1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: This episode is brought to you by Squarespace. Start building 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: your website today at squares space dot com and her 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: offer code stuff at check out and get ten percent 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: off squares space. Build it beautiful. Welcome to you Stuff 5 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: you should know from house Stuff Works dot com. Hey, 6 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W. 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: Chuck Bryant, Jerry and stuff you should know. You're bombing 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: at the mouth, Jerry, don't let him bite you, all right, 9 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: you bet, Jerry. I'm gonna have to put both of 10 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: you down like Old Yellow. Let's do it about time. 11 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: I knew from day one when we started working together 12 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: that this is how it would conclude, me shooting both 13 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: of you because of brabies. Switten us down Old Yellow. 14 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: Wait wait, speaking of Old Yeller, I'm sorry. Have you 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: seen the kids in the hall take on Old Yeller? 16 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Yeah. Paul makes the kid shoot 17 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: the dog and he's his face is sprayed with blood 18 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: from the gunshot wound. So wonderful. Yeah. Worst children's book ever. Oh, 19 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: I guess we just spoiled it. Huh. Everyone knows Old 20 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: Yeller gets rabies and is shot. Yes, they don't even 21 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: bother emailing him. But there is a happy ending. Uh. 22 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: You know, Old Yeller has pups and they get a pup, 23 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: so instead of like coming back as a ghost dog, 24 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: that like helps things turn out well for the family. 25 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: It left a legacy in the Dawkinsian view right, still 26 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: the worst children's book ever, although it teaches valuable life 27 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,559 Speaker 1: lessons about death. Why you gotta do that by killing 28 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: Old Yeller? I don't know, but I mean it works 29 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: all right. Rabies, I don't know. I thought we'd done 30 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: this one. It seems like an obvious one for us. Yeah, 31 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: stuff in our wheelhouse for sure. Um. I did not 32 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: know this either. It is uh a virus on every 33 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: continent in the world except Antarctica. I think there's a 34 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: lot of viruses that hold that that title that aren't 35 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: on Antarctica in hospitable place. And if a virus is 36 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: on every continent, chances are it's a very old one too. 37 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: And rabies definitely is extremely old. Um. People have been 38 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: writing about rabies for a very long time. The Mesopotamians 39 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: who know it's old if you say that word, sure. Um. 40 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: They used to have a law where if your dog 41 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: was rabid, you faced the stiff penalty, a fine of sorts. 42 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: We have those laws today in the United States, I 43 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: mean a lot of our laws them from Mesopotamian, the 44 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: Code of Hammurabi. You know, like if you watch somebody's 45 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: house burned down and don't do anything, that person can 46 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 1: kill you. Still today, just like from the Code of Hammurabi. 47 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: So if your neighbor's house is on fire, you have 48 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: to put it out. You have to help put it out. 49 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: With Mesopotamia. Uh So, the word rabies um in many 50 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: languages means um a rage or go crazy. Um. In 51 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: Latin it is from a Sanskrit term rob haas to 52 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: do violence, and then French uh laarage it's the sexiest 53 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: form of rabies h comes from the French now and robert, 54 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: meaning to go mad. So if you're not picking up 55 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: on it. Um. It's not a friendly virus. No, it's 56 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: not the one that you get a dog. Well, actually 57 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: we'll talk about that. I'm gonna save it. And for 58 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: a long time, I mean, there was nothing we could 59 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: do about rabies um. People went to Liege, Belgium to 60 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: pray to um st Hubert. Yeah, it's a round name, 61 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: isn't it not. Yeah, St. Hubert was the patron saint 62 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: of Huntsman. Okay, and not quality footwear. No, and apparently 63 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: apparently No, that St. Clark Apparently um St. Hubbins. Actually, 64 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: I've not heard of that. It's a spinal tap joke. 65 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: You never get my spinal tap joke. No, I need 66 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: to see it more than once. Apparently there for the 67 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: people out there, that's fine. There's like a hundred dudes. Well, 68 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: just I'll sit here and be the straight man. I 69 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: don't know what I'm talking about. Yeah, Derek St. Hubbands 70 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: was the patron state of his ancestors, patron state of quality. 71 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: Great joke. That is a good joke, man, I'm sorry 72 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 1: stepped all over it. Um so in leaves you would 73 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: go and pray to St. Hubert for protection. Probably not 74 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: the most effective way to treat rabies. No, I don't 75 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: blame people for making a pilgrimage to leash. From what 76 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: I understand about rabies based on researching this, it's terrible. Yeah, 77 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: it's horrific and fatal. And it wasn't until the late 78 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: nineteenth century eighty five when the late Great Louis pasteur Man. 79 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: This dude, he what didn't that guy do? To save 80 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: the world. Yeah, we should. He's up in our line 81 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: and now we have a kind of ongoing line of 82 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: like great scientists. Uh, so we will include him on 83 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: the list, and we need to start acknowledging the ladies too, 84 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: So Madam Curie, we've got our eye on you. That's right, 85 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: that's right. Uh and um. Anyway, so Louis past Here 86 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: came up with a vaccine for rabies, and he was 87 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: he was one of the early germ theory guys. He 88 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: was very president person. His his inoculation trials were based 89 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: on the idea that if you introduced some like a 90 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:38,119 Speaker 1: low level of rabies to a living being, that living 91 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: being would produce anybody's and you could introduce increasingly larger 92 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: amounts over time, and eventually the person's antibodies would be 93 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: robust enough so that if they ever faced rabies in 94 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: the wild, they would be able to fight it off. 95 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: And he was absolutely right. And what a crazy thing 96 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: to think, though, you know, it is when no one 97 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: knows anything about germ theory, to like, like, why don't 98 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: we put the disease in the person, Maybe that'll help 99 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: cure it. And I think I think that was around 100 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: for a while, But I think it was like some 101 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: arcane knowledge that not everyone knew about, and past year 102 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: really capitalized amazing. Um. But he actually had been working 103 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: on something using rabbits as test cases and was basically 104 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: he proved it could work in humans by by a 105 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: boy who had been attacked by a dog, I think, 106 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: and contracted rabies. Um and uh, Louis past your said, 107 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: here goes nothing, and it's stuck in with the shot. 108 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: And the parents went and here goes nothing. Right, he 109 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: goes no nothing, And they said, well, you said this 110 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: is gonna work. I said, not a thing. It's good, Louis, 111 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: It's technically that. Um. The text you know them Chuck 112 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: Jones version of Napoleon when Bug's money st hang out 113 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: with him. That's how I learned to do a French accent. Chuck, 114 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: the Great Chuck Jones. Uh So, rabies. Let's talk a 115 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: little bit about what what it does in your body. Um, 116 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: it's really pretty vicious. It It is a viral disease, 117 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: like we said at the top, and it attacks the 118 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,559 Speaker 1: central nervous system, the brain and the central nervous system. Um. 119 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: It is part of the rab dough vera day. Yeah, 120 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: family under the genus. You take the genus the Lisa virus. 121 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: That was too easy. It was easy, um. And it 122 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: has shaped like a bullet and when it comes in 123 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: the body, it basically goes as fast as it can 124 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: to the spinal cord. Yeah, um, through something called afferent nerves. 125 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: With an A they carry impulses towards the central nervous system, 126 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: as opposed to efferent with an E they carry impulses away. 127 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: But it uses both. So this virus travels along um 128 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: the neural pathways through the central nervous system, and it 129 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: goes immediately to the central nervous or the spinal cord, 130 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: and then up to the brain. Yeah. And then the 131 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: brain that's where it replicates vicious. You remember like HIV 132 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: replicates inside t helper cells. Well, rabies is a virus 133 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: that replicates inside your neurons, your brain cells, which is 134 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: not a good place for a virus to start doing. 135 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: It's replicating right right, and right after it starts replicating 136 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: in the brain, it makes a second stop, a very 137 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: important stop, to your salivary glands. And the reason it 138 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: does that is because that is the number one mechanism 139 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: of transmission for rabies. Yeah, that's when you see the 140 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: foaming at the mouth. It's not just a uh symptom 141 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: of rabies. But that's the main way that you're going 142 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: to get it, is by being bitten by something with 143 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: all kinds of nasty rabid saliva and apparently because the 144 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: stuff is um wrecking your brain by hijacking your brain 145 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: cells and destroying them. There's two different versions of rabies, right, 146 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: and cephalatic, which is also known as the furious form 147 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: of rabies. That's the one you think of when you 148 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: think of a crazy rabid dog that's hallucinating and running 149 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: around in circles and chasing its tail and biting at 150 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 1: the air. UM old Yeller basically, although they toned it 151 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: down a bit. They did because they didn't want to 152 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 1: scare the kids before they And then there's a paralytic 153 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: or dumb form, and that one is um more like 154 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: lapsing into a coma basically UM. And I don't know. 155 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: Surely there's no way to predict which way that the 156 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: things the virus is going to go in a human right, 157 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: because it's destroying brain cells. I would think it would 158 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: just be totally accidental whether it went towards the encyphialtic 159 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: or the um paralytic form. That's a good question, you know, 160 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: it would just depend on where it lodges first, right, Yeah, 161 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: but both of the forms are in the acute stage. UM. 162 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: And here's what's so scary. Once it's in the acute stage, 163 00:09:54,559 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: once it's hit your central nervous system, you're done, exclusively done, 164 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: and we'll talk about that. That's that is the for 165 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: a very for millennia. The UM this the idea behind rabies. 166 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: It's like it was, it's a fatal disease, fatal, except 167 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: now they've started to find a few cases here there 168 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: that's not in the case, and it's they're starting to wonder, Okay, 169 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: is this something we could treat after people are traditionally goners. 170 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: Well that's a great tease. So let's uh take a 171 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: break and we'll come back right after this with moron rabies. Okay, 172 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: So we mentioned the two forms. They're both in the 173 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: acute stage, and apparently both stages can happen, uh in 174 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: a single case. It's not necessarily one of the other. Right, 175 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: it makes sense like if this region of your brain 176 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: is wrecked and you're furious and raging, well, eventually it's 177 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: going to get to the part of your brain where 178 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: you're like you can't move or breathe and you slip 179 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: in new coma and die of respiratory distress, you know. 180 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: But also got the impression that wasn't necessarily like that's 181 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: the path, Like it could start in the dumb stage 182 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like, it would 183 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: just depend on where the virus, what part of your 184 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: brain the virus goes to. It's got to you know. Um. 185 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: Something I didn't realize about Raby's chuck was that it's 186 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: exclusive to mammals. I knew that it didn't, um, But 187 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: I also have wondered over the years, like why isn't 188 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: like a rabid squirrel would be your worst nightmare I imagine, 189 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: you know, because they'll already come at you. Yeah, you know, 190 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 1: a rabid one would definitely come out you're one of 191 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: the One of the traits of or symptoms of rabid 192 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: mammal is that a wild one has no fear of humans. Yeah, 193 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: they're aggressive. Um. In fact, there's a case I looked up, 194 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: as I often do, just in the news, and a 195 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: little boy in New Jersey just this week was attacked 196 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: by raccoon. This raccoon leapt onto his back while he 197 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: was walking down the street during the day. And we 198 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: will get to the hallmarks. But that's very important. If 199 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: you see a nocturnal animal cruising around during the day 200 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: at great speeds, stay away. You're not supposed see racoons 201 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 1: in the neighborhood during the day. Yeah, just go get 202 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: your pause bb gun. Well, I don't know about that, 203 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: but call animal control and they'll get there. Be begun. Um. 204 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, this little boy was was this raccoon jumped 205 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: on his back and started biting his face and neck. 206 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: Where did you learn to pronounce rac raccoon? Now I 207 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: say raccoon. That's just one of my jokes. People don't 208 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: know though. When I said Alex Baldwin, people literally wrote 209 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: in were like, it's Alec, how did you miss thirty Rock? 210 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: And Alec Baldwin said, I don't care. Yeah, I don't 211 00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: know who this chuck is. So anyway, um, you're right. Um, 212 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: the little boy I think is gonna be okay, which 213 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: is a good news, but it's uh, well, we'll get 214 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: to the rarity of it. Plus he was attacked in 215 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: New Jersey, which is in the US which means he's 216 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: gonna be just fine. Right, But a long way of 217 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: saying that um, squirrels and mice and and other smaller 218 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: animals typically don't get it, and it makes good sense. 219 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: It's because if they are attacked by a rabid animal, 220 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: they're they're small and probably won't survive. Like if they 221 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: could very well get rabies. Every sign says they can, 222 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: but they'll probably pour A little mouse will probably just die, right, 223 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: because if a raccoon gets its hands on a mouse 224 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: and it bites it, that saliva is gonna be transmitted 225 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: to the wound. But you also need the host to 226 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: be alive for the virus to replicate in that host 227 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: exactly if their neck is broken and they're dead, then 228 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: that it's not gonna work. But yeah, absolutely, but you said, yes, 229 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: you can get a woodchuck with rabies. Woodchuck's raccoons Apparently 230 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: in the United States, reck wounds are the most common 231 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: vector for the disease um. Now, yes, uh, but for 232 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: the most part, it's larger, slight, slightly larger small mammals. 233 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? Wood chucks, raccoons, medium sized mammals, 234 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: medium size On the smallest side, a small to medium 235 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: a medium sized mammal. The means like um, I guess 236 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: kay uh. And it takes a few months for the 237 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: diseased or on its course, an animal. But the scary 238 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: thing is it can lie dormant in humans for years, 239 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: months or years. That's very scary, super scary. Yeah, because 240 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: you guys don't realize this, Like you think it's like 241 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: frossing at the mouth or something. No, the rabies virus 242 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: is one of the scariest viruses on the planet. It 243 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: is um so like I said, saliva is the mode 244 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: of transmission for most rabies cases, and you can catch 245 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: it very easily. Technically, if you had like an open 246 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: wound and you like rubbed your finger where the open 247 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: moond was. I guess I should have specified that earlier. 248 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: On the saliva of a rabid raccoon, you could easily 249 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: catch rabies, right, But that's an uncommon thing to do. 250 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: You could also if you um took the brain of 251 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: that raccoon and rubbed it on your open wound to 252 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: your finger, you could also catch it. Even more uncommon. 253 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: But if you came across a raccoon's poop that was 254 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: rabid and he took it and just rubbed it all 255 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: over your hands. The camouflage, the scent of your hand 256 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: probably the most uncommon. You would not catch rabies. That's 257 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: what the good news. Yeah, it doesn't transfer in the 258 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: feces or the blood or the p Yeah, the urine. 259 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: P uh oh man, it's been p fest at my house. 260 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: You want a little quick side story. I changed the 261 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: litter box before I went to Birmingham, and four days 262 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: later we realized that I didn't put litter in the 263 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: litter box, eat it, put the lid back on, put 264 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: it back in, rushed out of the door to drive 265 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: to Birmingham, and four days later we're like, our cats 266 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: are sick because they're peeing on everything in the house. 267 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: Emily went over and she went, hey, well, I won't 268 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: say what she said. It wasn't hey honey, Uh, guess what. 269 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: There's a lake of urine in the litter box and 270 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: it's all your fault. So we had to throw a 271 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: lot of things away in our home that previously we're 272 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: working just fine. Man, And uh, I got the Dummy 273 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: of the Year award in our house. That's cool. You 274 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: should instagram that trophy. Tell me of the year. Yeah, 275 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: that's just it's a tattoo now on my on my 276 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: lower back of Alfreddy Newman. So anyway, we we've been 277 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: in urine lands. It is so gross and cat pea 278 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: is not you know, it's it's tough to mask. So 279 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: we're really of man, what a dummy. So anyway, just 280 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: the moral of the story is litter is a very 281 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: important part of the letter box. So and luckily if 282 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: your cats are rabid, you wouldn't have caught anything from that. No, 283 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: but I'm sure i have what's it called, what's the 284 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: cat disease from changing letter? Oh, toxic plasmos has gone. 285 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure I've had that for years. Um, that's why 286 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: you do most of the things you do, that's right. 287 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: So uh, it is a very adaptive disease. Um. And 288 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: here's another scary thing, although it's it's not that scary 289 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: because it's super super rare, but in laboratories it has 290 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: been transmitted through the air aerosol transmission, and they have 291 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: found one case where it actually happened in the wild. 292 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: But it was a cave that had like tens of 293 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: millions of infected bats like sneezing and coughing up their junk. Everywhere. 294 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: And in that case, uh, someone got raby supposedly thick 295 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: the air three into the cave in Texas. But that 296 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: that's uh again not something you need worry about. Yeah, 297 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: but humans can spread it to and remember you can 298 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: spread it through saliva, which means that if you are kissing, 299 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: especially kissing with tongue style a rapid person. And remember 300 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: it can take months, if not years, for the symptoms 301 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 1: to set on. UM, you could conceivably catch rabies from that. 302 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,360 Speaker 1: You can also catch it as an STD to sexual contact. 303 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: They believe this is the CDC theorizing. At this point 304 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: there's no documented cases um. And then you could also 305 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: conceivably catch it from like sharing a cigarette with somebody 306 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: or drinking after somebody using the same glass. Again in theory, 307 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: any transmission of shared saliva. But here's the scariest one 308 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: to me, Um, it has happened before where you get 309 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: a transplant of an organ, typically a corneal transplant, and 310 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: get rabies that way. Yeah, it's like we accidentally gave 311 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: you a corn it with rabies. Yeah. Sorry, And one 312 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: of the problems do you think, well, how could that 313 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: possibly happen? Apparently rabies is very hard to detect and 314 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: the main place is to detect it. Remember, it doesn't 315 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,239 Speaker 1: show up in your blood or anything like that. I 316 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: know you're in feces is um, in the saliva and 317 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: in the uh um brain. Well yeah, and the saliva. 318 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: It's not even super accurate and it takes longer. So 319 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: for the past forty years in the United States, the 320 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: way they test for rabies if an animal has bit 321 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: your child as they capture it and they cut its 322 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:40,719 Speaker 1: head off and inspect the brain. Right, that's horrifying, it is. 323 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: But unfortunately, like necessary, I guess of a raccoon bite 324 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: your kid off with the head. Maybe an animal lover 325 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: out there who's developing scientists will come up with a better, 326 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: more accurate rabies test that will save the lives of 327 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: thou Since millions of wood chucks around the world. But 328 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 1: I wonder how many times they've been like, oh, thankfully, 329 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: no rabies. Yeah no, I'm sure, but sorry, your head 330 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: has cut off. Yeah, Like imagine being the clinician who 331 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,719 Speaker 1: did that. It's kind of bumm you out. Yeah, absolutely, 332 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 1: because it's like this thing's head was cut off because 333 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: somebody thought it had rabies. Terrible all right, So, um, 334 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: everybody UM knows through popular culture and things like Old 335 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: Yellow that the foaming of the mouth of a crazy 336 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: looking dog is a pretty good sign to stay clear. 337 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: But there are many other ways, especially if they have 338 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: the dumb form that you might not know. Uh. And 339 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: here are some of the symptoms. Partially we're fully paralyzed 340 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: animal loss of appetite, and a lot of these can 341 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: be confused for other things. Because my dearly deceased dog 342 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: Lucy probably ticked off about nine. She really like strange 343 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: behaviors like snapping at the air or turning in circles. 344 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: Lucy did that. Uh. Nocturnal animals who wander during the day. Um, 345 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: Like I said, if you see a raccoon walking around 346 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: during the day, it's not a good sign. Drool excessively. 347 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: Lucy drooled. Wild animals who show no fear of humans. Uh. 348 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: Signs of pikea like eating things that aren't food. Lucy 349 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: did that all the time, UM. Sporadic changes in mood 350 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: or behavior Lucy restless or aggressive, no, obviously disoriented Lucy. 351 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: And then a change in voice which I thought was strange. 352 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: She was like uh. And generally it varies by regions, 353 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: so like maybe here in the South, raccoons or maybe 354 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: in another place that might be skunks largely, right with 355 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: the animals that have it the most. Um. Yeah, but 356 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: apparently in the United States it's raccoons for sure, they 357 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 1: have the most. But the mode of transmission in the 358 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 1: United States UM comes through bats more frequently. Yeah, that's 359 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: the big days. So if you get like a hundred 360 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: bats and a hundred raccoons, more raccoons are going to 361 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: have rabies. But you're more likely to catch rabies from 362 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: a bat than a raccoon. Yeah. And why is that. Well, 363 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: there's a few reasons bats can get into places that 364 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: raccoons can't. Um and Uh. Bats also have very tiny teeth. Uh. 365 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: And if you're sleeping in a room and you wake 366 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: up and there's a bat in it, it's recommended that 367 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: you kill that bat and take it in for rabies testing. Um. 368 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: So then they can kill it for you. They can 369 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: do your dirty work for you. Um. But the reason 370 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: why is because a bat's teeth are so fine that 371 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: you can have been bitten in the night and it 372 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't have woken you up. You won't you won't know 373 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: that you were bitten, but you may have contracted rabies 374 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: in that case. C R excellent episode on bats, yeah, 375 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: which which is excita because they bats are wonderful. Remember 376 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: Louis came like bat crazy over that one. Yeah, very 377 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: bat friendly podcast. Yeah, so don't don't kill it bets. 378 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, just look the other way 379 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: if you see a bat in your room, because something 380 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: bad is gonna happen to that bad. If your dog, 381 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: we'll take a break after this. But if your dog 382 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: is potentially bitten by an animal you think it might 383 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: be rabid, they will be isolated for ten days, um, 384 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: and if they make it through that ten days, then 385 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: you're home free. If they don't. Sadly, that means you 386 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: have to go the old yellow route, except these days 387 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: it's much more humane. Well I don't know about more humane, 388 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: but they don't take it behind the bart and shoot it. 389 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean I would call that more humane. 390 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: But in you know, rural Texas, they might be like, no, 391 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: that's quick and easy and painless, just like the shot 392 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: with the lethal injection. Yeah, I'm sure that's what they 393 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: call in Texas. Okay, all right, let's take a break. 394 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: Then I'm gonna get your stuff together, get my stuff 395 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: together and we'll come back with more rabies. Chuck. You 396 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 1: ever been to Bali? Nope? Do you haven't neither by Bali, um, 397 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: like Hawaii and some other places around the world, is 398 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: actually a UM it was a rabies free zone, a 399 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: place where like no cases of rabies have been reported. Uh. 400 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: They're usually isolated, which makes it hard to get rabies 401 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 1: into and they usually also have some um really top 402 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: Nutch governmental restrictions, like if you try to take a 403 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: dog in or out of Hawaii, it takes a very 404 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: long time and a lot of paperwork. And one of 405 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: the reasons why it's because they don't want rabies come 406 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: going into their to their states. Taking moment Hawaii. No, 407 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: that's why she would be but no, we basically she 408 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: would get out of quarantine about the time we were leaving. 409 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: So um, but my in laws moved and they took 410 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: their dogs with them, and yeah, it was a big deal. Yeah, 411 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: but in Bali specifically, they were rabies free until two 412 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: thousand and eight, and um, some dogs contracted rabies somehow 413 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: and bit some people and some people died and it 414 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: was a big deal. There goes our rabies free designation. Yeah, 415 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: so they can get it back right. Well, yeah, um, 416 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: the government has been eradicating aggressively the rabies that was 417 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: found on the island. And I'm not sure if they're 418 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: doing this. I know they're doing a lot of euthanizing, 419 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: or they did in the affected areas. But in the 420 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: United States, UM, some wildlife services they're leaving basically what 421 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: amounts to like a high dose of um oral rabies 422 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: vaccine as tasty eight out just out in the woods 423 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: to try to like control rabies in the raccoon population. 424 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: Apparently doesn't harm humans or dogs too debate. And the 425 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: reason that they're doing this is because they saw what 426 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: a great work, what a great job at eradicating rabies 427 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: among dogs in the United States, because it used to 428 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: be that rabies in the US was very frequently transmitted 429 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: by dogs, and in a lot of the rest of 430 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: the world, Um, the dogs are still a major mode 431 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: of transmission, right, but in the US of rabies vaccination 432 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: push among um pets has really lowered that that in 433 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: the in the dog population especially, and push meaning laws. UM. 434 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: I don't think it's in every state now, but I 435 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: think most states now required by laws pretty sensible. Yeah, 436 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: if you have a pet. You should have a non 437 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: rabid pet. Yeah, Like he would say no, no, I don't, 438 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: I don't want my dog getting that. Rabies would say 439 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: that probably. So uh, this is the most recent stat 440 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: we have. In two thousand six, UM point zero one, 441 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: one of all rabies cases in the United States were 442 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: almost said feline were canine eleven thousands. Yeah, so that's 443 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: virtually nil and I believe um in two thousand six 444 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: that same year, not one case of rabies death came 445 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: from an American dog, not one case of human rabi's death. Correct. Yeah. 446 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: And then of all us wildlife rabies cases are bats, 447 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: which led to in two thousand six UM, two of 448 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: the three rabies related deaths were from bat transmissions bat bites. Yes, 449 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: could actually let me. I spoke wrong that it wasn't 450 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: in two thousand six. It was only since night there 451 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: has not been one case of death from an American dog. Man, 452 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: So that's great. They really kind of eradicated that here. 453 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:08,239 Speaker 1: But elsewhere in the world. Um again, catching rabies from 454 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: being bitten by a dog is still a real problem. 455 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, the World Health Organization called 456 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: rabies among neglected diseases, one of the most most one 457 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: of the most neglected among neglected diseases, there's still thirty 458 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: thousand to seventy thousand people who die every year. It's 459 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: around one every ten minutes from rabies in the developing world. Like, 460 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: think about that in the United States, three people died 461 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: in two thousand and six. That was a bad year. 462 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: Seventy thousand people as much as seventy people around the 463 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: world are dying from rabies. And these, uh, the countries 464 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: that have these really high rabies mortality rates and humans 465 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: are also the ones that usually have, um the least 466 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: amount of money you pay for inoculations and also even 467 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: further have even less money to inoculate their dogs. So 468 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: there's a huge push right now among scientists be like, um, 469 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: the rest of the world, you guys need to pay 470 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: to eradicate rabies at least in the dog population around 471 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: the world. Do something. Uh. And and also when you 472 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: have that rural areas, they're not able to get to 473 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: the clinics to receive those regular inoculations. Yeah, because so 474 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: Pasteur came up with the rabies vaccine and basically his 475 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: technique has been only slightly altered over the years. Um, 476 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: that's still a series of shots in the United States 477 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: or the West. The ones that we have are five 478 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: shots over the course of a period of time, and 479 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: again it's boosting your immunity slowly. And it's a very 480 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: similar thing in the UH in what did the guy 481 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: in the in the emails say for the last the 482 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: last listener mail, instead of developing the lower income countries 483 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: in lower income countries, um, they they they have a 484 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: schedule as well. It's not all getting them at once. 485 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: They have to boost your immunity and it may not 486 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: be something like driving down the street to the minute 487 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: clinic to get this stuff done. You may have to 488 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: travel quite a ways and again miss some work. So 489 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: it's a big problem. Yeah, you mentioned pasteurs. Brilliant idea. 490 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: He used the it's called an attenuated UH form of rabies. 491 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,959 Speaker 1: It's it's weakened but still alive that he gathered from 492 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: spinal cords of animals. These days they kind of do 493 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: the same thing, but it is not a live form 494 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: of the virus. It is a dead form of the virus. 495 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: But like you said, the same idea is that will 496 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: give you this slowly and before it reaches your spinal cord. Ideally, UM, ideally, 497 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: if you want to live, then you've built up the immunity. Uh, 498 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: there are some if you have some extra dough in 499 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: your pocket and want to help out some groups. There's 500 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: um a couple of groups that are working to eradicate 501 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: rabies in low income countries, like Rita Rabies in the 502 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: America's and Raby Free Raby's Free World are both working 503 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: to eradicate rabies elsewhere. Yeah, and if you have been 504 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: bitten by a animal that you were worried about, um, 505 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: I would just immediately, you know, if I got bitten 506 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: by a squirrel or something, I would go to the 507 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: doctor and just get it checked out. Obviously immediately. You 508 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: don't walk that one off. But here are some oh 509 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: this a little sting. Oh well, let's just see what happens. 510 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: Like the man who castrated himself and then sat down 511 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: to dinner in the nineteenth century. Remember we talked about him. 512 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: He read his Bible and then ate dinner and then 513 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: then went to the doctor. Right. Here are some of 514 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: the symptoms. And humans humans human beings, not human beings. 515 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: I bury it you, rabbit, stomach pains, a change in personality, anxiety. 516 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: I'm also biting at the air, uh, stomach pains, anxiety, restlessness, fever. 517 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: Do you have any of this? Nope, increased aggression, sore throat, 518 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: excessive saliva, hallucinations, delirium. If that's happening you, you are 519 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: really like, should go to the doctor. Yeah, coma at 520 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: that point you should have someone take you to the doctor. 521 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: And then something called hydrophobia, which we should cover. That 522 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: used to be a word for rabies, Like you could 523 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: say that person has rabies, or you could say that 524 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: person has hydrophobia, and it used to mean the same thing. 525 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: And what and why, what's the deal with hydrophobia? It's 526 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: a it's an intense, unreasonable fear of water that develops 527 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: from raby symptoms. Apparently, Yeah, because I think drinking is uh. 528 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: You have a very violent, painful spasms and responses to 529 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: trying to swallow water, and so you become fearful of water. 530 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: That's crazy, which is really really sad because you're drooling 531 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: and you're producing tons of saliva, but you also are 532 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: just dying of thirsty basically. But if you do drink anything, 533 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: the pain from your throat muscles contracting is so bad 534 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: that you will just not drink. You would just rather 535 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: not drink anything. And and apparently you become fearful of 536 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: even the concept of drinking, so you get scared of water. 537 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: That's also because your brain is deteriorating at a rapid rate. Man. 538 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, this is not fun. This is not nice stuff. 539 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: And and again. For years and years and years and 540 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: years up until like the last few years, I think 541 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: that the common conventional wisdom was if you if rabies 542 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: got to your central nervous system, bye bye, we might 543 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: as well old yellow you because you're not going to 544 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: survive and you're going to die one of the worst 545 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: deaths we could think of. H And it wasn't until 546 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: two thousand uh four. Yeah, Gina, Gina, guys, I thought 547 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: you could say, Gina gershawn. No, it's like, oh, that's 548 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: what happened to her. Gina. Guys. She was a girl, 549 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: a teenager in Wisconsin who was bitten by a bat, 550 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: I think, and some doctor said, um, you're a goner, 551 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: but I'm not going to give up on you, Gina, 552 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: no way, no how uh sleep now, baby, I'm gonna 553 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: put you in a coma. And he put her in 554 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: a medically induced coma and it was enough so that 555 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: her body was able to fight off the Raby's infection. 556 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: So she survived the raby's infection without being inoculated previously, 557 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: and um apparently without the inoculation being given to her 558 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: in a rapid enough time. So she literally survived a 559 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: Raby's infection. And now they call that procedure of the 560 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 1: Milwaukee protocol, and it saved five more people's lives. They 561 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: call it that. Yeah, And there was a study in 562 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: Peru and uh in the Andies, a lot of Peruvian 563 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 1: groups live near baths, they have to deal with bats. 564 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: Apparently some Peruvians have developed immunity to rabies and they 565 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 1: documented I think about a dozen Peruvians who survived rabies 566 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: without any inoculations. So they're saying, Okay, this isn't a 567 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: one percent fatal disease. We can work with that. But 568 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: it's like really big Gangbusters news. Is it's almost like 569 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: a natural inoculation that's happening though the same idea right there, 570 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: getting exposed to it gradually. I don't know. I don't 571 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: know if that if these people had been bitten before, 572 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: or if some sort of inoculation was passed down to 573 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: them through heredity, you know, like I don't know. I'm 574 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: not sure. Like Grand Pappy was strong against the rabies, right, 575 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: So I am right, that's how the jeans work, all right. 576 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: From nineteen fifties to the roughly mid nineteen eighties. Uh, 577 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:37,320 Speaker 1: the horror stories were true. You did get like upwards 578 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 1: of twenty to twenty three shots in the belly and 579 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: the abdomen to treat rabies big needles. Right. Yeah, there 580 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: was not an old wives tale. It was a very 581 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: painful procedure. Um. I tried to find out why it 582 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: was done in the belly, and the only thing I 583 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 1: could find it's completely unsubstantiated, but makes sense. Apparently after 584 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: you start having these shots, um, somewhere between ten and twenty, 585 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: you start having really bad reactions and inflammation, and but 586 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: you need to give them in the same area. So 587 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: the belly was the largest part of the body that 588 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: you could still find a place to give the injection. 589 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: So I don't know if this true or not. That 590 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: makes sense. Uh, And we have to mention Ozzy Osborne. 591 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 1: But biting the head off the bat, Yeah, it wasn't 592 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 1: a live bat. You know. Well, there's different stories. It 593 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: wasn't allow No, no no, he swears it was alive because 594 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,479 Speaker 1: he felt the head moving in his mouth. Oh, other 595 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 1: people have said that it wasn't a lot. Of the 596 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: fan that threw the bat on stage said it was dead. 597 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: Azzis Azzi. He's like, it was a lot. Uh, thank you, 598 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: but that is not an old why. He also bit 599 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 1: the head off a pigeon at a party. But um, 600 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,879 Speaker 1: he thought the bat was a toy. Apparently did bite 601 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: the bat's head and did get those injections as a 602 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 1: preventative measure, but he did not ever contract rabies. Smart um, 603 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: and this you know who knows. It's also called a 604 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: legend in some circles. So, but I think it really 605 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: happened documented. While I was researching this, I was like, wow, 606 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: I am not inoculated against rabies. Maybe I should just 607 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: go ahead and do that. Would be kind of neat 608 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,800 Speaker 1: to be like, go ahead and bite me, raccoon, you're crazy, raccoon, 609 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: I'm fine, And then you could continue your ongoing battle 610 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: with your squirrels, your sports deck squirrels. Now the squirrels 611 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 1: one I had to take down the bird feeder. You 612 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: just gave up. Now. The kind of complex was like, 613 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 1: you're not allowed to have those the attract squirrels. I'm like, yeah, 614 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:39,399 Speaker 1: no doubt they squirrels. I know. So I said there, 615 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: it's fine. You anything else, Nope, rabies. If you want 616 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 1: to know more about it, type that word into the 617 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: search bar how stuff works dot com. Are A B 618 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: y s and it will bring up this awesome article. 619 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: I know, I know. I'm just do it correctly that way. 620 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: R A B I E S. That's right? All right? 621 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,439 Speaker 1: Uh did you say that? Oh? And since I misspelled something, 622 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 1: it's time for a listener mail. I'm gonna call this 623 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: um cringe worthy experience. Oh god, why did we ask? Hey, 624 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 1: guys have been listening for a couple of years, writing 625 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: for the first time to tell you a compelling story 626 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 1: about the time my dad's eyeball fell out of his head. 627 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: Perhaps I should say it was forced out of his head. 628 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,959 Speaker 1: It takes place before I was born, But the way 629 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: he tells it, it will make you hesitant to go 630 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 1: water skiing. See, my dad was a mobbing force serve 631 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. In particular, you wouldn't want to let 632 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: your your body or your face become parallel to the 633 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 1: water surface when you're going around a bend in the river. 634 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 1: So when that happens. You can experience what happened to 635 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: my dad. His face skimmed to the water, and the 636 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: force of that cast his eyeball to pop right out 637 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: of his head. It's stuff that urban legends are made of. 638 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,479 Speaker 1: So there my dad is in excruciating pain, treading water 639 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 1: with his eye ball in the palm of his hand. 640 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 1: If you're ever so lucky as to have your eyeball 641 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: outside of your head, hope that it's still attached. Like 642 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,280 Speaker 1: my dad's eyeball was. Cum as he got river water 643 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: in his eye socket, he forced it back into his 644 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 1: eye socket and there was nothing else he could do 645 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 1: at that crucial moment. As I understand that, he never 646 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,239 Speaker 1: went to see a doctor, and as I has been 647 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: turned at a three to five degree angle. Ever his 648 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 1: name is John Rambo. That is crazy. She said. He 649 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: was relieved six months later while the white static he 650 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 1: was seeing slowly started to return and he had normal 651 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: vision once again. That's outcome bias. If I've ever seen it, cringe, 652 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: if you experienced any squeamish feelings, I consider it his 653 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: story well told. Yeah, well well told story about that 654 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: is from Lena or Lina in California to California boy. 655 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. Her dad has made of some tough stuff. 656 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 1: If he did not be good to a doctor, he's 657 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 1: like hero not oh simohia. Yeah it's crazy. So uh 658 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: did somebody else wrote in and got me um about 659 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: having to get shots like up their nose? That one 660 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: got me too, So whoever wrote in with that one 661 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 1: hats off. Well. At least this guy got a great 662 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 1: nickname out of it, Old River Water Sucket, Jimmy the Mouthful. Uh. 663 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: If you have a crunch versy story, keep it to yourself, 664 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 1: send us something else in via tweet to s y 665 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: s K podcast, or join us on Facebook dot com, 666 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: uh slash stuff you should Know? Send us an email 667 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 1: to Stuff podcast. 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