WEBVTT - The Mass Formation Psychosis That Never Was

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<v Speaker 1>Alright, Robert, do you want to open it us up

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<v Speaker 1>with something I don't know. Nope, you're opening the opening

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<v Speaker 1>is is that is what you just did? Okay, well

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<v Speaker 1>it's already opened. Welcome to take it happen here the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast about how things things do be crumbling sometimes, including

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<v Speaker 1>our ability to introduce the podcast that it's actually a

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<v Speaker 1>very meta art piece about the Yeah, we started off

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<v Speaker 1>very polished and slowly commentary on I don't know something.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called figure out what. It's a commentary on it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called metamodernism. It's the post it's post postmodern. Anyway, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>what are we talking about? Disinformation and various bullshit today?

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<v Speaker 1>So among the many disinformation vectors online, Joe Rogan's podcast

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<v Speaker 1>is obviously one off, like the largest single single vectors. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I've said this before, but I'll say it again.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's a cable news station as influential

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<v Speaker 1>as Joe Rogan, you know, and you could you could

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<v Speaker 1>make commentary on like, oh maybe they have a larger

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<v Speaker 1>viewership in terms of like their actual ability to influence

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<v Speaker 1>large numbers of people. Um, there's certainly no single cable

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<v Speaker 1>news host that comes close to Joe Um, and I

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<v Speaker 1>would argue, probably no network that does. He's extremely influential

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<v Speaker 1>by virtue of the fact that he's Um a meathead

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<v Speaker 1>of people seem to find friendly and engaging, and he

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<v Speaker 1>is very charismatic. He's good at what he does, he's

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<v Speaker 1>good at talking. Yeah. So, multiple times during the past

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<v Speaker 1>three weeks, Rogan has brought on two separate quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>doctors who have started to pedal something called mass formation psychosis,

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<v Speaker 1>which is kind of a new vector in the anti

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<v Speaker 1>vax kind of argument and like headspace, so like as

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<v Speaker 1>for like the it could happen near portion of the episode,

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<v Speaker 1>This one's pretty simple. Could mass formations like this happen here?

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<v Speaker 1>No way, not this time. We created it, not this time, No,

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<v Speaker 1>not this time. It's totally made up, pure fiction. It's fiction.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fiction. We made it up. We made this one up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a made up tail. It's a total fabrication. Nope,

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<v Speaker 1>not really ever happened anywhere. I might also argue, no, nope, fiction,

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<v Speaker 1>We've solved the podcast, total fabric This is not a thing,

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<v Speaker 1>total fabrication, made up tail. So yeah, well, but when

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<v Speaker 1>whenever these like cook doctors bring up mass formation psychoses.

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<v Speaker 1>You can actually kind of watch them get close to

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<v Speaker 1>understanding something real, but then they veer off into reactionary nonsense.

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<v Speaker 1>Like most powerful nonsense, there is an element of truth

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<v Speaker 1>that it is uh spinning off of, you know. So

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<v Speaker 1>let let's start off with some of the more kind

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<v Speaker 1>of deranged examples and well then eventually providing at least

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<v Speaker 1>some background onto the whole mastormation psychoa, this this idea,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll kind of discuss some of the more

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<v Speaker 1>slightly interesting aspects of this argument that Eurogan seems fond

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<v Speaker 1>of pushing right now. So, the first guy I want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about is Dr Peter McCole, which is not

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<v Speaker 1>the not the guy that was trending on Twitter last

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<v Speaker 1>week or whatever this was. This is someone else that

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<v Speaker 1>Rogan brought on a few weeks previously, who actually started

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<v Speaker 1>talking about this first. Um So background on McCole. By

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<v Speaker 1>most accounts, he was like a top cardiologist for many years,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. He he shares a similar story to other

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<v Speaker 1>doctors who have become kind of COVID conspiracy celebrities. Former

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<v Speaker 1>friends and co workers say he was a pretty reasonable

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<v Speaker 1>guy and a good doctor, and then COVID he realized

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<v Speaker 1>he could be worth millions of dollars, Yeah, covid head

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<v Speaker 1>that he started to kind of go off the rails,

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<v Speaker 1>and he he initially began to helpin conspiracy theories in

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<v Speaker 1>particular around hydroxy chloro quinn um. And McColl was also

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<v Speaker 1>in the news earlier this year due to I guess uh,

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<v Speaker 1>due to a legal dispute with his former employer, Baylor

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<v Speaker 1>University Health. So, according to a lawsuit, for nearly six

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<v Speaker 1>months after McCall's employment had ended, he continued to use

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<v Speaker 1>his professional titles such as the Vice Chief of Internal

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<v Speaker 1>Medicine at Baylor University, and this represented himself as a

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<v Speaker 1>Baylor employee dozens if not hundreds of times in media

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<v Speaker 1>interviews in which he spread disinformation about the pandemic. So

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<v Speaker 1>the type of misinformation that he talks about, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty basic stuff of vaccines are neither safe nor effective. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a very early hydroxical organ proponent. Um. He

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<v Speaker 1>claims that there's no asymptomatic COVID transmission at all, even

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not vaccinated. Um. And he claims that you

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<v Speaker 1>cannot get COVID twice once you have at once the

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<v Speaker 1>post infection natural immunity is a protective against all future

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<v Speaker 1>COVID disease, which of course work. Yeah. No, everything I

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<v Speaker 1>just said is not true. All of it can individually

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<v Speaker 1>be disproved by the existence of Jayere Bosonaro. Single say that, Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking over at my digital picture frame that is

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<v Speaker 1>just loaded with like a dozen photos of JayR bolson

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<v Speaker 1>Yaro in the hospital dying. Um. Yeah, I recommend everyone

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<v Speaker 1>do that. It improves every morning as soon as I

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<v Speaker 1>walk up to my recording studio, I see JayR bolson

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<v Speaker 1>Yaro getting ship sucked out of his nose from a tube,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just feel ready to take on the day.

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<v Speaker 1>It beats coffee. Wow, that's strong words. Um. The other

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<v Speaker 1>big thing and since how since I want to get

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<v Speaker 1>into the mess, uh psychosis bullshit is that he McCall

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<v Speaker 1>also asserts that fifty Americans have died from the vaccine shots.

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<v Speaker 1>This is not true. Um. Looking at like deaths possibly

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<v Speaker 1>associated with it, it is like maybe a thousand or

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand, which sucks. Um. And but like that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>the highest amount because again it's not even a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these things are not necessarily direct directly causal. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So It's hard to figure out what is what. But

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<v Speaker 1>if there is a number, it's around the two wish

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<v Speaker 1>thousand range. Uh not um and McCall thinks that, or

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<v Speaker 1>at least promotes that the idea that like the vaccine,

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<v Speaker 1>is a conspiracy theory to suppress hydroxical wor quin and

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<v Speaker 1>therapeutic treatment for COVID. And this conspiracy is organized at

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<v Speaker 1>every level, uh three different regions, corporations, big Pharma, Hollywood,

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<v Speaker 1>and and this is this is the mass formation psychosis

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<v Speaker 1>is that we've believed that both COVID is like a

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<v Speaker 1>big problem and that the vaccine is the solution. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna play a clip hopefully you guys

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<v Speaker 1>can hear this of of McColl talking about mass formation psychosis. Dope,

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen mass psychosis in history before the horrific group

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<v Speaker 1>suicides that have happened with religious culture. We knew a

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<v Speaker 1>Nazi Germany where people in a sense offer their children

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<v Speaker 1>up to eugenics programs and a progressive mass psychosis, and

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<v Speaker 1>they themselves walk into gas chambers and my gas, they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't kick fight, go kicking, screaming. This type of that's

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<v Speaker 1>a mass psychosis. So what Desmond says is it must

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<v Speaker 1>be four conditions met for a mass psychosis. The Firth

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<v Speaker 1>is the population must be isolated. People must be isolated

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<v Speaker 1>for a plot period. Number two, we must have things

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<v Speaker 1>taken away from us that we previously enjoy. Number three,

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<v Speaker 1>there must be constant, free floating anxiety. Anxiety of more

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<v Speaker 1>virus is more disability, more depth, more anxiety. And then

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<v Speaker 1>the last one is that kap Or Number four is

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<v Speaker 1>there must be a single solution offered by an entity

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<v Speaker 1>and authority, the vaccine. The only solution to the pandemic

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<v Speaker 1>is the vaccine. We're in a mass hychosis. And what

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<v Speaker 1>Desmond says is with the vaccine, there is no limit

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<v Speaker 1>to the absurdity that we will see, no limit to

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<v Speaker 1>the absurdy. So this idea of here, take a vaccine,

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<v Speaker 1>Take any vaccine. That's absurd. Vaccines are different. There must

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<v Speaker 1>be a winner, there must be a loser, there must

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<v Speaker 1>be somebody why why would it be any vaccine. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the same with the mask where masks. It doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of mask, just put it over your face. Absurdity,

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<v Speaker 1>the absurdity of well, I've already had COVID, the CDC says,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't get COVID again. Okay, so listeners at home

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<v Speaker 1>should know so that you understand what this video is

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<v Speaker 1>that the entire time he's talking, there's what appears to

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<v Speaker 1>be the eviscerated corpse of a black woman lying underneath it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's terrifying. It's like very like something. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's like one of the dolls that medical students learned

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<v Speaker 1>how to do autopsies on. It's not a real person,

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<v Speaker 1>but it does look like the corpse of an eviscerated

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<v Speaker 1>woman as he's just like chatting face really does look

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<v Speaker 1>like it took me. I thought it was like I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't forget what was going on for like yeah, I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they're the cadaver dolls that they have for trading. Are

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<v Speaker 1>quite good. Um, I kind of want to get one

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<v Speaker 1>for the next time I'm in Texas and want to

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<v Speaker 1>use an HIV lane. But that's the story for another day.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's that's pretty dumb, especially the notion that

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<v Speaker 1>people were hypnotized into peacefully walking into gas. I just

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<v Speaker 1>need to stay like that's the not not only is

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<v Speaker 1>that like that is objectively untrue to the extent that

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<v Speaker 1>I could provide anyone interested with thousands of pages of

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<v Speaker 1>reading from people who survived concentration camps about how they

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<v Speaker 1>worked and why people walked into them, and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of it just boils down to the fact that it

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<v Speaker 1>was they were making a very rational choice, which was

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<v Speaker 1>I have no options here. I cannot get out of this,

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<v Speaker 1>but I can at least make sure that my children

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<v Speaker 1>are not panicking in the last seconds before we're killed.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of the people the the because a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the actual like grunt work of key of

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<v Speaker 1>loading humans into the gas chambers was done by other

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<v Speaker 1>inmates who were also not going through psychosis. They were

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<v Speaker 1>given a chance to survive longer by helping to operate

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<v Speaker 1>the camps UM and those people you can read some

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<v Speaker 1>of them did survive UM, and some of them wrote

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<v Speaker 1>about their experiences UM, which is some of the most

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<v Speaker 1>harrowing shit like imaginable for a human being to possibly

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<v Speaker 1>go through. It is all tremendously well documented, and the

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<v Speaker 1>most offensive thing I can imagine is saying that these

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<v Speaker 1>people were somehow is saying Number one, it's incredibly offensive

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<v Speaker 1>to say that they were going through some sort of psychosis,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why they walked into the chambers and not

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<v Speaker 1>this was the best option available to them, given what

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<v Speaker 1>was going on and what like the situation they had

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<v Speaker 1>been forced into. They did not have other options. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>It was that or get machine gunned to death. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe you think you would choose a different option. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you're critiquing them or trying to claim that

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<v Speaker 1>like the only reason they would do that what they

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<v Speaker 1>did was that they had lost their minds. Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>will I will hit you in the face with a brick,

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<v Speaker 1>fuck you like that. That that's my answer to that. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>if you are someone who is interested academically and why

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<v Speaker 1>people did some of the things that they did at

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<v Speaker 1>at the death camps, um, and like why how that

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<v Speaker 1>actually functioned psychologically. It's like a short book. It's this

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<v Speaker 1>way for the gas ladies and gentlemen. And it is

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<v Speaker 1>a quasi fictionalized book by a guy named Taddius Borowski

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<v Speaker 1>who was a survivor of the death camp. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>based on his experiences at Auschwitz and Dachau. UM. And

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<v Speaker 1>he he describes the way in which the world of

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<v Speaker 1>the camps worked and the psychology of the camps worked. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's not and He's not a piece of ship

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<v Speaker 1>grifter asshole. He's a guy who lived through all of this.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you actually care about any of this, just

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<v Speaker 1>read that everything this guy says is wrong, and if

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<v Speaker 1>I had a chance to, I would hit him in

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<v Speaker 1>the face with a brick. Please continue, Garrison. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>really sucks because it's not just a combination of medical

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<v Speaker 1>misinformation but also just the most ship sociology um. And

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<v Speaker 1>it creates this a really a really disgusting package of

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<v Speaker 1>of of really bad sociology medical misinformation um. And like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing this too, like because he can make a

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<v Speaker 1>profit off of it. So he's saying these things. So

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<v Speaker 1>I know, Um, he mentioned a name, Desmond. Desmond's the

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<v Speaker 1>guy who kind of coined this term. We'll we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about more about him at the end, but for now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go on an ad break and we'll be back

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about Dr Robert Malone, the other other guy

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<v Speaker 1>who's been pushing this nonsense. So I probably will want

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<v Speaker 1>to hit with a brick even more so, honestly, And

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<v Speaker 1>we're back talking now about mass information psychosis and the

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<v Speaker 1>dumb people who are or smart people who are using

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're evil that tough. So yeah, so after after

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<v Speaker 1>McCall went on Rogan's show, it got that that show

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<v Speaker 1>got pretty popular. Um One, one big right wing kind

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<v Speaker 1>of trumpett media personality named Melissa Tate was permanently banned

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<v Speaker 1>from Twitter after posting about the podcast and making the

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<v Speaker 1>following post to her half a million followers, Global bombshell.

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<v Speaker 1>Dr Peter McCall on The Joe Rogan Show says Maderna

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<v Speaker 1>made the code vaccine long before COVID actually hit, and

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<v Speaker 1>that the pandemic was a premeditated and concerted scheme by

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<v Speaker 1>government and medical entities to then force vaccinations as the solution.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the type of narrative that they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>foster because the pandemics has been so good for Biden's

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<v Speaker 1>approval ratings, it's really working out great for everybody. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>us U S Senator Ron Johnson also promoted the interview,

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<v Speaker 1>saying Rogan asks excellent questions and McColl provides the answers.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah. Um So, apparently the mass formation psychosis Doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Guy was enough of a hit that Rogan's team decided

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<v Speaker 1>to very soon after bring on another line, conspiracy doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Dr Robert Malone. So During the last week, Rogan invited

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<v Speaker 1>Malone onto his show. Malone's of of a virologist and

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<v Speaker 1>a immunization doctor who claims credit for inventing the m

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<v Speaker 1>r n A vaccine in a pair of papers from

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<v Speaker 1>the late eighties spoilers, He did not there was on

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<v Speaker 1>the vaccine before him, and work continued after him. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>um yeah, And in eighty nine he published a paper

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<v Speaker 1>um kind of positing maybe mr NA can be binded

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<v Speaker 1>with with other kind of uh proteins. He did not

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<v Speaker 1>really do any work on it besides just saying I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if this could maybe happen um, And then he

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<v Speaker 1>decided into this dude a bit. Okay, we're people asking

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<v Speaker 1>similar questions and publishing papers at the same time of

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<v Speaker 1>the question and yeah yeah. So Malone actually thought this

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<v Speaker 1>was too hard and abandoned this project very soon and

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<v Speaker 1>then went to work for like the military to develop

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<v Speaker 1>other random like uh. He thought the RNA vaccines were

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<v Speaker 1>too hard, so he went on to develop more stuff

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<v Speaker 1>around DNA vaccines and has been working with like the

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<v Speaker 1>military and various like a big farmer companies fund vaccines

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<v Speaker 1>for a while. More accurately, Dr Carrico and Drew Wiseman

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<v Speaker 1>are two doctors that are widely agreed and acknowledged to

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<v Speaker 1>have put the most development work and actual like like

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<v Speaker 1>actually doing the science to make m m RNA vaccines

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<v Speaker 1>a thing. Um. And the of course development of them

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<v Speaker 1>was due to you know, work of hundreds of researchers. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's not you know, one person does not

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<v Speaker 1>invent something like this. It's it's a group of a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people. But but it makes it for an

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<v Speaker 1>easy title for your viral video. Yeah, and in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>actually um uh, logically, the that's a journalist website reached

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<v Speaker 1>out to Malone and for an article, and Malone replied

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<v Speaker 1>Black stating that he did not actually literally invent the

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<v Speaker 1>uh the vaccine, but instead developed a vaccine technology platform. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he presented logically copies with nine patents, um, none

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<v Speaker 1>of which are the patents for functioning mrn A vaccines

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<v Speaker 1>of course. Um. But but he he claims to have

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<v Speaker 1>patented mr in A technology. I mean he did, it's

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<v Speaker 1>technology that doesn't work and never has and never has worked,

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<v Speaker 1>and the patents are expired. Um. Anyway, I need to

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<v Speaker 1>pat some ship. That just sounds like a real easy

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<v Speaker 1>way to make a good grift. Yeah. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as we've seen with my with but because because Malone

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<v Speaker 1>has crafted this you know, narrative that I'm the inventor

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<v Speaker 1>of this thing. You know. Look, just like we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>with my like COVID griff named Doctor's episode behind the Bastards,

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<v Speaker 1>just a little shred of like medical authority can be

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<v Speaker 1>more often transformed with propaganda into something much greater than

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<v Speaker 1>what it is, you know, whether that be claiming to

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<v Speaker 1>be the inventor of the m RNA or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>claiming to be the former Heads scientist adviser. Neither of

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<v Speaker 1>those have to actually be true to work, because propaganda

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<v Speaker 1>makes it true via like repetition. So yeah, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing where like dunking on these guys like

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<v Speaker 1>it's important here to correct the record, it doesn't do anything. No,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that they and nothing that they say is

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<v Speaker 1>true does not matter when it comes to them having

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<v Speaker 1>an influence in the community they have. If you get

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<v Speaker 1>on Rogan, it doesn't like like you've already done the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that you need to do to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>to profit from this. It doesn't matter that you're lying.

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<v Speaker 1>A few months ago, Malone went on to Steve Bannon

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<v Speaker 1>Show to talk about how the vaccines make COVID worse worse. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know this is this is the quote from

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Bannon. You're hearing it from the individual who invented

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<v Speaker 1>the m R and a vaccine and has dedicated his

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<v Speaker 1>life to vaccines. He's the opposite of an anti vaxer, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's it's that tipularity. So yeah, start starting

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<v Speaker 1>around June one, Malone began to make the rounds, you know, Bannon, Tucker,

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<v Speaker 1>Glenn beck Um and now Joe Rogan. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>starting in June, he had like less than five thousand

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter followers. Uh and just before his suspension at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of December for spreading misinformation, he had like over

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<v Speaker 1>half million. Um. So yeah, So right after his Twitter

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<v Speaker 1>suspension for lying about COVID and causing you know, misinformation

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<v Speaker 1>to run to to run rampant around a health issue. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when Rogan invited him on. It was right after

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<v Speaker 1>he got suspended from Twitter. And there's been one particular

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<v Speaker 1>clip from the interview that has really caught like the

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<v Speaker 1>far right's attention. Um, you know the tweet that's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's connected to is captioned on Joe Rogan. Dr Robert

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<v Speaker 1>Malone suggests we are living through a mass formations like coast.

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<v Speaker 1>He explains how and why this could happen and its effects.

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<v Speaker 1>He draws analogy to the nineteen twenties and thirties Germany.

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<v Speaker 1>They had a highly educated population and they went barking mad.

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<v Speaker 1>Um did not. They made a series of logical The

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<v Speaker 1>Nazis did not go mad. They were not crazy, They

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<v Speaker 1>were not out of their mind. They were doing they

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<v Speaker 1>were a large part of what they were doing was

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<v Speaker 1>saying things that they knew were nonsense and lies in

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<v Speaker 1>order to get elected because it riled people up. And

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<v Speaker 1>then a large chunk of their policy was figuring out, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if this is the ship that we've been saying, how

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<v Speaker 1>do we how do we translate that into policy? Again,

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<v Speaker 1>realms have been written on this by credible researchers. The

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<v Speaker 1>people who ran the camps were not insane, although they

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<v Speaker 1>were often deeply depressed in suicidal because it's not good

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<v Speaker 1>to run a death camp. They were all making rational decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>And the people who let it happen, we're letting it

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<v Speaker 1>happen because it was dangerous and scary to interfere in

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<v Speaker 1>any way. They were all making rational decisions. There was

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<v Speaker 1>no insanity responsible for the Holocaust, which is worse like

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<v Speaker 1>in the Party everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're what they're doing is like they're they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to give people a way out right like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this is this is sort of like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's well, the Nazis went insane. All people who follow

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<v Speaker 1>them when and saying it's like no, no, they don't.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't get that way out like you they chose

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<v Speaker 1>to do this. Yeah. The the scariest and most meaningful

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<v Speaker 1>lesson to take from the Holocaust is that you yourself

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<v Speaker 1>could be a part of a Holocaust, even if you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't support the killing, because it's extremely easy to not

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<v Speaker 1>get involved and stop something like that once it reaches

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<v Speaker 1>a certain level, and it's easy for the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>political organizations that can make things like that possible to

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<v Speaker 1>reach a point where they can carry that sort of

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<v Speaker 1>ship out because again, it's scary to fucking fight them. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's want the clips like a minute long, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's worth watching to see both in the context

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<v Speaker 1>of when Rogan decides to interject and when he decides

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<v Speaker 1>not to basically European intellectual inquiry into what the heck

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<v Speaker 1>happened this guy already in the twenties and thirties, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>very intelligent, highly educated population and they went barking mad

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<v Speaker 1>um And how did that happen? Um? The answer is

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<v Speaker 1>mass formation psychosis when you have a society that has

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<v Speaker 1>become decoupled from each other and has free floating anxiety

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<v Speaker 1>in a sense that things don't make sense, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>understand it, and then their attention gets focused by a

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<v Speaker 1>leader or a series of events on one small point.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like hypnosis, they literally become hypnotized and can be

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<v Speaker 1>led anywhere. And one of the aspects of that phenomena

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<v Speaker 1>is the people that they identify as their leaders, the

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<v Speaker 1>ones typically that come in and say, you have this pain,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can solve it for you. I and I alone, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>can fix this problem for you. Okay. Then they will lead.

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<v Speaker 1>They will follow that person through how it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>whether they lie to them or whatever. The data are irrelevant.

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<v Speaker 1>And furthermore, anybody who questioned that narrative is to be

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<v Speaker 1>immediately attacked. They are the other. This is central to

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<v Speaker 1>mass formation psychosis. And this is what has happened. We

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<v Speaker 1>had all those conditions. If you remember back before, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>was complaining the world doesn't make sense, blah blah blah. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're all isolated from each other, We're all on

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<v Speaker 1>our little tools. We're not connected socially anymore except through

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<v Speaker 1>social media. UM. And then this thing happened and everybody

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<v Speaker 1>focused on it. That is how mass formation psychosis happens.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is what's happened here. Horrible, completely wrong um

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<v Speaker 1>in every single way. UM. They the Germans were not

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<v Speaker 1>confused because nothing made sense. They were angry because of

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<v Speaker 1>the terms of the Treaty of Versailles. That were also

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<v Speaker 1>angry because of what they saw as and what like,

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<v Speaker 1>because of a myth that had grown up about why

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<v Speaker 1>they had lost the First World War, which was spread

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<v Speaker 1>by people who were the equivalent in that time of

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Rogan. They were scared of the left, of communism,

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<v Speaker 1>of disorder, of riots in the streets. Um. And one.

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<v Speaker 1>When Hitler took power, most Germans did not like him.

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<v Speaker 1>They did not blindly follow him. He gradually gained the

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<v Speaker 1>vast the support of the vast majority of Germany through

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<v Speaker 1>a number of different, very logical things. One thing that

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<v Speaker 1>he did that got him a lot of support was

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<v Speaker 1>he took businesses and homes and money from Jewish people

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<v Speaker 1>and from members of other groups that the Nazis were targeting,

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<v Speaker 1>and he gave it to Arians. There was a direct

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<v Speaker 1>financial interest for a lot of people who got in

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<v Speaker 1>line behind the Nazis, and he established a series of

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<v Speaker 1>programs like the Strength through Joy program that really did

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<v Speaker 1>benefit in a way that they had not known before

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<v Speaker 1>the German working class. Um. And a lot of this

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<v Speaker 1>was again subsidized through the appropriations of things that had

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<v Speaker 1>been owned by people that the Nazis were targeting. People

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<v Speaker 1>fell in line behind Hitler for logical reasons. He did

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<v Speaker 1>not reach the highest point of his support from the

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<v Speaker 1>German populace until the taking of Paris, which obviously that

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<v Speaker 1>was something that a lot of Germans supported. They had

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<v Speaker 1>spent four years failing to take the city in World

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<v Speaker 1>War One. UM. Anyway, sorry, it's all nonsense, it's all lies.

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<v Speaker 1>I think. The reason why this is latching on so

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<v Speaker 1>much to people on the right, like people on the

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<v Speaker 1>right who who don't consider themselves fascists, who who think

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<v Speaker 1>who would say Nazis are bad right there. They still

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<v Speaker 1>are latching onto this because it provides a way for

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<v Speaker 1>them to not understand how fascism actually works. Right. It

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<v Speaker 1>provides an alternative explanation that makes them not have to

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<v Speaker 1>actually think about what fascism is. Um. And that's why

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<v Speaker 1>they're latching onto it. And it also is already it's

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<v Speaker 1>already a part of the conspiracies they have around vaccines

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<v Speaker 1>and power structures. So because because it's the conspiratorial basis,

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<v Speaker 1>instead of like thinking about power structures from like an

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<v Speaker 1>anarchist or like like higher archy lens, it reinforces the

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<v Speaker 1>world views they have and makes them not have to

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<v Speaker 1>interrogate the ones that they don't want to. UM it sucks.

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<v Speaker 1>Malone's substack goes into more of this and it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty bad. There's a this is a few quotes

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<v Speaker 1>that I think really kind of tied this together, and

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<v Speaker 1>then he has some horrible statistics. Um. He says, as

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<v Speaker 1>many of you know, I've spent time researching and speaking

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<v Speaker 1>about mass psychosis theory. Most of what I've learned is

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<v Speaker 1>come from Dr Desmond. Dr Desmond is like the guy

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<v Speaker 1>who pointed this term UM and uh Malone, writes Desmond

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<v Speaker 1>realized that this form of mass hypnosis, the madness of crowds,

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<v Speaker 1>can account for the strange phenomenon of about of the

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<v Speaker 1>population in the Western world becoming entrenched with the noble

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<v Speaker 1>lies and dominant narrative concerning the safety and effectiveness of

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<v Speaker 1>the genetic vaccines, and both propagated and enforced by politicians,

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<v Speaker 1>science bureaucrats, pharmaceutical companies, and legacy media. Of course, the

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<v Speaker 1>obvious examples of masformation is Germany in the thirties and forties.

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<v Speaker 1>How could the German people, who are highly educated, very

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<v Speaker 1>liberal in the classic sense, Western thinking people, how could

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<v Speaker 1>they go crazy and do what they did to the Jews?

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<v Speaker 1>How could this happen to a civilized people. A leader

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<v Speaker 1>of a mass formation movement will use the platform to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to pump the group of information to focus on.

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:17.480
<v Speaker 1>In the case of COVID nineteen, I like to use

0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:20.879
<v Speaker 1>the term fear porn. Leaders through mainstream media and government

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:24.040
<v Speaker 1>channel and government channels continuously feed the beast with more

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:28.880
<v Speaker 1>messaging that further hypnotize their adherents. Studies suggest that mass

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<v Speaker 1>formation follows a general distribution people are brainwashed and hypnotized

0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:39.160
<v Speaker 1>fully doctor in the group narrative in the middle are

0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:42.240
<v Speaker 1>persuaded and may follow if know where the alternatives perceived,

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<v Speaker 1>And thirty percent will fight the narrative. Those who rebel

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:48.080
<v Speaker 1>and fight against the narrative become the enemy of the

0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:53.119
<v Speaker 1>brainwashed and the primary target of aggression. So that's the

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:56.320
<v Speaker 1>way he thinks. That is how which is really it's

0:26:56.320 --> 0:27:00.080
<v Speaker 1>really subject like in terms of how he's building a

0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 1>narrative in his head and specifically building a narrative for

0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:06.480
<v Speaker 1>other people's heads to to view. Why do I feel

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<v Speaker 1>distrustful of certain pieces of power but love other pieces

0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 1>of power? Yeah, And it's again like this idea that

0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 1>like well, Germany was liberals there, Germany had an enormous

0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:20.080
<v Speaker 1>right wing movement, Like it was a hugely conservative country

0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of ways. It would also had a

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 1>lot of leftist organizing and a lot of leftists in it,

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:27.359
<v Speaker 1>especially after World War One, But like the Fry Corps ship,

0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:31.560
<v Speaker 1>there were these massive millions strong right wing armed street

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:35.040
<v Speaker 1>movements that existed for the entirety of the Weimar Republic.

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:38.879
<v Speaker 1>Like it's again everything he says is wrong. Yeah, And

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:42.600
<v Speaker 1>again it's like the notion that like are fully burnwashed,

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:46.359
<v Speaker 1>are in the middle and persuadable fight the narrative. It's

0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:48.320
<v Speaker 1>like these these people who are upset, these like these

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:51.639
<v Speaker 1>specifically conservatives, were obsessed about thinking like I would have

0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:54.280
<v Speaker 1>fought the Nazis. And because they don't understand how fashions

0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 1>and works and powerdynamics, they don't understand how how they're

0:27:57.960 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 1>actually getting pulled into the same thing. But they still

0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 1>view themselves as the rebel right. They there's right, yeah,

0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:09.080
<v Speaker 1>like they're still focused on being yeah's absolutely like they're

0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:11.600
<v Speaker 1>still focused on being the rebel and like we're rebelling

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 1>against the vaccine that that is just like rebelling against

0:28:14.080 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 1>the Nazis. And you're like, what, um, so I just

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:22.080
<v Speaker 1>want to say about those numbers, if they're too completely

0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:24.840
<v Speaker 1>made up? Yeah, yeah, when when people start throwing even

0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:27.600
<v Speaker 1>numbers statistic exactly like that, it's because they're lying. Yeah,

0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:35.920
<v Speaker 1>it's because yeah, yeah, absolutely not. Yeah, that's that's complete nonsense.

0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 1>For one. Yeah, it's so so I get because now,

0:28:41.960 --> 0:28:43.920
<v Speaker 1>the other thing that happened around this interview, because it

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:46.480
<v Speaker 1>didn't give a lot of traction among the right, is

0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:49.080
<v Speaker 1>that whenever these things gain traction, they also developed conspiracy

0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:51.560
<v Speaker 1>theories that people are trying to suppress it. Like look

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:54.560
<v Speaker 1>at the Google algorithm when you type in certain keywords

0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:56.840
<v Speaker 1>like I know that. The day this was trending, it

0:28:56.880 --> 0:29:00.520
<v Speaker 1>was like if you google dr malone, the usually like

0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 1>the sixth result, the first one is this YouTube video

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:04.520
<v Speaker 1>at de Bunky and like I did this, and like no,

0:29:04.840 --> 0:29:07.719
<v Speaker 1>the first result was the obviously viral video of him

0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 1>saying the thing, Like they just they can take one

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:14.000
<v Speaker 1>screenshot that maybe someone made or maybe because of one

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 1>person's computer algorithm that's what gave them and use this

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:19.640
<v Speaker 1>as like evidence that this is the entire system of

0:29:19.680 --> 0:29:22.000
<v Speaker 1>the Internet suppressing the thing, Like no, the Internet wants

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 1>things to go viral. Now, there's certain things where they

0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 1>like trying to shut down the spread of dangerous stuff,

0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:30.600
<v Speaker 1>but this got very viral. This was not contained in

0:29:30.600 --> 0:29:33.480
<v Speaker 1>any way. But because of this notion like they're trying

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:35.360
<v Speaker 1>to hide it, you know, it plays into their them

0:29:35.400 --> 0:29:38.000
<v Speaker 1>thinking they're like they're them thinking that they are the

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:41.480
<v Speaker 1>rebels or something. And there's also a very practical reason

0:29:41.640 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 1>why the people who particularly know that they're lying do this,

0:29:45.080 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 1>and it's because all of their success is based on

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 1>a foundation of the way in which YouTube and Facebook

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 1>and Twitter algorithmically amplified them and their predecessors. And they

0:29:56.920 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>know that creating controversy over the fact that are being suppressed,

0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:06.320
<v Speaker 1>um leads to more content that Jin's that basically algorithmically

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 1>spreads their stuff more because more people are talking about it,

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:12.000
<v Speaker 1>because other people's channels start debating it, because idiots on

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:13.720
<v Speaker 1>the left are like, well, we should at least have

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 1>them on platform them because we're anti censorship too, so

0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 1>let's debate them. And like all of this stupid ship

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 1>feeds into spreading their stuff. It's a very intelligent strategy. Um,

0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 1>I hate it, but just in just in terms of

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:28.120
<v Speaker 1>how ridiculous it is. I know. A few days ago,

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:34.040
<v Speaker 1>a Congressman Troy Nells said that I submitted the transcript

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<v Speaker 1>from the Joe Rogan Experience podcast episode with Dr Malone

0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:40.520
<v Speaker 1>to the Congressional Record. Big tech wants to restrict your access,

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:43.600
<v Speaker 1>your access to information, but they cannot censor. The Congressional

0:30:43.640 --> 0:30:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Record not big tech is the entire reason why you

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 1>know about these people. Yeah, entirely. So if it were

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 1>not for big tech, Joe Rogan would be narrating videos

0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:59.800
<v Speaker 1>of robots fighting. So Jack Sybiak got real into the

0:31:00.120 --> 0:31:03.160
<v Speaker 1>because he loves anything that goes viral. For big tech,

0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Jack Piso Bik would have died in a ditch of

0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:09.320
<v Speaker 1>an oxy content overdose, so he got real into it.

0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:11.840
<v Speaker 1>He changed his like he changed his Twitter name to

0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Jack mass Formation psychosis, psychosa Beck or some bullshit like that.

0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Stupid and it was. It was tweeting about a NonStop

0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:23.880
<v Speaker 1>for a week and like like a kid learning about

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 1>a new topic because of synchronicity' he's gonna like projected

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 1>onto everything he sees. Now he's like this this new

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 1>all encompassing topic that makes you avoid what fashions them

0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 1>actually is and then point out at the things you

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:38.080
<v Speaker 1>don't like. So of course he's gonna apply to everything

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 1>he He made a tweet right before January six, um

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:46.920
<v Speaker 1>as the anniversary of the Capitol intermpted ku thing. Regime

0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Media has launched a propaganda push against Ashley Babbitt today

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 1>to psychologically prep their flock for the upcoming mass formation

0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:58.440
<v Speaker 1>event planned for January six this week. This this is

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 1>called priming and it's a text book mass formation theory tactic.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait till you see what comes next, And it is

0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:11.440
<v Speaker 1>the sixth today has anything what happened? Not goddamn thing

0:32:11.600 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 1>they got fucking lin Manuel Morenda does sing song that's

0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:20.560
<v Speaker 1>gone from Miranda? Did you see that that wasn't He

0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:23.440
<v Speaker 1>might have said something in the beginning that was due,

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:27.000
<v Speaker 1>but the performance has been played before on other things. Well,

0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 1>and I am you know what, if we're taught trying

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 1>to reach across the aisle, I am willing to admit

0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 1>that the popularity of lin Manuel Miranda might be a

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:43.160
<v Speaker 1>mass formation psychosis. Absolutely, the popularity of Hamilton's is a

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 1>mast formation psychus. Absolutely, we're just being assholes. But like, like

0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:50.080
<v Speaker 1>like seriously like it again, but it doesn't it does.

0:32:50.200 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 1>The fuck is when it when it comes to again

0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 1>like the fact that he said there's gonna be this

0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 1>whatever psyche mass formation psychosis event on the anniversary of

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:05.000
<v Speaker 1>January six then it's going to be huge watch for it.

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<v Speaker 1>And nothing happens, doesn't matter, never matters, will never matter,

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:13.160
<v Speaker 1>um because again, like it's it's I think one of

0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 1>the issues that we have here is the degree to

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:19.240
<v Speaker 1>which brain brainwashing and hypnosis and stuff are talked about

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:21.760
<v Speaker 1>within kind of discussions of a cultic milieu when they're

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:24.000
<v Speaker 1>not really a factor not a factor in cults, not

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:26.920
<v Speaker 1>nearly as much as you think. Yeah, and not in

0:33:26.960 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 1>the way that you think. There's things that like you

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:31.760
<v Speaker 1>could call brainwashing, but the the and you could even

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:36.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe call hypnosis, although that's a lot murkier, is a

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 1>very technical thing. Yeah, But but the what actually like

0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:43.080
<v Speaker 1>the stuff that's actually happens. Again, it's always much more

0:33:43.160 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 1>logical and rational if you can just inhabit the mental

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 1>space of the people who are in those communities because

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 1>of what they're primed to believe first, and because of

0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:55.200
<v Speaker 1>what is happening socially, because of the degree to which

0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:58.800
<v Speaker 1>they isolate themselves from people who are outside of that bubble. Like,

0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 1>that's why you it's so hard to get them out.

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 1>It's not that like magically their brains have been taken over.

0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:07.720
<v Speaker 1>It's that they have pretty methodically been put into a

0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 1>position where rejecting what is being told to them within

0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:18.400
<v Speaker 1>this context is immensely more painful, um than just continuing

0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:21.040
<v Speaker 1>to believe things that are not true. Um. And there

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:24.280
<v Speaker 1>are more consequences for it, you know. Um, you lose

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 1>a support network, you lose a great deal of of

0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:30.640
<v Speaker 1>of your own opinion of yourself and your self worth

0:34:30.719 --> 0:34:33.799
<v Speaker 1>if you start to reject this stuff. Um. And once

0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:35.759
<v Speaker 1>you can trap people in that, it's the same way

0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:39.440
<v Speaker 1>that scientology works. Once you can trap people in that. Um,

0:34:39.680 --> 0:34:42.360
<v Speaker 1>it's the evidence of their eyes and the fact that

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:45.279
<v Speaker 1>like they're obviously being lied to and the things that

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:47.320
<v Speaker 1>they're being told about don't come to pass. It's this.

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 1>It's the reason why you have a bunch of apocalyptic

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 1>cults who say the days the world's going to end

0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:54.400
<v Speaker 1>on this day and time that day and time comes,

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:58.440
<v Speaker 1>the world doesn't end, and the cult goes on. You know, Yeah,

0:34:58.480 --> 0:35:01.399
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty it's pretty ridiculou us. This this whole thing

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:05.959
<v Speaker 1>was started by this professor of clinical psychology at at

0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:09.880
<v Speaker 1>a university in Belgium, Matthias Desmot. He seems to have

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 1>a pretty bad understanding of history and actual like power

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 1>structures and does not know the least bit about fascism. Um.

0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 1>And it's trying to craft this thing to fill in

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 1>the gaps in his own knowledge and applies it to everything.

0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:27.040
<v Speaker 1>And I've read some of his stuff. It's it's nonsense. Um.

0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Again that just like the doctors who talked about it,

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:32.279
<v Speaker 1>they're like, yeah, he's using this also is a way

0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 1>to explain how COVID is not real and how the

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:39.560
<v Speaker 1>vaccine is a is a ploy to do bad thing.

0:35:40.040 --> 0:35:46.000
<v Speaker 1>It's it's all ridiculous, it's irresponsible, um, and they're using

0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:48.560
<v Speaker 1>it as a tactic and hopefully it's just gonna blow over.

0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:50.960
<v Speaker 1>But I'm sure it'll pop up everyone every once in

0:35:51.000 --> 0:35:52.880
<v Speaker 1>a while again, just like it popped up, you know,

0:35:53.080 --> 0:35:56.880
<v Speaker 1>a few weeks ago. But that's that's really all. I all.

0:35:56.920 --> 0:35:59.200
<v Speaker 1>I want to get into it. I I could say more,

0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:01.640
<v Speaker 1>but I think we have said enough. I think that's

0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:11.040
<v Speaker 1>said enough. Um all right, well fuck itt, Yeah, that's it.

0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:15.840
<v Speaker 1>That's all I've got. UM Read This Way for the

0:36:15.880 --> 0:36:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Gas Ladies and Gentlemen by Thaddius Borowski. Um. It will.

0:36:21.600 --> 0:36:24.759
<v Speaker 1>It will have a major impact on the way you

0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:29.080
<v Speaker 1>see the entire world if you if you actually read it. Um,

0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 1>there's some incredible pieces in there. One of one of

0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 1>the things that the Taddius points out is that like

0:36:34.239 --> 0:36:38.000
<v Speaker 1>people only ever have like one kind of language for

0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:41.479
<v Speaker 1>for talking about like the things that they feel, where

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:45.480
<v Speaker 1>whether it's something they they kind of vaguely care about

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:48.239
<v Speaker 1>or something they care about enough to murder over. And

0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:51.600
<v Speaker 1>so when people engage in acts of like horrific violence

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:54.600
<v Speaker 1>on a mass scale. They often do it looking and

0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 1>acting like they would if they were irritated at somebody

0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:00.520
<v Speaker 1>in traffic. Um. And it's the most un rattling thing

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:02.879
<v Speaker 1>about being the victim of a genocide that you don't

0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:05.680
<v Speaker 1>see the kind of hate and the kind of rage

0:37:05.680 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 1>and the kind of like what you would expect someone

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 1>would need to be amped up to. It's more of

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:13.680
<v Speaker 1>like you see, more like kind of boredom and and

0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:17.360
<v Speaker 1>irritation and all that stuff. Like it's not anyway read

0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:23.799
<v Speaker 1>read read Daddy Sparowski. Um, he's I desperately wish Joe

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Rogan would just sit and narrate this book on his show,

0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:32.319
<v Speaker 1>because I do actually a service to the world. Anyway. Um,

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:38.800
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