1 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, you can add into 2 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: the Rams offensive daughter who will not play this week, 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: at least according to reports. Though for myself at MJ, 4 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: it's not who is or isn't playing for that offense, 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: but who will be on the field defensively. That's where 6 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: our focus is ahead of week seventeen. But first, Kyler Murray, 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: what he did and more importantly, what he said about 8 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 1: his availability on Sunday at Cardinals cover two, Episode three 9 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: eighty one, and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover 10 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: two with Craig Grigolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two 11 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: is presented by Hyunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals 12 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts visit Acy Cardinals dot Com 13 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: Slash Podcasts. Murray rolls to the right, throws near sight 14 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: of Fitz part He's into the nside for the touch down. 15 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: Here's Craig Grielou and Mike Jarecki well as they like 16 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: to say, MJ. A video has gone viral at last check, 17 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: almost seventeen thousand views, courtesy at cards Chatter otherwise known 18 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: as Darren Urban of Asy Cardinals dot Com. Because he 19 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: has video of Kyler Murray practicing during the open portion 20 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: earlier today, which one is good to see and two 21 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: leaves everyone, I think, feeling much much better here on 22 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: a Wednesday heading into week seventeen, as opposed to Sunday 23 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: nights Monday, at any point on Tuesday when you haven't 24 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: seen or heard from the Cardinals quarterback. Yeah, and I 25 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: think it's also important to where you know, they could 26 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: have waited listen, they could list them limited, but the 27 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: way he's moving looking at Darren's video, looked like he 28 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: was fine, and it's you know, he could play gamesmanship. 29 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: But you know, I think we would have known something 30 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: over the last twenty four to four hours, maybe from 31 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: a national perspective where things get linked out, but you know, 32 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: it was funny over the last two days is you 33 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: know Bryce Perkins possibly against christ Traveler And you know, again, 34 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: I think the focus should be on Cardinals offense against 35 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: that Rams defense, but I understand it's a storyline, and 36 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: you know, when you look at the Rams situation, no 37 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: Cooper cup I guess we'll find out more if he's 38 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: officially out, but he isn't quote a protocol and looks 39 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: like you know, between tracing five days and being out 40 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: for ten days, that would put them out the running 41 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: back situation, and then obviously their young quarterback, who's you 42 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: have to take an NFL snap in a real game. 43 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,959 Speaker 1: But you know, I get at their storylines and you 44 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: are always looking for that next guy, and you know, 45 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: so that makes sense. But really it's really about this 46 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: Cardinal's offense. And if you're gonna only go to score 47 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: twenty twelve points, it's not going to be enough. Now, 48 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: they did score twenty eight on him the first time, 49 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: but they gave up thirty eight points. Yeah, and you 50 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: certainly want your number one quarterback on the field against 51 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: this Rams defense. For those that might not have seen 52 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: the video as of yet, it's a short clip Murray 53 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: circling and tackling dummy and then throwing into a net 54 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: and of course throwing a perfect spiral into the middle hole. 55 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: Murray is only going about i'd say less than half speed, 56 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: so it's it's not much, but it is a glimpse, 57 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: and of course, once again good to see on a Wednesday. 58 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: Of course, even better to hear from Murray himself Wednesdays. 59 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: He does speak to the media. We did not hear 60 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: him postgame on Saturday, and according to Murray, quote, yeah, 61 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: I'll be playing end quote on Sunday. So that again 62 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: good to see and good to hear. How about one 63 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: of our one of the reporters asked him follow a 64 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: question about I just want to clarify, are you playing 65 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: on Sunday? And he and Kyler knows two. Well, He's like, 66 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: you want to treat that up that I'm gonna play. Yeah, 67 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: I'm playing. He's learning, Craig, he's learning man year two 68 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: and already a veteran when it comes to dealing with 69 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: the media. He was playing if we're hey, you need clarification, 70 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: you know, especially if you're one of the big networks 71 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: like ESPN. I get it. Lower leg injury is all 72 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: we know. And according to Murray, he was hit in 73 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: the right spot. That's the only thing Murray would explain 74 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: on that. Alex Barrett hit on the final pass attempt, 75 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 1: his final pass attempt on Saturday, and again we it 76 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: didn't look like much and it could have been a 77 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: heck of a lot worse, and I think Barrett kind 78 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: of leaned back a little bit led up, I guess, 79 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: is the better way to phrase it. Once Murray let 80 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: that football go and maybe in the course of the 81 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: contacts or when Murray landed, he just got up gingerly 82 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: walked off and into the locker room. So I think 83 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: he'll be fine, he said as much. And I'm not 84 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: worried about it one bit. Well, I'm just glad, whether 85 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: limited he was out there. We got video. You know, 86 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: they say a picture says a thousand words, But Craig, 87 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: I'm glad it's not a knee because not to get 88 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: severe here and speculate, but an MCL injury is very 89 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: painful and it's where you have to really grab the 90 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: outside of your leg just to kind of put pressure 91 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: and it feels better. I know Larry was dealing with that. 92 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: It's probably the only time he's missed games in the past. 93 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: When they say lower that's you know, again, speculator. Could 94 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: be a shin, it could be the calf, but obviously 95 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: the fact that he was out there and again Stack, 96 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: you know, good practices. We know this team knows what's 97 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: at State. They know if they don't win, they go 98 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: home seasons over. So I like what I'm hearing, but 99 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 1: we got to see it on Sunday. Well, what we 100 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: did not see during the open portion of practice earlier today, 101 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds, Max Williams not spotted. Edmonds has a hip 102 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: Williams and ankle and if you do not have a 103 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds on the field, that certainly factors into the 104 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: Cardinals offense as far as the one two punch with 105 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: him and Kenyan Drake on the ground game. Good news 106 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: though Jayalen Thompson, Drake Kirkpatrick were seen practicing. We have 107 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: not seen Thompson in a game since week eleven. He's 108 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: missed five straight Sundays, and then Kirkpatrick was active on 109 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: Saturday mj but did not play. He basically stood next 110 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: to the banch Joseph the entire game on the sidelines 111 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: wearing a beanie. So must have been more of a 112 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: in case of an emergency situation in which he was 113 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: going to be on that field, And perhaps there was 114 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: a thinking that maybe they didn't need him against the 115 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: forty nine ers. Obviously they did and they are certainly 116 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: going to need him this week. Well, you know, with 117 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: Kevin Peterson, he also plays on special team, so you know, 118 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: I do. I don't know about taking any opponent lightly. 119 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: I think he's been dealing with an injury and he 120 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: was going to be an insurance and you know, instead 121 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: of playing sixty five snaps and maybe he comes in 122 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: the third or fourth quarter and place half of that. So, 123 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: and he's a veteran guy. He knows the defense so 124 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: that you know, you get the communication down there. But 125 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: you know, I like Chris Banjo, but he is a backup. 126 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: And you know, both of the Thompson guys haven't been 127 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: able to stay healthy. But we know Jalen's got a 128 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: much bigger upside than Deontay at this point in time. 129 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: I think there's room for both of them, but just 130 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: getting him back in the lineup, and again if they alternate, rotate, 131 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: I think it will help the defense because those are 132 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: those are Day one stars. Unfortunately, you just haven't been 133 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: able to see him as much as I think the 134 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: Cardinal's prefer and I'm sure they prefer. Well, Kevin Peterson 135 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: got a nice run Deonte Thompson as well, who was 136 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: in on a couple of tackles. So perhaps he's taking 137 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: that next step because he was kind of behind Jalen 138 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: when you were talking about the Thompson twins. It's just 139 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: Jalen hasn't been able to stay healthy. But he is 140 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: that one player in that safety room that Vance Joseph 141 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: always points to as far as being a great tackler 142 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: next to Buddha Baker, and you would love to have 143 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: both of those players here in week seventeen. Of course, 144 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: it is a huge matchup when or go home. We've 145 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: been talking about here on Cardinals Cover two. Yeah, and 146 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: and the fact is that you know, left to wait 147 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: and see how much these guys are doing in practice 148 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: based on the injury report. But you bring up a 149 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: good point, and we're going to get into how this 150 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: Cardinals offense can we attack this really good Rams defense 151 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: pretty much ranked in the top five across the board. 152 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: Maybe we go back to the Philadelphia game where their 153 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: front seven even though they didn't have their specialties in 154 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: the second end. But you know, Kenyan Drake's got to 155 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: carry the load if that's the case. But we'll wait 156 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: and see, because I do think Chase Evans they missed 157 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: him in the last game. You didn't play in the 158 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: second half. We know how much more he's involved in 159 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: the passing game. I think he's one of the top 160 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: three or four targets after Hop and Larry, and you know, 161 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 1: I think he's in there where Darren Arnold when it 162 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: comes to touches and targets. And now you're just gonna 163 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: have to see, you know, Kyler doesn't seem like he's 164 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: going to be limited, otherwise they would make adjustments. So 165 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: and then we we'll see about DJ Foster and Jonathan Warred. 166 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: I still don't think, you know, I don't know if 167 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: you can bring you know up at week seventeen, and 168 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: you know what we're gonna get into is, you know, 169 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: if they can't run the football. When I say can't, 170 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: if you're not going to run for one fifty, you're 171 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: gonna have to throw it. And we know their secondary 172 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: they don't get enough credit because everything starts up front 173 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: with Aaron Donald and Brockers, and then you throw in 174 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: Leonard Floyd, who has been a really good pick up. 175 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, I you know they're gonna have you have 176 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: to try to run the football, and we could see 177 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: Cardinals play a little bit more twelve personnel, you know, 178 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: if Max Williams is healthy or Darrell Daniels is getting 179 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: more time. And then you got Dan Arnold, who's kind 180 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: of a you know, a guy that can do a 181 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: little bit of both we could see them try to 182 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: win the line of scrimmage, So we'll get into that 183 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: some of the details. But yeah, I mean to me, 184 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: as we point out the entire season, the run sets 185 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: up the pass. Even though Cliff said they'll throw at 186 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: forty times, so they'll run at forty times. And if 187 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: they're running at forty times, that's really good because you're winning, 188 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: and you're winning at the line of scrimmage, and that 189 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: means you can run the clock out if that happens 190 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,359 Speaker 1: to be the case in the fourth quarter. A Wednesday 191 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals covered two presented by Hunday Proud partner 192 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. You mentioned Murray and the fact 193 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: that you know, if he's limited in any way whatsoever. 194 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: I went back and just looked at the numbers from 195 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: last year, Week seventeen at the Rams. Murray then dealing 196 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: with a hamstring injury, and he was a pocket pascher 197 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: that entire game through for three hundred and twenty five yards, 198 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: two touchdowns, was intercepted twice, had no rushing yards. He 199 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: was basically stationary and the Rams and knew it immediately 200 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: and adjusted accordingly. But the fact that he was able 201 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: to throw three hundred and twenty five yards. I think 202 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: is a good sign because we have seen it now. 203 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: Of course, it's a different Rams defense in twenty nineteen 204 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: verses twenty twenty. You look back at the earlier meeting 205 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 1: in week thirteen, and Murray could not do anything. The 206 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: Cardinals offense really couldn't do anything, especially in that first half. 207 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: Murray only had one hundred and seventy three passing yards, 208 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: did have three touchdowns, but turned the ball over twice 209 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, was intercepted and then lost a fumble. 210 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: Maybe if he doesn't have those two turnovers, it's a 211 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: different story as opposed to a thirty eight twenty eight setback. Yeah, 212 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: and you know you want the ball on Kyler Murray's 213 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: hands if you're trying to come from behind. We know 214 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: NFL games usually a score, whether it's seven points or 215 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: a field goal. You're down by four, so you need 216 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: a touchdown, you know, Correct me if I'm wrong. That's 217 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: back to back weeks where he's throwing an interception in 218 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: the end zone. Correct, correct, And yes, the red zone 219 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: turnovers have been huge three in the past two weeks. 220 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: If you include DeAndre Hopkins's fumble as well, that's got 221 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: to get better. I mean, again, you're trailing and you're 222 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: trying to get a score or maybe you get an 223 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: on site kick. There's two things, and I'll focus more 224 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: on the offseason. Is the red zone passing. We know 225 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: this team is setting records running the football and the 226 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: red zone. A lot of it comes from Kenyan Drake 227 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: and Kyler Murray. And sometimes you know they'll use maybe 228 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: a jet sweep or a bubble screening get in there. 229 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: But two things that I think he has to work 230 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: on is when you're in that fourth quarter, you can't 231 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: afford those mistakes throwing off your back foot kind of 232 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: floating the ball a little bit versus putting them more 233 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: a little bit or a velocity. And I'm surprised that 234 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: he doesn't throw on the run better than he has. 235 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: You see other quarterbacks and it's not like he has 236 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: to stop. It's it's his motion going out there. He's 237 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 1: got the arm strength, he's got the accuracy, he's got 238 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: the ability to you know, you know, usually you go 239 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: through one two possessions, you look for your check down 240 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: and then you improvise. But I want to see him 241 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: become better on the run because I think like the Chiefs, 242 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: like maybe the Browns and we're talking about good receivers 243 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: there and maybe the Ravens. Maybe not the more tight 244 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: ends is these guys they get separation and when you 245 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: had a guy that can hold the ball four or 246 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: five six seconds, receivers usually come back to the ball. 247 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: Maybe Tyreek Hill will go over the top. So that's 248 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: one thing I want him to work on, and it's 249 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 1: not going to happen overnight. It's something in the offseason 250 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: because I haven't seen enough of him throwing on the run. 251 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: We know he can roll out to the left side, 252 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 1: and that's a tough throw for a right handed quarterback 253 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: across his body. We know you can throw from the 254 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: hash mark across the body on an out route to hop. 255 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: I just want to see in a lot of quarterbacks 256 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: to roll out to the right because they're more comfortable. 257 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: We see Aaron Rodgers make a living on that stuff, 258 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: like Patrick Mahomes a little bit different arm angle, and 259 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: I think Murray can do that. So it's not going 260 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: to happen overnight, but that's something I thought we would 261 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: see more of him throwing on the run considering they 262 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: got receivers that can come back to the ball, good 263 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: possession receivers and Larry Fitzgerald hop and that put Christian 264 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: Kirk in there for the most part. And those are 265 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: higher percentage throws, especially without traffic in front of you, 266 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: unless you catch the defense and they read it well 267 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you've got a couple 268 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: of hands in your face. But those rollouts are designed 269 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: to give the quarterback better vision down the field and 270 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: certainly a better area to throw the football at. And 271 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: that I think is we've seen a little bit more 272 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: of what we've been asking for, more of that from 273 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. The other thing is is stepping up in 274 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: the pocket as opposed to drifting back. We're all impressed 275 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: on how well he throws off his back foot, but 276 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: unless you're getting pressured, that's not a good throw to 277 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: make because you have to adjust and put more strength, 278 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: more air under the football. And it looks great when 279 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: it connects, but nine times out of ten, you're gonna 280 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: throw the ball short and get intercepted or it's going 281 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: to miss your target as the wide receiver. So step 282 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: up in the pocket. That's also predicated on the offensive 283 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: line forming that pocket for Murray to step into Yeah, 284 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: and that's three things we should look for next year. 285 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: More stepping up. He's done a better job as of 286 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: late when they kind of tweaked their offense a little bit. Again, 287 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: a first quarter interception in the end zone, that means 288 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: you show we were able to drive down the field. 289 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: Fourth quarter interception when you're either trying to get the 290 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: leader tie the game. That's going to improve. And then 291 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: throwing on the run. The thing about you know the 292 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: Cardinals this year, we watched Teddy Bridgewater, we watched Josh Allen, 293 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: We've watched Jalen Hurts, we watched c. J. Bethard, we 294 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: watched Jerik goff All rolling out, bootlegs, waggle plays and 295 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: if you notice Craig, you cut the field in half 296 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: and a guy rolls with you. And the Cardinals have 297 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: tried it with Christian Kirk a few times. Whether you're 298 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: in the red zone or forty to forty, which sometimes 299 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: are coming off a turnover, you take a shot down 300 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: the field because you're playing for field position if not 301 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: a score. But when you roll out, you've got a 302 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: couple options. You could throw your first guy or your 303 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: second guy, in other words, short middle and again it's 304 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: just like almost an extended run play if it's a 305 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: five or six yard pass. So they've they've run that 306 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: part of their offense, but they've had a hard time 307 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: defending it. And I think we're going to see that 308 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: from John Wolfer on Sunday because that's their offense. He's 309 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: ran that offense before, and he's a lot more athletic, 310 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: more mobile than a Jared Golf Talking about John Wolfer, 311 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: that's the one thing that I've read. I haven't watched 312 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: any tape. There's hardly any tape out there unless you're 313 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: going back to his AAF days or preseason twenty nineteen 314 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: or Wake fours. But he does have great numbers in 315 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: those particular settings. We just haven't seen him in the 316 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: ultimate setting, and that is the National Football League. And 317 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: as you mentioned at the top of the show, no 318 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: running back. As far as Darryl Henderson is concerned, he's 319 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: on IR. You don't know about Cam Akers. It certainly 320 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: seems like it's unlikely that he'll be available. And then 321 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup you're leading receiver. He's on the reserve COVID 322 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: nineteen list, and it doesn't sound like he's going to 323 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: be available this week. So you're without your starting quarterback, 324 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: you're leading rusher, and you're leading receiver. Yet I'm still 325 00:16:55,600 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: somewhat hesitant because of what Sean McVay is capable of 326 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: doing and has shown, specifically against the Arizona Cardinals. I 327 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: don't think their offense is going to change. I really don't. 328 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: And there were times that Sean McVay was frustrated with 329 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: jeriic off I mean he didn't play particularly well. Now, 330 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: maybe as a team didn't play particularly well because it 331 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: only scored nine points. But you know, Seattle's playing much better. 332 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: But see, I don't only scored thirteen on him. It 333 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: wasn't like they put up twenty five. And Seattle's got 334 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: you know, DK Metcalf and the one two punch Chris 335 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: Carson and Shod Penny and Tyler Lockett and you know 336 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: they're tight ends. But I mean again it's it's I 337 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: don't think their offense is going to change. And I 338 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: agree with you. I've watched some film. Now. The funny 339 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: thing is he actually started to apply to go to 340 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: Wall Street and then the hot shots called, and so 341 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: he hasn't going back to school or anything, but that 342 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: he was at close to hanging it up there. There 343 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: is some preseason film out there of them. Again, I 344 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: think they're gonna run the same offense as I mentioned 345 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: on Monday, possibly that there's a reason why Sean mcvayh 346 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: chose him over Blake Bortles. Now Bordles, you know, he's 347 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: probably gonna be on the fifty three man roster because 348 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: they poached him. And I don't know if that's official, 349 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: but Bryce Perkins signed to the practice question, Okay, Bryce 350 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: pick Perkins, but they felt and you know, you look 351 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: at some teams like the Seahawks, you know who's their 352 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: backup quarterback. You know, the Niners, we know who those 353 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: guys are because they played a lot in Nick Mullins 354 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 1: and C. J. Bethart. And we know the Cardinals gore 355 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: going with Stravelers. So it's interesting how they really never 356 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: felt the value of bringing in a veteran quarterback, and 357 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: they must they made a decision going in a season 358 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: they were comfortable with him. Now, I don't you know. 359 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: Sean was asked about him in August and he said, 360 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: you know, we hope we're not in that situation, but 361 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,719 Speaker 1: he's been in our system, so we think he can 362 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: run our offense, and I think that's their their their 363 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: their point of nothing's really going to change now. Obviously 364 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: the Cardinals are gonna have to approach it a little 365 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: bit different on the defensive side. Let's skip back to 366 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: the Cardinals offense and Kyle the Murray is. He was 367 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: asked earlier today about his leg injury and how that 368 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: might affect him at all, and he said, quote, there 369 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: is no holding back if we lose, I'm home chilling, 370 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm fine end quote. So it certainly sounds like, as 371 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: we heard from Justin Pugh earlier in the week, all 372 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: hands on deck, everyone is available, and no one is 373 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: one hundred percent healthy at this point in a season. 374 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: But it certainly sounds like we are going to see 375 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray with the ability to throw and run. He 376 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: did not have that in Week seventeen a year ago, 377 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: and the fact that he did have seventy five rushing 378 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: yards against the forty nine ers is great. But it 379 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: can't all be from the quarterback. It has to be 380 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 1: a combination of Kenyan Drake, Chase Edmonds, DJ Foster, whomever. 381 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: Because if you want to have somewhat of a balanced offense, 382 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: you can't have the quarterback throwing for three hundred yards 383 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: and running for one hundred yards. That's great, it's going 384 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: to happen once a season. Perhaps you need that balance 385 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: with a running back handling the running game, and I 386 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: don't think we've seen that over the last couple of 387 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: weeks with Kenyan Drake. Whether that's him, the offensive line, 388 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: or credit to the opposing defense, I think it's a combination. 389 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: But well, let's start with the Cardinals because they control 390 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 1: the temple when they're on the field, and you know, 391 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: it's about winning one on one matchups. And we got 392 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: a chance to listen to Justin Pugh and DJ Humphreys 393 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: and listen. They need to run the football because you 394 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: know last week, I think he had a thirty yard 395 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: run Murray. Yes, okay, So I'll take those because those 396 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: could be backbreakers, especially if it's a third down play. Now, 397 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: you don't want to be behind the sticks too far. 398 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: You want to be in manageable. But you know, I 399 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: could take that. But the offensive line is going to 400 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: have to win at the line of scrimmage and that's 401 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: going to be a chore. I mean, they're going against 402 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 1: a really good front. Compare them to maybe the Eagles 403 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: most recent game, and that's why I think we may 404 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 1: see a little bit of two tight ends. But I 405 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: think the play action, the PRIP pistol, the zone read, 406 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have to pull out all all 407 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: the things we've seen this year, and then you're gonna 408 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: have to hope that Hopkins can get open, and if 409 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: he's being covered by Ramsey, then somebody else is gonna 410 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: have to do it. But I just don't know if 411 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: they can line up and run the football every single 412 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: down and expect to have success where you've got to 413 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: pick up three or four first downds. I mean, you 414 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: look at the Rams and they're holding opposing rushing yards 415 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: ninety four point one, which is third in the NFL. Now, 416 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: passing they're given up about two hundred and fifty three, 417 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: which is tied for twelve. As for the Cardinals, they're 418 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: giving up one hundred and twenty seven yards per se 419 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: twenty third, and they're going up two hundred and fifty 420 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: yards and the passing game or posing two twenty seven, 421 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: which is ranked tenth. So I mean, something's got to 422 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: give here, Craig Well, and I think it starts with 423 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake You don't need him to hit one hundred yards, 424 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: but you do need to have him be effective, and 425 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: he hasn't been the past two weeks. Yeah, the Cardinals 426 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: did have one hundred and twenty yards against the forty 427 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: nine ers, but Drake only had forty five yards the 428 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: week earlier against the Eagles twenty six yards. He needs 429 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: to get to that sixty five seventy seventy five yard 430 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: mark for this offense to really be humming and moving 431 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: the ball up and down the field, converting on third down, 432 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: moving the chains and getting into the red zone. I 433 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: hate to put it all on one player. Well, yes, 434 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: it falls on Kyler Murray first and foremost, but Kenyan Drake, 435 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: I think ultimately is the key to how well this 436 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: offense performs on Sunday and helpfully going into the postseason. 437 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: If the Rams take Kenyan Drake away, it is certainly 438 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: going to make it much more difficult for Kyler Murray 439 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: to do it by himself. Is he capable, Absolutely, But 440 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: that is a lot to put on any quarterback, whomever 441 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: you want to throw out there. Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, 442 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. You have to get some help, and I 443 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: don't think Murray has had a lot of help in 444 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks. Yeah, I mean, if you 445 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: say eighteen for forty five, that tells me that's two 446 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: point five yards of carry. Correct. All right, Now, we 447 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: know he's been better in the second half of the season. 448 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: He does get better as the game goes on. But 449 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 1: if they're if they're behind the sticks or thirty and 450 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: eight plus, they're gonna they're gonna pin their airs back 451 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: and they can get pressure with four and drop seven 452 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: in the covers, and that's gonna make you throw into 453 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: tight windows. Not saying he can't do it, but how 454 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: much our cardinal wide receivers getting separation besides Hopkins. So 455 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: those are all factors. But yeah, even you know, like 456 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 1: I said, I'll love those thirty yard runs. I like 457 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 1: when he takes off and get a first down, he 458 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: puts the arm out, gets out of bounce. But to 459 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: sit here and say he's got to have seventy five yards, 460 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: I just don't think that's the game plan going in. 461 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 1: Anything he gives you is a plus. But Ken and 462 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 1: Drake is gonna have to be this bell cop and 463 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: he's you know, they paid him a good amount of money. 464 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: This year, and you know running backs you wonder about. 465 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: You know, everyone said they're gonna run him in the ground. 466 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: Well with the one two punch with Chase, you were 467 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: able to kind of preserve him a little bit. And 468 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: he's had some good games. But this is the time, 469 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: this is the reason why they made the trade for 470 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: him last year. He came in here and did a 471 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: really nice shot. He's got a ton of touchdowns since 472 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: he's been with their Cardinals. I think he's a couple 473 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: of yards short from a thousand yards. He's already over 474 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 1: all purpose yards. So they need a big game out 475 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: of him. And again, if you start talking about five 476 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: star players, not guys that just go to the Pro 477 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: Bowl or their team captains, he's a starter and they 478 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: need more from him. But fairness to that, they need 479 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: more from the offensive line. Six times this season, including 480 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: each of the past two weeks, Drake has finished with 481 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: less than fifty yards and the Cardinals are just two 482 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: and four in those games. And to your point about 483 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: that magical one thousand yard mark Kenyan Drake would love 484 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: to hit. He needs eighty one yards this Sunday is 485 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: a doable, sure, but that is certainly tough flooding against 486 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 1: a top five rushing defense in the Los Angeles Rams. Well, 487 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: we know it start in Week one last year. If 488 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: the Cardinals can find some sync and rhythm in there 489 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: early on, they go with that up tempo offense. You know, 490 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: you get to the fourth quarter, the guys start having 491 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 1: their hands on the hips. Now again, if he gets 492 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: three or four yards, three or four yards and he 493 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: pops one for ten, all of a sudden, now they're 494 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,479 Speaker 1: gonna they may drop an extra guy in the box. 495 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: And I gotta think they're gonna put a spy on 496 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: Murray just to keep them in the pocket. But we 497 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: need to see that second level runs and that's based 498 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: on the offensive line winning at the point of attack 499 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: and then getting out there having a guy like Pugh 500 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 1: or Humphrey pulling. And you know how I feel about 501 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: Murray's very athletic, justin Murray, and I think Kelvin Beaton's 502 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: been a nice edition there. They got to get more 503 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: on a Mason Cole. We'll see about the billiard what 504 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: his availability is because he is eld a little play 505 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 1: and we know that Cole's struggle with those false start penalties, 506 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: but he does have a lot of experience. I do 507 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: think Lamont is probably a little bit more athletic and 508 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: a little bit stronger. I'm glad you brought him up. 509 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: It was an item that I wanted to discuss this week, 510 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: and it's because of what Mason Cole has done the 511 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: past two weeks. As far as the false start penalties. Now, 512 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: I think the Cardinals need some clarification on exactly what 513 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: Cole is doing because the two that he got whistled 514 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: for on Saturday, one I certainly could see him move 515 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: the football. The other one I have no idea what 516 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: he did, so maybe that's more of something they get clarification. 517 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, you haven't really had four of the 518 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 1: past two weeks, it's only been two. Still, that's too 519 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: too many. When you are the center and you are 520 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: in control, nothing can happen offensively until you hike the football. 521 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: So there should never be a case in which the 522 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: center has a false start. Sometimes it happens because maybe 523 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: you get a little overamped or excited and you move 524 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: that ball a little bit. But Lamont Gilliard has played 525 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: this season. There has been a rotation at center a 526 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: couple of different times this season where we see Mason 527 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: Cole start, but then Gilliard come in for a series 528 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 1: or two, and we've heard the offensive lineman say, yes, 529 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: we've got a rotation, we've got depth on the offensive line. 530 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: We feel like we have seven eight starters and this 531 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 1: keeps everyone fresh. There's a part of me that just 532 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 1: doesn't buy that because that's not a position historically. Maybe 533 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: things are changing, m JA. I don't know. You don't 534 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: rotate offensive lineman because they work together as a unit. 535 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: They're not a bunch of individuals. They form a team. 536 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: And you remove one of those pieces, none more important 537 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,479 Speaker 1: than the center, then all of a sudden, it's a 538 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: different voice, it's a different snap to the quarterback, and 539 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,360 Speaker 1: maybe a different spin. How quickly is it getting back 540 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: there on a shotgun snap? So I don't know why 541 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: this is happening. I know what they're telling us. I 542 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: just not have a hard time buying it. And it 543 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: is going to be interesting to see who is the 544 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: starting center this week if the team is concerned about 545 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: those false start penalties, because instead of first and ten, 546 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: you're first and fifteen, or a third and three becomes 547 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: a third and eight, and all of a sudden you're 548 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: playing behind the sticks and that's never good. I got 549 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: the impression because each team can send basically plays that 550 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: they have questions and sometimes the explanation will answer the question. 551 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: But I get the impression. And the four they may 552 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: have sent it on call that maybe two came back 553 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: that maybe that wasn't the right call, so half of them. 554 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: But you know, the thing is though, you know, you know, 555 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: the delayed game penalties and sometimes you got to burn 556 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: a time out because you don't want to take that penalty. 557 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: It's just, you know, and it's sound like they're shuffling 558 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: different personnel once they go with the hurry up for 559 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: the most part. So what I'm thinking, Craig, they're going 560 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: with a platoon system. You know, maybe they think Sweezy's 561 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: better than the run game, and you know so, but 562 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: you can't. It's not like you're gonna say, we're gonna 563 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: run the ball on Sweezie. What I'm saying is, I 564 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: think some of these guys are wearing down a little 565 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: bit at this point in the year, and also age. 566 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: And you've got some young guys like Billiard Billiard and 567 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: then Cole's young, um, you know, obviously Murray's young, Humpsy gum. 568 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: But you know, like the other day, Ryan Flores talked 569 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: about you know too. You know, why is he taking 570 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: them out? He said, well, it's like a closer I got. 571 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go get my closer in the ninth inning. 572 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: I'm getting Ryan Fitzpatrick. Now, I'm not saying, but I 573 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: do think it'd be interesting if this team can get 574 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: a lead and what the line looks like in the 575 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, because then I can see why they're going 576 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: with a platoon system. But I do think at this 577 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: point in the year, and again, I trust Sean Cougler. 578 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: I mean, nobody's playing without Sean Cougler, and he has 579 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: the respect of those players in the tru US. So, 580 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: you know, we got a chance to talk to Joe Judge. 581 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: You're earlier this season, and we know the Giants were 582 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: around a four game winning streak, and he said, we're 583 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: doing it because we're trying to get guys better for 584 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: the future. Now that's totally different. They drafted Andrew Thomas 585 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: in the first round. He struggled in that game, so 586 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: they're they're trying to win games, but also they're trying 587 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: to develop players. The Cardinals, they've developed these players they're 588 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: trying to win games now. But I trust Sean Kugler 589 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: in this scenario. There's got to be a rhyman reason. 590 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: Maybe we just haven't heard it, but I do think 591 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: players are trying to wear down a loop and they're 592 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: trying to get the best five out there, and if 593 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: it means playing seven players, so be it. Well, maybe 594 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: the Cardinals and Sean Kugler did have the future and mine, 595 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: because as I look back, Gilliard did play Week thirteen 596 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: and start a few drives against the Rams, including in 597 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter when the Cardinals were trying to make 598 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: that comeback and pulled it within ten, but just couldn't 599 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: kind of get over that last hump. And you look 600 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: at what this Cardinals team is now up against here 601 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: in Week seventeen. Rams defense hasn't changed the whole heck 602 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: of a lot as far as the numbers are concerned, 603 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: they are still very good. In fact, according to their 604 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: game notes, the Rams rank in the top ten in 605 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: nine different defensive categories, seven in the top five including 606 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: total yards per game, passing yards per game, sacks, rushing 607 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: yards per game, points allowed, third down percentage, and passing percentage. 608 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: This Cardinals offense is coming off a twelve point performance 609 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: after they had hit that thirty point mark on a 610 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: pretty consistent basis. And I don't think you're going to 611 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: need thirty points this week, but you do maybe need 612 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: to get twenty twenty five. And this Cardinals team has 613 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: scored against the Rams in the past two games, including 614 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: that twenty eight points in Week thirteen, so they have 615 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: shown they can score. I just don't know if you 616 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: don't have a Chase Sedmonds out there, how that might 617 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: affect things. And if Kyler Murray is limited in any 618 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: way now he says he won't be, I believe him, 619 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: but I think we're all waiting to see exactly what 620 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: transpires on the field on Sunday. Yeah, let's talk about 621 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald for a second, because we got to talk 622 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: A chance to talk to Hump today, TJNY. Any chance 623 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: we can get Aaron Donald and Jalen Ramsey to miss 624 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: this game as well. I mean, if the if the 625 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: Rams are so quote unquote concerned about the Cardinals that 626 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: Jared Goff is going to have thumb surgery and we 627 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: don't need Cooper Cup and hey, let's put Darryl Henderson 628 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: on IR. You know, why not just go full tank 629 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: mode and six your two best defensive players because apparently 630 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: they're confident that the Rams or excuse me, that the 631 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: Bears are going to lose to the Packers, so they're 632 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: going to get in the playoffs regardless. Help the Cardinals 633 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: out in the NFC West to get three teams from 634 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: the NFC West in the playoff playoffs, right, I mean, 635 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 1: I mean the Cardinals are catching him at a good time. 636 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: I mean because said the same thing last week against 637 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: the Honors on the Los Angeles Craig, I don't Los Angeles, 638 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, listen, the reason why they're in 639 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: this position is because of their defense. Now we'll give 640 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: the credit to the offense, but you know, we got 641 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: a chance to talk to DJ Humphries and we'll talk 642 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: about the awards between him and DeAndre Hopkins at the 643 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: end of the show, and I asked him, you know, 644 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: Wade Phillips, a long time NFL assistant, was seventy years old. 645 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: I think he still wants to get back in and 646 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: when you're seventy, you're kind of setting your ways. And 647 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,959 Speaker 1: they've had a really good defense, but now they got 648 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: Brandon Staley. He's only thirty six years old. He actually 649 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: comes from the coaching tree of Vic Fangio. He was 650 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: outside linebackers coach with the Broncos last year. They got 651 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: good intel on him, and then I think that he 652 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: was brought over. Maybe he was there a year. Chris 653 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: Fangio is going into his third year next year, and 654 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: so Wade's kind of setting his ways to play the 655 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: same defense. You know, you're gonna have to double You're 656 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: gonna have to double team Arnold Donald. Excuse me here, 657 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: they're moving them around. And you pointed out to me 658 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 1: before the show that there was a game the previous 659 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: game that Donald did get a sack on Humphreys. So 660 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: they're moving them around. And then you got Letter Floyd, 661 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 1: who you know, was a high draft pick. I always 662 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: thought he was like Javan Curse this long arms and 663 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: lean and you know, and he's doing well. And then 664 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 1: he got Michael Brockers, who was going to go to 665 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: Baltimore and he failed the physical and they decided to 666 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 1: bring him back. And Jalen Ramsey. So but I want 667 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 1: to go through what kind of career Donald's had compared 668 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: to Chandler Jones, because it's pretty amazing when you look 669 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: at both of their numbers. Chandler Jones was drafted in 670 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: two thousand and twelve. Obviously, he only played a one 671 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: game this year. Was it one game or two games? 672 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 1: He got hurt at the Jets, Okay, so that would 673 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: have been somewhere, but you know, he only had one sack, 674 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: so his numbers are going to be down. You look 675 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: at Aaron Donald, he was drafted thirteenth overall in two 676 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: thou fourteen, and you just start looking at it so quickly. 677 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: Here we're not getting too into the weeds with numbers 678 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: start or games for Donald one hundred and nine, Jones 679 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty four, sacks, eighty five point five 680 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: Jones ninety seven tackle for losses, Donald one twenty nine, 681 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,439 Speaker 1: Jones one oh seven quarterback hits one hundred and sixty 682 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: nine to one twenty nine. What I'm getting at is, 683 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: since twenty fourteen, Aaron Donald has the most sacks in 684 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: the NFL. Chandler has ninety seven. But we're talking about 685 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: two years prior. So we look at Chandler Jones is 686 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 1: one of the best pass rushers in the league. Since 687 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: he's bill with the Cardinals. Look at what d Aaron 688 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: Donald's done from an interior spot, but now they're moving 689 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 1: them around. So to me, that's gonna be the biggest matchup. 690 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 1: You're not going to stop him. He's got He's got 691 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: crazy numbers against the Cardinals throughout his career, talking tackle 692 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: for losses, quarterback hits, sacks. I think he's averaging a 693 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: sack and a half a game against the Cardinals, So 694 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: no surprise here. I think the biggest matchup is the 695 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 1: Cardinals offense against at Rams defense. Donald a team best 696 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: thirteen and a half sacks, with one of those coming 697 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: against DJ Humphries. As you mentioned, that came on the 698 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: Cardinals second series of that game in week thirteen, and yeah, 699 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: it was all It was kind of weird to see 700 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: Donald line up as a defensive end because you're typically 701 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: seeing him over the center or over the guard in 702 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: those gaps as opposed to rushing from the outside. But 703 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: he is so quick off the line of scrimmage that, yeah, 704 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: if you move him around, then all of a sudden, 705 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: every one of the offensive lineman gets a piece or 706 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: a crack and an Aaron Donald and it's not easy. 707 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,839 Speaker 1: Humphries admitted after that game in week thirteen that yeah, 708 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: he took a wrong step and Donald was able to 709 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: get past him. It wasn't like he was surprised that 710 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: Donald was lined up in front of him. Everyone knows 711 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: who Aaron Donald is, yet you have to account for 712 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 1: where he is on that defensive line. Now, if all 713 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 1: of a sudden he starts standing up and it is 714 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 1: no longer in a three point stance, and they add 715 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: that to his game and the passes defense become a 716 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,120 Speaker 1: new statistic for Aaron Donald. I mean, this man can 717 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: do everything, and I think he is our generations Lawrence 718 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 1: Taylor as far as being that disruptive for an opposing 719 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 1: offense and being the one defensive guy that everyone across 720 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: the board is concerned about and needs to know where 721 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 1: he is every single snap. Yeah, he kind of reminds 722 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,720 Speaker 1: me of John Randall, Now, not the talking, because Randall 723 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: would try to get into your head, and you know, 724 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 1: he added a face paint out and I really like 725 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: the way he played the game. And they're very similar 726 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: size wise. They're not six two sixty three, they're like 727 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: six feet, but they're wide and they're strong. And when 728 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: you look at Aaron Donald, just watch him. Watch his 729 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: explosion off the ball and his quickness to split a 730 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: double team. So that's where he's made his hey going 731 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,359 Speaker 1: against a garden center and sometimes you try to, you know, 732 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: double team him and you're hoping that the first guy 733 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: can make contact. Any other guy can come in and 734 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: just try to hold him up for a couple of seconds. 735 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: But he's able to split a double team because of 736 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: the explosion. And what they say is that you get 737 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: skinny in the hole, and he gets skinny in the hole, 738 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: and he's able to tackle for losses, quarterback hits. And 739 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: then the last thing you wanted him to do is 740 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 1: hit Kyler Murray in his sty because you're gonna feel that. 741 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: And he's got Michael Brocker's next to him. He's got 742 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: five sacks, and you brought up Leonard Follyed He's got 743 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: nine and a half sacks. He dropped Russell Wilson last week, 744 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: three times this season, and of course you look at 745 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: the secondary and every one points to Jalen Ramsey. We 746 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,240 Speaker 1: had expect that Ramsey Hopkins matchup, which we saw once 747 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: before this season, or the Ramsey does move around. He 748 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: wasn't always on Hopkins, but that rams secondary did do 749 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,280 Speaker 1: a good job of Hopkins, who was targeted eleven times 750 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: in the second half. It was a late adjustment, if 751 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: you will. They started to go into a hurry up 752 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 1: in a two minute offense early in that second half 753 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 1: to try to get the offense going. But Hopkins had 754 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: eight catches for fifty two yards. You would think that 755 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: eight catches would amount to more than fifty two yards. 756 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: And it's the same thing we saw last week against 757 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,919 Speaker 1: that forty nine ers defense. Hopkins is catching the ball 758 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: and then he's tackled immediately. For a short game or 759 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: no game, Hopkins needs to be able to get those 760 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: yards after catch. And whether that is Kyler Murray leading him, 761 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,879 Speaker 1: or that as Hopkins making another defender miss but not 762 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 1: enough yards after the catch for Hopkins or any of 763 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 1: these Cardinal wide receivers. Well, go back to last week. 764 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: Eighty plays, average per play four point four. That's not 765 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: gonna do it. And then he talked about Kyler Throwne. 766 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 1: You know a couple of weeks ago, you know, three touchdowns, 767 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 1: only one hundred and sevenine yards. Well, you know their 768 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: average per play is low, and that's got to get 769 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 1: a lot better. I'm not you know, you'd like to 770 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 1: see Kylo's average per play on a passing around somewhere 771 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: between six five and seven five, you know the good 772 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 1: ones as maybe seven seven five. You're not going to 773 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 1: go nine or ten. But the average per play from 774 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,399 Speaker 1: scrimmage has to be better than four to four run 775 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 1: eighty plays you should have had five hundred yards. I'll 776 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 1: be much more confident if this Cardinals offense can get 777 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 1: to that twenty twenty five point mark against this Rams 778 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: defense that is allowing just under twenty points a contest. 779 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 1: They are third in the league in scoring defense, and 780 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: I think, as you've been talking about it, it is 781 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 1: not going to be a lot of points scored in 782 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: this game, one because the Rams don't have much offensively, 783 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,439 Speaker 1: and two, their defense can win ball games, as they've 784 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 1: shown this season with Jared Goff a turnover machine. Yet 785 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 1: the Rams were still winning this very easily. Could be 786 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 1: a three nothing, nine, six, ten seven ball game because 787 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: they're not going to ask John Walford to do a 788 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: whole heck of a lot. Get into field goal range. 789 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: We can kick field goals, maybe get one touchdown because 790 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: that Rams defense is stingy. And yes, I know they 791 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: lost the Jets, but that was one of those cases 792 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 1: to where I think we saw last week when the 793 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 1: Cardinals placed the forty nine ers. Their heads weren't in 794 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,800 Speaker 1: that game and they got embarrassed. They're not going to 795 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 1: get embarrassed talking about that Rams defense again. And as 796 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: you pointed out on the Red Sea Report on Tuesday afternoon, 797 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 1: this is the first time that Shal mcveigh's lost two 798 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: in a row this season. Now he's lost three in 799 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: a row in his career, but this is the first time, 800 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,759 Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to turnover ratio, Cardinals are 801 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 1: minus one, the ranked nineteenth. The Rams are minus two, 802 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: they ranked twentieth. Now, a defensive touchdown for the Rams 803 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: would go a long way. Special teams as well could 804 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 1: play a factor, and this a saint for the Cardinals. 805 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 1: Get you get us, You get a defensive turnover in 806 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: the light, hopefully it's a pick six or you know, 807 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 1: like Marcus Golden and Hassan and Reddick have done. You know, 808 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,560 Speaker 1: get a force bumble, give your offense, you know, at 809 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,919 Speaker 1: the twenty and you got to punch it in. So 810 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 1: it's not like, you know, they're forcing a lot of turners. 811 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: They just don't make a lot of mistakes. They get 812 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 1: you off on third down. They're well coached, and so 813 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: it's going to come down to the little things. Field position, 814 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,760 Speaker 1: limit your turnovers. I'm not saying you're gonna be perfect, 815 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: but when you get in the red zone, you're gonna 816 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: have to score touchdowns. And you know, third down is 817 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 1: always an issue. Red zone offense and defense is always 818 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: going to be a key in any football game, let 819 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 1: alone a game you have to win to get into 820 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: the postseason Bird Gang. If you haven't done so already, 821 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 1: we invite you to update to the latest version of 822 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,439 Speaker 1: the Cardinals mobile app today. The update features and all 823 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,760 Speaker 1: new redesign homescreen experience. Visit asy cardinals dot com slash 824 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,359 Speaker 1: app for more before we close up shop here. On 825 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 1: this Wednesday edition, Cardinals Covered two presented by Hunday partner 826 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. As referenced by Mike Drecki earlier 827 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 1: in the show, the Arizona Cardinals were awarded, or I 828 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: should say the Arizona Chapter of the Pro Football Writers 829 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 1: of America awarded DeAndre Hopkins and DJ Humphreys some awards 830 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 1: and some pretty important awards. Hopkins named the Lloyd Herberg 831 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: MVP and Humphreys the Steve Schonfeld a good Guy Award 832 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 1: obviously MVP. We know that is for outstanding performance and 833 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: the Good Guy Award for the cooperation and insight in 834 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: dealing with the media. So two players well deserved. But 835 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 1: it's the meaning behind the awards. Herberg and Schonfeld both 836 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 1: long time beat writers in the NFL and the Arizona Cardinals, 837 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,760 Speaker 1: and that is a way to honor their memory, their legacy. 838 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 1: And I think we heard from Humphreys earlier, very appreciative 839 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 1: of understanding what our role is in covering the NFL, 840 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 1: and then of course players roles as well. Yeah, the 841 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 1: MVP Award is named after Lloyd Herberg, a former Cardinals 842 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 1: beat writer for the Arizona Republic. Herberg covered the Cardinals 843 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: from nineteen eighty eight, when the team moved here, until 844 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: his death May of nineteen ninety four. He fought a 845 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: courageous battle with cancer. He actually was covering the draft 846 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,319 Speaker 1: while dealing with cancer and ended up passing away a 847 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: few weeks later. Well respected. You know he was one 848 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 1: of the originals. You know Tim Tires and Bob Jacobson, 849 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 1: and you know Steve Schoenfeld when this team moved here, 850 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: Lee Schappell and then as for the Good Guy Award. 851 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 1: It's named after former Arizona Republic Steve Schoenfeld. They covered 852 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:25,439 Speaker 1: the Cardinals in the NFL from the Republic nineteen eighty 853 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 1: eight to two thousand and again when the Cardinals moved here. 854 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 1: A former National President of Pro Football Writers Associate, and 855 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 1: he was killed by a hit and run driver in 856 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 1: October of two thousand and just to let everyone know 857 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 1: when it comes to Shony, he was my mentor. So 858 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 1: the reason why I'm sitting here today is because the 859 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,800 Speaker 1: guys like Steve Schalenfeld and also Ken Summers. When Shony 860 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 1: passed away, Kent kind of took me under his wing. 861 00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 1: So I'm very grateful to both of those guys. And 862 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 1: Lord Herbert Shany was one of the first people that 863 00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: when I first arrived here in two thousand and I 864 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 1: was introduced to and he was one of those people 865 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 1: that made everyone phil welcome. And I've heard it before 866 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 1: and I'll say it again that in this day as 867 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 1: social media and Twitter, you would wonder how Steve Schoenfeld 868 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 1: would do in this day and age because he was 869 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 1: always on the telephone, very early in the morning, very 870 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 1: late at night, and that was how people communicated. But 871 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 1: via social media. I can only imagine what he would 872 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,319 Speaker 1: be able to do. Great at his job, but an 873 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 1: even better person for the short amount of time that 874 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 1: I was around him when I first arrived here in Arizona. 875 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 1: But again, great job the Arizona Cardinals and the football 876 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 1: writers of America as far as honoring two very important 877 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 1: people when it comes to the Arizona Cardinals and their 878 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,360 Speaker 1: place in the valley and in the state of Arizona, 879 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 1: and of course the Arizona Republican covering the Cardinals arrival. Yeah, 880 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: and you know, hopefully we'll be able to get back 881 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 1: into the media room. I think, zoom, maybe here forever. 882 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,280 Speaker 1: We'll just have to wait and see. But there are plaques, 883 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,479 Speaker 1: and this has been going on for a long time. 884 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 1: This quickly here on showny he was a pollinator, like, 885 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,399 Speaker 1: let me tell you a story for real quick. So 886 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,839 Speaker 1: he gets a job with CBS Sports working with Len Pascarelli, 887 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 1: who was really one of the original NFL insiders with 888 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 1: John Clayton. And they give him a cell phone and 889 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 1: his first bill is like eight hundred dollars and show 890 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 1: Shany calls me. He says, I thought, when I call you, 891 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 1: it doesn't charge me. Against my minutes. I said, no, 892 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't work that way. And then I was produced 893 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: in a show. We're at the super Bowl in New 894 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 1: Orleans and he was the Pro Football Writers Association president 895 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 1: and he he would do a weekly hit on I 896 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,959 Speaker 1: think it was thirteen sixty or nine ten with Tony 897 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 1: Fomino and Larry Gatos and that was the best. It 898 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: was Radio Gold. When he shown he would come on 899 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 1: because he had no idea what Tony was going to 900 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,480 Speaker 1: ask him, and Gatos would that what a joke stuff. 901 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 1: And I remember being at the super Bowl and showing 902 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 1: he went to Happy R a little bit earlier and 903 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 1: we were still on the yard air and Tony says, 904 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 1: so what do you what do you really do for 905 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,800 Speaker 1: the commissioner? And he says, I bring him the b 906 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 1: T word and he was basically saying, you know, I 907 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 1: bring them all the nonsense to the commissioner, and Tony 908 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: just lost it and typical show, and he goes, what 909 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:28,360 Speaker 1: did I say? You should have said, I bring the 910 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: complaints to the commissioner, not the other word. Of course 911 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,800 Speaker 1: he was have a little Happy R. So bless his 912 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 1: heart and bless Lloyd Herbert because his son he always 913 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,920 Speaker 1: checks in with Ken every year and he wants to 914 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,879 Speaker 1: know who the MVP is going to be, and so 915 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 1: it's great that they continue to remember the guys actually 916 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:53,279 Speaker 1: were here when the team moved here. Couldn't made this 917 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,879 Speaker 1: any more of a better show than ending it. On 918 00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 1: that note, as far as those memories, I appreciate you 919 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 1: sharing that, MJ. Here on this Wednesday edition of Cardinals 920 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,320 Speaker 1: Cover two, presented by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. 921 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 1: Quick programming notes, it is a short week here obviously 922 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,359 Speaker 1: New Year's Day holiday. The Arizona Cardinals, though, are going 923 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 1: to continue to practice throughout the week, but our final 924 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 1: show will be tomorrow. That means Mike Jarecki has homework 925 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,400 Speaker 1: tonight because we need three keys for a victory, plus 926 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,279 Speaker 1: the always popular X factor going into week seventeen. But 927 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,279 Speaker 1: more on that tomorrow. On that note, we will put 928 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 1: a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two as always, 929 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 1: special thanks to our executive producer Jim one hundred For 930 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 1: Mike Jarecki. I'm preg Riel dou We'll talk to you 931 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 1: next time here on Cardinals Cover two,