WEBVTT - MELIQUE BERGER-- Keeping it Kosher with Mom's Spaghetti 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.000 Speaks to the Plannet. 0:00:01.000 --> 0:00:02.520 I'll go by the name of Charlamagne the God and 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:04.920 guess what, I can't wait to see y'all at the 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:08.319 third annual Black Effect Podcast Festival. That's right, We're coming 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:11.360 back to Atlanta, Georgia, Saturday, April twenty six at Pollman 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:15.000 Yards and it's hosted by none other than Decisions, Decisions Man, 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:17.560 d B and Wheezy. Okay, we got the R and 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:20.319 B Money podcast. We're taking Jay Valentine. We got the 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:22.880 Woman of All Podcasts with Sarah Jake Roberts. We got 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:25.479 Good Mom's Bad Choices. 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Berger is in the building and I 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:13.160 keep having I think I'm so focused on your voiceover 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:15.800 talents that I'm like starting to funel my words because 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:19.360 I really want to hear rhyme from Pokemon on the mic. 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:23.600 Oh please, stuff, now listen. You gotta just think within yourself, 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:27.920 be yourself, be Judy yourself, baby girl. 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:31.520 I love this. What can you do? More voiceovers too? 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:32.800 Since I have you, I'm gonna take you. 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:34.440 I do this. 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:36.679 I was like, if a singer is sitting here, I'm like, 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:40.920 you gonna sing me my one on one concert right now. 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:43.600 I'm enjoy this, enjoy well. First of all, let me 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:46.800 tell you something you don't know me. So we got 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:51.160 a little missus Pancakes. Wow, I'm Ricky Morty. Wow. And 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:54.880 then there's there's just always my bubby, my Jewish bubby 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:57.920 from Brooklyn. Will forget about that. Now Ruthy Burger is 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:00.600 in the building and she's gonna be She's gonna stay, 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:04.840 so don't start with her. Wow. Ever, there's just so 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:08.160 many of this beautiful, just so many characters, and there's always 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:11.920 there's always a cerebro from X Men, which welcome professor. 0:02:13.639 --> 0:02:17.040 Oh my gosh. So, just so you guys know, you 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:22.600 are the first black female actress in the Pokemon series 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:25.840 Guys that is coming out on Netflix right now, is 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:27.400 on Netflix. You can ask them right now. 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:30.480 She's and I want to say something even more. I mean, 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:35.600 I'm the first female black queer gym leader and trainer. 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:40.519 Now my character, I'm not going to classify her as queer, 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:43.440 but I will classify her as the first female black 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:45.040 trainer and gym leader. 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:45.760 Wow. 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.360 So that that's that's a big deal. And for it 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:50.760 to happen on Black History Months, I mean, yeah, this 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:54.200 is incredible. And she dropped on my birthday on February seventh, 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:59.160 So oh, you're a catch. You down come to you that? OK, 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:02.800 it's just an honor. It's an honor, and you know, 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:07.600 you always just want to reach one other sister, one 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:11.200 little girl that's talking into her hairbrush like I was 0:03:11.280 --> 0:03:13.080 my entire life. 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:15.679 I'm like, I know we're supposed to get into the dish, 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:19.160 but I'm really curious. So I'm gonna go ahead, just 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:22.119 get into a guy early. But this interview is gonna 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.000 be a little backwards, but I'm just curious. So, like, 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:27.280 you get the roles, how does it work? 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:27.560 Are you? 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:29.640 Do you have your own recording studio at home or 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:30.920 do you have to go into studios? 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:34.040 Have cur okay? Well, things changed with the pandemic. People 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:37.400 started having their own studios and recording that way. But 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:40.080 this was something that I went into the studio and 0:03:40.120 --> 0:03:43.080 I did the audition from home, but then the job 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:46.160 happened in studio. I do a lot of my auditions 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:48.960 from home, but I've also been a working voice of 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:50.480 for actor for thirty six years. 0:03:50.840 --> 0:03:54.160 I think that's amazing. And then you've never did you 0:03:54.240 --> 0:03:57.280 have to ride the bus of the roller coaster from 0:03:57.280 --> 0:03:59.520 hell in the industry because you've had a long career. 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:02.920 Is it like they just go call Malik on this, 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:03.760 Malik will handle it? 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:04.640 Alike, will do it? 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:06.680 Or do you still have to pay your dues even 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:08.120 though you have such a long resume. 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:13.080 My dues are very interesting. We'll say I have always 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:17.039 paid dues. But my mother, God rest her soul, Myra Berger, 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:21.040 was a very big commercial agent and on camera commercial agent, 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:25.000 and before that she was a theater producer. So I'm 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:28.760 born and raised in this business. I have been working 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:32.600 since I was three, starting with Russian ballet. I got 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:36.440 my first acting scholarship at five from the Alphan Theatrical 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:42.360 Ensemble so I've been working by disciplined. Yes, by seven, 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:46.080 I was playing the flute with the Los Angeles Philharmonic 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:52.000 and James Galway. I started studying Shakespeare at nine and ten. 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:54.719 You're making my daughter look very lazy. 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:55.719 Right, She's not lazy. 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:59.200 I didn't even get her to brother, let alone audition 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:03.520 and memorize. Well, lower was your mom? Your mom hasn't 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:05.520 been strict. I'm just trying to imagine, because I'm telling 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:07.919 you right now my daughter tap dances all over me. 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:11.320 Well, well, my kids are also, hopefully they're more wildly 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:14.280 talented than I'll ever be. I got two lyricists that 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:17.039 are giving you their drop of knowledge that I'm like, 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:20.320 they listened, Wow, I listened, Oh my god. 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:23.280 But to start at three, four or five, seven and 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:26.159 a half, all these responsibilities, I would imagine your home 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:28.839 life was very strict or not at all. 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:33.400 My mom was a bohemian. I lived in a theater. 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:36.039 That's how it started. My mom was a theater producer. 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:38.920 My mom and my antiguin they were just like there 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:42.400 were art people and my mom being you know, this 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:46.120 cool Jewish check from Brooklyn. Before I came around, she 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:49.640 was very much into the black theater scene in the 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:54.160 early sixties, mid sixties here in Hollywood. She my family 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:57.760 moved here from Brooklyn in the mid sixties. My mom's 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:01.400 older brother, Shelly Berger, was as one of his I 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:05.440 guess still was, Well he is. He's the Temptations manager. 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:08.599 So he was in business with mister Hardy and he 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:11.159 was one of the vice presidents of Motown Wow. And 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:16.040 he had already moved to California, and my family decided 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:17.560 to follow him. 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:19.600 Oh wow with it. 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:23.440 Yeah they did. And so my mom found out they 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:26.920 were moving to California and she was always just drawn too. 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:29.040 And how old were you when you had to move? 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:30.800 I wasn't I wasn't here yet. 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:33.880 Oh you weren't here. Oh so you're not a Brooklyn girl. 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:36.960 You're a Calli girl. You want to raise for household damn. 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.800 But you got to accident down good? Yeah, that accident 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:42.320 down good. That was totally believed that. 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:45.680 Okay, No, I'm not Brooklyn, I am La. I'm West Hollywood. 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:48.760 That's how you know your voiceover work is platinum status 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:52.040 because I was like, you do that voice great sang? Okay, 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:55.479 so you're gonna take me into what you're eating when 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:59.320 you're broke. What are you gonna have me eating today? 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:03.880 Okay, so I will tell you the broke situation. 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:04.679 Good. 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:08.679 My mother was and is and will always be my life, 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:11.640 my mentor, my everything because it was just my mom 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:15.360 and I. When my mom decided to marry my dad, 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:18.640 who was black and God rest his soul, also, she 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:21.520 went to my Jewish grandparents and said, the night before 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:24.560 mel and I are going to get married, and we'd 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:27.080 very much like you to come to city Hall tomorrow. 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:32.240 My Jewish grandparents said, we understand what we're going to do. 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:35.280 Please call us when you're done, and do not have 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:36.040 any children. 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:39.320 I believe that as a Jewish and black child, I 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:45.000 believe that I've been there. Okay, so totally relatable. See, 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:45.800 we're gonna be best. 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:48.200 I told you, I told you, I told you so. 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:51.640 When this happened, she was just owned by my grandparents. 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:54.080 And even though my uncle could you know he was 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:55.640 doing what he was doing, and that was cool because 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:57.679 he's a man, but this was their daughter. 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:01.000 So wait, your uncle was doing because he was because 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:02.440 temptations and all that. 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:04.000 Yeah, it still does. God bless them. 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:04.280 Yeah. 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:07.280 Yeah, so it's not It wasn't a broke thing. It 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:10.520 was an away thing, and you know, my mom and 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:12.520 dad did what they did. It worked as much as 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:15.720 it worked. But by nineteen months it was done. And 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:18.600 she called my uncle Shelly, and he got us home. 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:21.520 And there are a lot of issues with my mom 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:23.680 and my dad, but they made sure to tell me 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:26.800 you were made out of love, and I was love 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:28.760 that and that was And I never saw my dad again. 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:34.080 They got divorced. I never saw him again. So my mother, ever, ever, ever, ever, 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:34.720 ever again? 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:35.600 How old were you? 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:40.400 I was nineteen months most half? I guess, yeah, do 0:08:40.480 --> 0:08:41.320 you even remember that? 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:42.920 None? 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:44.800 I have no recollection of any of it. 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:46.400 But do you have like pictures or something? 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:49.600 I have a picture. I have a picture. So it's 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.360 very interesting to not know that entire side. 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:56.000 Oh so you don't know the whole entire side. No, oh, 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:57.360 we got stuff, We got stuff. 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:00.559 Relate O. Okay, we really do. So you will now 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:04.000 tell you about Jewish spaghetti and Jewish hampergos. So this 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:04.920 is arrested. 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:08.200 I'm going to backtrack. So were they when they were 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:11.800 together and she got disowned for the time that she 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.200 got disowned, were you guys struggling? Did she share that? 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:16.640 Were they struggling together during that period. 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:19.520 The struggle was my my father was a huge which 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:22.160 she didn't know. He was a drug addict and a 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:25.240 huge alcoholic. And it's really funny. She met him at 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:29.080 Bonnie's Beanery. I'm Santa Monica in Los Angle and he 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:30.520 walked up to her and he said, hey, you want 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:35.480 to be my old lady, and she said yes, and 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:38.240 that's how that happened. Okay, So, yeah, there was some 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:39.439 problem she didn't know about. 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:43.320 Okay, Okay, Okay, that's a that's a lot to handle. 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:44.240 That's that happens. 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:46.360 Yeah, I feel like I'm so invasive. 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:50.520 No please show I'm ready. Okay, there's no shame. 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:55.400 Okay, tell me this story. My new friend Malik, So 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:56.560 you know that she. 0:09:56.600 --> 0:10:00.320 Moved to Baldwin Hills, she had her baby and up 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:02.920 there was a lot of alcoholism and a lot of 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:06.760 drug abuse in that situation, you know, and she took it. 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:10.320 She took it because my mom's a G. She's a G. 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:14.360 And again, she was really into the theater scene. So 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:18.240 and it was absolutely it was black a blaxploitation time 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:21.400 when she was hanging with like dope black actors at 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:24.920 that time. Arnold Williams was one of them. Ron Rich 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:28.960 was another one of them. She also, come to find 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:32.240 out later in life, was dear close with her true prior. 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:36.680 And that's another story because we'll get into she's my 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:41.040 relationship Raine Pryor, who is my sister. Okay, and that's 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:44.480 where fried Chicken Unlacus comes in. But that's that's that. 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:47.360 That's another story which we will talk about too. Good. 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:50.920 So this recipe that we're going to talk about about 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:55.720 our George spaghetti and hamburgers. It wasn't that that we 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:58.160 were broke. We were well. It was we were broke. 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:01.000 We were broke because we were alone because we didn't 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:04.760 get that money anymore from my grandparents. They didn't know me. 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:05.920 Yeah. 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:08.640 But when we came back and my uncle Shelly did 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:12.600 come and basically rescue us from a situation. He called 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:14.480 my grandparents and he said, you better get up here 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:19.839 and meet your granddaughter. Oh that one got emotional for you. 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.800 Yeah good, I want to see you cry before me. Okay, 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:25.600 sorry because I cried with the Okay, so. 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:29.520 Sorry, you go. And I will forever be grateful for 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:32.800 him to bring me home. I had to bring my 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:35.920 mom home and to keep us safe and I'll tell 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:38.680 you when Jack and Ruth Berger saw their grand baby, 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:43.360 they gave me the most beautiful life and my Jewish 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:46.760 Jewish education, and they threw me to the arms of 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:49.160 the rabbi and I am very proud. Drew. 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:54.280 I love that. So there was that, Yeah, so my 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:58.160 grandma's So they embraced you. It just. 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:00.959 Was I was a baby girl. 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:04.959 Did they ever talk about not trying to be negative? 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:09.440 But did they ever at some point bring up the 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:11.880 biracial part of denied it? They denied it. 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:15.600 I was so light skinned. They just didn't talk about 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:17.479 it until I talked about. 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:20.440 It, and then you started getting more vocal with it. 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:23.439 I got very vocal with it. I'm super vocal with it. 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:27.839 In nineteen eighty nine, I was a big dancer still 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:31.040 and I went to a club called Water the Bush 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:36.400 and met Africa Islam and got very indoctrinated into the zulination. 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:40.600 I actually was the second name Zulu Queen in Los Angeles. 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:43.559 Hip hop and graffiti are a big part of my life, 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:48.360 and that was it. That was my thing, and I 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:53.320 was very proud. I still am proud to anybody who's listening, 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:56.920 and that I talked about it. A lot, and I 0:12:56.960 --> 0:13:01.200 think by the air of young you poor. One year, 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:04.200 I was going to see the minister Farrakhon speak and 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:06.880 my mother called my grandfather and she was like, Daddy, 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:10.720 like she's gonna go and she's gonna hear fharicn. And 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:13.880 my grandfather said, my you have to let it do 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:16.839 what she's gonna do, because one day she's going to 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:20.280 have to pick. And then my cousin Nicole was like, Papa, 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:21.520 you can't make her pick. 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:25.840 Yeah, she's everything. Yeah, but did you feel a lot 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:28.320 of pressure growing up like you had to pick? So 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:32.040 because it eventually becomes like this prevailing like thing culturally right, 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:36.080 because are the blacks really accepting you? And are the Jews? Definitely? 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:37.640 Are the whites accepting you? 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:39.680 Well, I went to Hebrew school for a long time, 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:42.319 so I'll tell you there's a lot of are you adopted? 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:44.839 Did you convert? And Jewel? 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:46.760 Well, if your mom is Jeelle. 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:49.720 That's the thing though in different spaces, and I talked 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:52.600 to rain about this all the time. You are asked 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:55.640 if you converted, and we're to the place where no, 0:13:55.760 --> 0:13:58.000 we did not convert, And why are we being asked 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:01.720 that if our mother's are Jew? Why are you asking 0:14:01.800 --> 0:14:04.560 me this? Now? We've risen above that and there's so 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:08.680 many more black Jews now, which really leads me to 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:12.000 the ninth birthday I had at Flipper's roller boogie ballas 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:15.560 I saw Rain. She was skating there and I was 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:18.560 nine and I saw this girl that looked like me, 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:21.320 and I skated right up to her and I said, 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:23.520 you have to come to my birthday party. And she 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:26.840 was like, when is it? And I said, it's right now, 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:31.280 because I never saw another person that resembled me, and 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:33.800 it wound up being Rain and Rain and I have 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:37.280 been together ever since, and we didn't know who we were, 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:41.120 that our parents knew each other. And we forged through 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:44.200 this together because we thought we were the only two 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:48.680 black Jews in the world at that point. And we 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:53.120 have gone through it together. So she's mine. There's the 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:58.960 other tier, she's the other foot, you know. And we 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:02.080 did it and we had no idea that our folks 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:06.640 even knew each other. And that's pretty did and then yeah, 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.000 and so I'm the fast one and she's the one 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:09.800 that got the straighted. 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:12.280 You did mention though it was your mom that called 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:16.000 your dad that was concerned about the you showing up 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:16.840 to the Fara con. 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:19.280 No, it was my mom that called my grandfather. 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:20.640 It was your mom calling your grandfather. 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:22.600 She was with my dad. 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:25.800 No, I met your mother calling your grandfather. So she 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:27.680 was concerned about it too though. 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:29.280 Because she thought that I would turn my back on 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:32.400 the Jewish community. And she didn't know. There was never 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:32.960 a dad. 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:35.920 There was my papa, I met your I met your grandfather. 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:39.000 Yeah, but I will tell you there never was a dad. 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:39.560 Yeah. 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:44.360 My grandfather was the the patriarch, and that was the everything, 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:47.200 and that's who sent me to Hebrew School. And you know, 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:48.720 so I went through a lot. So I went through 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:52.320 a lot there, but my Jewish identity is everything to 0:15:52.400 --> 0:15:57.280 me and sisters, I'll tell you, I've had some some renans. 0:15:57.520 --> 0:16:02.480 I've had some rennans, especially dancing back dancing Russian ballet. 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:06.520 That was a lot too, you know, And it was 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:10.720 a lot on camera because you can't be funny and curvy, 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:14.400 I mean eighty one, eighty two, eighty three, eighty five. 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:18.640 It was like, you're too funny to be curvy, and 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:22.880 you're too light to be connected with another family. So 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:26.600 you either need to get really really fat or lose 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:30.680 all all of everything to get a job. Wo you know, 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:33.160 a different world was where we went here in La 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:36.600 to like it was the stable, like here's your pink 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:40.760 and green sweatshirt, and here's your special business. And it 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:44.720 just turned into something that got very sad. It was sad. 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:48.120 Maybe coming on voiceover artists was a fluke. It was 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:51.480 an accident. Oh, it was an accident. 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:56.560 It is so it is almost lunch stiff and we're 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:58.560 gonna be eating. So what do you was sorry to 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:00.680 derail you one hundred times about eating. 0:17:01.160 --> 0:17:05.480 We are eating Jewish spaghetti and hamburgers, which was my 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:09.720 It was my grandma Ruth, My bubby roots was the recipe. 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:13.679 So this is the recipe that you could do it 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:17.040 two ways. If you had a little extra money, you 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:21.520 could make it with salmon croquettes. If you were ball 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:24.280 and on a budget, you could do it with hamburger. 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:27.480 We're going to do it with turkey, Yes, tonight, accommodate 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:32.000 with turkey. We're going to do some accommodations. And the 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:35.879 reason we call it Jewish spaghetti is there's no olive oil, 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:37.440 there's no garlic. 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:38.840 Got it? 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:39.480 Got it? 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:42.160 Also, I should remove the garlic powder that is. 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:45.159 Fine, don't worm about gard but it is basically butter 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:49.800 instead of oils, onions instead of garlic, and it's a 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:55.679 it's quick and simple, large can of tomato sauce, tomato paste, 0:17:56.400 --> 0:18:00.680 a lot of love. And what I did motsa meal 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:04.240 instead of bread crumbs. And what I did as my 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:07.240 son's got older, was we had to get that creolesis 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:10.480 and just a little bit to get as of blackness 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:12.399 that sounds of blackness. 0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:13.880 And then you had the eggs. 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:17.480 The eggs are going to bind our meat. And then 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:22.240 it served with our favorite This is like the kool 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:31.040 aid of of Jewish grape juice last right, which is 0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:34.400 non alcoholic. And so we have that and we'll talk 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:36.720 about that stuff too. So what do we do? You 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:37.440 get to do it? 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:40.639 You down, I'm gonna be the lazy side chip that's like, 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:43.400 please don't burn down and ooh that's how you make it. 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:47.280 And I'm gonna be eating very good today. So go ahead, 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:50.640 start cooking. Here we go, let's get I'm gonna get 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:53.960 all up in your business and find out more she 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:58.400 up in my business exactly, all right, all right, go ahead, 0:18:58.400 --> 0:18:59.879 start cooking, cooking. 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:03.440 Okay, So I'm going to start with the. 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:06.879 Share out the way, so chair it's trying to like 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:07.840 it's because it's. 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:12.879 This is not the big d it. Okay, here we go. 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:16.000 I'm gonna start with my of my onions just this. 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:20.320 Oh no it's not on Okay, so that the right one. 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:23.840 Tell you a joke. I can't do it on the 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:27.520 spot like that. But while you're heating the oven, well, 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:32.600 actually you could. Just most of our audience are listeners 0:19:32.760 --> 0:19:35.399 and they're not able to watch the episodes, so you 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:37.480 could go ahead and start telling us how to make 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:37.920 the dish. 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:39.399 Knife. 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:42.359 She needs a knife. You know. We kept just so 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:45.520 you guys know, we kept going Malik, I'm missing anything 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:46.800 and within. 0:19:46.640 --> 0:19:50.400 Ten seconds missing knife. Okay, well then I will tell 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:56.280 you listeners. Butter in the burger household is basically it's everything. 0:19:56.320 --> 0:19:58.080 That's how you know if someone could cook good by 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:01.080 the way, if they use butter. I go through just 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:02.840 so you know about twelve sticks a butter a week. 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:05.240 I love you for that, really, I love you for that. 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:07.960 People always ask like, what's so good about it? I'm like, butter, 0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:09.800 real butter, and it's not a. 0:20:09.720 --> 0:20:12.240 Bit of salted. It has to be salted. I don't 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:15.720 care if you say and don't use unsalted better butter. 0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:24.800 I saw we had Chris Spencer on the show and 0:20:24.920 --> 0:20:28.560 he said something I never heard someone say. He said, 0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:32.560 unsalted butter is just like using macoline, Like what are 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:34.399 you doing? And I was like, oh my god, that 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:35.160 was so brilliant. 0:20:35.440 --> 0:20:37.560 That is good and pick up just Chris Spencer. My 0:20:37.560 --> 0:20:41.600 mom was Chris Spencer's agent. So what Chris Spencer. Everyone 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:45.600 knows spaky. It's laky. What's that? You know? Funny thing 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:49.400 about butter? People are so scared of it. Please don't 0:20:49.440 --> 0:20:50.080 be scared of but it. 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:50.280 Butter. 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:52.919 It's a fine thing. Butter is a fine thing. So 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:56.240 there's that. So I'll tell you some more. Then I'll 0:20:56.240 --> 0:21:00.320 give you some more of the story. My mom suddenly 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:06.639 passed away in twenty six, twenty thirteen. My mom found 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:10.520 out that she contracted hepatitis se from my dad because 0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:14.840 he was an intravenous drug user. And in ninety nine 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:20.400 I got sober because I had some really bad issues 0:21:20.440 --> 0:21:23.399 with drugs and alcohol and it was something that needed 0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:27.040 to happen. Now, God spared me because I happened to 0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:29.440 believe in God that I don't push it on anybody. Else. 0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:32.320 But that's just who I am. I'm a child of God, 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:34.960 and that's why I'm still alive because the things I've 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:39.040 done in my life, you would I'm walking miracle straight up. 0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:43.399 And I got sober, and my deal was because it 0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:46.280 was just me and my mom, who was my agent, 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:48.160 my manager, my life force. 0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:50.720 I mean, my mom and. 0:21:51.080 --> 0:21:54.280 I got sober. But the outclause was if anything God 0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:57.440 forbid were to happen to her, I was going out. 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:02.439 I had been married to my kid's dad. I'm also queer. 0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:04.400 He knew that's the deal. 0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:07.040 From one day to dude, just know you told him 0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:07.400 up front. 0:22:08.040 --> 0:22:11.480 Any guy I dated son, if you're watching, I didn't 0:22:11.520 --> 0:22:12.399 know because you do. 0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:16.720 Oh well, so he knew. I gotta get I'm curious. 0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:20.119 Okay someone wait wait, so he knew any signed up? 0:22:20.119 --> 0:22:23.480 And what was the arrangement? Like you could tolerate? 0:22:23.720 --> 0:22:27.399 Absolutely? Absolutely, okay, absolutely, that's just how it is. 0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:30.040 And he was cool with it, of course, very because 0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:31.880 I mean, that's not a bad deal too. 0:22:32.280 --> 0:22:35.560 Listen, well, you know I separate my poisons. You don't 0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:37.760 have anything to do with what I do on my day. 0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:41.879 What if he says, though, did it open him up 0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:45.400 to say, well, can I opt for extras. 0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:48.080 To you know what? That was? Even he was a musician, 0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:51.040 so when he was on the road or whatnot, that 0:22:51.080 --> 0:22:53.080 doesn't have anything to do with me. I'm a lot 0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:55.159 of what you do does not anything to do with me. 0:22:55.640 --> 0:22:56.399 Okay, o. 0:22:56.920 --> 0:22:57.280 Business. 0:22:57.440 --> 0:22:59.360 As I get older, I'm starting to get there. I'm 0:22:59.359 --> 0:23:02.600 starting to be like, I'm going to do myself. Yeah, 0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:03.440 I know who I am. 0:23:04.080 --> 0:23:06.800 So there's that. And what it is is what it is, 0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:08.880 what it is, what it is, you know what I'm saying. 0:23:09.359 --> 0:23:12.520 So I say that because there was a reason I 0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:13.240 was saying that. 0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:16.560 So wait, wait, if you were if you are queer, sorry, 0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:19.080 but you married a man? What what what was your 0:23:19.119 --> 0:23:21.800 intention to marry him? Were you just in love or something? 0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:23.679 I fell in love. I fell in love. And that 0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:26.800 goes back to the sobriety because I met one of 0:23:26.800 --> 0:23:29.800 my first sponsors was black and Jewish and I'm also 0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:32.960 a singer. So she said, okay, I'm gonna take you 0:23:33.000 --> 0:23:37.600 to this church because they need singers. And I walked 0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:39.560 into this little we went into it. It was like 0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:45.480 an alley in Englewood. It was a garage and so funny, 0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:48.280 and you know, I'm in my Fred Siegel's Best. If 0:23:48.320 --> 0:23:51.159 you don't know Fred Siegel, everybody it was. It was 0:23:51.520 --> 0:23:55.040 terribly expensive clothing still and Lauros and I had just 0:23:55.040 --> 0:23:57.159 turned thirty. It was like two weeks in the thirty 0:23:57.520 --> 0:24:00.160 and I walked in. This brother was warming up his sacks, 0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:03.280 and I was dressed terribly inappropriately to go to church. 0:24:03.359 --> 0:24:05.280 Of course, because you know me, you already know me, 0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:06.399 and I can. 0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:08.600 I'm visiting it. 0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:14.520 I'm fierced. And you know I met I met Damon Renti, 0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:18.920 and he was the original saxophonist of Atlantic Star and 0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:21.439 de Barge and this and that and this and that. 0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:23.200 I'm putting my hand in here right now. 0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:26.320 I was just more concerned that she is not even 0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:27.399 used in the Little Spring. 0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:30.080 You gotta feel it. You gotta feel. You have to 0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:33.360 your onions, you gotta feel your salt. You what's going on? 0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:35.080 Very fancy. 0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:40.200 She's a fancy last, She's a fantasy live. 0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:42.120 I've never in my life cooked and did that whole 0:24:42.119 --> 0:24:43.879 spriggle thing, but I think I'm going to steal that 0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:44.919 sprinkle on. 0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:46.760 You gotta get your sprinkled and teach my daughter how 0:24:46.760 --> 0:24:48.399 to do this, just even if you don't know how 0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:49.520 to cook. Just do it. Do that. 0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:51.560 So you walk into the walk into the. 0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:54.440 Church and and it's on because he's warming up his sacks, 0:24:54.840 --> 0:24:57.000 and like, oh, that's what I'm going to marry. Also 0:24:57.040 --> 0:24:59.679 without having a dad. You know, I knew that this 0:24:59.840 --> 0:25:03.600 was He's fifteen years my senior, and I wanted to 0:25:03.640 --> 0:25:06.639 have children, and I said, oh, this is going to 0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:09.919 be safe. And I needed safety because I had just 0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:13.480 gotten sober and I knew I didn't want to be 0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:17.600 who I was any longer. And that's what happened. And 0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:20.359 we were together for quite some time, and we had 0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:26.000 beautiful boys. Lys lyricsis shout out to seventy, shout out 0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:31.480 to Negro Ku, Kooli Jackson and Julian and we did that. 0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:33.200 We you know, we did this thing. We made a 0:25:33.200 --> 0:25:36.080 beautiful album together and we're still. That's one of my 0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:39.080 best friends. Man, that's that's one of my best friends. 0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:40.720 So you meet him, meet. 0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:45.399 Ministry two thousand. 0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:49.879 Ministry two thousand, and then does Sobriety end up creeping 0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:50.240 in there? 0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:53.840 Nope, stayed Sobriety stayed good. But him and my mom 0:25:53.880 --> 0:25:54.840 were like oil and water. 0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:57.639 Okay, there was that because. 0:25:57.280 --> 0:26:01.240 First of all, my mom was tough from Brooklyn five 0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:01.880 feet tall. 0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:04.919 Wait it was he he's black? Yes, okay, okay, got. 0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:06.800 It, got it. And but we all lived together because 0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:10.280 my mom had just what does it call when you 0:26:10.359 --> 0:26:12.280 leave your job because you retire? 0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:13.000 That's it? 0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:15.760 Okay, And you don't separate me from my mom. 0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:17.440 Yeah, you just don't package steel. 0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:20.679 We're a package steel. But all in all, oh, pepper, 0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:25.040 pepper gone. All in all, we had two beautiful babies. 0:26:25.560 --> 0:26:28.479 And I say that because in this he did support 0:26:28.480 --> 0:26:31.640 my sobriety so much and I was able to stay sober. 0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:35.680 But when we had started parting our ways, I did 0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:39.119 find out that my mom was very sick, and it 0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:46.560 happened very quickly. My mom had gout and after we separated, 0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:50.000 they had given my mom a medication that woke up 0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:53.680 the pepsi and within three years my mom was gone. 0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:54.959 Wow. 0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:59.879 So I didn't have the upbringing as many folks do. 0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:03.000 When you're in my industry. This is what you do 0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:06.240 with your money, this is how my mom handled everything. 0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:11.040 And even in marriage, my mom still handled all of 0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:14.320 my because she was my ancient and a manager, my 0:27:14.400 --> 0:27:15.200 business manager. 0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:18.320 So and were you and your husband at the time 0:27:18.359 --> 0:27:19.280 doing really well? 0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:22.360 Or we were we were fine, but everything was separate. 0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:23.679 Everything was separate. 0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:28.280 So she was most definitely So I didn't know how 0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:32.639 to pay a bill or right. I knew how to 0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:34.960 write a check, but you know, I didn't know how 0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:38.240 to take care of myself. And I had my two boys, 0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:41.920 and you know we lived the life of Riley m Well, 0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:44.880 that's not realistic. I then found out the hard way, 0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:49.639 so like when they turned the lights off at the 0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:54.000 condo that we got, and when I didn't know how 0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:58.960 to go shopping and I didn't know that you needed 0:27:59.040 --> 0:28:01.959 like quarters and stuff when you didn't have a washing machine. 0:28:02.920 --> 0:28:09.200 The night of my mom's memorial, I just said, well, Fitt, 0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:14.399 call the dude, and I was out. You know, within 0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:18.840 minutes of my mom passing, I took, well, you know 0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:23.040 you're going to call someone when you're gonna start using drinking. 0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:27.840 So while my mom was dying, I packed it in 0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:29.800 and gave up fourteen years of sobriety. 0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:34.640 Fourteen years, my goodness, fourteen years. You wasn't lying when 0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:37.000 you said this story was how was that? 0:28:37.640 --> 0:28:39.440 Now was that? And at that time I want to 0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:43.720 say that Jackson and Julian were oh no, oh tomato 0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:46.040 paste tomato paste, So you want to get the tomato 0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:49.440 paste into the butter, into the onions first because you 0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:52.440 want to melt it down. And this is one small 0:28:52.520 --> 0:28:56.360 can of tomato paste. Yeah, I'm gonna put this here. 0:28:56.720 --> 0:28:57.560 Do whatever you want. 0:28:58.200 --> 0:28:59.920 Everything, Thank you. Everything's going together and. 0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:03.120 This story is so good. Every time you step and 0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:03.720 now it's agree. 0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:05.600 It's just all there, we go, there, we go. 0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:10.160 Okay, So you so you had I'm just curious, genuinely, 0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:12.680 like emotionally, how did you feel on the inside when 0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:15.360 you like just said goodbye to fourteen years of sobriety 0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:16.800 because that had to have been a tough pill. 0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:22.120 I felt nothing because I lost my mother and I 0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:26.760 was not prepared and I didn't want to be here 0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:29.960 anymore because I didn't know how to survive without her, 0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:34.080 because we didn't have a plan for that. And I 0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:39.120 was very angry with God and I I didn't know 0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:43.520 what to do with my babies, and I even asked 0:29:43.600 --> 0:29:45.880 him to take them. I didn't know what to do. 0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:49.840 And Jack and Julian are eighteen months apart, an aquarius 0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:56.960 and a cancer. They are anointed angelic. They're everything good 0:29:57.280 --> 0:30:01.040 about me. And I did not deserved to be their 0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:06.440 mother as far as I was concerned, Tomato sauce. I 0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:08.240 lost it. I lost it. 0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:11.560 So how long were you in the I lost it mode? 0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:14.360 Three years? Three years, three years. 0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:17.440 You're so strong, it's so powerful right now, it's crazy 0:30:17.440 --> 0:30:19.080 to imagine that three years. 0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:22.640 Yeah, I did some research for three years, and for 0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:28.120 three years, these young men grew up. These young men. 0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:29.800 Grew How old were they at the time, I'm sorry 0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:30.000 to be. 0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:36.040 They were in third So it started third and fifth 0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:41.120 grade into oh no, no, no, no, it was middle school. 0:30:41.240 --> 0:30:45.040 They were middle school getting ready like Jack. At the 0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:47.560 end of it, Jack was just starting high school. You 0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:51.800 eated his first year ninth grade. I signed him up 0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:56.200 for ninth grade with a big gulplovodka and in my 0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:58.800 hand and in uber. 0:31:00.200 --> 0:31:01.120 Oh, you were in it. 0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:02.920 I was in it. Okay, I was in it. And 0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:07.000 I was, you know, leaving notes with money for pizza 0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:10.320 hut and still going to my auditions, you know, still 0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:11.480 doing my thing, still working. 0:31:12.800 --> 0:31:15.680 At this point, who's managing your money while you're in 0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:19.200 this kind of you're stuck in it. 0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:21.160 Yeah, it's just straight thugging. 0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:24.800 Did your ex take full Well he wasn't. Really, it 0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:27.320 doesn't sound like he was saying, full responsibility of the kids. 0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:30.360 He did everything he could, like he'd see them on 0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:32.680 the weekend. But what my ex did, and I you know, 0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:34.840 God bless him for the rest of every day of 0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:37.400 this life. He made sure that that rent was paid. 0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:40.480 There was always a roof over our head. He was 0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:42.880 doing their laundry, he was picking them up when he could. 0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:46.280 There's food in the house. And that's when when my friends, 0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:49.720 you know, we're gathering, you know, they were gathering. They 0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:52.840 were No one didn't check in on those babies. Those 0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:55.760 babies were never alone. But it was those babies that 0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:59.600 checked in on me. And that's when Jackson and Julian 0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:05.719 grew up and they saved me, and they checked in 0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:08.160 on you. Yes they did. 0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:10.360 Are you comfortable getting into that, Yes i am. 0:32:11.120 --> 0:32:14.640 I'm very very I'm truly blessed that I'm alive to 0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:19.280 tell you the story. And when that happened, it was like, 0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:22.680 what were they gonna do? You know, I don't have 0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:25.480 There weren't many people they could have called. Now the 0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:27.000 sauce as hopefully you see. 0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:31.160 Is it looks good, it looks delicious. I'm hungry. 0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:32.920 There we go, there we go. We're going to move 0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:34.800 over to the Jewish hamburgers. 0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:36.760 Now do you want to put this here? 0:32:37.200 --> 0:32:37.920 Is that? Okay? 0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:40.239 I'm pretty sure if we burned down the house, you 0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:42.800 and I were doing it together, doing it together. And 0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:45.240 by the way, I don't have real insurance. Hare shout 0:32:45.240 --> 0:32:46.600 outs to the mall for not. 0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:48.840 Knowing we're gonna you know what, we're actually gonna do 0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:53.080 tape that we could put the sauce in here. Then okay, okay, great, 0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:59.160 go back to the story. So they check it on me. 0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:01.880 But you know it turned. I went to a place 0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:05.400 where I was this is really you know that, this 0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:09.200 is real, y'all because I was wearing a gown at 0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:12.680 pastout time every night, with a full face of makeup. 0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:16.000 So when they came in and saw me not here 0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:18.920 any longer, at least they'd have a memory of a 0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:22.280 beautiful mom oh my gosh, and they could say and 0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:27.120 not be scared to say, doesn't mommy look beautiful. I 0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:30.160 never wanted them to walk in if I wasn't here 0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:33.840 any longer and be scared. I mean, that's when you've 0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:38.960 really lost it. Yeah. So I had a spiritual awakening, 0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:43.200 and since I had so much time and so much ego. 0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:47.800 I decided that it was time to get clean, and 0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:50.280 I called a friend and I said, I'm going to 0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:54.600 DT or detox alone, because I had too much pride 0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:56.600 to step into a meeting as a newcomer again. 0:33:56.800 --> 0:34:01.160 Okay, oh yeah, because you've kind of you've been okay, okay, 0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:04.680 you know, so you go, you go into detox by yourself. 0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:07.880 Myself, I sweated out a dear friend that I'll always love. 0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:10.680 We don't speak any longer, but she came to the house. 0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:12.480 She made sure that the boys were okay. You know, 0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:14.600 I was in the bends. I got through it, I went, 0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:17.640 I did it, but I was still working as an actor. 0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:21.239 I knew how to get there, do my job, get out. 0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:23.680 Now did other people in the field know that you 0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:25.360 were struggling with this problem? 0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:31.160 Or I asked that really really well one job, not 0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:34.880 so well? Every everybody else? Well, okay, real well, at 0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:37.040 least I thought I did. And I was very skinny, 0:34:37.520 --> 0:34:41.880 and I was a little green, a little of a 0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:44.520 green haze. And you can laugh now, because tragedy pleus 0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:47.839 comedy equals sign if it does. Yeah, but I held 0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:51.200 it together best I could, and thank you so much. 0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:57.840 And I need a little room. I'm gonna go, and 0:34:58.000 --> 0:34:58.359 I did. 0:34:58.480 --> 0:35:00.319 They're like watching a movie. When I say you ever 0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:02.040 see a movie and they go to commercial, You're. 0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:04.520 Like, fuck stop commercial all. 0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:07.160 She put the bowl down, guys, let's put the meat 0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:09.000 in there. Fast forward. I want to get to the 0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:10.000 story just like you, guys. 0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:13.320 So we're gonna take two eggs right now, full starters, 0:35:13.320 --> 0:35:18.799 two eggs. And my very best friend said, listen, if 0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:23.719 you don't get clean, I will leave your life. And 0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:25.440 you've got to do it for the boys. 0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:29.200 But this is after you did detox or before. 0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:31.040 Right before she said, if you don't get clean, she 0:35:31.160 --> 0:35:34.080 took me and my best friend is Welsh, as is 0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:36.759 my new husband. She said, if you don't get you 0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:38.239 have a new husband. We'll talk. 0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:41.960 Oh my gosh. When I saying I like this story. 0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:45.880 I'm like my husband funny enough is trans I'm from Wales, 0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:48.680 so I got, we got. We got to talk. 0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:53.840 When I say, I've never been so curious, we have 0:35:53.880 --> 0:35:56.319 what forty five minutes we're gonna go all the time. 0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:58.120 Katie already knows that I feel bad because we have 0:35:58.120 --> 0:35:59.600 another guest, but we'll figure it out. 0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:02.319 A lot of talk about so anyway, if you don't 0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:04.320 get clean, it's done. I'm out of your life. Matthles, 0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:07.960 So in here right now, two eggs. We're using turkey 0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:10.200 for my sister because she's not gonna eat ground beef. 0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:12.919 And she said, so listen, let's have our last shot 0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:17.120 at Jamison. Get your ass clean, so then clean detox. 0:36:17.160 --> 0:36:22.600 Here comes the matzamal again. This is Jewish breadcrumbs. And 0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:24.879 I had my last shot at Jamison and then I 0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:29.000 went and detoxed because it wasn't just alcohol, it was 0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:33.160 also drugs. My jug of choice is very Rick James. 0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:36.000 And I'll leave it at that. And I'm glad I 0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:39.880 would have asked one hell of a drug and and 0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:44.760 I did it. I went home and I started so in. 0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:48.360 My seasoning, and she put the tonys. 0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:50.280 I believe Tony's just last. 0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:52.560 Tony's last. I'll startry season. I'm paying attention to the 0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:53.000 story gains. 0:36:53.000 --> 0:36:55.719 I'm going to I'm gonna do some onion powder after that. 0:36:57.440 --> 0:36:59.399 Just seasoning all the meat. 0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:00.680 Guys us name to me. 0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:03.359 And she's she's gangster with it because she's not even 0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:05.719 using the little sprinkle tops. 0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:07.600 All that look looks, smell and touch. 0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:10.200 Oh there we got the onion. 0:37:10.480 --> 0:37:11.799 You know what it looks like, you know what it 0:37:11.800 --> 0:37:16.640 looks like it's gonna be. And then this is where 0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:20.319 the garlic comes in at my house. Garlic at my 0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:23.640 house just a tast a little because you know it's 0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:27.719 a gas drop. Now what I did, though, I do hear. 0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:31.080 My father's from New Orleans. We didn't live. We get 0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:33.880 our our little bit, just our little bit. 0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:35.320 Of our Tony's okay. 0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:37.160 And then this is when I put the gloves on 0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:40.560 because I'm on the TV. Okay, you know it's my hand. 0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:44.880 Oh yeah, So back to the story. So you go, 0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:45.520 you go to. 0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:47.799 Oh, I don't know the detax. It's in my bed, 0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:50.080 sweating it out. Oh I thought you said you wish, 0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:54.080 So I don't go anywhere. I'm having my sheets changed 0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:59.160 every six hours or so, sweating out GATORID B twelve 0:37:59.280 --> 0:37:59.800 vitamin C. 0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:02.440 And during the whole details, are you like pooping yourself, 0:38:02.480 --> 0:38:03.799 throwing up and all that? You have to go through 0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:05.600 all those motions, like you have to go through everything, 0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:08.799 and then like, is there is there family on site 0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:11.560 to like get you drinks or just stay and are. 0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:16.680 You there's not? There's there's there's main family. There's not family. Family. 0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:21.520 I don't have a lot of family, family, a and 0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:24.600 and that's what it was. Okay, it was what it 0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:26.680 needed to be for me to do it. I don't 0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:30.120 have anya people around, but I have who I need 0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:32.799 to have to get me through because I'm in a 0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:37.560 lot of prayer. I have God, yeah, and a lot 0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:41.319 a little too much pride. But you know, if I 0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:43.920 was going to go, I was going to go. Had 0:38:43.920 --> 0:38:46.600 a couple of conversations with with death. Who to me. 0:38:47.239 --> 0:38:50.880 She never scared me. She was never coming with a 0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:53.640 sickle to take me. I felt when I saw her 0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:55.840 the three times. And I'm just going to tell everyone 0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:58.600 this might sound strange, but she's super hot. She has 0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:01.680 red hair, she looks I she had badass boots on 0:39:01.719 --> 0:39:02.960 and a hell of a belt buckle. 0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:07.319 Milike. I love you, I really think, I genuinely. 0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:10.960 Just love you. I love you too. I knew when 0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:13.800 I saw you so and she you know, she's she 0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:16.200 stood over the bed a couple of times and she 0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:18.920 just checked in just to let me know she was 0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:22.879 there and I didn't have to come. She never put 0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:25.880 her hand out to me and said let's go. She 0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:30.200 stood there and let me know I didn't have to 0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:32.480 come detox is. 0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:33.560 Really bad trip. 0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:34.480 It's a trip. 0:39:34.880 --> 0:39:36.560 So how long do you have to detox for? 0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:40.480 It took me about fourteen solid days. 0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:44.200 Fourteen days of hanging out with the girl. What's you say? 0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:44.719 She was worth? 0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:47.960 Just badass, a badass belt buckle on bad She was like, 0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:52.640 hey you she was good, she was good. Made it 0:39:52.920 --> 0:39:53.560 fourteen days? 0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:57.720 What do you so? Then you start your walk? 0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:00.680 Officially, I didn't start my walk yet. I waited thirty 0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:04.399 I waited thirty. But in this time my best friend 0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:08.799 yet again. Her husband was, I'm just gonna like clean this, 0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:10.919 you know, when I'm not, I'm gonna use the same 0:40:10.920 --> 0:40:14.080 pan and nice and hot. Here comes to oil because 0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:16.800 I'm getting ready to make some little Jewish mebals. 0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:17.839 Guys, we're gonna eat good. 0:40:18.520 --> 0:40:20.720 We don't eat good, and we're going are we hot 0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:23.600 orre we We're still hot? Okay, we're gonna put that 0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:26.600 oil in. And there was a screening for a film 0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:30.480 that he had just produced, a documentary, and their friend, 0:40:30.560 --> 0:40:34.840 who had many, many years of sobriety, was that the screening, 0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:42.200 here's the setup, and I'm in a program and of sobriety. 0:40:42.239 --> 0:40:47.080 And when there's someone there that that has time. They're 0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:51.560 sometimes called your eskimo, and your eskimo is who kind 0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:56.440 of brings you back. Right. So she comes up to me, 0:40:56.520 --> 0:41:01.160 a very dear friend and says, so you got some time? Now, 0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:05.560 how's that? How's that doing? How's that going for you? Thank? Yeah? Here, 0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:07.560 you haven't gone to any other meetings? How's that gonna 0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:10.479 worry you? And I'm like, I'm fine, I'm doing great, 0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:14.560 I'm wonderful, terrific. Well, if you ever want to, you know, 0:41:14.680 --> 0:41:20.040 you can call me. And my prideful ass waited thirty days. Okay, 0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:23.359 so I did not have to walk in New Okay. 0:41:24.360 --> 0:41:28.000 Was walking anew that tough for my ass? Okay? 0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:31.319 Yeah, it was because I still wasn't ready to Now 0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:35.480 I would. I would never suggest hello, if you're struggling, 0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:40.040 please just get some help please. And I'm a'm eight 0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:40.879 year staff now. 0:41:41.400 --> 0:41:45.840 Wow, Congress, thank you, Congret, thank you for coming back. 0:41:46.080 --> 0:41:46.480 Thank you. 0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:50.120 Now we have Rhyme and Pokemon. We had a lot more, 0:41:50.200 --> 0:41:52.360 but you know, we got a lot. We got a 0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:55.560 lot to look forward to it and I got a 0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:56.280 new frame. 0:41:57.320 --> 0:41:58.680 But life, that's man. 0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:00.200 I would to now learn, you know what, when I 0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:03.759 got the recipe for a Jewish spaghetti and Jewish meatballs. 0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:11.880 I was like, Jewish spaghetti, yes, there is jewishballs. 0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:14.920 There we go. So I can't say that that like 0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:19.719 this was like my my jelly, my jelly, you know, sandwich. 0:42:20.480 --> 0:42:24.400 But it means so much because this was what I 0:42:24.520 --> 0:42:28.240 could do. This was pretty much all I could bring 0:42:28.320 --> 0:42:35.640 myself to make because it still smelled like my mam 0:42:35.760 --> 0:42:41.840 was home who and it was something that my baby's loves, 0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:47.560 and it was something I knew how to do. So 0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:48.359 that's what I made. 0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:52.320 We're gonna end It's gonna be my new favorite dish. 0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:53.160 I hope it is. 0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:02.520 So what's the deal with the oil? You have to 0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:05.560 put a lot and then you put a lot. 0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:08.240 Crying meat balls. 0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:10.279 I've never made meatballs in my life. 0:43:10.360 --> 0:43:10.760 Crazy? 0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:11.560 Are they terrible? 0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:14.279 People? Hate? They're terrible people. You're gonna hate them. They're 0:43:14.280 --> 0:43:14.879 gonna hate them. 0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:17.040 Use the tight ones. Everyone likes the tight ones. 0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:17.759 Make little one. 0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:19.680 I always give the big ones. 0:43:19.960 --> 0:43:23.640 Make the little ones because they cook faster. And these 0:43:23.680 --> 0:43:25.560 gloves are really hard and I'm so ready to take 0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:27.400 them off. Sorry, please take them off. 0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:30.359 You could take them off. Just don't touch your hair. 0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:34.360 I want it's gonna be that awkward, like, hey, you got. 0:43:35.280 --> 0:43:36.799 Kill me, they would kill me. 0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:40.120 That is your hair naturally curly? Is it like mine? 0:43:40.160 --> 0:43:41.000 My hair is like yours? 0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:41.520 Okay? 0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:41.759 Cool? 0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:43.920 I was just curious, all right. 0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:45.200 How's my hair not like yours? 0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:46.920 I'lly I always gotta ask. 0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:49.840 Yeah, yeah, just thick. 0:43:50.160 --> 0:43:51.600 Yeah, it's actually. 0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:55.920 You're real thick. I'm unbelievable. So that's thank you. 0:43:56.040 --> 0:44:00.560 Kimming like, okay, so you're frying these and you're making 0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:02.920 you do you have to take off your rings? Are 0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:03.239 you good? 0:44:03.239 --> 0:44:04.680 I don't take off my ring? Oh god? 0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:07.480 Okay, so okay, so cast me up. Okay. So we 0:44:07.600 --> 0:44:10.200 went through one hell of a journey with you. Thank 0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:13.840 you for all the transparency. Now you're going through the 0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:17.120 detas and everything your career. You're still managing to hold 0:44:17.200 --> 0:44:20.280 up a really good career and you're making this money, 0:44:20.320 --> 0:44:23.440 but your ex is still helping out make it short 0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:27.400 at So is your career like, make it enough to 0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:29.920 pay for everything? What's going on during that whole period? 0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:32.600 Well, I don't know how to. I still don't know 0:44:32.640 --> 0:44:33.840 how to handle my money. 0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:36.279 Though, Okay, So, and then is the addiction sucking up 0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:37.239 some of that money too? 0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:40.560 Oh, the addiction. Well, you know, we all do what 0:44:40.640 --> 0:44:45.840 we do to survive and try to use our addiction 0:44:45.960 --> 0:44:48.640 money to just take care of our addiction. So that 0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:50.959 might mean, you know, I don't know, you might start 0:44:51.000 --> 0:44:56.279 your own secondary business to keep that afloat. You might 0:44:56.560 --> 0:44:58.319 I don't know, you might have wait in the car 0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:00.759 or something so you don't have to worry about you. 0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:02.160 You are beyond real. 0:45:02.400 --> 0:45:05.600 We might do some of the You might start a 0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:09.320 pizza delivery service. I mean, I don't know you so 0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:14.719 oh but no, but actor as actor and nightlife is nightlife. 0:45:15.480 --> 0:45:17.280 That's what happens to some folks. 0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:19.600 So when did you end up learning about how to 0:45:19.640 --> 0:45:21.040 take care of the bills and stuff? 0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:25.800 I was with my agency that I loved, and I 0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:28.279 again another guide shot by the grace of God. I 0:45:28.400 --> 0:45:32.200 ran into my agent, Portia Scott, my current agent and 0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:34.919 business partner. Hi Porscha, I love you so very much, 0:45:35.680 --> 0:45:39.120 and I had already booked Missus Pancakes on Rick and Morty, 0:45:39.719 --> 0:45:42.799 and more needed to be going on because again she 0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:46.279 was the only black female character. You know, I've been 0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:51.080 these black female iconic characters and nothing was being done 0:45:51.080 --> 0:45:54.880 with them. And I loved my agency but the animation 0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:59.239 department just didn't do what could have been done because 0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:02.840 I don't think they got it. Portion I had to talk, 0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:07.239 and I decided to leave my agency and I go 0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:11.600 over to Portia. Wow, a black agent, a black female 0:46:11.640 --> 0:46:15.080 agent that had her finger on the pulse. And when 0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:18.640 that happened, life changed, and we've been together ever since. 0:46:19.400 --> 0:46:24.399 I created my own acting technique because even before all 0:46:24.480 --> 0:46:27.120 that happened, I started coaching. 0:46:27.400 --> 0:46:29.839 This stuff is popping, but you sound like a pro 0:46:29.920 --> 0:46:30.400 in a kitchen. 0:46:30.400 --> 0:46:30.719 You're good. 0:46:30.840 --> 0:46:33.080 You're not even flinching. I'm over here praying. 0:46:34.160 --> 0:46:38.360 Girl, Come on now. I created my I started coaching actors. 0:46:38.560 --> 0:46:42.000 I started coaching animation and commercial a while before that 0:46:42.239 --> 0:46:45.680 with the casting director and because my mother always said 0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:49.080 those who can't do teach, and a casting director said, 0:46:49.239 --> 0:46:50.879 you know, we'd like you to start coaching for us. 0:46:50.880 --> 0:46:53.520 And I came home, was over. She's like, not you, 0:46:54.480 --> 0:46:57.400 not you? And I so I started coaching and I 0:46:57.440 --> 0:47:00.880 realized I was a great director. How could I not 0:47:00.960 --> 0:47:03.759 be doing this my whole life? Yeah, And then it 0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:06.239 turned into this weird cult like people just wanted to 0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:08.840 keep working with me. And I told my mother I 0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:11.440 wanted to start a company and call it the Darchy 0:47:11.440 --> 0:47:15.480 Emingite Company because I'm that girl. And she was like, Malik, 0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:17.799 your name is Malik Burger. You're gonna make reels. You're 0:47:17.800 --> 0:47:21.759 gonna call it Burger's Reels. Duh. So I did that 0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:26.439 and I wound up starting something. She's here, she's here, 0:47:26.480 --> 0:47:29.960 she likes you. So so I started Burger's Reels and 0:47:30.239 --> 0:47:35.680 I became the first black female to produce and direct 0:47:36.000 --> 0:47:41.160 animation and commercial demos. And then I created my technique, 0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:43.479 art of the pivot, the art. 0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:46.000 Of the pivot. 0:47:46.320 --> 0:47:48.880 So when I started reading over your stuff today, I 0:47:48.920 --> 0:47:52.520 was like, pivot. Oh, this is it. And because I 0:47:52.560 --> 0:47:55.040 have so much training, and I just took all the 0:47:55.080 --> 0:47:59.240 Meisner and Stanislavsky and Uda Hagen and everything I've studied 0:47:59.680 --> 0:48:02.680 and started teaching beyond of the pivot. 0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:05.440 So now, how how can people sign up to get 0:48:05.440 --> 0:48:06.360 those classes and all that? 0:48:06.440 --> 0:48:09.520 You could go look me up Malik Berger dot com 0:48:09.640 --> 0:48:14.239 or Burger's Reels la dot com or is it yeah, 0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:18.440 okay it is and not do that. That's what I do. Come, 0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:21.200 but you need you know, this is the thing about voiceover. 0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:24.520 It doesn't have ship to do with your voice acting. 0:48:24.960 --> 0:48:28.239 This is acting acting first voice seconds and now so 0:48:28.320 --> 0:48:30.920 people think you need to make funny voices and blah 0:48:30.960 --> 0:48:32.320 blah blah, be an actor. 0:48:33.800 --> 0:48:36.520 That's now. You were so good because you started as 0:48:36.560 --> 0:48:39.879 an actor, So you're really an actress with that's it. 0:48:40.000 --> 0:48:43.840 Oh, you're an actor and voiceover is the truest form 0:48:43.920 --> 0:48:44.520 of acting. 0:48:45.320 --> 0:48:47.920 Why do you say that because you got you don't have. 0:48:47.920 --> 0:48:51.200 A set, you don't have props, you don't have someone 0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:55.279 you're working with. This is this is the Greek chorus. 0:48:55.760 --> 0:48:57.240 They had masks on their face. 0:48:57.320 --> 0:49:00.359 Baby, wow, this is a thing. 0:49:00.760 --> 0:49:04.719 This is this is your mind. So people don't think 0:49:04.719 --> 0:49:07.040 about that, do that? No, these are my glasses and 0:49:07.160 --> 0:49:11.000 not their hair. But yeah, that's very important because you know, 0:49:11.200 --> 0:49:12.799 I hear people all the time they go. 0:49:13.160 --> 0:49:15.480 You know, people think that I had to really good 0:49:15.960 --> 0:49:17.600 for right, and they. 0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:23.480 Was, no, honey, take it an acting class. 0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:25.080 Because you have to be so many different characters. 0:49:25.160 --> 0:49:25.319 Right. 0:49:25.400 --> 0:49:27.920 So if it if it's just a voice for for 0:49:27.920 --> 0:49:30.399 for you have a good voice, that doesn't make sense. 0:49:30.440 --> 0:49:32.840 Why are you opening your mouth? What's your moment before? 0:49:33.360 --> 0:49:35.680 Who are you talking to? Where are you when you're 0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:38.640 talking to them? What are you talking about? What's the 0:49:38.640 --> 0:49:39.799 beginning in the middle of the end. 0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:43.560 I actually think about that sometimes when I'm watching a movie, like, 0:49:44.040 --> 0:49:46.399 I'm like, man, they had to really get into that, 0:49:47.320 --> 0:49:50.360 like mentally, you had to picture yourself there to really 0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:54.480 pull it off. Right. So when you're recording now, I 0:49:54.560 --> 0:49:57.759 want to get into the business side. So when you're 0:49:59.000 --> 0:50:04.080 we're gonna we're gonna call uh, we're gonna call a cut. Damn, guys, 0:50:04.239 --> 0:50:08.280 can you could just well, I'll help you pause commercial break. 0:50:08.480 --> 0:50:11.400 She needs to wash her hands. So we're mixing the 0:50:11.440 --> 0:50:15.120 spaghetti noodles and the sauce. So take me up to 0:50:15.200 --> 0:50:18.799 right now where you're at in your life career. Right now, 0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:22.040 you have a huge hit. Right now, Pokemon, we know 0:50:22.160 --> 0:50:24.640 successfully you are where you are. I don't think you 0:50:24.719 --> 0:50:27.600 quite answered the question about who ended up teaching you 0:50:27.640 --> 0:50:30.000 about how to manage money. I know your agent ended 0:50:30.040 --> 0:50:31.480 up in the picture, but you didn't tell me. 0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:36.200 Like Portia Scott ended up, you know, waking me up 0:50:36.440 --> 0:50:40.000 and saying, listen, you got too much, you're too good, 0:50:40.560 --> 0:50:42.799 let's get let's get it together. And I opened my 0:50:42.840 --> 0:50:46.600 own business and then I felt, you know it truly 0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:48.800 was my duty to be of service to other actors. 0:50:49.080 --> 0:50:52.600 So I started directing and coaching, and then I realized 0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:56.720 I had a huge gift of making demos and teaching 0:50:56.760 --> 0:50:58.800 the truth. Then I developed the art of the pivot. 0:50:59.239 --> 0:51:02.279 Out of the Pivot is also the sister to Porsche's Method, 0:51:02.360 --> 0:51:05.680 which is method on the mic and the actor's toolkit. 0:51:06.480 --> 0:51:10.759 And we just have a beautiful, beautiful business teaching other 0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:12.880 actors and trying to get Like, if you wanted to 0:51:12.920 --> 0:51:16.080 be a dentist, right and you went to dental school, 0:51:16.600 --> 0:51:21.080 you'd be able to leave and actually start an office. 0:51:21.360 --> 0:51:24.920 In this situation, you can't leave a university and have 0:51:24.960 --> 0:51:28.160 a degree and voiceover. It doesn't exist, and we don't 0:51:28.160 --> 0:51:31.080 think that's right. So we're fighting for that. And then 0:51:31.120 --> 0:51:35.560 I have the most brilliant PR manager with Shannon Shannon 0:51:35.640 --> 0:51:41.520 Barnes Strategic. We love you, We love you, And now 0:51:41.560 --> 0:51:44.560 I'm just trying to spread spread the word. Now this 0:51:44.680 --> 0:51:46.840 is a little small, so what I'm going to do 0:51:46.960 --> 0:51:49.759 is the old trick. I'm going to take this and 0:51:49.840 --> 0:51:52.160 I'm gonna do the old I was almost going to 0:51:52.200 --> 0:51:53.920 do a different recipe for you, which I would have 0:51:53.920 --> 0:51:56.719 had to have done this and get everything over on 0:51:56.760 --> 0:52:00.799 the plate. We're gonna hopefully well do it different when 0:52:00.800 --> 0:52:03.640 we tape this from my house on our phones. But 0:52:04.160 --> 0:52:09.520 now you'll see that doesn't have to be pretty. Okay, 0:52:10.320 --> 0:52:12.920 does not have to be pretty, but at least you're 0:52:13.000 --> 0:52:17.400 seeing that everything is mixed up, and it's that butter 0:52:18.160 --> 0:52:23.960 that's going to stick everything together. I like mine saucy, 0:52:25.520 --> 0:52:29.440 my grandmother. I'm gonna take this other plate my grandmother, 0:52:29.760 --> 0:52:32.719 and it's had. It's fine, don't worry about it, my grandmother, 0:52:32.800 --> 0:52:37.440 and then they liked it. A little dryer may serve you, 0:52:37.640 --> 0:52:47.000 Madame del And this is just thank you. So again, 0:52:47.160 --> 0:52:51.400 this not only has no that's another thing. There's no 0:52:51.480 --> 0:52:54.360 cheese on it, but it's Jewish. It's no, it's not 0:52:54.440 --> 0:52:57.960 I'm not kosher. It's not kosher. It's funny because I 0:52:58.000 --> 0:53:01.640 guess I guess you don't worry. We're gonna we're gonna 0:53:01.640 --> 0:53:09.880 teach you more about your Judaism. But please enjoy, Please enjoy, 0:53:10.040 --> 0:53:12.120 and tell me what it's like with turkey, because that 0:53:12.480 --> 0:53:15.120 sounds really fun to me. So I'm not going to 0:53:15.200 --> 0:53:18.000 say it was what did you What was it like 0:53:18.040 --> 0:53:21.600 when you were broke? What I will say, this meal 0:53:21.680 --> 0:53:25.960 to me signifies what I could do in honor of 0:53:26.040 --> 0:53:29.680 my mother, and in honor of a time when I 0:53:29.800 --> 0:53:33.239 wasn't all myself, and now I can make it with 0:53:33.320 --> 0:53:36.959 a lot more pride. I love that because it's really 0:53:37.040 --> 0:53:39.840 nice to be alive and around. 0:53:40.640 --> 0:53:44.040 Yes, and I'm very happy and thankful that you alive, 0:53:44.120 --> 0:53:47.400 around and back. Yeah, we're going to try this. 0:53:47.320 --> 0:53:54.839 Do it well. 0:53:55.040 --> 0:54:00.239 She loves me, I like to the people. Is that 0:54:00.320 --> 0:54:02.719 the masa meal, the masa oil? 0:54:06.120 --> 0:54:08.279 So my new best friend of me here, guys, look 0:54:08.320 --> 0:54:08.480 at this. 0:54:09.239 --> 0:54:09.560 Mhm. 0:54:10.920 --> 0:54:16.560 There was the sweet with the salty, right, and then 0:54:16.600 --> 0:54:17.160 if you the. 0:54:17.080 --> 0:54:19.680 Tomato paste makes sense now, right, And then if. 0:54:19.640 --> 0:54:21.880 You can get it all in one bite, then you 0:54:21.920 --> 0:54:25.919 see there's a crunch from the onion. Still oh right, 0:54:26.640 --> 0:54:30.279 but it's not it's not nasty onion. It's still been. 0:54:32.400 --> 0:54:33.759 I really like the onion in it. 0:54:33.960 --> 0:54:34.359 Mm hmm. 0:54:35.160 --> 0:54:37.440 I really like the onion. And I was trying to 0:54:37.440 --> 0:54:40.560 give you very little onions. You don't know this, but throughout, 0:54:40.600 --> 0:54:43.480 like I think you had two onions. I cut up 0:54:43.480 --> 0:54:45.759 half an onion, and then you came back it was 0:54:45.760 --> 0:54:46.680 like that's not enough onion. 0:54:46.719 --> 0:54:49.200 I was like, oh, ship, what's your thing with onions? 0:54:49.680 --> 0:54:51.880 You have to slice them really thin. That's what I 0:54:51.880 --> 0:54:53.279 think the secret is, you know, when they have the 0:54:53.320 --> 0:54:55.640 big old chunks, you can't do that. 0:54:56.200 --> 0:54:59.640 But did you get a bite with both? Now? Hmm? 0:55:00.800 --> 0:55:03.480 Did you gotta buy it with both? What do you think? 0:55:04.000 --> 0:55:06.719 I love it so Jewish spaghetti and. 0:55:07.000 --> 0:55:13.040 Jewish spaghetti Sambi balls definitely a good one. I would 0:55:13.120 --> 0:55:14.320 maybe add some cheese. 0:55:14.719 --> 0:55:15.600 You totally can. 0:55:15.920 --> 0:55:18.720 I would maybe add some cheese. But I can also 0:55:18.760 --> 0:55:20.799 see that the paste actually helps for all of you 0:55:20.800 --> 0:55:22.799 guys that don't try to opt out for the paste. 0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:25.359 I think the paste helps. Gluid is the paste that's glued. 0:55:25.440 --> 0:55:26.360 I think it's the paste. 0:55:26.960 --> 0:55:28.960 And then there's you know, there's a lot of butter 0:55:28.960 --> 0:55:32.000 in here because I like it and it tastes good, 0:55:33.239 --> 0:55:34.359 and that's why they make it. 0:55:35.400 --> 0:55:37.279 When you cook all your onions at home, you use butter. 0:55:38.600 --> 0:55:40.800 You and I it just butter. Let me tell you something, 0:55:41.080 --> 0:55:41.839 butter me. 0:55:43.160 --> 0:55:43.680 You know all that. 0:55:44.200 --> 0:55:46.640 Sister, we are sisters. 0:55:46.800 --> 0:55:49.160 Oh wait, we didn't in our cutdamn. We have to 0:55:49.239 --> 0:55:53.440 drink the c yes, the pre hugof in shall my love. 0:55:59.120 --> 0:56:03.160 Thank you so much for I mean, these two go 0:56:03.280 --> 0:56:04.960 together really well. 0:56:04.920 --> 0:56:06.800 Like Shamalama Lama lamading. 0:56:06.680 --> 0:56:09.719 Real, they really do go together like. 0:56:09.719 --> 0:56:12.240 Shoe Bop Showaddy Waddy Hippie Dippy Dip. 0:56:13.960 --> 0:56:19.279 From now So I got eating because it's a food show. 0:56:19.400 --> 0:56:21.600 It's a food show. People actually get irritated by that. 0:56:22.840 --> 0:56:26.000 But why she's smacking so much the game? It's a 0:56:26.000 --> 0:56:28.239 food show. You don't listen to eating while broke. I 0:56:28.280 --> 0:56:33.040 expect to hear some smacking. Now you are stable, I 0:56:33.040 --> 0:56:36.919 don't imagine what was like a little under I would 0:56:36.920 --> 0:56:40.560 say I'm God at three. So you're definitely like almost 0:56:40.600 --> 0:56:41.560 fifty years in the. 0:56:41.520 --> 0:56:43.960 Game, fifty two fifty two years ago. 0:56:44.280 --> 0:56:47.080 So yeah, I thought, you don't look at it. You 0:56:47.120 --> 0:56:47.960 don't look at it all. 0:56:48.040 --> 0:56:50.800 But it's the scare of dealing nice sleep without Manchester. 0:56:52.280 --> 0:56:55.640 And then you wait, you also remarried. We didn't cover that. 0:56:55.880 --> 0:56:59.359 Yes, I remarried Jay Robertson from Mertha to Bill. Let's 0:56:59.400 --> 0:57:04.120 hear it for whales, yay Wales, and just really quick. 0:57:04.400 --> 0:57:07.320 During the pandemic, it was very easy to start ordering 0:57:07.360 --> 0:57:14.800 things online. So I ordered a trans man from Whales, Yes, 0:57:14.840 --> 0:57:16.760 and he showed up at the doorstep and I was like, great, 0:57:16.920 --> 0:57:17.480 I'll take it. 0:57:17.560 --> 0:57:18.600 So transman is. 0:57:19.280 --> 0:57:22.480 Female to male, female female to male, and I've got 0:57:22.520 --> 0:57:24.919 to tell you Jay if you're watching, which you will be. 0:57:25.040 --> 0:57:27.560 I love you so much, baby, by the love of 0:57:27.560 --> 0:57:30.040 my life. And thank you. 0:57:30.040 --> 0:57:32.400 No, I'm I don't know why. 0:57:32.440 --> 0:57:34.040 I don't know why you're covering your mouth like I 0:57:34.040 --> 0:57:35.360 haven't seen you eat already? 0:57:35.640 --> 0:57:36.120 Girl? 0:57:35.960 --> 0:57:36.800 To what what you. 0:57:38.280 --> 0:57:38.840 And I eating? 0:57:38.960 --> 0:57:42.240 Like you feel better? You're cute? I really cute. 0:57:42.760 --> 0:57:45.440 You should be because so your ex husband and everybody 0:57:45.440 --> 0:57:46.080 gets along great? 0:57:46.200 --> 0:57:48.080 Sure do they should do? 0:57:48.280 --> 0:57:49.920 That was beautiful and I think that's really great for 0:57:49.960 --> 0:57:50.440 your sons. 0:57:50.600 --> 0:57:51.560 It absolutely is. 0:57:52.120 --> 0:57:55.320 Absolutely What advice would you give to someone trying to 0:57:55.320 --> 0:57:56.240 get into this game? 0:57:56.560 --> 0:58:01.840 Biggest advice go into the Voice Over Reese Guide. Can 0:58:01.880 --> 0:58:04.200 I look there? And I really tell you the Voiceover 0:58:04.280 --> 0:58:08.000 Resource Guide. The BORG is something that you can find online. 0:58:08.560 --> 0:58:11.919 You can look under NAVA, which is the National Association 0:58:12.040 --> 0:58:16.280 of Voiceover Artists. Do not fall into a trap where 0:58:16.320 --> 0:58:19.400 someone is going to offer you something where you spend 0:58:19.520 --> 0:58:22.880 money to become a star able. I can teach you 0:58:23.000 --> 0:58:26.600 this in two weeks. No, study your craft and work 0:58:26.640 --> 0:58:31.400 with reputable people, people who are in this industry. This 0:58:31.480 --> 0:58:34.480 is a very easy business to get into and get robbed. 0:58:34.680 --> 0:58:38.440 Please do not do that. Learn to be an actor 0:58:38.880 --> 0:58:41.200 this is a craft and it is not going to 0:58:41.200 --> 0:58:45.480 happen overnight, so please save yourself a heartache. Work with 0:58:45.520 --> 0:58:46.080 real people. 0:58:46.840 --> 0:58:50.280 Yes, and then where can they go to Malik Burger School. 0:58:51.200 --> 0:58:53.560 You can check me out at Burger's Reels b E 0:58:53.720 --> 0:58:58.720 r g e R sreels dot com or go over 0:58:58.800 --> 0:59:01.240 to Malikburger dot com. You could see what else is 0:59:01.280 --> 0:59:04.640 going on with me. Please check me out on Pokemon Horizons. 0:59:06.040 --> 0:59:08.840 I want to say, yeah, season two airing now on Netflix. 0:59:09.160 --> 0:59:11.800 I am the character rhyme and there's a whole bunch 0:59:11.840 --> 0:59:14.240 of lot of stuff coming up too, so hopefully I 0:59:14.280 --> 0:59:15.919 will be seeing you at Como Con soon. 0:59:16.520 --> 0:59:18.000 And do you have socials? Are you doing? 0:59:18.080 --> 0:59:18.840 I'm on all kinds. 0:59:18.880 --> 0:59:22.360 It's just Milie Berger, okay, perfect. 0:59:22.320 --> 0:59:24.640 No, just and it's b e r g e R. 0:59:24.680 --> 0:59:27.120 That's where everybody messes up. M E l i q 0:59:27.360 --> 0:59:30.400 U E b E r g e R. I'm also 0:59:30.440 --> 0:59:31.560 this one's best friend, so. 0:59:31.840 --> 0:59:33.760 Yeah, you guys, just slide in the d MS. I'll 0:59:33.760 --> 0:59:36.760 tell you how great she is. But thank you, guys, 0:59:36.800 --> 0:59:40.000 thank you so much for feeding me and opening up 0:59:40.000 --> 0:59:43.520 and telling your whole story. And you were write this story. 0:59:43.600 --> 0:59:46.440 I definitely am like in love, love love, love you. 0:59:46.800 --> 0:59:48.480 Thank you, you know, and I can't wait to meet 0:59:48.480 --> 0:59:49.280 the family. 0:59:48.960 --> 0:59:51.040 You're meeting everybody, So to me, I just wanted to 0:59:51.040 --> 0:59:54.000 tell you thank you. I might not have been broke, 0:59:54.400 --> 0:59:56.720 but I was broken, So. 0:59:56.760 --> 1:00:00.680 This was perfect. I think. I think you you really 1:00:00.720 --> 1:00:03.960 understood the concept of the show. And one thing I 1:00:04.040 --> 1:00:07.240 tell people, like, if you were middle class, if you 1:00:07.320 --> 1:00:10.760 were rich, or your family was successful, do not hide 1:00:10.800 --> 1:00:13.880 your story because the road to success, as you see 1:00:13.880 --> 1:00:17.120 with Malik, is never straight. It's a roller coaster. Right, 1:00:17.680 --> 1:00:21.200 Malik went through a lot, she did. She was exposed 1:00:21.200 --> 1:00:24.080 to success. But even talking about financial, money management, or 1:00:24.120 --> 1:00:27.520 dealing with traumas and all that, and you know, hanging 1:00:27.560 --> 1:00:29.640 out with death. You know, even as fine as she 1:00:29.960 --> 1:00:33.480 was fine, you know, she can't us with us, you know. 1:00:33.640 --> 1:00:36.680 So shout outs to you and definitely thank you, and 1:00:36.760 --> 1:00:38.400 we all can say thank you for keeping it one 1:00:38.440 --> 1:00:39.280 hundred percent real. 1:00:39.440 --> 1:00:41.080 Thank you, Thank you Malik. 1:00:41.200 --> 1:00:43.760 Peace out, guys, peace. 1:00:45.440 --> 1:00:47.120 Mel blank And he did all these. 1:00:49.560 --> 1:00:53.880 Johnny Carson unbelievable day dunk. The question is was he 1:00:53.960 --> 1:00:55.000 an inspiration for him? 1:00:55.040 --> 1:00:55.680 Absolutely? 1:00:55.800 --> 1:00:59.160 Oh damn, you should have texted me that one. Why 1:00:59.200 --> 1:00:59.960 do you think he did. 1:01:01.440 --> 1:01:04.880 Over industry. I think that he is the original of 1:01:04.960 --> 1:01:07.160 you can do anything you set your mind to do, 1:01:07.320 --> 1:01:10.640 because who took over is a man named Bob Bergen. 1:01:11.080 --> 1:01:14.920 And Bob Bergen's dream was to be Porky Pig. And 1:01:14.960 --> 1:01:17.720 this was a young Jewish guy from Middle America that 1:01:17.920 --> 1:01:20.360 moved out here when he was fifteen years old, and 1:01:20.400 --> 1:01:25.480 he is now the voice of Porky Pig, Daffy Duck, Bugs, Bunny. 1:01:25.720 --> 1:01:28.040 And he did it, so talk a little bit about 1:01:28.080 --> 1:01:31.040 mel blank, what it melt blank? A Jewish guy that 1:01:31.080 --> 1:01:33.880 got up and made it, made the voices and made 1:01:33.960 --> 1:01:36.960 room for us to do it. That's what he did. 1:01:37.080 --> 1:01:39.640 He did every Let me just say something right now, 1:01:39.640 --> 1:01:43.640 we gonna keep keep this edit not the educational dead moment, 1:01:43.680 --> 1:01:47.120 but keep my dad askn't a really good question in 1:01:47.200 --> 1:01:54.640 the episode. For more eating while Broke from iHeartRadio and 1:01:54.680 --> 1:01:58.440 The Black Effects, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or 1:01:58.440 --> 1:02:00.360 wherever you listen to your favorite Jos