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Speaker 1: It is a Football Friday Week twelve edition. Can the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals continue their winning ways? Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show,

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Speaker 1: Zach Erstman joins me, it's been two weeks since we've

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Speaker 1: seen the Cardinals in action, a four game winning streak

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Speaker 1: interrupted because of the bye week. So what happens Sunday?

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Speaker 1: Did they just pick up where they left off? Plus,

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Speaker 1: we head into enemy territory and speak with John Boyle,

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Speaker 1: senior reporter for Seahawks dot Com at Cardinals Cover two,

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Speaker 1: Episode eight twenty two, and it starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 3: Booda Baker? What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: He's ad a ten half of five. He's it again,

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Speaker 3: so more hurry magic.

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Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craigcrioler.

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Speaker 1: It's been the question all week long, Zach, as far

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Speaker 1: as how the Cardinals respond after the bye week, But

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Speaker 1: maybe a bigger question here is how do you and

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Speaker 1: I respond after a bye week? Because it's been a

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Speaker 1: little while since we've had a football Friday.

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Speaker 3: Correct, But we're going to be the pros that we

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Speaker 3: know we could be. We're going to control we could control.

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Speaker 3: You know, let the main thing be the main thing,

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Speaker 3: and you know, produce a really good episode of Cardinals

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Speaker 3: Cover two.

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Speaker 1: Any other cliches that we hear from coaches and players

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Speaker 1: that you want to throw in that answer?

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Speaker 3: One day at a time. We're just focusing this on

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Speaker 3: one show at a time, one show at a block

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Speaker 3: at a time, one minute at a time, one word

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Speaker 3: at a time. Where are you are ready to go?

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Speaker 3: We're not looking ahead to Monday's cover two. We're not

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Speaker 3: looking ahead. We are going to be looking ahead to

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Speaker 3: Sunday's game, but not really, if you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: We're going to be only focused locked here on Cardinals

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Speaker 3: cover two. Ready to give the bird Gang a great episode,

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Speaker 3: a great listen.

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Speaker 1: All right, so let's focus in on what's ahead for

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Speaker 1: this Arizona.

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Speaker 3: AMoD that good? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Well you on validation now?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to make sure I got this

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Speaker 3: coach speak down. Pat, thank you?

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Speaker 1: Okay, there you go, get your run of applause.

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Speaker 3: And just so the audience is aware, Craig and I

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Speaker 3: were both clapping for that wasn't just me clapping, You.

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Speaker 1: Give yourself an applause as well. Cardinals at Seahawks coming

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Speaker 1: up on Sunday two twenty five is the kickoff from

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Speaker 1: Seattle nine to thirty am. Pregame coverage begins on the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. A little bit later on here

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Speaker 1: we will speak with John Boyle, senior reporter for Seahawks

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Speaker 1: dot Com, to get a little bit more into this matchup.

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Speaker 1: But based off what we have seen and heard during

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Speaker 1: the bye week, considering how well they played going into

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Speaker 1: the bye week. I do think it helps Zach that

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Speaker 3: With the Seahawks are openly talking about how they have

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Speaker 3: in the NFC West for the Arizona Cardinals. If the

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Speaker 3: When that is the case, it's because your play calls

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Speaker 1: And also remember this what we've heard from Jonathan Gannon

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Speaker 3: He values those practice reps.

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Speaker 1: And even though you are here late November getting into December,

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Speaker 3: I'm happy you mentioned that because I get to plug

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Speaker 3: my article with Baron Browning spoke with the Cardinal's newest

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Speaker 3: I said, Baron, what, outside of the travel and all

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Speaker 3: And maybe that's because he played eighteen snaps in his

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Speaker 3: As far as Jalen Thompson, does he practice on Friday.

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Speaker 1: So you have that guy in a reserve role that

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Speaker 1: And then of course everyone wants to know about Darius

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Speaker 1: Darius had a really good week. I do think it

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Speaker 3: True and truthfully, outside of the ten snaps he had

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Speaker 3: So I truthfully would be surprised if he plays, but

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Speaker 1: And then as far as Jonah Williams, if he is available,

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Speaker 3: So if Jonah Williams does have a jersey, Johnathan Gannon

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Speaker 3: I don't. I wouldn't. I don't expect for Jonah to

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Speaker 1: we speak here Thursday, John, how are you. How are

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Speaker 1: I saw your posts from defensive End, Jaron Reid saying,

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Speaker 3: And to do it on the road too, is equally

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Speaker 3: Out of that line.

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Speaker 4: I think that's really going to help you the run

436
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Speaker 4: get going, because they know, you know, they still want

437
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Speaker 4: to do it. It just has not really been there

438
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Speaker 4: consistently this year.

439
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Speaker 3: Switching over to the defensive side of the ball, but

440
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Speaker 3: sticking on the defensive line. Byron Murphy the second a

441
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Speaker 3: guy that you guys drafted the first round sixteenth overall,

442
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Speaker 3: came in with a lot of hype. Has he met

443
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Speaker 3: your expectations so far?

444
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Speaker 4: I mean he's playing really well that the numbers aren't

445
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Speaker 4: necessarily there. He hasn't had, you know, maybe his me

446
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Speaker 4: chance to be really disruptive in the backfield. He did

447
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Speaker 4: miss a few games. He had a hamstring injury that

448
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Speaker 4: you know, probably slowed his progress a little bit. But

449
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Speaker 4: you know, it can be tough for those into your guy.

450
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Speaker 4: You know, sometimes you flash and you get a lot

451
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Speaker 4: of plays in the backfield. Sometimes you're you know, he

452
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Speaker 4: he is you know, doing if you go watch the tape,

453
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Speaker 4: you know, he's a handful for the guy trying to

454
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Speaker 4: block him. He's occupying a lot of double teams, doing

455
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Speaker 4: some good things to run defense. So, you know, I

456
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Speaker 4: think they're very happy with that pick, and he's playing

457
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Speaker 4: really well, but maybe just some of the chances to

458
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Speaker 4: really make those impact plays in the backfield haven't materialized yet.

459
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Speaker 4: But I feel like they think that's coming for him.

460
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Speaker 4: His role seems to be growing every week, and they

461
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Speaker 4: you know, they've they've been getting deeper and more consistent

462
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Speaker 4: on the defensive line. They dealt with a lot of injuries,

463
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Speaker 4: including his earlier this year, and I think that group

464
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Speaker 4: getting healthier has been been a reason we've seen the

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Speaker 4: defense play better.

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Speaker 1: On the topic of run defense, how do you think

467
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Speaker 1: the Seahawks handled James Connor and the Cardinals ground game?

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Speaker 4: You know, I feel a lot better about it than

469
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Speaker 4: if he's asked me that question three weeks ago, because

470
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Speaker 4: they had a tough stretch there at you know, four

471
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Speaker 4: or five opponents in a row and rush for over

472
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Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty yards. They were just really having

473
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Speaker 4: a hard time stopping people in the ground. But against

474
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Speaker 4: it was like two point eight to carry, and last

475
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Speaker 4: week against forty nine ers they helped theccaffrey to seventy

476
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Speaker 4: some yards. I think, so it was, you know, a

477
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Speaker 4: much better effort in the last two weeks against teams

478
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Speaker 4: that historically have given them a ton of fits defensively.

479
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Speaker 4: So you know, they know it's a tough challenge the

480
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Speaker 4: quarterback obviously at the wrinkle that they haven't had to

481
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Speaker 4: face yet in terms of the mobility, So they know

482
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Speaker 4: it's Gonnay tests for there in defense. But confidence is

483
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Speaker 4: much higher because they've they've done a lot of things

484
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Speaker 4: well these last two games on defense.

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Speaker 3: Anytime the Cardinals are on the field, it seems like

486
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Speaker 3: the opponents have been talking about Marvin Harrison Junior. Obviously,

487
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Speaker 3: the name is what stands out on top of just

488
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Speaker 3: the player and what he's able to bring on any

489
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Speaker 3: given Sunday. Has that been a topic of conversation, even

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Speaker 3: though he is a rookie and the numbers haven't popped

491
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Speaker 3: off and maybe as legendary as some people thought it

492
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Speaker 3: might be. Has that been a topic of conversation?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean his name's come up a few times. Honestly.

494
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Speaker 4: One reason came up as We were talking to Jackson

495
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Speaker 4: Smith and Jigob about it because they're you know, college

496
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 4: teammates and talking about that lineage of all these receivers

497
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 4: have come out of Ohio State the last couple of years.

498
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Speaker 4: So I have not actually heard any of the cornerbacks

499
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Speaker 4: talk to the media yet. This week, safety Julian Love did.

500
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Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean he's got their attention obviously, you know,

501
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Speaker 4: doing what he did in college and and you know,

502
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Speaker 4: even if the numbers aren't there this year, I think

503
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Speaker 4: he's put enough plays on tape that everyone knows he's

504
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Speaker 4: gonna be. You know, he's one of the players that

505
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 4: could pop it in any moment. If you don't give

506
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Speaker 4: him their respect, he deserves.

507
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Speaker 1: The coverage in that Seahawks secondary with Devin Witherspoon and

508
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Speaker 1: Rieke Wolan. How good I mean, I can look at

509
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Speaker 1: the numbers, but you see them every day and watch

510
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Speaker 1: them on Sunday. How good are they playing against opposing

511
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Speaker 1: wide receivers like a Marvin Harrison junior.

512
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean those two have been playing really well

513
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Speaker 4: all the year, and I think, you know, Mike McDonald says,

514
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Speaker 4: they both had, you know, one of their better games

515
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Speaker 4: of the season. Last week against forty nine ers and

516
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Speaker 4: really Dwan Jennings put up I think ninety one yards,

517
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Speaker 4: but otherwise they did almost nothing through the air forty

518
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Speaker 4: nine ers, So, you know, they feel really good about

519
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Speaker 4: their There's been sort of a couple of guys coming

520
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Speaker 4: through the third corner spot and a guy named Josh

521
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 4: Job who's not a household name by any means, it's

522
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Speaker 4: taken over that role and he's played well also, So

523
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Speaker 4: they feel really good about the back end of that defense.

524
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Speaker 4: And you know, coverage wise, starting with Spoon and Riquel,

525
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Speaker 4: and they really feel like they've got some playmakers there.

526
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Speaker 1: Last one for me, John Luminfield. We all know how

527
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Speaker 1: difficult it is to play there and how loud it gets.

528
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Speaker 1: But home field advantage. The Seahawks have lost four in

529
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Speaker 1: a row at home. That's that's kind of unheard of.

530
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Speaker 1: But what is it the opponent or is there not

531
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Speaker 1: as much of a home field advantage?

532
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think there's a lot of trends

533
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Speaker 4: you can see league wide. I don't think hope field

534
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Speaker 4: advantage of what it used to be around the NFL,

535
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Speaker 4: just in terms of teams are getting better at you know,

536
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Speaker 4: handling noise handling travel, you know, more comfortable travel all that.

537
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Speaker 4: You know, she has to have been a really good

538
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Speaker 4: road team for a while now, so it is curious

539
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 4: and they know, you know, that's been a topic of

540
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Speaker 4: conversations week, Like, they know they need to win more

541
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Speaker 4: games at home if they're going to do things they

542
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 4: want to do here gotch Arizona this week at home.

543
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Speaker 4: They've got a couple other NFC playoff hopefully come into

544
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Speaker 4: town later this season, so they know they got to

545
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Speaker 4: start winning games at home. It's hard to really put

546
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Speaker 4: a finger on the fans are still really loud there

547
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 4: and all that, but just for a myriad of reasons,

548
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Speaker 4: they've not been able to win home games lately, and

549
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Speaker 4: that's something they know that needs to change if they're

550
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Speaker 4: going to be a playoff team.

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Speaker 1: Well let's hope it doesn't change this week with the

552
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Speaker 1: Cardinals coming to town. John, always appreciate the time, and

553
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Speaker 1: stay safe in Seattle this week.

554
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Speaker 4: Thank you very much. Sif Carvel's out.

555
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Speaker 1: Here, appreciate John joining us. And how about we speak

556
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Speaker 1: with John Boyle in a couple of weeks time, because

557
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 1: the Cardinals and Seahawks will play each other in two

558
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Speaker 1: weeks time. From Sunday that game. Though in Arizona we

559
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Speaker 1: mentioned the home field perhaps disadvantage because the Seahawks have

560
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: lost four in a row. But anytime you go to Seattle,

561
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Speaker 1: because of the noise and perhaps because of the weather

562
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Speaker 1: potential have an factor in as well. This has always

563
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Speaker 1: been a difficult trip for any team because of how

564
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Speaker 1: far you have to travel, even if you are on

565
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Speaker 1: the West Coast, and it is a difficult place to play,

566
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Speaker 1: even though you wouldn't think about it, considering what's happened

567
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Speaker 1: in the last four games the Seahawks have played there.

568
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Speaker 3: Well, it's the twelves, it's their fan base. Is what

569
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 3: they're known for is for bringing the loud noise, the

570
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Speaker 3: legion of boom, and that was the thing over there

571
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Speaker 3: in Seattle. It wasn't just because of the hard hitting defense,

572
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Speaker 3: the secondary that they had. It was because the fan

573
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Speaker 3: base also brought the boom. They also brought a lot

574
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Speaker 3: of energy, a lot of noise out there. So it

575
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Speaker 3: has not gone Seattle's way, and as you said to John,

576
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Speaker 3: hopefully it doesn't stay. I mean hopefully it stays that

577
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Speaker 3: way so that the Cardinals could go there take a win,

578
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Speaker 3: use that momentum because I believe in momentum. Use that momentum,

579
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Speaker 3: bring it over to Minnesota, to the Twin Cities, get

580
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,719
Speaker 3: a win over there, and then you face you know,

581
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Speaker 3: Seattle again and you get to wrap up that slate

582
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Speaker 3: of NFC West action against.

583
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Speaker 1: Them because of the weather. And now, this was going

584
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: to be the case either way. If it rains. Okay,

585
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,479
Speaker 1: if it doesn't rain, You're still going to turn and

586
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: hand the ball off to James Connor and establish the

587
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: run game because this is a run first offense. But

588
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: you look at the numbers historically for James Connor against

589
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Speaker 1: the Seahawks since coming to Arizona in twenty twenty one,

590
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: four hundred and sixty total scrimmage yards. That's three hundred

591
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Speaker 1: and nine rushing, one hundred and fifty one receiving, and

592
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Speaker 1: four total touchdowns, three rushing, one receiving. Now, you could

593
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Speaker 1: look at a number of teams in which James Connor

594
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Speaker 1: has played a handful of games and have those kind

595
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Speaker 1: of numbers, but it does mean more when it's a

596
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Speaker 1: division opponent and you have someone like James who was

597
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: running very well, breaking tackles. I believe the number now

598
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,479
Speaker 1: is sixty eight Forcemiths tackles, which is the most in

599
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 1: the league according to Next Gen Stats, and the fact

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Speaker 1: that he is very secure as far as maintaining possession

601
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Speaker 1: of the football, which Jonathan Gannon brought up on Friday,

602
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Speaker 1: because Jonathan Gannon doesn't say much as far as statistics,

603
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: but the one stat that he does pay attention to

604
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: is at turnover takeaway statistic exactly.

605
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Speaker 3: And James Connor, although he has lost the rock a

606
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 3: few times this year, has done a fairly solid job

607
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 3: at least the Cardinals retaining possession on those fumbles that

608
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 3: he has had. I mean, one resulted in Trade McBride's

609
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 3: touchdown early on in the season. So look, James Connor

610
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 3: is one of the best backs in the league. Despite

611
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Speaker 3: what people can talk about with the guy's age, he

612
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 3: has defied all those odds. He's done a really solid job.

613
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 3: In against the NFC West, He's done a really he's

614
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Speaker 3: one of the best running backs in the division. Obviously,

615
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Speaker 3: you know Christian McCaffrey from all that he's able to do,

616
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Speaker 3: but we haven't seen Christian McCaffrey that much this season.

617
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Speaker 3: You know what you're gonna be getting out of James Connor,

618
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 3: a hard nose running back that's going to try to

619
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Speaker 3: find the hole and struggle off a couple of different

620
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Speaker 3: defenders along the way as well. And I asked him

621
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Speaker 3: about his one thousand yard game last year when he

622
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Speaker 3: had he eclipsed the thousand yard mark. It was Week

623
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Speaker 3: eighteen against the Seattle Seahawks, and I asked him, being

624
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Speaker 3: the football savant that he is, when he sees team logos,

625
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 3: can he resonate different memories to that logo? And he said,

626
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure I'll be thinking about it this week,

627
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 3: but down the line, I'll see that Seattle Seahawks logo

628
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 3: and know the success I've had against them because of

629
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 3: moments and memories like that, and I expect for that

630
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 3: to continue this weekend.

631
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Speaker 1: Three hundred and three yards shy of one thousand rushing

632
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Speaker 1: yards for James Connor with these final seven games, but

633
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: just fifty six scrimmage yards away from one thousand, which

634
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: is something that you want a running back who is

635
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: a dual threat both running and receiving. And when James

636
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: Connor does get that century mark. As far as total

637
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: yards from scrimmage, Cardinals are five and one this season. Again, Yes,

638
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is the focal point of the offense. But

639
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: when James Connor is on his game and performing well,

640
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: that's when you know, so this Cardinals offense is performing well.

641
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 3: And that might be a little bit boring for Kyler Murray,

642
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 3: you know, after he said after the game against the

643
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Speaker 3: Chicago Bears where his stat line wasn't anything too in

644
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 3: your face, anything too exciting. But the win was in

645
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 3: the twenty nine to nine win over the Chicago Bears,

646
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Speaker 3: and that's because it was the running back show. It

647
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 3: was James Connors, Trey Benson getting his first touchdowns, Amrio

648
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 3: de Mercado on that fifty three yard sprint to the

649
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Speaker 3: end zone with just a few seconds left in the

650
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Speaker 3: first half, and in this game, considering the weather conditions,

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Speaker 3: you could expect that to be the same. And that

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Speaker 3: also means that Kyler Murray is a part of that

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Speaker 3: running game too with that threat out there, because if

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Speaker 3: you go into these Reid option situations, you know that

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Speaker 3: Kyler has no problem ripping in and darting his way

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Speaker 3: to the end zone and also raising his hand fifty

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Speaker 3: yards away from the goal line to signify that he

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Speaker 3: knows he's in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Kyler better than eight yards to carry, which leads

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Speaker 1: all quarterbacks this season in one of the top marks

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Speaker 1: as far as any player as far as running the

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Speaker 1: football this season. All right, Zach, what any other emphasis

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Speaker 1: or matchups that you're paying attention to here? With the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals and Seahawks.

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Speaker 3: I'm interested to see what they're able to do with

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Speaker 3: DK Metcalf. The Cardinals have done a really solid job

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Speaker 3: locking up all the previous team's top wide receivers. Tyreek

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Speaker 3: Hill and Jalen Waddle were shut down. Keenan Allen was

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Speaker 3: heavily limited. DeVante Adams you wouldn't even remember that he

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Speaker 3: got traded to the New York Jets in that game.

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Speaker 3: The cornerbacks have and especially in Sean Murphy Bunting's absence

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Speaker 3: while he was injured, they did a really good job

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Speaker 3: locking these guys up. But DK Metcalf, as we talked

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Speaker 3: to John about, is a different beast, just his frame,

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Speaker 3: the physicality that he plays the game with. You sometimes

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Speaker 3: see some wide receivers and they don't like to get hit.

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Speaker 3: He embraces the contact. He has no problems trying to

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Speaker 3: run people over to get his way into the end zone.

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Speaker 3: I will say though, last year, Week eighteen, before the

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Speaker 3: game again the Arizona Cardinals. DK Metcalf stood up at

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Speaker 3: the podium and gave the Cardinals young cornerbacks Garrett Williams

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Speaker 3: Starling Thomas gave them their flowers and said that they're

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Speaker 3: a really good group out there. I think it's going

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Speaker 3: to What I'm looking forward to is seeing how they

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Speaker 3: have grown against competition that they have faced. Last year.

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Speaker 3: Starling Thomas didn't get the chance to line up against

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Speaker 3: a lot of the different Los Angeles Rams in that

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Speaker 3: Week six game when they were playing over there at

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Speaker 3: so far because he was still kind of getting his

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Speaker 3: feet under him. This game against the Seattle Seahawks, I'm

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Speaker 3: interested to see that jump from year one to year

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Speaker 3: two for a lot of these young guys.

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Speaker 1: The last three games Dolphins, Bears, Jets, those wide receivers,

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Speaker 1: those big name wide receivers, no touchdowns and this Cardinals

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Speaker 1: defense has alloted only three pass plays of twenty or

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Speaker 1: more yards. That's a huge improvement from how this season began,

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Speaker 1: when there were several plays of twenty or more yards,

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Speaker 1: those explosive plays which lead to shore drives and all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's easier for opponents to get into

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Speaker 1: the end zone. This Cardinals defense a pleasant surprise turning

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Speaker 1: the tables on that statistic, and all of a sudden, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: between the twenties, you can gain yards, but you get

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Speaker 1: inside that red zone. This Cardinals defense, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: is playing very good football to whether either allowing a

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Speaker 1: field goal or sometimes turnover on downs or just taking

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Speaker 1: the football away.

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Speaker 3: Ben don't break, Ben don't break. That's there. That's been

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Speaker 3: their motto. And you know you would. You would have

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Speaker 3: loved to do whatever you can to not even have

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Speaker 3: to Ben. You want to, but as you said, Craig,

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Speaker 3: you want to be able to, at the very minimum

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Speaker 3: limit them to three. And the Cardinals have done a

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Speaker 3: really solid job at that. The stat from nineteen twenty

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Speaker 3: six three consecutive home games not allowing a touchdown. But

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Speaker 3: now you're heading on the road. And another thing I'm

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Speaker 3: looking at is the pre snap penalties, because with a

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Speaker 3: place that is as allowed as Seattle can be, you

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Speaker 3: want to avoid that. And if Jonah Williams does get

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Speaker 3: the start, if Jonah Williams is active or is healthy

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Speaker 3: enough to play, that camaraderie along the offensive line is

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Speaker 3: not as strong because he hasn't had as much reps

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Speaker 3: with them.

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Speaker 1: Cardinals, least penalized team in the league, and as far

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Speaker 1: as the pre snap penalty defensively, I know a big

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Speaker 1: deal was made about Aaron Rodgers and that cadence and

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Speaker 1: the hard count and the defense did not flinch one bit.

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Speaker 1: Now that was a home game, yet at the same time,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is very good at drawing the defense off sides.

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Speaker 1: Different story on the road whether potentially might be a

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Speaker 1: factor as well. But and that's another thing about the

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Speaker 1: Twelves and Lumanfield. They pride themselves in getting a defense

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Speaker 1: to flinch or an offense to flinch. Yeah, when you're

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Speaker 1: able to make a legitimate impact on the game, that's

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Speaker 1: something that fan base is going to take as a

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Speaker 1: badge of honor.

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Speaker 3: And we also saw how quickly you mentioned how they're

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Speaker 3: the least penalized team in the NFL. But we also

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Speaker 3: saw a lot of those penalties came from one game

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Speaker 3: against the Green Bay Packers and ungod pretty sure it's

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Speaker 3: thirteen accepted penalties, sixteen in total. So when that is

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Speaker 3: the case, you can see how quickly that all can change.

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Speaker 3: In a place like Lumenfield, you want to be able

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Speaker 3: to keep that fan base silent by scoring often, scoring early,

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Speaker 3: and then ultimately getting on that flight back to the

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Speaker 3: valley with the win.

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Speaker 1: Neither one of us Zach are going to be on

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Speaker 1: a flight this weekend. We are not traveling to Seattle,

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Speaker 1: so we will be staying dry this weekend, and hopefully

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Speaker 1: everyone else that is making the trip that if it

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Speaker 1: does rain, it rains before kickoff and then after kickoff

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Speaker 1: and not during those three hours of game time.

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Speaker 3: Well, I would love for it to just not rain

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Speaker 3: in general for everybody's sake, so that the Cardinals could

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Speaker 3: play some good, clean ball. But I'll be on a

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Speaker 3: fight next week, so I won't be on Cardinals cover

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Speaker 3: two next What Thanksgiving? I gotta celebrate with the family. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I was thinking about It's my first Thanksgiving at home

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Speaker 3: in like four or five years, just because college and

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Speaker 3: work and stuff like that. So what happened to enjoy

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Speaker 3: this one?

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Speaker 1: What happened to team over you?

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Speaker 3: But a team is a family? Oh okay, you know

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Speaker 3: we're all family. And those people back at home, who

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Speaker 3: are they anyway? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Exactly, all right, So we'll have to adjust, is that

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Speaker 1: what you're telling me?

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Speaker 3: I've got a week to adjust. Got to adapt, adapt, improvise, adapt, overcome.

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Speaker 1: You didn't just come up with that on your own.

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Speaker 3: Now, that was saying I heard a long time ago.

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Speaker 1: Well I will see you next week. Yeah, just not

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Speaker 1: here on Cardinals coverage, I.

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Speaker 3: Missed the bird Gang on Covered Tone Okay, but they

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Speaker 3: could still read a lot of great coverage on Azycardinals

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Speaker 3: dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Very well done. Enjoy your Thanksgiving break, bird Gang, Enjoy

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Speaker 1: Week twelve. Cardinals at the Seahawks two twenty five is

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Speaker 1: the kickoff nine to thirty. Pre game coverage begins on

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. And on that note, we'll

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Speaker 1: put a lit on. This edition of Cardinals. Cover two,

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Speaker 1: presented by Hyundai, probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals, has

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Speaker 1: always special thanks to our executive producer Jim on One Hunter,

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Speaker 1: our associate producer Coodie Fincher for Zach Gershman, I'm Craig

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Speaker 1: Rayal Lou. We'll talk to you next time here on

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Speaker 1: Cardinal Discover two