think that the

873
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 2: Bills are in a cap position where they can sign

874
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: two notable names at that position might be a little

875
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 2: foolhardy one perhaps, and that's probably Daikwon Jones if they

876
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 2: had their choice. But after that, it's probably one year

877
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 2: veteran minimum deals to fill some of the holes, and

878
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 2: then probably a draft choice perhaps two to kind of

879
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 2: round out the unit at that position. Let's get back

880
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 2: to the phones, though, and to Pete and Amherst next

881
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 2: year before the break. What's up Pete?

882
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 9: Hi, guys? He had one quick comment, three quick questions.

883
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 9: So I agree with you, Chris. I really like Yed

884
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 9: and I Mitchell of Texas as a first round pick.

885
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,959
Speaker 9: I was wondering how many receivers you say the Bills

886
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 9: should have on the act of fifty three. I always

887
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 9: thought five was a little light. That was my first question. Secondly,

888
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 9: what do you folks think of kJ Osborne as a

889
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 9: mid level receiver to sign? He's pretty fast and he

890
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 9: can definitely jump. And their last question, what do you

891
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 9: think of a backup quarterback Eastern stick as a possibility?

892
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 9: That I think so, I'll hang up and listen.

893
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 2: Thank you, all right, Yeah, no problem, we can take

894
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: those in order. Yeah, I mean the Bills had five

895
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: previous years, they've had six, They've never had seven. I

896
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 2: think six is a good number in today's NFL. There

897
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 2: are a handful of teams that carry seven, but most

898
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 2: of the teams that do don't have two really good

899
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 2: tight ends like the Bills do. So I would anticipate

900
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 2: six being the number if you know they're in a

901
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 2: situation where they can afford to do that. If you

902
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 2: remember they've gone heavy at the defive line position the

903
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: last couple of years, and you got to rob from

904
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: Peter to pay Paul when you only have fifty three

905
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 2: spots to use, So you know, yes, I would tend

906
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 2: to agree five receivers is a little light, but with

907
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 2: the flexibility of the practice squad where you can now

908
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 2: carry sixteen players, it affords you the ability to elevate

909
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 2: players in a given week when you might need them.

910
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 2: And that's kind of why I think they felt okay

911
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 2: carrying just five receivers because they elevated Andy Isabella a

912
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 2: couple of times. We saw that. So that's something that

913
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 2: you know teams have in their back pocket as well.

914
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 2: You want to answer the next question he was.

915
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 3: Is that about wide receiver kJ Osbourne.

916
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, good player.

917
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's five eleven two oh three, decent player, had

918
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:52,479
Speaker 3: a good stats in Minnesota, started in every single game

919
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 3: and the last three seasons minus one looking out of

920
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 3: stats right now, was really productive in twenty twenty one

921
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 3: with seven touchdown so you like to see that. Had

922
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 3: around just over five hundred perceiving yards last year. So yeah,

923
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 3: if you're looking to build depth on this roster, wide

924
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 3: receiver is a spot where I look, kJ Osborne could

925
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 3: fit in one of those spots that's available. Trent Sherfield

926
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 3: is another free agent alongside of Gabe Davis, so you

927
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 3: have to fill that spot as well. Chris talked about earlier.

928
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 3: We're not sure about Deontay Hardy. He is under contract,

929
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 3: but that number maybe pretty high. Cap number pretty high.

930
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'll listen to kJ Osborne. I'm down for that.

931
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 3: There's quite a few wide receivers and some big names

932
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 3: that are available in free agency. Not saying that the

933
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 3: Bills are going to go after a big name, but

934
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 3: I think beyond that, there's some good depth to that

935
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 3: second tier guys available this year.

936
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 2: And he was a guy that was kind of buried

937
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 2: in the pecking order there in Minnesota because in front

938
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 2: of him you had Justin Jefferson, TJ. Howkinson the tight end,

939
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: and then their first round pick Jordan Aison. So a

940
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 2: lot of weeks Osborne was the fourth option. It was

941
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 2: hard to produce just because of where he sat in

942
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 2: the pecking order. And I think maybe somewhere else he

943
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 2: could have a chance to make a greater impact in

944
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 2: a passing game. And he's certainly an elite athlete, So

945
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 2: maybe he's a guy that the Bills look at and say,

946
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 2: you know what, this is a guy that we feel

947
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 2: comfortable putting in the number two role until whoever our

948
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 2: major draft investment is is ready to assume that and

949
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 2: take that role, and then you still have Osborne as

950
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 2: a depth piece. So I could see something like that

951
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,240
Speaker 2: taking place there. So that's kind of it in a nutshell.

952
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 2: We got to take a break because we're up against it.

953
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 2: But our number two is going to begin with Eric

954
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 2: at Hoolme, our guest for our number two from NFL

955
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 2: dot Com has had a lot of good recent content

956
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 2: lately on that site. We'll talk it over with him

957
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 2: next here on One Bill's Live presented by a Lot

958
00:51:51,800 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 2: of Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. This One Bill's Live

959
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 2: presented by Calllida Health. All Right, welcome into our number

960
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 2: two here on a Thursday, Chris Brown matting lab with you,

961
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,280
Speaker 2: and I'm happy to be joined now by lead NFL

962
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 2: writer for NFL dot Com. It is Eric at Holme

963
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 2: joining us here in our number two and as we

964
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 2: uh wait to head out to the combine in Indie, Eric,

965
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,240
Speaker 2: before we take a look at some of the news

966
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 2: coming out of this year's draft class, you and your

967
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 2: colleague Chad Ruder recently put together a ranking of last

968
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 2: year's draft classes with rookie grades. You had the Bills

969
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 2: in eighth, which I think it's a pretty good showing

970
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 2: for a team drafting as low as they have the

971
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 2: last several years. What did you what did you like

972
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 2: most about what the Bills and Brandon Being were able

973
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 2: to put together in last year's class.

974
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, obviously it's uh, you know, there were

975
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 10: there were a couple of tight ends who really stood

976
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 10: out in the rookie draft class, Sam Laporta and Detroit

977
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 10: and then also Dalton Kink with the Bills. So I

978
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,240
Speaker 10: felt like, you know, getting one of those two guys

979
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 10: was was pretty strong and you know, maybe you know,

980
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 10: his best football has yet to come too. We could

981
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 10: see him kind of put up the same sort of

982
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 10: full season production that laported it. I saw some flashes

983
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 10: that made me think he's capable of that, and and

984
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 10: just solid starters you know, obviously Osirus Torrence and you know,

985
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 10: contributors at linebacker Dorian Williams. Obviously the lower picks didn't

986
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 10: get as much time, but you know, like you said,

987
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 10: I did factor in. If you're the Detroit Lions, you

988
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 10: have a ton of picks like they did last year,

989
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 10: you've got to impress me more than a team like

990
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 10: the Bills would with fewer picks and picking lower, So

991
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 10: I thought they made the most especially of their higher picks,

992
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 10: and you know, really doing a nice job overall.

993
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 3: Well, we're hoping the Bills are going to be at

994
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 3: the top of that list after this year's draft because

995
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 3: of what they might have to do in the draft.

996
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 3: This is a team that might not have that much

997
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 3: wiggle room with their cap number with some big guys

998
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 3: on the roster and Josh Allen and Von Miller and

999
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 3: Stefan Diggs who will eat up a big part of

1000
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,919
Speaker 3: that number. So you look to the NFL Draft where

1001
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 3: you can get some really talented players for not a

1002
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 3: lot of money. Why do you think this draft for

1003
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 3: the Bills is so important to maybe helping them get

1004
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 3: over the hump but still have a really talented roster.

1005
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 10: Yeah, you made the most important point, which is that

1006
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 10: the money's tighter now, right, even if they do some

1007
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 10: adjustments in the weeks to come and you know, help

1008
00:54:58,040 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 10: kind of clean up.

1009
00:54:58,680 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 4: The books a little bit.

1010
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 10: You know, you still have Josh Allen's contract now taking

1011
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 10: up a bigger percentage of the cap. And you know,

1012
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,520
Speaker 10: we've seen this team come close year in year out.

1013
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 10: You know, obviously every pick that you make successfully can

1014
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 10: help you take that next proverbial step, right, So it's

1015
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,720
Speaker 10: obviously as much about the second and third year players

1016
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 10: developing as you hope and keeping those guys on track

1017
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 10: to be starters or contributors. But you know, these days,

1018
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 10: we've seen contenders have rookie contributors right away, even on

1019
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 10: talented rosters teams that made the playoffs the year before.

1020
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 10: So you know, this is a really interesting first round.

1021
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 10: And maybe some of the Bill's potential needs line up

1022
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 10: with some of the strengths in the draft. Not all

1023
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 10: of them necessarily, but a couple spots like wide receiver

1024
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 10: and maybe the pass rush group something like that.

1025
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 2: Right, And while there are more holes at least currently

1026
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,760
Speaker 2: on the defensive side of the ball, whether it's starting

1027
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 2: roles or depth for Buffalo's roster, than on offense, where

1028
00:55:56,280 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: really the only potential starting hole could be if Gabe

1029
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 2: Davis leaves via free agency, Bills fans are clamoring for

1030
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 2: more weapons in what they believe is a full blown

1031
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 2: arms race in the AFC. I know that Kansas City

1032
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 2: won the Super Bowl with arguably their least talented offensive group,

1033
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 2: and it was due in large part to the fact

1034
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 2: that they had the number two defense in football. But

1035
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 2: at the same time, that hamstrung Kansas City offense relatively speaking,

1036
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 2: still got by three top ten defenses en route to

1037
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl and then beat the number eight defense

1038
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 2: or the number three scoring defense. There are people that believe,

1039
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 2: the hell with defense. You want to be good on

1040
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 2: that side of the ball. You can't be bad, but

1041
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 2: you better be able to hang thirty and somehow beat

1042
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 2: a Chiefs defense that gives Mahomes multiple chances to win

1043
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 2: games for them. Yeah.

1044
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, Kansas City.

1045
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 10: I wouldn't say they necessarily broke the mold because we're

1046
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 10: still talking about one of the great young quarterbacks and football,

1047
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 10: and they've obviously done it in a different way in

1048
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 10: the past, with more emphasis on the offense and less

1049
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 10: on the defense perhaps, But you saw them undergo a

1050
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 10: defensive overhaul a couple of years ago, and I'll be

1051
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 10: curious to see if more teams.

1052
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:14,919
Speaker 4: Don't follow that again.

1053
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 10: You have to have something you can rely on at

1054
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 10: that quarterback position. I believe the Bills would qualify with

1055
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 10: Josh Allen, who was writing that same zip code, I

1056
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 10: think as Mahome with Mahomes.

1057
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 4: As far as young playmaking quarterbacks go, but you know.

1058
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 10: That's the question to pose, is do you put all

1059
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 10: your eggs on the offensive basket, saying, hey, we want

1060
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 10: to surround Josh with as much talent as possible, or

1061
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 10: do you kind of go against the wind a little

1062
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 10: bit and mirror some of what Kansas City's roster building

1063
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 10: was like basically starting two years ago, when they you know,

1064
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 10: had two first round picks and made a ton of

1065
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 10: picks on that side of the ball and just kind

1066
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 10: of carpet bombed it and ended up getting some day

1067
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 10: free help and ended up getting help on all three

1068
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 10: levels of the defense.

1069
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 4: So it's an interesting approach, right.

1070
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 10: We've heard for ten to fifteen years now, and you know,

1071
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 10: the offenses have kind of exploded around the league that

1072
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 10: you know that's really where the emphasis is.

1073
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 4: I don't know that that's the case. After we saw what.

1074
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 10: The Chiefs did this past season, and there have been

1075
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 10: other teams who've done somewhat similar things.

1076
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 3: Well, speaking of those options, the Bills lost to the

1077
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 3: Chiefs again in the playoffs. They lost by just three points,

1078
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 3: and we heard from a lot of players and coaches

1079
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 3: after the season, including Brandon Bean, that the Bills are

1080
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 3: just a few plays away from being that team that

1081
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 3: beats the Chiefs in the playoffs, from being that team

1082
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 3: that makes it to the AFC Championship and wins and

1083
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 3: gets a game in the Super Bowl. Where do you

1084
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 3: think the Bills go from here? What's left for them

1085
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 3: to fill on their roster? What do they need to

1086
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 3: do this offseason to make sure that they're not a

1087
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 3: few plays away next year?

1088
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1089
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 10: I mean, obviously, I think if there's a position in

1090
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 10: the draft where you theoretically, especially you know, considering the

1091
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 10: range of which they're picking, you know, they can move

1092
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 10: up a little and move down a little, what have you.

1093
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 10: But that sort of area in the draft especially, and

1094
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 10: I know I'm starting in reverse. We have agency, we

1095
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 10: have the potential for trades, but as you guys mentioned,

1096
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 10: they might be a little bit you know, cap stricken

1097
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 10: in some regards. So wide receiver and pass rusher are

1098
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 10: probably two areas where at that point of the draft

1099
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 10: you might be able to get a talent that's worth

1100
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 10: what the twentieth pick would normally be worth in an

1101
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 10: average draft. Let's say, so you know, whether that's a

1102
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 10: player like Keon Coleman from from Florida State, maybe a

1103
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 10: Brian Thomas from LSU slips. You know, there's a guy

1104
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 10: at Georgia, a Lad McConkey, who you know, I think

1105
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 10: now that we've seen him healthy, he was down at

1106
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 10: the Seio Bowl last week.

1107
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 4: Maybe he buys for a late first round pick.

1108
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 10: Or Ady Mitchell at Texas had a nice semi final

1109
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 10: game against Washington and I think helped boosted his stock.

1110
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 10: He's gonna run well, I believe in Indy. So that's

1111
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 10: a position that that theoretically you could get instant contributions from,

1112
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 10: even with a later first round pick.

1113
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 4: Go to the defensive side of the ball.

1114
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 10: I know it's not considered a strong defensive class overall,

1115
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 10: especially when we may not have a top ten pick

1116
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 10: on defense, which is very unusual. You still could have

1117
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 10: Chop Robinson, a pass rusher from Penn State, Darius Robinson

1118
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 10: from Missouri who's a bigger framed guy who could play

1119
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 10: inside and now, but is a defensive end.

1120
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 4: You know, Latu Lasu, Jared Vers.

1121
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 10: There are some other guys who may not go quite

1122
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 10: as high as you think or you've seen in mock

1123
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 10: drafts and could be on the board for him. So

1124
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 10: you know, I'm not saying that at the corner themselves

1125
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 10: into one of those two positions. I'm just saying, if

1126
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 10: you're looking for the most year, one bang for your buck,

1127
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 10: and you feel like the clock is ticking, those are

1128
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 10: two spots they might be able to help themselves.

1129
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 2: Well. Yeah, and I think that's I think that's paramount

1130
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 2: this year for the Bills, Eric, because to your point,

1131
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 2: the cap constraints are more challenging. And I know that

1132
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott, as a matter of philosophy, is hesitant to

1133
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 2: hand rookies starting jobs out of the shoot. He did

1134
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 2: it last year with kincaid and Osiris Torrance as we know.

1135
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 2: But knowing that you're not gonna be able to swing

1136
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 2: big in free agency and you're gonna have to take

1137
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 2: a budgetary approach there. Brandon Being said it at his

1138
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 2: season wrap up press conference. We got to hit on

1139
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 2: this draft big time because you're gonna probably need your

1140
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 2: top two picks to do the same thing that Kincaiden

1141
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 2: Torrens did in terms of role on this football team

1142
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 2: wherever it is they line up.

1143
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 10: Yeah, and it's good to have, you know, a draft

1144
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 10: class where you've already done that, right, And I think

1145
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 10: their targeted approach has been very smart over the years,

1146
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 10: and they've been able to find you know, year one

1147
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 10: contributors in round one. Now you don't have a few exceptions,

1148
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 10: right We're still waiting to see what Kyrie Elam can be.

1149
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 10: But he had you know, a few big plays in

1150
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 10: the playoffs when he was pressed into duty. But you know,

1151
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,919
Speaker 10: it just sort of look over what Brandon's a career

1152
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 10: in Buffalo has been. They've they've had some you know,

1153
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 10: stand up doubles for those kinds of picks, and that's

1154
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 10: a good thing.

1155
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 4: I mean, if it's nice to have.

1156
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 10: A high floor as well as a high ceiling as

1157
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 10: a prospect, and despite you know, often picking down on

1158
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 10: the bottom half of the the first round. So yeah,

1159
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 10: I mean, you never want to put yourself in that

1160
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 10: position where you say, we've got to come out of

1161
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 10: this draft with two starters or else, because that may

1162
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 10: restrict you from players who have a higher ceiling later.

1163
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 4: But I think they have an eye for.

1164
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 10: Guys who potentially could contribute right away, and that may

1165
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 10: give them a little bit of an advantage picking an

1166
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 10: area where it's already been picked through a little bit.

1167
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 10: There are fewer prospects at that point.

1168
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about some of those prospects. In your

1169
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 3: latest mock draft, you have the Bills selecting Troy Franklin

1170
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 3: with the number twenty eighth overall pick, and if you

1171
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,520
Speaker 3: look at his stats, this is a guy who is productive.

1172
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 3: During his three seasons at Oregon had over thirteen hundred

1173
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 3: receiving yards in twenty twenty three and fourteen touchdowns. Why

1174
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 3: do you think he could be a good fit for

1175
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 3: the Bills.

1176
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean.

1177
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 10: He's really a three level weapon. I mean you can

1178
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 10: use him as a deep threat. You could send him

1179
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 10: over the middle. I mean, I think he's going to

1180
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 10: measure in somewhere in the six to two range. I

1181
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 10: don't think he's I don't know what he was listed at,

1182
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 10: maybe a little higher than that, but I mean still

1183
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 10: with good, good length. You know, we don't know whether

1184
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 10: Gabe's going to be part of this team. He needs

1185
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 10: somebody to kind of replicate what he does in that respect.

1186
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 10: But I think what what makes Franklin exciting too is

1187
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 10: that he's a good yak yards after catch guy on

1188
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 10: some of the short stuff too. So I mean he's

1189
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 10: a weapon. I mean I'd like to see him finish

1190
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 10: catches a little bit more consistently. You see some you know,

1191
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 10: the occasional concentration drop or you know, losing body position.

1192
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 10: But I think some of that stuff can be taught, right,

1193
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 10: I mean, you want to see the natural ability and

1194
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 10: the high end ability on display, and his tape does that.

1195
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 10: I mean, I think that's the most exciting thing about it,

1196
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 10: and this year especially. I mean, I know we feel like,

1197
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 10: you know, maybe not last year, but for most of

1198
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,919
Speaker 10: the last decade, we've talked about the riches at.

1199
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 4: Wide receiver in the in in recent draft classes. This

1200
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 4: year is no different. This is a very very good

1201
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 4: draft at wide receiver.

1202
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 10: So you know, again, Franklin might normally go, you know,

1203
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 10: in that in that sort of eighteen to twenty eight

1204
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 10: range in a normal.

1205
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 4: Draft, but he could be pushed back a little bit.

1206
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 10: So yeah, I think there's a chance that one of

1207
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 10: those types of receivers is going to be on the

1208
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 10: board when they pick, and it could be an instant contributor.

1209
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it's interesting because as deep as the

1210
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 2: class is, I think what helps the Bills is it's

1211
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 2: rich And Maddy mentioned this earlier in the show. It's

1212
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 2: rich in X receivers, which wasn't the case last year.

1213
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 2: He had a lot of slot guys last year, and

1214
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 2: the Bills need an X, Like let's just assume Davis

1215
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 2: is not here. They need a guy that can line

1216
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 2: up outside with some size because Davis was the only

1217
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 2: guy over six foot on the roster at receiver. I

1218
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 2: think Sherfield might be six ' one in cleats, but

1219
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 2: he's a free agent two anyway. So for the type

1220
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 2: of receiver that we anticipate the Bills will be after,

1221
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 2: you know, knowing Shakir has kind of solidified the slot

1222
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 2: role for this team, I mean, Franklin makes a lot

1223
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 2: of sense because the other thing that I think they

1224
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 2: need out there, also Eric is a field stretcher. We

1225
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 2: see all this cover too high coverage that they face

1226
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 2: every single week, and while James Cook did help in

1227
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 2: some regard to pull safeties down into the box on occasion,

1228
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,680
Speaker 2: they need somebody to stretch the field vertically because Davis

1229
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 2: was a downfield guy, but he is not a burner

1230
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 2: that strikes fear in corners and he's not a separator.

1231
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 2: So with that in mind, I think Franklin would be

1232
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 2: would be a very good fit for this team for

1233
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 2: kind of what they need. They got to stretch the

1234
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 2: field vertically again.

1235
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 10: Yeah, and I mean we get caught up in the

1236
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 10: wide receiver and corner forty yard dashes sometimes maybe not corner,

1237
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 10: but certainly wide receiver. But this year it's going to

1238
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,640
Speaker 10: be fascinating to see what those times are in Indianapolis because,

1239
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 10: like you said, I think we do have a little

1240
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 10: bit bigger pool of that type of receiver. You know,

1241
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 10: Malik Neighbors is going to be a high pick. His

1242
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 10: teammate Brian Thomas, you know, probably won't be there on

1243
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 10: the board when Buffalo's picking, But Xavier Worthy from Texas

1244
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 10: I think could could move up. Maybe he's it is

1245
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 10: that early second round pick right now. You know, Mitchell

1246
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 10: maybe a little bit more the the X receiver. And

1247
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 10: that's a great point that you bring up, Maddie. But yeah,

1248
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 10: I mean McConkey has some second level ability and maybe

1249
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 10: a little bit of deep ability, but maybe he's a

1250
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 10: little bit more like Shakir style wise, not quite the same,

1251
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 10: but more like that. So I think Franklin Worthy Thomas,

1252
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 10: if you were to get in a range, you know,

1253
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 10: it would certainly qualify as having enough length where you

1254
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 10: can get those fifty to fifty balls, but also enough

1255
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,920
Speaker 10: speed to take the top off a defense and have

1256
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 10: them reconsider playing too deep all the time against Buffalo.

1257
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 3: Staying with the wide receivers and what you had in

1258
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 3: your latest mock draft, you have Romo Dunze going at

1259
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 3: number nine, and then your next wide receiver isn't until

1260
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 3: number twenty two, which is Brian Thomas heading to the Eagles.

1261
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:52,440
Speaker 3: Why is there going to be and we've seen this

1262
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 3: with other mock drafts too, Why is there a big

1263
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 3: gap maybe from six to nine depending on when that

1264
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 3: last wide receiver goes Romo Dunze or Malik Neighbors. And

1265
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 3: then why is there a gap until the twenties that

1266
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 3: we're seeing names like Brian Thomas and Troy Franklin pop

1267
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 3: up there? Is it just because the offensive tackles and

1268
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 3: the quarterbacks are going to start to go around?

1269
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 2: Then?

1270
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 3: Is that because that's where there's some good depth there

1271
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 3: that teams might want to get some of those guys

1272
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 3: before you dip back into the wide receivers.

1273
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's hard this time of year, right, we haven't

1274
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 10: had free agency yet, so a lot of you know,

1275
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 10: my early mock draft, I mean, this is like, let's

1276
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 10: let's try to make it look like what the landscape

1277
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 10: could look like, but from really far away, right, don't squint,

1278
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 10: don't look too hard, because you know, a guy that

1279
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 10: I have twenty fifth could end up going tenth, or

1280
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,400
Speaker 10: a guy that I have in the top ten may

1281
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 10: slip to the.

1282
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 4: End around one or further.

1283
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 10: I look back at my January MAKA year ago, and

1284
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 10: you know, there were three or four picks that were

1285
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 10: hilariously out of place. So you know, I'm still gathering

1286
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 10: that information. A lot of it will come next week.

1287
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 10: Is a you know, I try to meet with as

1288
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:58,960
Speaker 10: many people as possible, but I don't think there's any

1289
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 10: specific reason for it. Maybe Brian Thomas needs that strong

1290
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 10: week of testing to push himself into that top fifteen range.

1291
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 10: You know, maybe Worthy has a chance to move up Franklin,

1292
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 10: et cetera. So you know, the perceived gap that shows

1293
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Speaker 10: up in a January mock draft may not be necessarily

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Speaker 10: reflective of what the real talent is. So I know

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Speaker 10: that's a way of deflecting a little bit. But I

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Speaker 10: don't necessarily think there's a massive gap. It just so

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Speaker 10: happens that Harrison neighbors Odoonza. These are rare specimens and

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Speaker 10: they're probably going to be top ten picks, and that's

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Speaker 10: what makes it a little bit more on the top

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Speaker 10: heavy side.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think Bills fans are going to be

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Speaker 2: disappointed if five or six offensive tackles go to push

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Speaker 2: the other, which we push the receiver talent down maybe

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Speaker 2: half a dozen corners. You know, they'll take anything at

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Speaker 2: this point, Eric, what can we expect from you on

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Speaker 2: NFL dot com next week during combine coverage?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, speaking of forty yard dashes, I was actually it

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Speaker 10: must have been on my brain. I'm working on a

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Speaker 10: story on who might be the forty yard day King

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Speaker 10: and Indy usually a running back, wide receiver, corner, maybe

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Speaker 10: a safety this year. So that's one thing I got

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Speaker 10: coming up, and I'm looking forward to hear from the

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Speaker 10: coaches and GMS on Tuesday and Wednesday as well.

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Speaker 2: All right, sounds good, Eric, We'll see out there in INDI.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for giving us some time here just before the

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Speaker 2: big week out there. Thanks very much.

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Speaker 4: Thank you guys, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's Eric at home, NFL Media lead draft

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Speaker 2: analyst joining us, and as you said, he's going to

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Speaker 2: have the four to one one on some of the

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Speaker 2: burners that'll be running at the draft. We should mention

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Speaker 2: some news did come down earlier today about one of

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Speaker 2: the draft prospects forecast as a late first round pick,

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Speaker 2: Cooper Dejean, the cornerback who's actually been mocked a couple

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Speaker 2: of times to the Bills too. Right out of Iowa.

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Speaker 2: He is apparently not going to test. He's certainly not

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Speaker 2: gonna run. I don't know what other tests he's gonna skip,

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Speaker 2: but he's gonna miss or skip most of the workout,

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Speaker 2: if not all of it, at the Combine next week.

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Speaker 2: Apparently a leg injury late in the season has thrown

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Speaker 2: off his state of readiness to test at the Combine.

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Speaker 2: So he is going to test in April, closer to

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Speaker 2: the draft. I don't even I think it's going to

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Speaker 2: be even after the Iowa Pro Day, because he's looking

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Speaker 2: at mid April saying, so you got to wonder what

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Speaker 2: that injury was. No doubt he's going to be getting

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Speaker 2: pulled and prodded by all the doctors in Indianapolis next

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Speaker 2: week for sure. So that's kind of the latest there.

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Speaker 2: We are asking you at eighth three, five point fifty

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Speaker 2: one eight, five fifty two, five fifty What are you

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Speaker 2: hoping to hear about the bills at next week's NFL combine.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones. We go to Mark

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Speaker 2: in British Columbia, who's been waiting patiently? What do you

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Speaker 2: got for us? Mark?

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Speaker 8: Hey, fellow tis sorry not fellas, but how are you

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Speaker 8: guys doing today?

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Speaker 2: We're doing good?

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Speaker 4: Good?

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Speaker 8: Hey, I got a question to keep here in Steve

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Speaker 8: talk about moving up potentially to get around that eighteen spot.

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Speaker 8: It would cast us our first and our second. I'm

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Speaker 8: wondering what, let's say if Brian Thomas is there at

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Speaker 8: around twenty two to twenty three, would our first and

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Speaker 8: our potential compensatory be enough to make that happen?

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Speaker 2: And I think it's the two. I think. I think

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Speaker 2: you got to give up the two to get there.

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Speaker 2: If you give up the two and the three, you

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Speaker 2: can get as high as seventeen or eighteen. But you

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Speaker 2: got to give up the two to get to twenty three,

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Speaker 2: at least if I remember that correctly from what Steve

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Speaker 2: was calculating yesterday. So it's a pretty penny, But if

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Speaker 2: you're convinced that is the difference maker for your offense,

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Speaker 2: and you know you can part with the second round

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Speaker 2: pick no, and you got others you know later in

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Speaker 2: the draft, then go ahead and do it. That's called

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Speaker 2: courage of your conviction. And we've seen Brandon Bean do

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Speaker 2: it before. He's traded up more than anything else in

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Speaker 2: the first round and his time here his Bills GM,

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Speaker 2: So I wouldn't put it past him. We know if

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Speaker 2: there is a player he covets, he will go get him,

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Speaker 2: even if he's only got to move up one spot,

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Speaker 2: like he did last year when he was convinced the

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Speaker 2: Cowboys were going to leap frog him to try to

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Speaker 2: get Dalton Kincaid, so he wasn't taking any chances. He

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Speaker 2: moved up one spot in a trade with Jacksonville to

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Speaker 2: make sure that he got him. You gotta do what

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Speaker 2: you gotta do, yep.

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Speaker 3: Hearing how how much depth there is in this wide

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Speaker 3: receiver draft class. Hearing how deep it is and how

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Speaker 3: many great wide receivers you can also get on Day two,

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Speaker 3: trading up all the way to twenty to go get

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Speaker 3: Brian Thomas, a great player, great player, But think maybe.

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Speaker 2: The FBS and touchdown seventeen.

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Speaker 3: Thinking about what the Bills might need to do with

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Speaker 3: this draft and how we might need to get a

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Speaker 3: few starters out of this draft with our cap number.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I could be convinced. I could be

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Speaker 3: convinced further wide the right wide receiver, though.

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Speaker 2: I think I think much to Eric's point, it was

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Speaker 2: just one with us. We got to wait and see

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Speaker 2: how free agency plays out, which will paint part of

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Speaker 2: the picture for us a little bit clearer, and maybe

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Speaker 2: we know better from a numbers standpoint. Hey, how many

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Speaker 2: instant impact guys do the Bills really need to pull

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Speaker 2: out of this draft class? Because you may have answers

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Speaker 2: at safety already from free agent pickups. You may have

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Speaker 2: three of the four holes a defensive tackle plugged pretty capably,

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Speaker 2: So it could really change the dynamics and the conversation

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Speaker 2: about how many instant impact players they need to pull

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Speaker 2: out of this draft class. Let's go back to the

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Speaker 2: phones and to Carl on a sale. What do you

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01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 2: got for us?

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Speaker 5: Carl, Yeah, I'm just asking questions. I think that the

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Speaker 5: offense played pretty well, pretty decently. Actually, I think the

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Speaker 5: defense was the one that's lacking, and I would worry

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Speaker 5: more about getting my defense taken care of rather than

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Speaker 5: jump right in for a wide receiver. That's just my opinion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, And you're entitled to it, Carl. And there's

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Speaker 2: going to be one one arnold pot you know.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Jack Nicholas says you for your drive for

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Speaker 5: a show, you plugged for a dough. You know, it's

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Speaker 5: nice to see you long ball, but you know, if

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01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 5: you haven't got anybody to stop the other side from

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Speaker 5: throwing the long ball, you're in trouble.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I respect where you're coming from, Carl. And look,

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Speaker 2: if the receiver class at the value is not good

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Speaker 2: at twenty eight, Brandon Bean's not taking a receiver. He's

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Speaker 2: not going to reach for a position. So if the

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Speaker 2: receiver well is dried up by the time they were

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Speaker 2: on the board at twenty eight or wherever they wind up,

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Speaker 2: he will pivot. That's what he did last year. You know,

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Speaker 2: there was a run on receivers starting at twenty. They

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Speaker 2: were picking it like twenty seven if I remember right,

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Speaker 2: twenty six somewhere in there, and they went twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 2: twenty two, and they all came off the board. You know, Addison,

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Speaker 2: Zay Flowers, those guys all came off right in front

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Speaker 2: of Buffalo. So what did Brandon Bean do. He pivoted,

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01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,160
Speaker 2: and he took the best pass catching tight end in

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Speaker 2: the draft, and he had a record breaking season in

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Speaker 2: Bill's history for catches by a tight end in a

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Speaker 2: single season. So I think he would do the same

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Speaker 2: thing again if a similar situation cropped up, and he

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Speaker 2: would pivot. And I would believe he would pivot, probably

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Speaker 2: towards the defensive line, whether it's a pass rusher or

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Speaker 2: a defensive tackle. And I know that might not be

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Speaker 2: music to the years of a lot of Bills fans

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01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 2: that are tired of seeing the Bills invest high draft

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Speaker 2: choices in defensive players. But if the value takes you there,

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Speaker 2: you go there quick.

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Speaker 3: Before we go to break. There is an athletic the

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Speaker 3: Athletic mock Draft. The latest one just dropped from their

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01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 3: Beat reporters, and Joe Biscalia has us trading up to

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Speaker 3: number twenty twenty one, trading up to number twenty one

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Speaker 3: with Miami. We send number twenty eight, number ninety nine,

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Speaker 3: and number one ninety two to the Dolphins for the

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Speaker 3: twenty first overall pick to draft Brian Thomas Junior.

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Speaker 2: I can't see Miami doing that with US a division rival. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna help you.

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Speaker 3: I want to dance with Miami.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if Miami does that. That does not

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01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:01,920
Speaker 2: happen often. I will say that in intra division draft

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Speaker 2: trades do not happen often. The part of the reason

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01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 2: why is number one, you're conceivably helping that team get

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01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 2: the player they cover it. And number two, if it

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Speaker 2: works out for that team, you will never hear the

1456
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,639
Speaker 2: end of it because you'll be reminded of it twice

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Speaker 2: a year.

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Speaker 3: We should have never sent those picks over to Miami,

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Speaker 3: or Miami saying we should have never set that pick

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Speaker 3: to the Bills.

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Speaker 2: Now. I know there are examples in past history. You

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Speaker 2: know that the Bills traded for Drew Bledsoe. Patriots knew

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01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 2: what they had in Tom Brady, so they didn't mind

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01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 2: throwing Drew Bledsoe overboard, and it didn't really work out

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01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 2: terribly well. It certainly didn't get the Bills to the playoffs.

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01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 2: You know, Wes Welker used to be a Dolphin and

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Speaker 2: then went up to New England and tore it up there.

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Speaker 2: So there are examples. But on draft day, intra division

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Speaker 2: trades not as common as you might think. I I

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Speaker 2: love Joe and his work, but I'd be surprised if

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Speaker 2: that happens. I really would. I love the pick though.

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Speaker 2: If it happens and they get that guy, I'm over

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Speaker 2: the moon. I'm over the moon. Gotta take a break

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Speaker 2: here when we come back, more of your thoughts on

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Speaker 2: the tweet sheet, and if we have time, a little

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Speaker 2: time for some NFL true false. You're on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: presented by a lot of health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 5: All right, welcome back to One Bill's five.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Mandy Glad with you, and I want to

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Speaker 2: get back to some of the thoughts on the tweet

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Speaker 2: sheet where we were asking you, what are you hoping

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Speaker 2: to hear about the Bills at next week's NFL Combine.

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01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 2: From Bills for the Money, they say that they see

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Speaker 2: a fit at wide receiver with multiple prospects at the combine,

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Speaker 2: and as we've been talking for most of this show,

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Speaker 2: there's a good chance that happens just because of the

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Speaker 2: depth of the class. Jarvy says, I would like to

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Speaker 2: hear that Bean McDermott, Babbage and Brady are doing their

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Speaker 2: due diligence in person on defensive backs, defensive linemen, and

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Speaker 2: wide receiver prospects. Yeah, I mean, it's really the scouting

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Speaker 2: department that's done a lot of that legwork in terms

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Speaker 2: of putting reports together on just about everybody that's draft eligible,

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Speaker 2: and it's only now that the coaching staff is starting

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Speaker 2: to catch up on those prospects. And more often than not,

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01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,759
Speaker 2: the personnel department will give them a list of players

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Speaker 2: at their position. Now, for coordinators, they would get a

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Speaker 2: different group of players at different positions obviously because they're

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Speaker 2: overseeing the whole side of the football, and they'll be

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Speaker 2: asked to do some film review of those players to

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Speaker 2: get their opinion. And obviously a lot of those coaches,

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Speaker 2: the ones that we're mentioned here by Garvey, will absolutely

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01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 2: be in the interview room at the Combine this week

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01:18:57,160 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 2: when the Bills get their sixty player in individual one

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Speaker 2: on one.

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Speaker 3: Interviews, and it's nice to have those guys around. I mean,

1506
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 3: it's nice to have as many people in the room

1507
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 3: as you can during those interviews because a lot of

1508
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 3: people may have different opinions, may pick up on something

1509
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:18,879
Speaker 3: different that a prospect says that they end up really liking,

1510
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 3: or maybe they don't like somebody because of how an

1511
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 3: interview went. But it's nice to have several different coaches

1512
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 3: and scouts in the room together because when you have

1513
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 3: more people, I think you're going to end up making

1514
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 3: a better decision at the end of the day.

1515
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 2: Just from what we've seen based on our embedded pieces

1516
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:40,640
Speaker 2: and beyond blue and red pieces when we cover the

1517
01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 2: draft our video team, we've seen in most cases in

1518
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 2: the interview setting, it's the position coach interviewing the prospect

1519
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 2: who plays that position, and that allows everybody else to

1520
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 2: just kind of sit back and listen to the answers,

1521
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:59,680
Speaker 2: observe the prospect's demeanor, what's his personality like. You're not

1522
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:03,280
Speaker 2: folks on questions. You're focused on the player, his answers

1523
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 2: and what he likes. And then if someone like coach

1524
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 2: McDermott wants to chime in and follow up, they'll chime in.

1525
01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 2: But it's usually the position coach that leads the interview.

1526
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,680
Speaker 2: We saw that last year when Rob Boris, Buffalo's tight

1527
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 2: ends coach, kind of led the in person interview with

1528
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 2: Dalton Kincaid, who Presto Chango winds up being the Bills'

1529
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 2: first round pick. Patrick on the tweet sheet says they

1530
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 2: have sat. I want to hear that they've sat with

1531
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 2: numerous wide receivers of interest, also some mention of them

1532
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 2: attached to some possible free agent signings. We'll see what

1533
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:37,760
Speaker 2: we can do, Patrick, and getting those answers for you,

1534
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 2: maybe maybe not, we'll see. It's tough time of year

1535
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 2: because you know you want to answer questions, but you

1536
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:46,679
Speaker 2: also don't want to give away the farm in terms

1537
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:49,559
Speaker 2: of what your off season plans are because somebody else

1538
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 2: could corrupt them if they have an idea on which

1539
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 2: way you're leaning.

1540
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and during the combine, I mean you're at least

1541
01:20:56,120 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 3: what we hear is you may hear a little bit

1542
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 3: from Brandon Bean. You may hear some rumors that come

1543
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:05,639
Speaker 3: out of the Combine, usually not just with the Bills,

1544
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 3: but usually you hear a couple things related to a

1545
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:11,360
Speaker 3: few teams in terms of what they're gonna do during

1546
01:21:11,439 --> 01:21:14,640
Speaker 3: free agency. You have this dead period right now and

1547
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:17,680
Speaker 3: the combine. We're focused on the guys coming out of

1548
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 3: college football. But man, when we return home from the

1549
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 3: Combine and free agency comes so.

1550
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 2: Quick, we're already into March by the time we get back.

1551
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 3: So thirteenth is the day Yeah.

1552
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 2: With the negotiating period starting on the eleventh, So yeah,

1553
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,880
Speaker 2: I mean get back from the combine. It's March second,

1554
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 2: next Saturday. We're almost there, negotiating periods nine days away,

1555
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:46,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, it comes up fast. Once you get to

1556
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 2: the combine, it's almost like the wheels start turning again

1557
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 2: and you're already at the top of the hill coming

1558
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:54,719
Speaker 2: down towards the next season. George on the tweets sheet says,

1559
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:58,680
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to hearing nothing. A quiet combine is

1560
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:00,679
Speaker 2: a good combine. I really don't want to hear anything

1561
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:04,440
Speaker 2: about the people they are targeting until after the draft. Yeah. See, George,

1562
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 2: he's all about loose lips, sink ships. You don't want

1563
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 2: to hear anything, keep it under, keep it close to

1564
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 2: the vest, don't say anything about anybody. We don't want

1565
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 2: to tip any of the other thirty one teams off.

1566
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:19,559
Speaker 2: George is George wants full incognito mode, which you know,

1567
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 2: I get it. Why tip anybody else off? As to

1568
01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 2: your plans, right.

1569
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:26,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, makes sense. Although I do hope we hear some

1570
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 3: things so that it's easier for us to talk about

1571
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 3: things during the week.

1572
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 2: That's true. Otherwise we got some long shows ahead of

1573
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:36,679
Speaker 2: us out there in Indianapolis this week. Robert. On the tweet,

1574
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 2: she says, I'm hoping to hear Marvin Harrison Junior gets

1575
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:43,600
Speaker 2: caught with something, nothing too serious, just enough for his

1576
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:48,600
Speaker 2: stock to fall and ultimately falls to the Bills. You

1577
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 2: can wish, you can dream, Robert, I'm not saying you can't.

1578
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 2: That would be well, it wouldn't be the first time.

1579
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 2: I guess right, we've seen guys draft stock fall for

1580
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:03,600
Speaker 2: all off the field issues. I don't know that we

1581
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 2: have any reason to think that that would happen to

1582
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison. But stranger things have happened. There have been

1583
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 2: examples of players whose draft stock has fallen as late

1584
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:17,879
Speaker 2: as draft day. Laramie Tunsel comes to mind. Oh yeah,

1585
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 2: Warren Sap fell down the board because somebody put out

1586
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 2: a rumor there about his usage of marijuana, and he

1587
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 2: dropped down the board enough for Tampa to take him.

1588
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 2: So it has happened more so closer to the draft

1589
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:35,559
Speaker 2: than at the NFL Combine. But the ones we hear

1590
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 2: at the combine the most matty now that I'm thinking

1591
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 2: about this, are is what is discovered in the medical exam.

1592
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 2: Like we'll hear things like this person has a chronic

1593
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 2: knee condition, this person has disk deterioration in his lower back,

1594
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 2: and if that's alignment, that's a problem. It's usually the

1595
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 2: medical that uncovers things that we didn't know going in obviously,

1596
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:02,680
Speaker 2: And sometimes the person most surprised is the player themselves.

1597
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:05,599
Speaker 2: What what do you mean, I got a bad shoulder.

1598
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:07,759
Speaker 2: I've been playing with this shoulder for my whole life.

1599
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 2: You know, it's unbelievable what those doctors find sometimes.

1600
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:16,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they go into their first couple days,

1601
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 3: are in those offices, are doing those exams, is looking

1602
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 3: at okay X rays this, That medical history and the

1603
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:30,680
Speaker 3: research that they do and the exams that they do

1604
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 3: and the things that they compile are so in depth

1605
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:38,680
Speaker 3: about some of these players. And like you said, sometimes

1606
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 3: things pop up that people didn't know about.

1607
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:45,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, even the player himself. Steph on the tweets sheet says,

1608
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:47,760
Speaker 2: the cap went up more than expected and we can

1609
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 2: keep game. Davis or Vaughan has agreed to restructure his

1610
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 2: contract to free up more space to keep good talent

1611
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:57,760
Speaker 2: on his side of the ball. I think Steph is

1612
01:24:57,800 --> 01:24:59,679
Speaker 2: on the right track here, because I think we're more

1613
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 2: likely to hear stuff about Buffalo's roster and some offseason

1614
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 2: plans they are in, rather than the draft prospects who

1615
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 2: were all watching test. That's kind of been the history

1616
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 2: that we've experienced.

1617
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 3: I would say, yeah, I do hope that we hear

1618
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 3: that several players, whether it's at the combine or following

1619
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 3: the combine, about guys being willing to restructure, because I

1620
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 3: think that's going to have to be a big part

1621
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 3: of this for Brandon being to get where he needs

1622
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 3: to be with that cap number, You're going to have

1623
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:36,559
Speaker 3: to have guys who are willing to move some money around,

1624
01:25:36,600 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 3: willing to take less this next season so that the

1625
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 3: Bills can be in a good place leading into the

1626
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 3: draft with the fifteen million that they have set aside

1627
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:49,719
Speaker 3: or whatever that number is for their draft class.

1628
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:53,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, and restructures are rarely an issue for players because

1629
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 2: it usually means more money in their pocket right now

1630
01:25:58,000 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 2: rather than having to wait for it and earn it

1631
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 2: the form of a base salary, and most players are

1632
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 2: more than agreeable to that. It's more of the pay

1633
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 2: cut stuff that gets a little sticky sometimes. Steve on

1634
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:12,599
Speaker 2: the tweets sheet says, I want to hear that they

1635
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:16,799
Speaker 2: are in negotiations with both Rasuell Douglas extension and Daikwon

1636
01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 2: Jones new contract. Yeah, I'd be fine with both of those,

1637
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 2: except especially if Douglas's extension reduces his cap figure, because

1638
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:29,519
Speaker 2: he's I think he's got like a nine million dollar

1639
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 2: cap figure this year, and you've got to believe they

1640
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 2: want to reduce that to some degree. And maybe they

1641
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 2: do that by spreading the money out a little bit more.

1642
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:39,680
Speaker 2: That would be a restructure. And if they're working with

1643
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 2: Daikwon Jones already on a new contract, I'll be pretty.

1644
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:44,640
Speaker 3: Happy about that me too. I'd love to see him

1645
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:46,479
Speaker 3: here next year. He was a big part of that

1646
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 3: defensive line room. I know we missed him for several

1647
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 3: several weeks, but the beginning of the season and the

1648
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 3: end of the season with him were great, right.

1649
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 2: And I think it's safe to say that Ed Oliver

1650
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:01,840
Speaker 2: was often at his big when he had Daikwon Jones

1651
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:04,800
Speaker 2: lining up next to him. Gotta take a break here,

1652
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 2: some final thoughts on the tweet sheet when we return

1653
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live, presented by Klaida Health, It's

1654
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, one last second You're on

1655
01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:29,040
Speaker 2: a Thursday edition of One Bill's Live. Chris Brown Matty

1656
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 2: glad with you and one last comment on the tweet

1657
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 2: sheet here and this one comes from Randy and he says, Brownie,

1658
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 2: don't forget about the big x Xavier Legette, South Carolina,

1659
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 2: big fast, contested catch monster and plays special teams. Sounds

1660
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 2: like a guy that will contribute in some form or

1661
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:50,840
Speaker 2: another from the get go. Yeah, we're We've got a

1662
01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 2: Xavier Lagette on the radar. Don't worry. I think you

1663
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 2: might be surprised. He is thickly built, but he only

1664
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:01,280
Speaker 2: measured six to one at the Senior Bowl, so he's

1665
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 2: not super tall. Tall enough and he is a monster,

1666
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 2: like a contested catch monster is an accurate description. I

1667
01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 2: know that just talking around the league to some people.

1668
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 2: One of the other concerns scouts have about him is

1669
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:22,320
Speaker 2: he didn't break out until his fifth year senior season,

1670
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:25,839
Speaker 2: when he went last year seventy one twelve to fifty

1671
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 2: five and seven touchdowns. Prior to that, his best season

1672
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 2: was in twenty twenty two eighteen receptions, one hundred and

1673
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:38,719
Speaker 2: sixty seven yards in thirteen games. That's his next best season.

1674
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 2: So there is a concern, and that's where scouts feel

1675
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 2: better about projecting a guy with a bigger body of work,

1676
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,679
Speaker 2: and that's why it's generally thought he is not going

1677
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 2: anywhere in the first round and maybe not go until

1678
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 2: the second half of round two because the body of

1679
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 2: work isn't there.

1680
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:59,240
Speaker 3: Well, Hey, if there's guys who have potential to play

1681
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 3: at a high level this league that you're gonna drop

1682
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 3: into Day two and day three, sign me up because

1683
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:04,040
Speaker 3: we'll pick them.

1684
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll just keep picking them till we have no

1685
01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:09,600
Speaker 2: more picks. Leave. That is it for us today. But

1686
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:11,960
Speaker 2: Manny and I will be right back here tomorrow as

1687
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:15,920
Speaker 2: we have a mock Draft watch special as Maddy updates

1688
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 2: us on the latest thing that people around the league

1689
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 2: are saying about who the Bills are taking at twenty eight.

1690
01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 2: That's if they stay there. We'll see you tomorrow at

1691
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:28,719
Speaker 2: one