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Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Coleen Went and today we have very

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Speaker 1: very special guests. Berger is in the building and I

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Speaker 1: keep having I think I'm so focused on your voiceover

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Speaker 1: talents that I'm like starting to funel my words because

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Speaker 1: I really want to hear rhyme from Pokemon on the mic.

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Speaker 3: Oh please, stuff, now listen. You gotta just think within yourself,

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Speaker 3: be yourself, be Judy yourself, baby girl.

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Speaker 1: I love this. What can you do? More voiceovers too?

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Speaker 1: Since I have you, I'm gonna take you.

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Speaker 3: I do this.

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Speaker 1: I was like, if a singer is sitting here, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: you gonna sing me my one on one concert right now.

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Speaker 3: I'm enjoy this, enjoy well. First of all, let me

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Speaker 3: tell you something you don't know me. So we got

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Speaker 3: a little missus Pancakes. Wow, I'm Ricky Morty. Wow. And

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Speaker 3: then there's there's just always my bubby, my Jewish bubby

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Speaker 3: so don't start with her. Wow. Ever, there's just so

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Speaker 3: there's always a cerebro from X Men, which welcome professor.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So, just so you guys know, you

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Speaker 1: Guys that is coming out on Netflix right now, is

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Speaker 3: She's and I want to say something even more. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm the first female black queer gym leader and trainer.

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Speaker 3: Now my character, I'm not going to classify her as queer,

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Speaker 3: So that that's that's a big deal. And for it

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Speaker 3: So oh, you're a catch. You down come to you that? OK,

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Speaker 3: it's just an honor. It's an honor, and you know,

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Speaker 3: you always just want to reach one other sister, one

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Speaker 3: My mom was a bohemian. I lived in a theater.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't I wasn't here yet.

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Speaker 1: That's how you know your voiceover work is platinum status

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Speaker 1: because I was like, you do that voice great sang? Okay,

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I will tell you the broke situation.

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Speaker 3: My mother was and is and will always be my life,

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Speaker 3: My Jewish grandparents said, we understand what we're going to do.

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Speaker 3: I told you, I told you, I told you so.

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Speaker 3: And that's another story because we'll get into she's my

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Speaker 3: relationship Raine Pryor, who is my sister. Okay, and that's

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Speaker 3: We are eating Jewish spaghetti and hamburgers, which was my

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Speaker 3: doesn't have anything to do with me. I'm a lot

437
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 3: of what you do does not anything to do with me.

438
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 1: Okay, o.

439
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 3: Business.

440
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,360
Speaker 1: As I get older, I'm starting to get there. I'm

441
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: starting to be like, I'm going to do myself. Yeah,

442
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 1: I know who I am.

443
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 3: So there's that. And what it is is what it is,

444
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 3: what it is, what it is, you know what I'm saying.

445
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 3: So I say that because there was a reason I

446
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 3: was saying that.

447
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: So wait, wait, if you were if you are queer, sorry,

448
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: but you married a man? What what what was your

449
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 1: intention to marry him? Were you just in love or something?

450
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,679
Speaker 3: I fell in love. I fell in love. And that

451
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 3: goes back to the sobriety because I met one of

452
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 3: my first sponsors was black and Jewish and I'm also

453
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 3: a singer. So she said, okay, I'm gonna take you

454
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 3: to this church because they need singers. And I walked

455
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 3: into this little we went into it. It was like

456
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 3: an alley in Englewood. It was a garage and so funny,

457
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 3: and you know, I'm in my Fred Siegel's Best. If

458
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 3: you don't know Fred Siegel, everybody it was. It was

459
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 3: terribly expensive clothing still and Lauros and I had just

460
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 3: turned thirty. It was like two weeks in the thirty

461
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,160
Speaker 3: and I walked in. This brother was warming up his sacks,

462
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 3: and I was dressed terribly inappropriately to go to church.

463
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 3: Of course, because you know me, you already know me,

464
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 3: and I can.

465
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm visiting it.

466
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 3: I'm fierced. And you know I met I met Damon Renti,

467
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 3: and he was the original saxophonist of Atlantic Star and

468
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 3: de Barge and this and that and this and that.

469
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 3: I'm putting my hand in here right now.

470
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: I was just more concerned that she is not even

471
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 1: used in the Little Spring.

472
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 3: You gotta feel it. You gotta feel. You have to

473
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,360
Speaker 3: your onions, you gotta feel your salt. You what's going on?

474
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 1: Very fancy.

475
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 3: She's a fancy last, She's a fantasy live.

476
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 1: I've never in my life cooked and did that whole

477
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 1: spriggle thing, but I think I'm going to steal that

478
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 1: sprinkle on.

479
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 3: You gotta get your sprinkled and teach my daughter how

480
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 3: to do this, just even if you don't know how

481
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 3: to cook. Just do it. Do that.

482
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: So you walk into the walk into the.

483
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 3: Church and and it's on because he's warming up his sacks,

484
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 3: and like, oh, that's what I'm going to marry. Also

485
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 3: without having a dad. You know, I knew that this

486
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 3: was He's fifteen years my senior, and I wanted to

487
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 3: have children, and I said, oh, this is going to

488
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 3: be safe. And I needed safety because I had just

489
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 3: gotten sober and I knew I didn't want to be

490
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 3: who I was any longer. And that's what happened. And

491
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 3: we were together for quite some time, and we had

492
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 3: beautiful boys. Lys lyricsis shout out to seventy, shout out

493
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 3: to Negro Ku, Kooli Jackson and Julian and we did that.

494
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 3: We you know, we did this thing. We made a

495
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 3: beautiful album together and we're still. That's one of my

496
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 3: best friends. Man, that's that's one of my best friends.

497
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: So you meet him, meet.

498
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 3: Ministry two thousand.

499
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: Ministry two thousand, and then does Sobriety end up creeping

500
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 1: in there?

501
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 3: Nope, stayed Sobriety stayed good. But him and my mom

502
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 3: were like oil and water.

503
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 1: Okay, there was that because.

504
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 3: First of all, my mom was tough from Brooklyn five

505
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 3: feet tall.

506
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 1: Wait it was he he's black? Yes, okay, okay, got.

507
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 3: It, got it. And but we all lived together because

508
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 3: my mom had just what does it call when you

509
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 3: leave your job because you retire?

510
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: That's it?

511
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 3: Okay, And you don't separate me from my mom.

512
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just don't package steel.

513
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 3: We're a package steel. But all in all, oh, pepper,

514
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 3: pepper gone. All in all, we had two beautiful babies.

515
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,479
Speaker 3: And I say that because in this he did support

516
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 3: my sobriety so much and I was able to stay sober.

517
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 3: But when we had started parting our ways, I did

518
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 3: find out that my mom was very sick, and it

519
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 3: happened very quickly. My mom had gout and after we separated,

520
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 3: they had given my mom a medication that woke up

521
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 3: the pepsi and within three years my mom was gone.

522
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:54,959
Speaker 2: Wow.

523
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 3: So I didn't have the upbringing as many folks do.

524
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 3: When you're in my industry. This is what you do

525
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 3: with your money, this is how my mom handled everything.

526
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 3: And even in marriage, my mom still handled all of

527
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 3: my because she was my ancient and a manager, my

528
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 3: business manager.

529
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: So and were you and your husband at the time

530
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: doing really well?

531
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 3: Or we were we were fine, but everything was separate.

532
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 1: Everything was separate.

533
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 3: So she was most definitely So I didn't know how

534
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 3: to pay a bill or right. I knew how to

535
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 3: write a check, but you know, I didn't know how

536
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 3: to take care of myself. And I had my two boys,

537
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 3: and you know we lived the life of Riley m Well,

538
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 3: that's not realistic. I then found out the hard way,

539
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 3: so like when they turned the lights off at the

540
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 3: condo that we got, and when I didn't know how

541
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 3: to go shopping and I didn't know that you needed

542
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,959
Speaker 3: like quarters and stuff when you didn't have a washing machine.

543
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 3: The night of my mom's memorial, I just said, well, Fitt,

544
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 3: call the dude, and I was out. You know, within

545
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 3: minutes of my mom passing, I took, well, you know

546
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 3: you're going to call someone when you're gonna start using drinking.

547
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 3: So while my mom was dying, I packed it in

548
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 3: and gave up fourteen years of sobriety.

549
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 1: Fourteen years, my goodness, fourteen years. You wasn't lying when

550
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: you said this story was how was that?

551
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 3: Now was that? And at that time I want to

552
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 3: say that Jackson and Julian were oh no, oh tomato

553
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 3: paste tomato paste, So you want to get the tomato

554
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 3: paste into the butter, into the onions first because you

555
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 3: want to melt it down. And this is one small

556
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 3: can of tomato paste. Yeah, I'm gonna put this here.

557
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 1: Do whatever you want.

558
00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 3: Everything, Thank you. Everything's going together and.

559
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: This story is so good. Every time you step and

560
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: now it's agree.

561
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 3: It's just all there, we go, there, we go.

562
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: Okay, So you so you had I'm just curious, genuinely,

563
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: like emotionally, how did you feel on the inside when

564
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: you like just said goodbye to fourteen years of sobriety

565
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: because that had to have been a tough pill.

566
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 3: I felt nothing because I lost my mother and I

567
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 3: was not prepared and I didn't want to be here

568
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 3: anymore because I didn't know how to survive without her,

569
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 3: because we didn't have a plan for that. And I

570
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 3: was very angry with God and I I didn't know

571
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 3: what to do with my babies, and I even asked

572
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 3: him to take them. I didn't know what to do.

573
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 3: And Jack and Julian are eighteen months apart, an aquarius

574
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 3: and a cancer. They are anointed angelic. They're everything good

575
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 3: about me. And I did not deserved to be their

576
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 3: mother as far as I was concerned, Tomato sauce. I

577
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 3: lost it. I lost it.

578
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: So how long were you in the I lost it mode?

579
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 3: Three years? Three years, three years.

580
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: You're so strong, it's so powerful right now, it's crazy

581
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: to imagine that three years.

582
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did some research for three years, and for

583
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 3: three years, these young men grew up. These young men.

584
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: Grew How old were they at the time, I'm sorry

585
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: to be.

586
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 3: They were in third So it started third and fifth

587
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 3: grade into oh no, no, no, no, it was middle school.

588
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 3: They were middle school getting ready like Jack. At the

589
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 3: end of it, Jack was just starting high school. You

590
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 3: eated his first year ninth grade. I signed him up

591
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 3: for ninth grade with a big gulplovodka and in my

592
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 3: hand and in uber.

593
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: Oh, you were in it.

594
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 3: I was in it. Okay, I was in it. And

595
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 3: I was, you know, leaving notes with money for pizza

596
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 3: hut and still going to my auditions, you know, still

597
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 3: doing my thing, still working.

598
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: At this point, who's managing your money while you're in

599
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: this kind of you're stuck in it.

600
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just straight thugging.

601
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: Did your ex take full Well he wasn't. Really, it

602
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like he was saying, full responsibility of the kids.

603
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 3: He did everything he could, like he'd see them on

604
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 3: the weekend. But what my ex did, and I you know,

605
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 3: God bless him for the rest of every day of

606
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 3: this life. He made sure that that rent was paid.

607
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 3: There was always a roof over our head. He was

608
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 3: doing their laundry, he was picking them up when he could.

609
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 3: There's food in the house. And that's when when my friends,

610
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 3: you know, we're gathering, you know, they were gathering. They

611
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 3: were No one didn't check in on those babies. Those

612
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 3: babies were never alone. But it was those babies that

613
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 3: checked in on me. And that's when Jackson and Julian

614
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:05,719
Speaker 3: grew up and they saved me, and they checked in

615
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 3: on you. Yes they did.

616
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: Are you comfortable getting into that, Yes i am.

617
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 3: I'm very very I'm truly blessed that I'm alive to

618
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 3: tell you the story. And when that happened, it was like,

619
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 3: what were they gonna do? You know, I don't have

620
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 3: There weren't many people they could have called. Now the

621
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 3: sauce as hopefully you see.

622
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: Is it looks good, it looks delicious. I'm hungry.

623
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 3: There we go, there we go. We're going to move

624
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 3: over to the Jewish hamburgers.

625
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: Now do you want to put this here?

626
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 3: Is that? Okay?

627
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,239
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure if we burned down the house, you

628
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: and I were doing it together, doing it together. And

629
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: by the way, I don't have real insurance. Hare shout

630
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: outs to the mall for not.

631
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 3: Knowing we're gonna you know what, we're actually gonna do

632
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 3: tape that we could put the sauce in here. Then okay, okay, great,

633
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 3: go back to the story. So they check it on me.

634
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 3: But you know it turned. I went to a place

635
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 3: where I was this is really you know that, this

636
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 3: is real, y'all because I was wearing a gown at

637
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 3: pastout time every night, with a full face of makeup.

638
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 3: So when they came in and saw me not here

639
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 3: any longer, at least they'd have a memory of a

640
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 3: beautiful mom oh my gosh, and they could say and

641
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 3: not be scared to say, doesn't mommy look beautiful. I

642
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 3: never wanted them to walk in if I wasn't here

643
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 3: any longer and be scared. I mean, that's when you've

644
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 3: really lost it. Yeah. So I had a spiritual awakening,

645
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 3: and since I had so much time and so much ego.

646
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 3: I decided that it was time to get clean, and

647
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 3: I called a friend and I said, I'm going to

648
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 3: DT or detox alone, because I had too much pride

649
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 3: to step into a meeting as a newcomer again.

650
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: Okay, oh yeah, because you've kind of you've been okay, okay,

651
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: you know, so you go, you go into detox by yourself.

652
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 3: Myself, I sweated out a dear friend that I'll always love.

653
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 3: We don't speak any longer, but she came to the house.

654
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 3: She made sure that the boys were okay. You know,

655
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 3: I was in the bends. I got through it, I went,

656
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 3: I did it, but I was still working as an actor.

657
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 3: I knew how to get there, do my job, get out.

658
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: Now did other people in the field know that you

659
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: were struggling with this problem?

660
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 3: Or I asked that really really well one job, not

661
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 3: so well? Every everybody else? Well, okay, real well, at

662
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 3: least I thought I did. And I was very skinny,

663
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 3: and I was a little green, a little of a

664
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: green haze. And you can laugh now, because tragedy pleus

665
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 3: comedy equals sign if it does. Yeah, but I held

666
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 3: it together best I could, and thank you so much.

667
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 3: And I need a little room. I'm gonna go, and

668
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 3: I did.

669
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: They're like watching a movie. When I say you ever

670
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: see a movie and they go to commercial, You're.

671
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 3: Like, fuck stop commercial all.

672
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: She put the bowl down, guys, let's put the meat

673
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: in there. Fast forward. I want to get to the

674
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: story just like you, guys.

675
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 3: So we're gonna take two eggs right now, full starters,

676
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 3: two eggs. And my very best friend said, listen, if

677
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 3: you don't get clean, I will leave your life. And

678
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 3: you've got to do it for the boys.

679
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: But this is after you did detox or before.

680
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 3: Right before she said, if you don't get clean, she

681
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 3: took me and my best friend is Welsh, as is

682
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 3: my new husband. She said, if you don't get you

683
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 3: have a new husband. We'll talk.

684
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. When I saying I like this story.

685
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 3: I'm like my husband funny enough is trans I'm from Wales,

686
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 3: so I got, we got. We got to talk.

687
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: When I say, I've never been so curious, we have

688
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: what forty five minutes we're gonna go all the time.

689
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: Katie already knows that I feel bad because we have

690
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: another guest, but we'll figure it out.

691
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 3: A lot of talk about so anyway, if you don't

692
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 3: get clean, it's done. I'm out of your life. Matthles,

693
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 3: So in here right now, two eggs. We're using turkey

694
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 3: for my sister because she's not gonna eat ground beef.

695
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,919
Speaker 3: And she said, so listen, let's have our last shot

696
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 3: at Jamison. Get your ass clean, so then clean detox.

697
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 3: Here comes the matzamal again. This is Jewish breadcrumbs. And

698
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 3: I had my last shot at Jamison and then I

699
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 3: went and detoxed because it wasn't just alcohol, it was

700
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 3: also drugs. My jug of choice is very Rick James.

701
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 3: And I'll leave it at that. And I'm glad I

702
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 3: would have asked one hell of a drug and and

703
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 3: I did it. I went home and I started so in.

704
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: My seasoning, and she put the tonys.

705
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 3: I believe Tony's just last.

706
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: Tony's last. I'll startry season. I'm paying attention to the

707
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: story gains.

708
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 3: I'm going to I'm gonna do some onion powder after that.

709
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 1: Just seasoning all the meat.

710
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 3: Guys us name to me.

711
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: And she's she's gangster with it because she's not even

712
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: using the little sprinkle tops.

713
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 3: All that look looks, smell and touch.

714
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: Oh there we got the onion.

715
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 3: You know what it looks like, you know what it

716
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 3: looks like it's gonna be. And then this is where

717
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 3: the garlic comes in at my house. Garlic at my

718
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 3: house just a tast a little because you know it's

719
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 3: a gas drop. Now what I did, though, I do hear.

720
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 3: My father's from New Orleans. We didn't live. We get

721
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 3: our our little bit, just our little bit.

722
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 1: Of our Tony's okay.

723
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 3: And then this is when I put the gloves on

724
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 3: because I'm on the TV. Okay, you know it's my hand.

725
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So back to the story. So you go,

726
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: you go to.

727
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know the detax. It's in my bed,

728
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 3: sweating it out. Oh I thought you said you wish,

729
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 3: So I don't go anywhere. I'm having my sheets changed

730
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 3: every six hours or so, sweating out GATORID B twelve

731
00:37:59,280 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 3: vitamin C.

732
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: And during the whole details, are you like pooping yourself,

733
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: throwing up and all that? You have to go through

734
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: all those motions, like you have to go through everything,

735
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: and then like, is there is there family on site

736
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: to like get you drinks or just stay and are.

737
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 3: You there's not? There's there's there's main family. There's not family. Family.

738
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 3: I don't have a lot of family, family, a and

739
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 3: and that's what it was. Okay, it was what it

740
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 3: needed to be for me to do it. I don't

741
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 3: have anya people around, but I have who I need

742
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 3: to have to get me through because I'm in a

743
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 3: lot of prayer. I have God, yeah, and a lot

744
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 3: a little too much pride. But you know, if I

745
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 3: was going to go, I was going to go. Had

746
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 3: a couple of conversations with with death. Who to me.

747
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 3: She never scared me. She was never coming with a

748
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 3: sickle to take me. I felt when I saw her

749
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 3: the three times. And I'm just going to tell everyone

750
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 3: this might sound strange, but she's super hot. She has

751
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 3: red hair, she looks I she had badass boots on

752
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 3: and a hell of a belt buckle.

753
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: Milike. I love you, I really think, I genuinely.

754
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 3: Just love you. I love you too. I knew when

755
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 3: I saw you so and she you know, she's she

756
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: stood over the bed a couple of times and she

757
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 3: just checked in just to let me know she was

758
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 3: there and I didn't have to come. She never put

759
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 3: her hand out to me and said let's go. She

760
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 3: stood there and let me know I didn't have to

761
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 3: come detox is.

762
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: Really bad trip.

763
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 3: It's a trip.

764
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: So how long do you have to detox for?

765
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 3: It took me about fourteen solid days.

766
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: Fourteen days of hanging out with the girl. What's you say?

767
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: She was worth?

768
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 3: Just badass, a badass belt buckle on bad She was like,

769
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 3: hey you she was good, she was good. Made it

770
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 3: fourteen days?

771
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 1: What do you so? Then you start your walk?

772
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 3: Officially, I didn't start my walk yet. I waited thirty

773
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 3: I waited thirty. But in this time my best friend

774
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 3: yet again. Her husband was, I'm just gonna like clean this,

775
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,919
Speaker 3: you know, when I'm not, I'm gonna use the same

776
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 3: pan and nice and hot. Here comes to oil because

777
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 3: I'm getting ready to make some little Jewish mebals.

778
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: Guys, we're gonna eat good.

779
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 3: We don't eat good, and we're going are we hot

780
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 3: orre we We're still hot? Okay, we're gonna put that

781
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 3: oil in. And there was a screening for a film

782
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 3: that he had just produced, a documentary, and their friend,

783
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 3: who had many, many years of sobriety, was that the screening,

784
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: here's the setup, and I'm in a program and of sobriety.

785
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 3: And when there's someone there that that has time. They're

786
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 3: sometimes called your eskimo, and your eskimo is who kind

787
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 3: of brings you back. Right. So she comes up to me,

788
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 3: a very dear friend and says, so you got some time? Now,

789
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 3: how's that? How's that doing? How's that going for you? Thank? Yeah? Here,

790
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 3: you haven't gone to any other meetings? How's that gonna

791
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,479
Speaker 3: worry you? And I'm like, I'm fine, I'm doing great,

792
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 3: I'm wonderful, terrific. Well, if you ever want to, you know,

793
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 3: you can call me. And my prideful ass waited thirty days. Okay,

794
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 3: so I did not have to walk in New Okay.

795
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: Was walking anew that tough for my ass? Okay?

796
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was because I still wasn't ready to Now

797
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 3: I would. I would never suggest hello, if you're struggling,

798
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 3: please just get some help please. And I'm a'm eight

799
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 3: year staff now.

800
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: Wow, Congress, thank you, Congret, thank you for coming back.

801
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 3: Thank you.

802
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: Now we have Rhyme and Pokemon. We had a lot more,

803
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 1: but you know, we got a lot. We got a

804
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: lot to look forward to it and I got a

805
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 1: new frame.

806
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 3: But life, that's man.

807
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: I would to now learn, you know what, when I

808
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: got the recipe for a Jewish spaghetti and Jewish meatballs.

809
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 1: I was like, Jewish spaghetti, yes, there is jewishballs.

810
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 3: There we go. So I can't say that that like

811
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 3: this was like my my jelly, my jelly, you know, sandwich.

812
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 3: But it means so much because this was what I

813
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 3: could do. This was pretty much all I could bring

814
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 3: myself to make because it still smelled like my mam

815
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 3: was home who and it was something that my baby's loves,

816
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 3: and it was something I knew how to do. So

817
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 3: that's what I made.

818
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: We're gonna end It's gonna be my new favorite dish.

819
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 3: I hope it is.

820
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: So what's the deal with the oil? You have to

821
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: put a lot and then you put a lot.

822
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 3: Crying meat balls.

823
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: I've never made meatballs in my life.

824
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 3: Crazy?

825
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: Are they terrible?

826
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 3: People? Hate? They're terrible people. You're gonna hate them. They're

827
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 3: gonna hate them.

828
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: Use the tight ones. Everyone likes the tight ones.

829
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 3: Make little one.

830
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: I always give the big ones.

831
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 3: Make the little ones because they cook faster. And these

832
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 3: gloves are really hard and I'm so ready to take

833
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 3: them off. Sorry, please take them off.

834
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: You could take them off. Just don't touch your hair.

835
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: I want it's gonna be that awkward, like, hey, you got.

836
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 3: Kill me, they would kill me.

837
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: That is your hair naturally curly? Is it like mine?

838
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 3: My hair is like yours?

839
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: Okay?

840
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 3: Cool?

841
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: I was just curious, all right.

842
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 3: How's my hair not like yours?

843
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: I'lly I always gotta ask.

844
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, just thick.

845
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's actually.

846
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 3: You're real thick. I'm unbelievable. So that's thank you.

847
00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: Kimming like, okay, so you're frying these and you're making

848
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: you do you have to take off your rings? Are

849
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: you good?

850
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 3: I don't take off my ring? Oh god?

851
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: Okay, so okay, so cast me up. Okay. So we

852
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: went through one hell of a journey with you. Thank

853
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: you for all the transparency. Now you're going through the

854
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: detas and everything your career. You're still managing to hold

855
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 1: up a really good career and you're making this money,

856
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: but your ex is still helping out make it short

857
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: at So is your career like, make it enough to

858
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: pay for everything? What's going on during that whole period?

859
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know how to. I still don't know

860
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 3: how to handle my money.

861
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: Though, Okay, So, and then is the addiction sucking up

862
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: some of that money too?

863
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 3: Oh, the addiction. Well, you know, we all do what

864
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 3: we do to survive and try to use our addiction

865
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 3: money to just take care of our addiction. So that

866
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,959
Speaker 3: might mean, you know, I don't know, you might start

867
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 3: your own secondary business to keep that afloat. You might

868
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 3: I don't know, you might have wait in the car

869
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 3: or something so you don't have to worry about you.

870
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: You are beyond real.

871
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 3: We might do some of the You might start a

872
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 3: pizza delivery service. I mean, I don't know you so

873
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 3: oh but no, but actor as actor and nightlife is nightlife.

874
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,280
Speaker 3: That's what happens to some folks.

875
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: So when did you end up learning about how to

876
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: take care of the bills and stuff?

877
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 3: I was with my agency that I loved, and I

878
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 3: again another guide shot by the grace of God. I

879
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 3: ran into my agent, Portia Scott, my current agent and

880
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 3: business partner. Hi Porscha, I love you so very much,

881
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 3: and I had already booked Missus Pancakes on Rick and Morty,

882
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 3: and more needed to be going on because again she

883
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 3: was the only black female character. You know, I've been

884
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 3: these black female iconic characters and nothing was being done

885
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 3: with them. And I loved my agency but the animation

886
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 3: department just didn't do what could have been done because

887
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 3: I don't think they got it. Portion I had to talk,

888
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 3: and I decided to leave my agency and I go

889
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 3: over to Portia. Wow, a black agent, a black female

890
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: agent that had her finger on the pulse. And when

891
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 3: that happened, life changed, and we've been together ever since.

892
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 3: I created my own acting technique because even before all

893
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 3: that happened, I started coaching.

894
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: This stuff is popping, but you sound like a pro

895
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: in a kitchen.

896
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 3: You're good.

897
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: You're not even flinching. I'm over here praying.

898
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 3: Girl, Come on now. I created my I started coaching actors.

899
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 3: I started coaching animation and commercial a while before that

900
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 3: with the casting director and because my mother always said

901
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 3: those who can't do teach, and a casting director said,

902
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 3: you know, we'd like you to start coaching for us.

903
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 3: And I came home, was over. She's like, not you,

904
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 3: not you? And I so I started coaching and I

905
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 3: realized I was a great director. How could I not

906
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 3: be doing this my whole life? Yeah, And then it

907
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 3: turned into this weird cult like people just wanted to

908
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 3: keep working with me. And I told my mother I

909
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 3: wanted to start a company and call it the Darchy

910
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 3: Emingite Company because I'm that girl. And she was like, Malik,

911
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 3: your name is Malik Burger. You're gonna make reels. You're

912
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 3: gonna call it Burger's Reels. Duh. So I did that

913
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:26,439
Speaker 3: and I wound up starting something. She's here, she's here,

914
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 3: she likes you. So so I started Burger's Reels and

915
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 3: I became the first black female to produce and direct

916
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 3: animation and commercial demos. And then I created my technique,

917
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,479
Speaker 3: art of the pivot, the art.

918
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: Of the pivot.

919
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 3: So when I started reading over your stuff today, I

920
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 3: was like, pivot. Oh, this is it. And because I

921
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 3: have so much training, and I just took all the

922
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 3: Meisner and Stanislavsky and Uda Hagen and everything I've studied

923
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 3: and started teaching beyond of the pivot.

924
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: So now, how how can people sign up to get

925
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: those classes and all that?

926
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 3: You could go look me up Malik Berger dot com

927
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 3: or Burger's Reels la dot com or is it yeah,

928
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 3: okay it is and not do that. That's what I do. Come,

929
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 3: but you need you know, this is the thing about voiceover.

930
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 3: It doesn't have ship to do with your voice acting.

931
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 3: This is acting acting first voice seconds and now so

932
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 3: people think you need to make funny voices and blah

933
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 3: blah blah, be an actor.

934
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: That's now. You were so good because you started as

935
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 1: an actor, So you're really an actress with that's it.

936
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 3: Oh, you're an actor and voiceover is the truest form

937
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 3: of acting.

938
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: Why do you say that because you got you don't have.

939
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 3: A set, you don't have props, you don't have someone

940
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 3: you're working with. This is this is the Greek chorus.

941
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,240
Speaker 3: They had masks on their face.

942
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 1: Baby, wow, this is a thing.

943
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 3: This is this is your mind. So people don't think

944
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 3: about that, do that? No, these are my glasses and

945
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 3: not their hair. But yeah, that's very important because you know,

946
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 3: I hear people all the time they go.

947
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: You know, people think that I had to really good

948
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: for right, and they.

949
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 3: Was, no, honey, take it an acting class.

950
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: Because you have to be so many different characters.

951
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 3: Right.

952
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: So if it if it's just a voice for for

953
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 1: for you have a good voice, that doesn't make sense.

954
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 3: Why are you opening your mouth? What's your moment before?

955
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 3: Who are you talking to? Where are you when you're

956
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 3: talking to them? What are you talking about? What's the

957
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 3: beginning in the middle of the end.

958
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: I actually think about that sometimes when I'm watching a movie, like,

959
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, they had to really get into that,

960
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: like mentally, you had to picture yourself there to really

961
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 1: pull it off. Right. So when you're recording now, I

962
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: want to get into the business side. So when you're

963
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna call uh, we're gonna call a cut. Damn, guys,

964
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 1: can you could just well, I'll help you pause commercial break.

965
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: She needs to wash her hands. So we're mixing the

966
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: spaghetti noodles and the sauce. So take me up to

967
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 1: right now where you're at in your life career. Right now,

968
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: you have a huge hit. Right now, Pokemon, we know

969
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: successfully you are where you are. I don't think you

970
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: quite answered the question about who ended up teaching you

971
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: about how to manage money. I know your agent ended

972
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: up in the picture, but you didn't tell me.

973
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 3: Like Portia Scott ended up, you know, waking me up

974
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 3: and saying, listen, you got too much, you're too good,

975
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 3: let's get let's get it together. And I opened my

976
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 3: own business and then I felt, you know it truly

977
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 3: was my duty to be of service to other actors.

978
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 3: So I started directing and coaching, and then I realized

979
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 3: I had a huge gift of making demos and teaching

980
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 3: the truth. Then I developed the art of the pivot.

981
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 3: Out of the Pivot is also the sister to Porsche's Method,

982
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 3: which is method on the mic and the actor's toolkit.

983
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 3: And we just have a beautiful, beautiful business teaching other

984
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 3: actors and trying to get Like, if you wanted to

985
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 3: be a dentist, right and you went to dental school,

986
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 3: you'd be able to leave and actually start an office.

987
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 3: In this situation, you can't leave a university and have

988
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 3: a degree and voiceover. It doesn't exist, and we don't

989
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 3: think that's right. So we're fighting for that. And then

990
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 3: I have the most brilliant PR manager with Shannon Shannon

991
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 3: Barnes Strategic. We love you, We love you, And now

992
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to spread spread the word. Now this

993
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 3: is a little small, so what I'm going to do

994
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 3: is the old trick. I'm going to take this and

995
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do the old I was almost going to

996
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 3: do a different recipe for you, which I would have

997
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 3: had to have done this and get everything over on

998
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 3: the plate. We're gonna hopefully well do it different when

999
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 3: we tape this from my house on our phones. But

1000
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 3: now you'll see that doesn't have to be pretty. Okay,

1001
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 3: does not have to be pretty, but at least you're

1002
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 3: seeing that everything is mixed up, and it's that butter

1003
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 3: that's going to stick everything together. I like mine saucy,

1004
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 3: my grandmother. I'm gonna take this other plate my grandmother,

1005
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 3: and it's had. It's fine, don't worry about it, my grandmother,

1006
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 3: and then they liked it. A little dryer may serve you,

1007
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 3: Madame del And this is just thank you. So again,

1008
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 3: this not only has no that's another thing. There's no

1009
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 3: cheese on it, but it's Jewish. It's no, it's not

1010
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 3: I'm not kosher. It's not kosher. It's funny because I

1011
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 3: guess I guess you don't worry. We're gonna we're gonna

1012
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 3: teach you more about your Judaism. But please enjoy, Please enjoy,

1013
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 3: and tell me what it's like with turkey, because that

1014
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 3: sounds really fun to me. So I'm not going to

1015
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 3: say it was what did you What was it like

1016
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 3: when you were broke? What I will say, this meal

1017
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 3: to me signifies what I could do in honor of

1018
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 3: my mother, and in honor of a time when I

1019
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 3: wasn't all myself, and now I can make it with

1020
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,959
Speaker 3: a lot more pride. I love that because it's really

1021
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 3: nice to be alive and around.

1022
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 1: Yes, and I'm very happy and thankful that you alive,

1023
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 1: around and back. Yeah, we're going to try this.

1024
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 3: Do it well.

1025
00:53:55,040 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: She loves me, I like to the people. Is that

1026
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: the masa meal, the masa oil?

1027
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 3: So my new best friend of me here, guys, look

1028
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 3: at this.

1029
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: Mhm.

1030
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 3: There was the sweet with the salty, right, and then

1031
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 3: if you the.

1032
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: Tomato paste makes sense now, right, And then if.

1033
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 3: You can get it all in one bite, then you

1034
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,919
Speaker 3: see there's a crunch from the onion. Still oh right,

1035
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 3: but it's not it's not nasty onion. It's still been.

1036
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: I really like the onion in it.

1037
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

1038
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: I really like the onion. And I was trying to

1039
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: give you very little onions. You don't know this, but throughout,

1040
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: like I think you had two onions. I cut up

1041
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: half an onion, and then you came back it was

1042
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: like that's not enough onion.

1043
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, ship, what's your thing with onions?

1044
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: You have to slice them really thin. That's what I

1045
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: think the secret is, you know, when they have the

1046
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: big old chunks, you can't do that.

1047
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 3: But did you get a bite with both? Now? Hmm?

1048
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 3: Did you gotta buy it with both? What do you think?

1049
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 3: I love it so Jewish spaghetti and.

1050
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: Jewish spaghetti Sambi balls definitely a good one. I would

1051
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 1: maybe add some cheese.

1052
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 3: You totally can.

1053
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,720
Speaker 1: I would maybe add some cheese. But I can also

1054
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: see that the paste actually helps for all of you

1055
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: guys that don't try to opt out for the paste.

1056
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 1: I think the paste helps. Gluid is the paste that's glued.

1057
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 1: I think it's the paste.

1058
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 3: And then there's you know, there's a lot of butter

1059
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 3: in here because I like it and it tastes good,

1060
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 3: and that's why they make it.

1061
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: When you cook all your onions at home, you use butter.

1062
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 1: You and I it just butter. Let me tell you something,

1063
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 1: butter me.

1064
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 3: You know all that.

1065
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: Sister, we are sisters.

1066
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 3: Oh wait, we didn't in our cutdamn. We have to

1067
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 3: drink the c yes, the pre hugof in shall my love.

1068
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for I mean, these two go

1069
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: together really well.

1070
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 3: Like Shamalama Lama lamading.

1071
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 1: Real, they really do go together like.

1072
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 3: Shoe Bop Showaddy Waddy Hippie Dippy Dip.

1073
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: From now So I got eating because it's a food show.

1074
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: It's a food show. People actually get irritated by that.

1075
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: But why she's smacking so much the game? It's a

1076
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: food show. You don't listen to eating while broke. I

1077
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: expect to hear some smacking. Now you are stable, I

1078
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 1: don't imagine what was like a little under I would

1079
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: say I'm God at three. So you're definitely like almost

1080
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: fifty years in the.

1081
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 3: Game, fifty two fifty two years ago.

1082
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, I thought, you don't look at it. You

1083
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: don't look at it all.

1084
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 3: But it's the scare of dealing nice sleep without Manchester.

1085
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: And then you wait, you also remarried. We didn't cover that.

1086
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,359
Speaker 3: Yes, I remarried Jay Robertson from Mertha to Bill. Let's

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00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 3: hear it for whales, yay Wales, and just really quick.

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00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 3: During the pandemic, it was very easy to start ordering

1089
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 3: things online. So I ordered a trans man from Whales, Yes,

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00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 3: and he showed up at the doorstep and I was like, great,

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00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 3: I'll take it.

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00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 1: So transman is.

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00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 3: Female to male, female female to male, and I've got

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00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 3: to tell you Jay if you're watching, which you will be.

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00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 3: I love you so much, baby, by the love of

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00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 3: my life. And thank you.

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00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: No, I'm I don't know why.

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00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 3: I don't know why you're covering your mouth like I

1099
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 3: haven't seen you eat already?

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00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: Girl?

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00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 3: To what what you.

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00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: And I eating?

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00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 3: Like you feel better? You're cute? I really cute.

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00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: You should be because so your ex husband and everybody

1105
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: gets along great?

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00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 3: Sure do they should do?

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00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: That was beautiful and I think that's really great for

1108
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: your sons.

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00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 3: It absolutely is.

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00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely What advice would you give to someone trying to

1111
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: get into this game?

1112
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 3: Biggest advice go into the Voice Over Reese Guide. Can

1113
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,200
Speaker 3: I look there? And I really tell you the Voiceover

1114
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 3: Resource Guide. The BORG is something that you can find online.

1115
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,919
Speaker 3: You can look under NAVA, which is the National Association

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00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 3: of Voiceover Artists. Do not fall into a trap where

1117
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 3: someone is going to offer you something where you spend

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00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 3: money to become a star able. I can teach you

1119
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 3: this in two weeks. No, study your craft and work

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00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 3: with reputable people, people who are in this industry. This

1121
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 3: is a very easy business to get into and get robbed.

1122
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 3: Please do not do that. Learn to be an actor

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00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 3: this is a craft and it is not going to

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00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 3: happen overnight, so please save yourself a heartache. Work with

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00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 3: real people.

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00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: Yes, and then where can they go to Malik Burger School.

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00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 3: You can check me out at Burger's Reels b E

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00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 3: r g e R sreels dot com or go over

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00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 3: to Malikburger dot com. You could see what else is

1130
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 3: going on with me. Please check me out on Pokemon Horizons.

1131
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 3: I want to say, yeah, season two airing now on Netflix.

1132
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 3: I am the character rhyme and there's a whole bunch

1133
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 3: of lot of stuff coming up too, so hopefully I

1134
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:15,919
Speaker 3: will be seeing you at Como Con soon.

1135
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: And do you have socials? Are you doing?

1136
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 3: I'm on all kinds.

1137
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: It's just Milie Berger, okay, perfect.

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00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 3: No, just and it's b e r g e R.

1139
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 3: That's where everybody messes up. M E l i q

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00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 3: U E b E r g e R. I'm also

1141
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 3: this one's best friend, so.

1142
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys, just slide in the d MS. I'll

1143
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: tell you how great she is. But thank you, guys,

1144
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: thank you so much for feeding me and opening up

1145
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: and telling your whole story. And you were write this story.

1146
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: I definitely am like in love, love love, love you.

1147
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: Thank you, you know, and I can't wait to meet

1148
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: the family.

1149
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 3: You're meeting everybody, So to me, I just wanted to

1150
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 3: tell you thank you. I might not have been broke,

1151
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 3: but I was broken, So.

1152
00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 1: This was perfect. I think. I think you you really

1153
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: understood the concept of the show. And one thing I

1154
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 1: tell people, like, if you were middle class, if you

1155
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: were rich, or your family was successful, do not hide

1156
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 1: your story because the road to success, as you see

1157
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: with Malik, is never straight. It's a roller coaster. Right,

1158
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: Malik went through a lot, she did. She was exposed

1159
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: to success. But even talking about financial, money management, or

1160
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: dealing with traumas and all that, and you know, hanging

1161
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 1: out with death. You know, even as fine as she

1162
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 1: was fine, you know, she can't us with us, you know.

1163
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: So shout outs to you and definitely thank you, and

1164
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: we all can say thank you for keeping it one

1165
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 1: hundred percent real.

1166
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you Malik.

1167
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: Peace out, guys, peace.

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01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 3: Mel blank And he did all these.

1169
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: Johnny Carson unbelievable day dunk. The question is was he

1170
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 1: an inspiration for him?

1171
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 3: Absolutely?

1172
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: Oh damn, you should have texted me that one. Why

1173
01:00:59,200 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: do you think he did.

1174
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 3: Over industry. I think that he is the original of

1175
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 3: you can do anything you set your mind to do,

1176
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 3: because who took over is a man named Bob Bergen.

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01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 3: And Bob Bergen's dream was to be Porky Pig. And

1178
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 3: this was a young Jewish guy from Middle America that

1179
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 3: moved out here when he was fifteen years old, and

1180
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 3: he is now the voice of Porky Pig, Daffy Duck, Bugs, Bunny.

1181
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 3: And he did it, so talk a little bit about

1182
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 3: mel blank, what it melt blank? A Jewish guy that

1183
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 3: got up and made it, made the voices and made

1184
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 3: room for us to do it. That's what he did.

1185
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: He did every Let me just say something right now,

1186
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 1: we gonna keep keep this edit not the educational dead moment,

1187
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: but keep my dad askn't a really good question in

1188
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: the episode. For more eating while Broke from iHeartRadio and

1189
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 1: The Black Effects, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or

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01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 1: wherever you listen to your favorite Jos