1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to Move the Sticks DJ and 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: special guests Joel Clapp with you today. Bucks on the 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,239 Speaker 1: move off to training camps and Joel was kind of 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: enough to step in for us today. Joel, how are 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: you doing? But good buddy? How are you doing? Good man? 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: I love getting a chance to visit with you on 8 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 1: the virgin College college season. What have you? What have 9 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: you filled your summer with? Before we get into the football, 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: lots of golf. Um, boys love playing golf. I've got 11 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: three boys ten, eight and five. They've been doing swim 12 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: team junior guards. So there's just like we're either in 13 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: the water or on the golf course. That's just kind 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: of like what what the class family summer is all about. Yeah, 15 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: that's not a sucky summer. I'm I'm in on that. Um, 16 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: all right, let's let's jump in here. We're gonna get 17 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: to to some of these top college guys. I know 18 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna get a chance to see early in the season. Um, 19 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: and by the way, you have no idea what's coming 20 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: your way, So I was gonna just give you a 21 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 1: nice softball question to start us off before we get 22 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: to the college guy. Okay, what the what they tell 23 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: you about Kyler at Oklahoma? Did they say he studied 24 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: it all? Would you get there? Uh? That's a that's 25 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: a good one. You take your little sip. You take 26 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: your little sip thinking I'm gonna give you like a 27 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: Podgrey's softball question, give me Ricky Henderson's story and then no, 28 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: right off the top, I do love listen. I could 29 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: tell minor league baseball stories all day. Um, okay, let me. 30 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: The issue wasn't just talking about Kyler because it was 31 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: coming on the heels of Baker. So everything was a 32 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: comparison because Baker had been so successful over you know what, 33 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: was it, three full years as a starter, wins the 34 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy. Um, I want to say, wasn't his last 35 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: game that epic Rose Bowl over time against Georgia. Um, 36 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: you know, you feel like they probably should have won. 37 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: And now here's this guy and and it seemed like 38 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: he was getting this one year waiver to go play 39 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: football before he was gonna be in the Oakland A's organization. 40 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: So I just want to is so it wasn't a 41 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: foregone conclusion that he was even gonna be a football player, 42 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: And you kind of have to you have to take 43 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: it all in context because that's where the conversations were happening. UM, 44 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: and here was here was the statement. And this is 45 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: not an indictment. It was a comparison. And so what 46 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: I was told about Kyler was this guy is ridiculously talented, 47 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: way more so than what we just had. And Baker, 48 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: he's he's not as intense a competitor as Baker, but 49 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean he wasn't a great competitor. It was 50 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: just that Baker was very unique in his competitiveness, right. 51 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: It was it was the three star kid that would 52 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 1: just never quit until he won. UM. And so there 53 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: was a there was an element of here would beat 54 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: you to the facility every single day, just to say 55 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: he was gonna beat you to the facility every single day, 56 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: and that wasn't Kyler. And so again it was it 57 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: was all a comparison. So I never felt I never 58 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: felt it was a knock. And then immediately when I 59 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: began covering the games, I was blown away by his talent. 60 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: And I'll never forget DJ and I'm sure you're gonna 61 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: remember the exact play I'm talking about as you were 62 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: watching it on film, red River against Texas. It's it's 63 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: it feels, even from the booth, like a nondescript scramble 64 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: away to the left side, and and you're like, oh, 65 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: there's a couple of guys with an angle. So I'm 66 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: getting ready for replays because you can feel it up 67 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: in the booth. You can sense like, Okay, this is 68 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: gonna be like a first down run. I'm asking for 69 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: angles already in the talk back and so on and 70 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: so forth. And I lift my finger off the talk 71 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: back and I was like, oh, he like out ran 72 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: that guy. And I was like, oh, yeah, I ran 73 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: the second guy. And I was like, oh my gosh, 74 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: he went to distance, and UM, I'll never forget that. 75 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,119 Speaker 1: So I know that that's not part of the conversation 76 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: about Tyler, but that's the way that we were talking 77 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: about him. And then mid year it became well, wait, 78 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: Willie played football. What's his football ceiling gonna be? And 79 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: then late in the season it was well, shoot, is 80 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: he gonna be a first round draft pick? Is he 81 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: gonna be a top end first round draft pick? Is 82 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: he gonna be the first pick overall? So UM, I 83 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: think it's it's it's hard to answer that question without 84 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: the context of what was going on at the time. Yeah, 85 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: I mean it's to me, we can't talk about this 86 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: the other day. It's almost more incredible than anything that's 87 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: been accomplished. Like you think about Brady going to ten 88 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: eleven Super Bowls, whatever he's gone to. I don't know 89 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: if that's more impressive or literally not studying a liquor 90 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: tape and being a top ten, twelve issues quarterback in 91 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: the NFL. That's that's that's an incredible accomplishment. I can't. 92 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: I don't. I couldn't call the game without watching minimum 93 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: four hours. I mean, and that's not even playing. Um. Remarkable, 94 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: absolutely remarkable. And I know some of you some are 95 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: viewing this is like a total knock and indictment, and 96 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: it might be to some degree, but it's also just 97 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: like a it's an incredible feat I'm like, how how 98 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: is that? How is that possible? I do know Colt 99 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: McCoy well, and and he talks about just the unrivaled 100 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: athletic ability that this guy has and he's like, he 101 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: was like, listen, I've I've played this game for a long, 102 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: long time, and this dude is a bigger free than 103 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: anybody I've ever played with or ever seen. And he 104 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: was a freshman. Vince Young was taking them to a 105 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: national championship. Yeah, it's it's pretty wild, man. It was 106 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: something I saw that people said they were disappointed that 107 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: it came out, and I'm like, you be disapoint You 108 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: can't be surprised. And everybody has access to these contracts. 109 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: It's coming right. And I feel the partners that they 110 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: won't admit it, but I'm sure they're okay with a 111 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: little bit of public pressure being applied on Kyler. They're 112 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: okay with that. All right, let's jump gears. That's actually 113 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: especially with the size of the deal because they can 114 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: trend their shoulders and be like, hey, hey, dude, like 115 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: you we paid you, Like, by the way, how how 116 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: not that he would do this, But the thought did 117 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: enter my mind, you know, like if you're you're growing 118 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: up when and kind of area growing up, a lot 119 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: of kids mode lawns, you know, to make a little 120 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: extrac cash. You know, there's like a little kid next door. 121 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: And Kyler was like, hey, hey, Jimmy, I just need 122 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: you to log in. I just need you to log 123 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: in everything every night because UM just need you to 124 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: log in. Let that baby run. You can rewind it 125 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of times whatever you feel like. But you know, 126 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: I give you twenty bucks to mobile. I'll tell you what. 127 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: I'll give you a hunter bucks to just watch some 128 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: watch some niner tape. I've got a great story. Are 129 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: you Are you ready for this? When I'm when I'm playing. 130 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: You couldn't take film home. It had to be a DVD. Remember, 131 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: like you had to sit in the facility to to 132 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: get the exos and like the filters and everything. So 133 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: I would sit in the facility. We had We had 134 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: a couple of guys that it was questionable whether they were, 135 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: you know, like watching film with the take home dv DVDs. 136 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: So at the time, what was that show was? It 137 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: wasn't like Bubble Guppies. It was like it was like 138 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: it was the kids show and they would it was 139 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: like it was like they were on acid. I don't 140 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: even you know, it's like the bounding things around. But 141 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: we we put it. We burned the DVD of this 142 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: kid's show called it Bubble I don't even know what 143 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: tell it tubbies. That's exactly what it was while done 144 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: the pop culture. You're all all, you're all in and 145 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: when we and and we labeled it like Oklahoma Cutups, 146 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: you know, that's the next day we come in and 147 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: we just immediately start being like, all right, like when 148 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: we think of the Oklahoma cutups, right, and this guy, 149 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: this guy was like, hey, I think I think we're 150 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: gonna have a problem with with Teddy Layman. That's amazing. 151 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: And we're like, we're good. Yeah, you dug in, you 152 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: dug in there. Huh. We looked at our part. Banner 153 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: was like, and there was, but you didn't watch them, 154 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: you know, And this is that tells. Anyways, it happens everywhere. 155 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: But I I use the example of the guys you're 156 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: around who who eat terrible and uh and don't you know, 157 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,559 Speaker 1: take care of themselves. And then all of a sudden 158 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: you see him like you know, you work out with them, 159 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: or you see them like in a in a gym setting, 160 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: and you're like, holy crap, dude, how do you look 161 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: so shredded? You don't you don't even try? Um. But no, Anyways, 162 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: that the crazy thing is Kyler has got a whole 163 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 1: another level. If he decides he wants to do it, 164 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: he could take it to a whole another level showing 165 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: to the college stuff is and is Texas Alabama. The 166 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: opener is that the second week for you second second week, 167 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: so you have do you have who has? Uh? You 168 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: don't have? Noted in Ohio State, do you who? No? 169 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 1: I wish is that the no, that's gonna be a 170 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 1: that's at Ohio State. So that's an ESPN. So the 171 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: way that like our our deal currently work is that 172 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: like we have the first pick overall, and we always 173 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 1: take Ohio State Michigan. That's always just kind of like 174 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: the top game. And then they have the second pick 175 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: overall and in the draft for the year, and they 176 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: took the Notre Dame Ohouse State. Okay, yeah, but so 177 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: you've got what you got for the opener then before 178 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: you get to that. So we're gonna go to Purdue 179 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 1: and and and do the Penn State Perdue game on 180 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: the Thursday night of that opening week, which I think 181 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: is actually a really interesting game and and produce actually 182 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: a little better than people think. I liked their quarterback, 183 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: by the way, and I think NFL guys are gonna 184 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: like their quarterback a lot. What year is the draft eligible. 185 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: I haven't looked at them all. Yeah, he is, Okay, 186 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: put a put a put pan, I'll put a pen. 187 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: I'll put a pen in that one. Let's get the 188 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: week through. Then I have fun at Perot. I'd rather 189 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 1: I'd rather talk ab up Bama in Texas. Uh, you 190 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: want You've been to both places here. I believe since 191 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: the season ended. I know we'll get the Bam in 192 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,719 Speaker 1: a second. What is the what is the atmosphere in 193 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: the environment, Like, I know they didn't win much last year, 194 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: but it seems like there was some excitement with Stark. 195 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: There a lot of excitement and a lot of belief, 196 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: even coming off of what was their worst losing streaks 197 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: since I want to say, like the fifties or sixties, 198 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: because remember they started off game Bucks, game busters, and 199 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: and then after UM losing to Oklahoma, they just kind 200 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: of fell off the cliff. I thought that they really 201 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 1: struggled defensively and they need to fix that. And some 202 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 1: of that was personnel driven, some of that was schematically driven, 203 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: but they obviously need to fix that. UM they're really 204 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: talented on offense, really talented on offense, regardless of who 205 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: plays quarterback. I think that you know, Hudson card Quinn Yours. 206 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: I don't know who it's gonna be. I was there 207 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: for a spring practice. I thought that they both played well. 208 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: They're both really talented guys. I I sense that Hudson 209 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: may have been scarred last year and so he may 210 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: have a little of that scar tissue allah a David 211 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: Carr early in the Houston Texans career where he just 212 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: kind of feels the rush too much because they weren't 213 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: great protecting the quarterback last year. So I don't know 214 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: this to be a fact. I think that Quinn Yours 215 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: is gonna start. There's just so much hype there. He's 216 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: a really talented guy. The guy that's the best player, 217 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,599 Speaker 1: and even in that game we'll be in, one of 218 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:35,359 Speaker 1: the top is the running back Jean Robinson. He's he's phenomenal. 219 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: I think he's the best back in the country and 220 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: and he's gonna have his work cut out form because 221 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: Bama is as good as anybody on defense, and I 222 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: think they're defense pass rush as good as we've seen 223 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: in a long time. So I think Texas could struggle 224 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: a little bit in that game because Bama is just 225 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: on a different level this year. Yeah. I I did 226 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: the end over the summer, and he's a freak show. 227 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: And the other kid on the other side, fifteen, is 228 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,599 Speaker 1: a big time player. I did the safety thinking he 229 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: was coming out last year and he's a stud. He's 230 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: gonna be a first round pick. Um, So you start 231 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: with that nucleus and they've got speeded linebacker, They've got 232 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: some size at corner, right. I kind of laughed because 233 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: I you know, we always make these grandiose statements every 234 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: year at the draft. It was like this Georgia defense, 235 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: which was the best that I've seen in terms of 236 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: the depth and the talent. And I'm like, we'll never 237 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: see a defense like that ever again. And I started 238 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: looking at some Alabama Dave was like, maybe maybe Alabama 239 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: this year. Well it happened. Remember a couple of years ago, 240 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: it was like, this is the best offense, the l 241 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: s U. Joe Burrow offense is the best offense we've 242 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: ever said. The next year, the Mac Brown Yeah, the 243 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: Mac mac Jones Alabama offense. Maybe it was better. Yeah 244 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: that's crazy. Um, all right, get over to to Alabama. 245 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 1: I know you've got a chance to see him. I 246 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: mentioned on the Podcast of the Day I love Bryce 247 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: Young's game, and I know the knock is going to 248 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: be the size in the you know, just the frame 249 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: that he has. But if you if you can divorce 250 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: yourself from any concerns about size, Joe, what's wrong with 251 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: that kid? Now? Nothing apart from that, that's that's that's 252 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: the only red flag. I love his game and in 253 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: and in fact, um, I think you know how there 254 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 1: are some guys that they they they view differently in 255 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: person than they do on tape. Like you get a 256 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: sense for like how good he is in terms of 257 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: timing and feel watching him on tape, and you can 258 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: kind of sense that, But when you're actually sitting there 259 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: on the sidelines watching the routes develop and and sensing 260 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,599 Speaker 1: when he's releasing the ball, you know, his anticipation is 261 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: as good as I've seen at the college level a 262 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: long time. And I know that this was just a practice, 263 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: but the thing that struck me is that you just 264 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: don't see him because of his size, and then all 265 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,719 Speaker 1: of a sudden, the ball is just like it's just 266 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: out and you're like, how how is he? And he's 267 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: making these throws that are in tight, small windows, way 268 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: outside of the numbers down the field intermediate. It's really 269 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: rare to see that from a guy that size. Normally, 270 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,599 Speaker 1: you know to to to see a guy have that 271 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: control of the field in every area. You see a 272 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 1: guy back there that has has big stature and just 273 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: an absolute cannon for an arm um. Bryce Young's ability 274 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: to anticipate, the ability to throw from every platform, and 275 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: the ability to be accurate from every angle, I think 276 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: it's something that's really rare, And I was more impressed 277 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: with him once I got to see him in person 278 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: than even when I watched him on tape. Yeah, I 279 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 1: use the comp you know, because you're trying to find 280 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: guys with similar size and there's just not many guys 281 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: in that world. So I kind of came with the 282 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: Drew Brees just in terms of being the point guard, 283 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: being the distributor. But if I'm being honest and I 284 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: don't pay attention to the height, just the the instincts 285 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: to feel the ability to change arm angles whenever you want. 286 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: You talked about the anticipation, the timing. I think he's 287 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: got a live arm I haven't seen it, you know, 288 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: in person. I know you have. He's like, he's like 289 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: if you left Aaron Rodgers and the dryer for too long. 290 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: It's kind of what it's uh, it's kind of what 291 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: it reminds me. Oh man, you hate when you get 292 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: a great like hoodie and you leave it in the 293 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: dry Yeah, right here, and that's exactly right. Yeah, I mean, 294 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: but he does know, Eric just catch the ball and 295 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: just flipped. There's just guys are natural throwers. Like they 296 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: looks like he's been throwing. And I know Aaron obviously, 297 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: you know, changed his motion once he got to the league, 298 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: but he went from being maybe a little more robotic 299 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: under Tedford in college to being probably the most loose, fluid, 300 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: smooth thrower that we have in the league. And this 301 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: kid is like that. I mean, he's just very natural, 302 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: very smooth. I don't know if I can't remember at 303 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: least any quarterback that has changed his mechanics and the 304 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: way he actually moves and throws the football more than 305 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers from what he was at cowed what he 306 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: is now. Um, but but yeah, I think that's I 307 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: think that that's that's very accurate in terms of like 308 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: the way that the ball can come out with velocity 309 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: pace RPN, and I'm talking about like windows that are 310 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: not just like, oh boy, that's a good throw along 311 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: the sideline. It's it's perfectly placed on the vertical scale, 312 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: you know. It's like, if it needed to be up 313 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: high on the sideline, it's up high. If it needed 314 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: to be at the waist, it's at the waist. So um, 315 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: A lot of people are gonna grumble though when they 316 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: see him, when they meet him for the first time, 317 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: when they slight he is, and he's not like Kyler 318 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: is short, but he's like a rock, you know, and 319 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: Bryce is not that way. He's got he's got skinny joints, 320 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: he's he's small man. He's a good player. Yeah, that's 321 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: gonna be It's gonna be a challenging evaluation just for 322 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: that reason. But the play itself is pretty outstanding. Another 323 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: quarterback Ohio State. You'll see them a bunch, as you 324 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: do every year. C J. Stroud. Um, I won't spoil 325 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: you with my opinion. What you think. I think CJS 326 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: is is probably because of Bryce's stature. He at this point, 327 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: I would bet on him to be the first pick 328 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: because someone's gonna fall in love with him, and rightly. 329 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: So um, I think that there there are things that 330 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: I saw early last year that I didn't love. He 331 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: would miss high a lot um, you know, he held 332 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: onto the ball a little bit too much. But then 333 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: what I saw from him, and this is what I loved, 334 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 1: is that those things that were weaknesses early in the season, 335 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: like a a loss against Oregon, they became strengths later, 336 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: Like he clearly went to the grindstone and worked at 337 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,239 Speaker 1: the things that he was struggling with. And that's one 338 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: of the things that Ryan is so good at is 339 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 1: is addressing and and really attacking a player's weaknesses at 340 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: that position. And then late in the season he was 341 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: as good as anybody I had him. Against Nebraska, he 342 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: was phenomenal. Um, you know, even against Michigan and that 343 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: really good Michigan. He did not play poorly against Michigan. Uh, 344 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: the Michigan just beat him up and ran the football 345 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: down their throat and kind of squeezed in that ball 346 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: game in order to win. So I really like Bryce. 347 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: I think that the best part about his game, I 348 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 1: think is his ability to attack down the field. He 349 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: throws a beautiful deep ball at least in my estimation, 350 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: and he understands the timing low or or feel wind 351 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: down the field in order to let loose down the field. 352 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: So he anticipates those winds and he gets the ball down. 353 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: That you see a lot of times is twenty yards 354 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: twenty five yards down the field. Guys are catching the 355 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: ball in stride. So the ability to get an explosive 356 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: completion is great, but really explosive completion, which is getting 357 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: the ball caught and then after the catch, getting that 358 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: I think that that's one of the things that he's 359 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: best at. Now I want to hear yours. Yeah, I'm 360 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: gonna pull up kind of some of the stuff that 361 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: I wrote because we we echoed some thoughts here, so 362 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: where we're in agreement. Um Uh, he's at his best 363 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: pushing the ball down the field. He has a deaf 364 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,439 Speaker 1: feel on fades over the top and over the top throws. 365 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: He can change trajectory when needed, always puts the ball 366 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: right outside show where it needs to be. UM impressed 367 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: with the decision making and the poison key downs and 368 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: under pressure he'll take a sack instead of trying to 369 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: play hero ball. I love the grit and toughness in 370 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl. Um. Some of the stuff that you 371 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: know that that was all the positive stuff. Some of 372 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: the stuff that I wasn't as fired up about. He's not. 373 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: I mean, he's not an elite athlete. He doesn't know 374 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: I didn't, And I don't think he played with a 375 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: lot of creativity. I thought he's more he's an on 376 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 1: schedule on you know, off the paper onto the field 377 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: and execute it beautifully. He's which is a good which 378 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: is a good thing. But there's also in this in 379 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: this era of quarterbacks. You know, some of that I 380 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: don't think he's really twitched up is when I'm getting 381 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: at like in terms of sudden to get away from 382 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: guys and do things like that. He is a pocket guy, 383 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: you know, and he can shred it. You know, he 384 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 1: can sit in there and he understands the game. One 385 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: thing that I think that should be talked about when 386 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: talking about Stroud is and and Bryce has this as well. 387 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: It's just the quality of the wide receiver corps around 388 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: him and and and in Ohio State. When you talk 389 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 1: about the wide receivers, then you have to start talking 390 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: about Brian Heartline, their coach, and Brian Hartline and I 391 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: saw I think I've retweeted it. I think when he 392 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: was talking to you and Bucky just about his philosophy 393 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: and coaching style. He's the best wide receiver coach in 394 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: the country. I was just with Jackson Smith and Jig 395 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: Butt in Indianapolis this last week and I was talking 396 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: with him about Brian Heartline and and what are the 397 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: things that make your room so special? And he says, 398 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: he says, well, one, you've got to play great on 399 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: like Tuesday, because there's five absolute monsters in that room 400 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: right like. And so it doesn't matter what day you're 401 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: going out there, if it's routes on are, you've got 402 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: to play great. And then and then the other part 403 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: of that is that Brian Heartline is the most detailed 404 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: coach in America. And so one of the things that 405 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: c J has the benefit of is he has the 406 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: benefit of throwing two really talented players who are giving 407 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: him things like space on the outside to throw the 408 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: deep ball right like and and how many times do 409 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: we see remember breaking down Josh Allen when when he 410 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: was at Wyoming and his wide receivers are just like 411 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: running right on the sideline and it's like, well, there's 412 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: nowhere to throw the ball down down the sideline. Whereas 413 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: an Ohio State, those deep routes and the nu once 414 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: that the wide receiver court gives their quarterback is really special. 415 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: All right, here's my comp And this is where people 416 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,959 Speaker 1: freaked out, because they always freak out when you give 417 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: a comp and I keep in mind there's no perfect comps. 418 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: But hear me out here, I said, I thought there's 419 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: a lot of similarities in college to Mac Jones. Both 420 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: guys see the field really well. They play, they make 421 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: good decisions, they take what the defense gives them. They 422 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: protect the ball, they know how to manage the game. 423 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: I don't think either guy has huge arm strength or athleticism, 424 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: but they both have excellent touch on the deep ball. Um. 425 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: You know, Joan surprised a lot of evaluators with his 426 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: early success. I could see Stroud, you know, doing the same. 427 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: You would have thought I compared him to the worst 428 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: quarterback in NFL history, the way that Buckeye fans took 429 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 1: offense to the comparison to Mac Jones, who, by the way, 430 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: was the best of all the rookie quarterbacks last year. Well, 431 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: and by the way, I mean he might he he's 432 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: gonna be a top ten quarterback in the league, maybe 433 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: this year, and then maybe you know that that continues 434 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: along the way, Um, I don't hate that comparison. I'm 435 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: really bad at comparisons. You and I have talked about this. 436 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: Everyone's like, who does he compared to him? Always like, 437 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, Um, you know he he reminds me 438 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: a little bit of a and and you know, God 439 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: rest his soul, but a more a more decisive and 440 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: accurate Dwayne Haskins in a sense, you know, like it. 441 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: It feels like guys their pocket guys, and they can 442 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: distribute the ball really well. And he's he's just a 443 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 1: bit better at the schematics of the game, the anticipation 444 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: of downfield windows, the accuracy with which he throws. But 445 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: they have this similar, very beautiful ability to throw the 446 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: ball and it's not overpowering, but it just comes out. 447 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: And you know, they understand trajectory. And that's the other 448 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: thing that I think c J does and by the way, 449 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: Bryce Young does. I'm a big believer in pitch selection. 450 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: You've got to know you know how to layer a ball, 451 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: when to take a little off, when to really drive it. 452 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 1: And both of those guys understand their pitch selection really well. Yep. 453 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: And I use kind of that same philosophy. The only 454 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: thing I would say is and I think people there's 455 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: some nuance involved in this which people can't you know, 456 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: they can't navigate that on Twitter for sure, but they 457 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: they will say, you know, I said, I don't think 458 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: he has a huge arm, And really look at this 459 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: deep ball against this team, this deep ball against that team, 460 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, no, no, you can throw a nice, 461 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: pretty deep ball that There's a difference in a deep 462 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: ball and a drive throw. It's driving a comeback outside 463 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: versus laying up a post or of fade over the top. 464 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: Those are totally different skills. Where whereas I thought he 465 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: was exceptional layering the ball, laying the ball up, but 466 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: in terms of powering the ball like we see some 467 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: of these big time young qbs we have in the NFL, 468 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: I didn't see that version of him well. And and people, 469 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: I think misconstrue arm strength with down the field throws. 470 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 1: Those are touch throws. Down the field throws are touch throws. 471 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: And arm strength which is opposite hash outside the numbers. 472 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: Can you throw it in a tight window opposite hash 473 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: outside the numbers? And and further than ten or fifteen 474 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: yards down the field, that's when go stand on a 475 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: football field and like just look out there and you're like, 476 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you know, and then it's like, okay, drive, 477 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,959 Speaker 1: drive the football and a little tight window out there 478 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 1: that's arm strength. Yeah, yeah, And I think that it's 479 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: kind of tough for some people to kind of be 480 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: able to tell the difference between those those two things. 481 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: The other thing with macau is I was, you know, 482 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: you mentioned who mac through too and who c J 483 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: throws too. We talked about this on the pod the 484 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: other day, which was I think, you know, people want 485 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: to punish these guys were playing with great players, and 486 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: we've seen a lot of these quarterbacks. The Borrow is 487 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: another one who came out and people tried to pooh 488 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 1: pooh his success because of all the talent around him. 489 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: I say, leave that alone. But let's, you know, give 490 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: a little let's give a little leniency to the Josh 491 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: Allens of the world who necessarily didn't necessarily have those 492 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: big time dudes around that maybe you can bring those 493 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: guys up. We need to pull the other guys down 494 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 1: for who you're playing with, because darn they're every top 495 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: quarterback in the country is going to go someplace where 496 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: they have better guys Zack Wilson had better guys and 497 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 1: everybody played against the b y U. It's true. And 498 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: also you hear me just say this all the time. 499 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: You probably roll your eyes regardless of who you're throwing too. 500 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: You can be thrown to a guy that's running four 501 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: eight or four too. Is the ball on time and 502 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: on target? Yeah? You know, like to a certain extent, 503 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: And I know that there's a lot of layers to 504 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,239 Speaker 1: quarterback play, but when you really break it down, at 505 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: least met is the ball on time and on target? Right, Like, 506 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: that's how you succeed making first downs and scoring touchdowns. 507 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna give you. Let's go last thing here. 508 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: Then I'll let you run. You've been very kind with 509 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: your time. I'm good man, I'm I got some dark horse. 510 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I've got I've got my guy right now. 511 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 1: I've got him down, and I actually feel pretty confident 512 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: this guy is going to win the Heisman Trophy. And nobody, 513 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: nobody's talking about him, talking about his teammates plural, but 514 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: they're not talking about him winning the Heisman. But I'll 515 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: let you give me. Let's go. You go one for 516 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: one here? Who do you have is your is your Heisman? 517 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: Do you want do you want to go really off 518 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: the rail? I want to know who's who's going to win? 519 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: If you you get the first pick, who's going to 520 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: win the Heisman? The favorite never wins, favorite member wins. Um. 521 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go with c J. Stroud, Okay, because 522 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: it's some extra pancakes at Ohio State when you go 523 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: there a game. Um, you know me. Well, but the 524 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: reason everyone's gonna be looking for reasons to attack, Um, 525 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: you know, why should we not give him the Heisman 526 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: for a second straight year? So that's gonna lend itself 527 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: to c J. Stroud. So I think that that's a 528 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: really good one. All right, you go, all right, So 529 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna talk about the Heisman favorites, and they're gonna 530 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: talk about your guy, c J. Stroud. They're gonna talk 531 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: about Bryce Young. They're gonna talk about Bryce Young's teammate, 532 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: Will Anderson is probably best player in college football. I 533 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: believe he isn't been playing in college now. They're neither 534 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: one of those guys are winning it. Somebody else on 535 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: that team is gonna win it. Jamir Gibbs is gonna 536 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: win the Heisman Trophy. This that's a good one, that tape. 537 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: I was doing other guys last year do it watching 538 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: the defensive guys for the draft, and I swear every 539 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,920 Speaker 1: time I watched him against Georgia Tech, I was like, 540 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: who the heck is this running back? He is unbelievable. 541 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: He's got juice, he can catch the ball, he's got 542 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: some wiggle, and I'm like, now he's gonna go play 543 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 1: behind Alabama where they where they're gonna actually create lanes 544 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: for him. He's gonna have all the types of room. 545 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: This kid's gonna rush for a zillion yards at Alabama 546 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: and he's gonna win the like that. I like that 547 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: a lot um. I think that that could be a 548 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: really good one. I think that the only issue that 549 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: I would have there is that he's gonna be so 550 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: overshadowed by bryceon Will you know, like, are we really 551 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: gonna vote for the Alabama running back over Will Anderson 552 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: when at Will Anderson has seventeen and a half sacks 553 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: um so, But I mean I like that guy a lot. Okay, 554 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: how about off the radar. Here's an off the radar 555 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: one and this is where now I just got served 556 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 1: the pancakes by Ohio State fans. Now they're going to 557 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: shove them in my face. Donovan Edwards, the running back 558 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: at Michigan, uh, the young, young running back at Michigan. 559 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: I think, and you're gonna agree with this here as 560 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: you see him in the next few years. In two years, 561 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: I think he's going to be the most NFL already 562 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: running back in college football because he does as a 563 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: young player everything. He's one of these versatile guys that 564 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: can catch it, he can run it, he can do 565 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: he can do everything, and he's really talented. Um. I 566 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: like Donovan Edwards from Michigan as just like a really 567 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: off the radar dark horse type candidate. Alright, we're really 568 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: going heavy running backs here, which I love. You know, 569 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: he always assumed, all right, I'm gonna go my my 570 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: next one here. Will Shipley, running back from Clemson. He's 571 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: another guy when you're when you're watching other guys, you 572 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: kind of noticed him a little bit. And then when 573 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: you talk to the buddies around the league and they're like, dude, 574 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: have you looked at this Just White running back from Clemson. 575 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: Like it's like Christian looks like Christian McCaffrey. Up there. 576 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: It looks like Christian McCaffrey. That's exactly right. Um, that's it. 577 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: I like that one a lot. And by the way 578 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: I'm running, I've got a bunch of running backs as well. 579 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: Jared Bruce Hart the transferred to Michigan State, but the 580 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: way that they play that he transferred from Colorado. He 581 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: was a Pack twelve Offensive Player of the Year two 582 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: years ago. Now he's with Michigan State. That could be interesting. 583 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: And how about this a little cues love Sean Tucker 584 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: four hundred yards six yards and carry last year. Shawn 585 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: Tucker is an interesting player. I think he's a really 586 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: good back for the for the Orange. Alright, last one, 587 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: and I'll go back to the quarterbacks and to This 588 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: isn't really a sleeper, but just because I don't think 589 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: the Pac twelve is all that great, and I know 590 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: people have expectations and they think that SC's defense is 591 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: gonna stink, and they might stink, but they're gonna score 592 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: points and they're gonna throw for a zillion yards. I 593 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: think Caleb Williams will have a huge year against that competition. 594 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: I totally agree with you. I don't think that it's 595 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: out of the question. That USC um is is plumb Utah, 596 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: and the winner of that game is setting themselves up 597 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: to be not only uh representative in the PAC twelve 598 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: Championship game, but to potentially go to the playoff. Like 599 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: when you look at usc schedule, they can they can 600 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: win a lot of those games. Uh, They've got really 601 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 1: good talent and Lincoln Riley's a hack of a coach. 602 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: Let's just put it this way. They will be in 603 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: the top ten this year. At some point. They might 604 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: even start there. They will play themselves into the top 605 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: ten at some point. I will say this though about 606 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: Caleb Books. I saw him twice late last season, all right, 607 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: and this is after everybody had like annointed him, and 608 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: it was like the Heisman was basically on his shelf 609 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: after that Texas game, which was annoying, by the way, 610 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: there was a lot of that out there was like okay, 611 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: like pump the brakes. It's just a little bit. He 612 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: was not great against Iowa State and against Baylor man 613 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: held all way too long, and that was something that 614 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: he needs to correct moving into this year. Yeah, I 615 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: just don't know how many Iowa State or Baylor level 616 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: defenses he's gonna have to play. You know, he'll see 617 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: one and noted. I think secretly, Lincoln Riley may have 618 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: left the Big twelve just to get away from David Randa. 619 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: He's like, I'm done with that guy. Oh because that 620 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: was l s u lu Yes exactly. So it's like 621 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: every time he saw David Randa, their offense just was like, yeah, 622 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: that's amazing. Um, all right, that was fun. Man. I'm 623 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: looking through my phone here. Everybody's out going to uh 624 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: going to training camps here, So here's I don't know 625 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: if you're this is like the football nerd that I am. 626 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: I just text all my g M buddies and I'm 627 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: like me some practice clips. I need to give me that, 628 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: like the play of the day, give me the player 629 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: to day. Let's see something's great. College camp hasn't really 630 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: opened until like next week, so that's when I'm gonna 631 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: I'll be getting on the horn. I'm seeing these guys 632 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: at their media days right now, and it's just like 633 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: you look at them and they're just like this sucks. 634 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: Media days. Hey, how do you think you guys are 635 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: gonna be this year? Well, you know, we had a 636 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: good offseason, good leadership on our team, you know, really 637 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: good offseason. I just I just love the leadership of 638 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: our team. Um, you know, when you look at you know, 639 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: big big picture goals for this group, you know, what 640 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,959 Speaker 1: are you what are your goals for this team this year? Well, 641 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: we start oft off every year, you know, with the 642 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: same three goals. We don't develop team chemistry and then 643 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: win the conference and you know, if we feel like 644 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: if we win the conference, then all the other goals 645 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: they'll take care of themselves. We just did it. We 646 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: just did every single preseason press conference for every coach 647 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: asked that asked that question back to me real quick, 648 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: but what are your goals big picture for your team? Yeah? 649 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: I appreciate the question, but you know we're our eyes 650 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: are on James Madison. You know, we've got Jams Jam 651 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: you week one and the the Duke's they've got They've 652 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: got guys. I mean, they've got legit players, and if 653 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: our focus is not on them, then we're not where 654 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: we need to be. So we'll let that other stuff 655 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: take care of itself. But right now, we're just focused 656 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: on being one to know. That was that was really 657 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: good hitting me with the one to know. I mean, 658 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: that's that's the next level right there. Yeah. Yeah, my 659 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: buddy Joey. By the way, have you seen the video 660 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: I think I retweeted it of of him doing the 661 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: training camp the first day of training camp. Uh questions. Oh, 662 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: it's amazing, it's amazing. It's every cliche and it's like 663 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: literally you can close your eyes and you're like, yep, 664 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: that's what it is. Yeah, that's exactly, and you always fantastic. 665 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: He did a few, Uh Gus Johnson's last year. Yeah, 666 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: I sent I sent them to Gus. By the way, 667 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: Gus is not on Twitter, and I sent him and 668 00:33:55,200 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, like flattering question market he's he 669 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: says back, and big like you know, so he loved it. 670 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: I think I've told this on here before. My one 671 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 1: guest story with you is at Oklahoma. I don't remember 672 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:11,919 Speaker 1: who they were playing, but I was there to see 673 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 1: Baker Gosh. I don't remember who they were playing that day, 674 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: maybe West Virginia, I think. Anyway, So we go up there, 675 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: I like, I guess ahead of Joel up in the booth. 676 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: We are two hours before kick like you guys are 677 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: nowhere near having to go on the air. So I 678 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: sit there. It's you know, five minutes with Joel and 679 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 1: we're just kind of chit chatting and then uh, you 680 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: got your partner standing right next to you. And then 681 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: so after you know, about five minutes, Gus just staring 682 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: at me like this, and I go all right, Joel, Well, hey, 683 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: good luck man, have a good call. See you guys later. 684 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 1: I think Gus has let me know that it's my 685 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: time to exit the booth. Oh hey, listen, man, Sometimes 686 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: you know, he just wants his face. You never know, 687 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: you never know. We'll make any of his any of 688 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: his water. Nothing I promised, but he was ready to move. 689 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: He's got an aura so like you might have just 690 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 1: like encroached on his aura. It's like it's like a 691 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: Rick James globe, you know. And listen, man, that guy is. 692 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: He is electric on game days. He's so good at 693 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: his job. And I know people at home tell me 694 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 1: all the time, like man, I did, like right when 695 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: I hear his voice, I just love it and I'm like, 696 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: feel big. I feel. I'm sitting there and you know, 697 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: you you have nerves and butterflies just you you're about 698 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: to do a game. It's usually a big game and 699 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: it's quiet, you know how television is and it's just 700 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: the producer and it's like, you know, all right on 701 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: the air in five four and then the music play. 702 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: And it's not the music that gets my my goose 703 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: bumps going, it's when he he was like, welcome to 704 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 1: Big Nude Saturday. And I'm just like, I start to 705 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: just like Tingle and I'm saying and then we get 706 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,240 Speaker 1: the fiss bump. I'm like, I'm as excited as anybody 707 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: sitting there. Well, it's funny. You have fun in the booth, 708 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 1: and we have fun watch each and every week you 709 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: get big games, and I'm looking forward to college football 710 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: season kicking off once again. Joel. Can't thank you enough, Buddy, 711 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: you are the big batman. Get back and let's let's 712 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: do it again. Let's do it again sometime. We gotta 713 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: keep up with college football here as we inch closer 714 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: to another draft. Oh gosh, don't say that. We've got 715 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 1: ways to go. Start worrying about that. Alright, alright, I mean, thanks, buddy. 716 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: There is a great Joe Clatt. We'll see you next time. 717 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: Right here on moved the sticks