1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: Hey everyone, it's Sophia. Welcome to Work in Progress. Hi 2 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 1: Whip Smartie's. Today we are going to do something a 3 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: little different. I'm gonna give you an update on what's 4 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: going on with the show, what you have to look 5 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: forward to, and I'm going to answer some of your questions. 6 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 1: Thank you for sending in such thoughtful questions and asking 7 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: about such interesting topics on our social media pages. It's 8 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: been really really fun to gather these in preparation for today. 9 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: The idea is that I'm going to give you an 10 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: update on the work in progress. On Work in Progress, 11 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: so many of you know that I started this show 12 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: a year and a half ago because I genuinely wanted 13 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: to talk to people that inspire me and in so 14 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: many conversations that I've been fortunate enough to have in 15 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: the arenas of political activism and social change, and entertainment 16 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: and music and even with author's eye geek out about 17 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: and sometimes scientists psycheek out about, I had this AHA moment. 18 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: It was like a light bulb went off and I 19 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: realized it's such an immense privilege to get to speak 20 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: to the people that I get to speak to all 21 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: the time, and starting a podcast Inviting each and every 22 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: one of you to sit across the desk from me 23 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 1: and these incredible guests is really such a powerful way 24 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: to spend that privilege, to democratize those conversations. While I 25 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: can't give everyone Glorious Steinem's phone number so they can 26 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: text her too, I can invite her on this podcast 27 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: and you all can share in her wisdom as I 28 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: get to soak it up. We get to do that together. 29 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: And over these past nine episodes, I've had the chance 30 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: to speak with her and so many other incredible, amazing people. 31 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: The experience has just been unbelievable and fulfilling, and every 32 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: person I've spoken to has excited me and enlightened me 33 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: in ways that I wasn't expecting. And at the same time, 34 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: so have all of you. Putting this out into the 35 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: world and and letting you all in on these conversations 36 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: has been just as exciting and enlightening. Your feedback is 37 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: so thoughtful and meaningful. I'm so incredibly moved when one 38 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: of you sends us a story about something that you learned, 39 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: a conversation that you listen to on this podcast that 40 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: made you feel brave enough or confident enough to then 41 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: have a conversation with your family about something that matters 42 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: to you. It's been so inspiring to see you guys 43 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: send in photos of the books that you've ordered because 44 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: they've been mentioned on this show. And I love seeing 45 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: pictures of the notes that you're taking and all the 46 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: pages in those books that you're folding over. You know 47 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: I do the same. I'm just so happy that this 48 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: show has meant something to you. And in case you 49 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: missed our big news, which obviously is possible because there's 50 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: one million things going on in the world, But in 51 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: case you missed it, we are partnering for season two 52 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: and beyond with Wondering. Now Wondering is one of the 53 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: best names in podcasts. This to me feels like when 54 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: I was a journalism student and I would dream about 55 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: maybe one day working at the New York Times, Like 56 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: I'm working with people who are making some of my 57 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: favorite podcasts, who are telling some of the best stories. 58 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: They're behind podcasts like dr Death, The Shrink, next Door, 59 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: American Scandal, Dirty John, and Blood Ties. I'm obsessed with 60 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: that one. I could not think of a better place 61 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: to be continuing the work in progress journey and part 62 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: of the benefits of announcing a partnership like this, of 63 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: being with a company like Wondering, is that I'm going 64 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: to be able to offer you more content like this episode, 65 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: and more options like Wondering Plus where you can get 66 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: episodes of work in progress add free and early. But honestly, 67 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: most importantly, we're stepping up our game this season. I've 68 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: got an incredible team of people who are all contributing 69 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: to this podcast as we move into season two, and 70 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: we are going to bring you some of our biggest 71 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: guests and best conversations. If you've heard the trailer or 72 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: seen the press, you know that this season. I can't 73 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: believe I'm saying this. You know that this season we 74 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: are talking to Hillary Clinton. Nah. I'm also speaking with 75 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: Diane von Furstenberg and Andrew Yang. We're talking to Ben 76 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: and Jerry, Gladys West, Kevin Love, May Martin, Oh my god, 77 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: I have I talked about feel Good on social media enough? 78 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: I love it? And Chris Bosh is coming, just to 79 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: name a few. In addition to that, we're going to 80 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: be offering an extra episode a week this month on sustainability. Now, 81 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: many of you guys who've been here since the beginning. 82 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: Will remember that last year we did some special podcast 83 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 1: episodes with our friends over at Well and Good. They're 84 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: one of my favorite lifestyle and wellness companies, and this 85 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: year I got to have a really cool conversation with 86 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: them on their video platform about sustainability. It was so 87 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: incredibly inspiring that I decided to interview each of those 88 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: sustainability experts for a special episode of Work in Progress. 89 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking about how to assess and lower 90 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: your impact on this incredible planet in terms of how 91 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: you live at home, in terms of fashion, in terms 92 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: of the beauty products you use, and in terms of 93 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: how the environment is political, how you can stand up 94 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: and speak up for the places that you live in 95 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: the ways that they need you to show up. So 96 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: when I say we've got a lot coming up, I'm 97 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: not kidding. I also want to take a minute and 98 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: acknowledge some of the people who make this show possible. 99 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: It takes a lot to make a podcast, even though 100 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: you might not think it, because our job is to 101 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: bring you a conversation that feels easy, But behind the scenes, 102 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: they're scheduling, there's figuring out equipment, there's editing, and then 103 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: there's editing, and have I mentioned that there's editing. That's 104 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: why I'm working with my friends at Rabbit Grin Productions 105 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: to produce Work in Progress. Robin Jeff from Rabbit Grin 106 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: work on many of the podcasts you already listened to, 107 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: and I feel like Work in Progress could not be 108 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: in better hands with them. And of course my o 109 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: G producer and editor Josh, who makes me sound great 110 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: and who manages to edit out every time I trip 111 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: over my words, Ashley, who helps me prepare for every interview. 112 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: And my wonderful chief of staff who makes everything else 113 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: in my life happen, Caitlin. Literally I could not live 114 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: or exist or avoid walking into walls without her. I 115 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: am truly lucky to have all of these people be 116 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: part of the Work in Progress team, and I'm so 117 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 1: excited that we've been able to build and expand and 118 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: this team for season two. You also might notice that 119 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: we have some new artwork. Since there's a lot happening here, 120 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: we thought it was the right time to put a 121 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: fresh face on things. The world is opening up again, 122 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: and like any good debut, we've got a new look. 123 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: I want to thank the amazing design team behind this 124 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: new art the Hood Sisters and my best friend and 125 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: my collaborator and my sister from another Mr Babs Birchfield, 126 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: who is the most talented artist, consultant and creative mind 127 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: for the inspiration, the support and the amazing results. We 128 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: also could not have made our new art without the 129 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: wildly talented Ryan Fluger. He and I shot for the 130 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: first time together years ago in the Before Times when 131 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: I spoke at a teen Vogue summit, and I was 132 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: so moved by my experience working with him. He captures 133 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: people as they are. He makes you feel like the 134 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: best version of yourself. He uses his camera lens to 135 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: really look into people and if you fall allow him 136 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: on Instagram, which you should at Ryan Fluger, you'll be 137 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: so blown away by his portraits. One of the things 138 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: I admire most about Ryan is not only is he 139 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: a talented photographer, but he uses his work to talk 140 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: about society. He highlights underrepresented communities, he champions social change, 141 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: and he uses his platform for good. So obviously we 142 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: love being friends and collaborators altogether. Many many hours of 143 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: thought surfing Pinterest, listening to music for inspiration, and going 144 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: over interactions and concepts led us to something that I 145 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: think is beautiful and worthy of the work in progress 146 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: name so thank you to everyone who made it possible. 147 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: And now for all of you are dear listeners, I 148 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: want to take a minute and answer some of your questions. 149 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: Over the last year and a half, we've gotten a 150 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: lot of them about the show, about me, about how 151 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: we make this, about the guests, and you've all been 152 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: kind enough to submit questions on social media as well. 153 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 1: If you have a question that doesn't get answered here today, 154 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 1: you can hit us up on our socials, leave a comment, 155 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: or shout it loudly into the air, and when I 156 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: feel the hairs on the back of my neck perk cup, 157 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: I'll know it's you. But the first two are honestly 158 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: probably the better options. Comment on Instagram or send us 159 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: a note. We will definitely try to get to your 160 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: questions as we do more and more of these. First 161 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: question for today, this is so hard. Who is your 162 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: dream guest? I have so many, and I've had so 163 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: many on the podcast already. I'm floored by people who 164 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: have said yes. I'm so excited about some of the 165 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: people who have said yes, but schedules have not allowed 166 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: them to be here. Yet, And did I mention Hillary 167 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: Clinton is our first guest this year. I'm I'm not 168 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 1: over it. It's fine. Um. I will say. One of 169 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: the things that I was reminded of thanks to this 170 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: pod is the value of time and also how quickly 171 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: it goes. When we first began work in progress, one 172 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: of the first people who we said we absolutely had 173 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: to interview with Ruth Bader Ginsburg and that was not 174 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: actually going to be impossible. But she was also a 175 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: queen of the universe and a Supreme Court judge and 176 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: so obviously very very busy. Uh, it was not an 177 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: easy thing to try to get on the books. And 178 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: life happened and she passed away, And it's something that 179 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: I will always be just so crushed about because I 180 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: was really looking forward to getting to sit down and 181 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: speak to her about our incredible legacy. And luckily for 182 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: all of us, so much of her legacy is in 183 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: the history books and is recorded, and there are interviews, 184 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: and there are books, and there are movies we can watch, 185 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: so we have so much Ruth to glean and learn from. 186 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 1: But man, oh man, I I will never again say, oh, 187 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:59,479 Speaker 1: we'll get to it eventually, get get to things today. Uh, 188 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: work on achieving your goals. Tell the people you love 189 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: that you do because times fleeting. Man, Oh, what's been 190 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 1: your favorite episode? Guys? This is not my spiritual gift. 191 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 1: I am not good at picking a favorite. Um. It's 192 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: kind of like asking me a parent to pick their 193 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: favorite child, except that I don't have like two or 194 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: three children. I have nine episodes and counting. So many 195 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: of these conversations have I felt luminous to me. They're 196 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: so rich with information and thought and empathy and heart. 197 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 1: And as I think about conversations that have just been 198 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: so moving for me, Ah, people who have had the 199 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 1: luck to meet that I didn't know before. I mean 200 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: sitting down with Aaron Brockovich, who just is a social 201 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: change leader. And also, by the way, you know the 202 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: movie about her was such an inspiration to me in 203 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: my early career. That was so crazy. When we finished 204 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: the episode and she said, well, just text me next time. 205 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: I was like, what Aaron brockvit okay? Uh that that 206 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: felt like such a such a moment. And like I said, 207 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: I didn't know her before I interviewed her. And then 208 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: I think about getting to interview my friend jimil Smith, 209 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 1: who is a politics and identity and culture writer for 210 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: Rolling Stone, and such an incredible man, such an incredible friend, 211 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: such an incredible ally, And even in the years of 212 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: our friendship, there were things we talked about in our 213 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,599 Speaker 1: interview that were new to me. And that's one of 214 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: the things I think I love most about the podcast 215 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: space is that there is permission given when you sit 216 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: across from someone and you're speaking into a microphone, You've 217 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,119 Speaker 1: got these headphones on and you're just you're in this cocoon, 218 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: and it creates such an opportunity, such permission for intimacy 219 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: and curiosity and revelation, and I just love it the most. 220 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: What is something I learned from season one? Oh man, 221 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: I think something that really crystallized for me overseason one 222 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: is how many things can be true at the same time. 223 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: People can be successful and accomplished and still afraid. People 224 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: can have done great things and still wonder if they 225 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: have any more greatness left in them. Uh. We can 226 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: be powerful and also fearful. We can create change and 227 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: wonder if we're doing enough. The kind of dichotomy of 228 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: being many things at once is the reality of all 229 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: of us. And there's something about each person being willing 230 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: to share who they are. That reminds me that I 231 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: am allowed to be who I am. And it's been 232 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: incredibly powerful to hear from all of you at home 233 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: that you've had moments like that too. You've said, I 234 00:13:55,920 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: feel so seen because of this conversation. Uh, the thing 235 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: that this guest shared really made me feel better about 236 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: myself or gave me permission to be myself. I think 237 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: that there's something so powerful about communication, and I just 238 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: really I've learned so much. But that's the thing I 239 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: think I come back to all the time. Oh, this 240 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: is a good question. What is the story behind the 241 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: podcast name? Okay, so here's a weird, fun strange I 242 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: guess byproduct of my day job, you know, my normal career. 243 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: Having been on TV for so long in a digital 244 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: age means that pretty much everything I've ever said in 245 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: an interview is recorded somewhere. And I have such a 246 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: deep relationship with you guys. I really feel such a kinship, 247 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: and I really feel such a kinship to my whole 248 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: digital community. And so I see a lot of your feedback. 249 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: And when I first put my big aha momentum out 250 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: into the world, you know, my my writing that this 251 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: sentence came from which you know, then became quoted over 252 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: and over again. Um, it's the phrase, and I don't 253 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: I don't even know where it came from. It just 254 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: came out of me one day. I said, you are 255 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: allowed to be both a masterpiece and a work in 256 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: progress simultaneously. And I think that I said it because 257 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: I wanted all of you to know it. And I 258 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: think that I said it because I needed to remind 259 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: myself that that was true. That you can be a masterpiece, 260 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: meaning you can celebrate your winds. You can be proud 261 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: of who you are. You can be fulfilled by your 262 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: life and confident in your knowledge and be a work 263 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: in progress. You can be setting goals. You can desire 264 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: to achieve more. You can be always open to learning more, 265 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: to change in your mind when you have more information. 266 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: You can be proud of yourself and still be working 267 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: on yourself simultaneously at the same time. And I needed 268 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: to hear it, and a lot of you needed to 269 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: hear it too. It is the thing I have said 270 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: in you know, fifteen plus years in the public eye 271 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: that has been reshared, the most reblogged, the most made 272 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: into the most art on Pinterest, it has also been 273 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: stolen the most by people who try to pass it 274 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: off as their writing. And you guys are are such 275 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: an amazing troop of humans because you'll find it and 276 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: make sure people credit me for it. You'll you, you 277 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: guys always are like that. Sophia Bush is writing and 278 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: it means a lot to me. You know. It's when 279 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: you share a piece of your yourself, you know, a 280 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: piece of your heart. It feels really personal. And so 281 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: I am so moved by the by the impact of 282 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: that share, and I am so grateful for the way 283 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: that you all care about it. And I'm really glad 284 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: that it's been it's been this idea that that feels 285 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: anyway to me like it's become kind of a foundational 286 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: support for a lot of us, myself included. So God, 287 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: I'm still answering this question. I'm really a long talker, 288 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 1: aren't I. I wanted to name the podcast work in 289 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: Progress because I knew that I needed to hear that 290 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: you're allowed to be a masterpiece and a work in 291 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: progress simultaneously. And I saw how it resonated with all 292 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: of you. And it's not lost on me that so 293 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: many of you have said to me over the years, Well, 294 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: you've figured it out, you know, you succeeded it at thing. 295 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: There's this idea out there that someone who's done something 296 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: or achieved something has arrived. But I don't feel like 297 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: I've arrived. I feel like I'm still going. And any 298 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,720 Speaker 1: achievement or or a modicum of success doesn't take away 299 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: your doubt, your fear, your vulnerability, or emotions. And I 300 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: realized that the more that I was honest with that 301 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: about you, all the more you felt like you could 302 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: be honest about that in your own lives. And then 303 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: I thought, well, look at all these people who I 304 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: look up to, who I consider mentors, who so many 305 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: of us idolize UM for their brilliance, their achievements, what 306 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: they've created, They're all still just trying to figure it 307 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: out too. And so to invite people who I really 308 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: admire and look up to, who I really think deserved 309 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: to have a spotlight shown on them and their work 310 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: on this show and hear how they're figuring it out too, 311 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: just feels like the coolest adventure. So that's the story 312 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: behind the name, that's UM, that's the intention behind the 313 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: the energy of it. And I'm really glad that that 314 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: feels good to you guys. Oh, which guest has surprised 315 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: me the most? Oh my god, you guys, these are 316 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: these are tough questions. Um, you know what's really funny. 317 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna look at our Instagram page. I'm going 318 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: to look at all these guests faces. It's really hard 319 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: to think about who surprised me the most, because I've 320 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: learned so many, so many things from every person who's 321 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: come on this show. I think one of the things 322 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: that probably surprised me most, though, was very early on 323 00:19:54,760 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: speaking to Chelsea Handler about therapy about loss. You know, 324 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: Chelsea is one of the funniest women on the planet. 325 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: Her entire career revolves around comedy, and for her to 326 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: get so honest with the millions and millions of people 327 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: who are her fans about learning as an adult what 328 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: her brother dying when she was a child meant to her, 329 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: in that deep sense of how it imprinted on her, 330 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 1: how it affected her. I was blown away by the 331 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: level of work she'd done and by her willingness to 332 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: talk about it. You know, so many, so many of 333 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: us don't want to talk about our deepest wounds with 334 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: the world, and she just showed up and was like, 335 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: let's get into it. And there was so much joy 336 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: in our conversation and so much laughter. And then oh 337 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: my god, this this well of just soulfulness. I I 338 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: was so bowled over by her, her bravery and her willingness. 339 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: I just I really loved it. I was also like surprised, 340 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: but not surprised by Mary Trump. You know, she had 341 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: so much to share at such a critical juncture um 342 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: in our nation's history, and you know, in the United 343 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: States election. And I was so grateful that she was 344 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: really willing to to lay it all out there in 345 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: the way that she did. Yeah, so much. That is surprising. Also, 346 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I was not surprised by Corey Bush 347 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: being so fierce. What surprised me was and you know, 348 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: I got to interview her in the before time, so 349 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: we got to be together. What surprised me about her 350 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: was how clear that energy of ferocity for her community, 351 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: you know, running for Congress, um, having been a nurse, 352 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: all all of the ways in which she's dedicated to people. 353 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: Being with her in person, you could quite literally feel 354 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: how rooted in love her fight is, how rooted in 355 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: love of community. I mean being with Corey Bush is 356 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: like being hugged and also like being reminded that you 357 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: are more capable than you think you are and you 358 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: can get out there and you can do the work. 359 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: She is just unbelievable, but yeah, I was. I was 360 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: amazed by by what her energy felt like, which was 361 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: so cool. What podcasts do I listened to? Well? I 362 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: listened to The Daily. I love waking up and starting 363 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: my day with that. I make coffee. I listened to 364 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: The Daily. It's the thing you need to know every 365 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: day from the New York Times. Um. I love Up 366 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: First from NPR. I love the Terray Show. I'm also 367 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: a nerd about Ray Deo Lab. I just think it's 368 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: so good. I love Guilty Feminist. I love the Ted 369 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: Radio Hour and consider this. Those are so good on 370 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: being with Krista Tippett is is my go to for 371 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: spiritual thought and you know, feeling connected to the universe. 372 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: Tara Brack is a phenomenal meditation teacher. I love to 373 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 1: listen to her. I've got some friends with great podcasts, 374 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: like That's so Retrograde from Elizabeth and Stephanie Dax's podcast Armed. 375 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:41,199 Speaker 1: Her expert is phenomenal Amanda's Seals and Small Doses. My 376 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: god is she's so funny and oh my gosh, have 377 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: you wow? I just I just realized I've asked this 378 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: question as though I can hear you respond. I was 379 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: just gonna say, have you all listen to Table Manners 380 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: by Jesse Ware. That's a really good one. It's her 381 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 1: and her mom, uh, you know, talking about music and 382 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: food and life, and I just love it. So yeah. 383 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 1: Those are those are some of the podcasts that I 384 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: really enjoy. What am I reading these days? Oh my goodness? Well, 385 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: to prepare for the interview with them from Furstenberg, I 386 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: read her new book Own It a Guide to Life, 387 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,239 Speaker 1: and it's such a cool concept. It's kind of like 388 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: a an alphabet on emotions. I really really enjoyed it. Um. 389 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: I was incredibly moved by Cast by Isabel Wokerson. What 390 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: a profound book, especially to read in the backdrop of 391 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: you know, this last year and and the global movement 392 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 1: for Black Lives Matter. Um. I'm reading a book by 393 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: a woman named Mieko Kawakami called Breasts and Eggs. It's 394 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 1: a beautiful, beautiful novel. Um that I've just been really 395 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 1: really moved by um Maria Popova is also one of 396 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: my favorite writers. Her web site, brain Pickings is phenomenal 397 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: and her book is beautiful. I also order a lot 398 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: of books off of her website my bookshop dot org. 399 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: Orders have really been up this year as we've all 400 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: been home, and I've really been diving into a lot 401 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: of design books, just nerding out on architecture. And I'm 402 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: also a huge fan of essays, and there's a a 403 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: book that gets published every year called you know the 404 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: Years Great American Essays, and I've been I've really enjoyed 405 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: reading that over the years too. So many many things 406 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: for you to examine if you're a fellow bookworm. Um, well, 407 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: this is a great question. How can I get involved 408 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: in progressive causes in my area? Okay? So one of 409 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: the things that I think is the best if you 410 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: are starting on your road to local advocacy is to 411 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: help the helpers. Look for the people in your community 412 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: who are doing good work and show up to learn. 413 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: We have so much that we can do by giving 414 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: our time and attention to causes. And you can show 415 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: up and sit up. You know, there's there's the whole 416 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: idea of show up, stand up speak up, but first 417 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: show up and listen up, listen to the people who 418 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: are doing the work and learn from them. And I 419 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 1: think that that's true for local advocacy. So we're all 420 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 1: very blessed. We live in the Internet age. Type an 421 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: issue you care about and your city into Google and 422 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 1: see what comes up. Also, look for tips online from 423 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: activists who you follow. So I obviously share a lot 424 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: of information on you know, activism and causes. Follow those 425 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: people who I'm reposting, follow the people who they repost 426 00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 1: Follow activists who are leading movements you respect, and see 427 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: who they're sharing about, and you will find resources. You 428 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 1: will be able to go down those rabbit holes of 429 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: information and figure out organizations that you might want to 430 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: volunteer for books to read, things to learn, Google docs 431 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: to research. Many people share them on topics that matter, 432 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: and within those docs you can find organizations. And on 433 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: a national level, I think something that's incredibly important is 434 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: to make sure you're paying attention to what's going on 435 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: with bills and proposals. I think also a way to 436 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: bridge local and national call your elected officials. I have 437 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: a reminder in my calendar every Monday I call my senators. 438 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: It doesn't take long. The Senate switchboard is you know 439 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: a public phone number, then you just say who your 440 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: senator is. You can leave a message. Let people know 441 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: what matters to you, not just what you're upset about, 442 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: but what you believe in. Let your set nitors know 443 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: that you want to see a green new deal on 444 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: a blue new deal. Let your senators know that you 445 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: believe in fighting for the environment. Let them know that 446 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: you want indigenous lands protected. Let them know that they 447 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: must reinstate the Violence Against Women Act. Let them know 448 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: that background checks matter to Americans because over nine of 449 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: us agree that they should exist. So let's make it happen. 450 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: All of these things. You know, political activism doesn't have 451 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 1: to feel like a drag or a chore. It can 452 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: actually feel like a deeply positive and exciting place to 453 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: go to support people, to support yourself, your family, your community, 454 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: your neighbors, your city, your state. It's it's a pretty 455 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: cool space to get involved in. So go and inspect. Also, 456 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: make sure you're vetting information that you're reading, because misinformation 457 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: is out there and it is not cool. Um make 458 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: sure that you know you're you're sharing truth, you're seeking 459 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,479 Speaker 1: ruth and and you're standing up for others, and I 460 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: think it's a pretty good way to begin um. Final 461 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: final question for today, can you have AOC on the pod? Oh, y'all, 462 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: I would love to. I just think she is the 463 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: coolest I honestly, I just need her to say yes. 464 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: I mean, Alexandria, you know that you're my hero. Uh, 465 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: let's make it happen. Also, you know Asterisk l O L. 466 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: I know you're maybe one of the busiest women who 467 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: is an elected official in the country right now, so 468 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm aware you don't have a lot of gaps in 469 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: your schedule. But to the fans of Work in Progress 470 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: and the fans of AOC, yes, we are very down 471 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: for a w I P x ao C experience. These 472 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: have been such good questions. Guys. I can't believe that 473 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: I've just been chatting this way in one direction for 474 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: so long. I'm used to conversations on the pod, but 475 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: this has felt very cool because it feels like a 476 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: conversation with all of you, and we couldn't do this 477 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: without you. Guys, you are cherished and appreciated. Thank you 478 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: for being our fans and listeners. Thank you for sharing 479 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: about the podcast. We hope that with all this new 480 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: artwork and cool social assets and things coming your way, 481 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: you'll have even more to share. Tell your friends, make 482 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: sure you're subscribed to Work in Progress, wherever you listen 483 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: to podcasts, and we will see you on the airwaves.