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Speaker 3: Hello, no no, no, no, no, no no. Welcome to

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Speaker 3: the naughty but nice Sham. Your host rump Shooter. And

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Speaker 3: it is Wednesday, which means a dear friend. Donny Meecham

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Speaker 3: joins us. Hey, Donnie, are you there?

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Speaker 2: Hello alone, It's Wednesday once again. I'm here to save

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Speaker 2: the show.

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Speaker 1: Help. I really do like we joke about it and

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Speaker 1: we played up. But there's a lot going on in

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Speaker 1: the world right now.

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Speaker 3: Hell going on. Let's go on. Did you hear my

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Speaker 3: dog dog doggy? Let's get the right did you hear

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Speaker 3: my doggie? He was saying, hello, Donnie, he hears you're

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Speaker 3: here to save the day again, which should be your

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Speaker 3: middle name. Okay, let's jump into a silly show. What

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Speaker 3: time is it, my friends? It is tea time. Okay.

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Speaker 3: Big story at the top of the show. Taylor Swift

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Speaker 3: has missed a few of Travis Else's games, and people

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Speaker 3: are wondering are they over Well, they are not. I've

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Speaker 3: got no reporting that says Taylor was missing from her

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Speaker 3: NFL star boyfriend's last two games, but you shouldn't jump

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Speaker 3: to conclusions about this. Sources say there is no trouble

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Speaker 3: in Paradise. Taylor is swamped. She's in rehearsals again for

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Speaker 3: her tour, which is about to kick off once again

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Speaker 3: October eighteenth in Miami. This tour is never gonna win.

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Speaker 3: It is the most fabulous show I think I've ever

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Speaker 3: seen in the stadium. She's up there with the best,

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Speaker 3: with the Michael Jackson's, the Madonnas. She is incredible. So

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Speaker 3: why ended? I am told that it is scheduled to

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Speaker 3: end in December, but there's demand for more tickets. She

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Speaker 3: could go on the road for ten years with this

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Speaker 3: if she keeps selling these stadiums. But I think she's

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Speaker 3: gonna end in December. But because she's a true professional,

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Speaker 3: I like this, Danaa. She went back into rehearsal, so

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Speaker 3: she's done over what one hundred shows? You think she

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Speaker 3: knows the act by now? Well, she does. But even

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Speaker 3: Taylor Taylor is such a perfectionist that me and you, Donnie,

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Speaker 3: we might turn up a week before. No. Taylor's back

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Speaker 3: in rehearsals, man, And when it comes to her fans

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Speaker 3: and her shows, that's always a priority. And I don't

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Speaker 3: think this is putting Travis on the back burner. He's

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Speaker 3: doing his job. She's doing her job and then they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, I think it's absence makes the

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Speaker 2: heart grow fonder, and I think you know, I would

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Speaker 2: do virus Taylor Swift. I would purposefully skip his games,

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Speaker 2: just to let him know if you fall around, I'm

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Speaker 2: not always going to be there because.

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Speaker 3: You play games. Because you play games, That's why you

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Speaker 3: play games. You do play games. I would not skip

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Speaker 3: the games to teach him a lesson. But if you've

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Speaker 3: got a I used your terrible that's why. But who's

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Speaker 3: married to me or you? So there you go, Who's

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Speaker 3: you have a point? Okay, I have a point.

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Speaker 2: Taylor is a perfectionist point. But also you could say,

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Speaker 2: what do you want about Taylor Swift, whether you.

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Speaker 1: Like her or not, her attachment to her fans or her.

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Speaker 3: She dedicationated, Yes, yes, put on a good show. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's something. Now, another reason that she's not there Page

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Speaker 3: six is reporting is some security concerns. And so if

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Speaker 3: There are some concerns about this. We know what happened

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine being told you shouldn't go somewhere, you

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Speaker 3: shouldn't do something because we don't know if we can

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Speaker 2: It is a sad reality of the world. But that's

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Speaker 2: what people don't understand. If Taylor Swith is going to

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Speaker 1: But the fact is it's a sad state of the world.

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Speaker 1: You are, you know, dangerous. There are dangerous things in

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Speaker 3: And it takes one to mess all this stuff. When

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Speaker 3: what I don't want to live that way. I don't

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Speaker 3: want to live that way, but Taylor really does. So

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Speaker 3: missing games for a few reasons. One, security very sad. Two,

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Speaker 3: she's very busy, and I told Travis doesn't mind either.

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Speaker 3: He does not get at all her shows, which are

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Speaker 3: obviously it's going to overlap a little bit. But there's

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Speaker 3: no need to be worried here. Don't listen. There's rumors

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Speaker 3: on the internet. I've seen the tweets, I've seen them Naughty's.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you they are still together and they're still happy,

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Speaker 3: which brings us to our whole question of the day.

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Speaker 3: Taylor has missed a few of Travis's games, but their

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Speaker 3: romance is still going strong. Do you think it's important

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Speaker 3: Or no? Come on, naughties, don't let me down. Go

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Speaker 3: vote on our Twitter page, our naughty nice Rather we

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Speaker 3: sure shut back to my raw your results. Hey Donny Love,

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Speaker 2: So this story is it's relatable and it actually I

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Speaker 2: And granted, you're like, okay, why are you so emotionally

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Speaker 2: I already, I've done that in my life.

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Speaker 1: I have kids already. I have already you know, done.

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Speaker 2: And for him, it's not fair for him to not

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Speaker 1: I'm like, if I was to ever found someone you

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Speaker 3: Would we like?

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Speaker 1: Age would play?

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Speaker 3: They might unless you dated somebody your own age. Heaven forbid,

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Speaker 3: I know you're not thinking about that. Are you expand

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Speaker 3: than I am, So I sometimes think about stuff like this,

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Speaker 3: not very often. We're compatible, our values are the same,

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's an age actual issue at all.

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Speaker 3: I think it's just what you want out of life.

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Speaker 1: Are that boy, you better back thirty.

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Speaker 3: Let six. But you don't have to be young to

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Speaker 2: And then we came down to my friend was like, look,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's greater than the love of having children. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: this is what you know. Life's options. It's totally options

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Speaker 3: But don't pretend you want to be in a committed relationship.

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Speaker 3: And so you've just got to be honest with yourselves.

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Speaker 3: Who are you? In four words? That sounds familiar, now,

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Speaker 3: who are you? Like? Figure it. I don't believe the

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Speaker 3: but I don't think so we want the same things.

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Speaker 3: Like your friend ten years ago when he got married,

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Speaker 3: he probably wanted kids. Then they should have disisgussed. There's

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Speaker 3: nothing we can't fix. There's no conclusion we can't come

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Speaker 3: Moving along. Queen Camilla blocks King Charles from reconciling with

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Speaker 3: because of Camilla, and Insider revealed that Camilla didn't want

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Speaker 3: It always happens. Television is a fickle business and shows

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Speaker 3: shaw and'll shoot dada been donny mechum, Hey Donnie, let's

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Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey's ex is firing back Captain Taylor Swift. Fans

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Speaker 3: our question was, should Taylor get involved? Should she speak

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Speaker 1: For me, it's never right. I just sometimes you know

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think you're onto something. Care Real Taylor

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Speaker 3: that girl. Very interesting, Donnie, don't forget to vote on

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Speaker 3: It's time for anicis of.

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Speaker 1: The day, the nic of the day.

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Speaker 3: It's Lizzo.

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Speaker 2: Lizzo opening up about struggles with overeating. It's important weight

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Speaker 2: she said that she felt really bad that she over

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Speaker 3: day you naughty, naughty? The Real Housewives are the naughtiest

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Speaker 3: of the day. So Christian Siriano is spilling the details

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Speaker 3: have a moment of rob Heidi Klum said the following,

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Speaker 3: if you have all the money in the world and

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Speaker 3: is that what you want? Think about that? Having accomplishments,

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