1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to wired to hunts, Rut fresh radio, bringing you 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: the latest reports from the White Tail Woods, and now 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: your hosts, Casey Smith Tyler Jones. This is Rut fresh 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: radio powered by vortex. I'm your host, Casey Smith, and 5 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: this week we're talking about how good access can get 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: you on a big buck. What's up, y'all? This is 7 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: rough fresh radio, powered by VORTEX, and today we're talking 8 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: to hunters from all across the country who've got some 9 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: pretty slick tactics. I mean even some stuff you've never 10 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: heard of. flactics, slactics, baby. That helped them getting on 11 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: some giant bucks and have some really great hunts. So 12 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 1: look forward to that. But right now I am actually 13 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: in the room with one Tyler Jones, the mountain man himself, 14 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: Tyler Jones, Mr Mule deer splitter, Tyler Jones. Man, how 15 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 1: are you feeling, tyler? Are you black back over two 16 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: hundred yet? Are you still slim pickings? I'm two tents 17 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: of a pound over two hundred. All right, just wait, man. Yeah, 18 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: so been hogging out southern the last week or so. 19 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: My goal is to be the second heaviest person on 20 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: the element team and I've been that quite a few times. 21 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: I don't think I am right now after my hunt. 22 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: I'm still a little higher than you were because only 23 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: hunting for two days, so I got to pig out 24 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: on the way home and eat some Chil eyes, Um Buds. 25 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: When you're a good hunter, man, no, you don't have 26 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 1: to hunt very hard. Uh, I wouldn't. I don't know 27 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: if to say that, but no matter what, our buddy 28 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: mark Kenyon will never weigh as much as you right, 29 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: even though he's taller. He's he is what what did 30 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: y'all call him? PENCILMAN's mark? Is Uh in Um Ottaho 31 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: hunting hard right now. So he's not on the show 32 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: with us today, but we'll have him and Josh on 33 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: the show next week to discuss all of their adventures 34 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: in Idaho and get the low down on what it's 35 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: like hunting bucks in the West and what you can 36 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: look forward to now. But, Tyler, last week we talked 37 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: a little bit about your mule to your hunt, and 38 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: this is all sharpening us, getting US ready for up 39 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: and and why tell hunts. But why don't you tell 40 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: me a little bit about how you changed as a 41 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: hunter hunting that mule, Deier um? Well, so actually the 42 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: preparation of of like leading up to that hunt changed 43 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: me as a shooter really. Um, I knew that this, 44 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: that I would draw this tag Um, that I had 45 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: the points to draw it and would draw it. And so, basically, 46 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: since I've known that, even before I drew the tag 47 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: probably I started really like dialing in my shooting and 48 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: being very consistent day in and day out with shooting. Um, 49 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of guys out here that 50 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: I understand this when I say this, but prior to 51 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: Um doing this, I guess you could say full time, 52 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: I um sometimes would pull out the bow about August 53 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 1: and start shooting for the first time since November pretty much. 54 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, and I think a lot 55 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: of guys do that and I don't think it's I 56 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: don't feel like for me there's a lot like riding 57 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: a bike. I could literally pull my bow out and 58 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: shoot accurately out to forty, which is all I mean, 59 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 1: like really accurately out to forty, which is all I 60 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: needed to shoot at deer Um back then. But Um, 61 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: we do a lot of different things across the country 62 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: now that might require different uh positions to be in 63 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: when you shoot slash different distances. Um. And I did 64 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: shoot this melder at a long distance, and I did 65 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: that I actually was ten yards inside of what I 66 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: felt was good. Um. And I shot a group, a 67 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: very tight group. My last group that I shot at distance, Um, 68 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: was it was what I basically decided that was gonna 69 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: to be. Um, you know what I end up shooting at. 70 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: I actually talked to a guy last night at a 71 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: fish fry and, uh, this isn't a fish boil, for 72 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: all you wisconsiners out there, and that was what they 73 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: call it. A boyl. It's what a boy it's a boil, right, 74 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: a bowl, when they like do like and stuff? No, 75 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: I think they do. They have like a deal. They're 76 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: probably yelling at me right now, but it's like a 77 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: deal where you throw fishing to a boil instead of like, ah, 78 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: I think so. It's definitely, you know, a little so. Uh. Anyway, 79 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: at the fish fry this guy told me, you know, 80 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: he said, Um, he was shooting good out of eight, 81 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: and I was like really, he goes, yeah, I wan't 82 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: good enough to kill a deer. And I started thinking 83 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 1: about it and I'm like, well, some people think that 84 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: if you're shooting at the range, you know, inside of 85 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: a deer's lungs, then you're good to go at that range. 86 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you right now. You guys know that 87 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: is blackout city whenever a deer comes in. Sometimes. I 88 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: believe it was Tony treach that said. You can have that. that. 89 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: I was reading. What's his name? They got kills big 90 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: mule deer. UHMER Omer, that's it. UH, he says. That's 91 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: what he says too. So yeah, I've heard him said 92 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: it too. As you said, half of that or whatever, 93 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: which I don't actually agree with either, but it's a 94 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: good principle to possibly live by. But I would say, Um, 95 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: before you answered the question, that was what I was 96 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: going to say. Is The answer for you is, and 97 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 1: knowing you for a while like that's the thing that 98 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: has changed the most I've seen in you as a 99 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: hunter is your comfort at longer distances, and I think 100 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: it comes from just some dedication to shooting, for sure, 101 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: and you're good at it. I mean you shot a 102 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: really awesome white til last year at uh, pretty long range, 103 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: and I say it, yeah, and then you shot, you 104 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,119 Speaker 1: know that's so relative for people, you know, but uh yeah, 105 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: fifty and then you shot, because I know there's a 106 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: people out there I think I'm an idiot for doing that, 107 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: you know, but it was perfect. I mean, would you 108 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: say leave is an idiot for shooting fifth a deer 109 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: at fifty leave? I was the man. Believe I could 110 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: put it through his eyes. I guarantee you know what 111 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: I mean, but you're not. But I practice a lot 112 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: of people and I learned like what I where I 113 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: can put it, you know, and I feel like if 114 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: I'm shooting a four inch group at a distance, that 115 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: I should be able to shoot a white tell at that. Yeah, exactly. 116 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: All in all, ethics are literally based on yourself and 117 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: what you think. Absolutely and if y'all are interested in 118 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 1: watching that multary hunt, it's absolutely awesome. It is on 119 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: the element Youtube Channel. Go check that out if you haven't. 120 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: Uh that that uh, that hunt is epic and I 121 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: can't wait to see that deer. But back to your 122 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: thing about like how it's on you. I just went 123 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: to Arizona shot cal there Um and on the pack 124 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: out with meat, I had my bow in a hand, 125 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: in my hand and I rolled off of, you know, 126 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: a rock and fail on my bow and we were 127 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: just shooting out here today and I wouldn't shoot at 128 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: a deer at fifty. Right now. I can shoot good enough, 129 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: but I need to go do a little work, you know, 130 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: like inside of forty I would feel pretty good. But like, 131 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: and that kind of stuff is gonna change throughout the 132 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: season or even on a hunt. Like, for instance, in 133 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen I drew a really awesome tag for elk 134 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: and that was a nine day hunt you and I 135 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: were on. And at the beginning of that hunt I 136 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: felt really good at seventy, but by day about day 137 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: five or six, you haven't shot your bow much. You've, 138 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: you know, been doing whatever. Had that thing fall off 139 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: a tree or whatever. You know, you know how I am. 140 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: I like to kind of balance my both places like uh, 141 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: you know, you need to be mindful of that kind 142 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: of stuff while you're on a hunting trip, whether it's 143 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: banged around on the truck, it's been on a horse 144 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: and a pack in whatever it might be. Like things 145 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: changed throughout a hunt. So like on day seven of 146 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: a hunt, maybe you range isn't quite what it was 147 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: because you have been practicing it much, or maybe you're 148 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: diligent and you do your practice midday or maybe at 149 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: the time for that. I don't know. It's scenario specific 150 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: and like the ranch buck, which was the year before, 151 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: I had him at forty nine, completely calm, nothing, didn't 152 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: know anything was going on. He was out there like 153 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: in the middle of the open and I'm sitting like 154 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: ten foot up in a tree, so good angles and everything. 155 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,559 Speaker 1: At forty nine. Didn't take the shot and I say 156 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: in that video like, man, I just haven't been shooting. 157 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: It's no, it's late November and I haven't been shooting 158 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: and I just didn't feel comfortable with it, you know. 159 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: So it really is specific and I try to make 160 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: the best decision I can in the moment. Man, that 161 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: was that was one of the biggest bucks, maybe the 162 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: biggest buck I'd ever would have shot at the time. 163 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: It just happens, man. You just gotta you gotta play 164 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: it by a here and make the best decision you can. 165 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: Sometimes you live with it. Mark knows. Marks had his 166 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: ups and downs over the years too, man, and that's 167 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: what it is when you dear hunt a lot, and 168 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: that's one of the things that makes bow hunting out 169 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: siding is that it's not a for sure deal, even 170 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: whenever you pull the trigger you know, whenever you've got uh, 171 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: a rifle or a muzzled or whatever, you know, within 172 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: a close range, it's still not add p crazy things happen. 173 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: But like you and I know we we grew up 174 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: doing a lot of riffle huning. Like it's uh, you know, 175 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: if you gotta deer a hunter yards of the rifle, 176 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: it's dead rights. Usually, you know, with a with a bow, 177 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: especially in the East Texas, white tail twenty yards ain't nothing. 178 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: Songs might be in the next county by the Americans there, 179 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: you know. So it's a it's a it's a cool 180 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: thing and it makes bow hunting super exciting. And today 181 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: on the rout fresh portion of this podcast, we're actually 182 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: gonna talk to some dudes who are really excited about 183 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: things because some exciting things are happening in the woods. 184 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: You've got Brent Purvis from Georgia, we've got Brett joy 185 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: from just Hunt Club in New Hampshire, we've got Jeff 186 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: Danker from buck ventures in Kansas and we've got grant forny, 187 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: the everyday outdoorsman in Maryland, and these dudes have been 188 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: doing some really good hunting a lot of success in 189 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: there's some big bucks going down for like mid September, 190 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: which is I would almost call this like the second lull, 191 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: or the first of the second you know, people talk 192 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: about the October lull, which is controversial in itself. But 193 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: like when the velvets on the deer on summer patterns 194 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: vellow starts coming off, everything goes haywire right like you 195 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: and I have cameras across the country and all of 196 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 1: a sudden we aren't seeing the same bucks. Once the 197 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: velot comes off, everything goes crazy. So be able to 198 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: get on a big buck right now, once the velvet 199 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: is off, is like a pretty tough thing to do, 200 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: but it sounds like these guys haven't figured out and 201 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: I do think that if you listen to kind of 202 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: some of their tactics and some of the things they employed, 203 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: as crazy as they might be, you just might be 204 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: able to get on a big buck yourself. Now we've 205 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: got Brent Purvis from Georgia on here. He's a pastor 206 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: down there and Georgia. Brent. What's been going on? Man? Man, 207 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: it's been fun. I've got a good one. This week 208 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: the deer been running kind of together, as you guys know. 209 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: They've been in velvet. But, Buddy, I just missed it. 210 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: So I just missed a velvet which has been a 211 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: dream of mine. But yeah, I got got some velva 212 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: still hanging off this deer, but got a good one 213 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: the other night. That's cool, man. Yeah, I saw a 214 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: picture of that deer actually on Philip culpepper's story. Apparently 215 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: he'd been, you know, talking to you about it and stuff, 216 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: and that was really awesome, man. And I don't know, 217 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: it's kind of cool to see him just out of 218 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: velvet too, because those antlers look so fresh. They're so sharp, 219 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: you know that haven't been rubbed up too much. Uh. 220 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: So how are you uh kind of patterning these deer 221 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: going into this hunt? So this here, you know, early 222 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: season pattern. Some of my favorite stuff early and then 223 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: you got the road. We've got two different opportunities here. 224 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: But early season. Um, what I did is I kind 225 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 1: of did a scarcity tactic. I usually dumped out a 226 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: lot of corn the first month and but the problem 227 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: is they turned nocternal before opening day here in Georgia 228 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 1: and it's hot. So I did scarcity. I put a 229 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: little bit of corn out and I let it go 230 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: dry for four or five days. A little bit of corn, 231 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: let it go dry. And what happened is that dominant 232 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: buck wanted to come into the fastest and get that 233 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: corn before those other little eight corners and four corners. 234 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: So bottles my tactic and it and it paid off. 235 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: And then I did something a little bit crazy. I 236 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: I got winded on my first hunt and he was up, 237 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: up when. So, I mean I had everything covered, sprayed 238 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 1: down everything. So the next night I've been pouring acorn 239 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: rage in there with my corn. This sounds crazy, but 240 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: I took a bag, trash bag nonsending, poured acorn range there. 241 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: Let it sit for twenty four hour or so when 242 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: I got up there. All the since we're familiar for 243 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: this book, I I guess I've heard uh, during the Rut, 244 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: you gotta be careful of stuff like that. You know 245 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, you gotta be careful. That's right. Don't. 246 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: Don't be using that tactic in November. Yeah, you may 247 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: get more than what you want. I'm telling you, dude, 248 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: it's all right to go into wood smelling like a 249 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: snack in September, man, but you do it November, it's 250 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: gonna be rough. That's right then, so so let's talk 251 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: a little bit about that. You know, you you said 252 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: that the that you got winded. Did it? Do you think? 253 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: You know, one of the things we've been talking with 254 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: some of these guys about this week is the access 255 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: uh that they've used. Is Did did that have to 256 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: do anything with access? And talk a little bit about 257 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: how you were access in this. You know, I had 258 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: good access. I was fortunate enough. We cut trails all 259 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: throughout here, so I would ride my range or right 260 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: down to the spot right even to feed, and I 261 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: only did it at noon. So I stayed away from 262 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: their their hour or that they would feed. But what 263 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: happened is this deer, we actually called him Johnny Ringo off. 264 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: You Remember that movie Tu Song that was remember Johnny Ringo. 265 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: He talked about that he was high strung. After thought 266 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: killed and he said he to poor Solo. It was 267 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: just too high strung. This there is for we've watched 268 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: him for four and a half years. He's a five 269 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: year old deer, or five and a half year old deer, 270 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 1: and he was high strung. So he felt something was off. 271 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: So I feel my access was good. We even moved 272 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: the stand where he comes in, the entry point. He 273 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: would come in and not get around me. That's what 274 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: was amazing about it is that he was fifty yards, 275 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: you know, up wind of me and just felt something 276 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: off that this deer has always been high strung. so 277 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: Um that that was something I think that I talked 278 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: to Philip culpepper, my buddy off hunt club, and I 279 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: was talking to him every evening. He said, man, got 280 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: to change your tactics a little bit up and and 281 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: that's where I started adjusting and adjusting with the corn 282 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: some more, feeding up a little bit more, and then 283 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: I actually came up with a crazy tag to the 284 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: smelling like food and that night I killed him, he 285 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: came within fifteen yards and never smelled. Oh Wow, that's cool, dude. 286 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: So tell me more about that hunt that you were 287 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: able to capitalize on. Yeah, you know, I knew he 288 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 1: had been coming in there a hunting. I gave him 289 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: rest after he busted me, so I said right, this 290 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: was smart deer. I gave him two days rest but 291 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: kept feeding him. Then came back in and the wind 292 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: died down a little bit that night, which was perfect. 293 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: It was cool for Georgia. That's odd donea that that 294 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: is in Texas is high and Um, he got in 295 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: there and to eight pointers came out first and I thought, man, 296 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: that's strange. And they started getting weird. He started doing 297 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: the whole thing when they started, you know, kind of 298 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: kneeling down and backing away, and I knew I had 299 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: him then and he came up fifteen yards from me, 300 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: hung behind a tree for it felt like an eternity. 301 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: He probably wouldn't fine minutes and then he took out 302 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: two couple of steps at twenty yards and I just 303 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: made a bus of perfect hard shop but weird. It 304 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: came out the front of the Um, the front, in 305 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: front of the opposite leg, but it blew his hard 306 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: out and he didn't go to yards down the heell. 307 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: I mean, but choosing a g five and one of 308 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: the g five mega meats and I have never seen 309 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: so much blood. I mean I've shot here six is 310 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: not seen that much blood. Like a door post in Egypt. Man, 311 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, just you ain't kidding. I'M gonna have to 312 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: use that on video this year. Man. Yeah, that's awesome, Dude. Man, 313 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: it just feels so good when they're in tight and 314 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: you know the shot is such a big deal, especially 315 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: on the southern Jumpie deer, you know, like just the 316 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: the Uh, I don't know, the UH, the calmness that 317 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: there is and just knowing it's a shot that you 318 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: for sure can make comfortably. You know, like anything out 319 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: past thirty. I mean I practice in the yard so far, 320 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: you know, but anything out past thirties is you're really 321 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: kind of a I toss up a little bit on 322 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: white tell. You know, when you got them that fifteen 323 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: twenty range, it's like they're they're dead meat, as you 324 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: said with of the yeah. So, and it's so difficult 325 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: too because the other side of that as they can hear, 326 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: this deer is on edge that he could hear that, 327 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: you know, be pulling back that bow and it got 328 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: his attention and I knew how big he was already. 329 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: He should score number three in the county, Muskoga County, 330 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: on boat kills and the history of the county. We're 331 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: kind of a near city limits, but we got like 332 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: thirty acres right outside the city limits. So he should 333 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: score number three. But he was so on edge. I 334 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: had he was so big. I knew he was gonna 335 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: be a record. So I had to not look as 336 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: at his antlers. I've been looking at that. I'm just 337 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: looking at how do I touched this thing in your 338 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: as might as possible, as quick as possible, cause the 339 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: moment I pulled he looked. Man, we don't bust the 340 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: tapes out real often, but it sounds, you know, on 341 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: a really big deer like that, it's definitely something to consider. 342 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: I'm assuming you've measured him already. What did you tape 343 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: out at? He taped out at like one forty two 344 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: and some change. And of course they gotta let a 345 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: sixty day period and go by then to send the 346 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: you know, official measures. But for around here, you know, 347 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: that's not that's not a giant. I've killed one sixties 348 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: in my bow and stuff like that. But in the 349 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: city limits like this, he's gonna hit the record with that. 350 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: Georgia boys like him urban bucks, it seems. Man. It's 351 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: a that's cool, dude. Yeah, yeah, so if you were 352 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 1: to look at the upcoming forecast and just all the different, 353 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: uh you know, uh situations that are going on out 354 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: there in the white tailed woods, what would you rate, 355 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 1: on the scale from one to ten, what you expect 356 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: the deer movement to be like, specifically buck movement in 357 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: the next week and the next week, I would say 358 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 1: there's still in that pattern stage. If if you're feeding up, 359 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: they're still good. It's cooling down here in Georgia, so 360 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: it's kind of getting exciting. Usually it's hotter than this. 361 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: So I'd say the movement probably I'd say a six 362 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: or seven, but you still can patterned these deer right now, 363 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: which is exciting. It hasn't lost that. Y'All know how 364 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: it is the first two to three weeks. You know, 365 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: it's just as exciting as the Rut and here in Georgia, 366 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: southern Georgia, when it dies, it dies off. So you 367 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: you go dead there for, you know, a little while 368 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: before November comes and thanksgiving. Then it kicks back up. 369 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: So right now is the time to be in the woods. Man, 370 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: Awesome Day. Well, that gets me pump for sure, and 371 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna leave and go hunting somewhere here 372 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: pretty soon. But Hey, I appreciate you hopping on with 373 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: this man and giving us the rundown there in Georgia 374 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: and hopefully you'll get some more time in the stand 375 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: this year. Absolutely, man. I look forward to it. Thank 376 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: you all for what Y'all do. We Got Brett joy 377 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: on the phone now. He is from just hunt club 378 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: and he is in New Hampshire. Brett, what's going on? Man? Oh, 379 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: just at work today, waiting on the next col front 380 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: and hopefullsh and good truck CARC picture stuff. Point. That's cool. 381 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: So your day to day is going to work and 382 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: just checking that APP the whole time looking for deer. Well, 383 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: that's what I'm what's ends up happening more. Will tell 384 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: him he gets you need to get some work done too. Well, 385 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: one of the owners of the business. So only have 386 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: myself look at, and that's self. Accountability is tough, man. 387 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: That's cool. Man. So Um here lately. What's U? What's 388 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 1: been the vibe up there in New Hampshire? You know, 389 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: it's a it's a funky time. It always is this 390 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: time of year. You go kind of a you're we're 391 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: in sort of the transition phase from the summer patterns 392 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: to fall patterns. You of deer. They're in velvet, deer 393 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: that are shed velvet Um. Some of that are really 394 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: starting to feel that spike and testosterone. Some of that aren't. 395 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: So it's it's kind of highly variable Um this time 396 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: of year. But we're kind of like I said, in 397 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: that transition phase. We opened the fifteenth of September. So, Um, 398 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting phase. It can be kind of 399 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: feast or famine, if you will. Um, if you're on 400 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: a deer that is kind of in his patterns. So 401 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: or maybe he's he's changed the new pattern. You've figured 402 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: him out. Um, he's gonna be on it for a 403 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: bit and you have a really good opportunity to kill 404 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: him there. I think the general theme is that most 405 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: of these deer are still pretty relaxed, they're still pretty 406 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: daylight active and uh, you know there were they favor 407 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: more to a consistent pattern than other times in the season. Sure. So. 408 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: So what's the weather like and how does it compare 409 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: to normal weather patterns? Um, you know what, had an 410 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: extremely hot summer, but it seems like those cooler, cool 411 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: attempts you just started to move in. We had a 412 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:19,479 Speaker 1: good cold front uh, the last few days, Um, right 413 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: for the opener. Actually they're kind of Thursday, Friday Saturday, 414 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: which the first three days of the season. We had 415 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: a good cold front. Our team killed a buck and 416 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: a bear Um, and it had some good hunts. So yeah, 417 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: that the TUMPS are good. Looking out it did warm 418 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: up a little bit, but we look like we have 419 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: another really good cold front coming in the end of 420 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: the week. So I would say you can't really ask 421 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: for much more than that. Cold Fronts, the two cold 422 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: fronts the first ten day of the season that happened 423 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: to fall on weekends for the guys that can't, you know, 424 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: during the week. So yeah, we should be that's cool. 425 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: So with the hot weather is that? Does that make 426 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 1: water a scarcity or um? Is it? Are you okay there? 427 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like it. You have a lot of 428 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: ponds and we have a lot of lakes, streams. Uh, 429 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: it seems like waters everywhere. Um, I'll be honest, I 430 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: haven't focused a kind of on water in the past, 431 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 1: watering holes are building and anything like that, because I 432 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: just haven't seen much on water whenever on cameras on 433 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: water in the past. So immittally it's been, you know, 434 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: a few years since I've tried, but I just haven't 435 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: seen a huge, huge draw there. I feel you. I'm 436 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: the same way. Man Like water is. Water is tough 437 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: for me. I got a buddy, Tony, who knows a 438 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: lot about that stuff and tries to convince me all 439 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: the time that I need to be hunting on the 440 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: water hole. But it's tough for me, you know, even 441 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: hanging cameras, I don't see super consistency that that makes 442 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: me want to be there, you know. So No, no, 443 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: not to say that in different areas or different situations 444 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: that could be the ticket, but it doesn't seem like 445 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: it quits in our circumstance. What is the ticket right 446 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: now in New Hampshire? Um, I think the ticket is 447 00:21:54,320 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: Um finding. Well, I would say, given you're targeting your 448 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: chure back, which I know not every listeners, you know, 449 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: really focused on that, but we are, is finding one 450 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: of these deer and then trying to hone in on 451 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: exactly is like small pattern, because they're not moving terribly 452 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: far right now. So I think the biggest challenge right 453 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: now is finding one in this kind of the landscape 454 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: we hunting is big timber, lots of mountains, thousands of 455 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: thousands of eight or no eggs, so finding one can 456 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 1: be probably at least half the battle was locating where 457 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: that buck is in this this period of the season 458 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: and then, once you do, trying to get tight to 459 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: where's moving and manage your entry your exit. Um Manage 460 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: your wind and hunt them accordingly. We like to try 461 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: to hunt and focus on cold fronts. That seems like 462 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: that's the trigger that gets these mature deer moving in 463 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: daylight earlier in the season. Um, you know, it's tough 464 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: in the mountains to sit right on top of a 465 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: bed like you may and different, you know, different regions 466 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: of the country. A betting area maybe a thirty or 467 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: forty Acre area on the mountain rather than, you know, 468 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: one or two acres. So it's tough to kind of 469 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 1: calibrate how close you can get to that bed. So 470 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: if you're hunting in a bedding area, you have a 471 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: high probability of potentially bout me that here. So we're 472 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: trying to stay on the edge and what that means 473 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: is we may need a deer move a hundred yards 474 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: and we may need them to move five hundred yards. 475 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: So we're looking for those cold friends to get them 476 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: kind of out of that bedding area. You know, the 477 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: areas that we think are you know that they could 478 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: be in and moving. So that's kind of the ticket. Um. 479 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: As far as food sources, it seems like there's food 480 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: everywhere this time of year. We did have a great 481 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: hunt on a buck coming to a food plot, but 482 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: that's kind of the exception. We don't have many food 483 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: plots and we don't have many bag areas, so that, 484 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: I'd say the number one food source right now is 485 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: red oaks. You have at least an areas. We hunt 486 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: abundance of them. They're everywhere. As long as you have 487 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: some in the area, you're in good shape. I think 488 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: trying to identify like a feed tree is probably pretty 489 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: useless because we have thousands upon thousands of them pretty 490 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: evenly distributed across there is these deer in so if 491 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: you can find, you know, some of them in the 492 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: vicinity of where this buck side, now you're in good shape. 493 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: It's kind of like, okay, well, you know he's he's 494 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 1: in here, there's food. What do you think he's betting? 495 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: And then what we like to focus on is even 496 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: scrapes this time of yere close to it. You know 497 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: where we think is a betting here and food source 498 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,239 Speaker 1: and hunt those scrapes because the most cold fronts hit, 499 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: triggers movement and they kind of hit those scrapes and 500 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: we can be in good buck, in good shape, I 501 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: should say. Man, this does sound like some pretty kilar 502 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: tactics there. If you were to look at the next 503 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: week upcoming, I know you mentioned that cold front is 504 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 1: kind of gonna hit here later in the week. What 505 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: would you product to the buck movement being like? In 506 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 1: a scale of one to team, I would say it's 507 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: probably again to be and we get some really good 508 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: weather coming in. I think it could be an eight 509 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: cos that's an exciting number. Yeah, no, it really is, 510 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: because you know, if if these bucks start to fall 511 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: under these ED fall into an early season pattern, um 512 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: you can get on him. And then we have these 513 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: temperatures which here I'm looking at like at the end 514 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: of this week we have highs in the little fifties. 515 00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: That's below average for sure for this time of year. Um, 516 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: northwest winds, high pressure. Yeah, it could be really good 517 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: if you're in the right spot. If you're not on 518 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: the right spot, you're not on that deer. You'RE NOT 519 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: gonna YOU'RE gonna be crying. But if you you are, 520 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 1: you could be in the money. So that's on the 521 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: spot you could be it could be a could be 522 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: an eight plus. Yeah. Well, maybe, if you put your 523 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: work in and know where one is, it's a good 524 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: time to get in the woods there in New Hampshire. Brett, 525 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: we really appreciate it, man. I hope you have a 526 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: really great season. Thank you too, you guys as well. 527 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: Now we've got Jeff Danker from buck ventures. Jeff has 528 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: been doing some hunting over in Kansas. Jeff, how are 529 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: things going, man, well, we got a big buck in 530 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: the bike and we're heading home. So, Casey, I think 531 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: you're doing pretty good. It sounds sounds pretty skippy man. 532 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: That's cool. So, uh, how'd that go down? Man? You 533 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: were y'all seeing quite a bit of Buck Movement there 534 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: for the Kansas opener. Well, you know, we uh we 535 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: got some farms up there that we've been really babying 536 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: all year and actually for the last three or four years. 537 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: So great farm but um man, weather has really put 538 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: a damper on things and uh, you know, it wasn't 539 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: the regular type punt. We had to kind of adjust 540 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 1: on the fly. So so when you say baby and 541 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: what exactly you mean, well, I just man, I think 542 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 1: more I love shooting big deer, but I think I 543 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: love more than that. It is fixing up farms for 544 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: big deer and just having those you know, whitetail haven 545 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: type stuff. So just babying with food plots and, you know, 546 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: keeping out there, just keeping these deer, these these farms 547 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: just right for deer with water, food, everything that I 548 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 1: can do. Yeah, so you're you're and you're probably pretty 549 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,959 Speaker 1: particular about what what are shot off that at that 550 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: farm right, like it's gotta be a certain age or 551 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: something like that. Man, absolutely, we're shooting definitely age on 552 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: on on what we call special deer. We do shoot 553 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: some four year olds of times that we think aren't 554 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: gonna be much Um, but other than that, yeah, we 555 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: definitely have a strict game player. So y'all Z owned 556 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: in on one of those special deer this past week, 557 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: I'd imagine. Can you tell us little bit about that? Well, so, basically, 558 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: we had, as we at this eight point last year, 559 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: there was probably a hundred forty years deer and he 560 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: was a five year open. Really we kind of had 561 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: him on the list to shoot him and he he 562 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: got by. You know, some of our guys went after 563 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: a different deer or whatever and uh, but he broke early, 564 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,239 Speaker 1: got a fight, broke early, didn't think a lot of it, 565 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: but then he shed early and we're like man, what 566 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: happened to this deer and and all of a sudden 567 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: he comes back this year and he's got a big 568 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: old double main beam and junk going everywhere and just 569 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: turned into a brute Um. And so yeah, my dad 570 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: definitely picked him out and said, yeah, let's go see 571 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: we can kill him, and that's what we've been doing 572 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: this week. Man, that's cool. So you've mentioned the weather 573 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: a little bit earlier. How are the crops there in Kansas? 574 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: Is Is it a good year for crops? And Heaven 575 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: Whitetail Movement to agriculture? Well, so this is my ideal. 576 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: My thoughts on that is we we had a good spring. 577 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: We had some some Ain in the spring and end 578 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: up there. We're at, you know, around medicine lode in 579 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: that area. But then it went into the worst drought 580 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: we've ever seen. So crops, you know, we had some 581 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: good soy beans started and this NASS or deer, we're 582 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: getting some things. But uh now, guys, it's awful. It 583 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,719 Speaker 1: is as bad as I've ever seen it. And and 584 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: again that's got me in a little bit of of 585 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: a whirlwind on on my stuff up there. I mean, basically, 586 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 1: we killed this deer. We we basically targeted water. Everything 587 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: was about water, Um, and and even you know, obviously 588 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: you can bait in Kansas and they're just not one corn. 589 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: It's a real weird deer guys, M man. So that 590 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: does count sound a little bit depressing, tell you the 591 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: truth of matter. I know it's tough sometimes, but it 592 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: makes it kind of fun, as long as the animals 593 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: are in good shape. You know, to to have challenges 594 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: like that come along. As you kind of look forward 595 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: this season, like in the next week or so, as 596 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: we have these openers. Happened across the country. You know, 597 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: Kansas just opened up. What do you predict dear movement 598 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: to be like and what are they going to be 599 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: focusing on? Well, if I was to predict that right now, 600 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: and I mean obviously, I looked at the fifteen day 601 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: forecast every day and Um, you know, I live by guys, 602 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: truly lived by Co Fronts, you know, drops and broometer 603 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: rises and when you get, I don't care if you 604 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: get a steady thirty two degrees, that thirty two degrees, 605 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: that just stays thirty degrees and it's the same day 606 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: every day. It gets hard to kill deer because it's 607 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: just a it's a it's hard to get a change. 608 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: And then you multiply that. When you get just a 609 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: you know obviously we're gonna be a hundred one up 610 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: there on Monday. I mean, when you get that kind 611 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: of stuff going on and it's and that's all it is. 612 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: When you look at fifteen days, it's just hot, hot, 613 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: hot and dry, hot, dry, hot, dry brometer staying the same. 614 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: So as long as that stays it's gonna be tough stuff. 615 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you know you're sneaking in. I mean we 616 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: shot this deer in the morning. Usually this time year 617 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: weren I ain't hunting in the morning. We're, I can 618 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: weigh off the alfile fields and UM, getting these deer 619 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: right where they're fixing to lay down. Um. And so 620 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: again I'm hoping it'll snap out of it. When I 621 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: talked to all the farmers, you know they're looking at 622 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: the farmers farminact. You know they're predicting that it ain't 623 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: gonna rain and it's the first moisture room get up 624 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: in that area. You know, Fifteen, sixteen is Um snow, 625 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: and so you know, you don't know how much take 626 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: into that, but you sure want to listen to these 627 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: wise old farmers. You know, YEP, Yep, they've been there, 628 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: hadn't they? They they're they're all the all year long. 629 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: They kind of know what's going on in those areas. 630 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: You know, typically the farmers are good people for that 631 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: kind of thing. Did Uh now when you, when you 632 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: guys were able to shoot this deer? Was that? was 633 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: that based off of a uh, you know, a changing 634 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: weather pattern? No, it really was, and we just we 635 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: knew what the weather was gonna be. I mean a 636 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: lot of times when we're afterving and Biggins, we we 637 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: see that weather coming up and we leave alone, even alone, 638 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: and we don't hunt, hunt, you know. But I just 639 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: had a feeling that this deer was gonna come to water. 640 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: We had a big water tank out and we had 641 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: I hadn't checked his cameron about three weeks and but 642 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,239 Speaker 1: last time I checked it. We we knew that he 643 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: was there a bunch and we knew that he was 644 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: laying down somewhere under grass there. And Uh, it was 645 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: a great access with a good wind. I mean that 646 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: was the key to this place, is is that? And 647 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: then could just slip in and getting the tree staying 648 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: there and that's what happened. They just we just had 649 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: a hunch and and hunting him again. You know, when 650 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: he hunt over bait or something like that, a lot 651 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: of times you put pressure on him real quick. But 652 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: when you're when you're hunting back and you ain't gotta 653 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: worry about coming into Bait in the morning and that 654 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: kind of stuff, and you're just going to get the 655 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: tree and that know that he probably won't be there 656 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: he's out on Halfi field for a while, you can 657 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: get by with some stuff. And that was just what 658 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: we were hoping and that's what happened, man. So going 659 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: forward for the next week, what are you protecting buck 660 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: movement being like on a scale from one to ten? Well, 661 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: I'm hoping right now bucks are real or staying real close. 662 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: You either got a big buck or you don't. You know, 663 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: you ain't getting a whole lot of new stuff showing 664 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: up yet. So I'm hoping that that'll start. You know, 665 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: we'll start kind of gathering some new bucks. But again, 666 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: with the weather, Um, you know, we're gonna sit here 667 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: on her thumbs a little bit at the House and 668 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: watch this weather and and you know that would I 669 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: if I was telling anyone if they had a big buck, 670 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: you know, be careful, you don't leave him alone and 671 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: let him feel comfortable and tell us time to go 672 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: kill him. And that's that's what we're fiction to do. 673 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: We're not going to get ahead of herself here and 674 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: see if this weather will come and take shape force 675 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: and maybe get a you know, a twenty degree drop somewhere, 676 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: and then we'll pounce. That's great, man. That's good advice. Jeff. 677 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: What's the best way for people to connect with you? 678 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: If they want to see what's going on? Check out 679 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: that big yeah, man, we have we've ramped up our youtube. 680 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: I'd love to tell everybody about our youtube. I mean 681 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: we've just started our youtube last year. You know, I 682 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: still have been done tell this for years, but our Youtube, 683 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: Bill we we you know, cocaine and heads that up 684 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: as a great editor and these acts of the guys 685 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: over my shoulder night e. A the time. so He's 686 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: running that. We're putting some good stuff out live. This 687 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: hunt will be out in just a few days. Um, 688 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: that we just talked about on it. You know, obviously 689 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: you come find me and Buck pincher's on instagram and 690 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: facebook and all that stuff. And we'd love to hear 691 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: from anyone. Awesome, man. Well, thanks for hopping on the 692 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: phone and giving us some advice there, and I'm sure 693 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: we'll talk to you some other time this year. Well, 694 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: Try Outer Casey, I'm sure if I appreciate you guys 695 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: and even thinking about me, and just know that I'm 696 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: here at any time, you aren't gonna Talk. We have 697 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: got grant forney with the everyday outdoorsman. Grant has been 698 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: hunting in Maryland, way up there in the northeast. Grant, 699 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: how are you doing, man? Pretty good. It's, uh, my 700 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: favorite time of the year, hunting season this year, so 701 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: I'm having fun getting my season started here. How about 702 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: you guys? We're doing good. We've been doing other things 703 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: than white tell lately. We've been doing elk and mule 704 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: hear and stuff, but got white telling the brain right now, Dude. 705 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: And you have already done the UN thing do well, 706 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: you've put a nice Maryland buck down and it ain't 707 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: even October yet. Man. How did that go? Yeah, it 708 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 1: was honestly an awesome hunt. I I couldn't believe it either, 709 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: to to put a buck down that early. This is 710 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,720 Speaker 1: the earliest in the year that I've ever been fortunate 711 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 1: enough to take a book. So Um, yeah, it was 712 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 1: a really good, uh, really good early season hunt. Very 713 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: thankful to to kill a pretty good buck this early 714 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: in the season on public there in Maryland. Oh Dude, 715 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: that's awesome. I don't even realize I was on public grounds. 716 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: So this earlier in the year, do you see a 717 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: lot of hunter pressure there on public grounds? Yeah, yeah, 718 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: there's a pretty good amount of pressure, uh, on the 719 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: pieces of public that I hunt, especially opening weekend the 720 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: first two days. The first day of the season was 721 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: last Friday, so lots of guys in the woods Friday 722 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: and Saturday. So usually my strategy for that is, number one, 723 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 1: to try to get away from guys and number two, 724 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 1: to really try to be as close to betting areas 725 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 1: as I can be. H and that's kind of how 726 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: that's kind of how my hunt was on Saturday morning. 727 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 1: It was just a pretty classic example, I would say, 728 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,720 Speaker 1: of a buck coming back off of food, heading back 729 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: to the betting area and uh, I was able to 730 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: catch him, you know, on his way back to bed. Uh. 731 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 1: The other thing I had going for me was just 732 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: a little bit of a cooler morning. It wasn't super cold. 733 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: I wouldn't really necessarily call it a cold front, but 734 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 1: that early in the year, if you can just get 735 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: like a morning that's just cool enough, especially because of 736 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: how hot of a summer we've had. Um, you know 737 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: the deer, the deer gonna be on the feet and uh, 738 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: that's what I had going for me Saturday morning. So 739 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: I got lucky and it worked out for me. Yeah, 740 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: that's that's dude. You put the pieces together and that 741 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,959 Speaker 1: is awesome. I know that some of the other guys 742 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,439 Speaker 1: we've talked to see you to be saying that weather, 743 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 1: it has played a huge part of what they're doing. 744 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 1: Do you foresee that whether being an issue like throughout 745 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: the season here? Is that something that's happening to you 746 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: up there in the northeast? Yeah, yeah, for sure it's. Um, 747 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: it's such a huge part of of the deer movement here, 748 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: as you know, I did, as I'm sure everywhere. But yeah, 749 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: it's a huge factor, I think. Um, you know here 750 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: in the early season, uh, the temperature is just it's 751 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,240 Speaker 1: such a big deal. Of course, for me during Maryland, 752 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: the hunting pressure is also a big deal, but I'm 753 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: looking to get out on those days where the temperature 754 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 1: is uh is lower, you know, relative to uh the 755 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: days before or the days after it. This time of year, 756 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: that's really what I'm looking for. You know, I might 757 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,760 Speaker 1: get a day or two of the week to hunt 758 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna pick the day or two where the 759 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: temperature is is really looking the lowest. Pretty much the strategy. 760 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 1: So are there any like unique challenges or tactics that 761 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: you have for access during the early season that you 762 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: may not use as much during, you know, the Rut 763 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 1: or colder months? Yeah, I mean, nothing really too specific. 764 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: I would just say in general, like I'm very, very 765 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: much in tune and very cautious about my access this 766 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,959 Speaker 1: time of year compared to what it would be during 767 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: the Rut. Uh, in the Rut, you know I'm really 768 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 1: not always careful, because you can just get away with 769 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: a lot more, I would say, but this time of year, 770 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: I mean like slipping in, slipping in there for a 771 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: morning hunt. Really my strategy for access. It's just to 772 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 1: try to to try to stay off of food on 773 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: my way in and then, even more specifically, not do 774 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 1: my best to not put my grounds in uh, on 775 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: the side of the tree where the deer are going 776 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: to be coming in from. Yeah, is that something that 777 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: you do? Is the ground set thing something you think 778 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,840 Speaker 1: about much, or is that like a because you're sweating 779 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: this time of year going in? You're really really worried 780 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: about it? Yeah, yeah, for sure. This time of year, 781 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 1: even more worried about that. With H with the ground 782 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 1: sent Um, I really yeah, because of like long walks 783 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: in the heat, I'm sweating a lot. Uh, I'm really 784 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: not doing a lot for sent control for this style 785 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 1: of hunting this time of year. So, uh, you know, 786 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 1: I'm really paying attention to win direction on my access 787 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: and then and then, like we said, where I'm putting 788 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: my grounds and all my way into the tree. Yeah, man, 789 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 1: that totally makes sense. Whenever it's so hot, ground or 790 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: sink control kind of can be a moot point at 791 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: that at that point. So, Um, you were talking about 792 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 1: food sources quite a bit here. You're referring to agricultural 793 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: food sources or natural food sources. UH, some of both, 794 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: mostly agriculture. Uh. There's some skinning corn that butts up 795 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: to some of the public I hunt right now. That 796 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: you're hitting pretty good. And then, Um, there also is, yeah, 797 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,240 Speaker 1: there also is some natural with the horns and crowds 798 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 1: right now. So, Um, the year that I killed on Saturday, 799 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: where he came from. He was probably actually coming off 800 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 1: the Bait Worns on his way back to bed. So Um, 801 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: you know, definitely some things to think about this time 802 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: of year. Yeah, man, that's awesome. So going forward, as 803 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 1: we look towards like the next week of hunting, you 804 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,280 Speaker 1: know is uh, kind of the years starts to push 805 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 1: on and we swing from kind of the warmer temperatures 806 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: into the fall. What do you expect the buck movement 807 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 1: to be over the next week? I would say over 808 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: the next week it's gonna be. It's gonna be okay. 809 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,439 Speaker 1: I would say, probably not as good as last week 810 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: because of, in my case, the Hind pressure that it 811 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 1: started to take effect on them, that opening weekend pressure, 812 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: but it should be. It should be okay. I think 813 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: if we can uh, you know, it got some cooler evenings, 814 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,359 Speaker 1: which looks like we have some okay temperatures coming up, 815 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: it should be uh, it should be decent. You guys 816 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: want me to to yea, yeah, the ten. Yeah, so 817 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,720 Speaker 1: if you were to, let me just say the question, 818 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 1: if you were to rate it on a scale of 819 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: one to ten. Looking forward. What you think that would be? 820 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: I would say I'll give it a six here for 821 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: this upcoming week versus maybe an eight last week got you. 822 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: So a little lower, but still definitely optimistic looking forward. Uh, 823 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: maybe with, you know, not quite as much pressure in 824 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 1: the woods because people are just not want to get 825 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: out there and hunt in the heat, I would imagine. Right. Yeah, 826 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: I would say, you know, the later part of the 827 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: week will be better as the hunting pressure starts to 828 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: tie off, but right here, early in the week, it 829 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 1: might be a little tougher because of the heavy hunting 830 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 1: pressure that we've seen here opening weeks. But I would 831 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: say optimistic towards the end of next week with the 832 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,360 Speaker 1: hunting pressure starting to die down a little bit and 833 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: slightly cooler attempts coming in. Cool, cool man. So right 834 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: now you were actually headed to go hunt some more. 835 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: You're in a different state and we want to wish 836 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 1: you the best hunt of your eason right now. I 837 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 1: really appreciate you hopping on here to to talk and 838 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 1: kind of hope a little bit before you hit out 839 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 1: to the woods. If people want to see more of 840 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 1: what you got going on, what should they check out? 841 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: They can check out the everyday outdoorsman on Youtube, instagram 842 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:19,959 Speaker 1: and facebook. Awesome Grant. Thanks. Hey, thanks a lot, guys. 843 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: To really appreciate it. Guys, is sounding like a great 844 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 1: week to get out in the woods and chase white tails, 845 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 1: if you have a season open, if you don't, or 846 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 1: if you do, it doesn't matter. Uh, and you're just 847 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,399 Speaker 1: hope about some hunting. Guess what? There is a new 848 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,280 Speaker 1: video on the element Youtube Channel. 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