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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: We have much to discuss, everything coming together here today

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Speaker 2: in the news cycle, many different threads to pull on,

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Speaker 2: many things to make sense. Let's start here with the irs.

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Speaker 2: Whistleblowers is going to be testifying today on Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 2: I think they're going to tell us a lot of

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Speaker 2: what we already know, which is that the fix was in.

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Speaker 2: Hunter is going to skate and it was always going

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Speaker 2: to be that way, no matter how egregious the criminal

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Speaker 2: misconduct was. But we'll get some details. I think we'll

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Speaker 2: be rolling on that, meaning we'll be monitoring it because

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Speaker 2: it'll happen during at least start during our show. Jim Jordan,

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Speaker 2: congressman from Ohio, will join us in the second hour

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Speaker 2: also talk about it. Andy McCarthy will be with us

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Speaker 2: in the third hour. You all know Andy from a

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Speaker 2: Fox and National review. They'll be talking to us all

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Speaker 2: about the process here of the likely j six indict

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Speaker 2: against Trump, after Trump himself said yesterday on truth Social

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Speaker 2: that he expects some form of January six charges to

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Speaker 2: come down from the Jack Smith Special Prosecution.

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Speaker 3: So we will definitely get into that a.

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Speaker 2: Country music song has been pulled off of the country

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Speaker 2: music television circulation because the Left says it's it's violent

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Speaker 2: and anti I don't know, anti BLM. They've got problems

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Speaker 2: with it. That's what I'm seeing, Claire. I know you

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Speaker 2: talked about this on Fox. We'll break some of this down.

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Speaker 2: Jason Aldean has a song out so far he is standing.

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Speaker 1: You just said his name Buck, like you've never seen

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Speaker 1: the name before in your life.

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Speaker 2: I have heard it before, sir. I will have you know.

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Speaker 1: This is how I would talk about I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: think of something that I would not be familiar with

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Speaker 1: at all, Like how I would talk about advance physics.

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Speaker 1: And you know if I was reading how how some

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Speaker 1: scientific term existed and I just said it and I

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Speaker 1: had no time.

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Speaker 2: Well, I will tell you, sir, that I was listening

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Speaker 2: last night to try that in a small town. So

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Speaker 2: I am rapidly, rapidly becoming an expert in all things

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Speaker 2: mister Alden. And we'll discuss that in more detail coming

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Speaker 2: up here later on in the program plus play. You

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Speaker 2: know Wesley, and I mean your GW guys. You know

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Speaker 2: these schools, Wesley and University, perhaps most famous for being

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Speaker 2: the home of the naked dorm. That's a real thing,

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Speaker 2: a dorm where people walk around naked.

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Speaker 3: It's people that you would want to see naked.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, no, I haven't been there, but I can tell

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Speaker 2: you it's not. It's not people that you're going to

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Speaker 2: be excited to see naked. But they have gotten rid

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Speaker 2: of legacy admissions. Now they've said so, they're they're listening

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Speaker 2: into some people who are calling for that.

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Speaker 3: We'll get into it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, my favorite news shore I think of the week,

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Speaker 2: which I mentioned yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I do want to get to you a bit more

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Speaker 3: later too.

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Speaker 2: In and out Burger prohibiting employees in Arizona, Colorado, Nevada, Texas,

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Speaker 2: Utah from wearing a mask unless they have a note

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Speaker 2: from a doctor stating a clear medical need. There is

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Speaker 2: no clear medical put that aside. I told you I

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Speaker 2: love those in an out Burgers. I love them even

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Speaker 2: more now. I didn't know they could be more delicious,

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Speaker 2: but they are more delicious.

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Speaker 1: I love these guys. Buck my how to quote Michael Scott,

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Speaker 1: the turntables have turned. But remember in an Outburger refused

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Speaker 1: to check for vaccine cards in California. If I remember

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Speaker 1: if you wanted to go get a hamburger. They were

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Speaker 1: trying to say you couldn't get a hamburger, and they said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're not going.

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Speaker 3: To do this.

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Speaker 2: I kind of love these guys, Yes, I love them.

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Speaker 2: My favorite fast food well, I mean, you know, people

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Speaker 2: love Chick fil A too, and there's a lot to

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Speaker 2: love about Chick fil A. But for me, in an

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Speaker 2: out Burger number one, no question, my favorite fast food

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Speaker 2: chain and legitimately based on the food and now based

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Speaker 2: on how they run the company.

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Speaker 1: What I think they're moving to my town. I think

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Speaker 1: they're moving to Franklin, Tennessee and opening up like a

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Speaker 4: For me.

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Speaker 2: You know, Tennessee is starting to tell a lot of

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Speaker 2: some people down in Florida saying that Tennessee place sounds

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Speaker 2: pretty nice. All right, Clay, Let's jump over to Michigan

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 2: Getting into the serious side of things here for a second.

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Speaker 2: This was a story that broke yesterday after this show

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Speaker 2: finished up. Sixteen fake electors who signed certificates falsely claiming

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Speaker 2: President Donald I'm reading from CBS.

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Speaker 3: News To be clear, here, this is a quote.

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Speaker 2: Certificates falsely claiming President Donald Trump won Michigan in the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty election have been charged.

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Speaker 3: With multiple felonies.

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Speaker 2: State Attorney General Dana Nessel announced on Tuesday. This is

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Speaker 2: the first time any of the so called fake electors

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Speaker 2: have been charged with a crime related to the scheme,

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Speaker 2: versions of which took place in multiple states. Clay, sixteen

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Speaker 2: individuals charged with eight felonies. Let's play cut twenty seven

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Speaker 2: so you can hear the announcement of this.

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Speaker 5: We allege that sixteen Michigan residents met covertly in the

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Speaker 5: basement of Michigan GOP headquarters and knowingly and of their

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Speaker 5: own volition, signed their names to multiple certificates stating that

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Speaker 5: they were the duly elected and qualified electors for President

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Speaker 5: and Vice President of the United States of America for

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Speaker 5: the state of Michigan.

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Speaker 3: That was a lie.

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Speaker 5: They weren't the duly elected and qualified electors, and each

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Speaker 5: of the defendants knew it.

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Speaker 2: Clay, You know how one of the lines from Mago

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Speaker 2: World that I think has resonated the most, other than

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Speaker 2: make America Great Again, which is actually a Reagan line

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Speaker 2: from the eighties. Well, it's not surprising that did so well.

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Speaker 2: But it's they're not coming after me. This is Trump speaking.

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Speaker 2: They're coming after you, and I'm standing in the way.

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Speaker 2: Well now, when they're going after people, civilians, if you will,

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Speaker 2: or lower level political figures at the state level, to

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Speaker 2: of elections that they can agree or disagree with, but

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Speaker 2: to make it a crime. And this is probably just

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Speaker 2: the start of it. You're going to see this in

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Speaker 2: other places. The J six prosecutions clay in your mind.

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Speaker 2: Do you think people are seeing it's not just about Trump.

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Speaker 2: They're going to go after people all over the place

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Speaker 3: Who is connected in any way to this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I love the state of Michigan. My wife

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Speaker 1: A lot of them are listening right now. It's a

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Speaker 1: fabulous place. But Gretchen Whitmer is destroying it. And one

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Speaker 1: of the consequences of twenty twenty two is Democrats that

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Speaker 1: dictator and this is a political show trial. They want

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Speaker 1: to send a message to anyone in Michigan, including our

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Speaker 1: good friend Tutor Dixon, who we should probably get on

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Speaker 1: podcast is dominating. You can go listen to it in

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Speaker 1: the Clay and Buck feed, one of the best new

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Speaker 1: So far, she's doing.

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Speaker 3: Really, really well.

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Speaker 1: And I know a lot of you are listening to her,

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Speaker 1: but this is what's going on because and you kind

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Speaker 1: of hinted at it, but I think it's very important

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Speaker 1: to make clear to everyone. There was a legal theory

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Speaker 3: And I think a lot of.

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Speaker 1: People Buck don't recognize this, but when you vote for president,

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Speaker 1: you actually select the electors to go and cast their

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Speaker 1: has been a bit of a mess for some time

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Speaker 1: because it's clunky, and sometimes you have so called faithless electors.

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Speaker 1: That is, let's say, in my home state of Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: I believe we have three electoral votes, and that means

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four is going to get those eleven red

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Speaker 3: They will go and they will vote.

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Speaker 1: But some states do not prevent electors from casting ballots

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Speaker 1: for someone other than the person who won their state,

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Speaker 1: and so this has been an issue for at least

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Speaker 1: this entire century. I remember, going back to Bush vy

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Speaker 1: It hasn't turned into a big issue yet, but the

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Speaker 1: electoral college in general is messy in that way, and

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Speaker 3: They changed the law to.

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Speaker 1: Eliminate any ambiguity at all related to what the vice

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Speaker 1: president's role is on January sixth. So I don't understand

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Speaker 1: how you can criminalize a legal theory that has some

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Speaker 1: basis in constitutional law arguably right, Lawyers make arguments buck

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Speaker 1: because you'll file a briefing, for instance, and you'll say,

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Speaker 1: avenues to victory. And so when I see this, it

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Speaker 1: is directly political in nature, designed to criminalize the opposition

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Speaker 1: to the Democrat Party, and this just further strengthens the

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Speaker 1: authoritarian tendencies of Whitmer and the Democrat Party in the

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Speaker 2: It's also I think taking the prospect of a Fanny

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Speaker 2: Willis prosecution in Atlanta from a ninety percent to like

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Speaker 2: a ninety nine percent certainty, now right, I mean this

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Speaker 2: is you already have Michigan bringing criminal charges against just

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump in Georgia, I think, is going to be

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Speaker 2: facing another criminal trial. And this is where you get

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Speaker 2: into part of the strategy here. Remember, unfortunately, when people

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Speaker 2: play dirty like this, there are multiple ways they win. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: their favorite thing would be if they could actually get

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Speaker 2: a prosecution of Donald Trump that possibly locks him up

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Speaker 2: in prison.

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Speaker 3: Right, we talked about that yesterday.

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Speaker 2: But even if they can't get that, let's say the

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Speaker 2: cases are delayed till after the election, and maybe even

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Speaker 2: after the election.

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Speaker 3: If Trump doesn't win. We'll put that aside for a second.

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Speaker 2: Point being if they can have the whole process be

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Speaker 2: the punishment here, if they can have the count of

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Speaker 2: countless counts keep him constantly playing defense. This was part

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Speaker 2: of the Russia collusion narrative. Fortunately, people say, oh, well

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Speaker 2: Muller didn't Muller didn't work. Yeah, well, they paid a

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Speaker 2: price dealing with that. Anyone you talk to in the

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Speaker 2: Trump White House would tell you that the whole Muller thing,

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Speaker 2: a lot of folks are spending money, time, energy, anxiety

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Speaker 2: in Trump's orbit, including Trump himself. I talked to Trump

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Speaker 2: We know the irs whistleblower is going to be testifying

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Speaker 2: Jim Jordan of Ohio Congressman. Great to have you back, sir.

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Speaker 4: Good, good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Guys, What are you expecting from this today? I mean,

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Speaker 4: Well, I think first of all, we're going to learn

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Speaker 4: You're going to believe these guys and who is Sue

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Speaker 4: Frankly's story has not changed? Whose testimony has been consistent?

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Speaker 4: You might want to check it out. When is that happening?

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Speaker 2: Investment?

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Speaker 4: Never So, those are the kind of things that I

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Speaker 2: Congressman Jordan, Is anything going to come of any of this?

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Speaker 2: I mean, really, either from a congressional action or just

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Speaker 3: I mean, what has to happen?

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Speaker 2: We have a Republican president who comes in who decides

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Speaker 4: we're focused on in the Judiciary Committe. This is going

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Speaker 4: But in the Judiciary Committee, we're focused on using the

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Speaker 4: appropriations process to put limitations on how tax per dollars

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Speaker 4: writer language elements that we're going to get into those

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Speaker 4: those bills. And then, frankly, from from a just a

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Speaker 4: requires a new Justice Department for things to get different there.

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Speaker 4: And you know that's that's decided by we the people.

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Speaker 4: Every you know, the first Tuesday after the first money

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Speaker 1: So, Congressman, I think this is going to be again

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Speaker 1: really difficult to refute when these guys step out and

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Speaker 1: being able to see them as they speak, all of

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Speaker 1: these things. What do you expect the media to do?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: How do you expect CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, New York Times,

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Speaker 1: do you expect them to handle today's testimony?

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Speaker 4: Well, then the whistleblowers were compelling, but remember they're the investigators.

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Speaker 4: The prosecutors make the decision on what to charge, when

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Speaker 4: always want to go forward. They've been working on the case,

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Speaker 4: but in the end, it's the attorneys, it's the it's

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Speaker 4: the prosecutors make the decision, and they decided after looking

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Speaker 4: at all this that that, you know, after all, Hunter

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Speaker 4: Biden's getting charged. I think is going to be the argument.

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Speaker 4: The whistleblowers your right, Clay, we want to let them talk.

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Speaker 4: I always say, say they're whistleblowers, So let them blow

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Speaker 4: the whistle. Let them talk today in today's hearing, And

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Speaker 4: just like we had a hearing a few a few

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Speaker 4: months back with three FBI whistleblowers, Garrett O'Boyle, and he

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Speaker 4: got to talk and explain what the FBI did to

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Speaker 4: him and his family wouldn't let him get access to

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Speaker 4: his belonging because kids clothes for goodness sake. And when

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Speaker 4: you when you hear the retaliation and how it impacted

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Speaker 4: him and his family on a personal level, that is compelling,

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Speaker 4: and it just reinforces the facts he had given us

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Speaker 4: So I do think that's what I think the Left

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Speaker 4: is going to go with that narrative. Oh okay, these

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Speaker 4: they were looking at their years of experience and they

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Speaker 4: decided to go this way. But again, when you look

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Speaker 4: at their testimony, the prosecutors and the investigators were in

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Speaker 4: they changed because there were discussions, This is straight from

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Speaker 4: David White, Discussions taking place between the US Attorneys and

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Speaker 4: Delaware and Main Justice. So what were those discussions about,

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Speaker 4: and were those the reasons those discussions the reason that

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Speaker 2: And Jordan, you know, people have been saying we need

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Speaker 2: politicized IRS and those who are looking at something like

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Speaker 2: the Hunter Biden case specifically. Is it something that you

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Speaker 2: think Congress should look to try to have a hand

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Speaker 2: in reforming through legislation or is it just maybe cutting

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Speaker 2: back the funding because while everyone says, well we should

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Speaker 2: not everyone, but people have been saying, let's defund the FBI.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're going to defund it to fund something else.

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Speaker 2: It's not really clear to me how that necessarily plays out.

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Speaker 2: But cutting the IRS funding in half, I think a

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Speaker 2: lot of people would say, yeah, I think that'd be okay.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's certainly not given them what the eighty thousand

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Speaker 4: new agents they want. And we passed legislation to get

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Speaker 4: rid of that early in this Congress. Unfortunately just sits

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Speaker 4: over there in the Senate. But I do think you're

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Speaker 4: right too, is about the FBIA, we don't want to

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Speaker 4: defund the rank and file agents buy and large. Those

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Speaker 4: guys are doing a great job. What we do want

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Speaker 4: to do is change how the money is spent and

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Speaker 4: reallocate how things are done here in headquarters, here at

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Speaker 4: the Washington Field office here in the DC area, and

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Speaker 4: we are focused on doing that during the appropriations process.

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Speaker 4: But when it comes to the irs, you know, we

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Speaker 4: don't want these new agents and we, like I said,

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Speaker 4: that was the first bill we passed in the Republican

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Speaker 4: the debt fealing agreement from a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: Jem, do you think Congressman Jim Jordan with us right now?

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Speaker 1: He's doing fantastic work. Can't wait to see in about

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Speaker 1: twenty minutes when this hearing begins. Do you think, based

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Speaker 1: on all the evidence that you've seen that Merrick Garland

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Speaker 1: and maybe President Biden himself should be impeached by the House.

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Speaker 1: Would you vote to impeach both based on what you've

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Speaker 1: seen in the evidence so far.

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Speaker 4: I've said all along, when it comes to any impeachment question,

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Speaker 4: that's a decision for the entire conference because once you

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Speaker 4: go down that road, it consumes Congress. I mean I

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Speaker 4: was on the other side that just a few years ago,

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Speaker 4: defending help and defend President Trump, and I spent weeks

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Speaker 4: in the bunker and the basement of the Capitol and

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Speaker 4: doing depositions with with Adam Schiff and the whole thing.

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Speaker 4: So if you decide to go down that, that's that's

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Speaker 4: a big decision. But the Speaker's been clear, he says

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Speaker 4: we are getting much closer to an impeachment inquiry into

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Speaker 4: the actions of the Justice Department. So I'm with the Speaker.

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Speaker 4: I think we continue to get the facts, but if

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Speaker 4: it's if it's warranted, we have a constitutional duty to

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Speaker 4: go there. But we need to go into that with

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Speaker 4: our eyes wide open, because it truly, as you've all

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Speaker 4: remember from just five years ago and four years ago

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Speaker 4: in twenty nineteen when they impeached President Trump over the

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Speaker 4: you know, the phone call for getting to take it

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Speaker 4: consumes everything, and we need to understand that if we

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Speaker 4: if we go but if it's required, our constitutional duty

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Speaker 4: would would compel us to go there. So I want

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Speaker 4: to continue to get the facts. I do think it's

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Speaker 4: important that Chairman Comer gets to get to that interview

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Speaker 4: of Hunter Biden's business partner, and we and we have

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Speaker 4: this hearing today.

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Speaker 2: Congress and Jordan appreciate you being with us. Sarah, thanks again,

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Speaker 2: you bet guys.

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Speaker 4: Thanks take care.

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Speaker 3: You don't know what's you don't know right, but you could.

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Speaker 1: On the Sunday Hang with Clay and Buck podcast, Welcome

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Speaker 1: Bouck Edin Glay Travis Bucks exted show. John King and

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Speaker 1: Dana Bash are part of the CNN ensemble. You know

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Speaker 1: how they have that desk Buck that I mean has

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Speaker 1: like fifteen people on it. Now, if you ever have

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Speaker 1: CNN on, and I realize that a lot of you

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Speaker 1: do not put CNN on, but one of the things

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Speaker 1: we do is have to watch CNN somewhat regularly for

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Speaker 1: our jobs and at least watch clips. And anytime there's

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Speaker 1: breaking news, particularly as it involves Trump, they break out

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Speaker 1: their super massive desk with as many people possible sitting there,

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Speaker 1: and oftentimes they end up saying a lot of ridiculous things.

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Speaker 1: But they caught Jack Smith, the in charge obviously special

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Speaker 1: counsel here investigating Trump. He's going to charge him on

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Speaker 1: jan six, He's already charged him on South Florida. And

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Speaker 1: he went to a subway. Went to subway. It's lunchtime.

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Speaker 1: Probably a lot of you out going around variety of

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Speaker 1: places to go grab your lunch. And this is John

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Speaker 1: King and Dana Bash saying this is a really serious

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Speaker 1: message being sent to Trump. I couldn't even believe this

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Speaker 1: was real when I listened. Here's their discussion.

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Speaker 6: Remember when the classified document's target letter. When Trump announced that,

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Speaker 6: there's a lot of commentary goes Jack Smith making a mistake?

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Speaker 6: Care is he leaving this all to Donald Trump? And

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Speaker 6: then they released the indictment and we all said, wow, wow,

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Speaker 6: we read it. We saw the documentation, We saw the

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Speaker 6: level of detail. Jack Smith going to subway today is

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Speaker 6: a message to Donald Trump. Donald Trump tries to intimidate people,

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Speaker 6: he tries to bully people, he tries to scare you away.

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Speaker 6: That was Jack Smith with no words and a simple

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Speaker 6: five dollars sub in his hand, saying I'm here, I'm

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Speaker 6: not going to Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The imagery was intentional and spoke by him.

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Speaker 2: So much like a guy that just is ready to

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Speaker 2: stand in defense of the republic. The way he put

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Speaker 2: that Mayo on that foot long really shows everybody that

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Speaker 2: he's in it to win it play.

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Speaker 3: Is that the dumbest commentary you've heard all year? It

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Speaker 3: might be the dumbest.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's one thing for John King to say it,

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Speaker 1: he's really sending a message. Well, what if he had

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Speaker 1: gone to Jimmy John's instead. I think the message you

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Speaker 1: would have been sending is I have better taste than subs.

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Speaker 1: But that might just be me. What if he had

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Speaker 1: gone to Raisin Canes, the best chicken tenders in America?

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Speaker 1: What kind of messages he sitting?

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Speaker 3: Then?

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Speaker 2: Lights are our bud light and our Subway sponsorships on

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Speaker 2: fire here like they're nothing.

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Speaker 1: I ateed Subway a lot before they felt we found

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Speaker 1: out that that fat guy like kids Jared, I thought

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Speaker 1: that was a pretty effective advertising campaign. Again, before we

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Speaker 1: found out that he was a kid porn guy. When

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Speaker 1: he just lost a lot of weight, he seemed fairly likable.

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Speaker 1: And I think he's currently in federal prison for child porn.

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Speaker 1: So that's not a good direction for Subways advertising campaign

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Speaker 1: to go. But for Dana bash there buck to follow

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Speaker 1: up what John King said, I think what did she say?

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Speaker 3: It spoke volumes? What volumes?

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Speaker 1: You could write an entire book about what Jack Smith

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Speaker 1: going to get a Subway sub sent message. This volumes

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Speaker 1: not just one book, Buck, It's like the Encyclopedia Britannica

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Speaker 1: of fast food orders. It's so incredibly stupid. I can't

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Speaker 1: believe that it's real. Well, let's remember what they did

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Speaker 1: to with Muller. I mean, I I mean I was

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Speaker 1: covering that very closely, day in and day out, I

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Speaker 1: was in d C, living in DC near Capitol Hill,

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Speaker 1: near the White House for most of the peak if

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Speaker 1: you will, of the Muller prosecution or not sorry, investigation,

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Speaker 1: not prosecution. But they were like, yeah, Muller, this guy

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Speaker 1: is like the ultimate g man. You know, he's he's

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Speaker 1: a steely eyed, square jawed veteran that gets his man

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Speaker 1: like he makes elliott Ness look like a wimp.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: It was just the whole thing. And then he went

656
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Speaker 2: out there and you're like, this guy's like mister Magoo

657
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Speaker 2: when he was testifying. But they created this whole, you know,

658
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Speaker 2: this whole theory of of like the ultimate because this

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00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 2: is their hero narrative against you know, Trump as the

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Speaker 2: great Satan, right, and so in this case they're just

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Speaker 2: switched and all you know, if you are on their team,

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, the media acts like you're you're brilliant, handsome,

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Speaker 2: brave and wonderful. If you're against them, they park outside

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Speaker 2: your house and uh and you know, harass you and

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Speaker 2: your children.

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Speaker 1: I just what a message he's sending when he went

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Speaker 1: to go get this subway. So I mean, do they

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Speaker 1: clear this with anybody on the sea, And that they

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Speaker 1: were like John, okay, you know, because television is typically scripted,

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Speaker 1: did they come and tell John like, Hey, we got

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Speaker 1: this footage of Jack Smith at subway.

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Speaker 3: We need you to weigh in. What are you going

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Speaker 3: to say?

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Speaker 2: It's like I'm sending a message and then day you

675
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Speaker 2: gotta remember that about CNN, nobody's watching CNN is now

676
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Speaker 2: really an equivalent, you know for the viewer, so to speak.

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Speaker 2: CNN reminds me of how like some of these TVs

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00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 2: will just have they'll turn into like a background aquarium

679
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Speaker 2: image or something, and you know it's there's like fish

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00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 2: swimming around on the screen, or there's like a mountain

681
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Speaker 2: view with some a light rainstorm coming through. For Live

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Speaker 2: CNN is is like a security blanket.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: They just have it on the background and they don't

685
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Speaker 2: care what's being said because nothing of any real importance is.

686
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Speaker 3: Being said day in, day out. So that's how it goes.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting, Buck, I was thinking about this, like you're

688
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Speaker 1: talking about, like kind of the dull sound in the background.

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Speaker 1: I was at the University of Michigan because my oldest

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Speaker 1: son is at summer camp there, and I was walking

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Speaker 1: through one at their student union. They had CNN and

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Speaker 1: MSNBC both playing in the student union. Of course Fox

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Speaker 1: News is nowhere to be seen, and it's probably not

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Speaker 1: a surprise. Buck And I think I mentioned this on

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Speaker 1: the show, but I was in disbelief over the number

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Speaker 1: of twenty somethings and also probably teenagers who were walking

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Speaker 1: around wearing masks on the University of Michigan campus, many

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Speaker 1: of them outdoors. And this is what we were talked about.

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Speaker 1: We can talk about this in the next hour in

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Speaker 1: and out Burger coming out and saying, yeah, employees can't

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Speaker 1: wear masks anymore. It's a sign of mental illness to

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Speaker 1: me now when I see someone wearing a mask.

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Speaker 3: It has been for a long time.

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Speaker 2: Well, but for some people, I think it's more Now

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00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: there's the anxiety disorder lunatics running around with the masks on.

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Speaker 2: But then there's also people for whom it is a

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Speaker 2: fashion statement with political overtone.

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Speaker 3: Right, That's that's what it's meant to be.

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Speaker 2: It's meant to be like, look, I know, I'm it's

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Speaker 2: pronouns in the bio. Masking up now is pronouns in

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00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: the bio. The same thing. It's just showing everybody what

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Speaker 2: team you're playing for so to speak politically, and that's

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Speaker 2: why people continue to do it. There are people on

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Speaker 2: my plane down to Florida with n ninety five masks on.

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Speaker 2: I just want to be like, that's really uncomfortable and

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Speaker 2: really stupid. Can I free your face? And they would

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Speaker 2: think that I was the fascist play. That's how this goes.

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Speaker 2: Walking around the outdoors on a campus as a kid

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Speaker 2: scary