WEBVTT - Reginald Hudlin Full Interview 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.400 My next guest is that person. Call him a good friend, 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:07.800 somebody I laughed. I've laughed many times and in entertainment 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:10.680 where we walked with eating together. He's called on me 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:13.080 to do favors for him, and I've and I've done 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:15.160 him because guess what, he's the type of person when 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:17.599 he calls you, you should do a favor for. And 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:19.560 more than thirty years, more than thirty year career. My 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:22.840 next guest is written, directed to produce numerous classic feature 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:30.240 films including House Party, Awesome, Boomerang, Classic Baby's Kids, Classic Django, 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:35.199 Unchained and started my board. Jamie Fox and Marshall, you know, hey, 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:38.000 my man Black Panther and that one. He's excutive abusive 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:42.479 writer of the animated TV series Black Panther, executive producer Boondocks. 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:44.440 He's on the show to day to talk about this 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:47.160 his first that's what the that's what the bio said, 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:51.600 his first feature Lynch documentary, The Black Girlfather, which is 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.880 currently airing right now on Netflix. Please work with the 0:00:54.880 --> 0:01:00.240 money making conversation. My dear friend Reginald Hudland, thank you, 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:07.760 you come on now. Black Godfather Clarence A. Vot I 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:10.280 had a chance in the two thousand, I was in 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:13.320 there and and Steve Harvey was doing radio and l 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:16.360 A blowing up. We took a station that was nineteen 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:19.039 in the market. It was number one and six months 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:23.679 so we were Who's who black radio a radio period 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:27.840 in l A. And everybody kept telling me, Chean, you 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:32.520 gotta meet this guy, Clarence Avon. He's uh, you gotta 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:35.119 meet him, man, you gotta meet He's kind of like you. 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:36.560 He's kind of like you in a lot of ways, 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:40.840 but he's a bad man. I will tell you this, Reginald. 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:43.880 I did not meet him after watching this special, The 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:48.080 Black Girl Father, which I am recommending everybody watch. All right, 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:52.240 he's special. Man. How did you come across the story 0:01:52.240 --> 0:01:54.080 and how were you able to put all of this, 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:58.160 all of this footage together. Man, there's so many clearances 0:01:58.160 --> 0:01:59.880 you had to do to get all this stuff clear. 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:04.560 You know that. I love that you went straight to 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:10.360 the business side. The movie got mad. Yes, man, I'm 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:13.519 talking about I'm talking to people you're watching special. It's 0:02:13.520 --> 0:02:17.720 amazing the journey this young man had through his life. Okay, 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:23.040 coming from the South, going to Chicago in l A. Presidents. 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:27.160 You know the fact that he um. But then I 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:30.760 then that can that go business? The Reginald go Okay, uh, okay, 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:33.480 that needs to be clear. Okay, that needs to be clear. Okay, 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:35.359 how did you get permissure of that? That needs to 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:37.880 because Stan Lathan sitting up in there, you know Lyon 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:41.080 Richie sitting up in there. You know l A. Reid 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.960 and Baby facitting up in there. You know Jimmy jam 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:46.200 and Terry Lewis sitting up in there. It's just a 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:50.360 list after listen, President Barack Obama sitting up in there, 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:53.359 President Bill Clinton sitting up in there. Talking about this man. 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:56.440 This is what this special is about. And I'm leaving 0:02:56.440 --> 0:02:58.400 out a whole lot of names because guess what you 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:02.240 need to watch and be on at this man's ability 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:08.239 to be able to communicate at every level of our society. Who, Reginald, 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:10.120 how did you get this story and how did you 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:15.760 get started? Well? Crazy enough? I met him at the 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:20.400 beginning of my career in show business. Um. I made 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:26.520 some little short films, and when I started doing music videos, 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.799 all my music business friends would talk about Clarence A. 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:36.480 Vo Andre Herredo Russell Simmons. They talked about plans like 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:38.840 he was Zeus you know what I mean. He was 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:43.600 model Lympus level, like you know. Uh, so I knew 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:46.720 he was important. I knew he was at the top 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:50.440 of the food chain. But then I get a call 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:56.400 from George Jackson mckenry, who were black producers making movies, 0:03:57.040 --> 0:04:05.640 and one of the movies. You know, I'm absolutely and 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:08.400 George was a few years ahead of me in college. 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:10.920 So he said, oh, I know this young kid, he 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:14.920 just graduated. He's got a little student film called House Party. 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:18.000 He's talented. So they called me out to l A 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:21.680 for a meeting about a movie that was supposed to 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:26.080 start Janet Jackson. And the time, Janet Jackson had just 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:29.560 done her first album, uh, you know, a control that 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:33.680 really had broken out, and you know, the time was hot, 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:36.840 coming off a Purple Rain. So they were like, let's 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:39.359 do a movie with them together. So they brought me 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:42.320 out there and Clarence met me at the airport, which 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:46.120 I knew was a big deal because Clarence was the man. 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:52.320 And so then they brought me to his house, which 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:55.440 was in the beautiful home in Beverly Hills, filled with 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:59.560 the most amazing black art. It was like a museum. Uh. 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:01.960 And then I'm looking around, and then I see an 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:06.080 Andy Warhol painting and I'm like, whoa, that's that's stuff. 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:09.840 You see a museums in this man's house. And then 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:12.560 I met him, and he was everything everyone claimed he was. 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:16.200 He was wrong, he was real, He cut to it. 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:19.520 At the same time, you know, you knew he was 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:23.239 the man that just made things happen. And then over 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:26.000 the years, in all my time and show business, you 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:30.080 really can't do too much without hearing Clarence names evoked 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:34.040 one way or the other. Whether it's music business or 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:39.320 politics or whatever it is, Clarence is always up in there. 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:43.279 Uh So I knew I wanted to tell his story 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:48.599 because we all respected him, our whole generation of folks 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:51.920 who worked entertainment, Black folks who worked in entertainment. I 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:54.800 don't care if you're in the music business, movie business, whatever, 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:58.839 you respected Clarence avan And I thought, well, I want 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:01.840 to tell his story, right doc. Clarence did not want 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:04.360 his story told. He was like, I'm not writing a book. 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:08.560 I'm not doing this, I'm not doing that. So finally 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:13.280 his daughter and Nicole, maybe not a book, maybe let's 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:16.719 do a documentary, and he agreed to that, and then 0:06:16.839 --> 0:06:19.080 She asked them, well, who do you want to make it? 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.479 And he said, well call Reggie. I like Reggie. And 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:26.680 that's funny, you know boom. Now when you get that 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:29.560 called that's like a papal order, that's like a Vatican right, 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:34.640 you do, go, your sir, get on it. And but 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:36.560 it also but it also has some fear in that 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:39.200 too when you say, because you know, you know the 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:41.719 body of work that you how do you do the beginning, 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:43.839 middle of the end, because this is an incredible beginning, 0:06:43.839 --> 0:06:45.760 because we could have stayed on the beginning when you 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:49.080 got started, you know, a gainst the relation background, that 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:51.719 was a whole story yourself. You know that's a movie. Really, 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:55.720 you know that's a movie. Really right, well, there's no 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.640 question and you know when I you know it was me, 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:04.360 Nelson Georgs, the you know journalists, uh you know Byron Phillips, 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:08.200 my producing partner, and also had these backgrounds in the 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:11.440 music business. We all have new clearents. We all heard 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:14.040 all these great journeys. We thought we knew what we 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:17.720 were doing. But once you start thinking, then you realize 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:20.960 way that this door just opened to another door, open 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:25.400 to another door. Every time you interview somebody that at 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:27.400 the end of the interview they go, oh, you know 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:29.520 who you need to talk to, and then they name 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:33.960 three more names. So at a certain point I turned 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:39.120 to the cool um U I said, Nicole, this is 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:42.280 I don't know how far are we gonna go, but 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:45.440 this is my promise to you. I'm gonna shoot until 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:49.400 we're done, right to how long it takes. So we're 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:52.720 really supposed to interview thirty people in a year, so 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:57.880 we did seventy five people in three years because we 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:01.080 had to tell it right to me, Clarence is a 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:05.160 part of black history, but you don't know it because 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:08.520 he don't want you to know it. Right he You know, 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:11.320 people say the phrase like Carol or trus once said 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:16.080 it real bad boys moving silence. Clarence is the definition 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:20.360 of real bad boys moving silence. So many people today 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:24.120 they always want to gas themselves up. I'm this, I'm 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:27.000 not you know that. I'm on social media. You need 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:29.720 to give me my pops. I've won an award. He's 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:33.880 the opposite. He don't want nobody to know nothing unless 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:37.560 you need to know. But let's put this way. His boys, 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:43.240 Chrissy Jones, I mean they boys like his boy boy. 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:47.400 I mean, I mean, I mean they're sitting across each other. 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:50.160 So so that lets you know that you know, we 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:52.840 know Chrissy Jones just say you're hanging out called Nobody's boy. 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:55.920 You know. They it was like their friends best friends 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:59.720 and so and our journey has been years put together. 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.400 But the beauty of this whole when I'm watching this, 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:05.160 I'm watching this, I'm going, you know, and I have 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:08.160 to consider myself a guy who knows a lot. Okay, 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:10.839 now here's a guy. People have been telling me when 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:13.440 I was in l a and the two early two thousand, 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:15.679 this is a guy I was supposed to meet. Several 0:09:15.720 --> 0:09:17.680 times they kept saying, Rachelle, you gotta meet this guy. 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:20.280 Just talk to you, gotta meet this guy and then 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:23.320 to see what he was. And I just saw and 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:25.840 I'm sure, Reggie, you see a piece of yourself in 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:32.000 him because he is so fearless. He is so he 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:34.079 would go up and went to the head of Coca Cola. 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:37.000 Told me, I need to get Harry Aaron out there 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:39.559 because because black people, we need to say black people, 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:46.880 but black people drink cold. It was clean because he 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:49.440 told it he he was a straight shooter. He would saying, 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:52.160 and Henry Aaron will tell you in the interview that 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:54.400 he broke all the grounds for him to be a 0:09:54.440 --> 0:10:00.240 recognized person and sponsors and commercial endorsements. You go, there's 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:04.960 no soul train. There's no Soul train without there's no 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:10.920 Clarence has been involved in every black institution there is, 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:18.440 from from Motown to Soul Trained, WBLS. You know, help 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:22.200 Kathy Hughes. Cathy would say, oh, you know, you know, 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:25.320 Clarence is like my dad. He advised me on everything. 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:30.720 You know, you know, you know everything magazine, w PLS, 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:35.040 you can just name it. If it's an important Black institution, 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:38.920 Clarence has had his fingers on it. You don't know it, 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:42.800 but he's there. So when you saw, you know, and 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:46.760 did his daughter became in you know, ambassador to the 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:51.040 Bahamas and you know his son. You know, he has 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:53.200 a talent agency. But you can tell in the story 0:10:53.280 --> 0:10:56.520 that he cares to weight of his dad's greatness. How 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:58.800 can I live up to him my dad's greatness. There 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:01.920 It really was a touch moment in the documentary when 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:04.240 he when when he talks about when you hear him 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:09.000 talking feeling that that weight of his dad's greatness because 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:11.080 he is a great and then you don't understand it 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:13.480 because guess what, you don't know what just Dad's done. 0:11:14.040 --> 0:11:15.920 Oh you know it's that successful. But when you look 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:20.680 through the history books of entertainment politics, that's the part 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:24.680 that you really don't that you can't you can't his value. 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:28.880 I remember when I met uh before he was President 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:31.200 Barack Obama. I made him at the L. A. Reids 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:35.760 penthouse in New York City, and I remember in that meeting, 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:39.760 you know, Ellie Reis said he was gonna have a 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:42.439 big event for him in uh l A at Clarence. 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:45.320 I didn't know who Clarence was. Okay, you're gonna come 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:47.640 to every shot I go. I guess I didn't make 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:51.520 it there because I didn't understand that the the layers here. 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:54.240 But when you watch that special, you understand why he 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:56.760 said the next event is going to be a Clarence's 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:58.679 house in l A. We're gonna be right back when 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:00.000 we'll talk some more, because I also want to talk 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:03.040 about the Double A CP Image Awards. Who this man 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:06.040 right here has changed the game and has become one 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:10.160 of the most recognized awards shows on television, not just 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:12.760 for black people for for viewers in general. Hi, this 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:16.080 Rashan McDonald and you're listening to money making conversations on 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:23.199 the phone. Is ah is the producer, director, EP Relationship 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:28.520 Guy Academy Awards. But what we're really on the show 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:32.120 to talk about as the individual who who has in 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:38.200 the background changed the way black entertainment has grown in Hollywood. 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:40.440 If he if he doesn't exist, a lot of things 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:44.800 that we consider rememberable about Hollywood that has been a 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:48.120 lawyers that we've where we've long that we've gained h 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:50.559 as part of our history, would not have been there. 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:53.880 His name is that gentleman. Name is Clarence Avon. The 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:57.520 documentary was put together by over three year period by 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:00.920 the incredible Reginald Hutland. Reginald we was talking about when 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:04.520 we left for the break was about one year project. 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:06.680 He turned into three because I remember last time he 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:08.840 was on the show, you talked about this project, but 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:12.640 you didn't have an exit. So so and you're looking 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:15.000 at the guy because you know it's a segment in 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:17.960 the in the show where he's going to be honored. 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:19.480 I won't tell you what he's being honored for. And 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:21.680 that's the only time you will see Reginald in the 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:25.600 documentary is that little it's a little quick shot him 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:28.400 him being that that I said, my boy didn't get 0:13:28.520 --> 0:13:30.600 right over there a little face that a little bit, 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:37.959 but just seeing my man's stand Lathan stand Lathan, um uh, 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:41.079 there's no death comedy jam where I stand later. Okay, 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:44.000 just tell you that's just one um one of the ankles. 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:47.360 But stan Lathan was given opportunity to do the special 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:52.240 that Mohammed Ali did because class ain't gonna said, oh 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:54.600 he's gonna do it, and there's no other option. He 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:57.440 stood up. He stood up. But one thing that that 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:00.120 they walked you through this whole thing. He understood the 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:03.000 value of relationships. And I'm gonna tell you him, he 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:08.120 has some powerful relationships, didn't he. Reginald, He's he's he's 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:16.600 incredible because he's a person understand ninth grade education from Climax, 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:20.600 North Carolina. Okay, he gets kicked out of his house 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:24.360 from an abso stepfather. He gets on the train for 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:26.520 the first time in his life as a young boy, 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:31.400 goes to New Jersey. But somehow, no matter what situation 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:34.920 he's thrown in, he rises to the occasion and he 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:39.320 builds relationships, not because he's kissing, but but because he 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:42.960 works hard and he gets it done and everybody likes him, 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:46.280 and he just from that he gets given another opportunity 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:49.840 and guess what he achieved at that opportunity, which puts 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.840 so he can hire and hire. Pretty soon he's in 0:14:52.920 --> 0:14:57.640 the executive suite in New York, l A everywhere. He 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:01.840 still has his same values is them even though he 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:05.240 dealing with people that would make your head spin, and 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:11.240 that balancing that of thing, taming your core values at 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:14.240 the same time they gave betwe evolved as a person 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:19.600 and evolved as a set of goals is highly unusual. 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:22.080 You know, there is the thing I want to tell 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:24.640 everybody about. We're talking about The Black Guardfather, which is 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:29.479 currently available on Netflix. Um it's an in brilliant um 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:34.040 uh portrayal of an individual who didn't put himself in 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:36.920 front of the opportunity. He provided the opportunity. And that 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:40.240 point in question is this, If you came to him 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:43.640 with a bad record deal, he fixed it. If he 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:45.600 told you came to him and you didn't know how 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:47.240 to do a record deal, he told you how to 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:49.120 do it. He didn't try to take advantage of it. 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:52.400 That is what I'm talking about. When I talk about this, 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:55.360 I'm gonna call him a young man because he's still 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:58.160 out there making a difference in my life just by 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:00.880 watching this special. If you're an entrepreneur, if you're interested 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:03.360 in entertainment, you want to say you want to under 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:08.280 understand how you walk through life and understand the values 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:12.960 of relationships and and and people stepping in front of 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:15.680 you to give you the opportunity. He worked hard. First 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:18.320 of all, let's put that down. He worked hard. He 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:21.240 did not change who he was. So if he failed, 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:24.080 he knew why he failed because he was being himself. 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:28.360 So he always maintained that integrity. And that is why 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:31.840 it's important that we understood that. He also became the 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:35.480 voice of a brand, and at that time was black entertainment. 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.360 He was crazy enough, Yeah, coming to me, I can 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:41.960 make it happen. He said that, and then guess what, 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:47.240 White Hollywood went okay, and guess what he would and 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.200 made it happen. Even if he didn't have the relationship, 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:51.520 he wouldn't have made it happen. That was I'm saying. 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:54.200 This is an incredible journey. So let me ask you this. 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:57.240 Reginald and during the documentary The Black Guard Father, which 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:00.920 is available now on Netflix. What it a couple of 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:05.280 days the most for you, Well, a couple of things. 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:12.760 One is that he would not sell out when when 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:17.040 Dick Clark was trying to create a competing black show 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:21.639 for Soul Train and Don Kurles is fighting for the 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:25.720 West my own man. If they do a knockoff, they're 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:27.840 gonna have the hook up. They're gonna take my advertiser, 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:30.320 they're gonna take my viewers, and I'll be done for 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:35.000 And Clarence was like, Nope, I don't care how much 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:38.159 money you are for me. I'm on Don Cornelius side. 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:43.879 You've got a black businessman who created this show, supported 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:48.359 by another black businessman, Johnson Products, the you know, the 0:17:48.359 --> 0:17:52.720 the the the beauty product company, and this is for 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:57.240 black people. So no, we're not gonna put all these 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:01.080 black people out of work, Don Cornelia is We're not 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:04.200 gonna hurt this black hair care company. We're gonna protect 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:06.879 all this. You know, this is part of the bigger 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:10.200 plan of black people moving forward. These folks are all 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:14.280 doing excellent work, whether it's Johnson Products, whether it's not Cornelius. 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:17.280 So you know what we're gonna we're gonna like link 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:20.920 arms and we're gonna protect that. And if it's just him, 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:24.320 then it's just him. And Clarence would go into the 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:27.000 rooms of the power brokers and he would tell them, 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:30.320 you're not gonna do this, and he would turn down 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:32.800 the payoff and he said, no, we're just gonna do 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:37.400 it for my man. That he just said that politely too. 0:18:37.560 --> 0:18:41.480 You're not gonna do this to these in words, to us, 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:43.560 the white folks in the room. He just told him 0:18:43.600 --> 0:18:46.280 like it is. Now he's not switched style depending on 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:48.440 who was in the room. Yeah, he don't care. He 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:51.159 don't care. Now, here's the funny part about listening to 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:54.680 watching this show. So you know, I know Regilards coming 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:56.320 on the show, and I would I know he did 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:59.280 the documentary Black Hard Father, So I thought, I cheat, right, 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:03.359 I came on Netflix two hours, so I go, okay, 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:06.720 thirty minutes. I know, thirty minutes. I could probably cheat. 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:10.840 Act like I watched the rest right minutes. Okay, I'm 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:14.800 in forty minutes. Okay, in an hour, because because each 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:20.919 fifteen minutes keeps you you're like nah, nah, another start. 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:24.159 You know. Bill Clinton goes on there talking about he 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:26.760 was there when he's about to be impeached. He went 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:31.040 to him, clans Clarson hanging that brother gonna be all good. 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:34.960 That's how he told him. Bill Clem said, thank you. Okay, 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:36.879 this is the guy. This is the this is the 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:40.480 type of guy we're talking about that people came to him. 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:42.719 You know, when they're talking about they talk about when 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:47.240 Loud Richard talks about, we're talking about you know, baby 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:51.119 face talking about his importance. It's just so many individuals 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:54.199 and yeah, like even though I know Cathy Hughes, and 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:58.520 Cathy Hughes, you know she expouses on him and and 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:00.919 his integrity and when he did for him. But the 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:03.879 number one thing that I kept hearing from everybody was 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:06.240 that it was never about him going how much money 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:10.640 I'm gonna make off you. It was never about how 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:12.960 much money I'm gonna make off of you. In fact, 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:15.440 when he should have been charging, it said several times 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:17.440 when he should have been charging, everybody's waiting on the 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:20.480 bill to come their way, and it never came. Because 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:23.720 he was all about protecting you, showing you the right 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:26.520 path to success, and he believed he was gonna get 0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:28.679 taken care and he has been taken care of. But 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:30.560 it was never about sitting down in front of you 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:32.320 talking about Look here, I'm gonna show you how to 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:34.320 do this record deal. But I'm gonna take my little 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:36.840 side over here. What conna do I do my little 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:38.639 hook up? He showed you how to do it, so 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:41.320 you can show somebody else. That's the beauty of this special. 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:43.359 That's why you have to watch it. It's called The 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:48.719 Black gold Father is now available on Netflix, and it's produced, directed, edited, 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:53.040 executive produced by my man Reginald Hudling. Reginald, you bro, 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:59.000 there's another great project down in your resume. Huh. Look well, 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:02.440 I'm so grateful for is the response to the public. 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:06.280 I've got people who said, Reggie, I put it on 0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:10.879 at eleven o'clock. I finished it at one. I know 0:21:10.960 --> 0:21:13.439 I should have gone to bed. I just watched it again, 0:21:13.800 --> 0:21:16.520 back to back, but this time I had my notepad 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:19.600 out and I'm taking notes. I'll talk to people who 0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:22.000 said they've seen it four times, six times, and oh 0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:24.840 I get something different out of it every time. And 0:21:25.840 --> 0:21:29.760 I and I'm talking to black folks, white folks, rich people, 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:35.240 poor people. It doesn't matter young or old. Everyone is resonating. 0:21:35.280 --> 0:21:38.840 My kids saw it and they were inspired. A lot 0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:41.040 of folks they watched the movie, they said, Man, I'm 0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:42.720 gonna go back to the office. I need to work 0:21:42.720 --> 0:21:45.639 a little harder. Uh some people hit me and go, 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:47.280 you know what, I need to be a little more 0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:50.239 generous that I'm being with people who are coming up 0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:53.880 behind me. I need to help more. So it's it's 0:21:53.960 --> 0:21:59.399 transforming people. Uh So I'm really grateful that the movie 0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:01.920 is having the impact that it is. I want to 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:03.520 I know, we've got two minutes left in this interview, 0:22:03.800 --> 0:22:06.879 and I just got to talk about the CP Image 0:22:06.920 --> 0:22:10.399 Awards UM which has become the award show that it 0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:14.639 always uh should have been. Is it recognizes Anthony Anderson 0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:17.080 has been Anthony Anderson has been amazed as the host. 0:22:17.440 --> 0:22:19.560 What do you feel that you brought to the table 0:22:19.640 --> 0:22:22.600 that now makes this show they must see it, must 0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:27.360 attend show, must attend show. Well, Well, well, thank you. 0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:30.200 I mean, you know, we worked hard on a couple 0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:33.560 of things. One is we wanted to make sure the 0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:37.919 full range of black Hollywood was represented, you know, not 0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:41.040 just your friends, but you know, okay, here's an exciting 0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:43.959 new voice. Well let's make sure we honor the legends, 0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:46.800 make sure we you know, folks who are working in 0:22:47.080 --> 0:22:50.600 unusual parts of entertainment for black folks. We want to 0:22:50.600 --> 0:22:54.320 make sure everybody's represented. And then the second thing is 0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:58.200 and we you know, and you know, our our black 0:22:58.240 --> 0:23:01.159 talent are Latin, are at in town on our Asian 0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:05.000 talent are white allies. They're all are welcome. You know. 0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:07.960 We make sure the show starts sometime and then sometimes 0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:11.600 the live show. Everyone knows. We handle our business like 0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:18.680 it's no CPT, it is JPT. And and and then 0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:21.720 the last part is we try to keep up in 0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:24.960 the production values a little more every year. How can 0:23:25.000 --> 0:23:27.520