Speaker 1: The Nicki Gleiser Podcast, Niki Glaser, here's.
Speaker 2: Nikki's Hello here I am It's the Nicki Glaizer Podcast. Welcome.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, what an episode we have for you today.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited in the room with me in London, Arizona.
Speaker 2: I don't know why I wanted to say episode in London. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because there's Paris, Texas in London, England. I almost forgot
Speaker 2: where London was. I'm not even joking here.
Speaker 3: I think the London Bridge might be in Arizona, Wyeah.
Speaker 4: That's correct. The London Bridge Ryan Frani from the eighteen
Speaker 4: hundreds is located in Lake Havasou, which is a lake
Speaker 4: on the border of Arashon. There in the eighteen hundreds
Speaker 4: the London Bridge was being rebuilt and they auctioned it
Speaker 4: off to a rich billionaire who lived in Lake Havasu
Speaker 4: and he brought it piece by piece and it was
Speaker 4: rebuilt in the nineteen sixties in Lake Havasu. So if
Speaker 4: you go to Arizona you can drive there in about
Speaker 4: five hours. From LA you can walk across the actual
Speaker 4: London Bridge from eighteen hundredth time.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, pretty amazing. He knows all that or
Speaker 2: that you knew that too. Yeah, little Encyclopedia Brown over there,
Speaker 2: that was so impressive. Brian, Fransie's here, and then I'm
Speaker 2: I'm in London with Anya Marina and Chris Convey, and
Speaker 2: then Noah is in Arizona and we got to London today.
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm trying to speak like this more
Speaker 2: because if I speak sultry or it protects my voice.
Speaker 2: And that's what my voice teacher taught me yesterday is
Speaker 2: that I just need to lean into being more sultry.
Speaker 3: It's not going to protect this relationship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, you guys are going to be
Speaker 2: throwing their dicks. And I was down the street talking
Speaker 2: like this, Excuse me, sir, where is the preta mange?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: Wait, block here there's a preta mage everywhere here them Brian.
Speaker 4: No, In fact, they have a bad memory with the
Speaker 4: Pretamanja because they sell these sandwiches and they have all
Speaker 4: their sandwiches aren't like a long piece of French bread.
Speaker 4: And I remember one time I was taking a class
Speaker 4: at UCB and I would bring a long, uh preta
Speaker 4: man sandwich.
Speaker 2: Every'd eat it throughout the whole class, bite like.
Speaker 4: Sort of But what I didn't realize is that secretly
Speaker 4: the rest of the class was judging me, because about
Speaker 4: five weeks into the class, I was eating it and
Speaker 4: then somebody, uh and then somebody, and I said, oh,
Speaker 4: is it? Is it bothering anybody that I'm eating the sandwich?
Speaker 4: And they said no, but I just think it's, uh,
Speaker 4: it's funny that you're eating an entire loaf of bread
Speaker 4: every week. And then everybody laughed like they'd all been
Speaker 4: talking about it.
Speaker 2: They were like, zip, zip, yes, it's very annoying.
Speaker 3: And then I had an intervention and said, you had
Speaker 3: bo oh my god.
Speaker 2: We're just talking about this. But I do like about
Speaker 2: after the fact, like you, it dawned on you after
Speaker 2: doing this eight weeks in a row, maybe I should
Speaker 2: check in.
Speaker 4: Eating a sandwich. It was they were They thought I
Speaker 4: was weird for eating an entire French bread. Look, but
Speaker 4: that's just the way the sandwiches are sold. It's not
Speaker 4: my fault.
Speaker 3: Well, we were just talking about that. The yesterday is
Speaker 3: like French people will just get a loaf of bread
Speaker 3: and eat that loaf of bread on the walk home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, with like nothing on it, because that's how good
Speaker 2: the bread bread.
Speaker 1: Is and Americans will get a loaf of bread and
Speaker 1: cry themselves to sleep and shame because I had a
Speaker 1: couple of fights.
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean Martha Stewart just said that she stopped
Speaker 2: eating bread to prepare for her Sports illustrated cover. Oh
Speaker 2: what's your take on that one?
Speaker 4: Ready?
Speaker 2: Don't even get me startling on it and go it's
Speaker 2: not empowering at all. It's uh, this is why they
Speaker 2: do four covers now, so they can like kind of
Speaker 2: tokenize the covers and like we'll give one to an
Speaker 2: old woman, We'll give one to someone who never would
Speaker 2: have a chance. This isn't This is a catalog that
Speaker 2: is for horny men to look at and masturbate too,
Speaker 2: and for women to look at and throw up too,
Speaker 2: or what like, you know, push them towards their eating disorders.
Speaker 2: This we know what this is. Stop trying to change
Speaker 2: what it is. It's supposed to make you feel bad
Speaker 2: about yourself as a woman. It's supposed to make you
Speaker 2: think I can never be that. And and they're trying
Speaker 2: to be like we're inclusive. Meanwhile, Anya's point yesterday was
Speaker 2: it's still not inclusive. Even eighty one year old Martha
Speaker 2: Stewart is not giving eight eighty one year old women
Speaker 2: don't stand a fucking chance. They sort of illustrate hates
Speaker 2: old women.
Speaker 1: She's had come on multiple surgeries to look that fantastic.
Speaker 1: She looks fantastic. She looks like a she looks great,
Speaker 1: like a thirty seven year old woman.
Speaker 2: Hey, easy, take offense to that. I mean that shit
Speaker 2: is tight. Yeah, she looks great. But this is not
Speaker 2: This is not something she said. She's up eating bread
Speaker 2: and she started going to pilates every other day, and
Speaker 2: I'm sure she did do those things, but that's not
Speaker 2: the whole story. And it's not a story of like empowering.
Speaker 2: This is telling women, if you get surgery and fight
Speaker 2: aging and do all of these things, then maybe we'll
Speaker 2: consider you for the cover. But it's pandering to me.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, there's a woman naked across the Woe bra.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she doesn't know we can see her.
Speaker 2: Oh she does, Martha Stewart, she totally does. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean she looks her age.
Speaker 1: She's the European.
Speaker 2: She's like, oh god, they're podcasting over there. I want
Speaker 2: to close a window. Thirty jackals with.
Speaker 1: A microphone just like glaring out the window with their
Speaker 1: tongues out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean any other takes that we have
Speaker 2: on the Martha Stewart thing.
Speaker 3: Well, the thing abouts me is, I mean, at some point,
Speaker 3: you know, an aging woman does get to be like,
Speaker 3: I'm just like, I've I have wrinkles. I'm like, I
Speaker 3: don't need to try to be hot. And I think
Speaker 3: Martha Stewart has kicked this can down the road and
Speaker 3: now we can never give out. Seventy five year old
Speaker 3: women are like, now I gotta I gotta chase Martha
Speaker 3: Stewart down.
Speaker 2: I just want to. I can't wait to ease into turtlenecks. Right,
Speaker 2: I've uncovered something new.
Speaker 3: Yeah, isn't there a time where people should just be
Speaker 3: able to like give in to their.
Speaker 2: Aging Yes, yes, yes, And but you're never off the
Speaker 2: clock now, you're always you are always on guard for
Speaker 2: like you could be hot, there could be something you
Speaker 2: could do. You're never allowed to just be and yeah,
Speaker 2: so it for me, I was just kind of rolling
Speaker 2: my eyes when I saw it. It was not like, yes,
Speaker 2: it's so cool they put an older woman on there.
Speaker 2: If you fell for that, good for you. You're falling
Speaker 2: for this is this is old men trying to figure
Speaker 2: out how to make money because it's get pressed.
Speaker 3: So she's she said, surgery obviously like face stuff. Then
Speaker 3: she like incredible lighting I'm sure on that shoot, and
Speaker 3: then airbrush retouched.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's not a single crease on her chest.
Speaker 2: There's not anything on chef. That's what I was ideal,
Speaker 2: regular one year olds. No, but I will say that
Speaker 2: every time Camille Caustic is on Sports Illustrated swimsuit cover,
Speaker 2: it makes me feel great because she is a full
Speaker 2: figured gal that is not that makes me feel like
Speaker 2: really good and doesn't seem to be trying to be
Speaker 2: anything other than herself. And she's someone who I follow
Speaker 2: and it gives me great self esteem because she's like
Speaker 2: the hottest girl going. And look, Chris is looking me up. Now, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're gonna like this. You're gonna like what you see.
Speaker 1: Padma is also in Sports Illustrated.
Speaker 2: Oh, Padma looks great. Padma is just Padma is you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, so it's Camille, but Padma is other worldly.
Speaker 2: She's just so so, you know, she's supermodel. It just
Speaker 2: doesn't you know, they're aliens. We're not supposed to be
Speaker 2: able to look at like them. But don't you like that?
Speaker 2: Is Thatkowski's Gronkowski costa is broadcast and she's like an
Speaker 2: acquaintance of mine. We're friendly.
Speaker 1: Who is this person?
Speaker 2: Click on that? This is what I'm talking about. This
Speaker 2: makes me feel good.
Speaker 1: I don't know this. Is she a model or does
Speaker 1: she do anything else? She's just she's very sweet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's really nice.
Speaker 1: I'm the only person that doesn't know she was.
Speaker 2: That's how I know about her. Yeah, we did a
Speaker 2: dance to Taylor Swift one time together with Andrew.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, okay, oh I saw a video of that.
Speaker 2: That was the thing.
Speaker 4: I like Ronkowski?
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you?
Speaker 4: I like retired Rob. I hated him when he played
Speaker 4: because he always defeated my teams, but I like him.
Speaker 4: I like his persona post NFL, the goofy. Yeah, he's
Speaker 4: in on the joke.
Speaker 2: It seems cool. I like their relationship.
Speaker 1: Can we hit the sports talk bumper really quick?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 1: I do love it when you guys have a brief.
Speaker 4: He does the USA commercials where he tries to get
Speaker 4: the insurance from the military and they say you can't
Speaker 4: because you've never been in the military, and he was like,
Speaker 4: oh man, been geez Jesus you were.
Speaker 2: You witnessed other ads than I do miss the Michelin
Speaker 2: Man or whatever the hell it was last time the Mitch.
Speaker 2: I totally miss that we're in London, even today when
Speaker 2: we were I think we were in Vienna and we
Speaker 2: were headed to the airport and there was like a
Speaker 2: ref whistle, like you could hear it on the radio.
Speaker 2: Our driver was listening to it, and I almost asked Chris.
Speaker 2: We were in the middle of conversation, so I didn't,
Speaker 2: but I wanted to be like, is did that? Like
Speaker 2: did your mouth start watering? Just like there's whistles going
Speaker 2: off and there's some sports somewhere.
Speaker 3: I do miss watching stuff because I couldn't watch any
Speaker 3: of the NBA playoff games. We couldn't get them over. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and we weren't going to like a bar or anything,
Speaker 3: so yeah, I mean there's there's a certain amount of
Speaker 3: like we went to a bar, did we?
Speaker 2: Yeah? In my hotel, our hotel, remember, No, we came
Speaker 2: back from the show, and no, we came back. I
Speaker 2: don't know where we came back from. And no, I
Speaker 2: ordered you fries and we were waiting for uber eats, remember,
Speaker 2: and then the guy we tried to find him and
Speaker 2: then you got the fries. Then we got in the
Speaker 2: elevator and I was like, oh, that woman singing in
Speaker 2: the lounge was pretty cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I loved that. This was yeah I remember that.
Speaker 2: Okay. So in our hotel in Berlin, there was like
Speaker 2: a lounge and on Saturday night there was like this
Speaker 2: woman who was like it was honestly like Anya in
Speaker 2: ten years if she wanted to be. It was like
Speaker 2: this cool woman, blonde woman playing electric guitar, but like
Speaker 2: really jazzy, cool, like beautiful guitar.
Speaker 3: And we were listening for like ten minutes in the
Speaker 3: hotel lobby. We couldn't see her. She was in like
Speaker 3: this bar area.
Speaker 2: We just kind of heard someone singing or like we
Speaker 2: just cool songs. And then we walked by because we
Speaker 2: had to walk by the bar to get to the
Speaker 2: Uber Eats because he went around the corner and I
Speaker 2: walked by and I go, oh my god, like that's
Speaker 2: that's what I want to do. I want to play
Speaker 2: like guitar in a bar, like by myself, with no band,
Speaker 2: no one to judge, just voice guitar. Love it. And
Speaker 2: then we were getting back in the elevator and I
Speaker 2: was like, man, that's what I like. I love that woman.
Speaker 2: I just want to do that. And Chris is like,
Speaker 2: you want to go back to the watch, and I
Speaker 2: was like yeah, And so we went in to eat
Speaker 2: his fur eyes and we sat down and.
Speaker 3: Nick He's like, this is the this is what I
Speaker 3: want to be doing, Like, this is the life.
Speaker 2: Was so cool and it was just she was playing
Speaker 2: all over the neck like she was doing things that
Speaker 2: I could never do and that I don't I don't
Speaker 2: really aspire to be like doing. You know, I don't noodling.
Speaker 2: I just kind of like strumming. That word is to.
Speaker 1: It's actually called shreddings listening it's shredding.
Speaker 2: She was not, but she was. She was like gently
Speaker 2: ripping instead of shredding, like you know, like it was
Speaker 2: just gentle. It was just so jazzy and you could
Speaker 2: just tell she was.
Speaker 3: Like very.
Speaker 2: Elite, drained, yes, and she just was cool. And then
Speaker 2: like she won song alone, No Bad fifty five.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was like we are mid to late fifties.
Speaker 3: Just she just seemed cool.
Speaker 4: Pretty we sit down now where she's like hired to
Speaker 4: be Yeah, so she.
Speaker 3: Was hired by the hotel. She was right when you
Speaker 3: walk in and we sit down and we're like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is gonna be great. Will you do this for
Speaker 3: We can do this for a long time. She's having
Speaker 3: a drink and she's like playing cool. She played it,
Speaker 3: She's just playing a cool song.
Speaker 2: They brought some nuts. I was fishing out the ones
Speaker 2: that like were green, that have like the coating around
Speaker 2: the nut, because I don't really like peanuts. I was
Speaker 2: eating the coating, you know, there's like Asian.
Speaker 3: But then she put everything that was in her hand
Speaker 3: back in there, and I suspect that they brought that
Speaker 3: to another table.
Speaker 2: That's on them.
Speaker 3: I don't have evidence. I remember when it was happening.
Speaker 2: I didn't want the peanuts, but I didn't want him
Speaker 2: because the waiter already hated me, and so I didn't
Speaker 2: want him to hate me more with a little pile
Speaker 2: of peanuts. So I just go, I'm throwing them back in.
Speaker 2: Yeah that guy sucked, Yeah he didn't like us.
Speaker 3: So we sit down and we're like this, this woman's amazing,
Speaker 3: This is so exciting. This is nick This is Nicki's
Speaker 3: future in front of us, where like this is awesome
Speaker 3: and we're sort of like dreaming about this woman's life
Speaker 3: in a way. But then the song ends and she goes,
Speaker 3: I'm going on a break.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh God, damn it.
Speaker 3: And then because we don't want to wait, like, you know,
Speaker 3: thirty minutes or fifteen.
Speaker 2: Minutes, we had just gotten there. It's the end of
Speaker 2: the night. We were already ready to go to bed,
Speaker 2: so we go, Okay, we'll back up and go.
Speaker 3: So she goes to the bar and gets a drink
Speaker 3: and then walks not.
Speaker 2: Just a drink, it's a tower terror. It was a
Speaker 2: tower of beer, like a giant beer. And I even
Speaker 2: commented like, wow, she's a German woman. Like she was
Speaker 2: just treating herself, you know. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is like the life. Yes, she's gonna like treat
Speaker 2: herself to this delicious beer. She's worked hard now and
Speaker 2: she's gonna come back from break and be a little
Speaker 2: bit looser, and like she just owns this place. It
Speaker 2: was so cool.
Speaker 3: So then we had to settle up because we decided
Speaker 3: to leave. So we settled up. It took us like
Speaker 3: a few minutes, and we leave the bar and we
Speaker 3: walk into the lobby area and we see her humongous
Speaker 3: beer on the table.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I go, oh my god, she's right there.
Speaker 2: And then we passed by and she is looks despondent.
Speaker 2: I mean, she looks like she is this is what
Speaker 2: she late laid back in.
Speaker 3: Her head and she's got her hand on her head, like,
Speaker 3: what is what is becoming.
Speaker 2: Of my life? I hate my life?
Speaker 1: This is like the opening of White Lotus Berlin.
Speaker 2: Yes, and it totally was. But it was so funny
Speaker 2: to us because I had just romanticized her so much
Speaker 2: and she was just miserable. And then I go, oh
Speaker 2: my god, that's what so many people think of my
Speaker 2: life as that. And then I'm like and it was
Speaker 2: just you can't win ever.
Speaker 1: Grass is always greener on the other side a little bit.
Speaker 2: I don't want to there you go, we need to
Speaker 2: see that beautiful mug. Yeah, So it was it was
Speaker 2: really cool to see. And then it was like it
Speaker 2: was also cool to just see like I just was like, God,
Speaker 2: if I could play guitar like that, I would never
Speaker 2: be sad again. You ever say that to yourself? Things?
Speaker 2: Of course, like what you're saying.
Speaker 1: If I could play piano like that, if I could
Speaker 1: speak French like that, if I could earn money like that, yeah.
Speaker 4: But I don't believe any of those things will make
Speaker 4: me never sad again or happy. I mean, if I could.
Speaker 4: I have a lot of goals. I have my forty
Speaker 4: under forty, and one of them is playing piano for
Speaker 4: thirty minutes, for thirty minutes in front of strangers without
Speaker 4: being asked and have them not be annoyed.
Speaker 2: That's one of my But you won't know until the
Speaker 2: fourth improv class when they finally tell you, yeah, so
Speaker 2: we do want to get to this. So forty under forty, Brian,
Speaker 2: this is your forty things you want to do before
Speaker 2: you turn forty. How old are you now?
Speaker 4: Thirty five?
Speaker 2: Five five years? Can we here's some of the things
Speaker 2: you've already accomplished from this list, because they do run
Speaker 2: the gamut a very simple to like bake a cake
Speaker 2: to yes, yes, impossible ones.
Speaker 4: I recommend everybody do it because what it does is
Speaker 4: when you turn a milestone age or any age, you
Speaker 4: turn that age and then a lot of times you
Speaker 4: get really sad. But if you look back at all
Speaker 4: the things you did, you can say, well, I did
Speaker 4: all the things I said I was going to do.
Speaker 4: I lived my life correctly exactly how I planned it
Speaker 4: as long as you do all the coals, which you
Speaker 4: might fail them all and then you'd be really so,
Speaker 4: what are some of them? Well, I could pull it up.
Speaker 4: I have my list right here, Glazy.
Speaker 3: You should think about yours, and Aya, everybody should think
Speaker 3: about what theirs should have been.
Speaker 2: Right, because we have people past forty here too. I think, yeah, three.
Speaker 4: Will you do forty five? And then you do fifty?
Speaker 4: Under fifty?
Speaker 2: Okay? Going up?
Speaker 4: Oh right, damn it's hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so let's hear some of yours, Brian.
Speaker 4: I break it down into categories. I have career, hobby, travel, baking,
Speaker 4: I don't know why that's a whole category, and life
Speaker 4: to life.
Speaker 2: I would like to pick life for five hundred, Alex.
Speaker 4: Okay, life for five hundred. One of them that I've
Speaker 4: did in twenty twenty one is ride a horse.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you'd never ridden a horse?
Speaker 4: I don't know, not recently, not that I remember. So
Speaker 4: I wanted to ride a horse again. Yeah, so I
Speaker 4: rode a horse. I did it, and man, do I
Speaker 4: feel happy?
Speaker 3: Have you ever ridden a horse?
Speaker 2: Yeah? When I was like a kid, and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: It is a majestic animal. And did it? What did
Speaker 1: it feel like to And first of all, why did
Speaker 1: that go on your list? Second of all, how did
Speaker 1: you feel after? Did you feel like you thought you
Speaker 1: would feel?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Why why did the horse go on your list when
Speaker 2: you were making this list? Do you see a horse
Speaker 2: on TV and go that would sad that I met
Speaker 2: thirty nine? I don't know what else to put on you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw the horse that I said it would
Speaker 4: be nice to ride that thing. I didn't feel.
Speaker 1: It's different than what I imagined. He's like perving on
Speaker 1: a horse that's a good looking animal.
Speaker 4: That's what I meant. That's what I meant my ride.
Speaker 2: So why did you want to ride a horse?
Speaker 4: I I just felt like, honestly, it was one of
Speaker 4: those things that I felt like if I was a
Speaker 4: guy who had ridden a horse before, I'd be all right.
Speaker 2: Like I felt like one of the things that it's
Speaker 2: going to solve by promising, Okay, we're gonna hear more
Speaker 2: about this list when we get back from the break,
Speaker 2: because there's there's thirty nine things to get to and
Speaker 2: we'll get to at least three more, and we'll also
Speaker 2: share our goals as well, which I just read the
Speaker 2: subtle art of not giving a fuck, and a big
Speaker 2: part of that is just never making goals. So this
Speaker 2: refutes everything I just spent a lot of time learning.
Speaker 2: So we'll talk about all that when we get back
Speaker 2: live from London. Then Nicky Lazer back again. All right,
Speaker 2: we're back. Brian just revealed that he's doing a forty
Speaker 2: under forty forty things he wants to accomlished before he
Speaker 2: turns forty. He's thirty five. Now he could be president.
Speaker 2: That's the that's the last accomplishment you can have.
Speaker 3: That's the last milestone. Sto for age like, yeah, vote
Speaker 3: twenty one, retirement, rental.
Speaker 2: Car, Yes, retirement. Also, your voice stops maturing at thirty five.
Speaker 2: Up your voice matures. Maybe that has to do with
Speaker 2: the president thing. They're like, we don't want someone like
Speaker 2: squeak in up there, but you can.
Speaker 1: Always make your voice more mature.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm trying to because I've been having vocal strain
Speaker 2: recently and I spent a lot of money on fixing it.
Speaker 1: It's the tone of this podcast.
Speaker 4: I know everyone's more chilled out, more chill I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't know why you.
Speaker 2: Ris is giving me.
Speaker 1: Minutes and then I was like, I need to take
Speaker 1: it down enough.
Speaker 2: Chris is giving me major as marm Yeah yeah really,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, you have like a very soothing boy.
Speaker 4: Voice is double soothing today it's not. It really is
Speaker 4: double soothing, double.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because normally it's soothing, but today.
Speaker 3: It double yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the same. Please tell me his voice is the same.
Speaker 4: You're the only one that's not putting on a soothing tone.
Speaker 4: You're you're the same as always.
Speaker 2: Listen, this is my path, this is my journey. I
Speaker 2: don't want anything to touch us. I need I need
Speaker 2: everyone to remain calm. I'll go back to the way
Speaker 2: it was before. But having to do I'm not used
Speaker 2: to talking all day.
Speaker 1: I thought Michael taught us like to be up here
Speaker 1: like hi.
Speaker 2: No, it's supposed to be relaxed, just supposed to be open,
Speaker 2: nothing relaxed. So this is the this is what is
Speaker 2: the least amount of nothing in my throat is happening.
Speaker 2: The air is just being pushed at. It's like a slide.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: The slide doesn't have to do any work for you
Speaker 2: to fly down.
Speaker 1: That's what he told us to do.
Speaker 2: You go. The way to relax mostly to get your
Speaker 2: best voice to sound good is to do what I found,
Speaker 2: because he was like just totally and I was like,
Speaker 2: he was like, what it looks like? And I go
Speaker 2: a stroke victim, and he started laughing. I go, what
Speaker 2: else am I supposed to say? That's exactly what it
Speaker 2: looks like I found for you.
Speaker 4: Well, sorry, I just thought because you talked about your
Speaker 4: tongue or something. I saw picture of you on your
Speaker 4: on your Instagram where you had a bunch of pills
Speaker 4: from like a pharmacy and one of them was magnesium. Yeah,
Speaker 4: why are you taking that?
Speaker 2: Because old glaized dog was stopped up. I looked about
Speaker 2: six months pregnant, and I even showed Chris I had
Speaker 2: a towel around it because he couldn't see my bare stomach.
Speaker 2: But I go, babe, look look, and I stuck out
Speaker 2: my stomach and I go, we could give an announcement
Speaker 2: right now and no one would question it. No one.
Speaker 2: It would be I could go to the clinic and
Speaker 2: go aboard this and they'd go, it's too late. Even
Speaker 2: my laugh is like supposed to no, but it's supposed
Speaker 2: to help you be regular.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're ever constipated.
Speaker 2: I want to be special, not regular. I want my
Speaker 2: boops to be. Chris does not like potty talk, So
Speaker 2: we're going to move back on to Wait, what I
Speaker 2: was gonna say about my voice? So he was telling
Speaker 2: me to sing the best to make it so, because
Speaker 2: the best sound is like when you're like totally relaxed,
Speaker 2: and I couldn't do it. I was just like, I
Speaker 2: kid this this because he's going like this, like this,
Speaker 2: and I was going like and then I realized it's
Speaker 2: when I'm doing a dumb guy voice. And so whenever
Speaker 2: I'm singing and I feel tension, I always go to
Speaker 2: like I'm imitating a dumb guy, and then I start
Speaker 2: to sound.
Speaker 1: About to bar right, like about to bar yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And so that's some That's how I'm gonna sound like
Speaker 1: a del someday.
Speaker 2: So what were we talking about?
Speaker 4: This is crazy coincidence. Two days ago, I took magnesium
Speaker 4: for the first time ever. I didn't see her Instagram thing.
Speaker 4: God Ali saw it and she told me Nick, he's
Speaker 4: got magnesium, And I said, what are you talking about? Magnesium?
Speaker 2: Did you take magnesium?
Speaker 4: I took magnesium because it's supposed to help you sleep.
Speaker 4: It's supposed to relax you before bed, help you.
Speaker 1: Take it at night.
Speaker 2: Supposed to sleep.
Speaker 4: Yes, didn't work. No, it made me jittery. It made
Speaker 4: me jittery and anxious. Because do you do melatonin?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: I I haven't done melatonin no ever.
Speaker 1: Never put that on the list.
Speaker 2: Bit Well that's where you start, Brian, don't put it
Speaker 2: in magnesium. Melatonin actually works. And I know they are
Speaker 2: listeners going, no, it makes you groggy, It doesn't work.
Speaker 2: It does work. I hate it, love it, stand you.
Speaker 2: Melatonin the number one thing, Chris? Sorry, what was that?
Speaker 4: It's so stupid? Because I was I was I was
Speaker 4: finally feeling fine. I had been sleeping fine for like
Speaker 4: the last two days, and then I was like, I said,
Speaker 4: I was going to take the magnesium, so let me
Speaker 4: just take it, and then it messed me up. But
Speaker 4: it's like, if you're feeling fine, don't take anything, just
Speaker 4: let it. Let yourself be fine till you feel shitty again.
Speaker 4: You don't have to fix problems that aren't there all
Speaker 4: the time.
Speaker 2: Right, I do that too. What what is that where you?
Speaker 2: Because it's not comfortable feeling good. We're not used to
Speaker 2: feeling good.
Speaker 4: Right, you can't believe you feel like you didn't do
Speaker 4: enough work to feel good. So you have to do something. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's perfectionism, was what it is.
Speaker 2: Well, Chris and I couldn't get to sleep last night.
Speaker 2: We were both doing the thing of like I would
Speaker 2: think he was asleep, and I always play white Noise
Speaker 2: and so I wouldn't hear yeah, cold.
Speaker 3: Play and liked it.
Speaker 2: I was on my side of the bed, you know,
Speaker 2: the pillow wall was up. I couldn't really see what
Speaker 2: was happening over in East Berlin, and so.
Speaker 5: I'm west bl okay, okay, I don't know what it means,
Speaker 5: but I was like and then I suddenly it got
Speaker 5: to be pretty late, and I go, oh, my god,
Speaker 5: I see I saw his little phone glowing in.
Speaker 2: The night, and I was like, oh, he's starting a
Speaker 2: little fire over there. Like I could see that there
Speaker 2: was life, and I was like, oh my god, why
Speaker 2: aren't we asleep and we're just because we're both on
Speaker 2: our phones. And then I go, you know what I'm
Speaker 2: gonna do. I'm gonna do what I heard and a
Speaker 2: stand up bit, because it always I love when stand
Speaker 2: up like changes the way you operate. And Shang Wang
Speaker 2: has this bit that I only saw on a clip.
Speaker 2: Did you see this? Noah I'm not sure. I don't
Speaker 2: think so you're no in your head, so I thought,
Speaker 2: but you must know who Shangwang is. He's a great comic,
Speaker 2: but he's uh, he's got a special out and he
Speaker 2: was talking about he was like, you ever try to
Speaker 2: read a book? He was like, man, that shit makes
Speaker 2: you so tired. He's like, there's twenty milligrams of militonin
Speaker 2: on every page. And I was like, ye, there is
Speaker 2: never a time that I don't get sleepy when I
Speaker 2: read a book. Why am I trying to do anything
Speaker 2: else when I'm tired at night? Just grab a fucking book,
Speaker 2: right And I fell this in so last night I go,
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm doing. Chris, I'm reading a
Speaker 2: book and I was out in two minutes.
Speaker 3: Yes, I was reading for like three hours.
Speaker 1: You doesn't always work.
Speaker 2: Chris is reading a book right now, and I loved
Speaker 2: because it's on his kindle and I just like to
Speaker 2: look over over when you're sitting next to each other.
Speaker 3: I've actually changed the font to like being smaller so
Speaker 3: it's harder for you to spot words.
Speaker 2: Well, he reads like Game of Thrones books and Lord
Speaker 2: of Rings, and I just like to look over because
Speaker 2: there is never there's never a page that seems normal.
Speaker 2: It's always like and then Gladiil flew through the night,
Speaker 2: and then the Crusaders cloaked themselves. There's always works like
Speaker 2: cloaked and and she yes, old yes, I mean, will
Speaker 2: you do kindle on hand? Will you go grab it?
Speaker 2: Because I just look at one page of your Nightfall book?
Speaker 2: What are you reading? What's it called?
Speaker 1: So people who are interested, that's a classic?
Speaker 3: No, I forget what it's called because it's it used
Speaker 3: to be three smaller.
Speaker 1: Like of the Rings and Goblin.
Speaker 2: I know what you mean. I know it was like.
Speaker 3: Three novellas they combined to make one one book.
Speaker 2: But do you ever start laughing when you read a word?
Speaker 2: Because you could see me making fun of you. Because
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get you to start just laughing when
Speaker 2: you read it because it's so funny.
Speaker 3: I just angle further away from you.
Speaker 2: I just like to make fun of your feels.
Speaker 3: Like I'm like looking at like other girls Instagram. What
Speaker 3: are you doing there? I'm like nothing.
Speaker 2: One time reading about dunk and eggs. For the other day,
Speaker 2: I couldn't stop laughing. I was laughing sword because I
Speaker 2: looked over and there was like a picture with like
Speaker 2: a griffin and in the wind that looked like Florence
Speaker 2: in the machine, and it was just like it was
Speaker 2: the most It was like, it's just so cute to
Speaker 2: see your boyfriend read about like these like other worlds
Speaker 2: where like dragons exist. It's just so cute. It's like
Speaker 2: when I call your f one racing your room rooms.
Speaker 2: I just like to infantilize these things that I don't understand,
Speaker 2: and I'm jealous that I can't yell get into them.
Speaker 1: I want to. I'm dying to be swept up into
Speaker 1: a book. Take me out of this fucked.
Speaker 2: Up realm that's keeping his books, Like realm is another word.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you so you're reading the same thing.
Speaker 1: It's been so long since. I'm like, I can't wait
Speaker 1: to get back to my book.
Speaker 2: I have to do a start one. All you have
Speaker 2: to do is just talk to a friend who you
Speaker 2: trust and say, what book is I going to? I
Speaker 2: did that.
Speaker 1: I read Colleen Hoover's Thing. I got through thirty or
Speaker 1: forty pages and I gave up. I'm just like the
Speaker 1: phone has ruined my attention span. That's way more interesting
Speaker 1: on my phone than the book.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get through the biography, the autobiography of
Speaker 3: Mark Twain, and I mean every single time, I'm like,
Speaker 3: I got to get back to that realm.
Speaker 1: Yes, dragons, and I do love a non fictional I
Speaker 1: love a memoir. Like I read Prince Harry's Thing. That
Speaker 1: was the last thing I read.
Speaker 2: Let's ago and that you were kept. That's pretty good, right,
Speaker 2: It was pretty good a long book. If you didn't
Speaker 2: like it, you wouldn't have gone, Oh wait, that doesn't count.
Speaker 1: That was an audiobook.
Speaker 4: If you don't want to go back to reading the book,
Speaker 4: if you're not itching to go read it, then just
Speaker 4: let it go.
Speaker 2: You'll have this weird thing about they got to finish
Speaker 2: anything they start, and I think that discourages reading, because.
Speaker 1: It's the same with raising children. If you're not into
Speaker 1: it and give it on, just gimme.
Speaker 3: I think Nick Hornby said that. I think I think
Speaker 3: it was Nick Hornby. He was just like, if you
Speaker 3: don't like a book, you've got to quit it because
Speaker 3: reading should be fun and reading should be enjoyable. You
Speaker 3: should be wanting to do it. So if you like
Speaker 3: are dreading it, you need to quit that book.
Speaker 1: Immediately opposite advice for songwriters. I've heard multiple times if
Speaker 1: you start a song, no matter what, just finish it, really,
Speaker 1: even if it's a shitty just finish it. And I
Speaker 1: find that to be good advice, Like, you know, you
Speaker 1: can make it a verse and a chorus and then
Speaker 1: you're done, but just try to finish it.
Speaker 3: That's something I could put in my forty under fifty
Speaker 3: write a song.
Speaker 2: I know for sure. Let's get back to your list, bro.
Speaker 4: I have a fun game about books that you can
Speaker 4: play if you're sitting next to somebody reading. What I
Speaker 4: do to Ali is I will look ahead to like
Speaker 4: the end of this of the last page, I'll find
Speaker 4: a word. It'll be like balloon, and then I'll just
Speaker 4: whisper in her ear balloon and she won't know why.
Speaker 4: But then like two minutes later, she'll get to the
Speaker 4: word and then she'll laugh.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's clever.
Speaker 2: Do something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I did something like that in college. My
Speaker 3: so I would leave, I would go to the I
Speaker 3: would go to the library. I would go to the
Speaker 3: library and I would leave like notes in books, or
Speaker 3: write on pages, or just find a random book in
Speaker 3: the library and where I went to college at University Missouri,
Speaker 3: and I would write messages or something in them and
Speaker 3: I would know what they were, and usually I would
Speaker 3: do it specifically to people just to like mess with them,
Speaker 3: or or like I did it to my girlfriend at
Speaker 3: the time, and I would say like, hey, go get
Speaker 3: this book. Find this book and turn to page you know,
Speaker 3: like seventy four and there would be like either have
Speaker 3: a note in there, or I would like circle words
Speaker 3: that that created a note like something for.
Speaker 1: Them, and positive pranks.
Speaker 4: You made his life. He's probably talking about that all
Speaker 4: the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: People were just like, how did you do that? He's
Speaker 3: just like, yeah, you know, I just thought about something
Speaker 3: that create a little bit in advance.
Speaker 4: I used to have a shed. I used to have
Speaker 4: a shed in my backyard that was there before my
Speaker 4: parents bought the house. And on the inside of the
Speaker 4: shed someone wrote a treasure map, and a treasure map
Speaker 4: was written down, and we followed the treasure map, uh,
Speaker 4: and it led to a rabbit's grave.
Speaker 1: I knew it.
Speaker 2: I knew it.
Speaker 1: I knew it was going to be a dead animal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, why is that a Russian thing?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Just to assume the worst yes, Oh yeah, assume the
Speaker 1: darkest thing.
Speaker 2: A few years later, frozen We have so many dead
Speaker 2: apples buried frozen out.
Speaker 4: I brought my friend over. This is like the elementary
Speaker 4: school or before middle school or something, and I said,
Speaker 4: there was a treasure map. I found a treasure map,
Speaker 4: and I had I had. I had went to the
Speaker 4: rabbit's grave area and changed the treasure map of us
Speaker 4: to be not at the rabbit's grave. And I buried
Speaker 4: a little chest that had a chicken McNuggets box in
Speaker 4: it and a single penny in the chicken McNuggets box.
Speaker 4: And we spent four hours following the treasure map. Uh.
Speaker 4: And we we found the spot and like we got
Speaker 4: a dig and we just and we dug and then
Speaker 4: he's like, oh my god, there's something here. In the
Speaker 4: whole time, I'm pretending like this is the first time
Speaker 4: I've ever seen anything.
Speaker 2: You like giving gifts, Brian, Are you like really into
Speaker 2: gift giving?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I like giving gifts. I don't like receipts.
Speaker 2: Because you knew the whole time what the surprise was,
Speaker 2: but you were getting off on the idea, not off,
Speaker 2: but you were like I did the fact that this
Speaker 2: guy was going to find something that you already knew existed,
Speaker 2: so you weren't being excited about finding a thing and
Speaker 2: being like what is it?
Speaker 4: Well, it was like a whole I thought it was
Speaker 4: gonna be funny that he's like, it's going to be treasure,
Speaker 4: and it's a treasure chest. Then he opens it and
Speaker 4: it's a Chicken mischen nuggets box with a penny in it.
Speaker 4: Four hours like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: The books I'm reading right now that I will never
Speaker 2: finish is The Art of Impossible, a peak performance primer
Speaker 2: by Steven Cotler. It actually is very good and it
Speaker 2: just teaches you how to do things that are impossible,
Speaker 2: like really impossible that you know, NASA even says you're
Speaker 2: not gonna be able to build a space shuttle that
Speaker 2: you can reuse twice to go to the moon, and
Speaker 2: then this guy fucking did it. And it shows you
Speaker 2: just a map of how you want to do anything
Speaker 2: kind of physical feats or you know, any kind of
Speaker 2: thing you want to do. Then the power of your
Speaker 2: subconscious mind that is blowing my mind. That is a
Speaker 2: really good one. It's so hard for me though, because
Speaker 2: you have to constantly pretty much the whole PREMI says
Speaker 2: is that your subconscious mind is kind of stupid and
Speaker 2: doesn't no irony, It doesn't no joking, it doesn't. It doesn't. Ever,
Speaker 2: it takes everything you tell it seriously. So it's constantly
Speaker 2: listening to your conscious mind. So whatever you're saying to
Speaker 2: yourself about yourself, about the world, your subconscious mind is
Speaker 2: going like, that's the way it is, and we're going
Speaker 2: to proceed that way. So if you're like, I'm an idiot,
Speaker 2: I'm an idiot, your subconscious mind is always going to
Speaker 2: direct you in the way that you're an idiot. So
Speaker 2: if you lie to it constantly, it doesn't know you're lying.
Speaker 2: If you're like I'm a you know, I've been recently
Speaker 2: just saying to myself, you're the best singer in the
Speaker 2: whole world, because like I'm I'm God's gift to music.
Speaker 2: I've been literally saying the most delusional things to it recently,
Speaker 2: just so that I can trick it into then making
Speaker 2: that happen. And it's almost He's talked about how they've
Speaker 2: studied people that have had their optic nerves completely severed,
Speaker 2: and the people have believed enough that they have sight
Speaker 2: that doctors are confounded that they're able to see when
Speaker 2: their optic nerve does not even attach to their eye,
Speaker 2: but they're able to see again because their subconscious mind
Speaker 2: is really in charge of everything. But I like the
Speaker 2: idea that it's like a dumb idiot and it takes
Speaker 2: everything you say completely seriously, so you can never It's
Speaker 2: really hard for me, someone who talks negatively to themselves
Speaker 2: almost all the time, to then stop it and go like,
Speaker 2: oh no. It's almost like being around a child and
Speaker 2: like cussing around a kid and being like, I can
Speaker 2: fuck up that kid's whole life if I say the
Speaker 2: wrong thing, and it's going to set it off on
Speaker 2: this weird course. So it's it really is interesting though, Brian.
Speaker 2: Have you read about this kind of stuff?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: I know all about it. I mean yeah, it's like
Speaker 4: it's like drags from Guardians of the Galaxy For anybody
Speaker 4: who knows what I'm talking.
Speaker 2: About, what I am grew?
Speaker 4: What is it? Yeah, he doesn't understand sarcasm. So if
Speaker 4: you go, that went over my head and you'd be like,
Speaker 4: nothing would go over my head. I would catch it
Speaker 4: like that type of thing.
Speaker 2: Yes, But do you know about that being like your
Speaker 2: subconscious mind is really stupid. It's smarter than that. It like,
Speaker 2: you know what they compared it to, which I like
Speaker 2: this analogy. If there's a ship cap in captain, and
Speaker 2: then there's someone within the hall of the ship that
Speaker 2: can't see anything outside of what's happening, what are you
Speaker 2: about to say?
Speaker 4: Christ That's what I was thinking, because you said cap
Speaker 4: is it captain?
Speaker 3: Crunch ships colloquial.
Speaker 2: Boat talk coming through. So the captain's upstairs, and then
Speaker 2: your subconscious mind is in the hall of the ship,
Speaker 2: and that's the one that's doing the oars, that's the
Speaker 2: one that's putting the coal into the fucking It can't
Speaker 2: see out the window. It has no idea. So if
Speaker 2: the captain is telling it, like, you know, go this way,
Speaker 2: there's no way for it to go, Like are we
Speaker 2: really supposed to go that way? Is there not an
Speaker 2: iceberg coming? It just will do it. So you have
Speaker 2: to think of your subconscious mind as always taking direction
Speaker 2: from your your conscious mind, and you've got to make
Speaker 2: sure your conscious mind is being a really good boat captain,
Speaker 2: otherwise you don a Titanic.
Speaker 1: And everyone can say they hate positive affirmations and it's lame.
Speaker 1: But if you think about it. You're giving yourself negative.
Speaker 1: You might be giving yourself negative affirmations all day long,
Speaker 1: so you kind of have to balance it out a little.
Speaker 2: It takes three to one, so for every that's pretty
Speaker 2: much the studies have shown that three positive for every
Speaker 2: one negative. So if you say, oh god, I'm so fat,
Speaker 2: you got to course correct and say three positive things
Speaker 2: to make your brain undo that thing.
Speaker 3: Fat with a pH, fat with a pH, fat with
Speaker 3: a pH.
Speaker 4: So that's an important distinction, is you're you're not only
Speaker 4: does it not understand sarcasm, but your subconscious mind doesn't
Speaker 4: understand negatives either. So if you say I am not fat,
Speaker 4: your subconscious mind is just hearing I am fat. It
Speaker 4: doesn't understand they're not part. So you have to say, really,
Speaker 4: I am skinny, I am hell.
Speaker 1: Let's be the thought fat in your head.
Speaker 2: I've heard that too.
Speaker 1: So rather than saying I'm not fat, you say or like,
Speaker 1: this is one that I do a lot. Like when
Speaker 1: I was in physical pain, I'd be like, okay, I
Speaker 1: don't I have any pain, and then I heard no.
Speaker 1: You have to say, like, I feel incredible, I am mobile,
Speaker 1: I am at one hundred percent, even I am at
Speaker 1: one hundred percent might be slightly putting the idea in
Speaker 1: your subconscious mind that there's there's a possibility of a deficit.
Speaker 1: So you just say like, I'm thriving.
Speaker 2: Sometimes though I cannot help it, like I'm someone who
Speaker 2: believes in this stuff, and even reading the books, I'm like,
Speaker 2: this is the way I'm going to believe my life.
Speaker 2: I'm going to change my life on a fucking dime
Speaker 2: right now. I'm never gonna talk negatively to myself again.
Speaker 2: It doesn't behoove me. It feels so good to bully myself.
Speaker 2: I'm not kidding you. I almost started an account just
Speaker 2: to write on my own posts the things that I
Speaker 2: know other people are already thinking, so that I can
Speaker 2: beat them to it, and they don't get to have
Speaker 2: to control the narrative. I get to control it.
Speaker 1: So like then you're in a hell of your own making.
Speaker 2: But at least I get to there's some It was weird.
Speaker 2: I don't do it, and I would never do it,
Speaker 2: but I really thought, like I can bully myself better
Speaker 2: than these people, and I want to be the one
Speaker 2: to do it, to show them how it's done.
Speaker 1: So what's been three to one to that that's a
Speaker 1: lot of effort. I don't know how how do you
Speaker 1: balance that out? You have to create like a positive account.
Speaker 2: To me, you know what I need. I needed to
Speaker 2: squeeze out three tears and then I was fine. Like
Speaker 2: crying just like fixes everything for me. And I don't
Speaker 2: know why I can't do it more often. I just
Speaker 2: every time I'm feeling that way, I think I just
Speaker 2: need to go. I need to step away and watch
Speaker 2: a sad movie or a video or something and just cry.
Speaker 2: Because after I cry, I don't even have that feeling
Speaker 2: of like, oh I feel stupid now, Like I just
Speaker 2: feel like better, and it just it fixes, it literally
Speaker 2: fixes everything. I keep leaving so late to the game
Speaker 2: and figuring out this cry thing. It's pretty fucking good.
Speaker 4: I think what you have there though, as a screenplay,
Speaker 4: I think that's a movie. You have a social media
Speaker 4: influencer who sick and tired of troll so she goes
Speaker 4: and creates a fake account that trolls her, and then
Speaker 4: the fake account becomes also very famous, and then she
Speaker 4: has to pretend to be both these people. Like maybe
Speaker 4: she winds up, you know, having a suicide attempt or
Speaker 4: something like that. This is a to.
Speaker 3: That and then like the guy of her dreams falls
Speaker 3: in love with the bully.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, it has to become the bully in
Speaker 1: a scene.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is good. You guys were something we should
Speaker 2: take this tell anybody, don't tell me. Steals it. So
Speaker 2: we're in London.
Speaker 3: Well, I feel like there was another story besides the
Speaker 3: the the person who had like your future life and
Speaker 3: who hated it. We had another story that we really liked.
Speaker 2: Oh about the lounge singing woman. Oh yeah, I wrote
Speaker 2: it down. Hold on, let me see because I had.
Speaker 1: Does it take place in Berlin or did it take
Speaker 1: place in Vienna?
Speaker 2: Oh no, this one takes place in JFK. No, not JFK. Newark.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: So we flew from Saint Louis to Newark and then
Speaker 2: from Newark to Berlin, and we Chris and I had
Speaker 2: like a six hour layover and so, which is kind
Speaker 2: of nice because Newark actually is like in good shape.
Speaker 2: I used to think Newark was the worst airport by far,
Speaker 2: but it was. We were in a good section and
Speaker 2: we sat down at a restaurant. Chris made a joke
Speaker 2: that I didn't even understand was a joke. At the time,
Speaker 2: but looking back, it was funny because I was like,
Speaker 2: do you want to sit inside? And he goes, no,
Speaker 2: let's sit outside, and it's like, not outside, it's just
Speaker 2: like in the terminal. So we sit outside and we
Speaker 2: get some I get some shashido peppers, you get some
Speaker 2: little fried dumplins. And we're having a nice little chat.
Speaker 2: And then I look behind Chris and I see a
Speaker 2: duty free shop and one of the posters on for
Speaker 2: a fragrance is this model and I go, look behind you,
Speaker 2: it's Willa. And he turns around and it looks exactly
Speaker 2: like Willa from Succession. Her name is Justine. I forget
Speaker 2: her Loupe loope, Oh easy was a little too fast.
Speaker 2: Why don't you try to look it up? Like Camille Costack.
Speaker 3: You don't know. I'm rooting for her more than most
Speaker 3: other people in the show, Like I want her to
Speaker 3: have a happy ending.
Speaker 2: I think she her turn. Her whole turn in the
Speaker 2: in the show has been very interesting. But anyway, she
Speaker 2: plays Willow. She plays Connor Roy's wife, but who started
Speaker 2: out as his prostitute. Yeah girlfriend, like everyone knew. Everyone
Speaker 2: always talked about like she's just being paid to hang
Speaker 2: out with him, and then they end up getting married
Speaker 2: and now she's kind of like the most supportive wife
Speaker 2: out of the whole thing, Like they have the best
Speaker 2: relationship with anyone, which is fairly ironic given how they
Speaker 2: met and how she was kind of when he first
Speaker 2: was like, you know, do you do you think you
Speaker 2: could be happy with me? Or are you happy with me?
Speaker 2: And she's like yeah, like she's just like kind of
Speaker 2: not run into it, and she goes, I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: leave now. She said that to him and he was
Speaker 2: like okay, good and he's all just like heartened by that.
Speaker 2: So anyway, they get married and but I go didn't
Speaker 2: look like Willa and he turns on he's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I forget what you said. You kind of were like
Speaker 2: yeah kind of and he's like not as good, not
Speaker 2: as good as Justine Lupe and I go easy. And
Speaker 2: then five.
Speaker 4: Minutes past what you just you know, if a guy
Speaker 4: thinks an actress is hot, if they know their full
Speaker 4: name off the yes.
Speaker 2: And so like the other night we were watching, oh
Speaker 2: what were we watching? And oh there we were some
Speaker 2: sporting thing and I go, oh, look who's like on
Speaker 2: a cool sports It was like some she was like
Speaker 2: on some like Porsche or like cool like f one brand,
Speaker 2: and it was what is her name? I don't even
Speaker 2: know her Brett, No, no Brev.
Speaker 4: No idea, I have no idea.
Speaker 2: Right of course, no clue.
Speaker 3: Right, I didn't know her name either.
Speaker 2: Chris goes, oh, yeah, she's good, she's something, she's special
Speaker 2: like and I never get jealous of him oggling women
Speaker 2: and not ogling just but like noticing a woman's beauty.
Speaker 2: It doesn't bother me. But then he goes, oh, she's
Speaker 2: the one with a red dress. And I go what?
Speaker 2: And that now I was starting to go what's going
Speaker 2: on here? And I go, I bet he, I bet
Speaker 2: he knows. And sure enough, you google Nina Doe Brev
Speaker 2: red dress. No, no, you like as in the you
Speaker 2: generally if you google it, because I googled it and
Speaker 2: looked it up, and it is quite impressive. There are
Speaker 2: some boobs going, there's different angles of the boom. There's
Speaker 2: side boom, there's under boom, there's top boob. It's all
Speaker 2: of the sides of the boom in one dress. It's fantastic.
Speaker 2: And but anyway, so he was a fan, and we're
Speaker 2: also fans of this Will a character. So five minutes
Speaker 2: after I point out this, this girl looks like her.
Speaker 2: I see, I'm talking about some bullshit and Chris is
Speaker 2: listening kind of and and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: he's I see his face go like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: my god.
Speaker 4: He goes Will, Will.
Speaker 2: And I think he's saying Will, and I go, who's Will?
Speaker 2: And then passing us and he goes Willa, Willa, and
Speaker 2: I go, what what? And it's so she was walking
Speaker 2: behind me right towards him. Then she passes me and
Speaker 2: then I see the back of her head and I
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, we love it. Like I
Speaker 2: tried to get her attention. She didn't turn around, but
Speaker 2: then she kind of did further down. Because I think
Speaker 2: you said that she saw you make the recognition.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think she saw in my I think those
Speaker 3: people that are like are newly famous, they can kind
Speaker 3: of they can kind of see somebody yes doing the
Speaker 3: math in their head. And I think she saw me
Speaker 3: doing the math, and you know, she.
Speaker 1: Makes herself kind of available.
Speaker 3: And I wouldn't say that necessarily. I just I just
Speaker 3: think she was like, I think that guy's doing the math, right.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's gotten there yet.
Speaker 2: So she this was so I'm like freaking out, but
Speaker 2: I know where she's going because she's going to a
Speaker 2: dead end. We just came from there. That's where our
Speaker 2: flight got out, and it's dead and there's no food
Speaker 2: and they don't seem to be in a rush, her
Speaker 2: and her boyfriend. So I was like, Oh, their gate
Speaker 2: is down there. They're gonna look at their gate and
Speaker 2: they're gonna circle back around because they seem to have time.
Speaker 2: They're gonna go back and try to find something to eat.
Speaker 2: We're gonna see him again. So I was like, cause
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say something. I'm not letting I have a
Speaker 2: succession Bengo card and I want to meet everyone from
Speaker 2: that show.
Speaker 3: I love your enthusiasm for the situation because I thought
Speaker 3: I thought it was like, oh, that was fun to
Speaker 3: see them, but then you believe they were coming back
Speaker 3: and you were like, oh, I'm this is going to
Speaker 3: be a thing that I'm doing.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Because Chris and I continued our conversation, I said, I
Speaker 2: don't want you to think I'm rude, but I'm on,
Speaker 2: I'm on willow Watch right now, Like I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: looking behind you but I'm there, you know. So then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I feel like I.
Speaker 3: Was a like an LA party where you were just
Speaker 3: like looking over my shoulder to see if there's somebody
Speaker 3: more interesting to talk to.
Speaker 4: That's so true. So I was.
Speaker 2: I was looking at her shoulder, but I told him, like,
Speaker 2: don't think I'm rude, like I am looking for someone better.
Speaker 3: And then Glenn from Haveverick, I'm into him.
Speaker 2: I don't care for that anymore. So then I see
Speaker 2: her and she's walking towards me, and I am desperate
Speaker 2: to make I started fixing my hair and like doing
Speaker 2: this under my eyes to like smooth out my bags,
Speaker 2: just any like just and I go, do I look weird?
Speaker 2: Do I have anything in my teeth? Because I was
Speaker 2: eating seaweed salad and like these peppers, and so I'm like,
Speaker 2: is there anything? And then I'm like hi, I go
Speaker 2: and I waved and I got her attention and she walks,
Speaker 2: you know, right by her table. So she stops and
Speaker 2: I go, I love you so much. You are so great,
Speaker 2: you are so talented, Like what did I say.
Speaker 3: Gushing career? Yeah you were gushing, yeah, and you were
Speaker 3: very positive about her future. And she was like, she
Speaker 3: was really sweet about the whole thing, and her guy
Speaker 3: was of me, just like because when people come up
Speaker 3: to you all the time and I'm talking to you
Speaker 3: and I'm just sort of like sitting in the background,
Speaker 3: like smiling and.
Speaker 2: Not heatud of because I was like, and I wanted
Speaker 2: to give her a compliment that was beyond like, because
Speaker 2: I know what it's probably like to get role like that.
Speaker 2: You've been working your whole life, and you have so
Speaker 2: many other things you've done, and now this is the
Speaker 2: only thing you ever get recognized for. And there it
Speaker 2: just ended too and maybe you don't have anything coming up.
Speaker 2: But I was like, but she's so good on that show,
Speaker 2: and I've studied her acting so much on it because
Speaker 2: she's so funny and so subtle that I was just like,
Speaker 2: I need to give her a good compliment. So I said,
Speaker 2: we'll be watching you forever you're not. I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm you're You're so fantastic. You're such a good actress
Speaker 2: and you're just amazing. And she was just like thank you.
Speaker 2: And she just looked stunning, you know, but like normal,
Speaker 2: not as tall as you'd think. Will it would be
Speaker 2: for everyone who watches succession. You probably think she's very
Speaker 2: very tall.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna guess like five eleven.
Speaker 2: She may have been actually, because models, she's like model beautiful,
Speaker 2: So she just looked like gorgeous. And then I went
Speaker 2: to the bathroom afterwards and I was like, I gotta
Speaker 2: get my shit together. Like she didn't have any makeup
Speaker 2: on yet she still looks stunning. I mean, we both
Speaker 2: had the same level of care put in, but I
Speaker 2: looked like a ragamuffin. So anyway, I punted it out
Speaker 2: so exciting, and christ oh, yeah, I'm beautiful, I'm strong,
Speaker 2: I'm lucky, and things work out for me. And so
Speaker 2: then and I'm gonna be watching myself the rest of
Speaker 2: my life. And so then I was like yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: And Chris took a picture and she's very small in
Speaker 2: the background because by then she had gotten far away.
Speaker 2: And then I posted it and I tagged her in it,
Speaker 2: and then she wrote me back and she said this
Speaker 2: is the most flattering and all these heart emojis, and
Speaker 2: she said, I've loved hearing you on podcasts talking about
Speaker 2: your life with such honesty. Of course your comedy is
Speaker 2: so great, but hearing you be so transparent is really
Speaker 2: inspiring and quite rare. And then I wrote back a
Speaker 2: gigantic paragraph. She saw it didn't ride back, but we're
Speaker 2: off to a good star. I said, thank you so
Speaker 2: much for saying this. It makes me feel so good.
Speaker 2: I am such a fan and will be for life.
Speaker 2: I legit rewind and rewatch and study the subtle comedic
Speaker 2: choices you make on the show. You're such a standout.
Speaker 2: I'm not telling you anything that everyone isn't already saying,
Speaker 2: but your truly next level is so nice to meet you.
Speaker 5: Xo.
Speaker 1: Oh that's so nice.
Speaker 2: That's like a period.
Speaker 1: Compliments those are great well, because.
Speaker 2: I get compliments all the time, and they break my
Speaker 2: fucking heart. And that's why I don't like hanging out
Speaker 2: of this. Just like you know, I love you on
Speaker 2: your roast and they've just watched me do stand up.
Speaker 2: Then they but this is how they say it. They go,
Speaker 2: you know what I really love is your ross. You
Speaker 2: know that, Like that's what they say, or they'll they'll
Speaker 2: just compliments more than not when you are an insecure
Speaker 2: person and which most performers are, just take something from
Speaker 2: you sometimes. But so yeah, I'm I try to give
Speaker 2: what I would want without being insincere.
Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's easy. It's easy for
Speaker 3: people to use something negative to then make it seem
Speaker 3: like whatever they're like. They set it up with like,
Speaker 3: I'm not usually into female comics, but you're funny, so
Speaker 3: they think it's like catapulting their compliment into the stratosphere
Speaker 3: when really.
Speaker 2: Like I want over this guy. He doesn't. I don't
Speaker 2: think he's an idiot at all from his first statement.
Speaker 3: But people think like, oh, this is a you know,
Speaker 3: like I usually don't watch stuff like this, but I'm
Speaker 3: really into your stuff. Yes, all right, well cool, your
Speaker 3: compliment didn't need to like or like describe yourself. Yes,
Speaker 3: I don't care an.
Speaker 2: Art form like not everyone knows how to do. You
Speaker 2: have to learn how to do it. Yeah, I read
Speaker 2: a book really well, said no, you didn't.
Speaker 1: Writing a book on it.
Speaker 4: It'd be funny if it turns out that that wasn't
Speaker 4: Willa and you were just like, I'm going to be
Speaker 4: watching you. I love you.
Speaker 2: Made me feel really good. You read a book about
Speaker 2: how to give compliments.
Speaker 4: How to talk to anyone? Ninety one little secrets or
Speaker 4: big Success.
Speaker 2: You love these numbers. Okay, so what was I think
Speaker 2: you learned from it, have you, guys? No, I like
Speaker 2: this book. Wait, well, we have to take a break.
Speaker 2: Let's learn from Brian about how to best give compliments
Speaker 2: and talk to people. When we get back, and to
Speaker 2: casual dance. We'll learn all that we get back, all right,
Speaker 2: Brian ninety one Ways to talk to What was the
Speaker 2: title of the book.
Speaker 4: We talked to Anyone? Ninety one Little Secrets for Big Success.
Speaker 4: It's a great book.
Speaker 2: No, you don't on you.
Speaker 4: You can also do with She also has another book
Speaker 4: called How to Make How to Fall in Love with
Speaker 4: Anyone and or how Anyone Can Fall in Love with
Speaker 4: the titles it's how to Make Anyone fall in Love
Speaker 4: with You?
Speaker 2: Deal Carnegie.
Speaker 1: Yes, tell us some tips.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like some of the more fascinating things you learned.
Speaker 4: My favorite tip about complimenting is that you should. It's
Speaker 4: how to accept a compliment people. Some often people will
Speaker 4: be rude and not accept compliments. If someone says, hey,
Speaker 4: that's a nice shirt of common response would be, oh,
Speaker 4: this old thing this is you know, this is a
Speaker 4: piece of shit. I hate this, and then it makes
Speaker 4: a compliment or feel stupid. It's like saying you're stupid
Speaker 4: that you thought this was a nice shirt. So what
Speaker 4: do you do? How do you how do you accept
Speaker 4: a compliment in a good way?
Speaker 2: Thank you?
Speaker 3: You say, that's so nice of you. How thoughtful of
Speaker 3: you to think of me like that, that think how
Speaker 3: interesting of you to make that observation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's pretty close. So what they that's actually pretty close.
Speaker 4: So if you just say thank you, that's like fine.
Speaker 4: But that's like a C you know, like a grade. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because that's like, okay, I've acknowledged that. You know, I
Speaker 4: didn't shoot you down, but we're supposed to do.
Speaker 3: So nice of you to say that.
Speaker 4: That's okay. Uh see C plus.
Speaker 1: But I was hating this shirt earlier, but you made
Speaker 1: me feel so incredible.
Speaker 2: Here take it.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, did you see that the clip when
Speaker 4: Donald Trump was on Conan from like the before he
Speaker 4: was a political guy and he had this Trump tie on.
Speaker 4: He was wearing one of his own ties, and Conan,
Speaker 4: you know, was just being nice and he said, oh,
Speaker 4: I like your tie. That's a nice tie. And then
Speaker 4: Trump said, are you like this tie? I'll give it
Speaker 4: to you. And he took off his tie and gave
Speaker 4: it to Conan and Conan, did you ever see that? No?
Speaker 2: But do you feel like he read a book?
Speaker 4: The warder action made me? What made me feel weird?
Speaker 2: I've had that happened to me before, where people have
Speaker 2: been like do you want it? And I'm like, yes, Whitney,
Speaker 2: I'd love that shirt with horses on. Your dad does
Speaker 2: that every time.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh cool, you know he gets like a
Speaker 3: new Patagony, cool Patagonia and he's like, you have it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm like, no thing every single time if you compliment anything,
Speaker 3: So we like start like we'll do this, We'll compliment
Speaker 3: him on things. We'll be like, get off, get off
Speaker 3: a dad.
Speaker 1: Pretty soon he's naked.
Speaker 2: What do you say?
Speaker 4: You need to compliment the complimenter for complimenting you.
Speaker 1: So if somebody says, centered, we didn't think of that, you.
Speaker 4: Got to think of the other person. So if somebody
Speaker 4: says that's a nice shirt, then you should say, oh,
Speaker 4: that's so interesting that you say that. You actually my
Speaker 4: aunt got me this shirt for my birthday and it's
Speaker 4: one of my favorite shirts.
Speaker 2: Let me let me just say the difference between what
Speaker 2: Anya's response is is that we should think of that.
Speaker 2: Why only think of ourselves? This is a book written
Speaker 2: about people who think about trying to get things from people.
Speaker 2: This is a book about how to manipulate people to
Speaker 2: like you. More so, it's not really thinking about someone else.
Speaker 2: This is what you would do to get that person
Speaker 2: to like you.
Speaker 1: Isn't this what the coach on Love on the Spectrum
Speaker 1: was teaching them when she was like rolling the ball back.
Speaker 2: And please Michael Michael, Yes, Michael, that's a great question.
Speaker 2: She also likes.
Speaker 4: That's that's an amazing Australian accent. That is so difficult.
Speaker 4: That's one of the most difficult accents to do.
Speaker 2: Well. Here's a trick if you want to say the
Speaker 2: word no, so thoughtful of.
Speaker 3: You to make that observation about Nikki.
Speaker 1: Brian my aunt once.
Speaker 4: Don't you make them feel smart for having observed.
Speaker 2: These are manipulative techniques. These aren't just like this is
Speaker 2: this is what you should do to be a good person.
Speaker 2: It's like, this is how you get them.
Speaker 1: Then you compliment them. What if they have a shirt.
Speaker 2: Because then.
Speaker 3: Thank you card and then thank you for the thank you.
Speaker 2: Here's a thank you.
Speaker 4: No, you don't return the compliment with a compliment. You
Speaker 4: compliment the compliment or for complimenting you. So if you
Speaker 4: say if they say, hey, that's a nice shirt, and
Speaker 4: then you go, oh, you have a nice shirt too,
Speaker 4: that's just as bad as saying bullshit.
Speaker 2: I hate that.
Speaker 3: I think it's like, I thank you, I love this shirt.
Speaker 3: It's so nice of you to say that.
Speaker 4: That's pretty good. That's like an a minus because you
Speaker 4: are telling the person that they are they for pointing
Speaker 4: that out because they they notice something that people noticed.
Speaker 2: Is one of my biggest pet peeves in win returning compliments.
Speaker 2: Someone will say, Nikki, you are so funny. That was
Speaker 2: so good. You're one of the best comments. I'll go with,
Speaker 2: that's so nice, and they go, no, I'm not being nice.
Speaker 2: Don't know, don't I'm not being And then I have
Speaker 2: to start fighting with them of like, well, it's still
Speaker 2: nice that you said it, and it can still be
Speaker 2: They go, it's just true, and I go, well, thank you,
Speaker 2: and they go, you don't need to thank me. I'm
Speaker 2: just and I'm like, I can't fucking win here, Like,
Speaker 2: do you know what I have to have people done
Speaker 2: that to you? Yeah, where they go, I'm not being nice,
Speaker 2: it's not nice, it's just true, and You're like Okay,
Speaker 2: I get it, You're I'm and I'm not saying that
Speaker 2: you're being nice to me does not mean a lie.
Speaker 2: It just means that makes me feel good. And then
Speaker 2: I eventually get to that and then they kind of
Speaker 2: move on, but where they have to kind of be like, no,
Speaker 2: I'm smarter than all these people here, I'm telling you
Speaker 2: the truth. Like I get it. I'm really a lot
Speaker 2: of girls will say to me, I'm like, I'm pretty
Speaker 2: intellectual and you're smart. Like I want to let you know,
Speaker 2: like I hang out with doctors mostly and you are
Speaker 2: like on the level, and I'll go appreciated.
Speaker 3: This looks like a little mini brag or like telling
Speaker 3: you know, people like trying to tell you their personality
Speaker 3: and it's like, I don't care.
Speaker 2: I did that a little bit with Justine, Like I
Speaker 2: knew that she probably respects me comedically, so I needed
Speaker 2: to let her know your comedic choices are, like I
Speaker 2: knew that she is, She's aware of me, So there
Speaker 2: is probably like a pedestal of like this girl knows
Speaker 2: comedy and I had to give her one because she
Speaker 2: is good at comedy in a way that maybe it
Speaker 2: would mean more to her than someone else. So I
Speaker 2: kind of did the same time.
Speaker 3: I very badly because you couldn't do it. Wanted to
Speaker 3: be like when when you were like be well, you
Speaker 3: guys had that like a little exchange. I very badly
Speaker 3: wanted to be like, this is you don't know this,
Speaker 3: but this is this is Nicky. She's one of the
Speaker 3: best comics, like.
Speaker 2: Or she's one of the biggest succession fans. Yeah ever,
Speaker 2: but yeah, thank you bab for almost saying that. That's
Speaker 2: really nice of you. Yeah, smarter, thank you for being
Speaker 2: the Okay, what are some other tricks of the trade, Brian,
Speaker 2: to like be a good conversationalist and to get people
Speaker 2: to like you and fall in love with you.
Speaker 4: Okay, so if you are this is like, this is
Speaker 4: an easy one. Everybody knows this one, but sometimes people
Speaker 4: don't do it. If you are at a party and
Speaker 4: you are introducing, uh, somebody to somebody else, you should
Speaker 4: say something that is interesting about them that you think
Speaker 4: the other person will have in common with them. You
Speaker 4: don't just dump people off and say, oh, Jen, this
Speaker 4: is Alice, Jen is my coworker and then leave them.
Speaker 4: You got to think, what do these two people maybe
Speaker 4: have in common? Oh Jen, this is Alice. Do you
Speaker 4: know you guys? You know both went to UH school
Speaker 4: in Ohio. Boom. Now they can talk as long as
Speaker 4: you you can leave right.
Speaker 1: I'm going to thought over email intros. I give a
Speaker 1: great email intro, but I have a hard time in
Speaker 1: person A lot of times just.
Speaker 2: Frings it up beforehand and read it off when you
Speaker 2: go to a party.
Speaker 4: It sounds so common sense, it sounds like everyone must
Speaker 4: do that, But then you go to a party and
Speaker 4: it doesn't happen, and then you're just sitting.
Speaker 2: My favorite trick then, I've talked about this so many times,
Speaker 2: but it's just the funniest trick to me is that
Speaker 2: if you ask someone it's this is totally manipulative. If
Speaker 2: you ask someone for a favor that you can do.
Speaker 2: Like if I was like Anya, will you turn out
Speaker 2: my volume? And I easily could do it, and you
Speaker 2: do it, you in your head have to think I
Speaker 2: didn't just do that because I'm a little bitch. I
Speaker 2: must do it because I really like Niki, and so
Speaker 2: it makes you like me more because your subconscious doesn't
Speaker 2: want to feel like a little bitch that this girl
Speaker 2: just bosses around. So you convince yourself. I did it
Speaker 2: because I love Nikki and I like her, and I
Speaker 2: do think so, isn't that Have you ever read that one, Brian,
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 4: Really following what you're saying.
Speaker 3: I've seen it. It's basically, you ask for small favors
Speaker 3: and you think it's going to count against you, like man,
Speaker 3: Nicky's always asking me to do these favors, but it
Speaker 3: does the opposite. Instead of you not liking you liking
Speaker 3: Nikki less because she's always bugging you with stuff, it
Speaker 3: makes you think you like her more.
Speaker 2: Yes, because you have to convince yourself. It's too hard
Speaker 2: to think I'm doing this because she asks. I'm a
Speaker 2: little bit boy or whatever. I know, but that's the
Speaker 2: only way I can think of it, Like I'm like
Speaker 2: a pussy that gets bossed around by this lady because
Speaker 2: I've had it happen to me before, where I'm like,
Speaker 2: why am I doing this? And you do this cognitive
Speaker 2: shift where you go, oh, I don't do this because
Speaker 2: I I'm a pushover and a little bitch. I do it,
Speaker 2: but then I do it because I like her, and
Speaker 2: then therefore you then do like them more. It's a
Speaker 2: Dale Carnegie trick and it's also in this book called
Speaker 2: the Psychology of Influence that is very fascinating. I've never
Speaker 2: used that because I just don't. I don't want want
Speaker 2: someone to like me because I've done a mental manipulation
Speaker 2: on them. I want them to like me for pure reasons.
Speaker 2: That's also why and stand up. I don't I talk
Speaker 2: over claps because I know that the audience if they clap,
Speaker 2: if they if they laugh, and they keep laughing, they'll
Speaker 2: eventually go to a clap. If you just take a
Speaker 2: sip of water. But I don't want them to do
Speaker 2: that because I know that it's a trick and they
Speaker 2: will be at the end, they will like me more,
Speaker 2: not because I was funny, but because I tricked them
Speaker 2: into clapping to fill the silence to get through my
Speaker 2: water sip. And it's a thing that every comedian does.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying I'm better because I don't do it,
Speaker 2: but I think I might be because I'm I want
Speaker 2: to be. I want to be judged on the merit
Speaker 2: of my comedy, which I don't think is up to
Speaker 2: snuff with a lot of comedians. Yes they don't. It's
Speaker 2: just like you call it clapter. Yeah, because it's last.
Speaker 2: We're watching some standard plowing through specials.
Speaker 3: It's wild that claps somehow are substitutes for laughs, and
Speaker 3: you're like, nobody was laughing there.
Speaker 2: And I don't, as a viewer, want to hear people
Speaker 2: clapping at home. It bores me. I'm like, I'm not there.
Speaker 2: Let's speed this up.
Speaker 1: I don't laugh and a clap last into claps great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, once in a while, I think three per special.
Speaker 1: It's a little Yeah. It's kind of like, is this
Speaker 1: a ted talk? Are you empowering us?
Speaker 2: Which is fine too, Like I'm okay with being empowered,
Speaker 2: but if you're using it, if you're just taking too
Speaker 2: many pauses, I'm just suspicious. And I think you're a
Speaker 2: little bit of a magician, which is part of comedy,
Speaker 2: and that's fine, and I've talked about it so much
Speaker 2: on here, But yeah, Chris and I are plowing through specials.
Speaker 2: We watched Seinfeld's twenty three Hours to Kill. It's so good.
Speaker 2: I loved it, but I can't. I have to say
Speaker 2: that Bill Burr's Red Rocks is the special to beat
Speaker 2: right now. I think it is. It is so fucking good.
Speaker 2: It took me so long to watch it because I
Speaker 2: just I don't want to compare myself to him. It
Speaker 2: makes me depressed about like how good you can be,
Speaker 2: and like he's just it's just just the best.
Speaker 3: There's no fear, straight straight to the funniest stuff. I mean,
Speaker 3: same sort of thing.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I would say Mullany is right there with him,
Speaker 2: but to me, it's Mullaney. And I will only say
Speaker 2: this because I do this too. Mullaney is more performative.
Speaker 2: Bill is like in the moment, like pissed off about
Speaker 2: these things, like there's no and I'm sure there's obviously
Speaker 2: he's having to amp some of this up. He can't
Speaker 2: be this mad about this thing he wrote about, but
Speaker 2: it does seem of his mind in that moment. And
Speaker 2: you know the way he plays with the mike sand,
Speaker 2: the way he plays with his water like there's nothing,
Speaker 2: there's no kind of movement that seems calculated. It seems
Speaker 2: like and Louie used to do this too, and say
Speaker 2: that every time he tells joke, he tells it a
Speaker 2: different way because he wants it to be like in
Speaker 2: the moment, he wants to find new things about it.
Speaker 2: I don't like when comedians are I don't like act
Speaker 2: outs very much unless they're really good. Taylor Thomlinson had
Speaker 2: a great act out where she was like climbing off
Speaker 2: a guy the other day, and I studied it, being like,
Speaker 2: it's so perfectly minmed out of being on top of
Speaker 2: a guy and him saying something gross and you kind
Speaker 2: of just go like it was so good and it
Speaker 2: made me like go, like, I need to do more
Speaker 2: act outs. But I don't like act outs where like
Speaker 2: you you just are preparing to get to something that
Speaker 2: is like not that good.
Speaker 3: I don't know, you've got some You've got some act
Speaker 3: out in your act right now that I'm into.
Speaker 2: Yeah, language one, Oh yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: Like where you're just well, it's it's more of like
Speaker 3: a physical things similar. Oh yeah, I don't want to spoil.
Speaker 2: It right now, but I don't, right, But I guess
Speaker 2: I'm saying I don't want to act out ire or
Speaker 2: confusion or I want to be in the moment. Bilbert
Speaker 2: to me, which I don't know how he does it.
Speaker 2: I think it's because he he writes from such an
Speaker 2: authentic place and dude, this special is so good. And
Speaker 2: I've been talking about this because Bilbert I was always
Speaker 2: kind of reluctant to watch this stuff because he's so
Speaker 2: good and it's so undeniable, but there was a lot
Speaker 2: of like women suck, and it made me feel bad
Speaker 2: about being a woman, and because he would convinced me
Speaker 2: that I kind of women suck, and I'd really kind
Speaker 2: of sad about myself afterwards. Final thought, but Bill Burr
Speaker 2: I saw him on Conan back during COVID and he
Speaker 2: talked about it was one of the episodes where Conan
Speaker 2: was doing it at Largo and there's no audience, it
Speaker 2: was a little bit more intimate, and he was talking
Speaker 2: about doing mushrooms and having this epiphany that all of
Speaker 2: his anger on stage and off was coming from a
Speaker 2: place of feeling alone and unwanted and unloved as a child.
Speaker 2: And I'm paraphrasing, so I'm not exactly saying what he said,
Speaker 2: but he said this on Conan, and he was interesting
Speaker 2: because on Conan usually he is just like rapid fire,
Speaker 2: the funniest person that's ever existed, always saying things like
Speaker 2: they're off the top of his head, but they're somehow
Speaker 2: just beautifully written, but they're also seemingly so just pure,
Speaker 2: and he's just the best, I think, and and I've
Speaker 2: always watch him on Conan and just been in complete awe.
Speaker 2: But this Conan was so special because he was just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I did mushrooms and I'm realize, I'm fucking anger because
Speaker 2: my childhood and I my dad didn't fucking love me,
Speaker 2: and I you know, I had shitty parents. And it
Speaker 2: was kind of just sat there and there was there
Speaker 2: wasn't a punchline coming, and he was like what did
Speaker 2: he say? He goes, you know what, Uh, there's a
Speaker 2: thing called like empathy that I've lacked.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm just like getting into empathy now. And there was
Speaker 2: no joke there. It was just and Cony was like yeah,
Speaker 2: and he goes yeah, and it was just there.
Speaker 1: And he's like, I have a lot to process. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it takes me a long time. I realized to
Speaker 1: like emotionally make sure it's giving me goosebumps.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, I'm so excited for
Speaker 2: whatever's going to come after this. And then he put
Speaker 2: out Red Rocks and I remember seeing some like women
Speaker 2: stuff on there where I'm like, oh, maybe he's back
Speaker 2: to his old ways or whatever. I didn't give it
Speaker 2: a chance, And then I saw one clip that I
Speaker 2: really loved, and I've talked about it before. It's the
Speaker 2: Lizo clip where he's like, women love Lizzo because they're
Speaker 2: not threatened by her, among other reasons they love her,
Speaker 2: but like everyone's like yeah, girl, because they're like, you're
Speaker 2: not gonna steal my like whatever it is. There was
Speaker 2: some truth to that that I found really refreshing. And so,
Speaker 2: but then we watched it the other night and he
Speaker 2: talks about doing Mushroom. He went into it. Now he
Speaker 2: has jokes around the whole Mushroom trip and how he
Speaker 2: felt this loneliness and he couldn't get out of it
Speaker 2: and he kept going lower and lower and lower, and
Speaker 2: he describes it and how and then he tells a
Speaker 2: story about running to a lesbian in the street and
Speaker 2: she like kind of like gives him like a really
Speaker 2: hard shoulder and he's so fucking pissed about it, like
Speaker 2: why the fuck would she do that? Like what a bitch?
Speaker 2: And like and like anyone would about someone who like
Speaker 2: just bumps into them really hard with warning, Like he's,
Speaker 2: you know, walking towards her on the sidewalk and he's
Speaker 2: trying to get out of her way, and she switches
Speaker 2: to the side he's on, and then she switches when
Speaker 2: he tries to get to the other side, and then
Speaker 2: she fucking just like shoves him. And then by the
Speaker 2: end of it, he's like found this commonality and this
Speaker 2: empathy for her and just it's just the coolest thing.
Speaker 2: And he and he's just also seems like such a
Speaker 2: good dad. But he's sharing these moments where he thinks
Speaker 2: he's gonna suck up his kid, but there there there
Speaker 2: are moments where he's like a you know, quote unquote
Speaker 2: bad dad or like maybe not the best dad, but
Speaker 2: he also has empathy for himself. It's just like really
Speaker 2: beautiful and he just seems I don't know, I'm just
Speaker 2: I really think that's that's the level to aspire to
Speaker 2: get to, is to be completely authentic, not lying about
Speaker 2: anything you don't there's no bullshit. Louis used to tell
Speaker 2: us that his kids were pieces of shit and that
Speaker 2: he didn't you know, he gave his he got a
Speaker 2: hand up from his wife on the floor. But you know,
Speaker 2: things like that, and you go, God, this is refreshing.
Speaker 2: It's honest, and there were truth to that. Bill does
Speaker 2: not seem to be holding back any like ugly side
Speaker 2: of himself that he's not presenting to us, and I
Speaker 2: just found it to be just inspirational.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was amazing. He's in the pocket, he's authentic.
Speaker 3: Ali Wong is another thing. It's just like yes, to
Speaker 3: see some of these people just being themselves and being
Speaker 3: so funny. I think it is one of my favorite
Speaker 3: things of watching specials back to back to back because
Speaker 3: you just see these people that are so comfortable with
Speaker 3: who they are. And part of that is like with
Speaker 3: age and all that stuff. But man, those two so good.
Speaker 3: Bargazi's so good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yes, it's something that you know comes with time,
Speaker 2: and that's the nice thing about stand.
Speaker 1: Up and also therapy and doing some work on yourself.
Speaker 1: Like I find if you watch older Bill Burr stuff,
Speaker 1: it's not quite I mean, it's all good, but it's
Speaker 1: not quite as deep because of these revelations.
Speaker 2: Have still be mad at women and see the hypocrisies
Speaker 2: of our movements and still have really good things that
Speaker 2: make me go, God, we do do that, and that
Speaker 2: is cringe And like, man, he does have a good point,
Speaker 2: which is the opposite of the side I'm on, and
Speaker 2: like makes me you know, his thing about abortion. I
Speaker 2: don't don't know if anyone's seen it, but his analogy
Speaker 2: is one of the best analogies going. He he says, like,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm pro choice, but you gotta admit it.
Speaker 2: You're you're killing a baby, like it is murder. Like
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you know, And he says it's like he goes,
Speaker 2: you know, but they say it's not a baby yet,
Speaker 2: you know, whatever they say, And he says, it's like
Speaker 2: if you were to be baking a cake and you
Speaker 2: get a cake and you put it in the oven
Speaker 2: and then someone comes out and just takes the cake
Speaker 2: before it's fully done and just throws it on the floor,
Speaker 2: and you go, what did you do to my cake?
Speaker 2: And they're like, it wasn't a cake yet. You go,
Speaker 2: what a bit? And it just like, you know, it
Speaker 2: made me think a little bit. It was just such
Speaker 2: a perfect analogy. It's just it's nice to have someone
Speaker 2: out there that I aspire to be that is as
Speaker 2: good as he is. Because he is. I see the
Speaker 2: work he puts in, obviously to writing, but I think
Speaker 2: the real work that he's putting in is just finding
Speaker 2: out how to be as authentic as possible, which seems
Speaker 2: a lot more easy to me than like sitting down
Speaker 2: with a laptop at Starbucks, which to me is not
Speaker 2: gonna happen ever for me. But I might find a
Speaker 2: new truth to myself, like if just keeping it, Like
Speaker 2: what else am I? There's still things I'm probably not
Speaker 2: being fully honest about on stage, and that's exciting to go. Well,
Speaker 2: maybe I can get even further into something that is
Speaker 2: even more that I don't even realize about myself yet.
Speaker 1: Oh, your act has evolved so much. I mean, you've
Speaker 1: always been lauded as somebody that's like painfully honest, which
Speaker 1: is such a great thing that we all. That's why
Speaker 1: I think most people love you is that you're just
Speaker 1: going to say the things that no one is brave
Speaker 1: enough to say. But like I think if you compare
Speaker 1: your older comedy to now, it's like, now you're broaching
Speaker 1: topics that make people really uncomfortable, but you're like, I
Speaker 1: don't care. I want to talk about this shit. People
Speaker 1: should talk about this, And I think that's what is
Speaker 1: exciting because it's it's like funny and it can create
Speaker 1: change within people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, thanks girl, It's true.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's I think earlier it's like joke, joke, joke, joke,
Speaker 1: And now you're more You're like, why is society this way?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really nice. I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: Oh, it was so nice of you to say something that.
Speaker 2: Why why, it's really smart of you. No, Okay, I
Speaker 2: got it. You want to see this? Okay, Okay, you
Speaker 2: know what. I really appreciate that compliment because you are
Speaker 2: noticing this thing about myself that I didn't think anyone
Speaker 2: really saw, and you are paying attention to something that,
Speaker 2: first of all, no one else has even been that astute.
Speaker 2: And I'm trying to I'm giving that like bullshit version.
Speaker 2: No one else has ever given me a compliment like that,
Speaker 2: And you were noticing something about me that I really
Speaker 2: have only noticed about myself, and I was thinking, maybe
Speaker 2: someone got it, and you get it.
Speaker 1: I feel good now even though you know.
Speaker 4: The trick it's isn't it working?
Speaker 2: Ye?
Speaker 4: Aren't you more likely to compliment? Way through?
Speaker 2: I was like, this is I think in general people
Speaker 2: need to give more compliments. I I just know, but
Speaker 2: I do like you more. Okay, what do we have
Speaker 2: to do in London while we're here? The next couple
Speaker 2: of days. Have you guys been to London? Noah, Brian
Speaker 2: never Europe? Sadly you haven't. Is that on your list?
Speaker 4: Brian?
Speaker 3: Would you go to Europe with me? Would you we
Speaker 3: should do a trip together?
Speaker 4: On my list?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll go number four Strawberry.
Speaker 2: You just rattle off some of your lists. Can we
Speaker 2: just like get just rapid fire?
Speaker 4: So online?
Speaker 1: Is Brian?
Speaker 4: Go into the sea.
Speaker 2: There's done that yet.
Speaker 4: But it was a long time since I had gone
Speaker 4: into the sea. So I did it. I did it.
Speaker 2: I wait, like, sounds like you're about to kill yourself.
Speaker 4: Just walk in, walk into the sea wearing a heavy coat.
Speaker 2: Go into the sea.
Speaker 3: Okay, you your dad's number one boy.
Speaker 1: I love this list.
Speaker 4: Okay, Uh, spend a continuous month in New York, which
Speaker 4: I did. I did that last year. Uh make you.
Speaker 2: Live there for years?
Speaker 1: He grew up.
Speaker 4: Now now now that I live in l I want
Speaker 4: to go back to New York and spend a frae
Speaker 4: month there and I did. Okay, make a Genoese sponge.
Speaker 2: I like this list a lot. Have you done that
Speaker 2: one yet? No?
Speaker 4: I can't figure it out.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Friede, You're failing. It's got to be some kind
Speaker 2: of fucking cake.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's something they have to frequently make from scratch on
Speaker 4: the Great British Bakeoff. So I was like, I should
Speaker 4: how to do this? Which you have forty things? You
Speaker 4: got to make it achievable?
Speaker 2: What we need more? I'm sorry, I gotta keep going here.
Speaker 1: Make a trifle.
Speaker 4: No, there also is make a chocolate soup flee, which
Speaker 4: I haven't done yet either. That's hard.
Speaker 2: Let's go through the ones you haven't done.
Speaker 4: Okay, Uh, visit my mom's house in Florida. I have
Speaker 4: not done yet.
Speaker 3: Something everybody should do. I know what, everybody, if you're
Speaker 3: listening right now, put this on your forty under forty list.
Speaker 3: Visit Bryan's mom's.
Speaker 4: House in Florida. Go to Iceland. I haven't done that.
Speaker 4: I was supposed to go in twenty twenty, and obviously
Speaker 4: we couldn't. Well, there was a bear attack and ice. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: we got until we take care of this bear and
Speaker 4: no one can come in.
Speaker 3: Hey, Brian, you know what we should do is the
Speaker 3: next time there's a volcano there, we should just buy
Speaker 3: a ticket to Iceland immediately and go see the volcano.
Speaker 4: Well, I have to go.
Speaker 2: All ask me to go on any spontaneous trips, and
Speaker 2: you've asked Brian, that's not true.
Speaker 3: I'm always asking Nikdi going trips and she's like, no,
Speaker 3: I just can't. I can't make any time for it.
Speaker 3: And then it's like open in a week, we're doing
Speaker 3: another girl's trip.
Speaker 2: But you never say specifics like I want to go
Speaker 2: try a strawberry. I like a goal. I feel like
Speaker 2: we're just gonna go over there and walk around aimlessly.
Speaker 2: I like, I'll go, I'll go eat.
Speaker 3: A strawberry, and me and Brian have stuff for the
Speaker 3: next three years.
Speaker 2: So wow, seven, Okay, give me, give us a couple more.
Speaker 4: Brian, Okay. I want to read all the memoirs on
Speaker 4: my bookshelf, which is a lot that I haven't done. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and they're all they're all comedians' memoirs. And I like
Speaker 4: to only read memoirs of people who are over sixty
Speaker 4: because I don't think that they have enough knowledge and wisdom.
Speaker 3: If they're under sixty, you can fly through prior convictions
Speaker 3: and Born Standing Up those take.
Speaker 4: Like, oh, already read Born Standing Up? Who's prior conviction?
Speaker 4: Has Richard Pryor.
Speaker 3: Richard Pryor and then Sam Kinnison's brother Sam. I think
Speaker 3: is that one takes a little bit right now I'm
Speaker 3: on the Oh oh god, okay, I gotta do that one.
Speaker 4: The best one I've ever read. The best memoir I've
Speaker 4: ever read from a comedian so far is Dean and
Speaker 4: Me by Jerry Lewis. It is, it is the most
Speaker 4: it's the most succinct. It's focused on his relationship with
Speaker 4: Dean Martin. It made me, it made me so emotional,
Speaker 4: just the whole one.
Speaker 2: We read memoirs and autobiographies. Will you read a biography?
Speaker 4: No, I'll only read it if it's written by the person.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, sorry, tell us why the woman was so good?
Speaker 4: Dean and Me is it's not framed. Also, Norm's memoir
Speaker 4: I read it was really good. Obviously he's not serious
Speaker 4: in it. But Dean and Me is focused on it's
Speaker 4: it's framed like a love story between Jerry Lewis and
Speaker 4: Dean Martin, and it's it's not like I was born
Speaker 4: this year and then I went to this school and
Speaker 4: then this was my mom was like, this was what
Speaker 4: my dad was like. It like a lot of memoirs
Speaker 4: will just like go through all the facts of someone's life.
Speaker 4: Dean and Me focuses on the day Jerry Lewis met
Speaker 4: Dean Martin, and then their relationship, how they their careers
Speaker 4: rose together, and how they had a falling out, like
Speaker 4: a relationship breaking up, and then it and then Jerry
Speaker 4: Lewis was still alive when he wrote the book. Obviously
Speaker 4: when it came out, he didn't write he was still alive.
Speaker 4: I think Dean Martin was dead though, and he wrote
Speaker 4: about after many years them reconnecting on one of the telethons,
Speaker 4: and the book ended. It didn't go like and now
Speaker 4: that I'm this age, now I'm doing this. It was like,
Speaker 4: it's about that focus thing. And I think that's that
Speaker 4: should be a lesson for anyone who wants to write
Speaker 4: a memoir. Focus it on a narrative. Focus it on
Speaker 4: a specific thing. Don't just make it a like a
Speaker 4: layer a list of facts going through the timeline of
Speaker 4: your life. Nobody really wants to know every single thing,
Speaker 4: the street you grew up on and stuff. Make it
Speaker 4: focused on a narrative, all right, That's why it was
Speaker 4: so good.
Speaker 3: Are there any memoirs that you're in two clays?
Speaker 2: Wait, are you setting me up for something. No, Oh,
Speaker 2: that was nice of you to just ask. That's a
Speaker 2: really good question. And it seems like you're really good
Speaker 2: at your job of being on radio.
Speaker 3: And I just want to say thank you for thank you, Yeah,
Speaker 3: because like that means a lot to me.
Speaker 2: I will say that I love the Johnny Carson biography,
Speaker 2: which was an unauthorized biography by his lawyer who is
Speaker 2: his best friend. I'm it's fucking good, dude. That guy
Speaker 2: was a monster, complicated, sad, but like obviously a legend
Speaker 2: and written by someone who loved him very much. But
Speaker 2: that is really good. And someone with like that mom
Speaker 2: would never love him enough and was never proud of him.
Speaker 2: There's one scene where he like, you know, buys his
Speaker 2: mama house and she's just and he's, you know, hosting
Speaker 2: the Tonight Show. He's like the most famous man in
Speaker 2: the country, and his mom is just like, I don't
Speaker 2: like it. Like she just will never she'd never say
Speaker 2: she's proud of him. She will never give him anything.
Speaker 2: And it's the root of everything that he does. It's
Speaker 2: so interesting.
Speaker 1: I like Nora Ephron's I Think I Hate my neck
Speaker 1: or I hate my neck. So good anything that related
Speaker 1: so much, Like, Yeah, I just remember one line she
Speaker 1: said something like, I have been to so many rock
Speaker 1: concerts with so many incredible bands and incredible musicians, and
Speaker 1: every time, all I'm thinking is where are we going
Speaker 1: to dinner afterwards? And what will I order?
Speaker 2: It makes me feel so good because we were at
Speaker 2: a museum yesterday and that's all I was thinking of
Speaker 2: the entire time. See, I feel so seen. I was
Speaker 2: at this museum. People are doing what like people at
Speaker 2: museums love looking at art. I just don't buy it.
Speaker 2: I think they just want to be like we went
Speaker 2: to the museum today, Like they just go to it
Speaker 2: so they can say they did it. They don't actually
Speaker 2: like you see a couple of things that you go,
Speaker 2: that's cool, but ninety percent of stuff in museums is
Speaker 2: you're just like, who kives a shit? You know, like
Speaker 2: I just don't buy that it's that that it's that cool.
Speaker 2: But thank god for them, because artist important.
Speaker 4: You posted your Instagram stories that were the oh look
Speaker 4: at Nikki's Instagram stories if they're still up from yesterday,
Speaker 4: because oh no.
Speaker 2: All screenshot them and put them on our with this
Speaker 2: episode the boy, Thank you boy, Yeah, thank you all right,
Speaker 2: So go check that out on our Instagram. Check out
Speaker 2: the podcast on our YouTube channel. Go subscribe. Thank you
Speaker 2: so much for doing this podcast, Chris and Anya and
Speaker 2: Brian and Noah, and we will be back in the
Speaker 2: States for the next iteration of this podcast. Thank you
Speaker 2: for joining us overseas, and thank you all the besties
Speaker 2: that have come out to the shows. It's been so
Speaker 2: much fun. And we'll see you in the States. Uh,
Speaker 2: don't Bika and just knock those forty before you're forty out.