WEBVTT - Second Date Update PODCAST: Ultimate Frisbee Dad

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<v Speaker 1>Today's Second Date Update powered by South hilm Off Rooking

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<v Speaker 1>Jewels Second Dat up Date. The woman on the phone

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<v Speaker 1>for a Second Date Update today and myself have something

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<v Speaker 1>in common. Both big fans of Ultimate Frisbee. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>Ultimate Frisbee. Well, I've only played once. How does that

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<v Speaker 1>make you a fan? And I think her experience with

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<v Speaker 1>Ultimate Frisbee was better than mine. All I got out

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<v Speaker 1>of it was a bunch of people at a park

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<v Speaker 1>calling me a maniac and a lunatic. Why sadistic freak

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<v Speaker 1>whatever that means. I didn't know you weren't supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>take a baseball bat to play Ultimate Frisbee. I had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea, But then I get labeled all kinds of names.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jesse actually got a date out of playing Ultimate Frisbee,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't think had a restraining order slapped on

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<v Speaker 1>her either. That I'm wrong, Jesse, Am I wrong? No,

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<v Speaker 1>you did bring it back to the game or an

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<v Speaker 1>axe or anything like that. Done. No, I wish somebody

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<v Speaker 1>would have told me beforehand. But your email said that

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<v Speaker 1>you met the guy you want to call today playing

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<v Speaker 1>Ultimate Frisbee. Yeah. I'm kind of a spontaneous person and

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<v Speaker 1>I like trying out these things, and I was online

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<v Speaker 1>and I saw this gaming thing, so I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't do that. I've never played before. Was it

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<v Speaker 1>a singles like meet up type thing? No, not necessarily.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just sort of like young people. So how

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<v Speaker 1>was it when you went out there and played? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you find out you were amazing and ultimate frisbee and

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<v Speaker 1>had no idea? No, I'm actually really bad apparently, but

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<v Speaker 1>there was this one guy who was really good, like

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<v Speaker 1>probably had been playing with that gup people for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, and I know that's what really turns ladies

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<v Speaker 1>on as a guy who can handle a frisbee. It's

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<v Speaker 1>actually it's not too far from a line really, So

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<v Speaker 1>it was actually really nice because you know, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to have a certain grace, you know. Yeah, any athletic

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<v Speaker 1>man on a field that is good is sexy. Okay, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it was really sexy. So I was trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>his attention a little bit. And so during a break,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like standing by him, and he like offered

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<v Speaker 1>me some of his gatorade. He was like, you're it

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<v Speaker 1>looked like you could use some of this. Offered you

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<v Speaker 1>some gatorade? Huh? Yeah, he offered me some blue you know,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, though, I mean if you're sharing out

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<v Speaker 1>of the same bottle, that means he doesn't think you're gross, right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I was excited because I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so breaking the ice, sharing gatorade? You already like you

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<v Speaker 1>guys kissed, yeah, right, next step swap it spit. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. He was just like super straightforward and

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<v Speaker 1>like immediately was joking with me in my extense. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I like that, you know, give it

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<v Speaker 1>to me. And you know, that's another thing that another

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<v Speaker 1>attribute the dudes that if they're able to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard. I've heard it's a big deal for ladies.

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<v Speaker 1>So did you ask him out or did he ask

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<v Speaker 1>you out? He asked me out? Nice, yeah, and which

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<v Speaker 1>was great. You know, we had a couple of drinks,

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<v Speaker 1>had a nice meal. But I was a little annoyed

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<v Speaker 1>because there were a lot of like kids there and

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<v Speaker 1>they were being really loud and just annoying, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like they were like running all over the place and

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<v Speaker 1>at a fancy restaurant. They weren't. It wasn't a fancy restaurant,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was, you know, as a decent restaurant, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, they were just so loud, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I said to him, I was like, kids are annoying,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know how people do it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>he was just like, oh, I have a kid. That

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<v Speaker 1>was good. What I meant was every kid except for

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<v Speaker 1>yours is annoying. How did you backpedal on that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Well no, I was like no, no, no, just these kids.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure your kids. It was really awkward and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know what to say. And he was really nice

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<v Speaker 1>about it. He like jokes with me. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>like no, no, no, I get it, like I have

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, he's annoying, Like, I get it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he just dropped on you that he had a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you feel about that? I mean, it's it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's weird, but I don't know. Like I said, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I like to try new things. So why not parenting? Yeah? Whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>step parent? You know. I mean I haven't stayd a

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<v Speaker 1>guy with a kid before, so why not? Right? So

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<v Speaker 1>how did everything end with him? Well? I thought things

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<v Speaker 1>were going smoothly and then he took me home kissed

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<v Speaker 1>me on the cheeks, which you know is nice. I

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<v Speaker 1>was hoping for a little bit more. But it was right,

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<v Speaker 1>especially from an ultimate frisbee player. Those guys are badassies.

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<v Speaker 1>They're usually not going for a kiss on the cheek

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the night, you know. So do

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<v Speaker 1>you think it's a kid thing? That is the reason

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<v Speaker 1>I've everything else was great. That was the only awkward

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<v Speaker 1>moment that I could think of that probably would have

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<v Speaker 1>kept him from calling me again. You know. And how

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<v Speaker 1>many times have you tried to reach out to him?

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<v Speaker 1>I sent him like a text few days after and

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<v Speaker 1>no reply. Um, yeah, so this one. But I really

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<v Speaker 1>want to see him again. I you know, I really

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed our our date. Okay, well we'll play a song,

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<v Speaker 1>come back, call him and get your second date update?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Okay, okay, hang on frooking Jubil in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Second update. I'm honestly really surprised that Jesse, who was

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone to do a second date update today,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't getting a call back from the dude that she

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<v Speaker 1>went out with, because really, she has all of the

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<v Speaker 1>qualities that men look for in a woman. She hates kids,

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty much it. That's the quality, that's what you

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<v Speaker 1>look for. That's the quality. And she has that right, Jesse, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't say I hated kids. I just thought the

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<v Speaker 1>ones in the restaurant were annoying. If you're just tuning in,

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse met the dude she wants to call today while

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<v Speaker 1>playing Ultimate Frisbee. They went out to eat at a restaurant,

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<v Speaker 1>and the only thing that she thinks might be the

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<v Speaker 1>reason he's not calling back is because while they were there,

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<v Speaker 1>she made a comment about how annoying the kids in

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<v Speaker 1>the restaurant were, and that's when he said, Oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a kid, And yeah, I guess it was a

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<v Speaker 1>little awkward after that, but they got back to normal

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<v Speaker 1>and she ended with a kiss on the cheek, but

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't heard anything since. Yep, that's pretty much it. And

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is he never really came back from that,

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<v Speaker 1>and you never told him like, no, I actually like kids.

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<v Speaker 1>I could see myself being with someone with the kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what you want to tell him now? If

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<v Speaker 1>we get him on the phone. It sounds a little

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<v Speaker 1>desperate saying that, doesn't it like I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>to get away from the awkward moment. Maybe you just

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<v Speaker 1>addressed that it was a joke and move on instead

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<v Speaker 1>of being like no, I promise I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>a mom. I don't know either way. The date didn't

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<v Speaker 1>work out for you, So I'm gonna call him right now.

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<v Speaker 1>See if we get him on the phone and find

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<v Speaker 1>out what happened. Okay, okay, all right, here here we go. Hello, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>can I speak to Douglas? Who's Douglas? Hey Doug, this

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<v Speaker 1>is Jewel from Brook and Jewil in the Morning. How

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<v Speaker 1>are you? My name is Douglas. Who's this? This is

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<v Speaker 1>Jewel from Brook and Jewil in the Morning. Or okay,

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<v Speaker 1>who are you? Host a radio show called Brook and

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<v Speaker 1>Jewil in the Morning. My name is Jewil. Um. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you need from me? Well? I wanted to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you about a friend of ours who you know? Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're pretty quick and to the point, guy, aren't you Douglas?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes I am. Why are you calling me? Good question?

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<v Speaker 1>So you went out with a girl named Jesse recently? Yeah? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you like Jesse? What business is that of yours? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's our business because she emailed us to see

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<v Speaker 1>if we could talk to you and find out if

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't like her. I didn't hate her, who I

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<v Speaker 1>just didn't feel it working Okay, okay, can you tell

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<v Speaker 1>us why I don't feel worth the same places in

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<v Speaker 1>our lives? And it's just as far as personalities, temperaments

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<v Speaker 1>and patience goes, it's just not what I'm looking for

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<v Speaker 1>in some of the date? Sorry? Is it because you

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<v Speaker 1>have a kid and she doesn't? How do you know that? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>she told us a little bit about your date and

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<v Speaker 1>said she thinks that's the reason you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>go out with her again, just like amnial, So you

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<v Speaker 1>can't deal with it yourself. Wait, you just like put

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<v Speaker 1>down a whole generation of people there. Well, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying that every millennial is one of those things and

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<v Speaker 1>behaves that way. But when I see a duck, I

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<v Speaker 1>call it a duck. It's a good way to peace.

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<v Speaker 1>So you thought she was a millennial duck? Well, after

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<v Speaker 1>having to listen to a five minute tirade that someone

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<v Speaker 1>didn't tag her in a Facebook post? Yeah kind of what? Okay? Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know about the tirade, but I'm really curious,

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<v Speaker 1>are you sixty five year old man? I'm a thirty

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<v Speaker 1>year old man with two kids with soulk custody. I

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot to do. I'm very busy. I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't have time to screw around anymore, Okay, And by

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<v Speaker 1>her complaining about a Facebook post, do you think she

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<v Speaker 1>has time to screw around? And you don't. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>just that she's complaining that. No, you know, I work

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<v Speaker 1>at ten to eight or ten to five job and

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<v Speaker 1>I only got eight hours of sleep last night, and

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<v Speaker 1>her friends aren't tagging her Facebook posts, and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't think she's a bad person. I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't have time for that. Yeah, I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense like you're a single parent of I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get place in my life. I'm sorry. I mean, why

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<v Speaker 1>didn't you just tell her that though? Well, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to come down on her as like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're an idiot, and I don't want to have anything

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<v Speaker 1>else to do with you and me. You're already there

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<v Speaker 1>on the day, and I don't think that. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that. It's just like I said, we're just in

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<v Speaker 1>different places in her life. We want different things. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>in a few years she might feel differently, but right

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<v Speaker 1>now I don't have the time to do it. So

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<v Speaker 1>in your mind, it's just finish the date up, give

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<v Speaker 1>her a kiss on the cheeks, send her on her way,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can get back to doing business. Look, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not doing business, it's called life. I'm actively participating in it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just gotta get it done. I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>time for the bs. But I mean, here's the thing

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<v Speaker 1>with that. Like, I get that you have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>on your plate right now, but you can't fault her

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<v Speaker 1>for not having the same amount of stuff to deal with.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not faulting her. I'm just saying that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have time for it. I'm sure there's plenty of other

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<v Speaker 1>guys that can sympathize and want to listen to her

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<v Speaker 1>about not getting tagged in a Facebook post. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>one of them, all right. And look, if you guys

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<v Speaker 1>want to get back to her and just let her know,

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<v Speaker 1>that'd be great. I'd appreciate it. Well, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>better idea. I can tell that you're, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you're a man of business. Let's expedite it and just

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<v Speaker 1>let you know that she's on the phone right now

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<v Speaker 1>and you actually told her what are you talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she's on the other line listening to this

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<v Speaker 1>conversation and would like to speak with you real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have time, sir, sir, she's not on the phone. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I am hi. I'm sorry, Jesse, you had to hear that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mean it maliciously, but it's the truth. It

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<v Speaker 1>just sounds like you're being really, really insensitive. Honestly, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not about insensitivity. It's just I mean no, it's that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to You don't want to empathize with

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<v Speaker 1>my problems, but you think your problems are so much

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<v Speaker 1>bigger and greater than mine. Are you were worried about

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<v Speaker 1>a Facebook post? I have two kids to raise, want

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<v Speaker 1>to hatively much bigger problems. But I'm sorry if that

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<v Speaker 1>hurts your feelings. I don't mean to. It's just the

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<v Speaker 1>way it is. Listen. It wasn't about the Facebook post,

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<v Speaker 1>is the fact that I was posted by my roommate. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you have no idea what it's like to live with

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<v Speaker 1>two other women. It's hard, It's really hard. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>kidding me? I can't even believe that sentence is coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of your mouth. You have no idea, you know, clue,

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<v Speaker 1>you've never done it before. You have no idea what

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<v Speaker 1>it's like to be responsible for two kids that you're

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<v Speaker 1>responsible for keeping alive. You live with two kids. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not your responsibility. Two kids. I am their responsibility. The

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<v Speaker 1>buck stops with me, it doesn't. I'm not worried about

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook posts. I'm sorry. Please stop talking about my Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>post and stop talking about your kids. Okay? How really?

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<v Speaker 1>How hard can indeed raise two kids? Okay? You just

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<v Speaker 1>sit them in front of a TV? Why not? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really I'm starting to lose my patience. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>she's not an evil person. I just do not have

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<v Speaker 1>time for this nonsense anymore. I'm sure she'd do great.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure she's gonna find a great guy. I really

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<v Speaker 1>gotta go listen. Working is hard, Okay. I work from

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<v Speaker 1>ten to five with barely an hour lunch break. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's assiful. If you don't even want to hear me out, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>hear out ten to five. You want to? You want

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<v Speaker 1>to do something like the day that I that we

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<v Speaker 1>met playing up with frisbee. You know the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>days off I get like that one of those a month.

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<v Speaker 1>Even when I have a day off, Jesse, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a day go off. I have to babysit two

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<v Speaker 1>kids every second of the day. There's no time off

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<v Speaker 1>for me. If I'm I get a chine, I was

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<v Speaker 1>to sleep a night. That is a choice you made. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>if you were two kids, that's your choice. You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a father. Okay, you can't blame me if I

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<v Speaker 1>want to get more than a date hour and to

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<v Speaker 1>sleep at night, Jesse, I'm not blaming you. I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to date you. Jesse. I think that you

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<v Speaker 1>should probably just quit while your ahead. Because he is

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<v Speaker 1>being way nicer than I expected to be to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. I'd like to hear more from him. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>As a matter of fact, I think you guys would

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<v Speaker 1>be a great couple. Oh really, yeah, Douglas, would you

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<v Speaker 1>like to go out with Jesse on another date? We

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<v Speaker 1>will pay for it. Come on, guys, please please get

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<v Speaker 1>you a second date. Douglas. Look, I appreciate that you're

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<v Speaker 1>having a lot of fun with the the radio, but I

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<v Speaker 1>really got stuff to do. I'm sorry Jesse and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get along. I'm sorry you guys couldn't put us

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<v Speaker 1>back together for a date. Everything will be fine. The

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<v Speaker 1>sun's coming up tomorrow, nobody's gonna die. But I have

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<v Speaker 1>to go get my kids ready for school. Please go

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<v Speaker 1>all right, We'll let you go. Douglas, thank you, thank you, bye?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, all right, and he is gone. Jesse, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sorry that didn't work out for you. I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>kind of blown away by it. I honestly thought it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't go that badly. So you thought it didn't go back? Well, Jesse, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>better luck next time, okay, okay. And I feel your

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<v Speaker 1>pain about the Facebook tagging thing. It is so annoying

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<v Speaker 1>when people leave you off the posts. Thank you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he just didn't get it, I know. Jerk broken Jupil

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning text message in at seven eighty five

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<v Speaker 1>to nine two says that girl makes me ashamed to

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<v Speaker 1>be a millennial. Talking about today's a second date update

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<v Speaker 1>that was taped twelve, Brooke was still here, brooks out

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<v Speaker 1>on eternity to leave. Jackie is filling in. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>the couple Jesse and Douglas, that's their names. Jesse wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to call Douglas. He wasn't calling back after they had

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<v Speaker 1>a great date. And the reason why is because he's

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<v Speaker 1>a busy man with kids and she has big problems too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah does. She was really upset that her roommates didn't

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<v Speaker 1>tag her in a Facebook post, and she was also

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<v Speaker 1>complaining about having to work from ten to five with

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<v Speaker 1>only an hour lunch break. Oh my god, what does

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<v Speaker 1>work that they demand that of her? I know, that

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<v Speaker 1>is ridiculous. I'm sure she could call somebody. That's got

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<v Speaker 1>to be illegal. Gym laid and then the bachelor's only

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<v Speaker 1>and there's so much going on in her life. There's

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<v Speaker 1>such easy work hours, and I know, and the guy

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<v Speaker 1>was kind. He was kind of a jerk about it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like we're in two different places in life.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm busy, I got kids, and she doesn't understand the pressures.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a little barky about it. Yeah, he was. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a little angry about it. But almost everybody texting

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<v Speaker 1>in at seven, eight, five to nine two is taking

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<v Speaker 1>his side, just because of the trivial stuff that she

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<v Speaker 1>complained about. Seriously, your roommate's not tagging you in a

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook post. I mean, you live with them, It's so easy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's in the constitution. Yeah, seriously. And then

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of parents are mad at her because she

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<v Speaker 1>used the line, well, you have kids, just put them

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<v Speaker 1>from the TV or whatever, right, super easy. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even think that. Then again, none of us do that.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want to do a second a update, I

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<v Speaker 1>have to do his email the show and we will

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<v Speaker 1>call the person who didn't call you back. Fellas