WEBVTT - Humble Beginnings? I'm In the Humble Now (Ep 379) 0:00:04.880 --> 0:00:09.480 Hey, hey, hey, we're back. 0:00:09.880 --> 0:00:11.760 We're black, We're brown. 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:19.760 Ambition ambition, ambition, ambition, ambition. Hey mandra, Hi, gorgeous. 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:21.960 How are you with your beautiful here today? 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:26.079 Well I'm hanging in there, you know, I am. But 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:29.920 the sun is shining. And we survived the biblical floods 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:33.800 in the on the on the East Coast on Friday. 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:35.240 That was fun. 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:39.440 It was It was biblical and I mean it, yeah, 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:42.280 it was nuts. But shout out to my community, my neighbors. 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:45.960 We all rallied together and one mom stayed at the 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:48.760 bus stop because so the other moms who were stuck 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:50.800 in traffic and couldn't get home for their kids pick 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:54.920 up early pickup dismissal and you know, and one of 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:57.640 my friends, one of my neighbors, Lynn, came and watched 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:01.400 my baby while I got early from school. 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:02.640 Walk You couldn't even drive. 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:04.880 Yeah, well I could have, but I didn't want to 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:06.600 get It would have been fine going there, but I 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:09.200 would have been stuck in so much traffic getting back 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:11.720 that I figured, let me just park the car. And 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:13.680 I just told myself, it's like ten city blocks, you 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:15.440 know what I mean. Like a New Yorker, you just 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:19.520 like whatever, and Rio had he had a ball. He 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:23.679 was like, this is fine. There's water features. Now there's police. Hell, 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:28.440 there's like police fireboats and fire trucks and fire people 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:31.560 and all this like commotion. And he was just he 0:01:31.600 --> 0:01:33.760 told everyone he wanted to hear that. We saw lots 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:37.959 of flooding and the train station flooded. And but it 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:42.440 was I mean, neighbors, basements flooded, and we're we're lucky 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:44.200 we're on like a bit of a hill. But our 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:47.240 neighbors at the base of the hill, yeah, got flooded. 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:49.640 And my friend's car got flooded at the train station. 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:54.040 It's going to be totaled. So you know, I mean luckily, 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:56.720 no that I know of, no loss of life or 0:01:56.720 --> 0:02:00.520 injuries near here. But it was bad. And in my 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:03.320 infinite wisdom, I was like, told the babysitter, you need 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:05.680 a home. It looks pretty bad out there. And then 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:07.480 well in school was like come get your kid. I 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:12.760 was like, oops, just shot myself and that's food. So 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:16.000 that's where my neighbor land came in. So okay, how 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:16.960 was it a new work? 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:17.560 It wasn't. 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:19.880 I mean, so I flew out' actually in Atlanta right now, 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:23.079 So when the rain started, I was flying out, thank god. 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:24.720 I mean, I don't know if they delayed any flights, 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:26.880 but I had a really early flight at seven am. 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:30.000 So I remember like like being like, what the hell 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:33.239 because it started raining the night before and in the morning, 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:36.280 I'm like, it's raining kind of hard, so much so 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:38.280 that like our uber, this never happened to me before. 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:40.040 We heard a big boom, like he drove to a 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:43.120 puddle and we heard this like big boom and the 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:46.480 tire blew out completely thankfully. I mean he had great 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:48.520 control in Atlanta. No, no, this is in Jersey. On 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:49.280 the way to the airport. 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:50.919 Oh, I was gonna say, in Atlanta, who got the 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:52.960 pothole posse? That was like a big thing back in 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:53.639 the nineties. 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:57.560 And I was like, what that never happened to before. Thankfully, 0:02:57.560 --> 0:02:59.760 We're all okay. The uber driver was so nice. I 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:02.800 felt so bad because this tie was finitail. And so 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:05.560 another uber picked us up and took us to the airport. 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:09.840 And yeah, I got to Atlanta and the weather here 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:13.200 is like eighty degrees and I'm like, wait, I'm so confused. 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:15.000 Eighty and Sunday. I feel like I'm in the Caribbean. 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:18.040 Ah. Yeah, but this time of year it is not 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:21.600 incredibly humid. No, you can enjoy that little dry eighty 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:22.400 It is that. 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:25.280 Yes, I have to say, it's really I mean, I 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:28.800 like brought geens and I'm like why literally it's shortened 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:29.440 tank top weather. 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:31.520 I'm so confused. My body is like I'm confused. 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:34.000 You're probably gonna get sick now. 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:38.680 Because it's just really really so I'm out here because 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:41.120 I did this conference called a three C. 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.280 I said a three c AC three A three C, 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:44.840 which is like this. 0:03:44.840 --> 0:03:49.560 Conference focused on finance, tech and entertainment, and so it 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:52.720 was great, Like the networking has been amazing. I forget 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:56.600 how people down south are so nice. Everyone is like, 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:58.360 you know, like sometimes you go to like a conference 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:00.440 and you speak or whatever, and you just feel like 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.360 the other speakers are not quite as welcoming. 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:04.400 But that is not the case here. 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:08.800 I've heard that, in particular that Atlanta, the black professionals 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:11.000 are really just open to being like I'm doing this, 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:12.440 how can I help you? 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:13.800 And you know, let's collaborate. 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:16.719 That there's this a collaborative kind of like energy here 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:18.640 and I mean I could see it full time, like 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:23.840 I'll give you an example, the master investor Ian his 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:27.360 he had a bodyguard. So Ian's like on that market 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:30.240 Mondays with Erner Leisure, you know, yeah yeah, and. 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:32.360 So we had him on the podcast with them mm hm. 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:35.840 Mm hmm yeah, and so like he had the bodyguard, bodyguard, 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:38.640 big guy, muscular, all this, and so I ended up 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:39.920 just talking to him and I was just like, you 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:42.120 know how you know, like, are your body gud for 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:44.240 other people? He named some other rappers. He's like, I'll 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:46.320 never want to do that work, he said, because rappers 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:48.839 are the biggest punks. He was like, you know, I've 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:50.480 had rappers punch people in the face and look at 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:51.320 me like you got them right. 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:54.719 It's like wait, Like he. 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:58.760 Was like, I would love to be like do more 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:00.280 like of the finance guys, which I I think it's 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:02.920 hilarious that finance guys now have like bodyguards, but whatever, 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:05.760 he said, because you know they're super chill. You're just 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:07.479 more so that no one's going to steal from you 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.760 or or whatever. And so but he was telling me, 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:13.560 he was like, actually, you know, like I'm an accountant 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:13.960 by trade. 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:14.760 I mean this guy is. 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:17.560 Massive, like six two sixty four, I mean muscles, on 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:20.960 muscles and I was like really. He was like, yeah, 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:22.720 you know, I started doing accounting and I really want 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.000 to get into finance. And he was like, so one 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:26.960 of the reasons I made the switch into doing body 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:30.760 bodyguard work for this industry is because proximity I. 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:31.400 Want to learn. 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:33.880 I just thought that was so awesome, you know, and 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:35.960 he was like he is away cover. Yeah, and I 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:38.599 just love that for him. I was like, okay, so yeah, 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:39.320 So it was just. 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:43.560 You've mentioned before that financial like pros influencers now have bodyguards, 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:45.799 and I was like, wow, we reached that stage. 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:48.320 Yeah, I don't know, not me, because he asked me, 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:51.279 did I have one? And I was like, no, No, 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:52.000 one's run. 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:52.679 Up on only. 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:56.040 Yeah, I would be shit, but your vibe is different 0:05:56.080 --> 0:06:00.720 than some Yeah, I have a master investor with his marketing. Yeah, 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:01.799 it could be a target. 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:05.479 You know me, I'm gonna target Marshall's girls. So you 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:06.720 go see me there and be like, hey, girl, we're 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:07.320 gonna run. 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:07.880 On say that a lot. 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:08.400 I see why. 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:14.960 Now, don't take me for ransom. No, my family can 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:17.800 afford me. I'm the money. Ooh, maybe they'll take someone. 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:20.760 Oh no, not baby, Lisa. This is where my head 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:22.440 is going, they're gonna kidnap you, so they're gonna hold 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:24.280 you for ransoms, gonna be all this crypto. 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:27.560 Okay, but but I do that. I just so, yeah, 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:29.119 it's just been like that was really cool. 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:33.240 But I wanted to talk about like so it was 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:36.240 so crazy because you know, the phones be listening. So 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:38.400 when I was I landed in Atlanta and I'd opened 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:41.520 up my Instagram and there was this post saying that 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.840 the Atlanta that nobody wants you to see. And I 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:47.200 was like, huh, And it was like this post of 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:50.680 this woman who was showing parts of downtown Atlanta where 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:53.279 like just a lot of unhoused people, just like areas 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:55.720 that were little CD looking and I was like, this 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:55.960 is like. 0:06:56.000 --> 0:06:56.640 When I first. 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:59.200 Landed, I didn't think anything of it until I got 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:02.240 to to my hotel where I'm staying. It's in midtown, 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:07.800 like literally well directly downtown downtown, and the day I landed, 0:07:07.800 --> 0:07:09.680 it was still we landed pretty early, and I said, oh, well, 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:11.640 you know me, I love my walks. I said, let 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:14.120 me go for a walk. I can say I have 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:18.800 traveled to many different places. I mean just this year alone, Egypt, Kenya, 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:23.040 you know London, Paris, off Ey Coast, and I live 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:26.200 in Newark. I have not felt unsafe like this in 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:31.160 a long time. Downtown there were so many unhoused people. 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:33.880 And it wasn't the unhoused park, but it was the 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:38.280 unhoused that were unwell. It was there were so many 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:42.520 aggressive like either whereabouts. 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:44.720 Which is that just downtown? Like where are we talking? Yeah? 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:45.640 A landmark? 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:50.960 So okay, so I'm not really good at like. 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:52.720 Like Centennial Park at Mercedes Stadium. 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:55.880 Yeah, so by Mercedes Stadium, but also too by like 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:58.720 Peach peaked Peach was it Peach Street? 0:07:58.800 --> 0:07:59.960 Okay, well there's seventy five. 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:03.840 I know, I'm just like I mean, but like like 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:05.960 I'm saying, I think, like the chance is that the 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:08.080 Candler Hotel, which is like right downtown. 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:12.280 Okay, I can't even I'm just like, you know. 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:15.760 I don't have my my my my barrier. But I mean, 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:18.800 but even I walked about three miles one way and back, 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:21.160 you know, so I got to see, like I mean, 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:23.080 certainly there are parts I'm like, oh, okay, this is 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:25.320 clearly a part like you know them. 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:31.760 Gets a little nicer, yes, But I was really shocked. 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:33.800 Like like I said, unhouse people you know, I see 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:36.880 all the time, but the amount that were I don't 0:08:36.920 --> 0:08:40.760 know whether it was you know, under the influence or 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:44.920 there's just mental health, but the the sheer amount. Maybe 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:48.320 there was literally street where the whole street was just 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:52.120 people laying and not just laying like you know, like 0:08:52.520 --> 0:08:54.800 off to the side, but in the middle of the sidewalk. 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:57.959 I just was like, wait, what it seemed like a movie, 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:01.280 like it seemed you could film of zombie Apocalypse and 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:02.720 be like you don't have to twitch anything. 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:04.520 And I just I've. 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:06.440 Never seen there was so so you know, the Martyr, 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:08.840 so you know, the big five points Marta. 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:11.760 That was when it was like the word I was. 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:15.760 There was one side of downtown Atlanta on that that 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:20.559 train station, and the other side I never it looked 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:21.559 like and abandoned. 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:23.319 Like I can't even describe it. 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:25.800 There must have been like fifty or sixty men standing 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:30.000 outside of this Walgreens just kind of like standing waiting, 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:32.400 I don't know for you know, like and it just 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:37.360 was heartbreaking to see. And I just I didn't I 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:40.040 guess I'm like, I honestly was at a loss for words. 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:42.120 You know. There were parts where I'm like this is 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:43.680 the this is where it's. 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:46.760 The smell of urine made me gag, Like right outside 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:49.120 the Martar station where I'm just like, people are just 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:52.400 like literally police tapping people to see are they still 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:54.719 here with us? Because of the way they were just 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:58.120 laid out. I've never seen anything like it, and so 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:02.240 I I went. They had this African Caribbean festival. I 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:04.280 went there yesterday, which was great fun, It was great. 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:07.000 And on the way back, I ordered an uber and 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:09.480 it was this young woman who I went to high 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:10.240 school with, Keana. 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:12.800 I was, Oh, my god, Keana, what are you doing here? 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:14.400 You know she lives she grew up in Jersey and 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:16.200 we just got to talking and I asked her about it. 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:19.000 She said, yeah, it's been getting worse and worse and worse. 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:23.719 And then she informed me that in August alone, I think, 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:25.720 I want to say, she said August or maybe the July, 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:30.600 there were eighty thousand evictions, not in the state of Georgia, 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:35.360 in Atlanta alone, and I was just like, what's really 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:41.119 happening that it is becoming it gets becoming too expensive 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:45.760 for basic needs. Everything is going up but income, and 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:48.720 so I'm just wondering, like city to city to city 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:52.000 is this kind of like what's happening, you know what 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:55.320 I mean, Like where people just don't even like you 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:58.040 can't we talk about like, oh I can't afford a house, 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:01.800 That's one thing, but literally I can't afford to have 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:03.880 a safe place to lay my head. It seems like 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:04.840 that's what's happening. 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:05.080 Now. 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:08.640 I've read someplace too that the current president has this 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:12.560 like affordability housing crisis, like kind of my task force 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:17.200 or something that like, because yeah, I just well. 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:18.880 The thing is, and you know, I knew you were 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:22.160 going to talk about this, and I was coming today 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:26.360 to talk about the childcare cliff because my store, my 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:30.200 head heads at is like, you know, the incredible cost 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:32.400 of childcare and how little we give a fuck about 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:36.440 children in this country. And it's so sad. I'm like 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:38.480 shaking my grippy socks that I got so I will 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:42.920 slip in my heartwood floors and in my research over that, 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:45.560 I'm like, and you talking about this. These are I 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:49.280 feel like two issues that have been well, they were 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:53.960 already in existence right pre pandemic. The unhoused you know 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:56.600 in Atlanta. I mean, go back to the Olympics, if 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:58.400 you recall like in the nineties when we had the 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:01.400 Olympics in Atlanta, it was a city too busy to hate, 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:03.760 you know, and they all have the sparkling marketing campaign, 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:06.640 and yet they were like shoveling the homeless off the 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:09.520 steps of downtown Atlanta, like get out of here. We 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:11.560 don't want this on the brochure, you know, we don't 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:14.160 want people like you Tiffany visiting Atlanta for the Olympics 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:16.240 and being distracted by this riff rap, you know, this 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:19.200 the mess under the bed, the mess that we shove 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:23.080 in the closet, and I you know, and yeah, and 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:27.280 Atlanta is victim to the same forces that have pushed out, 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:32.880 you know, low to middle income people. Even in New York, 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:38.360 where I moved to thirteen yeah, thirteen years ago, you 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:40.800 get pushed further and further and further away. You're not 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:44.319 erasing the problem, but because of rising prices and gentrification 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:49.320 and no social safety nets, you just you know, shove 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:52.880 the problem out. And I think in Atlanta, what's interesting 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:58.360 and not interesting? But in New York there's Heidi holes, 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:01.200 there's everything is so big and so massive, and there's 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:05.000 so many distractions, and you have the subway system where 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:08.000 a lot of the unhoused will seek refuge and you 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:11.319 have you do have shelters, but they're tucked away and 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:14.720 you know there's I think they they sort of and 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:17.680 with the yeah, they're spread. You know, it's so much 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:22.000 area in Atlanta, I think because the relationship most people 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:24.439 have with the city is through driving. Like you don't 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:27.880 walk Atlanta. Like you were walking Atlanta, you don't typically 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:30.000 do that. The city is moving toward more of a 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:34.440 walking culture. They finally have the the what do you 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:38.160 call that that pathway everyone walks on in Atlanta. I can't. 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:42.560 I can't think of it anyway. But so all that 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:45.320 to say is it was already a problem. But that 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:49.040 and also the lack of childcare, they were both issues before. 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:53.080 But during the pandemic what happened. We finally got our 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:56.199 shit together and had some social safety nets put in place. 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:58.720 So you had the eviction moratorium, which is one thing 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:04.000 that was put in place that until this past summer. 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:06.200 A lot of the in Atlanta is one of those states, 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:09.520 or sorry, one of those cities where the eviction moratorium 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.199 expired and they chose not to continue it. And that's 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.880 where you got that eighty thousand, you know number, and 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:16.880 then I looked in September it was twelve thousand, So 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.320 it's come down from that peak. But you see how 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.880 many people were on the cusp, you know. And at 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:24.960 the same time, we also right now are just fell 0:14:24.960 --> 0:14:28.440 off of a childcare cliff, Like all this extra funding 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:31.880 that the government provided childcare centers during the pandemic so 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:34.040 they could stay open, so they could pay their staff 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:38.480 has also expired. And I'm having a I know that 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:42.000 we averted the government shut down, and I don't know 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:44.400 if it's because it's just not a headline issue, but 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:47.040 I can't figure out did we go over the cliff? 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:49.240 I don't I think we did. I don't think it 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:51.280 was saved in this forty five day extension of the 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:57.320 federal budget. So I without these and I'm not saying 0:14:57.320 --> 0:15:02.359 that the eviction moratorium that was never going to solve homelessness. 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:05.240 It was it was bad for landowners land you know, 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:09.880 landlords and you know homeowners and home and all that 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:13.840 it was. It wasn't a perfect solution. Neither would injecting 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:17.120 an infusion of cash into childcare because the reality is 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:20.440 that it's just so expensive and families can't afford it, 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:23.360 so they needed those subsidies or else they would have 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.200 to start as they have been passing on the cost 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:31.640 to families and losing customers that way, or losing their 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:36.560 staff to like my son's daycare that he used to 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:39.960 go to before I finally got access to you universal 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:43.040 pre K, they had several of his teachers that quit 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:46.080 in the last few months. And this daycare was known 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:47.920 for not having a lot of turnover, which is quite 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:51.680 you know, hard to do, and it was like they 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:54.400 were getting higher wages somewhere else. You know, these were 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:57.920 great people that they lost, and it's just it just 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:00.920 makes me think of the lack of so safety nets. 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:03.240 And call me a bleeding heart liberal all you want, 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:07.560 but not we have. We can't not care about the 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:15.800 most vulnerable children, the chronically mentally ill, of course, the elderly. 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:17.760 I don't know if you can feel it, but I 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:19.000 can feel it just. 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:21.200 From just talking casually to friends that we're doing fine, 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:24.360 who are not doing fine. I'm talking about people who 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:29.040 have you know, college education and degrees and experience and 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:31.640 haven't at work for months and months and months. I mean, 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:34.600 you see it with your many money makers, you know, 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:37.800 I feel like we're in this like dangerous tipping point 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:42.480 where you know, the economy is you know, I mean 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:44.720 one of the things I heard on the panel over 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:46.920 and over. I was on the financial panel with ian 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:52.040 master investor, a really big real estate investor. His name 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:55.320 is Cedric Nash Melinda high Tower. I think she is 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:59.560 the oh I forget, she is the managing director. I 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:03.200 think of like USB UBS that's a big a of 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:04.440 their multicultural it's a. 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:06.520 Big BBS the bank, the investment bank. 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:10.320 Yeah yeah, and then MAC and so. One of the 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:12.440 things that came up is that like, you know, whether 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:15.679 they call it or not, you know that we are 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:18.719 headed towards some rush rough financial times. 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:19.760 But I mean you can see it. 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:24.600 I saw someone posts they they use an app to 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:27.400 order groceries, and they said, let me show you how 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:30.120 much my groceries cost in twenty twenty versus twenty twenty three, 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:32.919 And it was like this water I normally get, you know, 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:36.440 the same quantity was, you know, four dollars now it's 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:37.480 six seventy five. 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:42.520 Things were some things you know up one hundred. And 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:43.960 it's like, how. 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:49.199 Like I don't I think people don't I've you know, 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:51.879 my parents are from a country when where there is 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:55.800 no middle class and it's just uber wealthy and the 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:58.560 vast majority of people don't have and it makes for 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:01.960 very dangerous living. Because I did not feel safe walking 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:05.119 down downtown two o'clock in the afternoon Atlanta. 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:07.919 I mean, the like. 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:10.280 People were just approaching me in ways that were really 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:13.600 aggressive and scary, and I, like, I said, I live 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:15.560 in Newark, where I'm just like, okay, you know, I've 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:17.040 never felt unsafe walking downtown Newark. 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:18.480 I'm just like, you know, you keep your eyes about you, 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:19.120 You're like okay. 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:22.760 But no, it was a different level of aggression that 0:18:22.920 --> 0:18:28.560 I had not experienced. So I just am there is 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.159 something happening, and there's a shift coming that's not a 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:31.680 good one. 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:33.560 And I can feel like I can feel in. 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:35.479 The people that I serve because the advice I used 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:37.840 to give before was like management, It's like, okay, and 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:41.120 make a little more here, budget tighter here. And now 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:44.560 it's like that doesn't work unless I don't eat, don't this, 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:45.200 don't like it. 0:18:46.280 --> 0:18:48.480 Yeah, it's just really worrying, and I'm not really sure 0:18:48.480 --> 0:18:49.159 what to do about it. 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:53.240 I just yeah, you say you mentioned a tipping point 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:56.560 and I also makes me think of what's happening in 0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:58.879 New York very much on our doorstep is the migrant 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:03.719 crisis and the fact that the governor of Texas and 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:08.360 legislators there bust migrants from the border to you know, 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:14.159 these coastal cities like New York, DC, and New York has, 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:16.600 like you the picture you were painting of Atlanta is 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:20.040 what downtown you know, Manhattan has been looking like because 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:22.880 all these migrants are here and they don't have anywhere 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:25.639 to go. They're overrun with housing. And New York actually 0:19:25.640 --> 0:19:28.600 has this law that a lot of people didn't realize 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:30.720 or didn't know about so much until now that if 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:32.760 you come to New York, you're guaranteed a roof over 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:35.240 your head. I figure what the law is called. So 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:39.080