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Speaker 2: What's kind of interesting is Garrett I've been friends for

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Speaker 2: I think about the sovereign individual thesis, right, it's a

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Speaker 2: little bit different than what you're proposing, and it's more

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Speaker 2: based upon competition and game theory than just outright non

436
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Speaker 2: compliance and revolution. Right where it's like you mentioned, like

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Speaker 2: go just go to El Salvador for example. So we

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Speaker 2: see El Salvador. We've seen Russia do this. People trolled

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Speaker 2: me online when I mentioned Russia, but it's not about Russia.

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Speaker 2: It's about the trend where we're starting to see nations

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Speaker 2: starting to compete for citizens. So El Salvador did it,

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Speaker 2: Like I said, Russia did it where they're like, hey,

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Speaker 2: if you're like a high level philosopher, business person, code

444
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Speaker 2: or engineer, we'll give you citizenship, come here, right. And

445
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Speaker 2: so what happens when you get a country that is

446
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Speaker 2: purposely trying to steal and hold you down or back

447
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Speaker 2: or whatever it is that you don't like about it,

448
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 2: and then you have another country over here that's trying

449
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Speaker 2: to attract the very best people, and so then it

450
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Speaker 2: creates this power dynamic or a competition dynamic, and whether

451
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Speaker 2: people want to admit it or not, we're all competitive people.

452
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Speaker 2: Investors are competitive, hedge funds are invested competitive businesses are competitive,

453
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Speaker 2: and so our nation states as well. And so what

454
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Speaker 2: happens when I can just pack up from whatever countrymen

455
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Speaker 2: in the US and go to another country that I

456
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Speaker 2: want to go into. Now, in the old days, back

457
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Speaker 2: to the industrial age, I can't just move my factory, right,

458
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Speaker 2: I can't just move my apartment downtown. And in a

459
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Speaker 2: lot of cases, some of my best friends growing up

460
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Speaker 2: were from South Africa, and when they fled South Africa,

461
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Speaker 2: they couldn't even get their money out of the banks.

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Speaker 2: Crypto ran I did a show with him and he

463
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Speaker 2: was talking about how his family when they fled, they

464
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Speaker 2: fled to South Africa. His father had melted down all

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Speaker 2: their gold and had put it all into like one

466
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Speaker 2: big container, like a barrel. And when they showed up

467
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Speaker 2: to the plane to be evacked out. I think they

468
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Speaker 2: were evacuing out of Iran. You can fact check me

469
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Speaker 2: on that, but they were evacuing out and he showed

470
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Speaker 2: up with the gold and like, hey, you can't take

471
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Speaker 2: that with you, And he's like, what do you mean

472
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Speaker 2: it's our life savings. And he said, well, you either

473
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Speaker 2: stay here with it or you leave it. And they

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Speaker 2: left it, and he said they had to live in

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Speaker 2: tents for three years, right, And so anyway, I can't

476
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Speaker 2: take my gold, I can't take my factory, you can't

477
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Speaker 2: take my real estate. But in a world where I

478
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Speaker 2: can transport my energy anywhere I want, then it really

479
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Speaker 2: starts to accelerate the game theory, if you will. And

480
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Speaker 2: so maybe there are some people that agree with you

481
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Speaker 2: and are like, no, I'm just not going to do it,

482
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Speaker 2: and if you want to put me in jail, then

483
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Speaker 2: then so be it. There's too many of us who

484
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Speaker 2: can't do it to all of us. And some people

485
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Speaker 2: were just like, well, I'll just go where my where

486
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Speaker 2: go where I'm treated best. And I think that's another

487
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Speaker 2: way to affect that. I think we can see that.

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Speaker 1: It's a blend for sure, Like you know, you can

489
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Speaker 1: do you can take whatever tactic you want. But I

490
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Speaker 1: think at the end of the day, this technology allows

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Speaker 1: a mass exodus of people to do that, right, Because

492
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Speaker 1: if they can't control the people anymore and people start

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Speaker 1: doing this at at at scale, they're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: do what you just said, They're gonna have to then

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Speaker 1: compete to get these people back, right, But like one

496
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Speaker 1: has to come before the other, right, Like they're you're

497
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Speaker 1: not just gonna comply your way and be like, oh,

498
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Speaker 1: like we're gonna come and compete for you to stay here.

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Speaker 1: Please don't go. You know, there has to be some

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Speaker 1: kind of actual, you know, separation from I believe this,

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Speaker 1: you know, current situation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in regards to your statement you made about the

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Speaker 2: government not really needing their taxes and not going to

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Speaker 2: our own personal goods, so to speak. In twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 2: the government collected two point one eight trillion dollars of

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Speaker 2: income taxes. Year to date twenty twenty four, the government

507
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Speaker 2: has already spent more than two trillion dollars that they

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Speaker 2: brought than they brought in. So basically to kind of

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Speaker 2: add on to your point, dount of income tax they receive,

510
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Speaker 2: they've already spent more than that in debt this year,

511
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Speaker 2: and so do they need our income? I put something

512
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Speaker 2: on Twitter the other day talking about how really taxes

513
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Speaker 2: and the talk that I gave in Australia was about

514
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Speaker 2: how the game is rigged, the game of money and

515
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Speaker 2: it's rigged. So we stay in the game, and so

516
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Speaker 2: taxes take half our wealth. Whatever wealth we managed to

517
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Speaker 2: keep after that gets eroded by inflation, and then whatever

518
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Speaker 2: money we have after that, maybe we put into Wall

519
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Speaker 2: Street and they siphon off the rest, right, and so

520
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Speaker 2: it's sort of that game. But yeah, so they don't

521
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Speaker 2: really need it now. I mean, this is a super

522
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Speaker 2: interesting concept. I love the idea of the sovereign individual

523
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Speaker 2: and being able to move on more about competition than

524
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Speaker 2: just outright revolutionary. But either way, it's a revolution. And

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Speaker 2: when we think about how technology changes the world, it

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Speaker 2: changes the balance of power. So at the intro I

527
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Speaker 2: referenced about five hundred years ago was the Protestant Reformation,

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Speaker 2: which is really technology the printing press, which released information.

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Speaker 2: But really there was something else that was going on

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Speaker 2: at the same time too, and that was the gunpowder Revolution.

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Speaker 2: And so the gunpowder then also change the balance of power.

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Speaker 2: Right where you had a knight who could fight off

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Speaker 2: one hundred peasants or serfs from a horse, also now

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Speaker 2: one peasant or serf could have a gun and take

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Speaker 2: out one hundred nights, And so that's also sort of

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Speaker 2: what I think is happening where it's changing the balance

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Speaker 2: of power. Because to the point I think that you're

538
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Speaker 2: making is these governments have had complete control monopoly over money,

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Speaker 2: so they have all the power and it's all in

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Speaker 2: their system. So like Russia found out the hard way

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Speaker 2: that they could just lose all their money at one time.

542
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Speaker 2: But when I can hold my wealth in a way,

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Speaker 2: they can't just confiscate and steal at the click of

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Speaker 2: a button. You know, there's the wrench attack or whatever.

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Speaker 2: But then it changes the balance of power. And when

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Speaker 2: it changes the balance of power, then what starts to happen.

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Speaker 1: Well, well, let's go back to gunpowder, right, how long

548
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Speaker 1: was gunpowder around before people actually realized it could be

549
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Speaker 1: used in war or as a weapon. I was used

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Speaker 1: for medicine, was used for all these different things. But

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Speaker 1: it took like I think a few hundred years for

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Speaker 1: people to actually realize they could use gunpowder to project power, right,

553
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: inflict major damage upon their enemy. And I like to

554
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Speaker 1: look at bitcoin from a military perspective. I'm not I

555
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 1: was never in the service, right, I'm a big proponent

556
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Speaker 1: of software, Jason load of software. So I like to

557
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Speaker 1: literally think of bitcoin as a weapon, as like the

558
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Speaker 1: perfect weapon for humanity. Because if you think of military tactics, right,

559
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Speaker 1: by the way, all of our military aren't bad people.

560
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Speaker 1: We know there's a military industrial complex, but we also

561
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Speaker 1: know there's some very smart, bright individuals that are patriots

562
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Speaker 1: that are in our military that are literally help us.

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Speaker 2: I was born into an air Force family. That's my

564
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Speaker 2: father's a VET, my father in law's a VET, my

565
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: grandfather's are vets.

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Speaker 1: So certainly not right. And so we have absolute patriots

567
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Speaker 1: that want what's best. They don't like seeing their sons

568
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Speaker 1: and daughters going off to war to fight wars in

569
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Speaker 1: other countries that you know, we can't even point to

570
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Speaker 1: on a map. And so how was the military going

571
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Speaker 1: to change itself to possibly maneuver, right, because this is

572
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Speaker 1: kind of maneuver warfare, to give the people a battlefield

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Speaker 1: to where they could invite the fight, right, Like a

574
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Speaker 1: lot of are inviting the fight, Like, come on, you

575
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: want to fight us on our territory, Come on and

576
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: try to fight us on our territory, right, Like you're

577
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: gonna what You're gonna have to buy bitcoin, You're gonna

578
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: have to like actually back at the dollar with it.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna actually force incentives upon your own infrastructure, like

580
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Speaker 1: every scenario that in that case actually leads to them

581
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Speaker 1: losing at the end of the day. And so back

582
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Speaker 1: to what this means, right in warfare tactics, you have

583
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Speaker 1: a population right that has been kind of like it's

584
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: been domesticated for a very very long time. We're like

585
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 1: petulant children that when we get upset at something, we'll

586
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: like go rant about it online. We'll like yell and

587
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: scream out, my god, they did this and that. And

588
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,479
Speaker 1: then what do you do next day? You go back down,

589
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: You forget about it. You watch football. You know, you're

590
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: drinking beers and you're like, oh, I got to pay

591
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: this tax. I'm just paying. There's nothing I can do, okay.

592
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Speaker 1: And what this is is like a call of the alpha.

593
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: It's like a wake up of Alpha DNA, Like, hey,

594
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: these people are going to come and kill you. They're

595
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 1: going to come and steal all of your energy. But

596
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: there is this technology over here that you as the individual,

597
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: can pick up store your own well self custodial bitcoin,

598
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: and you can just opt out. You can still continue

599
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: to watch your football, drink bears, but you can literally

600
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: arm yourself as a digital citizen in a digital sovereign

601
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: in cyberspace to where you no longer allow that enemy

602
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,479
Speaker 1: to continually exploit you, right, because they're exploiting you at

603
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: every level, through through permissioned certificates, licenses, taxation, I mean

604
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: every level. What do don't you need a permission for

605
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: these days? And if we if we keep pulling those threads,

606
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: we get to five general fifth generation warfare okay, which

607
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,959
Speaker 1: was a doctrine put out by the military, you know,

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Speaker 1: twenty or so years ago that talked about non kinetic

609
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Speaker 1: ways to project power, right, peaceful ways to you know,

610
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Speaker 1: shift the legitimacy of the current perception okay, of of

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Speaker 1: of populace. Okay, So psychological war psychological warfare, right scims.

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Speaker 2: So Gen one was mono imano, I'll fight you, you

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Speaker 2: fight me. Gen two was organized militaries, My military fight

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Speaker 2: you're a military. H. Third Gen warfare was if I

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Speaker 2: get to stright, correct if I'm wrong. Third Gen was

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Speaker 2: like industrialized warfare, so carriers, ships, planes, World War one,

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Speaker 2: World War two. Gen four warfare was then like guerrilla

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Speaker 2: warfare and I think maneuver terrorism, right, uh. And then

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Speaker 2: fifth gen is what you're talking about now. Interesting tidbit

620
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Speaker 2: about that is the US has never won a war

621
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Speaker 2: since fourth generation on right, So we won obviously in

622
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Speaker 2: third generation, we haven't been able to win in fourth

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Speaker 2: The interesting thing about the fourth generation warfare being like

624
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Speaker 2: guerrilla warfare terrorism sort of sort of thing, is that

625
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Speaker 2: there's really no way to win that because in terrorism

626
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Speaker 2: it's it's a it's an ideology and not an organized army,

627
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Speaker 2: so like there's no head of the snake to cut off,

628
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Speaker 2: so to speak. Right, each of these l's sort of

629
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Speaker 2: like operate independently but on a shared ideology. And then anyway,

630
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Speaker 2: so now going into fifth generation warfare, now it's really

631
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Speaker 2: about psychological warfare. The way I had to explained to

632
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Speaker 2: me was like you can feel the pressure and the attack,

633
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Speaker 2: but you're not sure where it's coming from. So it's

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Speaker 2: not just psychological warfare.

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Speaker 3: But it's it's it's disinformation.

636
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Speaker 2: It's it's disinformation.

637
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can't tell what's real.

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Speaker 1: And so what's funny now, I think is that you know,

639
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Speaker 1: the conspiracy theorists of old right are kind of like

640
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Speaker 1: the new conspiracy theorists or like it's been actually it's

641
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: been flipped, right, So I think now we see people

642
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: walking around with masks and they look like complete lunatics.

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Speaker 3: Right, because we all we were all.

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Speaker 1: The ones about talking about, you know, hey, the federal

645
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Speaker 1: reserves corrupt, like there's a military industrial complex nine to

646
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Speaker 1: eleven JFK assassination, where all the crazy conspiracy theorists. But

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Speaker 1: now we've kind of flipped those conspiracies on their head

648
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Speaker 1: to where a lot of this seems to be true.

649
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Speaker 1: We got multiple Trump shooters, we have you know, the

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Speaker 1: these false flag bombing events that happened, we had the

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Speaker 1: pull out of Afghanistan, You've got you know, the the pandemic,

652
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Speaker 1: and then you have people now that are like walking

653
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Speaker 1: around and so the syops are work on both sides,

654
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Speaker 1: and so the entire world basically shut down for a

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Speaker 1: you know, for a pandemic. And what happened, right where

656
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Speaker 1: did they have military guys that everybody's house forcing me.

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Speaker 3: To do things.

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Speaker 1: No, it was through the television to where they warped

659
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Speaker 1: everybody's mind. They memetically like engineered people to be like, no,

660
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Speaker 1: this is what we have to do, this is what

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Speaker 1: we have to do. And it was a very small

662
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Speaker 1: minority that actually stood up to that. But on the

663
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Speaker 1: opposite side of that. What it caused was it caused

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Speaker 1: I think people to be like, whoa, whoa, this is

665
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Speaker 1: this is levels that way too far. We've gone way

666
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: too far over this stuff. And so I think that alpha,

667
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Speaker 1: that called the alpha, is what's been awakened. But as

668
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Speaker 1: part of that, when you mentioned your you know, the

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Speaker 1: terrorism and all that sort of thing, that's that's technically insurgency, okay,

670
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Speaker 1: So we actually labeled that stuff. We label it insurgency

671
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Speaker 1: and insurgency defined by the CIA and some of the

672
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Speaker 1: government documents. Part of insurgency is actually shadow government, okay,

673
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Speaker 1: to where the levers of power are not actually done

674
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Speaker 1: by the politicians that we think we elect, but by

675
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Speaker 1: some other more powerful individuals like maybe banks or that

676
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Speaker 1: sort of thing. To where the man behind the curtain,

677
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Speaker 1: right is actually pulling the levers of power, not the

678
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Speaker 1: people that we entrust to this thing. And so wh

679
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Speaker 1: where where you going with this?

680
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Speaker 3: Ye? Where you going with this? Well?

681
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Speaker 1: Funny enough, right, this is where were gonna get into counterinsurgency, okay,

682
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Speaker 1: Because I look at our conflict that we're now in

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Speaker 1: as as sapiens as humans, we're in this battle of

684
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Speaker 1: insurgency versus counterinsurgency. Okay, So insurgency, as we're talking about

685
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: over here, is this shadow government, small people, small group

686
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Speaker 1: of people in power that are doing things like terrorism

687
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Speaker 1: and stuff to to instill fear, right in each of each.

688
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: Color revolutions, psychological.

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Speaker 1: Right, whether it's real or not. Right, there's it's on

690
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Speaker 1: the TV, and it's it's there to make you make

691
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Speaker 1: you scared. And then you have counterinsurgency. And what is counterinsurgency, well,

692
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Speaker 1: count insurgency is defined as a military and civilian effort

693
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: taken to simultaneously defeat and contain insurgency and its root

694
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: causes okay, military civilian cooperation to actually defeat insurgency, okay.

695
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: And so really what we have as a battle of legitimacy, okay,

696
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: because the propaganda is trying to tell you this is legitimate,

697
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: these people are in power, this is this is what's happening, right,

698
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: And then we as a counter sert to be like, well,

699
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Speaker 1: you're telling me all this stuff, but like in the

700
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Speaker 1: real world, none of that matters to me or is

701
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: actually happening in my world, Like that's not real, right,

702
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: And so you get disinformation versus what's real. And so

703
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Speaker 1: we write as a counter insurgence. Are that that's civilian uprising,

704
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Speaker 1: the peaceful revolution? To tell you, look, bitcoin is legitimate.

705
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,959
Speaker 1: I can go to a computer screen and I can

706
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Speaker 1: verify you know, how many blocks have been made, how

707
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: many how many coins are on the network where I

708
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: can't verify anything on your network?

709
00:33:58,480 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 2: Right?

710
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Speaker 1: And so how am I supposed to be legitimize your

711
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Speaker 1: network when I can't verify anything? And so if you

712
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: get to this legitimacy aspect, you get to consent, okay,

713
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: because if I don't consent to your abstract power, I

714
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Speaker 1: am delegitimizing your power.

715
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: And Americans, let's just say we are we were born

717
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Speaker 1: and bred as insurrectionists from seventeen seventy six. Right, we

718
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Speaker 1: have an absolute defiance to abstract power. We fought a

719
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Speaker 1: revolution over it. It's in our DNA, it's literally in

720
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Speaker 1: our blood. And so right now we're dealing with a

721
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Speaker 1: you know, dementia patient in the White House who is

722
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Speaker 1: enacting things against the populace that are they real? Do

723
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Speaker 1: you really have to comply? And I think that's why

724
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: we need to stand up and we have now a solution.

725
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Speaker 1: We have a technology where we can collectively stand up.

726
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Speaker 1: I can fight with someone in another country and we

727
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: don't even have to know each other, and we're decentralized,

728
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: we're in cyberspace. But guess what if they go attack

729
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: that individual, the entire network protects him and it protects me. Right,

730
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Speaker 1: I'm able to use the entire collective collaboration of the

731
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Speaker 1: miners to protect each one of our energy that is

732
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Speaker 1: encapsulated in this thermodynamically sound system. And so I just

733
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Speaker 1: think it's fascinating because so many I think bitcoiners or

734
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 1: people looking to buy bitcoin look at it from purely

735
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 1: a way to hedge inflation, purely like a new stock

736
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Speaker 1: or a new technology. When if I think you look

737
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: at it from a military perspective, you look at it

738
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Speaker 1: as a weapon. It actually empowers individuals to settle disputes

739
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 1: right in a non kinetic way. But also it allows

740
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: you to project power. It allows you to say, you

741
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: know what, I don't have to trust that you're going

742
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Speaker 1: to like not tax me.

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Speaker 3: I can just say no at the end of the day.

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Speaker 2: All right, Now, while we're talking about bitcoin in the

745
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 2: future of the financial system, I want to make sure

746
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Speaker 2: you secure it properly. Millions of bitcoin have been lost

747
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Speaker 2: myself personally has lost a lot of bitcoin, maybe worth

748
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 2: millions of dollars in today's dollars. And so I've learned

749
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Speaker 2: the hard way that I want to secure it with

750
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Speaker 2: a hardware wallet like this. Keep your private key safe.

751
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: This is a Treasure hardware wallet. You plug it in

752
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: and you do your transaction and you unplug it. Don't

753
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: leave it on exchange. I've lost it that way. Don't

754
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 2: leave your bitcoin on a phone. I've lost it that

755
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 2: way as well. Secure it with a hardware wallet like Treasure.

756
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Speaker 2: I've used it for over a decade. I think it's

757
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Speaker 2: the easiest one to use. It's open source hardware, so

758
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 2: you don't have to worry about some backdoor and someone

759
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 2: rug pulling you and taking your bitcoin. That's why I

760
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: like the Treasure, and it's pretty cheap. And if you'd

761
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Speaker 2: like to save even more money, there's a link in

762
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Speaker 2: the description down below that you can save some money

763
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Speaker 2: with it. But look, whether you use a Treasure or not,

764
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Speaker 2: use something, don't leave your bitcoin on the exchange or

765
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 2: at risk of getting hacked off of your phone. Secure

766
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Speaker 2: with a hard wallet like this Treasure. There's a link

767
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Speaker 2: down below. I've always thought that maybe a better way

768
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Speaker 2: to look at it was not as a weapon but

769
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Speaker 2: as a shield, which are not really the same. Maybe

770
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 2: they are, and it depends on how broad you want

771
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Speaker 2: to have that definition. You would use a weapon like

772
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Speaker 2: a sword and a shield together. But they're used for

773
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Speaker 2: two different purposes, ones for protecting and ones for one's

774
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 2: offense one's defense, so to speak. You can call them

775
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: both weapons, like I said, they're both used.

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Speaker 1: In warfactive or passive, right, I mean, one is, you know,

777
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Speaker 1: but I like to.

778
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Speaker 2: Think of it more as protecting as opposed to, you know,

779
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 2: a defensive weapon as opposed to an offensive weapon, so

780
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 2: to speak. But you know, one thing that I'm thinking

781
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 2: as you're talking through that is that we're talking a

782
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 2: lot about revolutions and wars and pushing back against you know,

783
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 2: powers that get too big, so to speak. But when

784
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: you think about as I kind of framed out earlier

785
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Speaker 2: with the gunpowder Revolution, like sort of changing the balance

786
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 2: of power. And you talked earlier about like a war

787
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: and solving disputes, right, Like, most wars have been fought

788
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: over resources. So if I come and conquer you, I

789
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 2: get your resources, I get your gold, I get your goats,

790
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 2: I get your wheat or whatever it is. But when

791
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 2: you have resources like bitcoin that are digital that can't

792
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 2: be co opted, you can kill me, but you can't

793
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 2: take it kind of a thing. Right, then what does

794
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: that do to the incentive structure behind the war? Right,

795
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 2: So it's like it doesn't take take the place. I mean,

796
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 2: we're always gonna need oil and we're still gonna need

797
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: to grow food, So it doesn't take the place of

798
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 2: the need for the natural resources. But if the majority

799
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 2: of the world were worth so a lot of those

800
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 2: natural resources have sort of been demonetized a little bit, right,

801
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: because maybe bitcoin is built up valuation and we don't

802
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 2: really need that wealth. All the wealth is now digital.

803
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: I mean, how does that change in the centsra structures?

804
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: And maybe it starts to shift the again the power

805
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 2: balance here, and maybe there's not a need for all

806
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 2: this urgency insurgency war kind of revolution talk.

807
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it changes incentives at the base level. Right,

808
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: will the incentives change before? Right, we get to a

809
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: precipice for humanity to where you know, what if you know,

810
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: what if the perception of the upcoming election, Right, what

811
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: if the winner is not the actual perceived winner right, Like,

812
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: what if something happens to where a majority think it

813
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: was maybe rigged. You know, I think that's a real

814
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 1: concern that people should have to where it's like, well,

815
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: we've tried to play by the role, we've done everything

816
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: we can. We've you know, we've played it out to

817
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: the to the final degree. And then if if if

818
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: we do right, what what talks about is is insurgency

819
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Speaker 1: count insurgency digital seventeen seventy six, and they continually, right

820
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: are sending weapons to other countries to bomb other countries

821
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Speaker 1: and destroy those countries. I think people need to need

822
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: to have a morality line too, Like if you are

823
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: continually going to support the funding of terrorism abroad, I

824
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: mean that's what we do to some degree, then like

825
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Speaker 1: you're aiding and abetting a criminal enterprise, okay, And so

826
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Speaker 1: if we're able to actually delegitimize their power the federal reserve, Right,

827
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Speaker 1: if the bureaucracy in Washington is paid in an inferior currency, okay,

828
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Speaker 1: that the swamp drains itself. Right, Like imagine if you

829
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: if you took the enemy's inner source away from them,

830
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Speaker 1: which is which is the money printer, and they could

831
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Speaker 1: no longer pay all these bureaucrats for every little pet

832
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Speaker 1: project and war and propaganda arm that they wanted to do. Like,

833
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Speaker 1: that's how you actually drain the swamp, because no one

834
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Speaker 1: is going to like congressmen are going to have to

835
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: learn how to code, right, Like they're going to have

836
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Speaker 1: to actually learn how to produce something of value to

837
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Speaker 1: get value in return. No longer can they rent seek

838
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Speaker 1: off of just taking from us. And I think what

839
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Speaker 1: it does it forces people to actually provide that proof

840
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: of work. Like you can no longer get the free ride, bro.

841
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 1: So if you can no longer get a free ride,

842
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: what does that mean for the congressman? What does that

843
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: mean for the individual? But yeah, I don't know what

844
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Speaker 1: that transition.

845
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Speaker 3: Totally looks like.

846
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Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's still I think there's still

847
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Speaker 1: some cards to be played with with the election and

848
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Speaker 1: with what's going to happen with bricks. There's so many

849
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Speaker 1: different players on the board right now. It's it's it's

850
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Speaker 1: it's an interesting time to be alive. I'll say that much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to ask you for more questions on

852
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Speaker 2: the fifth generation of warfare, and then I want to

853
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Speaker 2: get into Satoshinaka mode. Because I know you have some

854
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: interesting thoughts there that you and I haven't had a

855
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 2: chance to discuss. So I want to talk about stok moot.

856
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Speaker 2: And there was just that documentary that came out I

857
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Speaker 2: think on HBO about that. I haven't got a chance

858
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 2: to see it yet. But back to fifth generational warfare,

859
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Speaker 2: psychological warfare, disinformation, if you will, I'm curious your thoughts

860
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 2: on how do we as individuals, as citizens, how do

861
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 2: we navigate that and protect ourselves? Like the old world

862
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 2: seemed like the problem was how do I get the information? Today?

863
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: I have too much information, so the skill sets have

864
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 2: most likely changed. But one thing that I've seen is

865
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: like it's a cognitive dissidence, and if I believe that

866
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 2: to be true, everything else I know has to be false.

867
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 2: And so I see, seemingly maybe a mistake a lot

868
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 2: of people who once they start to see these conspiracies

869
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 2: being true, then everything's a conspiracy, and then they go

870
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 2: too far the other way. And there's certainly people on

871
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 2: both sides of this, right, people that just believe everything

872
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 2: on TV and people who think everything's a psyop. And

873
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 2: usually it's probably something in the middle. So I'm curious

874
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 2: kind of how you think through that, how do you

875
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 2: protect yourself from that, how do you navigate that? How

876
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: do you find truth? And things like that.

877
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great question actually, because I've always wanted

878
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: how I get to where I'm at at certain points,

879
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: And honestly, the best answer I have for that is

880
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: have a lot of different people that have different opinions,

881
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: Like you don't always have to surround yourself with everybody

882
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: that thinks the same way as you. So I have

883
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,400
Speaker 1: liberal friends, right, I have conservative friends, I have libertarian friends,

884
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: I have military friends, and so I try to get

885
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: all their perspectives and I try to build my own

886
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: mosaic based on intuition and based on what I think

887
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: is best in the harmonics of natural law, right, Like,

888
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: and I also try to take take anything that any

889
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: professional organization at some level and just completely ignore it,

890
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 1: Like take everything you've known and just try to ignore

891
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: it and try to start fresh. And that's not really

892
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: easy to do. But like, how many times have we

893
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: heard mark that eating red meat is bad for you?

894
00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 3: Right?

895
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: How many times have we heard that eating butter and

896
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: salt is bad for you?

897
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: Right?

898
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: And you know that's now, that's like kind of like

899
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: not true low fat is good for you. No fat

900
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: is good for you, right, and so we need cholesterol

901
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: and so you know, it's kind of a hard but

902
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: sometimes you just got to reset, you know.

903
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 3: And I've tried to reset.

904
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: I've done things like fasting, doing things to where it's

905
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: the old world stuff where they used to fast for

906
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 1: a few days and then you know, eat eat raw

907
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 1: food or that that sort of thing. So I think

908
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: like honestly surrounding yourself with the most diverse group of

909
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: friends you could find and then building your own mosaic

910
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: inside of that, I think is probably the best way

911
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: to do it. Because if you're surrounding yourself with just

912
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: people that think the way you do, you're not going

913
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: to ever see like what is on that other side

914
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: and what are the knowledge you could gain? And so

915
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest thing that people should do,

916
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: is surround themselves with people that have different different values

917
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: and different opinions, and that way you can learn from them.

918
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 1: Now I'm not saying, you know, if they're totally against

919
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: your values, you should hang out with them, but like,

920
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: you know, have a diverse set of friends.

921
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I would add on to that, like

922
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 2: one sort of understanding things that their base, So like

923
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: first principles level, so if you can break that complex

924
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 2: I did down to the first principal's level and then

925
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: ultimately thinking through second, third, fourth, fifth order, thinking, so,

926
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 2: welfare is great, we want to support these like single

927
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 2: mothers working from home, these people that can't get jobs, right,

928
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess that sounds like a pretty good idea.

929
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 2: But then what well, then if we provide this net

930
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 2: where people don't have to work, then people get lazy,

931
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 2: and then what well, then they breed other generations through

932
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 2: they know, and then what right? And if you think

933
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: through these things second, third, fourth, I think you get

934
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: to that as well.

935
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 3: What about.

936
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 2: In misinformation disinformation? I think many people are participating in

937
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: that without knowing it. I get sent stuff all the

938
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: time in my DMS, people's afford me videos and reels

939
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 2: and tiktoks or whatever they are, and even even people

940
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: I know like send me stuff and I'm like, I

941
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 2: can't show I don't know if that's true or not,

942
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: and like some times I'm like, well, let me do

943
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 2: my own research into it, right, And so seemingly there's

944
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff that comes across that seems very real,

945
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: but it's not. I'm just curious sort of like your

946
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: own personal philosophy on that, Like do you just like, hey,

947
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 2: this seems real to me based off of what I know,

948
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 2: let me share this, or do you like, let me

949
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 2: do a little bit of research into this, or kind

950
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 2: of how do you think through that?

951
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: I'm kind of like halfway. I try to take things

952
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: that make sense. First of all that common sense like

953
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: would this happen in a normal scenario? Right, And so

954
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: half of it it's easily thrown away. So it's like,

955
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 1: you know what, that's interesting, I'll look at it a

956
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 1: little bit, a little bit deeper. Like I was at

957
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 1: Las Vegas, right, I was in the Las Vegas shooting.

958
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: My buddy got shot in the leg, right, But I

959
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: knew the story they were telling was false. Like I

960
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 1: knew there was there.

961
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 3: I was there. I knew there wasn't.

962
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: One guy in a tower shooting the people. I knew

963
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: there was something else going on, probably multiple shooters, right,

964
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: And so I knew immediately that that was fake and

965
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: what I experienced was real. And so in trying to

966
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: decipher and discern what is real and what is not real,

967
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 1: it's not easy.

968
00:45:58,320 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 3: It's not easy at all.

969
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: A lot of it comes from like I like to

970
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: talk about mathematics. I try to bring everything back to mathematics,

971
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: which is which is bitcoin? Right, Like, if it passes

972
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: the mathematical test of being true, then it's probably true. Right,

973
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 1: So like if Sailor says something, or Trump says something,

974
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: or you know, I try to take it with a filter,

975
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: being like, Okay, this is a bitcoin guy, this is

976
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 1: a politician. Look at it from their lens. Who benefits

977
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: if this comes true? Who benefits if it doesn't come true?

978
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: But I try to game it out. I try to

979
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: money Carlos scenario everything. If it's important and I really

980
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:29,959
Speaker 1: want to be interested in it, I try to money

981
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: Carlo scenario, like, what are the benefits to me if

982
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: I if I do, you know, promote this message or

983
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: the negative effects.

984
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 3: If it's not.

985
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: Does it promote freedom, does it promote you know, sovereignty,

986
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: Does it promote good or does it promote violence? If

987
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: it promotes violence, it's it's put completely into the trash.

988
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah okay, And so I think people need to have

989
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: those basic filters up because if it's promoting something that's

990
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 1: too good to be true, if it's promoting violence, right,

991
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: those are things I think you need to immediately just

992
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 1: dismiss and just move on to the next thing, because

993
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: there are a lot of cults out there that will.

994
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 3: Get you to do stupid things.

995
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so yeah, I mean, I've been in this

996
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: information for a long time and it yeah, trust me.

997
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 2: It's yeah, because it's it's a new war, it's fifth

998
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 2: generational warfare, and it's being waged on us, the citizens, citizenry,

999
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 2: and we don't we're not equipped, We're not equipped to

1000
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: handle that well.

1001
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: And I think people need to understand what a buy

1002
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: camera vision of things are as well. Like certain things

1003
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: can be true and not true at the same time,

1004
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: but they can still lead you to a correct, you know,

1005
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: a correct like interpretation of what's happening. Right, And I

1006
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: think I think, you know, if you put those hats

1007
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: on of like I think it's something can be right

1008
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 1: and wrong at the same time. But like understanding a

1009
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: bigger picture for something is that.

1010
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 2: Like it could be good and bad at the same time.

1011
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1012
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: Like, I mean, for instance, for instance, you take like

1013
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 1: you know, like Trump, Okay, a lot of people don't

1014
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:50,959
Speaker 1: like him, some people like him. I'm a big Trump

1015
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: supporter myself, But you know, a lot of people think like, uh,

1016
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: you know, the election was right, okay, and that yeah,

1017
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: it probably was some set in some sense, it maybe was.

1018
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: But at the other thing, like maybe he allowed it

1019
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: to happen, right, Maybe he allowed it to happen to

1020
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: expose corruption, okay, And so you can have a vision

1021
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: that says says, yeah, well maybe he didn't. Maybe it

1022
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: was part of that reasoning for it was to expose

1023
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: what's happening right now because had we not known of

1024
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: the level of corruption, had maybe he.

1025
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 2: Won again, that's like that's like forty chess, yeah, forty

1026
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 2: five d chess.

1027
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: Right, But at the same time, like it's still a

1028
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: bigger vision that allows you to be like, no, he's bad,

1029
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: he's part of the deep state, like you know, and

1030
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: it's like, well, like let's let's I see that.

1031
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 2: Like I think about that like with like I think

1032
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 2: about it, like where things can be good and bad

1033
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 2: at the same time, and people can be good and

1034
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: bad at the same time. So elon Musk, right, he's

1035
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 2: standing in the face of the world for you know,

1036
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 2: an open platform to talk. But there's also a lot

1037
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 2: of things that he's done that that also do scare me. Yeah,

1038
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 2: you know Malay down in Argentina, Like he's seemingly done

1039
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 2: amazing things and he seems to be pro libertarian, and

1040
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 2: then what about the ties to the Jews, state or

1041
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: the WF or or whatever it is. And it's like, well,

1042
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 2: that could both be true. Maybe he is part of

1043
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 2: those groups, whatever those groups you think is, and he's

1044
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 2: also doing good things there and maybe ultimately he does

1045
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 2: good things that end up being bad and we'll figure

1046
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 2: that out when we get there. But like I can

1047
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 2: just be happy to accept that. And that's one thing

1048
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 2: that I see a lot. We talked before we started recording,

1049
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 2: talking about you know, old content I've done, talking about

1050
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 2: the World Docomic Forum and clos Schwab and stuff like that,

1051
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 2: and how it attracts a certain amount of people, a

1052
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 2: certain type of people who are who have this victim

1053
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 2: mentality and it's not really everybody's fault. Part of the

1054
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 2: fifth generational warfare is to demoralize people. So this has

1055
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 2: purposely been done to us, to demoralize us and put

1056
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 2: us into that woe is me? Why even try sort

1057
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 2: of a attitude. But the problem that I see is

1058
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 2: that people have become so demoralized they can't take a

1059
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 2: win no matter what. And it was like when and

1060
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 2: really this hit me across the eyes when in Mila

1061
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: one in Argentina and it was like if he lost,

1062
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 2: it was like, oh see, we're never gonna win. We're

1063
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 2: never they're never gonna let us have it. But then

1064
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 2: he did win, and it's like, oh, he's a deep state.

1065
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 2: It's like take a win man, like you know. So

1066
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 2: it's it's yeah, it's a new level of warfare that

1067
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 2: we just haven't been equipped for.

1068
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1069
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 1: And it's the same thing with that Moss Saila recently

1070
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 1: right where you know he talks about you know, being

1071
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: in bed with the banks and stuff, but also like

1072
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: self custodial big one and they all like jumped on

1073
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 1: him for that. And so look, I think you need

1074
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: to understand the bigger picture of there are certain players

1075
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 1: that are moving humanity's overtin window towards peace, freedom and sovereignty.

1076
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: And there's still have to have one step in this

1077
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: old clown world to get us there, right, like a

1078
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,959
Speaker 1: Michael Sailor, like a Javeyer and Malay, like a Donald Trump,

1079
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: to wear like an Elon Musk okay to where they're

1080
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 1: doing things that on one level may seem oh my god,

1081
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: like we're totally screwed, and then the other hand, they're

1082
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: doing something that's totally you know, freedom, sovereignty, peace, and

1083
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, well, like how do I how do I?

1084
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: You know, just you can like this and not like

1085
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: that exactly, but you can see a bigger vision I

1086
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: think moving forward, Like, what do we have now? We

1087
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 1: have completely decentralized internet in space?

1088
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1089
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 3: Okay?

1090
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: And so is that a good thing or a bad thing?

1091
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: Probably a good thing. Right, He's putting micro chips in

1092
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: people's brain.

1093
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 2: I don't like that.

1094
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: We don't maybe we don't like that, But he's also

1095
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: solving people that forever.

1096
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 2: If they could just give me Spanish man, I'd be

1097
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 2: so happy with.

1098
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 3: That, you know.

1099
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: And so I look at it from those ways. And

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00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: I also think that there's something very special about Elon

1101
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: Tesla and Trump. I think it should be noted that

1102
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: Trump's uncle was one of the first people that actually

1103
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: had access to Tesla's files back when he died, back

1104
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: in New York when he was working on the Manhattan Project, right.

1105
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 2: Not Tesla the automobile Tesla, the original inventor.

1106
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 3: Nicola Tesla correct. So John G.

1107
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: Trump, Trump's uncle actually had first access to all of

1108
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: his files. He worked for MIT, worked for the FBI,

1109
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: and he was able to get all that information whatever

1110
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: it was there. And I think some of this Tesla

1111
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: technology is literally kind of this slow role military Tesla

1112
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: te technology that's kind of been hidden from us, you know.

1113
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 1: And if we talk about like bitcoin as this global

1114
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: energy system, right because bitcoin is backed by energy, we're

1115
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: actually forcing the world to find the cheapest ways.

1116
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 3: To produce power.

1117
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: Okay, So if we if we continue down that thread

1118
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 1: of hey, everybody in the world, like, let's compete who

1119
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: can find the cheapest way to like produce power, I

1120
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: think eventually we get to like this free energy, right

1121
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 1: because if everybody's doing it, and then we have this

1122
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: global currency that everybody wants, everybody's finding the cheapest way

1123
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: to you know, you figure out maybe ColdFusion, these different

1124
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 1: things are bringing nuclear plants, but nuclear plants back online.

1125
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 1: At the end of that, like Jason Laurie said, you

1126
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: get like literally free energy after a hash war because

1127
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: everybody is going to want this very scarce digital asset

1128
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 1: that you can only get by plugging in real power

1129
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: to computers and making them run. Yeah, so there's a

1130
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: lot kind of baked into that. But I think, you know,

1131
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: people need to look at more of this forty thousand

1132
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: foot view to where we can see the good people

1133
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 1: and bad people. But like at the end of the day,

1134
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: the good people are winning. I think it's the bottom

1135
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: line there.

1136
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 2: Let's jump into a final topic. I want to talk

1137
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 2: about Satoi Nakamoto. So I know, like I said, I

1138
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 2: know you have some interesting ideas. We haven't really had

1139
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 2: a chance to talk about that or discuss it. Recently,

1140
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 2: there was a documentary that came out on HBO and

1141
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 2: they unveiled who they thought it was. I forget exactly

1142
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 2: who this. Peter Todd. Yeah, yeah, I was interviewed for

1143
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 2: a documentary about Satotion Nakamoto. I didn't have anything super

1144
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 2: interesting to say, more than anybody else has anything to say.

1145
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 2: You know, I think I think it's a good thing

1146
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 2: that we don't know whose Stasi Nakamoto is, and I

1147
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 2: hope that we never do know forty number of reasons.

1148
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 2: But let's hear your theory. Maybe have you seen the

1149
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 2: documentary first of all, Yeah, I did see the documentary.

1150
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 2: So what are your thoughts on that? Do you agree?

1151
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:45,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously, I think.

1152
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: The documentary was most most likely you know a lot

1153
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: of I mean, there were some good parts of it,

1154
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: like people that didn't know about bitcoin, it was good

1155
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: for them to learn about it. But I think at

1156
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it gave you a bad conclusion.

1157
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: Right of this this random Jude Peter Todd and funny

1158
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: enough Mark you know who. The other documentary that gentleman

1159
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 1: did was what was it about?

1160
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 3: It was about Q.

1161
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: And on it was and it said, you know, this

1162
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: documentary guy said we found the entity known as Q

1163
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: and like they were able to figure it out, which

1164
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: was also bullshit.

1165
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 3: And so yeah, I mean my kind.

1166
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 1: Of thesis on what who are they Satoshinakamoto is is

1167
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: is like a good guy military white hat operation probably

1168
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,760
Speaker 1: you know that was somewhere inside the United States military, Okay.

1169
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: And I based that on the fact that, well, every

1170
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: piece of Bitcoin's architecture is US nuclear proof military technology GPS. Right,

1171
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 1: our entire global economy runs on GPS.

1172
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 3: Okay.

1173
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 1: The time stamps are super important not only for location,

1174
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: but to keep everything in sync, right, to keep our

1175
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: supply chains and sync to keep you know, cars on

1176
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,720
Speaker 1: the road. All these different things are ran by GPS.

1177
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 1: We can do nothing without GPS. And GPS was initially

1178
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: put out, as you know, for nuclear weapons, okay, but

1179
00:54:58,200 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: that timing system has gone down to the to the

1180
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: commercial level to where everybody uses it every day. You've

1181
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: got SHOT two fifty six created by the NSA. You've

1182
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: got uh tour Browser, which is actually the created by

1183
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 1: the Navy to protect service members overseas. If you think

1184
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 1: about miners in the early days, right, people may be

1185
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 1: scared of this network. They were totally anonymous. You didn't

1186
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: know where they were, so being hidden from a digital

1187
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: footprint was important. You also have TCPIP, DARPA, right, the

1188
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 1: decentralized Internet that if something got cut off, you could

1189
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 1: still communicate with each other. And so each piece of

1190
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 1: these is actually you know, military technology. And so when

1191
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,920
Speaker 1: people say, oh, the CIA invented it, well, it's like,

1192
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: you know, and the.

1193
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 3: CIA is bad. Well okay, yeah, we'll prove it to me.

1194
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: Right, Why would they produce something that is open source

1195
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: that they don't have control over, that is completely permissionless,

1196
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: you know, and you look at the architecture, you're like, well,

1197
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:46,479
Speaker 1: that doesn't make any sense.

1198
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard people say that, well they created it

1199
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Speaker 2: just to get everybody into a CBDC and it's like,

1200
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 2: well they should have probably created something crappy. Yeah, it's

1201
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 2: a different they should have created something bad, and that's

1202
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 2: something good, you know.

1203
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: Exactly so, and I also altered into kind of the

1204
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: Q thing. Now the you thing is is this is

1205
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: this group of whatever these posts were made back in

1206
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, okay, and so these were randomized information posts.

1207
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: They were like a socratic method of just dropping information.

1208
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: And what they did was they forced people to go

1209
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: out and research stuff like that's what I went out

1210
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 1: and started researching.

1211
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 3: When I when when Vegas happened.

1212
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: I was like, this is this is false, this is false.

1213
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: But this guy is at least saying something that makes sense.

1214
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: And so what I did was, well, what anybody could

1215
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: do is actually go look at them yourself, and you

1216
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: can prove mathematically that whoever this entity was, because nobody

1217
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: knows who it was. Still the mathematical proofs inside the

1218
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: coincidences inside of those posts are mathematically impossible, just like

1219
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: your you know, your chance at guessing a Bitcoin private

1220
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: key and so what I think of bitcoin is bitcoiners

1221
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: is like mathematical maxis they know that, like this is

1222
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: based upon math. And so if I can show you

1223
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: something that is literally mathematical proven, like you can't really

1224
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 1: deny it because the mathematics is what is what's important.

1225
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: And so if you kind of combine these two anonymous entities, right,

1226
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: one was kind of built more of like a decentralization

1227
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: of the media because ninety percent of our media complex

1228
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: was like owned by you know, six different corporations who

1229
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 1: like literally spit the same message. You know, this is

1230
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 1: dangerous to our democracy. I think everybody's heard that clip.

1231
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: And so this actually forced individuals to go out and

1232
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: research a lot of these topics like Epstein Island, right,

1233
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: like big pharma, like central bankers, and then those citizen

1234
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: journalists actually put out content on Twitter. I was part

1235
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: of a group that we had over a billion hits

1236
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: a month until we all got kicked off. And so

1237
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: we decentralized truth in a way that was not possible

1238
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 1: before because of the mainstream media. Memes. Memes are so important,

1239
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: right because they cut to the truth without having to

1240
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: explain it to someone.

1241
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 3: Right.

1242
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: You see Hunter Biden with a crack pipe, like you

1243
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: don't have to know, like you explain it behind that, right,

1244
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: And so I think the military memetics, I think this

1245
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: information decentralization drop, and I think bringing in this new

1246
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 1: foundational current and are not a coincidence. And so you know,

1247
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: what does that mean? I don't really know. I just

1248
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: think that I know that there are possibly good guys

1249
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. And if you go back to counterinsurgency,

1250
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: it talks about a military and a civilian alliance.

1251
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 2: Right.

1252
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: The military is not just going to come in and

1253
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: like save everybody, like, oh hey, we're gonna come kick

1254
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: all the bad guys out. Here's your freedom back, right,

1255
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: But if you give the populace the tools to allow

1256
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: them to free themselves and maybe protect the back doors,

1257
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: like protect like civil war, protect full on thermonuclear global

1258
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: worldwide war, right, protect those like types of red lines

1259
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: to where we can like wake people up and kind

1260
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: of force them to the exit in a manageable way

1261
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: and a transition. I think it's absolutely clear that there

1262
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: is a plan behind some of this and that people

1263
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: need to actually learn about it and then take it

1264
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: by the bullhorns.

1265
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 2: So if I'm trying to understand what you're saying here,

1266
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 2: You're saying that you think Satoshinakamoto could be somebody inside

1267
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 2: like a state actor who worked for maybe one of

1268
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 2: the intelligence agencies.

1269
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: I think it could be just a couple of patriots,

1270
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: a group of patriots that put this plan.

1271
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 2: Together, like just citizens who want to remain anonymous.

1272
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 1: I think it's more like deep inside our military. Like

1273
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 1: I think there's like groups of people inside of our military,

1274
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: inside of special Forces, inside of there's a branch called

1275
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: the seven hundred and eightieth Military Intelligence Plant Branch. There's

1276
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: a couple of different branches that are kind of interesting.

1277
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: But I'm not going to like say it's a specific person.

1278
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 1: I just know that the intentions of the individuals that

1279
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: put this together were trying to usher in a new

1280
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: freedom for humanity. And it wasn't some random guyness basement, right,

1281
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: So like the technology that was the way it was built,

1282
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: you know, you kind of passes that sniff test to

1283
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: being like, hey, like there was probably something more going

1284
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: on here.

1285
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1286
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1287
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Speaker 2: You know, I've often talked about when when people say, oh,

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Speaker 2: the government's going to make it illegal, and I'm like

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Speaker 2: the government as it's as if it's a monolith, right,

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Speaker 2: as if it's not full of lots of different people

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Speaker 2: with lots of different ideologies and stuff. And I believe

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Speaker 2: there's tons of patriots that work inside the government. And

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Speaker 2: you know, there's plenty of people, certainly we know Elizabeth

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Speaker 2: Warren and Greyginz that would love to shut it down.

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Speaker 2: But there's certainly other people like Patrick McHenry, the head

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Speaker 2: of the Financial Service Commande, who runs the white Paper

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Speaker 2: in his office, right. And so I would imagine in

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Speaker 2: the CIA or the NSA or whatever agency you want

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Speaker 2: to think about, there's probably people who are oblivious to

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Speaker 2: what they're doing. Some people probably know who they're doing,

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Speaker 2: and then some people probably don't like it. They're the whistleblowers,

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Speaker 2: if you will, and there maybe would be willing to

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Speaker 2: leak some of that information. We have whistleblowers all the time,

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Speaker 2: coming up more and more often, all being prosecuted by

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Speaker 2: the way. Obama promised to not prosecute whistleblowers, but they're

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Speaker 2: all getting jail time now. But if you think about

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Speaker 2: these whistle blowers, it's sort of like if you were

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Speaker 2: in the NSA or CIA or whatever it is, maybe

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Speaker 2: the whistleblower is like, hey, I could see what's happening.

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Speaker 2: Here's a little bit of code. Yeah, and I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: leak this a little bit of code just so that

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Speaker 2: we can sort of have this life raft backdoor whatever

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Speaker 2: safety exit kind of thing. Okay, makes sense. I've often

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Speaker 2: thought that may make sense, but yeah, it doesn't help

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Speaker 2: identify who it is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think Trump was a big part of

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Speaker 1: it as well to some degree. I think if you

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Speaker 1: look back at his actions of Trump during his can

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Speaker 1: entering his presidency.

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Speaker 2: With bitcoin in two thousand and nine.

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Speaker 1: No, with bitcoin, like just the frame that Trump was

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Speaker 1: in during his tenure as president, Like he knew about bitcoin,

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Speaker 1: and he he is, I think underhandedly a bitcoin maximalist.

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Speaker 1: He just hasn't really shown it yet. But he did

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Speaker 1: things specifically to get us to where we're at today,

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Speaker 1: like hiring Brian Brooks from as chairman of the OCC right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: instituting bitcoin standard, going after Ripple, his sec went after

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Speaker 1: Ripple during the you know twenty sixteen or whatever, creating

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Speaker 1: Space force, right that allowed us to actually build this

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Speaker 1: other military branch in space, you know, that protects the networks,

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Speaker 1: that protects the ATMs, that protects GPS, and so there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of things that I think he did that

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Speaker 1: help us get to this point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, awesome. Well, we don't know who's so she is

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Speaker 2: and you'll probably never know, and I hope we don't.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna wrap it up with that. Garrett g Money,

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Speaker 2: host of the rug Pull Radio, tell us about rug

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Speaker 2: Pull Radio and however else people should catch up with you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah great, So rug Pull Radio. We're on Rumble every

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Speaker 1: Thursday night at ten thirty pm Eastern. We combine a

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Speaker 1: lot of these topics of bitcoin, Q Trump, Pepe the Frog.

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Speaker 1: We get into like some conspiracy theories, but we're a

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Speaker 1: bitcoin show. We're, you know, just talking about just a

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Speaker 1: couple of guys talking about bitcoin, what's happening in the news,

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Speaker 1: and so we like to dig inside of these different

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Speaker 1: rabbit holes to like see how far we can get

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Speaker 1: in what we can expose. Also on Twitter, x's g

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Speaker 1: Money Pepe and so Pepe the Frog is kind of

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Speaker 1: a unique thing because of the memetics behind it. And

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Speaker 1: I wrote this interesting paper called Coofefe that actually talks

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Speaker 1: about how maybe some of the numerology actually ties into

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Speaker 1: a lot of the Bitcoin protocol and part.

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Speaker 3: Of this plant.

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Speaker 1: So it's kind of a fun rabbital if you're interested.

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Speaker 2: Cool, We'll put all those links in the show notes

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Speaker 2: down below. In that, let's wrap it up.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Girl, Thanks Mark,