WEBVTT - Best NFL Week 9 Bets + Favorite Props (Ep. 23)

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everyone, Welcome back to the Betting Pros NFL podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>brought to you by bet MGM. I'm your host, Dan Harris.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find me on Twitter at Dan Harris Adi.

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<v Speaker 1>It is time to break down some of our favorite

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<v Speaker 1>and least favorite bets for the Week nine NFL slate

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<v Speaker 1>and with me to talk about it all is Rich

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan hosted the grid Iron Gamble podcast. You can find

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<v Speaker 1>Rich on Twitter at rich t Ryan Rich. You and

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<v Speaker 1>I spoke all the way back in Week four, I believe,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's been a while. How you doing doing great?

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<v Speaker 2>We're here on the eve of Halloween, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>most fun holidays here in the United States, where even

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<v Speaker 2>adults get to dress up in costumes and walk around

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<v Speaker 2>the neighborhood and you.

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<v Speaker 1>Get dressed up, Rich, That's what I think the listeners want.

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<v Speaker 2>Know. Unfortunately, I do not. I don't work in a

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<v Speaker 2>traditional environment anywhere anymore where I go into an office

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<v Speaker 2>and there might be like an office party. I work

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<v Speaker 2>remotely and with a small team, so unfortunately I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have that avenue with which to have a Halloween party.

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<v Speaker 2>But I definitely am yearning to be a child again

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<v Speaker 2>and get dressed up.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you have children of your own rich I

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<v Speaker 1>do not not. Yes, So let me just give you

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<v Speaker 1>a very quick preview before we get into the show

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<v Speaker 1>of what is going to be like. At some point,

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<v Speaker 1>your Halloween will no longer be dominated by like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>do I wear a costume or not? Your Halloween will

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<v Speaker 1>be dominated by the forecast says it's supposed to rain.

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<v Speaker 1>Is our small suburban town going to cancel trick or

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<v Speaker 1>trening entirely because of the rain? Or is it not?

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<v Speaker 1>And how are we supposed to deal with that? That

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<v Speaker 1>is what I have been dealing with for the last

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<v Speaker 1>four hours.

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<v Speaker 2>So doesn't Halloween now have like a set time, like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>this is when treating happens from the five to seven thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>Five to seven thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a narrow window to get canned, it really is.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you ring a bell before them, they will

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<v Speaker 1>yell at you and say it has not started yet,

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<v Speaker 1>even no matter how c how cute your kids look.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, we could talk about Halloween forever, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think people probably we want to hear about some gambling advice,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's do that before we get into it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do some full disclosure. As always, I missed hard

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<v Speaker 1>on the Panthers getting six from the forty nine ers

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<v Speaker 1>last week, and I missed not as hard but still

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<v Speaker 1>hard on the Chiefs getting three and a half from

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers last week. I did hit on the Bears

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<v Speaker 1>and the Chargers under forty as well as Deontay Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>over seventy five receiving yards at plus one ninety. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's the fourth straight game that I hit on

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<v Speaker 1>my top prop, so I'm gonna get a little bolder

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<v Speaker 1>this week now. Our guest Ian McMillan had a good week,

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<v Speaker 1>hitting on the Eagles plus one and a half against

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<v Speaker 1>the Bills and the Broncos getting five and a half

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<v Speaker 1>from the Colts, as well as his top prop of

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Jones over seventy five yards, which he basically doubled.

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<v Speaker 1>His only miss was the Jets and Jaguars under forty one,

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<v Speaker 1>and as a jetsman, I will take full responsibility for that.

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<v Speaker 1>So not the worst week overall, but we can do better.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich Now you're gonna hear us make a few picks

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, But if you want to see more

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<v Speaker 1>of my picks, or more of any sports betting experts picks,

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<v Speaker 1>just go to Beddingpros dot com. You can see who's

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<v Speaker 1>picking any game. You'll see experts giving notes on their picks.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see how only the most accurate experts are picking. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>it does all the work for you. Also, Rich and

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<v Speaker 1>I are going to be using the Betting Pros dot

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<v Speaker 1>Com consensus ods, which are the aggregate odds available in

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<v Speaker 1>the market. So, as always, we're going to get started

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<v Speaker 1>with pick six, where both Rich and I are going

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<v Speaker 1>to give three of our favorite bets for this weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>either against the spread or on the over, on or

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Rich, I've talked enough, start us off what

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<v Speaker 1>you got.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's start in the Northeast with a team that your

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<v Speaker 2>guest ian faded last week, and I guess we're fading

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<v Speaker 2>them again. I've got Washington plus ten against those pesky Bills,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is a great number if you can get

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<v Speaker 2>it at ten. I am seeing it across the board

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<v Speaker 2>on the Betting Pros against the spread portal, but nine

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<v Speaker 2>and a half elsewhere. So if you can get ten,

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<v Speaker 2>I suggest you run, don't walk to the window, to

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<v Speaker 2>take this number. Games like this are very interesting when

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<v Speaker 2>there is a high spread and a low total. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>this decade. When the total is below forty and the

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<v Speaker 2>dog is getting between ten and fourteen points, they're covering

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<v Speaker 2>at a fifty nine percent clip. And it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>If you've got two really grindy teams that are supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to play a low scoring game, how do you expect

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<v Speaker 2>one team to get out ahead and extend the lead

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<v Speaker 2>enough to cover such a large number. In addition to that,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you squint, are these teams that much different?

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<v Speaker 2>The Bills are definitely more talented, but Football Outsiders has

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<v Speaker 2>these two teams extremely close and overall efficiency, the Bills

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<v Speaker 2>at twenty fifth and the Washington around there as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Washington football team. They're bad, of course, but

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<v Speaker 2>they're a professional team. If you look at that Vikings game,

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't lay down like the Bengals or the Dolphins.

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<v Speaker 2>They competed the entire game. Bill Callahan wants to run

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<v Speaker 2>the ball, which is great in a scenario like this

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<v Speaker 2>because it limits the amount of possessions. It limits the

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<v Speaker 2>amount of opportunities for the Bills to get the ball

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<v Speaker 2>and score. So this is just way too many points

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<v Speaker 2>for a Bills team that doesn't stretch the field vertically

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<v Speaker 2>and kind of wants to play a grindy, low pace,

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<v Speaker 2>low scoring game. So give me the Washington professional football

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<v Speaker 2>team getting ten points.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So here's what I'm gonna say about it.

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<v Speaker 2>You may we're gonna say Dwayne Haskins that that is

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what I'm going to exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So first of all, and correct me if I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had a busy day, so I have not seen

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<v Speaker 1>it yet. Last I saw Keenum was still in the

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<v Speaker 1>concussion protocol. Do you have any update on that? Is

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<v Speaker 1>he out of it yet? I have not seen it

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<v Speaker 1>because he had not practice.

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<v Speaker 2>Still in the protocol, and when they're in the protocol,

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<v Speaker 2>they're listed as at practice but in a limited fashion,

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<v Speaker 2>but still in the protocol. If Haskins plays, am I

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<v Speaker 2>a little queasy about this? Absolutely? But in the two

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<v Speaker 2>games we've seen Haskins play, to be fair to the

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<v Speaker 2>rook it's been in relief, right, He's been taking secondary

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<v Speaker 2>snaps and being thrown into a game while it's in action. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>We would hope for a better performance against the Giants.

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<v Speaker 2>That secondary is a mess. But with a full week

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<v Speaker 2>of practice. Look, I'm not telling you Dwayne Haskins is

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<v Speaker 2>going to come out here and be Tom Brady right,

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<v Speaker 2>But I think, what's the difference between him and case Keenum?

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<v Speaker 2>Can it be that large? Is that even possible? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think so, I do, I really do, like I honestly.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I first of all, I'll put it like this.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's Keenum, I love the Dead. I completely agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the total, it's thirty seven. I mean, you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>how many points do exactly expect the Bills to score?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's a you know, a twenty three and

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<v Speaker 1>a half, thirteen and a half, you know, imply total

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<v Speaker 1>over there. I don't see that. I agree, And the

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<v Speaker 1>one thing with the Redskins is they have a decent defense,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, especially their their front seven, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like Josh Allen's able to pass all over

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<v Speaker 1>everybody because he's incredibly inaccurate. So I agree, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really see them putting up a ton of points, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Redskins, when Keenum has been in there, have at

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<v Speaker 1>least been able to be competent offensively. But I have

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest, you make a fair point. Both games

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<v Speaker 1>Haskins was in relief, but the whole point of bringing

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<v Speaker 1>him in relief in that Giants game was to be like,

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<v Speaker 1>here's a layup for you, dude, and he, to me

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<v Speaker 1>just looks not in any way ready whatsoever? I mean

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<v Speaker 1>against the Vikings, I get it. Of course they're a

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<v Speaker 1>good defense. But he was you know, the overthrow to

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<v Speaker 1>McLaurin just really you know, killed me when I watched

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<v Speaker 1>it because it's just, you know, his elbow. They were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about his elbow so low, everything's sort of flying up.

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<v Speaker 1>So if he gets the start, and it's the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why I would not feel comfortable taking it yet. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you seem to think that the difference between Haskins and

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<v Speaker 1>Keenum is essentially not negligible but minor. For me, that

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<v Speaker 1>is something that I think that I would be hesitant

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<v Speaker 1>to take it if Keenum starts. I want to make

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<v Speaker 1>it clear, I really like it, So if you get

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<v Speaker 1>good news on that, but for me.

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<v Speaker 2>But do we think the books would give themselves this

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<v Speaker 2>much liability if they think there is that much of

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<v Speaker 2>a difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely not, Absolutely not correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Bills are getting most of the tickets and

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<v Speaker 2>most of the money right now, and if they think

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<v Speaker 2>there's that much of a liability of Haskins being quarterback,

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<v Speaker 2>and this number they think would go up, then I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think they'd list a number at all. So for

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<v Speaker 2>them to be bold enough to hang this number and

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<v Speaker 2>say whatever, go bet the bills, that gives me confidence

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<v Speaker 2>in taking Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a really good point, because again, the Vikings and

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<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs have basically been off the board the whole week,

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<v Speaker 1>at least from what I can tell, right because you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know whether or not Mahomes is going to play,

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<v Speaker 1>and that makes a big difference. So I think that

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<v Speaker 1>that's a fair point, whether or not they think they

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<v Speaker 1>feel confident that Kingum is going to play, or whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not they think that the downgrade isn't that much.

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<v Speaker 1>But either way, I have no problem with it, because

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<v Speaker 1>I do think Kingdom's going to play at this point. Personally,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not making my pick. I'm betting broths dot com

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<v Speaker 1>until I know who started to get quarterback. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a little hesitant and maybe a little jaded by the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that I was, you know, closely watching that Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>night game and horrified at what I saw. But he

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<v Speaker 1>has obviously been taking a lot of reps this week

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<v Speaker 1>at least, and he's had you know, ten days I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure to get more familiar with everything. So okay, Washington

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<v Speaker 1>plus ten, I'll go there. I'm gonna take an equally

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<v Speaker 1>you know, boring game, and I'm going to take the

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<v Speaker 1>Jets and the Dolphins over forty one and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>So these are two teams that are both complete disasters

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment. The Jets have done almost nothing offensively

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<v Speaker 1>the last two games, but the real reason is just

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<v Speaker 1>that Sam Darnold is getting his butt kicked non stop.

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<v Speaker 1>The Jets offensive line is a complete disaster. So when

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<v Speaker 1>you put them up against the Patriots strong defensive line,

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<v Speaker 1>they're all over him. The Jaguars sacked him eight times,

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<v Speaker 1>and again, that's kind of what you expect from those teams.

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<v Speaker 1>The Pats are first in the league in sacks. The

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<v Speaker 1>Jaguars are third, of course, boyed by a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of what they did against the Jets, but that's not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be the case with the Dolphins. They have just

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<v Speaker 1>nine sacks on the season. That's second worst in the league,

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<v Speaker 1>tied with the Jets. Incidentally, they rarely get pressure, and

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen the Jets like competent offensively, at least against

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys. You're gonna see it again here. Leveon Bell

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<v Speaker 1>is going to have a big game. Robbie Anderson is

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<v Speaker 1>going to have a big game with Zami and Howard

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<v Speaker 1>now on Ir which was like the one guy in

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<v Speaker 1>the secondary, even though he was not playing particularly well

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<v Speaker 1>this year, the one guy in the secondary once they

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<v Speaker 1>got rid of Minka Fitzpatrick that you feared. Sam Darnold

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<v Speaker 1>is playing through a thumb spring, but it is his

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<v Speaker 1>left hand. I think he's gonna be fine. He's fully practicing.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think the Jets are gonna put up points here,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think so are the Dolphins. The offense looks

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<v Speaker 1>kind of competent with fits back out there, which he's

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<v Speaker 1>already been named the starter like the Dolphins. As I said,

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets get absolutely no pressure, just nine sacks, and

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<v Speaker 1>now they're down. Leonard Williams. C J. Mosley is probably

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<v Speaker 1>going to miss the rest of the season. He's obviously

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna play in this game. The secondary outside of

0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Jamal Adams is not great, and Adams is in full

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<v Speaker 1>drama mode. He basically, you know, is angry at the

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<v Speaker 1>prospect of getting traded. He refused a meeting with the

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<v Speaker 1>GM right now, so who even knows you know what

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<v Speaker 1>is going to happen with him this weekend. But either way,

0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:57.080
<v Speaker 1>in the end, it's two really terrible defenses and two

0:10:57.200 --> 0:11:01.040
<v Speaker 1>offenses that have enough playmakers to move the ball. So

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<v Speaker 1>for me, the over at forty one and a half

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<v Speaker 1>is my favorite bet of the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>This is great and not only are the raw sacks

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<v Speaker 2>really low for the Dolphins, the advanced metrics absolutely hate

0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:15.360
<v Speaker 2>them as well. Twenty fifth in DVA pass rushing, thirty

0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:18.240
<v Speaker 2>second over on Pro Football Focus. And that is the

0:11:18.240 --> 0:11:21.959
<v Speaker 2>weakness on this Jets offense. You know, think of think,

0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:24.160
<v Speaker 2>think what you want about Darnold, but the kid can

0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:27.840
<v Speaker 2>throw the ball and these weapons are a little bit fresky.

0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:31.040
<v Speaker 2>Jameson Crowder is a guy that can work himself open.

0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:33.840
<v Speaker 2>If Chris Herndon comes back, he's going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>nice threat alongside Ryan Griffin, who's been just more than

0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:40.079
<v Speaker 2>a warm body running routes for this Jets offense. And

0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:42.960
<v Speaker 2>on the other side of the ball. On the grid

0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:46.559
<v Speaker 2>Iron Gamble podcast, we like to refer to Fitzpatrick as

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<v Speaker 2>Fitzpowder keg because the keg can blow at any time

0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:53.960
<v Speaker 2>and there is certainly a defensive touchdown to be had

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<v Speaker 2>in this game if Keg is just throwing the ball

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<v Speaker 2>all over the field against a very very agressive Greg

0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:03.760
<v Speaker 2>Williams defense. So yeah, I definitely like the over in

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<v Speaker 2>this spot, especially if we can look into one of

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<v Speaker 2>those defensive touchdowns Spy.

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<v Speaker 1>And don't don't forget I mean, you know, as it's

0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:12.839
<v Speaker 1>a great nickname for Fits, but he can move the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they scored on their opening two drives against

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<v Speaker 1>the Steelers pretty easily. You know, Fits was moving down

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<v Speaker 1>the field. And don't forget the narrative. This is one

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<v Speaker 1>of what's you know, I don't know how many revenge

0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:28.600
<v Speaker 1>games Fits can have. Yeah, it's got to be something.

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<v Speaker 1>So I agree. I think both teams are are really

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<v Speaker 1>going to put up some points here, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to hit this over pretty pretty well. So

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<v Speaker 1>I feel good about this one, and it's my number

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<v Speaker 1>one bet. All right, let's move on to your second pick.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you have? All right?

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<v Speaker 2>If we didn't like Dwayne Haskins putting real money on him,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get a little uglier and select the Chicago Bears

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<v Speaker 2>plus five traveling to Philadelphia to play the Eagles. To me,

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<v Speaker 2>and my third game will be like this as well,

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<v Speaker 2>this is very much a market play. This is a

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<v Speaker 2>three and a half point look aheadline. Preseason this line

0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:08.960
<v Speaker 2>was three. I don't know what the difference is really

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<v Speaker 2>between these two teams other than the fact that the

0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:15.920
<v Speaker 2>Bears have been embarrassed two straight weeks at home and

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<v Speaker 2>everybody thinks they're horrific and their stock is plummeting. And

0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:24.120
<v Speaker 2>the Eagles went to Buffalo and poured thirty on a

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<v Speaker 2>team that previous to that game only had one loss

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<v Speaker 2>at Philadelphia's lows have been very low this season. They

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<v Speaker 2>lost to the Falcons, they lost to six point favorites

0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:38.080
<v Speaker 2>at home to the Lions. Even when they beat up

0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:39.880
<v Speaker 2>on our stinky Jets, they only had four and a

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<v Speaker 2>half yards per play in that game. So this is

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<v Speaker 2>a stock high stock love spot where I really think

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<v Speaker 2>that we can take the Bears. And just looking at

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<v Speaker 2>the football analysis as well, Jason Peter's not playing today.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not practicing today, excuse me on Wednesday. He's not

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<v Speaker 2>played the last couple of games. And Andre Dillard, who

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<v Speaker 2>they drafted as a luxury to be a backup left tackle,

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<v Speaker 2>has really struggled. Struggled. Now he's gonna have Khalil Mack

0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:10.280
<v Speaker 2>lining up right in front of him. Even the double

0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:12.800
<v Speaker 2>team is gonna make that life hell for the rookie

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<v Speaker 2>on the left hand side. So give me the Bears

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<v Speaker 2>get right spot on the road, a bad secondary to

0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.600
<v Speaker 2>get Trubisky going a little bit, Matt and Agy scheming

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<v Speaker 2>some things up. I just think this is a point

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a point and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>Too high, all right, So I don't mind it whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>And it did move, you're right, even at the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of the week. I think it was three and a

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<v Speaker 1>half or something like that. So it's been recent and

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<v Speaker 1>again a lot of it is from this weekend. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, other than that last maybe sentence or two

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<v Speaker 1>that you threw in there, there's very little about the Bears'

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<v Speaker 1>offense going on. Do you think that they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to put up point I know the Eagles

0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:51.520
<v Speaker 1>secondary is horrendous, but their run defense is good. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know David Montgomery, he was kind of the guy

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<v Speaker 1>last week. They finally went to him. So I get

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<v Speaker 1>completely about the Eagles having trouble scoring necessarily, But do

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<v Speaker 1>you think the Bears are going to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>put up points here?

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<v Speaker 2>I think they'll be able to do enough I trust

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<v Speaker 2>Nagy enough coming from that read coaching tree to scheme

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<v Speaker 2>up things against an Eagle secondary that is really really

0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.440
<v Speaker 2>struggling to cover. And Nigel Bradham you can add to

0:15:14.480 --> 0:15:18.200
<v Speaker 2>that injury report as well. He's a very good linebacker

0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:21.200
<v Speaker 2>for Philadelphia. So I mean, what do we need to

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<v Speaker 2>get to seventeen twenty points here to secure a cover?

0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:28.880
<v Speaker 2>I think Naggy and those guys can do it. I mean,

0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:30.960
<v Speaker 2>this Eagles team has been They're kind of the yo

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<v Speaker 2>yo team this year. Right. You kind of want to

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<v Speaker 2>fade them after they've looked great and bet on them

0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:39.000
<v Speaker 2>after they've looked terrible because the opposite is coming, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is a week we can almost take

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<v Speaker 2>advantage of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Look, I don't hate it, and it kind of

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<v Speaker 1>leads into my next pick, which I was gonna wait

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<v Speaker 1>till three, but I'll move it now since it goes

0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:52.320
<v Speaker 1>nicely into our narrative. The line has moved on this one,

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<v Speaker 1>like we were talking about right before I said, ah,

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<v Speaker 1>the line moved on one of the games that I

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<v Speaker 1>had right before I had this pick. But I'm still

0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:01.840
<v Speaker 1>gonna go with it. And that is the same game

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<v Speaker 1>that you picked, which is the Bears and Eagles, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going with under forty two. It was under forty

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<v Speaker 1>three when I first picked it. A lot of what

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<v Speaker 1>you said makes sense, except for the fact that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really see either team necessarily being able to put

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<v Speaker 1>up a ton of points. The Shawn Jackson is potentially

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<v Speaker 1>back this week, that screws up the narrative a tiny bit,

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<v Speaker 1>because I do think he makes it kind of a

0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:25.840
<v Speaker 1>big difference in that offense for the Eagles. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>I really do think that this sets up well for

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<v Speaker 1>the Unders, just in the way that both these teams play.

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<v Speaker 1>The Eagles you've talked about them, but in particular, they're

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<v Speaker 1>like the worst first half team in the game today.

0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:40.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, remember they started the season by being down

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<v Speaker 1>twenty to seven against Washington. They fell behind significantly against

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<v Speaker 1>both the Lions you just mentioned and the Vikings. For

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<v Speaker 1>whatever reason, they cannot get going early. They've been behind

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<v Speaker 1>at halftime in five of their eight games. They're one

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<v Speaker 1>of the worst teams in the league in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>first quarter and first half point differential. I don't really

0:16:57.480 --> 0:16:59.280
<v Speaker 1>have the reason for it other than I think that

0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:03.080
<v Speaker 1>they're really not a very good football team right now,

0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:05.040
<v Speaker 1>and then they play with their hair on fire in

0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:07.639
<v Speaker 1>the comeback mode, so they can just get some points

0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:10.119
<v Speaker 1>out of there, but otherwise they just struggle. And on

0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:12.639
<v Speaker 1>the offensive side of the ball, things just they just

0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:14.800
<v Speaker 1>look disjointed, right, I mean, zach Ertz hasn't gotten the

0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:17.880
<v Speaker 1>ball enough. The offensive line is a disaster. As you mentioned,

0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:20.760
<v Speaker 1>they're finally leaning on the running game and that's working

0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.240
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more, but it's not really you know,

0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Miles Sanders is banged up a little bit with the shoulder.

0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:28.399
<v Speaker 1>He should play, but again I don't expect them to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to, you know, have however, whatever four rushing

0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:34.560
<v Speaker 1>touchdowns or three rushing touchdowns like they had last game

0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:36.399
<v Speaker 1>against the Bills. And on the defensive side, again, the

0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:40.119
<v Speaker 1>secondary has been decimated by injuries all year long. Jalen Mills,

0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Ronald Darby, Vonte Maddox. They've all missed time and again.

0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:46.119
<v Speaker 1>They can stop the run, but not really the past.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's probably a pretty good recipe for the under because,

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<v Speaker 1>unlike you, I have a little less faith I think

0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:54.960
<v Speaker 1>in the Bears offense. I mean Mitchell Trubisky. To me,

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<v Speaker 1>I've watched them closely. Everything is bad. This is taking

0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:04.399
<v Speaker 1>a giant sort of leap backwards. There was all these

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<v Speaker 1>whispers in the preseason about how he just looked like

0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:08.919
<v Speaker 1>he had regressed, and I didn't really buy it. But

0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:11.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, whatever it is, he's been inaccurate. He doesn't

0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:14.080
<v Speaker 1>look confident. The play calling in Matt ANDEGGI you know,

0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:17.320
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned it as a positive. I don't know. It

0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:20.920
<v Speaker 1>almost seems designed not to maximize the Bear strength at

0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:23.359
<v Speaker 1>this point. And again, you know, the one thing that

0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:25.600
<v Speaker 1>they have going right now, I mean, Alan Robinson's playing great,

0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:28.679
<v Speaker 1>but David Montgomery last game, he looked great. They ran

0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:31.040
<v Speaker 1>out a ton, but that's really where the Eagles sort

0:18:31.040 --> 0:18:33.959
<v Speaker 1>of set up shops. So in the end, I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't really think that all of a sudden, the Eagles

0:18:36.640 --> 0:18:41.040
<v Speaker 1>are suddenly going to magically fix their slow starts. And

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<v Speaker 1>in the end, I don't think they're gonna need to

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<v Speaker 1>really come charging in the second half like they have

0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:49.399
<v Speaker 1>been and put up all those points that they usually do,

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't see the Bears getting out to a

0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:54.520
<v Speaker 1>big lead. And I get the last game was eleven

0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:57.200
<v Speaker 1>to seven against the Bills, and then the Eagles wound

0:18:57.240 --> 0:18:59.639
<v Speaker 1>up putting up twenty points in the second half. But

0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:01.440
<v Speaker 1>a lot of that was fluky. I don't really think,

0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:04.000
<v Speaker 1>as you said, they're up and then they're immediately down.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't really expect to see that this week.

0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:10.280
<v Speaker 1>I expect a low, close scoring game, which is why

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<v Speaker 1>I don't in any way hate the Bears getting five,

0:19:13.640 --> 0:19:16.720
<v Speaker 1>because I think once you're past the key number of three, frankly,

0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:18.320
<v Speaker 1>I feel a little more confident in the Bears. So

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<v Speaker 1>for me, even though I liked it at forty three,

0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:22.399
<v Speaker 1>which is when I originally said I was gonna take it,

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<v Speaker 1>I will take it at the Bears Eagles under forty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, your thoughts they brought down the action, you know,

0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.359
<v Speaker 2>your your sharp thoughts moving markets.

0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Right, I mean I figured, you know, the Bears are

0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:36.840
<v Speaker 1>usually a pretty good underplay, just because they put up

0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:39.239
<v Speaker 1>so few points and the defense gets a little bit

0:19:39.240 --> 0:19:41.200
<v Speaker 1>of a bad rap right now. I mean, their run

0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:43.960
<v Speaker 1>defense is clearly weaker without a Keen Hicks. Okay, there's

0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:48.920
<v Speaker 1>no denying that, but it's still overall a relatively strong defense.

0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:50.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, go be a Jets fan for a day

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<v Speaker 1>and then figure out, you know what it's like to

0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:56.199
<v Speaker 1>watch an actual mediocre team. So for me, you know,

0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:57.399
<v Speaker 1>I think in the end, it's going to be a

0:19:57.400 --> 0:19:59.120
<v Speaker 1>close scoring game. I agree with you that the Eagles

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<v Speaker 1>just when they're up, that's when you kind of bet

0:20:00.800 --> 0:20:02.679
<v Speaker 1>against them. So for me, I think it's much more

0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:04.760
<v Speaker 1>betting against the offense, and I think it's just going

0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:07.000
<v Speaker 1>to kind of be a you know, a hard hit

0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:09.240
<v Speaker 1>game that's going to be relatively close. All right, let's

0:20:09.240 --> 0:20:10.040
<v Speaker 1>move on to your third pick.

0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:13.320
<v Speaker 2>What do you got another marketplay for me? Raiders minus

0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:17.960
<v Speaker 2>two over the Lions. To me, these are two average

0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:21.200
<v Speaker 2>teams that have a little bit of upside. Just hang

0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:23.720
<v Speaker 2>three in this game and let it sit. But the

0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:27.760
<v Speaker 2>Raiders are just getting no love from the market despite

0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:30.800
<v Speaker 2>covering three out of their last four games. And if

0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:34.199
<v Speaker 2>you look at that Packers game that Derek Carr almost

0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:36.600
<v Speaker 2>called him David almost called him, David, But I don't

0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:36.840
<v Speaker 2>do it.

0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:37.680
<v Speaker 1>Don't do it.

0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:42.280
<v Speaker 2>That Derek Carr fumble touchback was really a game changer

0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:44.720
<v Speaker 2>in a game where the Raiders were competitive. It was

0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:49.040
<v Speaker 2>kind of a fake blowout for the Packers. Again, Dvoa

0:20:49.119 --> 0:20:52.240
<v Speaker 2>has these two teams close. Lions fourteenth and overall efficiency

0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:56.240
<v Speaker 2>Raiders right there in seventeenth. And this is a great

0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:59.240
<v Speaker 2>homecoming for a team that's been on the road since

0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:04.840
<v Speaker 2>September fifteenth, that's forty nine days come Sunday. Their only

0:21:04.920 --> 0:21:08.520
<v Speaker 2>quote unquote home game was played in North London at

0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:13.200
<v Speaker 2>Tottenham Stadium. Come on you Spurs, big game against Everton

0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:17.760
<v Speaker 2>this weekend. This is defense sold separately too. Both teams

0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:22.359
<v Speaker 2>in the bottom third Lions fifth and pass efficiency according

0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:27.119
<v Speaker 2>to DVA Raiders sixth, and we've got some real problems

0:21:27.160 --> 0:21:30.720
<v Speaker 2>here in this Lion secondary. They traded away KWANJ. Driggs. Thankfully,

0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:34.919
<v Speaker 2>Darius Slay's back at practice today on Wednesday, but Tracy Walker,

0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:39.399
<v Speaker 2>the safety, the second safety, went out with an injury

0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:42.840
<v Speaker 2>to his knee against the Giants, did not practice today,

0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:46.080
<v Speaker 2>so they might be out without Digs, without Walker and

0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:50.879
<v Speaker 2>a limping Darius Sligh. So points galore in this game,

0:21:51.000 --> 0:21:53.040
<v Speaker 2>and just give me the home team giving less than

0:21:53.080 --> 0:21:53.960
<v Speaker 2>a field goal in the spot.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think I would say that I don't love it,

0:21:56.760 --> 0:21:59.400
<v Speaker 1>but I like it in this one. I think the Raiders,

0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:02.480
<v Speaker 1>I'll be fully honest. When I first saw this line

0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:06.199
<v Speaker 1>on Monday, which actually was less than it is now,

0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:08.879
<v Speaker 1>I think it was maybe minus one. It surprised me

0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:11.359
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, and that is me really just not

0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:14.320
<v Speaker 1>giving the Raiders enough credit for what they are. I

0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:17.000
<v Speaker 1>took them in that game against the Packers. I don't

0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:18.639
<v Speaker 1>remember if that was one of my picks, but I

0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:20.359
<v Speaker 1>think they were getting you know, four and a half

0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:22.160
<v Speaker 1>by the end because a lot of sharp money came

0:22:22.200 --> 0:22:24.280
<v Speaker 1>in on the Raiders, and yeah, they got blown out,

0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:26.639
<v Speaker 1>but they really shouldn't have. It was that fumble, and

0:22:26.800 --> 0:22:28.080
<v Speaker 1>they were in the red zone a couple of other

0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:29.800
<v Speaker 1>times and turned it over, so that game could have

0:22:29.800 --> 0:22:32.360
<v Speaker 1>been a lot closer than it was. Their offensive line

0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:35.800
<v Speaker 1>is playing extremely well, Josh Jacobs is doing good things,

0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:37.720
<v Speaker 1>and again you know, now that Tyroll Williams is back,

0:22:37.720 --> 0:22:42.840
<v Speaker 1>it gives car another option after Darren Waller out there.

0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:46.560
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, with all with the Lions, who I also

0:22:46.600 --> 0:22:48.560
<v Speaker 1>feel like generally been underrated. I mean, they didn't cover

0:22:48.600 --> 0:22:51.520
<v Speaker 1>against the Giants, though I agree, you know, their defense

0:22:51.640 --> 0:22:53.840
<v Speaker 1>is just you know, beat up a little bit. If

0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Slave plays, that certainly helps them. But in the end,

0:22:57.160 --> 0:22:58.680
<v Speaker 1>I really don't hate it. I don't know whether or

0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:00.520
<v Speaker 1>not I'll be able to pick if I had to

0:23:00.560 --> 0:23:02.760
<v Speaker 1>choose a side, though I would choose the Raiders, So

0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:03.720
<v Speaker 1>I definitely.

0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:05.320
<v Speaker 2>Don't Hey talk about the O line real quick. Trent

0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Brown came back last week after an injury, immediately graded

0:23:08.880 --> 0:23:12.080
<v Speaker 2>as an eighty three point seven on PFF, and last

0:23:12.119 --> 0:23:16.960
<v Speaker 2>week was the first time since preseason all five slated

0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:20.560
<v Speaker 2>starters played on the offensive line. They were the highest

0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:23.080
<v Speaker 2>rated they've been all season eighty six and pass blocking

0:23:23.119 --> 0:23:28.280
<v Speaker 2>per PFF. So this is a well coached, well executing

0:23:28.359 --> 0:23:30.800
<v Speaker 2>unit right now. That is the healthiest it's been all season.

0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:33.520
<v Speaker 2>So I think this is the best value you might

0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:34.960
<v Speaker 2>get on this Raiders team all season.

0:23:35.119 --> 0:23:37.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and again, I have no problems with the offense.

0:23:37.760 --> 0:23:40.640
<v Speaker 1>It's much more about the defense, which I think again

0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:43.560
<v Speaker 1>the Lions they do have no they're just completely abandoning

0:23:43.600 --> 0:23:45.240
<v Speaker 1>pretending to try to run the ball. You know, they

0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:47.639
<v Speaker 1>at least tried with Kerry on Johnson in there, but

0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:49.600
<v Speaker 1>they're just kind of giving that up right now and

0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:52.359
<v Speaker 1>going with the smorgasboard of you know whoever they've gotten

0:23:52.400 --> 0:23:55.359
<v Speaker 1>there with Trey Carson and Ty Johnson, and it's not

0:23:55.400 --> 0:23:56.920
<v Speaker 1>really going to work. So they are just going to

0:23:56.960 --> 0:23:59.200
<v Speaker 1>be passing, which is fine, but you make them one dimensional,

0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:02.880
<v Speaker 1>and you know, the Raiders should at least be able

0:24:02.880 --> 0:24:05.160
<v Speaker 1>to hang with them. So I don't mind it considering

0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:08.520
<v Speaker 1>their home, you know, giving less than field goal. Let's

0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:10.960
<v Speaker 1>move on to my final pick, which is the Colts

0:24:11.040 --> 0:24:14.479
<v Speaker 1>laying one to the Steelers in Pittsburgh. I didn't get

0:24:14.480 --> 0:24:16.520
<v Speaker 1>this line when it opened. I don't get it now,

0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:19.880
<v Speaker 1>I will not get it tomorrow. I think the Steelers

0:24:20.040 --> 0:24:23.840
<v Speaker 1>defense is solid. It's not spectacular, but it's very solid,

0:24:24.240 --> 0:24:27.240
<v Speaker 1>particularly since they added Minka Fitzpatrick. They get a ton

0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:29.959
<v Speaker 1>of interceptions in sacks, but you can throw on them,

0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:32.399
<v Speaker 1>as Fitzpatrick showed pretty easily that you can put up

0:24:32.400 --> 0:24:35.040
<v Speaker 1>points against them right at the outset on Mondays on

0:24:35.119 --> 0:24:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Monday Night. The Colts passing offense, you know, it's been

0:24:38.920 --> 0:24:42.720
<v Speaker 1>generally good. Jacoby Brissett has fit in well for Andrew Luck.

0:24:42.800 --> 0:24:45.159
<v Speaker 1>It's a little bit of a mixed bag generally, but

0:24:45.240 --> 0:24:47.879
<v Speaker 1>for the most part, the passing game has been working.

0:24:48.520 --> 0:24:52.360
<v Speaker 1>And they're also the Steelers, I'll give them that. They're

0:24:52.359 --> 0:24:54.680
<v Speaker 1>also in addition to good against the past, they're good

0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:56.760
<v Speaker 1>against the run all right. They hold opposing teams to

0:24:56.920 --> 0:24:59.520
<v Speaker 1>really low yars per carry average. But the Colts have

0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:01.680
<v Speaker 1>won the best defensive lines in the league. Marlon Mack

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:03.359
<v Speaker 1>has run really well. I don't expect them to get

0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:06.160
<v Speaker 1>shut down here. But the problem with the Steelers is really,

0:25:06.200 --> 0:25:08.760
<v Speaker 1>for me, their offense. It's not at all impressive. Under

0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:11.240
<v Speaker 1>Mason Rudolph, he's been extremely subpar. He doesn't push the

0:25:11.280 --> 0:25:13.920
<v Speaker 1>ball down field enough. He struggled for the most part

0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:16.920
<v Speaker 1>against the Dolphins. He was largely bailed out by Juju

0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Smith Schuster making leaping catches and some ridiculous defensive decisions

0:25:20.680 --> 0:25:23.399
<v Speaker 1>that freed up Deontay Johnson on a third and twenty

0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:26.359
<v Speaker 1>when the Dolphins called the blitz. They Steelers rank near

0:25:26.400 --> 0:25:28.520
<v Speaker 1>the bottom of the league in passing and their run

0:25:28.560 --> 0:25:30.959
<v Speaker 1>game is good, but they're really banged up. Connor as

0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:33.680
<v Speaker 1>the shoulder injury, Benny Snell jered his knee, Jalen Samuels

0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:35.960
<v Speaker 1>is just coming back off the knee injury. I Meanwhile,

0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:38.639
<v Speaker 1>the Colts defense is very solid on both sides of

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:40.840
<v Speaker 1>the ball. They get pressure on the quarterback consistently. They've

0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:43.159
<v Speaker 1>got nineteen sacks on the year, and the Steelers are

0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:45.320
<v Speaker 1>good at protecting Rudolph. But I imagine there's going to be

0:25:45.359 --> 0:25:48.120
<v Speaker 1>some happy feat and the Colts are also solid against

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:50.320
<v Speaker 1>the run. Their overall numbers are a little misleading because

0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:52.399
<v Speaker 1>they've been without Darius Leonard for a few games. But

0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 1>they've allowed just eighty three yards rushing per game over

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 1>their last three games. So I think they're really doing well.

0:25:57.840 --> 0:26:00.280
<v Speaker 1>And this just seems like to me, the Colts are

0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:02.920
<v Speaker 1>a clearly better team. I get that they're on the road,

0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:05.720
<v Speaker 1>and I realized that they nearly lost last week against

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:08.320
<v Speaker 1>the Broncos. But first, the Broncos are not nearly as

0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:10.760
<v Speaker 1>bad as their record indicates. They could easily have won

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:13.199
<v Speaker 1>three of the games that they lost, but it was

0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:16.399
<v Speaker 1>really just a weird game. The Colts are rarely penalized,

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:18.040
<v Speaker 1>and I think they might have gotten hit with ten

0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:21.480
<v Speaker 1>penalties last week. It was crazy. I'm basically throwing it out.

0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:23.399
<v Speaker 1>You add to that the fact that the Steelers are

0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:25.520
<v Speaker 1>on a short week and as I said, they're banged up,

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:28.000
<v Speaker 1>especially at running back. It's hard for me to steal

0:26:28.200 --> 0:26:29.920
<v Speaker 1>to see the Steelers coming out ahead of this one.

0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:31.080
<v Speaker 1>So given the Colts laying.

0:26:30.840 --> 0:26:34.880
<v Speaker 2>One, love this, absolutely love it. You know I've you've

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:37.159
<v Speaker 2>sniped this from me. You gotta you snuck it in

0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:42.280
<v Speaker 2>before I could take it. Look, the Colts offensive line

0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 2>is going to be good enough to neutralize this Steelers

0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:50.000
<v Speaker 2>pass rush, which is phenomenal first in DVA fourth on

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:53.240
<v Speaker 2>Pro Football Focus. Jacoby Brissett is going to have enough

0:26:53.240 --> 0:26:57.200
<v Speaker 2>time to operate in this offense. And traditionally the Steelers

0:26:57.240 --> 0:27:00.159
<v Speaker 2>tend to be more of a zone team. Now they've

0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:03.480
<v Speaker 2>tried to change that this year right by bringing in

0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:07.280
<v Speaker 2>Minka Fitzpatrick and drafting a linebacker early so that they

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 2>could play more man concept. But I still think that

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:12.159
<v Speaker 2>Bersett's going to be able to stand back there and

0:27:12.280 --> 0:27:15.240
<v Speaker 2>make the correct read in this game. And on the

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:21.240
<v Speaker 2>other side of the ball, Mason Rudolph is horrendous getting

0:27:21.280 --> 0:27:26.600
<v Speaker 2>great protection on Monday night. He's just the first interception,

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:29.520
<v Speaker 2>he had a beautiful pocket. He sat back there and

0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:33.040
<v Speaker 2>patted the ball for several seconds before making the worst

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:35.879
<v Speaker 2>decision possible and handing the ball to the Dolphins. You

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:39.200
<v Speaker 2>can do that against the historically bad team and get

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:41.520
<v Speaker 2>away with the victory and they damn near covered fourteen

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:44.199
<v Speaker 2>in the process as well, But you can't do that

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:46.960
<v Speaker 2>against a good football team, and that's what the Colts are.

0:27:47.520 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 2>And beyond all of this, this is one of the

0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:54.719
<v Speaker 2>largest coaching this matches you'll see this weekend. Mike Tomlin

0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:59.720
<v Speaker 2>against frank Reich. Frank Reich was the architect of everything

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 2>that the Eagles did, and he's taken a Colt's roster

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 2>and elevated it to a point where it should not

0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:09.560
<v Speaker 2>be post Andrew Locke. So yeah, the Colts, this will

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:11.880
<v Speaker 2>steam up closer to three. I don't think it'll ever

0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:14.200
<v Speaker 2>get to the key number of three. But if you

0:28:14.320 --> 0:28:16.600
<v Speaker 2>like the Colts in the spot, you should take them

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:17.760
<v Speaker 2>as soon as possible.

0:28:17.800 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 1>So you know, you make that point. But why hasn't

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 1>it moved yet? I mean it was basically I mean,

0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 1>I think it was a pick em maybe the look

0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:29.200
<v Speaker 1>aheadline when it first came out. But it hasn't moved significantly.

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 1>You think there's gonna be a ton of sharply because

0:28:30.840 --> 0:28:32.480
<v Speaker 1>it makes me nervous when I look at a line

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:34.680
<v Speaker 1>like this, I'm like, no, no, no, this is incorrect,

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 1>and it's not moving significantly. I mean the number I'm

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:40.920
<v Speaker 1>looking just sort of at the amount of money that's

0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 1>being put on it, and you know, the number of

0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 1>bets the money being put on it is essentially less

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:49.160
<v Speaker 1>in terms of percentages than the number of bets, So

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:51.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, are we missing something here? Is because I

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:54.080
<v Speaker 1>really would have expected this to move by now.

0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 2>I definitely love the way you're thinking about this. Right,

0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 2>If something seems too good to be true, it probably isn't.

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:02.960
<v Speaker 2>One game that's like that this week is we haven't

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:06.160
<v Speaker 2>touched upon? Is the Packers Chargers right like sharing at

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:08.280
<v Speaker 2>that number? And you're like, why aren't the Packers like

0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:12.280
<v Speaker 2>mind session exactly, and why isn't it steaming tremendously in

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 2>that direction? So I definitely understand those concerns. But I

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 2>think when you're working with numbers between the field goals, right,

0:29:21.640 --> 0:29:23.560
<v Speaker 2>and again, I don't think this number will ever get

0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 2>to three. I think eventually it'll creep up as they

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:28.280
<v Speaker 2>try to get more money on Steelers to balance the

0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:31.640
<v Speaker 2>books a little bit. I think our concerns can be

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:34.960
<v Speaker 2>levied a little bit because it's it's not near a

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:37.920
<v Speaker 2>key number. It won't reach a key number. I think

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:40.719
<v Speaker 2>as long as it doesn't steam through pick right then,

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:43.360
<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, alarm bells should be going up.

0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Right now, I think we're okay.

0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:46.560
<v Speaker 1>All right that I think that that's fine. And again,

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 1>that is the obvious point. When you're not going through

0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 1>the key numbers, it doesn't really matter if it's plus

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 1>one if it's plus two, it's a kind of irrelevant

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:55.760
<v Speaker 1>at this point. It just seems to me that, you know,

0:29:57.280 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 1>I would want to hammer this number right now at

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:03.640
<v Speaker 1>plus one, so I would feel like, you know, or

0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:06.080
<v Speaker 1>at minus one, so I feel like in the end,

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:08.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm just surprised that they're leaving it there and that

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:10.480
<v Speaker 1>they aren't getting quite as much money at this point.

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:14.120
<v Speaker 1>But again, we'll seek and you know, I'm certainly confident

0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 1>enough in it to pick it now. All right, So

0:30:15.880 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 1>let's recap here, Rich, You're gonna take the Redskins getting

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 1>ten from the Bills, the Bears getting five from the Eagles,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Raiders laying two to the Lions. I'm going

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0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:30.200
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0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:34.400
<v Speaker 1>to It's a trap, where we list the line that

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 1>we are avoiding. Go ahead and start us off.

0:32:37.560 --> 0:32:42.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh Man, just talking about this team gives me eggzema.

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:45.640
<v Speaker 2>The Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I talked about Yo Yo's earlier

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:49.880
<v Speaker 2>with regards to the Philadelphia Eagles, but the Bucks. You

0:32:50.040 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 2>never know when you're going to get the good Jamis

0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 2>or the bad Jamis. And he's been a player that

0:32:56.680 --> 0:33:00.080
<v Speaker 2>whenever I've got him or whenever I'm fading him. It

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:04.239
<v Speaker 2>seems to me that it's just the exact opposite is

0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:09.959
<v Speaker 2>going to happen. And from a pure numbers standpoint, analyzing

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 2>this game, looking how poor Seattle has been at home,

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:16.400
<v Speaker 2>they failed to cover in four games that week, one

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 2>game against the Bengals. The Bengals are one of the

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:21.840
<v Speaker 2>worst teams in football, and somehow they stuck with them

0:33:22.200 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 2>at CenturyLink. The Hawks secondary is no longer the legion

0:33:26.280 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 2>of boom. You should for sure be taking this six

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:33.560
<v Speaker 2>and a half or six whatever number you're getting. Classic

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 2>tickets are on the Seahawks sixty percent. Clip money is

0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:40.800
<v Speaker 2>on the Bucks sixty eight percent. Clip Everything is telling

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 2>you take Tampa Bay, but I can't do it.

0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I can't.

0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:46.520
<v Speaker 2>I can't go near the bucks Man. So that is

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 2>why Ironstaingle.

0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:50.000
<v Speaker 1>First of all, I was legitimately about to say, you

0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 1>have completely misunderstood the point of this exercise, because everything

0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 1>you were saying, I thought We're gonna come up and

0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:59.240
<v Speaker 1>be like, you gotta take the Bucks. That's I'm asporting

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:00.960
<v Speaker 1>to say. I was like, no, you can't, that's not

0:34:01.160 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 1>what we do in this section. So I've done this show.

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how many shows we've done at this point,

0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:10.160
<v Speaker 1>thirty forty, whatever it is, and almost every show I say, yeah,

0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm staying away from whatever. The Bucks. When

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:15.040
<v Speaker 1>the Bucks played the Titans, it was perfect because those

0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:17.000
<v Speaker 1>are two teams that I said to like, I don't know,

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:20.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm not going anywhere near them. I agree,

0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:24.120
<v Speaker 1>this line looks pretty nice, it looks good for the Bucks.

0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:27.759
<v Speaker 1>But no, you can't ever trust Jameis Winston. You can't

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 1>trust anything that they're doing whatsoever. I mean, I'm completely

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:34.160
<v Speaker 1>in agreement with you on this one because you just

0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:35.880
<v Speaker 1>don't know which one is going to shut up a

0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:36.359
<v Speaker 1>show up.

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:38.160
<v Speaker 2>So you know what you do with the Bucks, You

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:42.440
<v Speaker 2>just bet weird adjusted lines like bet Hawks minus twenty

0:34:42.560 --> 0:34:45.880
<v Speaker 2>and Bucks minus seven, Like those are those who are

0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:48.919
<v Speaker 2>what you should be betting in this game, because they are.

0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:51.960
<v Speaker 2>They just have all these outlier outcomes every single game.

0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:53.560
<v Speaker 2>You don't know what direction it's going to be, but

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:55.400
<v Speaker 2>it's certainly going to be some sort of outline.

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:57.920
<v Speaker 1>You are a genius. I love that strategy, but in

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:00.920
<v Speaker 1>the meantime, do not take anything on the Bucks getting

0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:03.520
<v Speaker 1>six in this game. As for me, I am going

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 1>to avoid the Pats laying three to the Ravens. Now

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 1>this line has been steadily moving towards the Ravens all week.

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:12.800
<v Speaker 1>I completely get why Patriots offense does not look dominant.

0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:15.160
<v Speaker 1>The Ravens are at home in prime time off of bye,

0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 1>where John Harbaugh is great at getting his team going.

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:19.879
<v Speaker 1>And the thing is, when I look at the game,

0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:22.600
<v Speaker 1>especially with Hollywood Brown looking likely to play here, I

0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 1>do think it favors the Ravens, or at least it

0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:26.960
<v Speaker 1>did when they were getting more than a field goal.

0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 1>But I kind of think the Patriots blow up all

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:32.880
<v Speaker 1>narratives and expectations at this point. The defense is legitimate,

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:35.440
<v Speaker 1>and when you have a quarterback like Lamar Jackson's primary

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 1>weapon is his legs, I just think that that is

0:35:37.640 --> 0:35:40.479
<v Speaker 1>something that Bill Belijack can find a way to scheme around.

0:35:40.560 --> 0:35:42.799
<v Speaker 1>So first, I think that all the value has kind

0:35:42.800 --> 0:35:45.160
<v Speaker 1>of been sucked away now that the line is down

0:35:45.200 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 1>to an even field goal. But even if I did

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.840
<v Speaker 1>see value, I would stay away because I just don't

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:52.520
<v Speaker 1>see how you can possibly bet against the Patriots giving

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 1>anything within four points at this point, given that they've

0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:59.000
<v Speaker 1>There's just been so much value the last couple of weeks,

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, when you looked at the and you looked

0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:03.040
<v Speaker 1>at the Browns and those spreads, and there was so

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:06.319
<v Speaker 1>much value, and sharp betters have been all over those

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:10.080
<v Speaker 1>plays and the Patriots have still covered. So for me,

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 1>I understand why there's a lot of sharp money coming

0:36:13.000 --> 0:36:15.160
<v Speaker 1>in on the Ravens. It was that I like them

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 1>at four, but I still would not have bet them almost.

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's sort of the opposite with Winston. You

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:23.719
<v Speaker 1>don't know what you're gonna get with Winston. I know

0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:25.800
<v Speaker 1>what I'm gonna get with the Patriots, and it scares

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 1>the bejeebas out of me, and I just don't feel

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 1>comfortable betting against them. So I'm avoiding the Patriots. Laying

0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:31.520
<v Speaker 1>three did the Ravens.

0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Every week, people tell me this is the spot, this

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:37.239
<v Speaker 2>is the spot to fade the Patriots. Last week we

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:40.080
<v Speaker 2>were doing our Super Contest show Brett Colson mo Noir.

0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:43.640
<v Speaker 2>This is absolutely the spot to take the Browns and

0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:48.080
<v Speaker 2>fade the Patriots. But spoiler alert, it's never the spot

0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:53.000
<v Speaker 2>to fade the Patriots. They get some weird muffed punt

0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:57.840
<v Speaker 2>or some weird last week Nick Chubb alignment karate kicks

0:36:57.920 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 2>the ball out of his hands and it turns into

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 2>a Patriots defensive score. These things are almost predictive now

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 2>for the New England Patriots, and it's just never the

0:37:09.080 --> 0:37:12.760
<v Speaker 2>spot to fade them. Even as all the money poured

0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:15.319
<v Speaker 2>in on Cleveland last week and that number steamed through

0:37:15.360 --> 0:37:18.080
<v Speaker 2>the key number of ten and down to nine, it

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 2>did not matter. You don't make money fading, Bill Belichick.

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:26.360
<v Speaker 2>You never have, you never will. And like the Bucks,

0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:29.400
<v Speaker 2>the Patriots are the ultimate stay away from me unless

0:37:29.440 --> 0:37:32.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm betting on them, because I'm just done with fading

0:37:33.120 --> 0:37:34.920
<v Speaker 2>the Pats at all costs.

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:38.560
<v Speaker 1>And as someone who did take the Browns getting thirteen

0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:42.720
<v Speaker 1>in the super contest this past week, I completely agree

0:37:42.719 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 1>with that. You just can't at this point anymore.

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:46.479
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you always walk away, You always walk away

0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:47.959
<v Speaker 2>thinking that you were on the right side.

0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Of course I was on the right And it doesn't

0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:53.240
<v Speaker 1>mean it's a bad bet when you lose, right, of course,

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:56.359
<v Speaker 1>that's not really what you're necessarily doing. Just because you lose,

0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:58.640
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't necessarily make it a bad bet. And I'm

0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:00.120
<v Speaker 1>sure the sharp better is aren't gonna be like man, man,

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:01.560
<v Speaker 1>why was I doing that? You know what I mean?

0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:04.560
<v Speaker 1>That's not the way it works. But still no, run

0:38:04.640 --> 0:38:08.160
<v Speaker 1>far away completely from anything involving the Patriots at the moments.

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:10.640
<v Speaker 1>All right, so you're avoiding the Bucks getting six from

0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:14.640
<v Speaker 1>the Seahawks, I'm avoiding the Ravens getting three from the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 2>Start us off, Well, you called me with my pants

0:38:57.640 --> 0:39:00.200
<v Speaker 2>down before we started the show. I forgot about this,

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:04.600
<v Speaker 2>But while we were recording here, I initially had a

0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:06.680
<v Speaker 2>prop in there which was a little bit wild. I

0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:10.520
<v Speaker 2>had Mitch Trubisky overpassing yards two fifty decent value at

0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:12.920
<v Speaker 2>plus one eleven, and it correlates if you like Bears

0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:14.799
<v Speaker 2>plus five. But I'm going to pivot to a game

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:19.239
<v Speaker 2>that actually you just selected, and that's Patriots Ravens and

0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:24.240
<v Speaker 2>Bill Belichick. His method is always to kill the snake,

0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:26.719
<v Speaker 2>you take off the head, and in this case it

0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:29.640
<v Speaker 2>would be Lamar Jackson. I'm going to take the under

0:39:30.200 --> 0:39:34.400
<v Speaker 2>on fifty nine and a half rushing yards from Lamar Jackson.

0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:39.840
<v Speaker 2>That is a suspiciously low number. And I do believe

0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:44.400
<v Speaker 2>that in these scenarios where you have very low outlier

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:48.960
<v Speaker 2>type prop lines even totals as well, that you usually

0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:52.480
<v Speaker 2>want to go on the side that it's on. In

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:55.799
<v Speaker 2>this case, it's low, So your mind is saying take

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:59.400
<v Speaker 2>the over, but I in fact would take the under.

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 2>That's what the Patriots are going to focus on in

0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:05.160
<v Speaker 2>this game, right, They're going to make Lamar Jackson throw

0:40:05.520 --> 0:40:07.840
<v Speaker 2>against the secondary they're going to build a wall with

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:11.560
<v Speaker 2>their front seven, not allow him to get out and scamper.

0:40:12.400 --> 0:40:15.040
<v Speaker 2>You look at the way they defended Leveon Bell. Historically,

0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Leveon likes to take those two steps and then stop

0:40:18.320 --> 0:40:21.359
<v Speaker 2>and then read the zone blocking scheme and then go

0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:25.200
<v Speaker 2>from there. Well, if you watch how the Patriots defended him, historically,

0:40:25.360 --> 0:40:27.919
<v Speaker 2>they don't get up the field on Leveon. They don't

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:31.279
<v Speaker 2>fire into their gaps and then react to him. They

0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:34.239
<v Speaker 2>kind of just stand up and hold their positions and

0:40:34.320 --> 0:40:38.319
<v Speaker 2>then fall into the zone wherever he's running. So if

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:41.479
<v Speaker 2>you watch, Leveon never got tackled for loss a lot

0:40:41.560 --> 0:40:44.600
<v Speaker 2>against the Patriots because they didn't want to get upfield. Rather,

0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:46.800
<v Speaker 2>they would stop him, you know, two yards down the field,

0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:49.200
<v Speaker 2>three yards and make him ineffective in that fashion. And

0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:51.920
<v Speaker 2>I think I don't care that John Harbaugh had an

0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:53.920
<v Speaker 2>extra week to prepare this for this game. I think

0:40:53.920 --> 0:40:56.360
<v Speaker 2>Bill Belichick is somebody who's been scheming for Lamar Jackson

0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:58.799
<v Speaker 2>the entire season, knowing how important this game will be

0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:01.840
<v Speaker 2>and how important their future playoff game might be. So

0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:03.920
<v Speaker 2>with all that being said, give me the under on

0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:07.680
<v Speaker 2>fifty nine and a half rushing yards for Lamar Jackson.

0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:10.399
<v Speaker 1>I really really like it for the reasons that you're saying.

0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know that Bell Jacks's gonna be like,

0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:15.080
<v Speaker 1>if we're gonna get big by Lamar Jackson throwing the ball,

0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:18.360
<v Speaker 1>I will live with that. But he's gonna take away

0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:21.160
<v Speaker 1>what they do best. That's what he does every single time.

0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:23.680
<v Speaker 1>My only concern with it is that I think with

0:41:23.760 --> 0:41:27.240
<v Speaker 1>a guy like Jackson who basically can have a broken

0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:30.360
<v Speaker 1>play and somehow find a way to scamper for a

0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:32.080
<v Speaker 1>big number, you know what I mean, And I take

0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:35.279
<v Speaker 1>a lot of QB rushing props. I don't know why.

0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:37.799
<v Speaker 1>Like I always see when I do my projections, which

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:42.520
<v Speaker 1>I do a lot, especially for fantasy football, if I

0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:45.280
<v Speaker 1>find a number that I think is just drastically different

0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:47.280
<v Speaker 1>than what I'm getting on the prop, which I do often,

0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:49.919
<v Speaker 1>I will take them. But it's scary with a guy

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:52.799
<v Speaker 1>like Jackson because again, they can hold him totally in check.

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:55.200
<v Speaker 1>It's like when you would bet against Tyreek Hill ever right,

0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 1>like you can hold him totally in check, and then

0:41:57.200 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 1>there's one play that's just gonna go off despite the

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:01.239
<v Speaker 1>fact that they schemes so well. So that would be

0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:03.280
<v Speaker 1>my only worry for it, but I agree it seems

0:42:03.320 --> 0:42:05.600
<v Speaker 1>like a low number, but I do like it because

0:42:05.600 --> 0:42:07.080
<v Speaker 1>you know that's exactly what they're gonna do.

0:42:08.040 --> 0:42:09.759
<v Speaker 2>For sure, it puts the fury go out of me

0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:12.680
<v Speaker 2>seeing his rushing totals so far this year one sixteen,

0:42:12.760 --> 0:42:16.120
<v Speaker 2>one fifty two, seventy sixty six, forty six and one

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:19.239
<v Speaker 2>twenty like of course, you know this is this is

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:22.439
<v Speaker 2>why speaking of fantasy, Lamar has so much value. He's

0:42:22.480 --> 0:42:25.520
<v Speaker 2>got the Konami code. He gets those one point for

0:42:25.600 --> 0:42:28.479
<v Speaker 2>ten yards rushing. But I just trust in the goat,

0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:30.520
<v Speaker 2>and that is Bill Belichick to keep him contained.

0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:33.799
<v Speaker 1>I can't blame him. I as I said, I'm gonna

0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:36.279
<v Speaker 1>get a little bolder on this one since I've been

0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:38.600
<v Speaker 1>hitting a bunch. I'm gonna I'm gonna try to ride

0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:42.080
<v Speaker 1>the wave here. And look, you and I talked about

0:42:42.080 --> 0:42:45.239
<v Speaker 1>that Jets Dolphins game and why like the over, and

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:47.400
<v Speaker 1>one of the things I think is gonna happen is

0:42:47.440 --> 0:42:49.920
<v Speaker 1>that a couple of Jets playmakers are gonna have big games,

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:52.480
<v Speaker 1>and one of them is going to be Robbie Anderson,

0:42:52.600 --> 0:42:55.080
<v Speaker 1>who is going to go over one hundred and twenty

0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:59.680
<v Speaker 1>five receiving yards and the odds are plus four twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's make that clear. This is not something that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm necessarily expecting to happen. He has done it twice

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<v Speaker 1>in his entire career, so this is certainly something where

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<v Speaker 1>the only reason to take it is because you are

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<v Speaker 1>getting more than four to one on your money. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets offense, this is you know, to the extent

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets offense can quote unquote get right. This is

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<v Speaker 1>what they're going to do here. Without Xavian Howard, it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be there's nobody who's really going to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to hang with him. You saw against the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think it was a ninety two yard

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown catch. They he can have an explosive play at

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<v Speaker 1>any given time. They do have chemistry, which they showed

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<v Speaker 1>last year. And this is completely anecdotal, so it really

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:44.319
<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter. But you know, there were all these trade

0:43:44.360 --> 0:43:46.799
<v Speaker 1>rumors and you expected him to go, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have the trade rumors with someone like Jamal Adams

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<v Speaker 1>who doesn't get traded and is now really angry, really

0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:57.160
<v Speaker 1>angry at being dangled. After the trade deadline passed, Robbie

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<v Speaker 1>Anderson put out a great tweet where he took the

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<v Speaker 1>scene from The Wolf of Wall Street where Leonardo DiCaprio

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<v Speaker 1>is basically saying I'm not going anywhere. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>like a very sort of adamant thing, and the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>liked it, you know, on the Jets Twitter feed liked it.

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like this is something where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a guy like Adams, you might get a little worried

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<v Speaker 1>about how he's going to react to this. Robbie, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think so. Robbie strikes me as the type of

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<v Speaker 1>guy who's gonna want to say, that's right, you held me,

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<v Speaker 1>you did the right thing here. I think this is

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<v Speaker 1>just going to be a smash spot for Le'Veon Bell.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna be a smash spot for Robbie Anderson.

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<v Speaker 1>So one hundred and twenty five is a big number.

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<v Speaker 1>As I said, he's only done it twice, but at

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<v Speaker 1>plus four to twenty five, that's a that's a number

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<v Speaker 1>that's value enough for me to go with it. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take Anderson over one hundred and twenty five receiving

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<v Speaker 1>yards against the Dolphins.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the narrative. Take let me pile on Robbie

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<v Speaker 2>Anderson's a South Florida guy. Went to South Plantation High

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<v Speaker 2>right in Broward County, so he's a homecoming for him.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll have family at the game, he'll want to show out.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go. This is you know what this is. This

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<v Speaker 2>is so funny. We're two just miserable Jets fans, and

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<v Speaker 2>despite everything we've seen this season, we are somehow optimistic

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<v Speaker 2>about I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>To be fair, they're playing a historically terrible team that

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<v Speaker 1>has no interest in winning. And even if the Dolphins

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<v Speaker 1>get out ahead, they stop playing in the second half.

0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:16.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean that that is what it is. They'll just

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<v Speaker 1>be like, shoot, we're winning. We got to find a

0:45:18.880 --> 0:45:20.960
<v Speaker 1>way to screw this all up, and so you know

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<v Speaker 1>there'll be something. But I agree. This is the most

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<v Speaker 1>optimistic take on the Jets for two Jets fans that

0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:30.560
<v Speaker 1>have probably ever been in the history of any sports

0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:33.560
<v Speaker 1>betting show. So hopefully we'll be right for this one.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, we've got a long way to go

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<v Speaker 1>before we're going to be really happy watching our team. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for joining me today. Rich. Remind everyone where they

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<v Speaker 1>can find more of you and your work.

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<v Speaker 1>All right? Thanks again for coming on the show. Rich

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