WEBVTT - Assistive Technology

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<v Speaker 1>It's ready. Are you get in touch with technology? With

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<v Speaker 1>tech Stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hello, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to tech Stuff. My name is Chris Pollette, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an editor here at how stuff works dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>Sitting across the table from me as usual as senior

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<v Speaker 1>writer Jonathan Strickland. Hey there, Crispy. I don't know where

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<v Speaker 1>you've got that from, but you can put it right back.

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<v Speaker 1>Your first name is Chris, your last name begins with

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<v Speaker 1>a P. CHRISP Crispy, and you shall be known as

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<v Speaker 1>Crispy for evermore amongst all the tech stuff listeners show.

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<v Speaker 1>I degree great. Actually, we're actually going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more somber than usual, serious stuff to talk

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<v Speaker 1>talk about. Um and um yeah. I mean we've had

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of people right in and ask us about

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<v Speaker 1>technology for people who have you know, yeah, yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about a system of technology. Yes, and it's specifically

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<v Speaker 1>technology that assists people who otherwise would find it difficult

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<v Speaker 1>to lead. Uh. Well, I hesitate to say a normal life,

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<v Speaker 1>but what we would normally what we would consider a

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<v Speaker 1>normal life. I suppose basically helps them accomplished tasks that

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<v Speaker 1>they cannot do normally exactly right. So this has a

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<v Speaker 1>very wide range, um, because there are lots of different

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<v Speaker 1>things that you could need assistance with, and there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things that technology can do to help you.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, this is probably really just kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>general overview because there's no way we could cover everything

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<v Speaker 1>in a normal podcast. It would take hours and hours

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about some of the incredible innovations that are

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<v Speaker 1>out there that can help people. And some of them

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<v Speaker 1>are very basic. Some of them aren't necessarily the super

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<v Speaker 1>high tech solution, but they're very clever and they are effective,

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<v Speaker 1>so we should talk about them. Some of them actually

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<v Speaker 1>aren't even brand new. Um. One of the first ones

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<v Speaker 1>I thought of as I started writing down ideas is

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<v Speaker 1>the hearing aid. That's a good example because I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>of course they haven't always been like they are now,

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<v Speaker 1>but uh, you know, the pieces, the earpieces that people

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<v Speaker 1>wear now are almost indistinguishable. I mean, they're very very

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to tell that someone is even wearing a hearing aid,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're very very efficient. But inside that tiny little

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<v Speaker 1>package you've got, you've got to have a number of

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<v Speaker 1>things in there, including a microphone, a speaker, and an

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<v Speaker 1>amplifier and you know, the battery and it and it

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<v Speaker 1>has made people's lives very very easy people who have

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<v Speaker 1>difficulty hearing. Basically UM transferring those sounds to the the

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<v Speaker 1>little hairs in your ear and UM. Through that you

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<v Speaker 1>can you can hear, not completely normally, but that is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I wasn't even thinking of that as an

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<v Speaker 1>assistant technology, but that's been around for you know, for

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<v Speaker 1>decades now. A similar one that's been around for a

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<v Speaker 1>few decades is the teletypewriter. Oh yeah, So this is

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<v Speaker 1>something that people who have other people who might have,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a hearing impairment would use, uh in order

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<v Speaker 1>to communicate over phone lines. Now, before we had cell

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<v Speaker 1>phones where you could text like crazy and all that

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of mess if you wanted, if you were

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<v Speaker 1>if you were someone who had a really serious hearing impairment,

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<v Speaker 1>if you were deaf or just had a very poor hearing, um,

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<v Speaker 1>there weren't too many options that you had in order

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<v Speaker 1>to communicate over the phone. One of the few ones

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<v Speaker 1>was the teletypewriter. And the teletypewriter it looks like it

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<v Speaker 1>looks kind of like a typewriter and uh that connects

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<v Speaker 1>to a phone. It actually transmits information over phone lines. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And in order to really communicate with one, you essentially

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<v Speaker 1>needed to have one on both ends of the line,

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<v Speaker 1>or you needed to have an operator between uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>person who was calling normally and the person who was

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<v Speaker 1>on the teletypewriter, because you couldn't just you know, receive

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<v Speaker 1>voice over the phone line and have the teletypewriter transmit

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<v Speaker 1>that into into text. It didn't work that way right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And speaking from personal experience, UM, if you receive a

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<v Speaker 1>call from from an operator uh working with someone using

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<v Speaker 1>a teletypewriter, it's it's kind of nerve wracking because you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be respectful to the person on the other end,

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<v Speaker 1>but you may not necessarily necessarily know how that works.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's kind of difficult because they're transcribing everything you're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>and when you basically say, hey, well I have a question,

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<v Speaker 1>they're typing that like no, no, I'm asking you, the operator,

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<v Speaker 1>can you help me with this because I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what you know, right, And if you get a smart

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<v Speaker 1>test for an operator, they're saying things like they're totally

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<v Speaker 1>saying that you're ugly yeah, I haven't had that problem. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well we can talk about my previous job experience in

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<v Speaker 1>a different podcasts. So yeah, the teletypewriter, that was another

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<v Speaker 1>example of technology that's been around for a while where

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<v Speaker 1>was just a clever use of tech to allow people

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<v Speaker 1>to have more options when they're communicating. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a simple idea, but it was definitely a revolutionary

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<v Speaker 1>thing in the lives of many millions of people. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's just the tip of the iceberg. I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>site another every night every day when before we got

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<v Speaker 1>into the super duper high tech closed captioning good, which

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<v Speaker 1>actually is is very similar in some ways to the

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<v Speaker 1>teletypewriter in the operator because, um, when you have a

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<v Speaker 1>live show going on, um you have somebody listening to

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on during the show and you know, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to transcribe it as they are speaking, which can be

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine amazingly difficult, especially judging when you see the

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<v Speaker 1>typos that pop up on the screen, and I'm you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I I smirk it those, I admit, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have done any better. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I probably would have been far far worse. So I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate their you'll see some interesting homonyms throwing and there

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<v Speaker 1>are things like that. But yeah, you know, these these

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<v Speaker 1>are even when they're using special keyboards that have macros

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<v Speaker 1>or or certain common words already programmed into them, so

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<v Speaker 1>that way all you have to do is hit one

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<v Speaker 1>key stroke too to do an entire word. Even when

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing that, you're still talking about having to type

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<v Speaker 1>an incredible rate. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. But my favorite when

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<v Speaker 1>you have the clothes captioning turned on is when they

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<v Speaker 1>have the shows that have already been captioned, um, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's music and it says music and it has that

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<v Speaker 1>little note because I just thought it's kind of nice

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<v Speaker 1>they bother to include that. M yep, yeah, you get

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<v Speaker 1>the little anyway. Sorry, well, here here's some other we

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<v Speaker 1>can go some other basic technology things like they're very

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<v Speaker 1>various special keyboards that are out for people who have

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<v Speaker 1>other problems, Like there are keyboards that have oversized keys,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're they're maybe extra sensitive, so people who have trouble,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe someone who couldn't push down on an

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<v Speaker 1>normal key the way that that you and I could

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<v Speaker 1>could be able to type without any problem using one

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<v Speaker 1>of these. They're also key keyboards that are especially made

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<v Speaker 1>for people who have only the use of one hand. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So there are a lot of those on the market

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<v Speaker 1>as well, and I mean they all are designed for

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<v Speaker 1>very specific kinds of of of disabilities in mind. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's also a a pretty common thing that you can

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<v Speaker 1>find out in the world of tech. Yeah. UM. Text

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<v Speaker 1>to speech software also very important. Yeah, because people who

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't otherwise be able to type. Um. Would you know

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<v Speaker 1>that would be speech to text. Well, that's text to

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<v Speaker 1>speech would be the other way around, that's true, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>speech to text. Well, we'll go in both directions. Speech

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<v Speaker 1>to text, um would be very useful for someone who

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<v Speaker 1>you know, may not be able to type necessarily, but

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<v Speaker 1>they could speak into a microphone and have the computer

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<v Speaker 1>transcribe and email someone um or um. You know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>even print out a letter, you know, for someone else

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<v Speaker 1>to mail for them. Um. And then you have your

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<v Speaker 1>text to speech, which I mean, hey, the Amazon Kindle

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<v Speaker 1>has got it. Yeah, it's not necessarily enabled for every title, No,

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<v Speaker 1>that your Kindle could read to you if you were

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<v Speaker 1>not able to work the Kindle with your hands, right,

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<v Speaker 1>if if the publisher enables that particular UM function, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna take a moment here. Amazon. UM, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really blame you. It's not your fault. Amazon. You're working

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<v Speaker 1>with lots and lots of publishers, and these publishers are

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<v Speaker 1>afraid of technology because they're uh, their industry is based

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<v Speaker 1>off a very old, venerable business model that has served

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<v Speaker 1>them well for decades. So it's very scary to move

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<v Speaker 1>into a new format where uh you have this electronic

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<v Speaker 1>version of what you used to print out and hard copy.

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<v Speaker 1>That electronic version it so ephemeral, and it could be

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<v Speaker 1>spread around and there's you know, you think about how

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<v Speaker 1>much money you could lose if what if one person

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<v Speaker 1>gets hold of that book and then just spreads copies

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<v Speaker 1>around for free. However, I don't think you can really

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<v Speaker 1>uh it publishers. I don't think you would like to

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<v Speaker 1>stand on when you say that that the the text

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<v Speaker 1>to speech feature and endangers the sales of audio books,

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<v Speaker 1>because an audio book is a completely different animal from

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<v Speaker 1>a book read using text to speech. There's no real inflection,

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<v Speaker 1>and text to speech there's no characterization. Uh. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>a useful tool for people who have visual impairments. It

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<v Speaker 1>is not something that you would want to listen to

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<v Speaker 1>just for entertainment purposes. If you want that, you would

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<v Speaker 1>obviously go out and buy the audio book version. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think anyone would think, oh, well now I can,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just buy the text copy because that text of

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<v Speaker 1>speech voice. Let me tell you, that's so much better

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<v Speaker 1>than hearing the novelist read it in his own voice

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<v Speaker 1>or her own voice. So publishers, um, come on enable

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<v Speaker 1>that function on more titles. Seriously, I just I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's the right thing to do. That's Jonathan's opinion. Chris

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<v Speaker 1>is just gonna sit back and let me rant your editorialize.

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<v Speaker 1>I I feel very passionately about this. So but yes,

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<v Speaker 1>those are very important features. I was also going to mention, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you might you might say, well, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a technology assistant. Technology is a very important field. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you wonder why people, uh honestly, why some

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<v Speaker 1>companies spend so much time and effort in in researching

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff, because when you get down to it, like

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<v Speaker 1>if you're going to be cold blooded and talk about capitalism, um,

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<v Speaker 1>the market is, it's it's a niche market. But then

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<v Speaker 1>you think about what would we lose if we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>invest in assistive technology and the human element, like the

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<v Speaker 1>the contributions that that people can make when with this

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<v Speaker 1>assistant technology are amazing. And there's one example that just

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<v Speaker 1>is forefront of my mind. It's obviously Dr Stephen Hawking.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Doctor Hawking of course a brilliant mind, absolutely brilliant,

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<v Speaker 1>and back when he started to to require technology in

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<v Speaker 1>order to communicate after surgeries and disease um, originally he

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<v Speaker 1>had a device that all allowed him to do was

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<v Speaker 1>communicate one letter at a time. He had to build

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<v Speaker 1>sentences one letter at a time. It took forever. And

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<v Speaker 1>he points out now that with the technology has that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if if he had to rely on the

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<v Speaker 1>old technology, he probably wouldn't have written several of the

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<v Speaker 1>books that he's written, or been able to have the

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<v Speaker 1>lectures that he's given at various universities, and the world

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<v Speaker 1>would be a poorer place without those contributions. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just the way it boils down. So this technology

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<v Speaker 1>is very important because a lot of these people have attributions.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even begin to imagine sure, and without it

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<v Speaker 1>we would never see it. So that's my other editorial.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh boy, we should have let Jonathan get onto this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Should we all right, let's get back to some more technology. Okay, Okay, well, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and and that's the other thing too, is that, um,

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<v Speaker 1>some of this some of the research and development that

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<v Speaker 1>goes into creating assisted of technologies for differently able to people, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>sort of bleeds over into real life into other things

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<v Speaker 1>that um, you know, everyone else can use too. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking back to our our podcast that we did on

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<v Speaker 1>Ray Kurtzwile and the reader that he created, which has

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<v Speaker 1>basically made its way over into the music industry. Sure, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know Stevie Wonder being one of the very first

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<v Speaker 1>people even lay his hands on one, which is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>made them fast friends. I think that's pretty cool. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's other technology that has been used in vious

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<v Speaker 1>UM devices that have found its way into two completely

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<v Speaker 1>different inventions. For example, Dean came and we did a

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<v Speaker 1>whole podcast on Dean came, and we mentioned his I

0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:15.719
<v Speaker 1>bought the the very advanced electric wheelchair that he developed. Now,

0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:19.320
<v Speaker 1>this wheelchair has got some really cool features on it,

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<v Speaker 1>including the ability to climb stairs. It also has the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to raise up on two wheels, so it suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>allows the the person sitting in the chair to be

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<v Speaker 1>at about eye level instead of at waist level, which

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<v Speaker 1>for you know, someone who's standing up, which is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Was actually listening to a testimonial from someone using one

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<v Speaker 1>of these chairs, and she said, I went to a

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<v Speaker 1>hotel to make a reservation and I went up on

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<v Speaker 1>two wheels, and I can you know, no one has

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<v Speaker 1>to lean over the desk or come around the desk

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<v Speaker 1>in order to talk to me, because now I'm suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>standing I'm over the desk with this feature. Now that

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<v Speaker 1>technology has found its way into other devices like the segue,

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<v Speaker 1>the the the gyre of scopes that allow you to

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<v Speaker 1>move the segway by leaning forward or leaning backward. That's

0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:06.559
<v Speaker 1>also in this wheelchair, so people who are in the

0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:09.200
<v Speaker 1>wheelchair can when they're up on the two wheels, they

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<v Speaker 1>can manipulate the wheelchair by leaning forward and leaning backwards.

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<v Speaker 1>I would be willing to bet that some of that

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<v Speaker 1>technology is also in the center, which may never make

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<v Speaker 1>it to market, but it looks super cool. Hint. Yeah, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I mean. And while we're on the subject,

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<v Speaker 1>with Dean came in it, we have to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the Luke arm. Okay, because now This is named after

0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:34.720
<v Speaker 1>Luke Skywalker from a little movie. I didn't know that

0:14:34.840 --> 0:14:37.160
<v Speaker 1>it is. You didn't know that. Yeah, it's named after

0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:40.480
<v Speaker 1>Luke Skywalker. It's the Luke Arms, the robotic arm. And

0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:43.760
<v Speaker 1>of course Luke spoiler alert gets his hand cut off

0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.440
<v Speaker 1>an Empire, strikes back and then gets a an electronic

0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:50.240
<v Speaker 1>one attached at the very end. Um, so that's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot like his dear old dad, Darth Vader other spoiler alert,

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<v Speaker 1>And so the Luke Arm is. What happened was Dean

0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:58.440
<v Speaker 1>the way Dean came and talks about He says that

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<v Speaker 1>someone from the Department of Defensive, very high level man

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<v Speaker 1>came up to him and said, um, we have all

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<v Speaker 1>these these soldiers coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan, many

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<v Speaker 1>of whom have lost an arm. And the problem is

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<v Speaker 1>that the technology for replacing a lost arm hasn't really

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<v Speaker 1>advanced since the you know, the seventeen hundreds. So he says,

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<v Speaker 1>the way he describes it, says, it's essentially a stick

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<v Speaker 1>with a hook at the end, and they want something

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<v Speaker 1>more advanced. They wanted something that was so advanced that

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<v Speaker 1>you would be able to lift a grape or raisin

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<v Speaker 1>off a table, be able to tell the difference without

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<v Speaker 1>looking at it, and be able to lift it to

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<v Speaker 1>your mouth and eat it without crushing it. So there

0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:41.280
<v Speaker 1>were all these different UH parameters that came and had

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<v Speaker 1>to put in the mind. And he first said, you're crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no technology that exists that would allow us to

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<v Speaker 1>do this, especially on a level where the arm would

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<v Speaker 1>be light enough for a human being to comfortably be

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<v Speaker 1>able to use it. But came and went around, talked

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<v Speaker 1>to some neurologists, He talked to some of the soldiers

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<v Speaker 1>who came back. Was convinced that this was a worthy cause.

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<v Speaker 1>He formed formulated a team, and after about a year

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<v Speaker 1>of development, they had a nine pound arm that could

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<v Speaker 1>do many of the things that they had hoped it

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<v Speaker 1>could do. Now granted, right now, the arm is mainly

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<v Speaker 1>controlled through a series of sensors that you actually attached

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<v Speaker 1>to your shoes, so you use you you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>might lean forward to make the arm go up, and

0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:26.200
<v Speaker 1>you might lean to the right to make the wrist

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<v Speaker 1>rotate a certain way. It's got fourteen points of articulation.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some other sensors that attached to the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>any remnant of an arm that the person might have

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<v Speaker 1>or their shoulder that kind of thing, um, and they

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<v Speaker 1>hope eventually to get to a sort of a neural

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<v Speaker 1>muscular control system where you would actually have the controls

0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:47.280
<v Speaker 1>implanted into the person's body and they would be able

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<v Speaker 1>to control it with their mind and so you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to use any motor controls at all to to

0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:55.520
<v Speaker 1>adjust it. There's some amazing videos online. I highly recommend

0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:58.800
<v Speaker 1>you check them out because, um, this is the sort

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<v Speaker 1>of technology that I find really inspiring. Um. I mean,

0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:05.840
<v Speaker 1>these are very very smart people who see the need

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<v Speaker 1>to solve a specific problem and they put everything they've

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<v Speaker 1>got into it. So it's pretty it's pretty cool stuff. Yeah. Uh,

0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:18.480
<v Speaker 1>let's see, I've got a lot of other like like

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<v Speaker 1>not you know, important things, maybe not as impressive as

0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:26.239
<v Speaker 1>the Luke arm or the iBOT, but like screen readers. Now,

0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:29.280
<v Speaker 1>this is technology that's again for people who are visually impaired.

0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:33.520
<v Speaker 1>A screen reader is essentially an an application that will

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<v Speaker 1>uh analyze the contents on a screen and then translated

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<v Speaker 1>in some way to convey that to the person sitting

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<v Speaker 1>at the keyboard. Now that might be through a um,

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<v Speaker 1>a text to speech uh program. So it may be

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<v Speaker 1>that the computer talks to the person saying at the keyboard,

0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:56.960
<v Speaker 1>or they they may have a brail keyboard. Rail keyboards

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<v Speaker 1>are these these pads that have a section where little

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<v Speaker 1>pins can pop up and they essentially spell out words

0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:09.240
<v Speaker 1>and brail. So the visually impaired person would put his

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<v Speaker 1>or her fingers over the this section and feel the

0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:16.840
<v Speaker 1>pins as they come up, and they use piezo electric effects, so, um,

0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:19.240
<v Speaker 1>you put a little electricity through and it pops the

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<v Speaker 1>pin right up and they can read what's on the

0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:25.760
<v Speaker 1>screen because it's been translated from whatever the text is

0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:29.359
<v Speaker 1>into brail and then that is translated through the pins.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty cool stuff. Actually, it's really cool. I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>one working and it's I'm always astounded at how fast

0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:39.640
<v Speaker 1>they move and how fat quickly people can read because

0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:41.600
<v Speaker 1>it's just so foreign to me to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>read through your sense of touch, and I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's amazing to to to see. Yeah, um, you know,

0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:51.000
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of standards out there to The

0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:57.439
<v Speaker 1>Worldwide Web Consortium actually has standards for basically for screen

0:18:57.520 --> 0:19:01.520
<v Speaker 1>readers to be able to read web pages. Um, you know,

0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:04.760
<v Speaker 1>so it is possible that there, you know, that everyone

0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:07.280
<v Speaker 1>can create web pages that other people can read as

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<v Speaker 1>long as they conform to those standards, and the manufacturers

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<v Speaker 1>of operating systems to also have a lot of assistive

0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:17.720
<v Speaker 1>technology built right into the to the operating system. You

0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:21.479
<v Speaker 1>can turn on features such as high contrast and um,

0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:24.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, alter the the size of letters on the

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<v Speaker 1>screen to make them easier for people who are have

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<v Speaker 1>difficulty seeing to read the screen a little better. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's some that also will translate any audio cues into

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<v Speaker 1>visual cues, so it might make the screen flash to

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<v Speaker 1>let you know an alert has come through when normally,

0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:43.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, you might just hear a chime. Um. So

0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:47.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's it's little things like that that seem

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<v Speaker 1>very simple, but they do make a big difference. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, thinking on it, you're like, well, yeah, that

0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:55.359
<v Speaker 1>makes perfect sense, but someone had to come up with that.

0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:59.240
<v Speaker 1>It's it's when you're when you're designing something for a

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<v Speaker 1>wide audience, it's there are a lot of things that

0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:03.760
<v Speaker 1>you may not take into consideration. Um. It's the same

0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:06.080
<v Speaker 1>problem that people that I see with people who developed

0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:09.680
<v Speaker 1>really really cool websites. They're developing really cool websites for

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<v Speaker 1>the latest version of whatever browsers they want to support.

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<v Speaker 1>But as you and I know, not everyone's using the

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<v Speaker 1>latest browser. In fact, a relatively small number of people

0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:23.520
<v Speaker 1>are using the latest browser. Most people are are at

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<v Speaker 1>least a generation, if not two generations behind, and so

0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:29.840
<v Speaker 1>when they go to visit the super cool website, their

0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:33.360
<v Speaker 1>browser isn't able to display it the way it's meant

0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:35.600
<v Speaker 1>to be displayed, and so it becomes a jumbled mess.

0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:38.080
<v Speaker 1>So it's another one of those things where and when

0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:41.600
<v Speaker 1>you're designing something now it might pay off to really

0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:46.280
<v Speaker 1>take these sort of things into consideration. UM. I don't

0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:48.320
<v Speaker 1>know if you saw this. It was a pretty recent

0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:52.040
<v Speaker 1>news story. Did you hear about the the car developed

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<v Speaker 1>by the Virginia Tech College of Engineering that allowed a

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<v Speaker 1>blind man to drive? No? I didn't. Yeah, Yeah, it

0:20:58.800 --> 0:21:02.080
<v Speaker 1>was interesting. It's a little doomed uggy style vehicle and

0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:04.840
<v Speaker 1>I watched a video on it and they allowed this. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the members of the teams a blind man

0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:11.880
<v Speaker 1>who was behind the wheel of the car. Another student

0:21:11.960 --> 0:21:15.600
<v Speaker 1>set next to him, and UM, it uses a whole

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of different technologies to allow the blind person to drive.

0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:24.920
<v Speaker 1>UM has laser range finders, it's got voice command software, um.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's got a feedback system. It tells the driver

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<v Speaker 1>which way to turn, so it starts to detect something

0:21:30.960 --> 0:21:33.080
<v Speaker 1>that you might collide with us. You might want to

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<v Speaker 1>turn left now so that the the driver doesn't collide

0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:38.359
<v Speaker 1>with anything on the road. Now, granted, this is not

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<v Speaker 1>something necessarily that we're going to see implemented on the

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<v Speaker 1>streets any time in the foreseeable future. Not to use

0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:51.960
<v Speaker 1>a horrible pun, but the you know, it's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting use of technology. And now if you could

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<v Speaker 1>fine tune it to a point where the car could

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<v Speaker 1>definitely detect everything, then maybe, But I just don't I

0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:06.080
<v Speaker 1>don't think that's possible really, although it could be a

0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:09.160
<v Speaker 1>very good step in the direction of full full automation.

0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:12.760
<v Speaker 1>That's true, However, um, I think the biggest problem in

0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:15.040
<v Speaker 1>this case would be you need everybody to adopt that

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<v Speaker 1>technology at the same time to prevent because I think

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest hazard in that case would be other drivers

0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:23.680
<v Speaker 1>because it's impossible to predict what they're doing right well.

0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:25.680
<v Speaker 1>And and when you think about your car would become

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<v Speaker 1>the ultimate backseat driver, yeah, because it would say things

0:22:28.440 --> 0:22:30.800
<v Speaker 1>like this jerk is cutting you off. Flip them off.

0:22:30.880 --> 0:22:33.960
<v Speaker 1>And cut to the left. I mean that's just you know,

0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:36.320
<v Speaker 1>that's all right. I mean that's the way I would

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<v Speaker 1>do it. But okay, so do you have any other

0:22:40.160 --> 0:22:42.920
<v Speaker 1>technologies you wanted to talk about? UM? Yes, UM, sure,

0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I do. Think one of the coolest things that I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen is, uh, you know, they're there's it's sort of

0:22:48.600 --> 0:22:52.920
<v Speaker 1>um still in the earlier implementation stages, but for people

0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:56.040
<v Speaker 1>who can't use um, their hands to operate a computer

0:22:56.200 --> 0:23:00.760
<v Speaker 1>and really may be unable to use their voices as well. UM.

0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:04.920
<v Speaker 1>I've seen some uh, some scientists working on systems that

0:23:05.080 --> 0:23:07.920
<v Speaker 1>sort of it sort of involves a combination of different

0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:12.960
<v Speaker 1>technologies cameras and uh measurements of electrical impulses, but basically

0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:17.880
<v Speaker 1>they follow um the user's eyes track eye movements. Yeah,

0:23:17.920 --> 0:23:20.399
<v Speaker 1>they track eye movements, and basically they can operate the

0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:24.440
<v Speaker 1>computer with you know, their eyes rather than you know,

0:23:24.520 --> 0:23:28.080
<v Speaker 1>with their hands or with their voices. Which it is

0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:30.080
<v Speaker 1>very cool technology. And I and I you know, have

0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:32.359
<v Speaker 1>seen a little bit on it, and I know that

0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:35.000
<v Speaker 1>it's not extremely far ahead, but just the idea that

0:23:35.080 --> 0:23:37.840
<v Speaker 1>we would be able to do that, um and have

0:23:38.000 --> 0:23:40.920
<v Speaker 1>it you know work, it's it's you know, fairly effective

0:23:41.040 --> 0:23:44.560
<v Speaker 1>to UM. And you know, I have the feeling, based

0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:46.640
<v Speaker 1>on what little I've read about it, that it will

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<v Speaker 1>be a little while before it's commonplace and affordable enough

0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:52.800
<v Speaker 1>for people who, um, who really need the technology to

0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:55.800
<v Speaker 1>be able to use it. But um, this is another

0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:58.840
<v Speaker 1>thing that could be very useful uh for all kinds

0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:01.560
<v Speaker 1>of people once more search is done on it and

0:24:02.640 --> 0:24:07.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, it becomes more commonplace. That's cool stuff. Yeah.

0:24:07.720 --> 0:24:09.520
<v Speaker 1>And I mean I've had a chance to see some

0:24:09.680 --> 0:24:12.600
<v Speaker 1>of this technology at places like ce S and it's

0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:16.520
<v Speaker 1>always really uh, one of my favorite spots to to

0:24:16.640 --> 0:24:19.119
<v Speaker 1>stop on the show floor, just because, I mean you

0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:21.440
<v Speaker 1>really see what how creative people can be with the

0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:24.800
<v Speaker 1>technology too, to make it do things that you you

0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:27.360
<v Speaker 1>just take for granted, you know, every day. So that's

0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:31.080
<v Speaker 1>really cool. Um. Well, I don't have any other technology,

0:24:31.119 --> 0:24:34.080
<v Speaker 1>but I do have a list of organizations and uh

0:24:34.240 --> 0:24:37.840
<v Speaker 1>and government groups that um that are all about assistant technology.

0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Did you have any others who wanted to talk about

0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:40.800
<v Speaker 1>before I go into that. No, no, no, I do

0:24:40.920 --> 0:24:43.119
<v Speaker 1>have a couple of organizations. I bet you have them too,

0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:44.800
<v Speaker 1>So let's hear your list, all right, These are all

0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:47.560
<v Speaker 1>the ones I have are all North American organizations. Now

0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I should go ahead and point out there are organizations

0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:53.040
<v Speaker 1>all around the world for assisted of technology. The only

0:24:53.040 --> 0:24:54.960
<v Speaker 1>reason I stuck with North Americas because that's where it

0:24:54.960 --> 0:24:57.600
<v Speaker 1>happened to be and they're, like I said, lots of them.

0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:01.080
<v Speaker 1>So this is just a small sample. But there's the

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Adaptive Technology Resource Center at the University of Toronto. There's

0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:08.399
<v Speaker 1>the Center for Applied Special Technology, also known as CASTE.

0:25:09.160 --> 0:25:15.480
<v Speaker 1>There's Assistive Technology Industry Association, which is actually a commercial group.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's a group of different companies within the industry. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>There's the Rehabilitation, Engineering and Assistive Technology Society of North America,

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<v Speaker 1>which just a mouthful. And there's the Alliance for Technology Access.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are the ones that I listed that I had.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what happens when we try to be creative and

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<v Speaker 1>and uh sort of do independent research. Yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a here's a secret for you guys. When we research,

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<v Speaker 1>we do research independently, so there's no telling. One of

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<v Speaker 1>us may come up with something the other one has

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<v Speaker 1>no idea about, or we may find the exact same

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<v Speaker 1>information as is the case today. But yeah, there there

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<v Speaker 1>are lots of these groups. And again I find their

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<v Speaker 1>work very interesting and and I'm very thankful for it.

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<v Speaker 1>So good job, guys, keep up the good work. And

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<v Speaker 1>I do think that getting these companies to cooperate with

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<v Speaker 1>one another is great news for people who need assistive technology,

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<v Speaker 1>because they're going to come up with standards, right that

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<v Speaker 1>are you know, that work with different machines, that work

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<v Speaker 1>with different software, um, and will allow them to work

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<v Speaker 1>with one another, which is incredibly important. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that's important for any technology. We see that all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Where the one of the big problems with any new

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<v Speaker 1>technology is that there are no standards in place. When

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<v Speaker 1>a new technology really first emerges and then everybody gets involved,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a big mess. You don't know which way to go,

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<v Speaker 1>and then eventually a sort of standards emerges and then

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<v Speaker 1>it really becomes useful. Yeah. I mean, this stuff is expensive,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when it's when it's new, and um, the eye

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<v Speaker 1>bought wheelchair, as I recalls, twenty six thousand dollars and

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<v Speaker 1>most insurance companies will not cover it, I'm sure. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking pretty expensive stuff but very worthwhile. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that just leads us right over to a listener

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<v Speaker 1>mail all right, then today's a listener mail classroom Gregorio.

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<v Speaker 1>And Gregorio says, hey, guys, I just listened to the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast on Google street View and I wanted to give

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<v Speaker 1>you my take on it. I am studying to be

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<v Speaker 1>a traffic engineer and we use Google street View and

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<v Speaker 1>Google Earth daily when designing streets. We tried to get

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<v Speaker 1>surveys of the area which would show all existing features

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<v Speaker 1>like dimensions, street signs, and striping, but when budget is limited,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to go out and measure and photograph intersections ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>We overlay Google map Maps images into our CAD designs

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<v Speaker 1>to help draw the streets, and we use Google street

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<v Speaker 1>View to verify signs and striping layouts. It is very

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<v Speaker 1>it is a very important tool that we use to

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<v Speaker 1>supplement our design data. That's pretty done. Cool. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know that. Wow, So going out and you know, taking

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<v Speaker 1>the tape measuring, Yeah, no, I mean, don't remind me

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